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Speaker 4: your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, part two
Speaker 4: of our summer Roster Reset series. Here of two parts,
Speaker 4: we'll talk with ESPN's Marcel Louis Jock about the offense,
Speaker 4: his Ota takeaways, and much much more. Here from the
Speaker 4: Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 5: This is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 4: Heye gaff, Let's go ahead and welcome in my guest
Speaker 4: today talking all things Miami Dolphins twenty twenty three offense,
Speaker 4: Marcel Louis Jock and joining me today from ESPN, Marcel
Speaker 4: Louis Jack. Marcel, thanks for joining us today talking some
Speaker 4: Dolphins offense, some Dolphins OTAs, and welcome into the podcast
Speaker 4: for the first time, my friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, pleasure to be here squeezing out last bit
Speaker 1: of football before basically what summer vacation. Yeah, it feels
Speaker 1: a little told just to call it that, but I
Speaker 1: mean that's kind of what it is, right.
Speaker 5: It's exactly what it is.
Speaker 4: My wife is a teacher, so she actually does go
Speaker 4: on summer break, and so our jobs line up pretty
Speaker 4: well in that way.
Speaker 5: I know you're a big traveler as well.
Speaker 4: Man, you got your thing on the docket here coming
Speaker 4: up for the summer break, as it were.
Speaker 1: I might be heading up to New York slash etiquette
Speaker 1: here in a couple of weeks, Haley.
Speaker 2: My girlfriend's birthday is at the end of the month.
Speaker 1: I'm going to use up some of those sweet Disney
Speaker 1: passes and head up to Orlando for a couple of
Speaker 1: days before hanging out here in Miami for a week
Speaker 1: or so. I actually got a wedding in Minneapolis or
Speaker 1: Minnesota that area into July early August as well.
Speaker 2: I might miss a couple of days of training camp
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: But beyond that, man, my big trip was we went
Speaker 1: to Cabo for Kemp Wolf's thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 2: Nice. I think it was into March or beginning of April,
Speaker 2: one of the two. But that's it. Man. We do
Speaker 2: a lot of traveling in the year.
Speaker 1: So I kind of liked my home time when I
Speaker 1: get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I always you know, home home was one
Speaker 4: of the hardest for me. I'm typically kind of a
Speaker 4: veg out kind of guy, especially being up pairing up
Speaker 4: to these days, but getting out is nice. I'm heading
Speaker 4: back up to my stomping grounds in Washington State later
Speaker 4: this month as well, so I think everybody I've talked
Speaker 4: to gets out for at least a little bit.
Speaker 5: But you doing Cabo and New York makes me a
Speaker 5: little bit jealous.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 5: I can't lie about that.
Speaker 2: Marcel, hey man, look, it's uh, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: I guess it was a blessing.
Speaker 1: It was a blessing. I'm actually I've never been to Washington, man,
Speaker 1: I've never been. I've always wanted to go to like Seattle.
Speaker 1: I wanted to catch a game like I went to
Speaker 1: Arizona State obviously, so I wanted to catch like an
Speaker 1: as U U Dub game. I know those are the
Speaker 1: other guys for you that would be like, you're telling
Speaker 1: me you want to go to Tucson. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: do want to. I do want to see Washington at
Speaker 1: some point. I've never really I've been there. I think
Speaker 1: I had a short layover at an airport and that's
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 4: Hey, look, man, Pulman's got nothing for you or anybody
Speaker 4: that's not used to the area. It's it's got nothing
Speaker 4: for you, man. Like it's it's in the middle of
Speaker 4: the hills, the rolling police out there in eastern Washington.
Speaker 4: Just not a lot going on. So I don't blame you,
Speaker 4: because Seattle in the summertime is one of the most
Speaker 4: beautiful landscapes I think we have in this country in
Speaker 4: the entire Pacific Northwest kind of that way, but really
Speaker 4: up in that upper left corner, you can't beat it.
Speaker 5: When it's like seventy five degrees on a nice July
Speaker 5: day and you.
Speaker 4: Talk about going to a game, I would recommend a
Speaker 4: Maryor's game because those are about his chill vibes as
Speaker 4: you can.
Speaker 5: Get when it comes to the Northwest and kicking it
Speaker 5: up there.
Speaker 4: So that's that's our non football talk here, and we're already,
Speaker 4: as you can tell, in vacation mode. It sounds like Marcel,
Speaker 4: let's go ahead and revert back here to what happened
Speaker 4: on this practice field the last week and really going
Speaker 4: back to the last month over OTA's five practices observed. Out
Speaker 4: of how many it was, I forget the number. We
Speaker 4: saw five of the practices, and we talked to defense
Speaker 4: on the previous episode with Daniel Oyafusi and he he
Speaker 4: gave us his defensive takeaways. I'm curious to get your
Speaker 4: takeaways on the offensive side of the football. Here for
Speaker 4: your number two under Mike McDaniel, What did you see
Speaker 4: what did you like on the Dolphins offense during OTAs well?
Speaker 1: Let's start with what everybody wants to know, everybody wants
Speaker 1: to talk about, right, which is to look like he
Speaker 1: had more command of this offense. You know, it's been
Speaker 1: much reported. It's the first time he's ever been in
Speaker 1: the second year of an offense in his in his career,
Speaker 1: but he looks the part taking more of a little
Speaker 1: vocal leadership role. You know, that's been a pretty hot
Speaker 1: topic of conversation surrounding two over the past we'll call
Speaker 1: it two three years.
Speaker 2: What kind of leader is he is? He's not vocal.
Speaker 1: He's not a raw rock type of guy.
Speaker 2: I don't think you necessarily have to be.
Speaker 1: I think you can lead by example, even at the
Speaker 1: quarterback position, but nobody's going to turn it down if
Speaker 1: your quarterback is.
Speaker 2: Your vocal leader. So there's that behind him.
