WEBVTT - Drive Time: Post OTA Roster Reset, Offense with Marcel Louis-Jacques 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.720 You are listening to the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:08.280 This is Drive Time with Travis Wingfield. Back to throw 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.640 to a looking clips about. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:17.079 A wide Dolphin touchdown? Time, Rickquel, uncolievable, just blue fire 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.680 for a second time. You knew where he was going 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.880 right away. I want to hit that man. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.279 I'm gonna help you. Someone will keep on his man. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:28.320 Away Wattle, Wadle to a shotgun, back to throw, looking 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:28.760 at them. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:30.480 Up myers touchdown. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.839 It's Waddle his sixth touchdown. Patow, how's this tea? 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:39.000 Drive Time with Travis Wingfield begins. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.519 Now, let me check your pulse if you're not for. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.960 What is up? Dolphins? And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast, 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:51.120 part of the Miami Dolphins Podcast Network, covering your team, 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:55.200 your Miami Dolphins. How's it going to everybody? I am 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.200 your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, part two 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:01.960 of our summer Roster Reset series. Here of two parts, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.560 we'll talk with ESPN's Marcel Louis Jock about the offense, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.800 his Ota takeaways, and much much more. Here from the 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.920 Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.399 This is the Draft Time Podcast. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:19.360 Heye gaff, Let's go ahead and welcome in my guest 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.720 today talking all things Miami Dolphins twenty twenty three offense, 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.400 Marcel Louis Jock and joining me today from ESPN, Marcel 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:29.600 Louis Jack. Marcel, thanks for joining us today talking some 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.920 Dolphins offense, some Dolphins OTAs, and welcome into the podcast 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:33.880 for the first time, my friend. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.920 Yeah, man, pleasure to be here squeezing out last bit 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:42.000 of football before basically what summer vacation. Yeah, it feels 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.520 a little told just to call it that, but I 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.320 mean that's kind of what it is, right. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:46.440 It's exactly what it is. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.160 My wife is a teacher, so she actually does go 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.640 on summer break, and so our jobs line up pretty 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:51.400 well in that way. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.120 I know you're a big traveler as well. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:54.600 Man, you got your thing on the docket here coming 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:56.280 up for the summer break, as it were. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:00.560 I might be heading up to New York slash etiquette 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.520 here in a couple of weeks, Haley. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.840 My girlfriend's birthday is at the end of the month. 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.920 I'm going to use up some of those sweet Disney 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.720 passes and head up to Orlando for a couple of 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.200 days before hanging out here in Miami for a week 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.679 or so. I actually got a wedding in Minneapolis or 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:24.320 Minnesota that area into July early August as well. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.160 I might miss a couple of days of training camp 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:26.400 for that. 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:29.040 But beyond that, man, my big trip was we went 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.960 to Cabo for Kemp Wolf's thirtieth birthday. 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.680 Nice. I think it was into March or beginning of April, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:40.400 one of the two. But that's it. Man. We do 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:41.840 a lot of traveling in the year. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.840 So I kind of liked my home time when I 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:44.200 get it. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.120 Yeah, absolutely, I always you know, home home was one 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.799 of the hardest for me. I'm typically kind of a 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.440 veg out kind of guy, especially being up pairing up 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.760 to these days, but getting out is nice. I'm heading 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.120 back up to my stomping grounds in Washington State later 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.519 this month as well, so I think everybody I've talked 0:02:58.520 --> 0:02:59.919 to gets out for at least a little bit. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:01.919 But you doing Cabo and New York makes me a 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:02.560 little bit jealous. 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:02.680 There. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:03.720 I can't lie about that. 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.640 Marcel, hey man, look, it's uh, it is what it is. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.600 I guess it was a blessing. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.520 It was a blessing. I'm actually I've never been to Washington, man, 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.640 I've never been. I've always wanted to go to like Seattle. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.200 I wanted to catch a game like I went to 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.919 Arizona State obviously, so I wanted to catch like an 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.520 as U U Dub game. I know those are the 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.440 other guys for you that would be like, you're telling 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:31.440 me you want to go to Tucson. Yeah, but I 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.360 do want to. I do want to see Washington at 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.160 some point. I've never really I've been there. I think 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.680 I had a short layover at an airport and that's 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:38.200 about it. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.320 Hey, look, man, Pulman's got nothing for you or anybody 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.720 that's not used to the area. It's it's got nothing 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.400 for you, man. Like it's it's in the middle of 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.200 the hills, the rolling police out there in eastern Washington. 