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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 1: for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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Speaker 2: The Star and Frasco.

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Speaker 3: Now your hosts Votch Lombardy, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy

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Speaker 3: Yarish and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 4: Today is Thursday, April ninth, twenty twenty six, and we

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Speaker 4: are fourteen days away from the NFL Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller Like the

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Speaker 4: only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. This first segment is

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Speaker 4: brought to you by your Texas four dealers, Ford is

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Speaker 4: the best in Texas two weeks out. We've got Voch Lombardi,

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Speaker 4: Nick Harris, Tommy Yarish with Chris Beam in the back

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Speaker 4: of Kyle Yeomans. Gentlemen, good to be back today after

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Speaker 4: missing on Tuesday. We'll get Bobby Belt back on Tuesday

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Speaker 4: day as well. He had what happened Tuesday, Kyle, We

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Speaker 4: had a we had a retreat.

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Speaker 2: And when you say we, you mean like y'all like

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Speaker 2: the department.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that we like the department. No, unfortunately not.

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Speaker 5: I think if you would have asked to be included.

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Speaker 4: I bet you they would have let you go.

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Speaker 2: What's the word in English for we but not me?

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Speaker 6: Excluded?

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Speaker 4: Left out?

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Speaker 2: Tommy, Give another word for like we?

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Speaker 6: But I wouldn't take my ball and go home.

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Speaker 7: Give another word, you know, we like, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 7: around at all like I wouldn't even.

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Speaker 8: I don't have a word for that. We missed you though.

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Speaker 7: That's a lot y'all. Ain't think y'all ain't thinking about

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Speaker 7: me too. I came up here, talk crazy about this

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Speaker 7: cool look. Enjoy y'all little vacations.

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Speaker 2: Man, what y'all do?

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Speaker 4: It was a nice time here on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me, you drove up here on Tuesday?

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Speaker 7: Or mis interpret No, no, no, no, I didn't drive up

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Speaker 7: while I wouldn't have drove up here. I just know

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Speaker 7: that they like to, you know, the fully employed people.

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Speaker 7: You know, what I'm saying is on the insurance and

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Speaker 7: all that they like to bring them cats and take

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Speaker 7: them to go do things while the lowly bottom of

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Speaker 7: the barrel work hard every day. Kas we don't even

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Speaker 7: get up. I can't even get a YETI cup. I

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Speaker 7: can't even get a al g TV. I can't give

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Speaker 7: a black rifle cough. I can't get nothing.

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Speaker 4: I've got two polos for you upstairs for Draft weekend,

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Speaker 4: but you but you're gonna get them.

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Speaker 2: Oh that Polo? Yeah, Polo, Yes, Miller, you know whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm on that.

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Speaker 6: It wus to that.

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Speaker 5: I was about to say, you made the decision to

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Speaker 5: leave that so used to be that cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah the Uh yeah, appreciate you guys being patient with

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Speaker 4: us and being back today.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Lots to catch up.

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Speaker 4: On in the world of thirty Visits, and Nick Harris

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Speaker 4: Fort Worth Star Telegram has done a good job of

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Speaker 4: reporting some of these thirty visit names that have made

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Speaker 4: their way through the Star and frist go, Nick, would

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Speaker 4: you want to run through the names or do you

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Speaker 4: want to just kind of hit on a couple of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we could definitely run through the I've got them

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Speaker 6: right here. Yeah, go ahead, because I if I's kind

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Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So some of the no does, as I like to

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Speaker 6: Side that I did not report all of these, just

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Speaker 6: why are you reporting all these I didn't report all these, Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I just want that. I just want that noted.

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Speaker 4: Glad you brought that up. So these are not all

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Speaker 4: reported by Nick Harris. This is just the article from

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Speaker 4: the Fort Worth Star Telegraion. That is, that is where

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Speaker 4: State linebacker Rvel Reese, Texas Tech defensive end David Bailey,

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Speaker 4: Of course they're going to talk to those guys type

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Speaker 6: Will say, and Bobby has hammered on this point multiple

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Speaker 6: And you know, we've seen them, you know, maybe swing

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Speaker 6: for them to bring in guys that are above their

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Speaker 6: They're playing great, I guess, but I think this many,

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Speaker 6: I think it is notable. I think it's signals that

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Speaker 4: You agree with the same kind of sentiment there, Tommy,

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Speaker 4: I see the vision.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that.

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Speaker 9: You know, I've only been on this beat for two years,

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Speaker 9: but they've brought guys in the past that have maybe

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Speaker 9: been higher than what they've shot for has been this

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Speaker 9: many that you know. That's the point that Nick and

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Speaker 9: Bobby are making, which is correct and.

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Speaker 8: Fair, you know.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if it's necessarily an indicator of like,

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Speaker 9: all right, they're trading up.

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Speaker 8: Here we go.

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Speaker 9: It's not necessarily I think that if you're going to

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Speaker 9: at least explore the option you want to get your

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Speaker 9: would that would be the strategy that I.

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Speaker 8: Think you're doing if that is the case.

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Speaker 9: But you know, I'm sure there have been plenty of

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Speaker 9: of guys on their pro day tours, not just Brian Schottenheimer,

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Speaker 9: Christian Parker and that crew, but you know there are

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Speaker 9: other scouts they've sent out across the country as well.

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Speaker 9: I know the draft meetings with a full staff are

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Speaker 9: probably going through this week. So it's not necessarily an

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Speaker 9: end all, be all indicator, But there's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 9: checking all your options, vetting all your options and seeing

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Speaker 9: who some guys are that you know you need. You

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Speaker 9: on this defense. I don't know if you can say,

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Speaker 9: like you can get one in this class, then you know,

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Speaker 9: weigh all your options.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, votch, do you think that that's a pretty good

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Speaker 4: indication of where they may be looking?

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Speaker 2: Man? Who knows? Man?

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Speaker 7: People like every day they love lying to us, they

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Speaker 7: love keep us in the dark, they love misdirecting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's that time of year.

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Speaker 7: Two, You know what I mean, we just see a

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Speaker 7: bunch of reports like, hey man, we love Monroe freely

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Speaker 7: magically out of nowhere. Like what you're trying to say

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Speaker 7: right now, you're really trying to give us a feel

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Speaker 7: that Morrow should be looked at this or you just

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Speaker 7: lying because this is the time of year with everybody

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Speaker 7: like lying. So I try not to lean into the

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Speaker 7: thirty visits too much. I guess to give you a

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Speaker 7: little content on the question that you asked, I wouldn't

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Speaker 7: assume that the Cowboys would waste thirty visits on the

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Speaker 7: if you are in a situation like the Cowboys and

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Speaker 7: your defense is terrible, I would imagine that they would

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Speaker 7: want to do more research on the dudes that they

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Speaker 7: can get it liketyty foy two ninety one and one fourteen.

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Speaker 7: I would imagine they would have want to be more

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Speaker 7: locked in on ninety two, third round and their fourth

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Speaker 7: would want to get those guys right, so instead of

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Speaker 7: wasting picks, Hey, figure, these dudes out and maybe the

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Speaker 7: dude that you get it five. You have enough information

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Speaker 7: on those dudes. But if they want to trade up,

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Speaker 7: go get somebody. Knock yourself out. I don't want to

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Speaker 7: talk about a knee circus. But if its own draft

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Speaker 7: day and we suited and booted in they trade up,

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Speaker 7: it'll be a little party.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. Well.

