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Speaker 1: of this offseason. They have this sweet quarterback from Washington State,

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Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. They've had a good transfer, they got

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Speaker 1: some good young players, they got a lot of wide

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Speaker 1: receivers coming back. Obviously Michigan as well. Quarterback situation was

432
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: a joke. They get Larry Ellison and Portnoy and all

433
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Speaker 1: these guys to give Underwood like fifteen million dollars. You know,

434
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Speaker 1: the aspirations of these two programs are gonna be to

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Speaker 1: compete for a playoff spot. And Sharon Moore played at

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma for Bob Stoops. Well, they play each other week two,

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Speaker 1: so they're like, we're gonna suspend you for two games,

438
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Speaker 1: but we're not gonna take away your opportunity to coach

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Speaker 1: against your alma mater, which I would imagine is a

440
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Speaker 1: pretty incredible experience. If you're Shillmore, We're gonna suspend you

441
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Speaker 1: weeks three and four against some random I think it's

442
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Speaker 1: New Mexico and Nebraska. Cool? Cool? What what are we listen?

443
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Speaker 1: I think this whole thing is stupid. I think even

444
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Speaker 1: having to suspend him to try to pretend like to

445
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Speaker 1: the NCAA, they still matter and we still take it seriously.

446
00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: Is all such like dumb stuff happened for optics, But

447
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: this is pretty laughable if you are going to do

448
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: something to just randomly suspend them. Week three and four

449
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: is one of the most insane, most college athletic things

450
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Speaker 1: you will ever see in your entire life. So just

451
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Speaker 1: just made me laugh. A couple other quick things. I've

452
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Speaker 1: seen a couple GMS talk about this. I saw a

453
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Speaker 1: spy tech talk about this on an offensive lineman that

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Speaker 1: they drafted, I think from Texas Tech, Caleb Rogers, and

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Speaker 1: I saw Vrabel in the Patriots. I don't know if

456
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Speaker 1: it was Vrabel specifically. It could have been Elliott wolferd

457
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Speaker 1: could have just been a article written about the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: One thing that they loved about Kyle Williams, the wide

459
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Speaker 1: receiver from Wazoo that they drafted, were that those guys

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Speaker 1: have the opportunity just like all these kids listen. I

461
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Speaker 1: buy and large. I think not playing in a Bowl game.

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Speaker 1: If you're a top I could pull like an arbitrary

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Speaker 1: number top one hundred pick, but like feel pretty confident

464
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Speaker 1: that you're going to be a first or definitely even

465
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Speaker 1: a second day pick, like a second or third rounder.

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Speaker 1: I got no issue if it's not a playoff game.

467
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Speaker 1: These bowl games are pretty meaningless. You get some of

468
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Speaker 1: these other teams playing some young guys trying to really

469
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Speaker 1: impress coaches. It is not worth the injury risk of

470
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Speaker 1: having someone snap your leg or just a natural football injury.

471
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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you go from being, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: the fortieth pick in the draft to now being a

473
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Speaker 1: sixth rounder because you got a torn labor. So I

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Speaker 1: am completely from a business standpoint behind any kid that goes,

475
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Speaker 1: you know what, the Samsung Rainbow sandal bull, I'm out.

476
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Speaker 1: I'm not playing no issue. But I also understand like

477
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Speaker 1: some of these kids that are like listen, it was

478
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Speaker 1: my last time playing in college. My teammates that are

479
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: still playing it means a lot to me. I just

480
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Speaker 1: liked playing the game of football, novel concept, given that

481
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at it, and I want to play

482
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Speaker 1: in this game, and it clearly means something to some

483
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Speaker 1: of these gms and coaches when guys do that. Now,

484
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Speaker 1: I've talked about this. Once you meet a player, right, like,

485
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Speaker 1: I've seen enough clips on Will Campbell. I can't imagine

486
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Speaker 1: once you start spending time around him, he's pretty easy