Speaker 1: However, behind him is not as stable as I think
Speaker 1: the Dolphins wanted it to be after signing Mike White,
Speaker 1: just because I think Skyler Thompson has outplayed him during
Speaker 1: the practices that we have been able to watch. And
Speaker 1: you know that's not to say we don't get to
Speaker 1: see Mike White in the film room. We don't get
Speaker 1: to see him in the in the meeting rooms, so
Speaker 1: we don't get to see that part. But from the
Speaker 1: five practices we saw, it looked like Styler Thompson might
Speaker 1: end up being QB too. And when I say not
Speaker 1: as stable, it's not knock on that quarterback situation. It's
Speaker 1: more like it's not decided. You know, when Mike White signed,
Speaker 1: I think he expected him to be QB two, And
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure going into training camp, I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure that that is what's going to happen once
Speaker 1: training camp is over, switching, you know, staying in the backfield.
Speaker 2: Man, I think the entire media.
Speaker 1: Corps has fallen in love with Devon Jing and for
Speaker 1: a good reason. Man Like he looks like an early
Speaker 1: candidate for Training Camp Darling of the Year. Like the
Speaker 1: verses to the way he's used, I can't actually say
Speaker 1: because of the media guidelines, but the way he has
Speaker 1: been used, the versatility he has displayed, the speed and
Speaker 1: athleticism that he has displayed, his aptitude is a route runner,
Speaker 1: and his agility after the catch. I think they're all
Speaker 1: going to carve a legitimate role for this guy out
Speaker 1: as soon as he's comfortable with the speed of the
Speaker 1: game preseason, in training camp, in practice, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: But once you once those you know, once the lights
Speaker 1: are on, once you're in the stadium, it changes a bit.
Speaker 1: So once he's comfortable with that level of play, with
Speaker 1: that speed of play, man, I think this guy is
Speaker 1: gonna have a special role. Uh, this offseason. Uh about Okmed,
Speaker 1: I thought looked good as well. Uh, he's a guy
Speaker 1: who he showed up last year at training camp. You know,
Speaker 1: didn't get the reps in season, but he made him
Speaker 1: count when he did. I think scored touchdown in Buffalo
Speaker 1: late in the season. But you know, I thought Achmed
Speaker 1: has looked has looked good behind Milton and Wilson. Wilson
Speaker 1: has looked explosive here his second year in Miami wide receivers.
Speaker 1: We didn't get to see a lot of Tyreek outside
Speaker 1: of position drills. Uh. From what he said the other
Speaker 1: day yesterday, technically that he's still learning this offense. That
Speaker 1: last year he was just going off vibes and still
Speaker 1: was on track to crack the two gay mark at
Speaker 1: a certain point before before injuries. Like, I think that's
Speaker 1: that's outstanding. So I'd expect massive things from him this year.
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddell basically operating as wide receiver one without Tyreek there,
Speaker 1: he still looked the part man.
Speaker 2: He's still one of the best receivers in the NFL.
Speaker 1: A lot of talk about wide receiver three and where that's,
Speaker 1: what direction that's going. After signing Robbie chosen after signing
Speaker 1: Braxson Verrios. I think that Robbie Chosen has been the
Speaker 1: lead he's I think he's the leader in the clubhouse
Speaker 1: for wide receiver three entering training camp. His downfield presence
Speaker 1: has been notable. There's been a lot of h who
Speaker 1: are Robbie's down there somewhere type passes that connects and score.
Speaker 1: I think that I think people forget who Robbie Chosen
Speaker 1: really is. Maybe it's because of the name changes, but
Speaker 1: I think people forget. I think people forget who he is,
Speaker 1: that this is a guy who's putting up a thousand
Speaker 1: yards or near a thousand yards with you know, Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold's of the world and he put up a thousand
Speaker 1: I think with Teddy Bridgewater. If Panthers and Jets Robbie
Speaker 1: shows up, then that this is one of the value
Speaker 1: signings of the off season. Without a doubt, I thought
Speaker 1: he's been actullently. Brackson Barrios is very shifty. Ericasucama hopefully
Speaker 1: making that second year jump. He's a guy who was
Speaker 1: a training camp Darling last year. Preseason Darling last year
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily translate in the regular season. If he's ready
Speaker 1: to take that next step again, that's that's a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick from a season ago that looks like it
Speaker 1: is going to pay off. So I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of positions. It's a long winded way
Speaker 1: of saying. You know that even without pads, you know,
Speaker 1: we can't see everything. But even without that pads, there
Speaker 1: were plenty of players who stood out.
Speaker 4: No, I appreciate it because you gave me multiple follow
Speaker 4: ups and takeaways to kind of address to go along
Speaker 4: the position groups here, and we'll touch on tight end,
Speaker 4: offensive line as well. But I want to go back
Speaker 4: to the quarterback spot and you know you mentioned too,
Speaker 4: and we'll start there because why wouldn't you, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean you look at his numbers last year. I
Speaker 4: mean eight point nine yards per pass attempt, a three
Speaker 4: to three to one, two five touch on interception ratio,
Speaker 4: two hundred and seventy two yards per game. He was,
Speaker 4: you know, one of the top quarterbacks in EPA per dropback,
Speaker 4: had one of the lowest sack percentage rates, the best
Speaker 4: passer rating, one of the top total qbrs, best downfield
Speaker 4: passing rate, like he just led the league in so
Speaker 4: many important categories or top two or three and so
Speaker 4: many of those, and you know, you look at the
Speaker 4: contemporaries that he's measured against in those statistics, and it's like,
Speaker 4: how do you want to refute this?
Speaker 5: Because I'm looking at this list.