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Speaker 9: The other note too, that the advantage of Dallas has

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Speaker 9: had for years now with these pre draft visits as

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Speaker 9: prospects that are either from the Dallas Fort Worth area

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Speaker 9: or playing at schools in the Dallas Fort Worth area

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Speaker 9: count as local visits, and they can come through the

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Speaker 9: Stars as many times, not at any times they want,

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Speaker 9: but they don't count against that thirty visit tally. So

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys are in a position to where in a

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Speaker 9: more advantageous position.

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Speaker 8: I think that some other.

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Speaker 9: Teams, just because of the level of talent going to

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Speaker 9: the NFL that comes from the Dallas area really across

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Speaker 9: that may be coming through count as those local visits, don't.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Everybody that's been reported, so I wouldn't know who exactly

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Speaker 6: For Yeah, Texas corner Malik Muhammad, Texas linebacker, Anthony Hill,

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Speaker 6: tight end Eli Stowers, LSU quarterback, Garrett Nussmeyer, CHUCKI D Yeah,

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Speaker 6: s m U tight end, Matthew Hibner, Uh yeah, Chucky

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Speaker 6: D at SFA corner, Charles DIMIs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Look, if you haven't watched him, you need to.

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Speaker 2: Chucky D. Charles him, that's what he calls himself.

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Speaker 4: Chuck.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We met him at the Senior Bowl. It was a

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Speaker 4: great interview. I'm glad you were there. It was good stuff, Chucky.

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Speaker 6: But uh, there are a few others that were in

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Speaker 6: that mix. But those are the those are the big

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Speaker 4: The local guys.

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Speaker 7: Could you all educate me on some I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I'm not media report guy. I just do YouTube. I

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Speaker 7: talked Craze on Twitter, and I just work here every

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Speaker 7: now and then, right, Uh, you know like the Dallas

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Speaker 7: Day viz, those like the Sneaky Little Hey, Well yeah,

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Speaker 7: we just happened to meet him at Dallas Day. We

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Speaker 7: didn't use the thirty on because we just met him here.

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Speaker 7: Y'all tell me from wrong because I could be wrong,

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Speaker 7: but I just had this illuminati theory. I was watching

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Speaker 7: BT Jordan on Twitter watch his social media machine, and

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Speaker 7: I was like, damn boy, all the top prospects kind

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Speaker 7: of come around here, and man, they got Caleb Downs

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Speaker 7: working on pass rush moves at the BT Jordan pass

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Speaker 7: rush school Boy, what what that mean? Correct me if

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Speaker 7: I'm wrong, But like do the Cowboys have the ability

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Speaker 7: to tap him on show? Like, hey man, what you

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Speaker 7: thought about this cat when you was working with when

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, Nick got him and just me watching film

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Speaker 4: In some areas, you had him as your number eight

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Speaker 6: I mean I played classified safety on him, but I mean,

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Speaker 9: That's just the way that I think the defensive back

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 9: First of all, I've been I've been lower on terrell

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Speaker 9: that stuff is concerning. And if the hamstring is a

442
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Speaker 9: real thing, then that's concerning.

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Speaker 8: So you know, if you have a if you.

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Speaker 9: Have a guy that we say, hey, he can play Nickel, Okay,

445
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Speaker 9: well how quick be at Nickel, then that's a problem.

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, I think that there's more roles

447
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Speaker 8: than just covering when you.

448
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Speaker 9: Play Nickel, right, like you have to be a blitzer,

449
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Speaker 9: you have to play against the run. I think last

450
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Speaker 9: year you saw in the film that he was much

451
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Speaker 9: more effective as a blitzer. Got three sacks, and then

452
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Speaker 9: he's got a good knack for forcing the ball three

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Speaker 9: five forced fumbles. But if it's if it's a quick

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Speaker 9: trigger thing where you got to change direction, he can't

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Speaker 9: do that as well, then yeah, absolutely you might need

456
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Speaker 9: to slide him down a little bit for that.

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Speaker 4: I talked with a contact of mine it with the

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Speaker 4: Clemson coaching staff, and they thought Avionterrell was going to

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Speaker 4: run a four to three four four forty like. They

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Speaker 4: thought he was four to three possible speed, not four

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Speaker 4: to three even but in the four threes and when

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Speaker 4: the four to six four popped up, they were a

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Speaker 4: little surprised by it.

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Speaker 2: So little.

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Speaker 4: Just something to keep in mind. I think it's we've

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Speaker 4: talked about this one way or the other one hundred

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Speaker 4: times on the Draft Show before, but it's it's just

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Speaker 4: informational points. It didn't move it a whole lot. But

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Speaker 4: I also wasn't on the page of saying, let's move

470
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Speaker 4: up Jacob Rodriguez, let's move up Dylan Fiena men, just

471
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Speaker 4: because they had an incredible combine workout and whatever. I'm

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Speaker 4: not knocking Avion Thrrell. I have him at the beginning

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Speaker 4: of the second So the fact that Nick saying he's

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Speaker 4: probably available in the early thirties, that's right around where

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Speaker 4: I have him, and that makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: just he doesn't necessarily make sense for Dallas unless there's

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Speaker 4: a trade down scenario, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I just wanted to bring

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Speaker 7: the conce This wasn't Draft Court, not like that. But

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Speaker 7: what I did notice, I'm just having a lot of

481
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Speaker 7: conversations online, and you know, in the event that somebody

482
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Speaker 7: gets wiped out, the Cowboys get wiped out, And I'm

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Speaker 7: noticing some of the names that people are saying if

484
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Speaker 7: the Cowboys are wiped out on defense, I would take

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Speaker 7: these guys at twelve. And Tarot is one of them,

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Speaker 7: you know, Tarot thingam In like Missador is like three

487
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Speaker 7: names that people will talk about as if I'm going

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Speaker 7: to go for defense no matter what. And I just

489
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Speaker 7: never been that high on Taro, And I just wanted

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Speaker 7: to know where everybody's thoughts were with the whole you know,

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Speaker 7: him running a four six situations where they come from.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I wouldn't take Tarrell at twelve or twenty.

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Speaker 4: Where would you take him if you trade Let's say

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Speaker 4: you traded up to six.

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Speaker 5: Wow, damn you trade up to six. No, I would

496
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Speaker 5: get thirty.

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Speaker 9: Not going to be there that low thirty nine. I

498
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Speaker 9: mean he would be in play. That's right around his area.

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Speaker 9: He's forty for me, So that would.

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Speaker 6: Be Ny Nichols. Are you taking above him? There's a lot.

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Speaker 9: Nickel corners, yeah, Keyante, Scott, Miami, just corners in general.

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Speaker 8: I've got a bunch in front of them.

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Speaker 9: Colton Hood, Tennessee, Chris Johnson, San Diego State, se Say,

504
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Speaker 9: South Carolina, Abney.

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Speaker 8: Abney I have below.

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Speaker 6: Oh well, we might have to fight on that one.

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Speaker 2: That's all right though, go ahead, you're right there, Yeah,

508
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Speaker 2: go for it.

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Speaker 6: I like Keith Abney a lot. I like him too.

510
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Speaker 6: Everything that you want for Avion Terrell, I think you

511
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Speaker 6: do have an Abney, and he's got the inside outside versatility.