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.120 Just not a lot going on. So I don't blame you, 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.480 because Seattle in the summertime is one of the most 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.920 beautiful landscapes I think we have in this country in 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.840 the entire Pacific Northwest kind of that way, but really 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.040 up in that upper left corner, you can't beat it. 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.000 When it's like seventy five degrees on a nice July 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:01.640 day and you. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.520 Talk about going to a game, I would recommend a 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.600 Maryor's game because those are about his chill vibes as 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:06.920 you can. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:08.960 Get when it comes to the Northwest and kicking it 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:10.000 up there. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.840 So that's that's our non football talk here, and we're already, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.240 as you can tell, in vacation mode. It sounds like Marcel, 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.719 let's go ahead and revert back here to what happened 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.320 on this practice field the last week and really going 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:25.960 back to the last month over OTA's five practices observed. Out 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.599 of how many it was, I forget the number. We 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:31.400 saw five of the practices, and we talked to defense 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.080 on the previous episode with Daniel Oyafusi and he he 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.480 gave us his defensive takeaways. I'm curious to get your 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.159 takeaways on the offensive side of the football. Here for 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.560 your number two under Mike McDaniel, What did you see 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.120 what did you like on the Dolphins offense during OTAs well? 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.039 Let's start with what everybody wants to know, everybody wants 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.279 to talk about, right, which is to look like he 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.320 had more command of this offense. You know, it's been 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.600 much reported. It's the first time he's ever been in 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:00.000 the second year of an offense in his in his career, 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.720 but he looks the part taking more of a little 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.440 vocal leadership role. You know, that's been a pretty hot 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.920 topic of conversation surrounding two over the past we'll call 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:10.920 it two three years. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.279 What kind of leader is he is? He's not vocal. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.120 He's not a raw rock type of guy. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:17.919 I don't think you necessarily have to be. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:20.280 I think you can lead by example, even at the 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:23.200 quarterback position, but nobody's going to turn it down if 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.440 your quarterback is. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:28.240 Your vocal leader. So there's that behind him. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:32.920 However, behind him is not as stable as I think 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.960 the Dolphins wanted it to be after signing Mike White, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:41.200 just because I think Skyler Thompson has outplayed him during 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.800 the practices that we have been able to watch. And 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.680 you know that's not to say we don't get to 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.240 see Mike White in the film room. We don't get 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.480 to see him in the in the meeting rooms, so 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:52.919 we don't get to see that part. But from the 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.279 five practices we saw, it looked like Styler Thompson might 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.960 end up being QB too. And when I say not 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.559 as stable, it's not knock on that quarterback situation. It's 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.880 more like it's not decided. You know, when Mike White signed, 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.800 I think he expected him to be QB two, And 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.080 I'm not so sure going into training camp, I'm not 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.400 so sure that that is what's going to happen once 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.920 training camp is over, switching, you know, staying in the backfield. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.400 Man, I think the entire media. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.880 Corps has fallen in love with Devon Jing and for 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.720 a good reason. Man Like he looks like an early 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:34.320 candidate for Training Camp Darling of the Year. Like the 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.520 verses to the way he's used, I can't actually say 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.120 because of the media guidelines, but the way he has 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.600 been used, the versatility he has displayed, the speed and 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.800 athleticism that he has displayed, his aptitude is a route runner, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:52.120 and his agility after the catch. I think they're all 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.000 going to carve a legitimate role for this guy out 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.359 as soon as he's comfortable with the speed of the 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.760 game preseason, in training camp, in practice, that's one thing. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.480 But once you once those you know, once the lights 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.800 are on, once you're in the stadium, it changes a bit. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.080 So once he's comfortable with that level of play, with 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.920 that speed of play, man, I think this guy is 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:16.480 gonna have a special role. Uh, this offseason. Uh about Okmed, 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.160 I thought looked good as well. Uh, he's a guy 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.080 who he showed up last year at training camp. You know, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.000 didn't get the reps in season, but he made him 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.920 count when he did. I think scored touchdown in Buffalo 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.800 late in the season. But you know, I thought Achmed 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.800 has looked has looked good behind Milton and Wilson. Wilson 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:39.800 has looked explosive here his second year in Miami wide receivers. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.160 We didn't get to see a lot of Tyreek outside 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.520 of position drills. Uh. From what he said the other 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:50.920 day yesterday, technically that he's still learning this offense. That 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.160 last year he was just going off vibes and still 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.480 was on track to crack the two gay mark at 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:01.440 a certain point before before injuries. Like, I think that's 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:06.920 that's outstanding. So I'd expect massive things from him this year. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:11.240 Jalen Waddell basically operating as wide receiver one without Tyreek there, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:12.840 he still looked the part man. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.000 He's still one of the best receivers in the NFL. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:18.920 A lot of talk about wide receiver three and where that's, 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:23.000 what direction that's going. After signing Robbie chosen after signing 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:29.560 Braxson Verrios. I think that Robbie Chosen has been the 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.680 lead he's I think he's the leader in the clubhouse 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:36.079 for wide receiver three entering training camp. His downfield presence 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:40.240 has been notable. There's been a lot of h who 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:44.880 are Robbie's down there somewhere type passes that connects and score. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.839 I think that I think people forget who Robbie Chosen 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.000 really is. Maybe it's because of the name changes, but 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.000 I think people forget. I think people forget who he is, 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.360 that this is a guy who's putting up a thousand 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.439 yards or near a thousand yards with you know, Sam 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.959 Darnold's of the world and he put up a thousand 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:07.679 I think with Teddy Bridgewater. If Panthers and Jets Robbie 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.840 shows up, then that this is one of the value 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.120 signings of the off season. Without a doubt, I thought 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.920 he's been actullently. Brackson Barrios is very shifty. Ericasucama hopefully 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.480 making that second year jump. He's a guy who was 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.280 a training camp Darling last year. Preseason Darling last year 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.640 didn't necessarily translate in the regular season. If he's ready 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:30.440 to take that next step again, that's that's a fourth 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.880 round pick from a season ago that looks like it 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.520 is going to pay off. So I mean a lot 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.480 of a lot of positions. It's a long winded way 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.720 of saying. You know that even without pads, you know, 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.720 we can't see everything. But even without that pads, there 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.880 were plenty of players who stood out. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.839 No, I appreciate it because you gave me multiple follow 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.960 ups and takeaways to kind of address to go along 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.000 the position groups here, and we'll touch on tight end, 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.640 offensive line as well. But I want to go back 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.840 to the quarterback spot and you know you mentioned too, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.199 and we'll start there because why wouldn't you, you know, 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.000 I mean you look at his numbers last year. I 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.440 mean eight point nine yards per pass attempt, a three 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:08.120 to three to one, two five touch on interception ratio, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.080 two hundred and seventy two yards per game. He was, 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.040 you know, one of the top quarterbacks in EPA per dropback, 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.400 had one of the lowest sack percentage rates, the best 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.640 passer rating, one of the top total qbrs, best downfield 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.440 passing rate, like he just led the league in so 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.800 many important categories or top two or three and so 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.959 many of those, and you know, you look at the 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.920 contemporaries that he's measured against in those statistics, and it's like, 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:31.440 how do you want to refute this? 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.000 Because I'm looking at this list. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.760 And it's Patrick Mahomes, it's Josh Allen, it's Jalen Hurts, 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:38.000 it's Joe Burrow, It's two a tongue of by low Like, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:40.240 if he's among those peers, then he's probably playing at 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.840 a pretty high level. And I wanted to kind of 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.240 bounce this idea off you, Marcel, because I did the 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.800 podcast by myself most of the time, and so I'm 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.400 talking to myself and convincing myself. I guess of things, 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.480 but it's nice to have a guest on here, because 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.079 what I thought I saw during these OTAs was a 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.840 guy that, again we know, he can push the ball 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.640 to these receivers and you know, they they're landmarks, tend 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.240 to be a little bit deeper than most teams because 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.160 they have that speed, and he hits them with good 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.400 anticipation down the field and it generates a lot of 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.800 explosive plays, you know, fifteen twenty yard and bigger chunk plays. 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:12.719 But I thought we saw a more measured approach from 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.960 Tua during these practices where he was finding quicker outlets 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:17.800 and getting the ball to his backs and tight ends. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.560 Does that excite you the way it excites me, because 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.280 obviously not great for like the you know, the explosive 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.160 big plays everyone gets excited about. But to me, I 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.520 think I can keep the offense more on schedule, get 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.800 a better third down conversion rate, and just overall make 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.800 your offense more efficient. Yeah. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.839 I think for as a coach, offensive coordinator, oftensive play card, 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.440 anytime you see your quarterback willing to hit. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.160 His layups, I think it's a I think it's a 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:42.920 positive sign. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.520 And it's kind of ironic that we're talking about this 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.560 at this stage because remember two years ago, it was 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.360 a narrative that those are the only passes that hit 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.240 like that was It's funny, But I think that it 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.160 all goes, It all works toward the goal of self preservation. 0:11:58.679 --> 0:11:59.400 For Tua. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:06.520 The concussions he sustained last year, they were mainly the 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.440 result of him trying to extend to play for a 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.000 little bit too long instead of taking something that's right there, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:13.320 possibly taking something that's right. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:14.280 There or getting rid of the ball. 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.800 So working on that short timing, those short passes, intermediate routes, 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.320 those quick hit routes. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.160 I hopefully it trains his his. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.560 His instincts to know when to say die essentially in 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.320 a play, to know when to say, Okay, we don't 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.040 need the ninety yard play. We don't need a massive 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.880 play here. We don't need it's definite need a Tyree. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.480 My fantasy team might need it, but we as the 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.360 Dolphins do not need that. So I think that's uh, 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.520 you know, they're working on that. Plus without like without 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.839 Tyreek on the field, Like, it's just not really the same. 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.840 It's not really the same offense. It's not the same offense. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.080 And you don't it can't be. 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:56.600 He demands such so much attention from an opposing defense 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.679 that it's just not the same With Jim Ladel and 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.320 Roberts out there. Those are two good receivers, but like, 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.760 let's let's not play ourselves here. 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.160 Let's not play ourselves here. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.480 Yeah, Diary, he's he's a different beasts, a different animal. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.280 And uh, you know, I thought that the addition of 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.160 chosen speed with what it can do to create more 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:16.920 space in terms of clear outs that you know, free 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.199 up some of the other routes that this offense likes 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.040 to run is intriguing because I don't think last year 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:24.120 they had that third speed element, you know between you know, 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.680 even a Micah sick, Pia trent Sherfield, River Craycraft good 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:29.960 receivers in their own right, but didn't have that you know, 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.160 top end four to three speed that Robbie possesses and 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:35.640 like you mentioned, was able to help him produce big 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.600 plays and thousand yard seasons with the Jets and Panthers alike. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:39.880 And a guy that if he can get back to 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.520 that form, gosh, watch out man. We'll get back to 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:43.599 that here in a second. But I want to go 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.880 back to the quarterback position to finish up here, because 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:49.640 you talked about something that I think was really poignant 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.800 in regards to the stability of that backup quarterback position. 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.439 It almost kind of goes in line with what Mike 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.400 McDaniel mentioned, you know, heading into the offseason, they didn't 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.240 feel like they needed, you know, a Teddy Bridge Water 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.760 Jacoby Brissette level veteran to kind of help Tua along 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.320 to it has become that guy, uh, you know, the 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.080 the unquestioned leader of the quarterback room of the offense 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:10.960 of the team. And so you get a guy that, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.959 in my opinion Arcel has more like high end upside, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.400 uh than maybe your previous backup quarterbacks did. With Mike White, 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.560 you haven't seen as much of his play because he's 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.240 going into your number five here. But then also Scalart 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.000 Thompson in the second year of the offense showing some 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.760 strides here in mini camp. I'm just curious how you 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.960 think that approached the backup quarterback position like and the 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:32.560 fact that those guys are battling it out, is that 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.000 ultimately a good thing for this Dolphins offense. There's competition 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:36.360 there at that backup quarterback position. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.040 Oh yeah, Competition is always good. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.280 You know, there's that's one of those Coach Speek Hall 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:46.160 of Fame quotes, the coach sweet Mount Rushmore quotes, where. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.760 You know, control, we can control. Competition is always good. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.960 But it's one that you can actually believe that competition 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.960 is always good at that position. And you know, the 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.520 thing that I will say about Mike White, while I 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.200 think Scallet Thompson has been the more efficient pass or 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.280 in the practices that we have seen, we know what 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.720 Mike White is capable of in game. We have seen 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.760 the three hundred yard, the four hundred yard performances. We've 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:11.880 seen lightning in a bottle, and I think that's what 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.440 that's ultimately what this signing was about. 