Speaker 4: And it's Patrick Mahomes, it's Josh Allen, it's Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 4: it's Joe Burrow, It's two a tongue of by low Like,
Speaker 4: if he's among those peers, then he's probably playing at
Speaker 4: a pretty high level. And I wanted to kind of
Speaker 4: bounce this idea off you, Marcel, because I did the
Speaker 4: podcast by myself most of the time, and so I'm
Speaker 4: talking to myself and convincing myself. I guess of things,
Speaker 4: but it's nice to have a guest on here, because
Speaker 4: what I thought I saw during these OTAs was a
Speaker 4: guy that, again we know, he can push the ball
Speaker 4: to these receivers and you know, they they're landmarks, tend
Speaker 4: to be a little bit deeper than most teams because
Speaker 4: they have that speed, and he hits them with good
Speaker 4: anticipation down the field and it generates a lot of
Speaker 4: explosive plays, you know, fifteen twenty yard and bigger chunk plays.
Speaker 4: But I thought we saw a more measured approach from
Speaker 4: Tua during these practices where he was finding quicker outlets
Speaker 4: and getting the ball to his backs and tight ends.
Speaker 4: Does that excite you the way it excites me, because
Speaker 4: obviously not great for like the you know, the explosive
Speaker 4: big plays everyone gets excited about. But to me, I
Speaker 4: think I can keep the offense more on schedule, get
Speaker 4: a better third down conversion rate, and just overall make
Speaker 4: your offense more efficient. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think for as a coach, offensive coordinator, oftensive play card,
Speaker 1: anytime you see your quarterback willing to hit.
Speaker 2: His layups, I think it's a I think it's a
Speaker 2: positive sign.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of ironic that we're talking about this
Speaker 1: at this stage because remember two years ago, it was
Speaker 1: a narrative that those are the only passes that hit
Speaker 1: like that was It's funny, But I think that it
Speaker 1: all goes, It all works toward the goal of self preservation.
Speaker 2: For Tua.
Speaker 1: The concussions he sustained last year, they were mainly the
Speaker 1: result of him trying to extend to play for a
Speaker 1: little bit too long instead of taking something that's right there,
Speaker 1: possibly taking something that's right.
Speaker 2: There or getting rid of the ball.
Speaker 1: So working on that short timing, those short passes, intermediate routes,
Speaker 1: those quick hit routes.
Speaker 2: I hopefully it trains his his.
Speaker 1: His instincts to know when to say die essentially in
Speaker 1: a play, to know when to say, Okay, we don't
Speaker 1: need the ninety yard play. We don't need a massive
Speaker 1: play here. We don't need it's definite need a Tyree.
Speaker 1: My fantasy team might need it, but we as the
Speaker 1: Dolphins do not need that. So I think that's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they're working on that. Plus without like without
Speaker 1: Tyreek on the field, Like, it's just not really the same.
Speaker 2: It's not really the same offense. It's not the same offense.
Speaker 2: And you don't it can't be.
Speaker 1: He demands such so much attention from an opposing defense
Speaker 1: that it's just not the same With Jim Ladel and
Speaker 1: Roberts out there. Those are two good receivers, but like,
Speaker 1: let's let's not play ourselves here.
Speaker 2: Let's not play ourselves here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Diary, he's he's a different beasts, a different animal.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I thought that the addition of
Speaker 4: chosen speed with what it can do to create more
Speaker 4: space in terms of clear outs that you know, free
Speaker 4: up some of the other routes that this offense likes
Speaker 4: to run is intriguing because I don't think last year
Speaker 4: they had that third speed element, you know between you know,
Speaker 4: even a Micah sick, Pia trent Sherfield, River Craycraft good
Speaker 4: receivers in their own right, but didn't have that you know,
Speaker 4: top end four to three speed that Robbie possesses and
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, was able to help him produce big
Speaker 4: plays and thousand yard seasons with the Jets and Panthers alike.
Speaker 4: And a guy that if he can get back to
Speaker 4: that form, gosh, watch out man. We'll get back to
Speaker 4: that here in a second. But I want to go
Speaker 4: back to the quarterback position to finish up here, because
Speaker 4: you talked about something that I think was really poignant
Speaker 4: in regards to the stability of that backup quarterback position.
Speaker 4: It almost kind of goes in line with what Mike
Speaker 4: McDaniel mentioned, you know, heading into the offseason, they didn't
Speaker 4: feel like they needed, you know, a Teddy Bridge Water
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissette level veteran to kind of help Tua along
Speaker 4: to it has become that guy, uh, you know, the
Speaker 4: the unquestioned leader of the quarterback room of the offense
Speaker 4: of the team. And so you get a guy that,
Speaker 4: in my opinion Arcel has more like high end upside,
Speaker 4: uh than maybe your previous backup quarterbacks did. With Mike White,
Speaker 4: you haven't seen as much of his play because he's
Speaker 4: going into your number five here. But then also Scalart
Speaker 4: Thompson in the second year of the offense showing some
Speaker 4: strides here in mini camp. I'm just curious how you
Speaker 4: think that approached the backup quarterback position like and the
Speaker 4: fact that those guys are battling it out, is that
Speaker 4: ultimately a good thing for this Dolphins offense. There's competition
Speaker 4: there at that backup quarterback position.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Competition is always good.
Speaker 1: You know, there's that's one of those Coach Speek Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame quotes, the coach sweet Mount Rushmore quotes, where.
Speaker 2: You know, control, we can control. Competition is always good.
Speaker 1: But it's one that you can actually believe that competition
Speaker 1: is always good at that position. And you know, the
Speaker 1: thing that I will say about Mike White, while I
Speaker 1: think Scallet Thompson has been the more efficient pass or
Speaker 1: in the practices that we have seen, we know what
Speaker 1: Mike White is capable of in game. We have seen
Speaker 1: the three hundred yard, the four hundred yard performances. We've
Speaker 1: seen lightning in a bottle, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: that's ultimately what this signing was about.
Speaker 2: They don't. You don't sign a backup quarterback hoping that
Speaker 2: he plays. You don't do that.
Speaker 1: So like what they hope for is that, Hey, if
Speaker 1: Tua has to miss time one, hopefully it's short, so
Speaker 1: we're talking to game or two and two. Let's have
Speaker 1: a guy who can capture that lightning in a bottle,
Speaker 1: who can come and be explosive for a game or
Speaker 1: two until you know, defense figures it out or defensive
Speaker 1: make adjustments and then we get our starter back.