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Speaker 6: I think he's got the length, he's got the speed,

513
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Speaker 6: he's got the twitch, foot quickness, the fluid.

514
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Speaker 2: Hips, all of it.

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Speaker 6: The only thing that I would like to see more

516
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Speaker 6: out of Abney is maybe a bit more physicality. But overall,

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Speaker 6: I'm a big Abney fan. But I've been stamping on

518
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Speaker 6: that a while here I have.

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Speaker 9: I don't just like Abnue either. I mean they're close

520
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Speaker 9: for me. They're only three four players apart.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, Yeah, they're close in that regard as well.

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Speaker 4: For me, it wasn't really, it wasn't some of these

523
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Speaker 4: other names that we haven't necessarily talked in depth about.

524
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Speaker 4: I know we've brought up guys like Josiah Trotter or

525
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Speaker 4: Kamari Ramsey, anybody that you would like to hit on

526
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Speaker 4: that specifically one of those two guys.

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Speaker 2: I got Trotter.

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Speaker 7: Let me just go down my linebacker rankers for me reestyles,

529
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Speaker 7: Alan Gold and I got Trotter right there, so I

530
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Speaker 7: have them over healing Jay Rodd. I know Jay Rodd

531
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Speaker 7: as fan base, but it's cool. But Jeremi Trotter man,

532
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Speaker 7: the instincts just jump off the film man diagnosed and

533
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Speaker 7: everything in front of him.

534
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Speaker 2: He's a fool in the run game.

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Speaker 7: I tend to give linebackers a little more credit when

536
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Speaker 7: they go down and thumping guards and offensive line and

537
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Speaker 7: stuff like that.

538
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Speaker 2: I love to see it.

539
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Speaker 7: Physicality off the charts when it comes to like the

540
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Speaker 7: coverage ability. Hey man, you know, with these linebackers, you're

541
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Speaker 7: gonna have to like pick a side. You know, if

542
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Speaker 7: you super fast, you may not diagnosed well. If you

543
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Speaker 7: great verse to run, you may not be great verse

544
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Speaker 7: to pass. If you phenomenal, you may be short.

545
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Speaker 11: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: You have to pick your battles with these guys. But

547
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Speaker 7: I got a two on Trotter. And if you could

548
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Speaker 7: live with the idea that somebody could possibly pick on

549
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Speaker 7: him in the passing game, or that he has room

550
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Speaker 7: to grow in the passing department, then cool. But also

551
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Speaker 7: also have him as a really good blister. But you

552
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Speaker 7: know that might be blood line or.

553
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Speaker 9: Something, but bloodline, like you mentioned, Jeremiah Trotter was born

554
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Speaker 9: to play linebackers. Dad played Linebacker's brother played linebacker and

555
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Speaker 9: still is in the NFL. So I like him a lot.

556
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Speaker 9: To have a high three on them.

557
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Speaker 4: Impressive when working downhill is what I have here. I mean,

558
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Speaker 4: uses his hands, his length effectively, quick first step puts

559
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Speaker 4: him in a favorable position, He gains leverage well, puts

560
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Speaker 4: better or it could be a better pass rusher than

561
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Speaker 4: his college tape suggests. I wrote that as a note.

562
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Speaker 4: I think you can add some stuff there. You add

563
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Speaker 4: a little past rush ability and and all of a

564
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: sudden he can do a number of things. He was

565
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Speaker 4: a little tight hip at times, especially in coverage. He's

566
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Speaker 4: not gonna move later really very well. So in a

567
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Speaker 4: system like this, there's just there's some growth that that

568
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Speaker 4: would need to be had. But I've got him in

569
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Speaker 4: this in the late second, so you had an early third.

570
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Speaker 4: I haven't.

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Speaker 8: Josiah Trotter, by the way, sorry, Jeremiah's brother.

572
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Josiah, what's the size?

573
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Speaker 4: I'll be easy, Uh, I don't have it in front

574
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Speaker 4: of me. Six two two thirty. What did he go

575
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Speaker 4: at the combine.

576
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Speaker 8: Do you haven't, I'm about to get it. It is.

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Speaker 9: Six two two thirty seven thirty two and a quarter

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Speaker 9: inch arms ten and a quarter inch hands there.

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Speaker 7: So, Nick, you would assume from like the measure, from

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Speaker 7: the measurables and all that the Cowboys would probably rock

581
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Speaker 7: with him.

582
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Speaker 2: And all that.

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Speaker 6: I don't think there's necessarily a box that these linebackers

584
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Speaker 6: are going to fit on her from a measurable standpoint.

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be more so a traits standpoint.

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Speaker 6: And as long as the quote unquote brain works as

587
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Speaker 6: they as they've put many times, uh, then you're I

588
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Speaker 6: think that's probably where you'll see a linebacker get drafted

589
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Speaker 6: to this team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they got to fit under those trade lines that

591
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Speaker 4: they've talked about a couple times. Well, McClay talked about

592
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Speaker 4: it with us on on Radio Row in Indie where

593
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Speaker 4: he was talking about traits and you're not going to

594
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Speaker 4: discount a player because or not draft a player just

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Speaker 4: because he doesn't have the traits. If they can play

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Speaker 4: really well and they can walk on water, then they're

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Speaker 4: going to end up taking guys like that.

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Speaker 2: Touring Yorks and ware with this pump and now maybe.

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Speaker 4: That's the case. Maybe that's the case. All right. When

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Speaker 4: IOWA tight ends, LSU wide receivers, Clemson players in general.

660
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: What where's kind of the thought process where you can

661
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: and or do scout the helmet and it actually kind

662
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: of works out? In your favor.

663
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: I tried to see.

664
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you scout the scheme, that's the one that

665
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 6: comes up the most.

666
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: Chris Browns was so nice.

667
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 7: He's so nice, but I just feel lied to when

668
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 7: I'm watching him, because I just know what would come

669
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 7: with them, with them colors.

670
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: And them running past people.

671
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 7: Man, you know, I've seen that same scene right or

672
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 7: nine Route at Tennessee a gajillion times. Them dudes never

673
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 7: do it in the league. Chris Browse does a lot

674
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 7: more than just that. But I just feel lied to.

675
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 7: As far as like positives, Iowa lineman and tight ends that,

676
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 7: you know, they always seem to be, you know, decent.

677
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 6: So so, how do you feel about Jennings Dunker.

678
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: Jennings Dunk is so tough. He is so tough.

679
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 7: I think he's a I think he's more of a

680
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 7: guard than a tackle. I would have loved to have

681
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 7: seen Iowa's offensive line with Dunker at guard, both Stevens

682
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 7: at the other guard, and then it's uh, James Jones, Logan,

683
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 7: James Logan, Logan Jones at cent. Those are like that

684
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 7: interior would have been stupid. I just watched all those guys.

685
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 7: Logan and both probably gonna be like fifth round guys.

686
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 7: But I got Dunker as a third round guard as

687
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 7: opposed to a tackle. But I respect them as a

688
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 7: tackle because even with you know, the lack of range

689
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 7: that you have and movement and all that and kind

690
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 7: of stiffness and the lack of lateral legility, you still

691
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 7: like whooped a lot of quality, like edge dudes to

692
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 7: be a guard playing tackle.

693
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 2: So shots at the Jenny's Dunker Georgia defenders.

694
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 6: It's another one to add to the list.

