1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to best of both worlds. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to best of both worlds. 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: This is Laura. We're going to be talking about a 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: day in the life. How Sarah and I have spent 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: a recent day, an actual day from the beginning to 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: the end. And the reason we're doing an actual day 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: is that many of these sort of stories of a 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: typical day in the life are more value judgments than 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: anything else. We decide what is typical and what is atypical, 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: and that's often more about how we want to see 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: ourselves than how time actually passes. So that's always a 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: reason that I suggest people try tracking their time. But Sarah, 20 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: you have thoughts about these day in the life posts, 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: because yeah, you've noticed the same thing. They have certain 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: smoothness to them. Yes, whenever I read them, especially if 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: there are young kids, I do tend to get kind 24 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: of jealouss. I'm like, Wow, your day was just one 25 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: peaceful event after the other. And I don't think that 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: people mean to convey that. I just think it's very 27 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: difficult to capture the details that make things a little 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: bit more challenging. So unfortunately, I think the same is 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: true with mine. But in full disclosure, like if I 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: was time logging this morning, I would have mentioned the 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: fact that on the way out the door, Genevieve pulled 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: her hairdo out twice, making herself look like, I don't know, 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: a wild child basically, and you know that's drama and 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: stressful and those kinds of things don't typically make it 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: onto timelogs. So I guess this is my apology in advance. 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 1: If it sounds easier than it probably actually feels. Yeah, So, yeah, 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how you would actually capture all that. 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: It would have to be time, it would have to 39 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: be video of like the whole day, and then you know, 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: analyze each like one minute period see what was happening. 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: That's actually one of the things that is a challenge 42 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: with with time logs. I think you can get a 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: lot of stuff in half hour blocks, and I make 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: a judgment call that half hours isn't enough to show stuff, 45 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: but will also keep people doing it, whereas obviously no 46 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: one's going to record every minute, Like then you spend 47 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: your whole time recording your time, and it's very meta. 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't work like all your time would be spent 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: on your timelog. So that is a choice of that. 50 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: But then you lose some stuff because you might have 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: been working for like any of the thirty minutes, but 52 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: you were like scrolling around pottery Barn links for the 53 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: other ten and you're never gonna write that down, like 54 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: you're just somehow magically there's three hours of screen time 55 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: in the day that we're while you were also working 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: eight hours. Like where did that come from? I don't know. 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: Time is magic, but yeah, there's a lot of sort 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: of multitasking that doesn't necessarily get captured on the logs either. 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: Maybe if you had some sort of like alarm go 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: off on your phone every hour for like thirty seconds 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: where it forced you to take a video and like 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: narrate exactly what is happening at that minute. Unfortunately, if 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing patient care, I don't think that would be 64 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: very nice to, by the way, smile hip a compliant, 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, exactly, it might be more realistic. 66 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: All right, So you're going to talk us through Wednesday, 67 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: September fifteen. We're recording this right after those. It's not 68 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: like she chose this one day from a month ago 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: just to show what Sarah looks like. But why did 70 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: you choose Wednesday as opposed to say, the week prior 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: or or something like that. The week prior was a 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: call week, and I think when you suggested this, it 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: was already Tuesday or something, so I think it was 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: sort of the next typical work day. Although my days 75 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: are about half clinical and half not clinical, and I 76 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: did choose a clinical day, but there's no reason that 77 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: that's truly any more typical than any other day. All right, 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: let's hear what Wednesday, September fifteen looked like for Sarah. Okay, 79 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: I woke up at five, not four forty five, but 80 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: five that I don't know why. I think I was 81 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: trying to get like at least seven and a half 82 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: hours of sleep or something, and I did my normal 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: morning routine. Again full disclosure, This was the week after 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: my call week, and my call ends on a Tuesday, 85 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: and I always feel sort of like I have a 86 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: call hangover, even though there's no alcohol involved, and so 87 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: I've been really tired this week. So I haven't done 88 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: this every day, but I did do this on the fifteenth. 