Speaker 2: And that is what Mike White can do.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not sitting here disappointed with his
Speaker 1: with his play or anything like that. I think that
Speaker 1: we have seen what his tape. His tape has shown
Speaker 1: what he can do. We know what Mike White will
Speaker 1: bring whenever he enters the field. But I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody should write off Skylar Thompson. Last year, I thought
Speaker 1: that if Skyler was not a seventh round rookie, that
Speaker 1: he would seriously push Teddy Bridgewater for that number two
Speaker 1: spot behind Tua. After the training camp, we saw, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is not last year. He has game experience, he
Speaker 1: has playoff experience, he has playoff road game experience. He
Speaker 1: is a different kind of guy, and he is just
Speaker 1: simply consistent every practice that we've seen from him. I
Speaker 1: just you know, this is less about Mike White and
Speaker 1: more about praising what Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 2: Has been able to accomplish over the past year.
Speaker 4: That's exactly how I was going to kind of wrap
Speaker 4: it up there, but you did it perfectly there saying
Speaker 4: that it's more of a you know, a I guess,
Speaker 4: not an indictment of Mike wipe a, rather appraising of
Speaker 4: Skylar Thompson the work he's done here because ultimately it
Speaker 4: just makes the Dolphins better. And I think you mentioned
Speaker 4: Mike White's tape, like I go back to a couple
Speaker 4: of my favorite backup quarterbacks of all time are Ryan
Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick obviously because you know he has that like you
Speaker 4: mentioned that spark off the bench, and then my guy
Speaker 4: from Washington State, Gardner Minshew, I think is really well
Speaker 4: equipped to be a guy that, like you mentioned that
Speaker 4: lightning in a bottle and we saw it from Mike
Speaker 4: White and his tape with the Jets.
Speaker 5: There are some really good, you know, throws on that
Speaker 5: tape as well.
Speaker 4: So I think the Dolphins just benefited from in general,
Speaker 4: that entire quarterback room coming together, and not to mention
Speaker 4: that James Blackman as well getting some reps here in
Speaker 4: training camp or I should say mini camp so far,
Speaker 4: a lot of talent from that player coming out of
Speaker 4: Arkansas State previously with Florida State as well. That's the
Speaker 4: quarterback room you all touched on, the running backs and
Speaker 4: the receivers. We're gonna go ahead to take our first
Speaker 4: break right there and come back on the other side
Speaker 4: and talk about those groups. That's the next My guest
Speaker 4: today Marcelle Luis Jocks from ESPN your host, Travis Wingfield
Speaker 4: Drive Time podcast brought to you by Auto Nation. So
Speaker 4: you left off your first takeaway piece talking about the
Speaker 4: running back position and you went into the devon a
Speaker 4: chain hype train here as it were among the media group.
Speaker 4: But you know, he's he's made all the tweets, all
Speaker 4: the practice reports, and why not when you have explosive
Speaker 4: plays both in the run game and pass game. But
Speaker 4: I just want to kind of look at this running
Speaker 4: back room, you know from a bird's eye view, because
Speaker 4: you mentioned Savon Ahmed Marcella, You're not going to find
Speaker 4: a bigger Savan Akhmed fan the mea.
Speaker 5: I've been talking about him really since his first year here.
Speaker 4: How explosive I thought he looked Raheem most It is
Speaker 4: a guy that I think doesn't get enough credit for
Speaker 4: what he does in terms of not just the production,
Speaker 4: but the way he I think complements the passing game
Speaker 4: because of his speed to the perimeter. I think, you know,
Speaker 4: a Chane fits that mold as well obviously too, and
Speaker 4: then the fullback position with alec Ingold and kind of
Speaker 4: how he opens up different thanks for this offense that
Speaker 4: really a lot of teams can't get to because there
Speaker 4: just aren't that many alec Ingolds in the world anymore.
Speaker 5: This running back room and fullbacks.
Speaker 4: Included your bird's eye view of it when you incorporate
Speaker 4: you know Ingold Moster on top of your comments with
Speaker 4: a Chane and Akmed.
Speaker 1: I think it's versatile. I think it's deep, especially considering
Speaker 1: where it's come from over the past past few years,
Speaker 1: how it's developed over the past few years. I think
Speaker 1: they go a little under the radar because of the
Speaker 1: star power outside the position, because of the the TuS
Speaker 1: on the offense and the Tyreeks and the Jalen Want
Speaker 1: on the offense Toron's, they go a little unheralded. But
Speaker 1: Raheem Mostert was one of the more efficient runners in
Speaker 1: the NFL once he started getting carries once he took
Speaker 1: over midway through the seasons, as did the facto lead back.
Speaker 1: But while he is obviously one of the fastest players
Speaker 1: in the NFL, fastest players on the team, at the
Speaker 1: very least, I see he's like that, like that Arian
Speaker 1: Foster type style of type of run. You know, that
Speaker 1: one cut and I'm gone, like once I get that space,
Speaker 1: hitting it hard. Devon a Chain adds a different element,
Speaker 1: like that Barry Sanders type element where I'm gonna dance
Speaker 1: and shift and duke and I'm gonna get my yards
Speaker 1: that way. Disclaimer, this was not Marcel Luisjacques calling Devon
Speaker 1: h in the next Barry Sanders. I know how y'all do.
Speaker 1: Don't do me like that. It's just it's simply a style.
Speaker 1: You know, if you watch his text A and M tape,
Speaker 1: you watch what he's been able to do on the
Speaker 1: practice field.
Speaker 2: You kind of see, you see the you see the
Speaker 2: influence there.
Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, while running back wasn't a
Speaker 1: huge draft need for this team, you know, it's usually
Speaker 1: kind of a luxury pick, but I thought that in
Speaker 1: that third round range, considering the type of.
Speaker 2: Player he was he is, that this is a perfect
Speaker 2: it's a perfect fit.