695
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 4: Oh, that is a good one. Just going back to

696
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 4: Iowa that like that offensive line. They were voted the

697
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 4: best offensive line in football. They had guys across the

698
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 4: board there, so I'm not surprised they threw Dunker to

699
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: the to the tackle spot, and I could see him

700
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: being a tackle in certain situations in the NFL. But

701
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 4: I tend to agree and lean with you guys, and

702
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: I would put I would push him at guard, push

703
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: them into guard.

704
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: They just had a lot of guard.

705
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 5: But I'm getting a possible theme here.

706
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: It's not necessarily scouting the helmet, it's scouting the scheme.

707
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: That's what it is. And even with Baylor wide receievers

708
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 4: that was back in our brial days where they were

709
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: doing our Brill's days, where they were doing some of

710
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: the similar stuff that Tennessee and Mississippi State do now

711
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 4: because of the tree and the type of scheme that

712
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 4: they run, and we're seeing the scheme be the problem

713
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: as opposed to the actual prospects and the team's being

714
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: a problem. So keep that in mind when you're quote

715
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: unquote scotting the helmet.

716
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 7: Also to think about, like Ohio State like their worst

717
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 7: receiver in the past ten dresmen who like Michael Thomas

718
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 7: or something like something crazy like that, like something crazy

719
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 7: like that, you know what I'm saying. So they those

720
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 7: guys typically get like wide receiver, right and then there's it.

721
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 7: You know, some people seem to believe that, you know, yeah.

722
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: That's wild.

723
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: Ye think about it.

724
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying.

725
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 7: I'm like Upa comes out and Jackson Smith and you

726
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 7: can't miss with Ohio state wide receivers right now?

727
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 4: All right, that's it. Taking carnal tape.

728
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 8: You're all missed with the one next year.

729
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 6: How you feel about Jeremiah love it is how I

730
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 6: feel about carneal Tita twelve.

731
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: We can say cardinellal Tata eleven person.

732
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 6: Granted this, it would have to be a wipeout scenario.

733
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 6: You have no one on the board, no one is

734
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 6: available to trade back with you. But man, that would

735
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 6: be something else.

736
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: Let's just take Jeremiah Love at twelve and then, or

737
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 4: excuse me, let's take let's take Carnell Tate at twelve

738
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: and then let's get Jeremiah Love to twenty and then

739
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: we're gonna be good.

740
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

741
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, then we're just gonna score fifty five person.

742
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 8: Else, it's gonna be awesome. It's also gonna be awesome

743
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 8: for the other team.

744
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but incredible. All right, Taha wants to know, ah, Taha,

745
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: Uh play build a player and this is gonna take

746
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 4: a little bit of thinking. You're gonna have to go

747
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: to your Day three parts of your board here a

748
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: little bit, Yeah, Day three, select Day three potential guys

749
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: in the same position. Then pick your favorite trait or

750
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: skill set from each of those guys and combine them

751
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: into what you would think would be a Day one

752
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: caliber player.

753
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: So like pass rushes or something.

754
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, if we're gonna go pass rush, maybe you

755
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 4: want to see arm length, speed, bend pass rush move

756
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: things like that. If you're talking corner. Maybe it's speed

757
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: ball skills. Okay, take take three elements from Day three

758
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: guys to make them in Division one place Day one player.

759
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 7: I don't want to say a common name because my

760
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 7: cohorts may uh may may do that. But so Mason Raeger.

761
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 7: He's a pass rusher from Wisconsin. Fantastic rusher like you know, puts,

762
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 7: moves together, counters and all that great rush guy, high effort, motor,

763
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 7: good length and all that size.

764
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: Uh not the best run guy in the world.

765
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 7: All right, cool bet if I could take it, ain't

766
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 7: Danny Dennisons people because me, I want to say it, but.

767
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: Dennis Sudden, Deny, Fine, if I take.

768
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 7: If I take Dennis Sudden and like his build or whatever,

769
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 7: and his strength and his run, like his run game stuff,

770
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 7: and put that with Riga's pass rush stuff, and we

771
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 7: can keep Dennis Sudden's like size and length.

772
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: I think that's the first round.

773
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 11: Dude.

774
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: Hm, that's a good one. I like that.

775
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: I got.

776
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 8: I'm cooking that one.

777
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

778
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm writing it down so I can.

779
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 6: Okay, give me the smarts. I'm going to the linebacker

780
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 6: position here. Okay, give me the smarts intelligence of pre

781
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 6: and post snap diagnosing of land Or Barton out of Utah,

782
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 6: who I like just in general. First off, the physicality

783
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 6: of a m the physicality of like a Bryce Betcher

784
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 6: out of Oregon, and then the athleticism of a Harold

785
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 6: Perkins out of LSU. You combine all that you're gonna be,

786
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 6: You're gonna be.

787
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 7: I was I was thinking Perkins, but I had a

788
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 7: feeling one of my cool horts was gonna use it.

789
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate that Perkins.

790
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 7: Perkins if he was like a couple of inches tall

791
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 7: than like forty pounds from anybody and played to run

792
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 7: a little bit better, that's a guy right there.

793
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: That's top five pick right there.

794
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 6: I'm staying on the table if I hope he plays

795
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 6: running back at the next level, even though I know

796
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 6: that's even though I know it will not happen.

797
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 8: But you well, you're not the last one is gonna

798
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 8: mention him.

799
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 9: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna build a pass rusher as well.

800
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 9: Give me Keiron Crawford from Auburn's size and athleticism, Harold

801
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 9: Perkins's past rushability. Perkins from LSU denied Dennis Sutton from

802
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 9: Penn State's arm length and Ethan Burke from Texas's ability

803
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 9: to stop the run. I think he got a solid

804
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 9: first round player there.

805
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: Hmm, I'll get another one, Kyle.

806
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, go for it.

807
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 5: I'm looking at corner right now.

808
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: If I'm almost there.

809
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 7: If Red Murdoch did the fusion dance with Tory and York,

810
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 7: that dude's stupid good. Tory and York might be the

811
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 7: best covered linebacker in this class. I think he covered

812
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 7: better than Sonny for real. For real, he just five teen,

813
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 7: and he a little bitty, and you know, you can

814
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 7: kind of push around the run game a little bit.

815
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 7: Nobody pushes Red Murdock around. Red Murdoch hate offensive lineman

816
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 7: and you can see it in how he plays. But

817
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 7: going backwards, he's not that guy. Let them dudes do

818
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 7: the damn fusion dance, Kyle, See.

819
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: I kind of want to do the same thing at corner.

820
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: If you need more time, I'll give you a no.

821
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: I got it right here, I got it right here.

822
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 5: Ephesians price Sock, I love it.

823
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 4: Yeah. Ephijian's Price Sock, who I think is kind of

824
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: an underrated early A three guy out of Washington. I'll

825
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 4: take him, and I want his length and I want

826
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: him to fuse with di'angelo Pons out of Indiana. I

827
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 4: went like that, I did the same thing, suck, suck stop,

828
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 4: But the I want him to fuse with D'Angelo Pons

829
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 4: with a change of direction and the ball skills. So

830
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 4: I want the I just basically, I'm just saying I

831
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 4: wish Ponds was taller and longer and had.

832
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: A little bit better straight line speeds.