89 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: Whether or not that was influenced by the fact that 90 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: I was tracking the day, we'll never know. But I 91 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: did get up and I read a little bit, I 92 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: did my headspace, and I did a workout. It was 93 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: like I didn't feel like up to the full Sydney 94 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: comings that I've been doing, so I did twenty minutes 95 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: of a Peloton full body strength workout and ten minutes 96 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: of core and then that took me up until about 97 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: six forty five, which is the time we have to 98 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: get the kids up, and I actually went to Josh 99 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: I was sleeping, and said, hey, can you like wake 100 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: up the kids and start them up while I shower 101 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: because I'm going to take them to school. So he 102 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: took over the kids and I got ready and then 103 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: I joined them downstairs about seven ten ate like a 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: five second breakfast, and then at seven thirty five on 105 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: the dot left with the kids. We have a new 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: rule currently, which is that for every minute after seven 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: thirty five, if they are not ready with shoes on 108 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: at the door, they are going to lose ten minutes 109 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: of iPad time on the next weekenday when they're eligible 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: for iPad time. This is a relatively new policy, but 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: I have to say it seems to be good. It 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: does not work for Genevieve, she's not quite ready for that. 113 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: It's too complicated. But for the big kids, they're like, okay, 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: like you remind them of that, and all of a 115 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: sudden they have a fire lit under them that wasn't 116 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: there before. So that worked, and then we left at 117 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: seven thirty five. Do we want to like take turns? 118 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna be talking for way too long. No, 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: because I could. I mean, I could just offer commentary 120 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: if you think it would help to break it up. 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: But no, I yeah, getting kids out the door not easy. 122 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: I like you, now you're stupp by the door, then, 123 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: right that it's relatively easy for them to do that. Yes, 124 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: all of our clothes are downstairs. I usually do them 125 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: the favor of pulling their lunches out of the fridge 126 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: and adding ice packs. And they're in charge of like 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: putting their clothes on, brushing their teeth, putting their socks on, 128 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: et cetera. And then Genevieve needs a lot of like 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: hands on help, so I cannot wait. I think it 130 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: were probably two years away from when she could like 131 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: take over that. I just I'm really over getting a 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: kid dressed in the morning. You know, we to not 133 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: do it, but it'll happen to such thirty five we 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: are all in there. Yes, we are out thedore. I 135 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: drive to school, I do the drop off. I'm done 136 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: with the drop off, so we do Cameron that Genevieve 137 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: than Addaville, and very quick succession. There's not a bad 138 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: line or anything like that. And so because school's on 139 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: the way to work, I'm able to park by like 140 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: eight twenty and I get to work by eight thirty, 141 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: which is perfect because that's when my patients start. I 142 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: did not have any students or residents. A lot of 143 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: times I do, so then I have to kind of 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: set the plan for the day, decide who they're going 145 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: to see, throw an article at them and tell them 146 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: to read about X, y Z topic during any gaps, 147 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: but that didn't happen. It was just me, So the 148 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: morning was actually pretty relaxed. I think we had two 149 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: patients not show up, which was great because I had 150 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of results I had to catch up on, 151 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: so I intermedtly, saw patients, called people back. I also 152 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: had an excellent medical assistant that day, which she's been 153 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: working with me recently and she's awesome, so that helped 154 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: a lot. And I was done with all of my 155 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: notes and saw all my patients and mostly cleared my 156 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: clinical inbox by noon, which was fantastic. And so I 157 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: then heated up my lunch, which I had brought leftovers. 158 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: It was for the sake of including details. We had 159 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: some leftover pineapple fred rice with peas and cashews from 160 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: a recent Preptish menu. Anyway, I ate my lunch in 161 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: like two seconds, as I do, and then I went 162 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: for a walk. It was of lovely ninety degrees out. 163 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm being sarcastic. It was really hot, but it's okay. 164 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: And I went for this walk and I think I 165 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: made it thirty five minutes and it was like two miles, 166 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: so I was happy about that. And then I got back. 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't too gross and sweaty, because I think it 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: was just just under the time cutoff where it would 169 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: have been an issue. And my office is nice in 170 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: air conditioned, so I could cool off for a second. 