Speaker 1: Not to mention he is being I gotta be careful
Speaker 1: here because I don't want to get my past suspended
Speaker 1: before we even go to training camp.
Speaker 2: But his ability as a.
Speaker 1: Pass catcher is more advanced than I expected it to
Speaker 1: be coming into mini camp. I think he's more advanced
Speaker 1: as a runner and more advanced after the catch. Now,
Speaker 1: you got to take everything we see with the grain
Speaker 1: of salt here in ot is in mini camp, because
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not even playing thud right now. There's
Speaker 1: no pads, so you can kind of run forever, and
Speaker 1: plays tend to players are are allowed to run longer
Speaker 1: than they generally should. But I think the early signs
Speaker 1: I've been promised and then an alec Ingold, like you
Speaker 1: said there is it's hard to compare because there is
Speaker 1: no other alec Ingold in the league. It's hard to
Speaker 1: compare the impact and the value of a of a
Speaker 1: full back.
Speaker 2: Black Ingle, a guy.
Speaker 1: Who does so much downfield and does so much to
Speaker 1: move a defense and distorted defense and paid ways for
Speaker 1: his runners that you know, easy, He's an invaluable piece.
Speaker 1: He's an invaluable piece. There's a reason he's still on
Speaker 1: this team in an era where fullbacks.
Speaker 2: Have kind of gone by the wayside.
Speaker 4: You mentioned the comparison, you know, and I always get
Speaker 4: you know, my my radio co host Seth levit gets
Speaker 4: on me for comparing, you know, players, and hey, you
Speaker 4: know what, scouts do it all the time. Like every
Speaker 4: single player that scouts talk about has a pro comp
Speaker 4: because they want to kind of give you an idea
Speaker 4: of what their skill set looks like. You know, I
Speaker 4: think that alec ingole in a lot of ways is
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniels, Kyle used check that Kyle Shanahan has out
Speaker 4: there by the bay in San Francisco. And the way
Speaker 4: it kind of you know, creates matchup problems because that
Speaker 4: twenty one personnel grouping, you better come with your base
Speaker 4: defense and then from there you can throw the football
Speaker 4: into some advantageous matchups.
Speaker 5: That way, as well, so.
Speaker 4: That's why I think this running back room kind of
Speaker 4: generates is his some matchup issues. And you talk about
Speaker 4: a chain and his receiving skill set, I mean, have mercy. Man,
Speaker 4: if you can get that speed and that route running
Speaker 4: ability acclimated quickly, that could just add another element to
Speaker 4: the offense.
Speaker 5: And then a guy we don't talk about enough, I
Speaker 5: think also is.
Speaker 4: Jeff Wilson, who to me is a little bit of
Speaker 4: the change up to the rest of us running back
Speaker 4: room that has so much speed and explosiveness. How do
Speaker 4: you see Jeff Wilson's role kind of fitting here with
Speaker 4: Dolphins backfield because he has like an edge to him. Marshall,
Speaker 4: the way he runs the ball is not nice to
Speaker 4: put it, I guess frankly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not kind. It's not considerate of defenders. I
Speaker 1: would say that he brings a certain kind of juice
Speaker 1: and his role is solidified, and that he's a he
Speaker 1: is more of.
Speaker 2: A thumper than a chain and moster it are.
Speaker 1: He's going to get tough yards, He's going to grind
Speaker 1: out those dirty three read a five yard short yarded
Speaker 1: situation carries. But he's looked pretty explosive. This this offseason
Speaker 1: as well. Like that's not to say he can't run,
Speaker 1: like he's been hitting the holes pretty quickly. He's been
Speaker 1: getting downfield and finishing his runs off. But I think
Speaker 1: his role, his defined role, will be that energizer, the
Speaker 1: guy who when he lowers his shoulder, it's the whole
Speaker 1: sidelines and stuff.
Speaker 4: I thought he was a nice little shot in the
Speaker 4: arm to the offense last year when he arrived. I
Speaker 4: think he had touchdowns some back to back games, but
Speaker 4: I had like one hundred yard game in there as well.
Speaker 4: So a guy that hopefully in his second year, you know,
Speaker 4: with this team, I know it's a similar system, but
Speaker 4: second year with its exact team maybe gets even more
Speaker 4: production of more looks.
Speaker 5: That way, let's go.
Speaker 4: Ahead and pivot to the group that really I think
Speaker 4: kind of took the NFL by storm last year, and
Speaker 4: the wide receivers. You talked about Tyreek off the top,
Speaker 4: So I don't I don't expect you to, you know,
Speaker 4: do your whole, your whole slung and dance on him
Speaker 4: again because we know what he is. Jalen Waddell, I've
Speaker 4: been beating that drum for a long time now, just
Speaker 4: saying how I think this guy's one of the best
Speaker 4: in the NFL. He's certainly proved that last year, just
Speaker 4: in a second season. But you know, Jackson Barrios, Robbie Chose,
Speaker 4: and Tyreek Hill, Cedric Wilson, Jillian Waddell, Eric Azukama, Chris Coleman,
Speaker 4: River Craycraft, Brulan standers day.
Speaker 5: With Davis and Freddie Swain.
Speaker 4: So I think we're the conversation here starts and almost
Speaker 4: ends Marcel because again we know we have in ten
Speaker 4: and seventeen is that number three role? And you talked about,
Speaker 4: you know, Robbie Chosen, and I would agree with you
Speaker 4: that he really stood out in a way that kind
Speaker 4: of you know, gave him I guess front runner going
Speaker 4: in training camp for that role. But I'm curious how
Speaker 4: you think about this because I'm looking at that role
Speaker 4: and you know, this is a group that only played
Speaker 4: forty five percent in eleven personnel last year, so that
Speaker 4: it was like the fourth lowest NFL using three receiver
Speaker 4: sets and alec Ingolds big part of that was two
Speaker 4: back sets in the running game. But I look at
Speaker 4: this group and I'm looking at you know, Robbie Chosen
Speaker 4: is way different than Cedric Wilson is way different than Braxon,
Speaker 4: Barrios is way different than Eric Azukama and River Craycraft.