833
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 7: Something about all these guys, man, they are like they

834
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 7: fit these archetypes. Man, they fit these categories. But somebody

835
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 7: else do what they're bad. And if you could just

836
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 7: fusion dance these dudes, that'd be a fun little excit,

837
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 7: like who confusion danced the biz guy?

838
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: I like it, especially in day three.

839
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 8: I can't give you another corner.

840
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 9: Sure give me Chuck D's build and demeanor, D'Angelo Pon's

841
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 9: instincts and coverage ability, and Chandler rivers from Duke's physicality.

842
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 2: I like that.

843
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 4: It's a fun, little nice exercise. Appreciate you to ha

844
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: good good question.

845
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 7: Mark, how about this take Chris Brassel and just simply

846
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 7: put him in Bama something.

847
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: Just simply transfer somewhere else, just leave and just go

848
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: play somewhere else.

849
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 6: Player right there, you go play at Ohio State.

850
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: Me you automatically shoot straight.

851
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: Uh, this is a simple one. Rob wants to know

852
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 4: who's your pet cats this year. We haven't talked about

853
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: pet cats funny enough.

854
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 6: Chris Brassele's one of mine. Yeah, penem in, But I

855
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 6: feel like it's it's that's too easy. Let's go for

856
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 6: Let's look at like some day two, day three type guys.

857
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 6: If we're going that range.

858
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 7: I got ten names, Kyle. I actually tweeted this the

859
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 7: other day. Uh, gold Day linebacker Sincy Llewellyn pass rusher Iowa.

860
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 7: Rager pass rusher Wisconsin. Jeremy Bernard wide receiver Bama is

861
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 7: a key weely safety Penn State Melow height. Melow heights

862
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 7: is a two on my board. But I've seen people

863
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 7: say he might fall to late third. That makes him

864
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 7: pitcat territory. In my mind, so fine. I think he'd

865
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 7: be fantastic. I got a quarterback on my list, Cole

866
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 7: Payton from North Dakota State.

867
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: Here has me a DAK.

868
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 7: Prescott Wow, Mississippi State dak Press like not the Dak

869
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 7: there's like cerebral professor xst. You know what I mean,

870
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 7: I'm talking about Dak Prescott. I'm either gonna hit this

871
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 7: this or deep ball there or just run all y'all

872
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 7: over like that's Cole Pate And I hate quarterbacks for real,

873
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 7: but the twelve I watched he was one of the

874
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 7: you know, one of my favorite guys. He'll be a

875
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 7: fourth round pick. And uh, I just give a couple

876
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 7: more names. Brandon Cleveland, Uh, he's a nose from North

877
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 7: Carolina State doesn't go backwards land And Robinson, who's like,

878
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 7: hell yeah, who's five yeah from Navy Ye, beating the

879
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 7: hell out of.

880
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 8: Every he just does not lose and demand.

881
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 7: Clayborne, running back from Wake Forest. He just he's like

882
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 7: fundled the ball a little bit, but super explosive with

883
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 7: ads downfield.

884
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: He's fine. So those are my ten official petcats.

885
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 4: Interesting, yeah like that? Do you have any names?

886
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 8: Give me? Keante Scott Nickel corner from Miami.

887
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: Let's see here, twenty five years old. When the season comes.

888
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 8: Around, I do not care.

889
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 6: It means he's ready.

890
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 9: Harold Perkins if that counts from LSU. Mike Washington the

891
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 9: running back from Arkansas, good one. Emma Johnson the running

892
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 9: back from Nebraska, great one. Chandler Rivers the corner from Duke,

893
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 9: Tanner Cozial, the tight end from Houston. I love Tanner Cozial.

894
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 9: I'm on the fourth. Kiiran Crawford, the outside linebacker from Auburn. Uh,

895
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 9: Chuck d my guy from SFA. I'll say those.

896
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 4: I'll throw a couple of linebackers in there. Caleb larms

897
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 4: Or from TCU is a guy that I really like.

898
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 4: Carson Shire out of out Iowa, kind of an old

899
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: school Iowa linebacker man. Yeah, I mean he grew up

900
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: like watching Iowa football. He's from Iowa, falls like that

901
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: was just kind of his thing. Is he he fits

902
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 4: that bill too?

903
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: Super athlete? Is he want of them?

904
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 7: Hard working, hard working guys look as well?

905
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, super super cerebral. He had a sack against the

906
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: Pavia in their bowl game where he read it was

907
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: all the replay off of Vandy and he read it immediately,

908
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: quick trigger, fit right through a gap and then was

909
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 4: able to get to Pavia before he even saw him coming,

910
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: and it was it was good corners. We've talked a

911
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: lot about Chandler Rivers out of Duke. I have him

912
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: in like the early early or not early, the late

913
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 4: third like, I just think he's phenomenal. Same with Dyalen

914
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: Evertt out of Georgia.

915
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 6: You have Chandler River's in the late third. Yeah, you're

916
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 6: actually lower than a lot of people.

917
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 4: Really is he higher than that?

918
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, he'll be. He's got like second round.

919
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 5: I'm thinking size man like the size I think maybe

920
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 5: has me worried more. I guess I thought I was

921
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 5: higher on him.

922
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 6: He'll go day two.

923
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: Oh wow, good, that's where he should go. Yeah, that's

924
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: where that's where he needs to go. H Dylan Everett.

925
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: Where where is he kind of situated? I don't look

926
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 4: at a ton of like others.

927
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 6: I like him in the late second. I think he'll

928
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 6: probably be a third option that I'll sell you. If

929
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 6: he's there at ninety two and you haven't taken your

930
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 6: corner yet, that is a win.

931
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 2: That is a awesome.

932
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is a win.

933
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 4: I'd be all for that.

934
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 6: I'm adding Gabe Yakis to the mix. Okay, Illinois Edge

935
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: the heat man. He reminds me of a young d

936
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 6: Law coming out of Boise State. Can set the edge

937
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 6: motor is unreal. Love the physicality, the the the length,

938
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 6: the size, all of that, and then aj hallse the

939
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 6: safety out of LSU add to the mix, and then

940
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 6: but Clark the safety out of TCU.

941
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 4: I got one more for you. And I think when

942
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: it comes to safety position, there's they're searching for safeties early.

943
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 4: If you wanted to get a guy on day three

944
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 4: just to kind of like add depth, Cole was Newski.

945
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: I think, is that how you say his name or

946
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: with Nesky? With Nesky Texas Tech safety, I think he's

947
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 4: he is very raw, but he was the number one

948
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 4: graded PFF safety in twenty twenty three, had foot surgery,

949
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 4: missed all of twenty twenty four, transferred to text Tech

950
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. He still ended up being one

951
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: of the top graded safeties in college football. A lot

952
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 4: of that's because he played behind the front seven that

953
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: had all the guys in front of him that they

954
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: did with Jacob Rodriguez and David Bailey and Romelo Hight

955
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 4: and Lee Hunter and all that.

956
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 5: That always helps.

957
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: But I turned on the tape and there were a

958
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 4: lot of times when I was watching the Texas Tech

959
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: front seven and the guys that I just mentioned, and

960
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: I'm seeing this guy fly around wearing the number five

961
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 4: off the second level and he's just just blining good

962
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: quick reads quicker I think than maybe his testing served.

963
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 4: What did he run? He ran? Oh, he didn't run.