171 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: And then I saw all my afternoon patients and these 172 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: were packed a lot tighter together, so it was more 173 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: like bam bam, bam bam. But again, having a good 174 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: medical assistant was helpful. And I finished my notes by five, 175 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: which is great. I don't always finish my notes by 176 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: five A lot of time. Stuff takes longer. I think 177 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: we also had one two no shows that helped out. 178 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: So if everybody had come, I would not have finished 179 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: all my notes. But if you normally do, if you 180 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: get a no show, and just so I know, because 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: I've never not shown at it, that's like appointment I have. 182 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand life happens and it's hard with 183 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: pediatric stuff and everything, but like, how often does that happen? Oh? Yeah, usually, 184 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Like I would say ten percent of appointments they don't come. 185 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean we had one they actually came, and then 186 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: at the door there's like a screening about COVID and 187 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: they're like, oh yeah, dad got diagnosed with COVID seven 188 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: days ago, and they're like, no, you can't come up 189 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: here because like if the dead just had COVID, then 190 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the kid could easily have COVID, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, 191 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: it's not it was totally not an emergency, like I 192 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: wasn't seeing most of my patients are not. I meant, 193 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: it's chronic issues, not acute issues for the most part, 194 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: and so there's no reason to come into our office 195 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: where other kids that have risk factors like diabetes and 196 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: stuff with COVID, Like it's just not necessary. So they 197 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: were like they came, but they couldn't be seen. So 198 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that happens. But yeah, anytime that happens, 199 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, found time. And then I get like 200 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: a lot of notes done or I you know, I 201 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: have a whole electronic inbox and we use EPIC and 202 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: I'll have to call about results or whatever. So getting 203 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: that as empty as possible is always my goal on 204 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: any clinical day. So I am not always successful, and 205 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: I often leave with a lot of loose end or 206 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: even open charts. But this day I was able to 207 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: get them done in part because we didn't have one 208 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: hundred percent show rate. So yes, So at five I 209 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: was done, and we have a weekly hospital wide meeting 210 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: for like basically anybody who wants to go, and it's 211 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: our CEO and our chief medical officer give an update. 212 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: And so I did that and it was a fun 213 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: one because they were introducing some new hires, including one 214 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: of my former residents. So that was like, wow, how 215 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: cool is that? So that was good, and then I 216 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: got home right around five forty five. My commute is 217 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: just under I mean, if you include walking to the 218 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: parking garage and like everything, it's probably like forty minutes 219 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: because I don't get to park right next to where 220 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: I work. So anyway, I got home ach five to 221 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: forty five. If Cameron had just finished tennis and he 222 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: was getting home. And this was actually an atypical day 223 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: because there is no typical day right because our nanny 224 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: had offered. There was no school Thursday. It was young 225 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: keypoor and we are not super religious, so for us, 226 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: I was actually working that day, and so our nannie 227 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: offered to take Cameron and Genevieve because I don't know, 228 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: she just felt like it would be fun. Annabelle really 229 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: wanted to stay with me and I felt like I 230 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: could work from home with her with me on Thursday, 231 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: so we divided up like that, and so this was 232 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: like a really fun night Annabelle and I. I think 233 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: she'd already eaten dinner. I ate dinner. She hung out 234 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: with me. We did some planning fun. I showed her 235 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 1: all my Hope Unichi stuff that had just come. We 236 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: watched The Home Edit together, which is one of the 237 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: few shows that like we truly both enjoy. We got 238 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: to see Rachel Zoe's closet get organized and just her closet, man, 239 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: I mean that is I don't even know if it's goals. 240 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. But the thing about her, this is a 241 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: huge digression, is it. Not only does she have a 242 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, she has amazing stuff. I mean, there 243 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: is a reason that she is like a stylistic you 244 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: know that she's made it so far in the fashion industry, 245 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: like her choices are on a point, and it was 246 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: so cool to see her closet. So anyway, we watched 247 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: the Home Edit and then I watched I hate these 248 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: like crafting youtubes where they're like sped up versions of 249 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: people making elaborate stuff off and out of like cardboard, 250 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: but Annabel loves them. So I watched that, and I 251 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: don't know that took us to around bedtime. We did 252 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: Annabel observed my skincare ritual, and then we went to 253 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: about at like nine because I, again, I was tired 254 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: for my week of call. Annabel had asked if she 255 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: could sleep in my bed, which she will sometimes ask 256 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: if it's just us. And Josh had guitar, so