Speaker 4: They're all unique in their skills and what they offer.
Speaker 4: So I kind of look at it like, is this
Speaker 4: a group that we shouldn't think about as who is three, four, five,
Speaker 4: six and so on? Is it more of a group
Speaker 4: that we should look at and say they have different
Speaker 4: matchup pieces and they can attack that defense that week
Speaker 4: accordingly with these varied skill sets.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think wide receiver three is going to be
Speaker 1: more of a construct than.
Speaker 2: An actual position.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's more of an idea, right like who is
Speaker 1: our who is the who's our non Tyreek and Jalen
Speaker 1: receiver right now? But yeah, if you need you want
Speaker 1: short yardage separation, you can go Barrios. You want somebody
Speaker 1: who can stretch the field, you can throw Chosen in there.
Speaker 1: If you want, uh, you know, a bigger body, more
Speaker 1: physical receiver, you can throw Cedric Wilson or Eric Zukama,
Speaker 1: and like there's a lot of or even you don't
Speaker 1: even have to use the receiver per se Travis.
Speaker 2: Like you can throw.
Speaker 1: You can put h Soberd out wide, you can put
Speaker 1: Higgins or turn O'Connor out wide. You can put devon
Speaker 1: Ah Chain out wide, you know there. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be it's more of a construct
Speaker 1: than an actual than an actual position. But it, like
Speaker 1: I like what you said, it's a versatile wide receiver room.
Speaker 1: These guys all offer something different and uh, you know
Speaker 1: there's not really there's not really any redundancies on this team,
Speaker 1: and uh it's they've been exciting, they've been exciting to watch.
Speaker 2: I can't wait until.
Speaker 1: We can see you know, full good on good and
Speaker 1: obviously Jaalen Ramsey rehabbing that shoulder injury wasn't playing in
Speaker 1: team drills. So again with no Tyreek and no Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of take these these team eleven on eleven,
Speaker 1: seven on the sevens with a grain of salt. But man,
Speaker 1: once training camp starts, that is gonna be. I'm excited
Speaker 1: for fans to see it too, because it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be quite an environment there at Baptists Health.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I was going to get to is
Speaker 4: how excited these fans have to be to come out
Speaker 4: and watch a roster that just has matchups on top
Speaker 4: of matchup on top of matchups, and the one on
Speaker 4: one ones are gonna be fun. You know, they lose
Speaker 4: aws that go on during those drills. Then on the
Speaker 4: team drills obviously, and the joint practices. Lots to look
Speaker 4: forward to before our last break here, and we'll do
Speaker 4: the offensive line last because it's the biggest group here,
Speaker 4: and we'll get to that for a full third segment.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about tight ends.
Speaker 4: You mentioned Eric Sabert there a little bit. He's made
Speaker 4: some plays out here in camp. We know about Durham Smyth.
Speaker 4: Let's just been on the list actually, Tyler Croft, Tanner,
Speaker 4: Connor Durham Smith, Eric Sobert, Elijah Higgins, Julian Hill. It's
Speaker 4: it's an interesting group, Marcel, because you don't really have that,
Speaker 4: like you know, where's your George kid.
Speaker 5: You don't have that, But you have a bunch of
Speaker 5: guys kind of like that.
Speaker 4: Third receiver role where it's like different skill sets, different
Speaker 4: types of players and stylistic you know, approaches to the game.
Speaker 4: I'm curious how you view this tight end group because
Speaker 4: not the marquee name, star power, but a group that
Speaker 4: I think is deeper than it's.
Speaker 5: Been in a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is no there's no more Mica Sicky. There's
Speaker 1: no more you know, kind of name brand, household, name
Speaker 1: brand recognition on this roster anymore. But they all they're
Speaker 1: all so well rounded, Like I don't think you can
Speaker 1: key what they're doing based on who's on the field,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously, unless like you know, if Tanner Connor
Speaker 1: is active on game day, Tanner cron is on the field,
Speaker 1: you probably guess it's a passing situation because he's not
Speaker 1: known as a blocker. But the other guys, Tyler Kraft,
Speaker 1: Durham's Smith, Eric Salbert, these are guys who efficiently can
Speaker 1: do both tasks that a tight end is traditionally asked
Speaker 1: to accomplish. Obviously, the team is very high on on Durham's.
Speaker 1: My Heed essentially was taken over as a starter throughout
Speaker 1: the middle of last training camp and it hasn't really
Speaker 1: relinquished that role. There is no like you said, there's
Speaker 1: no George Kittle, you know, thousand Travis Kelce, thousand yard
Speaker 1: receiving tight end on here. But these are guys who
Speaker 1: can get open in a tight space. These are guys
Speaker 1: who can catch and make plays after the catch and
Speaker 1: ultimately with so many other weapons on this roster, I
Speaker 1: think that's that's also valuable. You know, you don't need
Speaker 1: a Travis Kelcey on this. You don't need a George Kittle.
Speaker 1: Obviously they would love one. They're not going to turn
Speaker 1: one down. But I think these guys are plenty k
Speaker 1: doing exactly what they're asked to do within this offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a team Lake Kansas City who got Travis Kelcey
Speaker 4: and then basically said, you know, receive a room, will
Speaker 4: go by committee in that group and build up the
Speaker 4: offensive line around Patrick Mahomes. Two really like really good
Speaker 4: offenses built in different ways there. It's always been a
Speaker 4: fascinating comparison to me with the Dolphins and Chiefs and
Speaker 4: how those teams are constructed and ultimately productive on that
Speaker 4: side of the football. Last question here for the tight
Speaker 4: ends for to take our last break and go to
Speaker 4: the offensive line, because you just look at the roster
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, like you know, you mentioned Croft Smythe
Speaker 4: and Sober are guys that you know can kind of
Speaker 4: do a little bit of both in terms of what
Speaker 4: tight ends are asked to do. But then that group
Speaker 4: beyond them, like if They're young, they're they're not proven yet,
Speaker 4: but they certainly have upside for that kind of f position.