964
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 4: But even then, I think he's got some straight line

965
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 4: speed for sure. At the position he's tall, he's got

966
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 4: some link to him. So yeah, I would look at

967
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: Wesnski out of Texas Tech as a Day three guy

968
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 4: for sure.

969
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: One more.

970
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 7: Please, may I sure have y'all seen Jalen Farmer, the

971
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 7: guard from Kentucky. I need y'all to stop what you're doing.

972
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 7: And this is why I'm mad at y'all because y'all

973
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 7: will watch all the seventh round dudes.

974
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 6: So Connor Riley had dinner with him at his pro

975
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 6: day and personally worked him out.

976
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 7: He did, he did, So I found out today. I

977
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 7: found out the day because I'm higher on him than

978
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 7: some of my media friends are. But I found out

979
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 7: the day that the league is higher on him than

980
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 7: some of my media friends are. So Jalen Farmer Kentucky,

981
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,959
Speaker 7: Like you know, he's not a name that's being thrown

982
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 7: around a bunch, but just watching versus Georgia, watching versus

983
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 7: Texas and just watch him what one of the some

984
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 7: of the best d Linen in the whole country. Power dude,

985
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 7: strongest hell blockie, square down block guy. He's not the

986
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 7: most athletic in the world. But they was kind of

987
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 7: saying those same things by Tyler Booker in that way.

988
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 7: He's not exactly Tyler Booker. But if you can guys

989
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 7: like Christan Millard from Georgia or whatever, for example, like

990
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 7: if you can move guys like that off the line

991
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 7: of scrimmage just because you want to, I think that

992
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 7: he's definitely a name.

993
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: Y'all need to keep your eyes on.

994
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: I got two on them, a couple of different guys.

995
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 7: And it's only fourteen days away. So y'all don't want

996
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 7: to watch that school too, but I'll go watch him.

997
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: Jaylen Farmer, he was a senior Bowl guy. The name

998
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 4: was familiar, but I haven't watched him yet. He's all right.

999
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: Keeping that in mind, we're going to continue our conversation

1000
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 4: going into the final segment.

1001
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go back to the cornerback spot.

1002
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Speaker 4: Give me a little tell me more about some of

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1004
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Speaker 4: draft process, because Dallas might be looking at some day

1005
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,320
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Speaker 4: in the Dallas Cowboys Radio network for of a wired headphone?

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Speaker 6: Guy, are you they They sound better and I don't

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Speaker 6: lose them.

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Speaker 5: I feel it, you know, I get the second part

1057
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: And they're cheaper that that's also fair.

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Speaker 7: Get some gummies, you know, saying some old school gummies

1060
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1061
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 7: You're talking about gummies. They just don't make the phones

1062
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Speaker 7: with the.

1063
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 6: With the with the Yeah, you gotta have like app anymore.

1064
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't doing all that.

1065
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 8: You have to get the dongle for it. What the

1066
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 8: dongle converter.

1067
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 6: It is like you put the jack and the dongle

1068
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 6: and then yo, hey, like.

1069
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Speaker 8: I'm serious, that's what it's called for the phone.

1070
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 9: So you got the new like ports for the chargers

1072
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 9: here and then it connects to the way you can

1073
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 9: plug the headphones.

1074
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's Amazon that's on Amazon, Yeah, app store.

1075
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: What's it called again?

1076
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 8: Do gongle spell it? D O n g l E.

1077
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Speaker 5: I don't want to stop this conference.

1078
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 2: With the I'm so serious.

1079
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: I think it's clarious. But we're gonna move on.

1080
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: I just I just wanted to. I just know it

1081
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Speaker 2: was called I just was was it the capital?

1082
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 6: All right?

1083
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 4: All right, all right, we're going into corner conversations here.

1084
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: I want to talk about real fast.

1085
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Speaker 4: What's that I watched?

1086
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 7: I watched the offensive labrary yesterday and I put him

1087
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 7: on my board. Have y'all seen d pounds for old Miss?

1088
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 7: Have y'all seen him? Hey, y'all being do we have

1089
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 7: some film on old offensive tackle D pounds?

1090
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know for that, but he

1091
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: like he like six eight three to thirty eight pounds

1092
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: all play tackle?

1093
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, diego pounds.

1094
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: I was going deep pounds.

1095
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 7: I was watching him because I want to do this

1096
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 7: research project about Bain whooping long arm tackles.

1097
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: I was like, who is deep pounds?

1098
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 7: And uh, you know, showing up old miss played by heavy.

1099
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 7: They had a cool little day man. I said, you know, yeah,

1100
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 7: shouts out to it. You know, good player, diego pounds pounds.

1101
00:48:58,960 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we can go ahead.

1102
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: This offensive tackle out of Raleigh, North Carolina. That's a

1103
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 4: good stuff.

1104
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. Corners though he was one of.

1105
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 6: The tar heels that Bill Belichick walked in the door

1106
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 6: and said get out of here, he legitimately was.

1107
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 7: A lot Bill Belichick's hold deep pals and getting the

1108
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 7: hell out of here.

1109
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: I bet you did. I bet you did.

1110
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 4: Play it good stuff, Bill of Chat hate me. Come on, man,

1111
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 4: all right, let's get into some of these corners. I

1112
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 4: know you want to start with Will Lee the third,

1113
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: Texas A and M. We're going to try and hit

1114
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: some names that we haven't talked about throughout the draft

1115
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 4: process that maybe makes sense on Day three, but starting

1116
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: with Will Leave the third.

1117
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 6: Okay, So I want to start with the Texas A

1118
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 6: and M connection. Obviously with Christian Parker, he was an

1119
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 6: analyst there. He came up under Mike Elcho, not only

1120
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 6: at A and M, but also at Notre Dame with

1121
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 6: Mike Elko. So there is a ton of familiarity for scheme.

1122
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 6: I think when we talk about scheme fit and player fit,

1123
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 6: Will Lee is such a guy that jumps out to

1124
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 6: me and if he's there for you, at won twelves

1125
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 6: at the fourth pick one twelve. That's that's a run,

1126
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 6: run it to the table type of pick for me.

1127
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 6: I think he'll bring you some special teams value early

1128
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 6: on if you can't find a starting role for him.

1129
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 6: But I think from an outside corner perspective, he has

1130
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 6: the length and he has some of the best hips

1131
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 6: in this entire class as far as being able to

1132
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 6: track guys with a various route tree. The thing that

1133
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 6: gives me a little bit of pause with will Lee

1134
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 6: is if he's covering long speed guys vertical routes, that's

1135
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 6: where it's probably gonna get a little tough for him.

1136
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 6: And I think he's gonna really need reliable safety help

1137
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 6: over the top and mand a man coverage. But he's

1138
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 6: played a healthy amount of man, played healthy amount of

1139
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 6: his own Cover two, Cover three, Cover six concepts, a

1140
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 6: lot at Texas, A and M, so you have all

1141
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 6: that in his tool bag. Tackling I don't love, but well,

1142
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 6: we'll see as time goes on if he can, you know,

1143
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 6: correct those type of mistakes. And if he starts on

1144
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 6: special teams, he's gonna have to figure out how to

1145
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 6: get better at tackling. So will Lee, I'm a fan

1146
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 6: of I think the physical traits and the hips are

1147
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 6: just If you have that, you can teach everything else.