he 257 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: wasn't in the picture at all. He went, I think, 258 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: straight from work to his guitar, which she has on Wednesdays, 259 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: And so we went to sleep. That was my entire day, 260 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: And unlike you, there was no like well, I don't 261 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: know if you probably don't have to get up like 262 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: overnight anymore. But yeah, you know, once I went to bed, 263 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: we were all asleep until the next day. Yeah, there's 264 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: occasional overnight stuff, but you know, it happens. All right, Well, 265 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and then I'll talk about 266 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: how I spent a day. Well, we are back, Sarah 267 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: and I are talking about a day in the life, 268 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: talking through how we spent a actual day as opposed 269 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: to a typical day. Since there are no typical days 270 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: in what way would I guess the Annabel part the 271 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: evening with just Annibal is pretty different from the norm, 272 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: very much and also very much less chaotic. I mean 273 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: speaking to the whole like, oh, it was so peaceful 274 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: and nice. It actually was pretty peaceful and nice. And 275 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean my sister, if she got on here, will 276 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: tell you she will often FaceTime around dinner. And peaceful 277 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: and nice are not adjectives you would use to ever 278 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: describe the scene of what is going on at our 279 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: house around six pm. But again, hard to convey in 280 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: that day exactly exactly. I don't have the scream crazy 281 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: sorright in my notes either. So I decided to do Monday, 282 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: September thirteenth, partly just because we were originally going to 283 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: record this on September fourteen and then Life interviewed. But 284 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: I was sleeping in the morning until about five forty five. 285 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: I woke up and fed Henry in bed. I woke 286 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: up because he was up, and then fed him in 287 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: bed until about six ten six fifteen, I got up. 288 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: I put together some breakfast for Jasper, who's the oldest child, 289 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: got him up at six point thirty. Although he's often 290 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: setting his own alarm to I just you know, am 291 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: up and have the backup there. I played and read 292 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: with Henry while Jasper was eating, also talking to Jasper 293 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: at this time, I think I must have put on 294 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: jeans or something, because there's no getting ready time noted 295 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: on the timelog here, and as I look through the 296 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: whole day, there's no getting ready time. So apparently I 297 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: have now remembering I did not shower Monday. I try to, 298 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: so that was a typical anyway, Monday, I decided to 299 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: drive Jasper to school. We're generally trying to do that 300 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: at least Monday and Friday, and then he'll take the 301 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,119 Speaker 1: bus the other days. So Monday I drove him to school. 302 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: It was quite the line. I have now been reworking 303 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: the route to get there so at least avoid one 304 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: stop sign that people are just stacked up behind to 305 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: get through. We'll come at that intersection from the other directions, 306 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: so there won't be a lineup. We'll be able to 307 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: go forward. But even so, it takes time to get 308 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: through the line. And I'm not really sure what to 309 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: do about that other than just not great. But you'll 310 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: do it twice a week. He'll take the bus on 311 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: the other time, Michael generally drive him. On Friday, so 312 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: I got home, Michael had gotten Sam on the bus. 313 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: Sam gets up at seven and I had left the 314 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: house at seven with Josper, so gets him ready, gets 315 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: him out to the bus. He I think it came 316 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: right at seven thirty, and I came home like seven 317 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: thirty five from the high school run. I ate my 318 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: breakfast in relative quiet. Since Michael was still in charge 319 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: of Henry and Alex and others at this point hang out. 320 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: Made a grocery list for our nanny to go shopping 321 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: during the morning. At eight o'clock, she was not there. 322 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: There was there's a slight issue that precluded her coming 323 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: till about eight forty five. It's all fine, but that 324 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: was sort of sudden change of plans. And then I 325 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: got the kids on the bus. At eight thirty, Alex 326 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: and Ruth chatted with the pool guy who was there 327 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: to fix the broken heater. Any of our listeners who 328 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: happened to have pools know that everything breaks and it's 329 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: just inevitable. So we were deciding what we were going 330 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: to do about that. Then our nanny got here. I 331 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: went for a run at eight forty five and proceeded 332 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: to run till about nine twenty through some nice trails 333 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: in the area, a nice little farm. It's a great loop. 334 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't normally run in the morning, but it was 335 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: nothing else was really happening at this point, and I'd 336 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: been up since five forty five, and so I'm like, 337 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to do something. So I ran, 338 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: came back nine twenty, got to work, worked. Do we 339 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: have any sorry digression, do you have Were you able 340 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: to enjoy any leaves yet? Or is that not home? Yeah? Well, 341 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: there's sort of just color on the margins, like little 342 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: bits of color on trees. Some of the brush and 343 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: vines are modeling a little on the edge. It's very 344 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: very early. It's nothing pronounced yet, but it's you know, 345 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: it's pretty. It's nice late summer with a touch of color. 