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.200 They don't. You don't sign a backup quarterback hoping that 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.000 he plays. You don't do that. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.040 So like what they hope for is that, Hey, if 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:27.080 Tua has to miss time one, hopefully it's short, so 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.960 we're talking to game or two and two. Let's have 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.760 a guy who can capture that lightning in a bottle, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.400 who can come and be explosive for a game or 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.320 two until you know, defense figures it out or defensive 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.200 make adjustments and then we get our starter back. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.520 And that is what Mike White can do. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.320 So you know, I'm not sitting here disappointed with his 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.840 with his play or anything like that. I think that 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.160 we have seen what his tape. His tape has shown 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.680 what he can do. We know what Mike White will 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.760 bring whenever he enters the field. But I don't think 0:15:56.480 --> 0:16:00.720 anybody should write off Skylar Thompson. Last year, I thought 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:05.440 that if Skyler was not a seventh round rookie, that 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.440 he would seriously push Teddy Bridgewater for that number two 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.280 spot behind Tua. After the training camp, we saw, yeah, 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:13.920 this is not last year. He has game experience, he 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:18.960 has playoff experience, he has playoff road game experience. He 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.640 is a different kind of guy, and he is just 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.440 simply consistent every practice that we've seen from him. I 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.480 just you know, this is less about Mike White and 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:30.400 more about praising what Skyler Thompson. 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.040 Has been able to accomplish over the past year. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.560 That's exactly how I was going to kind of wrap 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:35.960 it up there, but you did it perfectly there saying 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.680 that it's more of a you know, a I guess, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.960 not an indictment of Mike wipe a, rather appraising of 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.880 Skylar Thompson the work he's done here because ultimately it 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.000 just makes the Dolphins better. And I think you mentioned 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.200 Mike White's tape, like I go back to a couple 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.280 of my favorite backup quarterbacks of all time are Ryan 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.360 Fitzpatrick obviously because you know he has that like you 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.240 mentioned that spark off the bench, and then my guy 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.840 from Washington State, Gardner Minshew, I think is really well 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.200 equipped to be a guy that, like you mentioned that 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.040 lightning in a bottle and we saw it from Mike 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:03.520 White and his tape with the Jets. 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.359 There are some really good, you know, throws on that 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:05.960 tape as well. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.400 So I think the Dolphins just benefited from in general, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.160 that entire quarterback room coming together, and not to mention 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:12.960 that James Blackman as well getting some reps here in 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:14.840 training camp or I should say mini camp so far, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.200 a lot of talent from that player coming out of 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.639 Arkansas State previously with Florida State as well. That's the 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.480 quarterback room you all touched on, the running backs and 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.440 the receivers. We're gonna go ahead to take our first 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.119 break right there and come back on the other side 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.400 and talk about those groups. That's the next My guest 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.560 today Marcelle Luis Jocks from ESPN your host, Travis Wingfield 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:36.439 Drive Time podcast brought to you by Auto Nation. So 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.920 you left off your first takeaway piece talking about the 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.720 running back position and you went into the devon a 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.440 chain hype train here as it were among the media group. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.239 But you know, he's he's made all the tweets, all 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.800 the practice reports, and why not when you have explosive 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:52.679 plays both in the run game and pass game. But 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.520 I just want to kind of look at this running 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.600 back room, you know from a bird's eye view, because 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.200 you mentioned Savon Ahmed Marcella, You're not going to find 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:00.840 a bigger Savan Akhmed fan the mea. 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.160 I've been talking about him really since his first year here. 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.280 How explosive I thought he looked Raheem most It is 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.040 a guy that I think doesn't get enough credit for 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.720 what he does in terms of not just the production, 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.120 but the way he I think complements the passing game 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.480 because of his speed to the perimeter. I think, you know, 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.520 a Chane fits that mold as well obviously too, and 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.560 then the fullback position with alec Ingold and kind of 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.679 how he opens up different thanks for this offense that 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.440 really a lot of teams can't get to because there 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.000 just aren't that many alec Ingolds in the world anymore. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.400