1148
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 6: In my opinion. Yeah, the speed on vertical routes is

1149
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 6: probably one thing you wouldn't be able to teach. But

1150
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 6: if you can have reliable help over the top for him,

1151
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be just fun.

1152
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 4: And when it comes to this system, the more that

1153
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: we've kind of dived into or dove into breaking down

1154
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 4: with Christian Parker probably wants a corner. They're gonna need

1155
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: guys that can move laterally, that can be fluid in

1156
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: their hips, can turn and run a little bit. He

1157
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 4: fits all those molds, all that all of that mold

1158
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 4: except for long speed. That's really about it. Yeah, that's

1159
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: that's interesting to think about. Could be a thing. Uh

1160
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: tell me a little bit about Devin Moore out of

1161
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: Florida Voch.

1162
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, Man, Devin Moore is one of those guys when

1163
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 7: we when we talk about these these corners, there's a

1164
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 7: lot of taller corners and I kind of throw them

1165
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 7: down at the bottom of my list. If they're tall,

1166
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 7: but they can't run, or they can't turn, or you know,

1167
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 7: they just might be a little whatever whatever. You know,

1168
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 7: those those leggaier guys because they're tall, But Devin Moore

1169
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 7: does have that issue, so I kind of move him

1170
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 7: up my board.

1171
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: I got a three on him.

1172
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 7: Devin Moore is a guy that can you know, turn

1173
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 7: and run, makes plays down downfield, physical press guy.

1174
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: Uh.

1175
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 7: I think he's better in man, but he made most

1176
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 7: of his plays end zone, which is awesome. So he's

1177
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 7: good at both. But he you know, sees things before

1178
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 7: it happens, and then he has ball skills. I don't

1179
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 7: know if he was a former wide receiver. That's not

1180
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 7: really things that I keep up with or whatever, but

1181
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 7: it did look like when the ball was in there,

1182
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 7: he didn't have a hard time finding it and making

1183
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 7: you know, making catches on or whatever.

1184
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: So shout out to him. Very aggressive at the line

1185
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. Some people may call him.

1186
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 7: Graby and you know, me personally, just being a Cowboy fan,

1187
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 7: I saw teams grab the Cowboys all year and nobody

1188
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 7: called it, so I assumed that they let in corners

1189
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 7: grab in the league now. So if it's a big problem,

1190
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 7: some coach can fix it or whatever. But Devin Morrees

1191
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 7: is a size I can run and cover type guy.

1192
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: He's nice. I got him in the third, top.

1193
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 4: Of the third for me, So it doesn't look like

1194
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: he was a full time wide receiver early in his career,

1195
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 4: but it does say that he had a seventy seven

1196
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: yard touchdown catch on offense. Same thing, same thing, so

1197
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 4: the at least he played a little bit of offense there.

1198
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: Just for contexts. He's sixty five on my board.

1199
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 4: Okay, tell me a little bit about Jalen Gilbo. Tommy

1200
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 4: port Arthur.

1201
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 9: Guy from who went to Texas. Interesting start to his career.

1202
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 9: He tore his ACL and MCL his freshman season and

1203
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 9: then came back. He's going to be a nickel option

1204
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 9: for you on day three, maybe later day three. Didn't

1205
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 9: have a ton of production in college in terms of

1206
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 9: taking the ball away, you only had one career interception,

1207
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 9: but just a solid cerebral player.

1208
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 8: He's athletic.

1209
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 9: What always stood out to me is like every time

1210
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 9: an opposing offense would try to throw a screen on Texas,

1211
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 9: Jalen Gilbert would blow it up like he's great at

1212
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 9: stiffing sniffing out those screen passes. And he was just

1213
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 9: a kind of a solid player, not really somebody that

1214
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 9: you necessarily look at the film and you're like, whoa

1215
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 9: number three is flying off of this? But I think

1216
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 9: he was a solid player. He's going to be able

1217
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 9: to come down and help you in the run game,

1218
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 9: maybe more than he will wow you with his coverage ability,

1219
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 9: but just kind of a okay, well rounded player that

1220
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 9: if you're sitting there in the fifth or sixth round

1221
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 9: and he's still available and you need some help on

1222
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 9: nickel or maybe even on special teams, that might be

1223
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 9: a good option for you.

1224
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 4: That was my first thought. With special teams, Yeah, you

1225
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 4: throw him on teams. I think he's got the right

1226
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 4: fit for that. Played well in the Trimbol practices when

1227
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: he was out here in Friscop Definitely something that caught

1228
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 4: my eye there. Guys, I want you to tell me

1229
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: about Latrell McCutchen senior out of Houston. I want you

1230
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 4: to tell me about him, Nick Harris, you covered him

1231
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: in high school.

1232
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 6: I did. Yeah, He's an Austin area kid originally went

1233
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,439
Speaker 6: to Oklahoma. Has had a couple issues off the field,

1234
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 6: but overall he's he's been able to provide a reliable

1235
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 6: rotational corner role in in c A A. I don't

1236
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 6: think he necessarily has a role in the league though.

1237
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 4: Okay, wow, okay, and that's fair. What about Tacario Davis Washington.

1238
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 7: Man, it's Caro so Washington got two tall long arm kids.

1239
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 7: I'm trying to find him on a little situation here too.

1240
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: Two long arm guys too.

1241
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 7: That's a physical to uh to uh priss man guys.

1242
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 7: He would go a size link top tier press, got

1243
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 7: another cat is gonna get a little grabby.

1244
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: And all that kind of stuff. And I don't care

1245
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: if I'll do all this time.

1246
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 7: But for him being tall, I thought he had some

1247
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 7: good closing bursts, and I didn't think that he gave wires.

1248
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 7: He was allowed of room to work. But when he

1249
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 7: ran into route runners, they did kind of shake him

1250
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 7: up a little bit. But he had great recovery length

1251
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 7: and speed right so if they did get past him,

1252
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 7: because he was running right, he was always kind of

1253
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 7: still right there. But the length kind of got him

1254
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 7: out of a lot of trouble there. So you know,

1255
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 7: you know, some of those vertical dudes, twitchy dudes could

1256
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 7: possibly give Hi an issue. I saw him playing Nickel sometime,

1257
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 7: but I hated it. I think he's probably gonna be

1258
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 7: a field corner type guy, because I do think he

1259
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 7: has some athleticism to move with more area to run around.

1260
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 7: But I got him in my fifth round grades right now.

1261
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 7: In any other class, he may have been a fourth

1262
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 7: round grade. But it's just so many corners. I just

1263
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 7: kind of got bumping him down or whatever. But nice player.

1264
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 4: I had the early fifth as well, so you're aware.

1265
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 4: But which could fit for Dallas again if they don't

1266
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 4: take a corner in those first three packs?

1267
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 7: I could be wrong, But to Carrio and Price Sock,

1268
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 7: they both coined as a wash and I think they

1269
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 7: both came from Arizona.

1270
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 2: They did.

1271
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, how flat would that be if you had both

1272
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 7: them dudes and Stokes and Genesis Smith owned the same

1273
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 7: second dary at Arizona.

1274
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: Well, that would have been stupid.

1275
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 4: And they still didn't win anything, and.

1276
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 5: They didn't win that It did not win anything and

1277
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,479
Speaker 5: weren't even the best team in that state.

1278
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 6: Well, somebody in the chat said t pounds first name

1279
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 6: was Dongele.

1280
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: He man, Hey, we're still laughing about that one.