346 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: So worked all morning. What did I even work on? 347 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: I don't remember. I didn't write that down. Our nanny 348 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: got back at eleven thirty with the groceries, so I 349 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: helped her bring those in. I had lunch with Michael, 350 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: and Henry was there then too, sort of one toddling 351 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: around eating as well. Finally, at twelve I got out 352 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: of my workout clothes, proceeded to do work. I remember 353 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: I had to get dressed because I had video calls 354 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: now I remember. So they were done in a ponytail, 355 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: but with no showering, a little touch of bakeup so 356 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, kind of make a nice gauzy type zoom 357 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Not great lighting, so they're not saying 358 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: as well, you have a nice top on and sort 359 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: of a general polish on the ponytail. So I had 360 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: called at one o'clock a prep call for a speech, 361 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: got off that maybe a little after one thirty, did 362 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: email till two, and I had another work call that 363 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: was another prep call for a speech. Continued working. I 364 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: had agreed to go get Sam at school. He has 365 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: a really long bus ride home that I think he 366 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: finds very frustrating because they circle our street literally three 367 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: times before they actually turned down to come on it, 368 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: so I know he feels like the last fifteen twenty 369 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: minutes of the ride is just wasted time. And we 370 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: had made a deal that I would pick him up 371 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: and that he would go to the batting cage with 372 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: our nanny to go practice because he needed some practice 373 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: for the fall baseball team he is on. Anyway, I 374 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: went to get him, but I was waiting in line 375 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: there at the middle school forever listening to best like plans, though, 376 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: so that made it better. I enjoyed wo Sarah accompany 377 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: me I learned all about Was it the Hobunicci time, 378 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: or maybe it was a different one, I forget what 379 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that was, yes, and so I picked him up. 380 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: We got home. Then my plan had been to do 381 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: some more work. However, Jasper was really wanting to talk 382 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: and chat and hit Starbucks, and so I decided I would. 383 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: So I took him to Starbucks to get his strawberry 384 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: aside lemonade, but he likes there, and I picked stuff 385 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: up for everyone else too. While we went, not for 386 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: me but for everyone else. We left the door open 387 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: for Ruth and Alex. Michael was working upstairs, so that 388 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: was fine. One of the upsides of having two parents 389 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: work from home. You can do that sort of thing. 390 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Because our nanny had taken Sam and Henry over to 391 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: the batting cage so he could practice got home dealing 392 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: with children. This is again my attempts to get back 393 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: to work were somewhat stymied for a long time because 394 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: than Jasper also needed to buy a graphing calculator of 395 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: a certain variety, and Amazon had a run on TI 396 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: eighty four's for obvious reasons at the start of the 397 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: school year, since clearly he was not the only person 398 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: in the world told to buy a TI eighty four calculator. 399 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: Why haven't calculators gotten any more advanced since we were 400 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: taking math? I think I had a TIA eighty three. 401 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean any well, I mean, you don't need 402 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean, there may be faster, but like I mean, 403 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: they weren't unfast. That like, you don't need super computing 404 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: power to do trigonometry, right like you. I guess that's true. 405 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: I have a little sine waves that come afron. Sin 406 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: wave has not changed in twenty eight years. I can 407 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: tell you that. So as a little I swear we 408 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: have a TI eighty four calculator somewhere. But sometimes it's 409 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: just not worth asking that question because I'm going to 410 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: find out what as I mean to find out we don't. 411 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: We should, but we don't, and then it's just going 412 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: to be, you know, more frustrating. So we wound up 413 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: ordering a mint green one. Okay, well that's an improvement. 