Speaker 4: The move tight end piece like Tanner Connor.
Speaker 5: Has a lot of athletic ability.
Speaker 4: Elijah Higgins, I loved his college tape, and then Julian
Speaker 4: Hill is a guy that has gotten some pop as
Speaker 4: well and caught a few balls here and there. I'm
Speaker 4: just curious how you view that tight end group beyond
Speaker 4: those guys up top, and how those developmental guys can
Speaker 4: kind of come along and carve out a role for
Speaker 4: themselves come training camp.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Tenor Connor advocate. I'm a big ten
Speaker 1: of Connor advocat. I was really excited to see what
Speaker 1: he was able to do last training camp. I think
Speaker 1: after the catch, he might be the best tight end
Speaker 1: that the Dolphins have right now. We actually got to
Speaker 1: talk to him, I believe it's two days ago, and
Speaker 1: it was so introspective about how much of a struggle
Speaker 1: it was for him to learn the position on the
Speaker 1: fly last year, because, I mean, tight end is already
Speaker 1: the hardest transition to make from college to the NFL,
Speaker 1: and when you are learning tight end and then learning
Speaker 1: tight end at an NFL level. I think that you're
Speaker 1: expected to kind of come along slowly, and he admitted
Speaker 1: that he said he felt like he was over his
Speaker 1: head at times last season, but this year he feels
Speaker 1: like it's less think and more react. He even mentioned
Speaker 1: that you know, his coaches joke with him and tell
Speaker 1: him like, hey man, you're not the last guy huff
Speaker 1: the ball anymore.
Speaker 2: Like you were last year.
Speaker 1: He said, last year he was like looking at everybody else,
Speaker 1: like seeing, okay, what's the defense doing. Okay, now I
Speaker 1: can do this now. It's it's instinct, and so I
Speaker 1: like that Hill is a very is a very big
Speaker 1: person as well. Like it's it's very funny seeing the
Speaker 1: juxtaposition between the two Hills on the team.
Speaker 2: One Hill is a lot is a lot bigger Hill
Speaker 2: than the other. But I think that size, that size
Speaker 2: and the way that he can move.
Speaker 1: Is going to benefit him throughout his career wherever it
Speaker 1: takes him, whether he stays here makes it fifty three,
Speaker 1: where he goes elsewhere. I can't say I want to
Speaker 1: see him with pads on first, but you can't deny
Speaker 1: the physicality there. And I like Higgins too. I think
Speaker 1: that he and I don't want to say he and
Speaker 1: Connor are are redundant. I think they have a little
Speaker 1: different games. I think Higgins is a little more of
Speaker 1: an over the top pass catcher than Dan Connor is.
Speaker 1: But I think it's exciting to have.
Speaker 2: I think that they're kind of like throwing they're they're
Speaker 2: they're throwing a couple of.
Speaker 1: Darts at the wall right here, saying hey, are are
Speaker 1: any of these you know, slot tight end, receiving tight end?
Speaker 2: Can they fit?
Speaker 1: Can they mold into a guy who you know is
Speaker 1: truly dominant in the passing game.
Speaker 2: So it's it's exciting to see.
Speaker 1: But I think that they do have a level of
Speaker 1: consistency and they have a high enough floor with Sobert
Speaker 1: and Smike in no particular order obviously, because that is
Speaker 1: not something that I can report exactly.
Speaker 4: And you got Tyler crofton there as well, and Tyler
Speaker 4: as well. The way you talk about that, like it
Speaker 4: just reminds me how difficult training camp is going to
Speaker 4: be to watch because of all the different pieces we
Speaker 4: have to look at and kind of decipher. I mean,
Speaker 4: you kind of have to pick your battles each day
Speaker 4: because this group, like you mentioned, you know, Connor and Higgins, like,
Speaker 4: I want to watch both those guys, but I've got
Speaker 4: so much other stuff going on that's tough, tough to
Speaker 4: really decipher. You know, who's who's winning that matchup, as
Speaker 4: it were, that competition, I should say at this group,
Speaker 4: but no, you hit that well.
Speaker 5: I thought that was well said.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and take our last break right here
Speaker 4: and come back on the other side and talk about
Speaker 4: the offensive line.
Speaker 5: That's next.
Speaker 4: Marcel Louis Jack from ESPN's my guest, your host Travis
Speaker 4: Wingfeld on the Draft Time podcast, brought to you by
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Speaker 5: One more segment to go here in our Roster Reset series.
Speaker 5: You heard from Daniel OYOFUSI on the defense. You're hearing
Speaker 5: now from Marcel Louis Jack on the offense. And we're
Speaker 5: going to finish it up here with the big uglies,
Speaker 5: the guys up front. Let's go down this offensive line group.
Speaker 5: It's a long group.
Speaker 4: The last one to bring us home here, Connor Williams,
Speaker 4: Alamo Lave, Robert Jones, Lester Cotton, Dan Feeney, Robert Hunt,
Speaker 4: Kendall lamb Isaiah win To, Ron Armstead, Austin Jackson, Liam Eichenberg,
Speaker 4: James Tunstall, Ryan Hayes, Keon Smith, Jeron Christian and Cedric Abwahi.
Speaker 4: So you know, we didn't get a look at Tron
Speaker 4: Armstead or Connor Williams out here, which I think can impact,
Speaker 4: you know, your overall production when you have your top
Speaker 4: two guys in my opinion on a position group that
Speaker 4: are not out there. So, like you talked about grain AsSalt,
Speaker 4: not to mention, you know, no pads makes it difficult
Speaker 4: to get a real feel for that. But I look
Speaker 4: at this group, Marcel, and it's it's three guys that
Speaker 4: you know about because last year, you know, past block
Speaker 4: efficiency rates from Pro Football Focus had to Ron Armstead
Speaker 4: ninety eight point one, which is really crazy for a tackle,
Speaker 4: Rob Hunt ninety eight and then Connor Williams ninety eight
Speaker 4: point six.