1281
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 6: I like it.

1282
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 8: They can't fire, Yeah, there's another fire for that's what

1283
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 8: it's called.

1284
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Demani Jackson Alabama Tommy.

1285
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is a former five star player who uh he.

1286
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 4: Went to Alabama.

1287
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, well he went to USC originally and he

1288
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 9: was a huge get for USC when he was coming

1289
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 9: out as a recruit. Ended up transferring to Alabama, just

1290
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 9: kind of never really lived up to the billing.

1291
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 8: I don't think.

1292
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 9: I think you're getting a great trade six ninety four

1293
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 9: pounds thirty one and an eighth inch arms.

1294
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 8: You're going to four to four to one at the

1295
00:56:58,600 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 8: combine with a one.

1296
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 9: Eight ten yards split, But the tape was really never there,

1297
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 9: The production was never there this last year. Who really

1298
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 9: kind of struggled down the stretch. So I think you're

1299
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 9: looking at at a special team or to start, and

1300
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 9: you hope you can get him developed and back on

1301
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 9: the right tracks.

1302
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 8: You can take advantage of those traits.

1303
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 6: Me as the former recruiting guy, I'm going to defend

1304
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 6: the recruiting industry just a little bit on this one,

1305
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 6: because this happens a lot where you see like these

1306
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 6: athletic freaks in high school who are you know, DEMI

1307
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 6: gods physically and have all the right testing, and then

1308
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 6: they get to the college level and it just never

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00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 6: evolves past that. And that's tough to project. And so

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00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 6: this is a perfect example of that where Demani Jackson

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00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 6: maxed out super early, still has, you know, the athleticism

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Speaker 6: and frame to make it work in the NFL. I

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00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 6: just I'm with Tommy. I don't think it's necessarily as

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Speaker 6: a start.

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Speaker 8: And I hope that wasn't a dig it.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, not at all.

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Speaker 8: Great job, but that yeah, it just never put it

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Speaker 8: together on the field.

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Speaker 4: From a technical standpoint, I appreciate Nick going to back

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Speaker 4: for his recruit.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, should they work harder than anybody? They deserve the recognition.

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00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, Melvin wants us to throw out some cool

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 4: name guys, and I think this is a cool name.

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00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 4: Maybe not the best name in the draft, but Toreano

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00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 4: Pride junior from Missouri, Toriano Toriano has anybody?

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00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 6: What was that?

1328
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: Was?

1329
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: Definitely made it up? Who that is?

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Speaker 6: I have him in the fifth I just I don't

1331
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 6: have a ton of notes on him. I just said,

1332
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 6: wasn't the most cerebral. That's literally the.

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Speaker 4: Only note note you've got.

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00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, these those two weeks are dedicated to more in

1335
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 6: depth stuff that I left to the side.

1336
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't blame you.

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00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 7: Uh, Jake Slaughter is an interesting name if that's a

1338
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 7: good one, if you care about.

1339
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: Offensive line and for an offensive line to be named

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Speaker 2: Jake Slaughter.

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,479
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, Jake Slaughter I'm a fan of. Yeah,

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00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 6: I'm a fan of Jake Slaughter. I think, uh, you

1343
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 6: mentioned Logan Jones earlier than Pat Coogan. There are some

1344
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 6: fun centers in this class, but I think Jake Slaughter

1345
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 6: could be in the NFL for a long time.

1346
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: I like Parker Brailsford and Connor Lou a couple of

1347
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 4: those Iron Bowl guys.

1348
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Speaker 13: You know.

1349
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 5: Brailsford went to Alabama, Lou was out of Auburn.

1350
00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 7: Uh.

1351
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 4: But yes, a lot as a dude. Yeah.

1352
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 5: I have him as early third top one hundred player.

1353
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I put him in the second. I love Slaughter.

1354
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 6: James Brockermeyer too. I think it's awesome too. We'll be

1355
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 6: able to help out a quarterback at the next level

1356
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 6: with his pre snap diagnosing. I just hope the size

1357
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 6: doesn't really catch him at the next level. But I

1358
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 6: see a reality or James Brockermeyer finds a starting role.

1359
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 13: I do.

1360
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 7: I can see that Red Red Murdoch as a name

1361
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 7: sounds like like sound like a dude in a Western

1362
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 7: or something. You know what I'm saying, Like he is

1363
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 7: an Outlaws Red, he's the black guy, so Red me

1364
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 7: me some different ways from But uh that's a fascinating name,

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. I ain't got to say

1366
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 7: what Red mean on this show. Got to talk about that.

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 7: But uh yeah, man, some it's some names our Mason.

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: Did you know that? The art don't mean that is

1369
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: just it's just ours Mason.

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00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 6: Athan calijakmanis excuse me, the quarterback at Ruggers he's getting drafted.

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00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 6: I don't know how to pronounce it. I'm not Greek,

1372
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 6: but uh ahan caliak manis that's my best.

1373
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: There's a safety from Arizona State that his name is

1374
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 4: Miles Rowser, but he was a Shrine Bowl guy. They

1375
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 4: don't even call him Miles. They just call him ghost.

1376
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: So it's a ghost Rowser.

1377
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: Okay, that's his name. A couple of them there, all right,

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01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 4: that's going to do it for us here on the

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Speaker 4: Draft show. Hope you had some fun with us running

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Speaker 4: through some of the cool names and then also some

1381
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 4: of the late day three guys in this one hit

1382
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 4: a lot of prospects throughout the course of this show.

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Speaker 4: We will be back on Tuesday, and of course we're

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01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 4: within two weeks of the NFL Draft. Our NFL Draft

1385
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 4: coverage will kick off on Thursday night and we will

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01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 4: take you pick by pick all the way through.

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Speaker 6: Can I ask a quick quick question? Sure, on a

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 6: scale of one to ten, one being you're not confident,

1389
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 6: ten you're the most confident. Okay, How confident are you

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01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 6: that the Cowboys are picking at twelve and twenty?

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Speaker 4: So you're saying one would be their most likely trading

1392
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 4: out of those picks.

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01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 2: Correct.

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01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 7: I think they'll make him attempt to move before they move. Well, okay,

1395
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 7: but I don't know.

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01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say I don't think they're picking at twelve

1397
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 4: and twenty. I think they're gonna move one of the two. Yeah,

1398
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 4: if not both, my confidence will be a four.

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01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 8: I think the one.

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01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 9: As time has gone on, I think I'm starting to

1401
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 9: think that they might be moving.

1402
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 8: Back instead of up. Yeah, which could toil in case,

1403
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 8: I could see it at either one.

1404
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 9: It might be twelve, just because if they're sitting there

1405
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 9: like man, we're wiped and we feel like we need

1406
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 9: the bodies. If we're just trying to fix as many

1407
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 9: problems as we can and throw bodies at it because

1408
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 9: we like the depth.

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01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 4: Then I would think they move back instead of up. Yeah,

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01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 4: my confidence level would be a three.

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Speaker 2: It's fun. Should have lost some more games, man.

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Speaker 5: They tried, green Bay tried to, they tried real they tried.

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Speaker 4: All right. That does it for us for Fotch Somembardi,

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Speaker 4: Nick Harris, Tommy Yaris, Chris Beam in the back of

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Speaker 4: Kyle Yellman saying so long from the draft show. We

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Speaker 4: will see you on Tuesday.

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