414 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: They did not used to come in cute colors, so 415 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: that that's great. Well, I mean, it wasn't that my 416 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: son wanted mint green. Was that mint green was what 417 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: was in stock and available for fast shipping. And if 418 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: you were like mommy, I needed on Monday anyway, so 419 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: we ordered that. That took a long time. I filled 420 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: out various forms, finally got back to work. However, it 421 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: was work with kid interruptions, people needing various things until 422 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: about five fifty. Michael had taken Ruth to soccer. I 423 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: at five point fifty took over with Henry while our 424 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: our nanny finished like plating up dinner for the kids. 425 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: I sat with them. We ate stuff, you know, talk 426 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: with it so as the boys. So Michael and Ruth 427 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: weren't there, but I ate with the boys and her. 428 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: I took fifteen minutes to read on the porch after 429 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: dinner while she was still there. Then she left. I 430 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: took over with Henry, played with Henry. When Ruth came home, 431 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: I made her her grilled cheese that she hadn't had 432 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: with dinner. So it's then seven point thirty. I feed Henry, 433 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: put him down. He's still screaming, self soothing as we say, 434 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: some nights it's better than others. It's gotten slightly better, 435 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: but certainly we have not had the experience of sleep training. 436 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: We're like, oh, you only have to have him cried 437 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: out for like two nights and then they put themselves 438 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: to sleep for the rest of the time. This has 439 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: never been the case. However, he did go down Eventually, 440 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: I read on the porch. More brought Alex up at 441 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: eight thirty. I read to him, Michael read to Ruth. 442 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: They're reading through Nancy Drew got them down. The boys 443 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: are in the room at nine that they can read. 444 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Then children keep popping up. We are working on this, 445 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: but they I was able to read and relax and 446 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: turn the lights out for the boys at nine forty five, 447 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: getting Bend be asleep by ten thirty. I was asleep 448 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: until about four forty five, at which point Henry was screaming. However, 449 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: I was able to wait for fifteen minutes and then 450 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: he went back to sleep, which was good because then 451 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: I was able to sleep from five to six, at 452 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: which point Tuesday morning started and do it all again. Wow, 453 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: what book were you reading? Do you remember? I don't 454 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: think it was I actually reading a book that's an 455 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: interesting question. I have said, you read on the you 456 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: read outside on the porch, Yes, and then I think 457 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: I read a magazine. Okay, I don't recall really. Maybe 458 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: it was like HGTV while you were watching the Home Edit, 459 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: I was reaching reading a it was a different day, 460 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: but I was reading HGTV. Although I have been reading. 461 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: I did read this book on It was called The 462 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: Mosquito and it's nonfiction and it's a history of the 463 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: world through the lens of mosquitoes, which, if you believe 464 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: this author, had a far greater impact. He says that 465 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: one in two humans ever has died as a result 466 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: of a mosquito born illness. Michael says that's not true, 467 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: but it could be a lot. And certainly the number 468 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: of people who had malaria or who died of malaria 469 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: or yellow fever in the course of human history is 470 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: pretty intense, and it's just sort of odd to think about, 471 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: you know, something like yellow fever epidemics going through a city. 472 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: Let's just say COVID has nothing on you know, ten 473 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: to fifteen percent death rate in a city of the 474 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: whole population, the people who got it probably you know, 475 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: thirty forty percent, and they don't, well, like nineteen eighteen 476 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: flu too, right, Yeah, well, I mean that death rate 477 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: wasn't quite as high, you know, because that was starting 478 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: to be when people knew how to take care of 479 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: people and sort of prevent more of the spread. It's 480 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: interesting how that developed, you know, sort of the sanitation 481 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: standards that came in around the time of you know, 482 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: starting with like the Crimean War and then into you know, 483 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: the Civil War. They had gotten a lot better even 484 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: by that point, and then obviously the advances with you know, 485 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: modern disease and stuff. You know. World War two was 486 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: actually one of the times when people were able to 487 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: control the mosquito in a battlefield context in a way 488 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: that they had never had before. And they're saying that's 489 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 1: one of the reasons Americans were able to fight as 490 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: they did in the Pacific theater is having access to 491 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: anti malarials and the ability to spray DDT everywhere, you know, 492 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: which has its downsides too, but did in fact work. 493 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: So anyway, long story, I was reading that and it 494 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: definitely helped keep COVID in context. So yeah, that was 495 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: my day. So yeah, we'd love to hear our listeners 496 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: day in the life. Please do share and send those 497 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: in because we always love to keep track of them. 498 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: So let's go to our question, all right, So Sarah, 499 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: I will ask it to you because you had the answer. 