Speaker 5: Really good numbers there from your three guys.
Speaker 4: And then it's the other two spots that you know,
Speaker 4: I think you know, Chris Greer mentioned penciling in Liam
Speaker 4: Eikenberg and Austin Jackson out there for the spots, but
Speaker 4: they've they've added tons of competition there.
Speaker 5: I'm curious how you.
Speaker 4: View what the offensive line, or I should say, the
Speaker 4: approach to the offensive line and how they kind of
Speaker 4: constructed this group of offseason because build around those three guys,
Speaker 4: you know, support the high draft picks and provide competition
Speaker 4: for them in the interrum I should I should say
Speaker 4: with the boy he and obviously Isaiah Winnings some other guy's.
Speaker 4: Dan Feeney, just kind of your thoughts and how the
Speaker 4: Dolphins approached the offensive line this offseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of mirrors exactly what they've been essentially
Speaker 1: telling us for the past two offseasons, which is.
Speaker 2: They believe in their young talent.
Speaker 1: They believe in Austin Jackson, they believe in Liam Eikenberg.
Speaker 2: We already know.
Speaker 1: I think Williams are said and Rob Hunt arguably don't
Speaker 1: need to discuss them strictly because we know what they are.
Speaker 2: We know those are their top three offensive linemen. But
Speaker 2: they believe in those other guys. They believe that in the.
Speaker 1: Staff believes that they are capable of developing these players
Speaker 1: into what they were drafted, what they were drafted to be,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what we saw. We didn't see
Speaker 1: big splashy additions, you know, Dan Feeney, I think it
Speaker 1: can push for a starting job, Isaiah win can push
Speaker 1: for a starting job, but ultimately they just added quality
Speaker 1: depth because at offensive line, injuries are unfortunately going to happen.
Speaker 1: They're going to happen. Is I don't know the numbers
Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but I would be
Speaker 1: shocked if an NFL team has ever made it week
Speaker 1: one to week sixteen or even week seventeen now with
Speaker 1: the same five offensive line, no injuries, you know, no
Speaker 1: bang ups, no time missed. So you're gonna need quality
Speaker 1: depth at that position or those positions. That's exactly what
Speaker 1: we saw them saw them do it. Not just quality depth,
Speaker 1: but versatile depth. Isaiah Wynn can play two or three positions.
Speaker 1: Panie can play two or three positions. The way he
Speaker 1: can play both tackle spots. So it's a lot of
Speaker 1: plugging and playing going along or going on for Chris
Speaker 1: Breer and in this offensive line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's you know, it's I think that you
Speaker 4: can in a lot of ways, Like you mentioned Tanner
Speaker 4: Connor coming off the football and you know how he
Speaker 4: kind of had to learn to get everything second nature
Speaker 4: so he can play at that speed. We've heard coach
Speaker 4: McDaniel talk about this a few times with how you know,
Speaker 4: the offensive line kind of has to retrain the way
Speaker 4: they play the game, with you know, firing off the
Speaker 4: football and playing more you know, instinctive rather than reactive
Speaker 4: to what the defense does. I'm curious how you think
Speaker 4: that might benefit this offense here in the second year,
Speaker 4: because you know, all these guys are coming back really
Speaker 4: almost running it back, and continuity is something on the
Speaker 4: offensive line they haven't had much of here in Miami,
Speaker 4: So you think the continuity might kind of play a
Speaker 4: bigger fact than folks talking about out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they got enough of a sample
Speaker 1: size to make a definitive decision who, you know, who
Speaker 1: deserves to be here still, who needs to who they
Speaker 1: need to move on from this that and the third,
Speaker 1: I think they haven't their top five played because when
Speaker 1: did Austin get hurt in Week one?
Speaker 2: The first half? Right, Yeah, very.
Speaker 1: Quickly, So they played a handful of snaps together with
Speaker 1: their top five on the field, So they didn't get
Speaker 1: a full evaluation of what this top five could be like.
Speaker 1: And because there's no full evaluation, it would be hasty
Speaker 1: to move on from it, just because again there's some
Speaker 1: maybe unrest among Dolphins fans about what this position should
Speaker 1: be I think again, like kind of what we saw,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm crossing in the Daniel's territory here
Speaker 1: talking about defense, but it's kind of like what we
Speaker 1: saw with their defensive backfield, right, Like their biggest issue
Speaker 1: was not talent per se, it was depth. They ran
Speaker 1: out of players eventually, and that's the lesson that Chris
Speaker 1: Career learned.
Speaker 2: That's why you saw Cam Smith go in the second round.
Speaker 1: Kind of same deal where talent isn't isn't necessarily the
Speaker 1: problem as much as.
Speaker 2: Depth was in quality depth and versatile depth at that.
Speaker 4: I think that the biggest thing you can look to
Speaker 4: is and I will say they played as well as
Speaker 4: you could for a street free agent coming in mid season.
Speaker 4: But I think the idea here is hopefully if you
Speaker 4: do get the attrition that you know, unfortunate like you mentioned,
Speaker 4: does happen on the offensive line, that you don't have
Speaker 4: to go into the street free agent pool and you
Speaker 4: can just pull up you know, whether it's a Cedric,
Speaker 4: a boy here, Isaiah win Kendall, there's so many guys
Speaker 4: on this list that have given you quality backup reps
Speaker 4: in the patch that perhaps you can go in that
Speaker 4: direction and like you mentioned, it's it's it's I don't.
Speaker 5: Know the word for it, but it just it's. It sucks.
Speaker 4: I guess that both Liam and Austin, you know, in
Speaker 4: kind of critical years for them, both indoored injuries last year.
Speaker 4: Hopefully they can stay healthy this year and show you
Speaker 4: why they were first and second round draft pics because,
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, the talents there, but better depth this
Speaker 4: year as well, so interesting group, lots to watch this
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