500 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: Our listener writes in I am feeling like I am 501 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: in a slump and a lack of the regular social 502 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: activities feels depressing. Any tips I get YOUA, I mean definitely, 503 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. A couple of weeks ago, I just 504 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: felt like I was looking at my calendar and I 505 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: was like, nothing looks fun. So I think sometimes it's normal, 506 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: though not great, to get in moods like that. But 507 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: I definitely feel like making plans, even if they are 508 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: small and not aspirational or not what you would do 509 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: if everything was wonderful and normal, does help. I started 510 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: going through and making a seasonal list of you know, 511 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: things to do for the fall, and came up with 512 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: at least a few things you may be able to 513 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: do that Maybe you need some totally random goal to 514 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: focus on. I often this is when I will turn 515 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: to some new fitness series, or maybe you want to 516 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: do calligraphy or work on a foreign language, or even 517 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: if you're like Laura, like a decor home improvement project 518 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: maybe that would make you happy, but something and if 519 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: there's an element of loneliness, you can often find an 520 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: online community that is centered around any small, infinitesimal little 521 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: hobby or slice of life or goal. I recently discovered 522 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: the Hobunici Reddit. It's like people around the world who 523 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: are like, why am I the only one who gets 524 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: so excited about the hobuannici sale, And everybody shares what 525 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: they got, and I'm like, see, it's not just me, 526 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: so that may be true whatever random passion that you have, 527 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: and it might make you happy. And then finally, I 528 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: mean this is a little bit of an extroverts recommendation, 529 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: but force yourself to make some social plans even though 530 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: you feel like you're slumpy and you don't feel like it, 531 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: or maybe you feel like the stuff you normally used 532 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: to do, like maybe you're not comfortable eating it indoor 533 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: places right now, so you're like, oh, I'll just do nothing, 534 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: but there are probably still many things you could do 535 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: either outside or you know, worst case scenario, make a 536 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: walk date with a friend where you're both on the phone, 537 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: like call somebody and seek out connection, because I find 538 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: that sometimes if I'm in a mood I don't want it, 539 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: but once I do seek it out, it always makes 540 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: me feel better, and then you tend to want more 541 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: of it, and so you can get on kind of 542 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: an upward swing. So of course we always always mention 543 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: therapy with these kinds of questions, remember that that is 544 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: always an option as well, and looking to see if 545 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: this is like a long lasting thing that would meet 546 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: criteria for depression. It is important to think about too 547 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: and seeking out help if that is the case. Yeah, 548 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: I would add that it might help to have a 549 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: regular social occasion. That what happens when we're really busy 550 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: and feeling low energy is that making that step to 551 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: make plans just seems so hard, and you know you 552 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: don't want to put yourself out there and get oh, 553 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm busy, can't do it, And then I know, why 554 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: should I even bother? Or something goes wrong with one 555 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: intentional thing you're trying to do. So if you have 556 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: a regular thing you do, then life starts to kind 557 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: of call us around that and nobody has to make 558 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: plans for it to happen. It just does. So figure 559 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: out what that might look like for you, If it's 560 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: going biking with a friend on the first Saturday of 561 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: every month. Right, that could be something that the two 562 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: of you agree to do, or maybe it's that you 563 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: get together with another couple one Friday a month, or 564 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But just something that could 565 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: fit that regular thing and then you know, nobody has 566 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: to plan it and it happens and you can look 567 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: forward to it. We do that with my college zoom 568 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: friends call we just I think it's every three weeks 569 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: right now, just automatically pops up. Whoever can make it 570 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: can make it. We don't have to think about it 571 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: or plan it or stress about whether this is the 572 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: right day. So yes, exactly, all right, Well, this has 573 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: been best of both worlds. We've been talking about a 574 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: typical day haha, there are no to local days. We've 575 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: been talking about a specific day in the life. We'll 576 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: be back next week with more on making work and 577 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: life fit together. Thanks for listening. You can find me 578 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Sarah at the shoebox dot com or at the Underscore 579 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: Shoebox on Instagram, and you can find me Laura at 580 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: Laura vandercam dot com. This has been the best of 581 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: both worlds podcasts. Please join us next time for more 582 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: on making work and life work together.