487
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: to like, pretty easy to go. That's the type guy

488
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Speaker 1: we want in our building. I've seen some clips of

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Speaker 1: Riley Leonard, the quarterback that the Colts drafted. You get

490
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Speaker 1: around certain people, whether they are a top ten talent

491
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Speaker 1: or whether they are a fifth, sixth, seventh round talent,

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Speaker 1: you leave that room going, I want that guy in

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Speaker 1: my building. I want that guy on my team. And

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes when and I was always taught before

495
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Speaker 1: you do the character right up given well, that means basically,

496
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Speaker 1: before you go around and get the information on the

497
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Speaker 1: kid right so you get to the pro liaison, you

498
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Speaker 1: talk to his coordinator, talk to those guys, and they

499
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Speaker 1: give you the information good or bad that can jade

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Speaker 1: the way you view a guy, because if you get

501
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: glowing information, you're gonna root for that guy when you

502
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: watch him play on tape vice versa. You get negative

503
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Speaker 1: information that he's an awful person, or even just stuff

504
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Speaker 1: like yeah, not the hardest worker. That can put you

505
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Speaker 1: down the wrong direction. And you got to be very

506
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Speaker 1: very careful doing that. And I just wonder, like I

507
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Speaker 1: get it, and I would like that who wouldn't if

508
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Speaker 1: I ran a team. It's like football means everything. This

509
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Speaker 1: guy that's I want guys on my team, where football

510
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Speaker 1: means everything too. Typically, the best teams have the most

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Speaker 1: talented players that really really care about football. I mean,

512
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Speaker 1: the Patriots built a twenty year dynasty off that. The

513
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Speaker 1: Chiefs have maintained a really high level post Tyreek Hill

514
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years with just kind of grinders.

515
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Speaker 1: They don't have the sexiest team, but they got some

516
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Speaker 1: bad you know what dudes, because football is a really

517
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: big deal in that building, and you're not allowed to

518
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Speaker 1: mispractice there. It's why everyone loves Georgia at What I've

519
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Speaker 1: been told by a couple of scouting buddies is like,

520
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: you don't really miss practice at Georgia because if you do,

521
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Speaker 1: guess what happens. The five star junior sophomore freshman takes

522
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Speaker 1: your spot. And if you miss a couple of practices,

523
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you miss a game. You might

524
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Speaker 1: never get that spot back because that next guy coming

525
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: up is Jalen Carter is Brock Bowers is Mike kel

526
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Speaker 1: Williams is Jalen Carter Is. I said his name twice,

527
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Speaker 1: but you get my point, Malachi Starks, insert any stud

528
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Speaker 1: player that's been drafted really high. Those are the backups. Still,

529
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Speaker 1: even in a day and age where it's not quite

530
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Speaker 1: as deep as it once was because of nil and

531
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Speaker 1: the transfer portal, they're two deep still better in every

532
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Speaker 1: two deep. Same thing at Ohio State. You know, Caleb

533
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Speaker 1: Downs like has to take practice really seriously even though

534
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Speaker 1: he's the best player on the team, because there's a

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Speaker 1: decent chance, if not last year, this year, they will

536
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Speaker 1: recruit another Caleb Downs. That's what they do, and that

537
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Speaker 1: maintains the high level of play. So I get like,

538
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: in that mindset, it's going to be fascinating to watch

539
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: and just kind of keep track if that is something

540
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: that actually impacts these guys having long careers, because listen,

541
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Speaker 1: at the highest level, like you either got the goods

542
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Speaker 1: or you don't. And so if they have the talent

543
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: and they have that mindset, then yeah, I would bet

544
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Speaker 1: on these kids. One thing I've found pretty interesting I

545
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: watched I'm a sucker for these youtubes. The Colts have

546
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: been doing this for years. The Eagles put out a

547
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: really good one. I'm sure a lot of these teams

548
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Speaker 1: do it where they basically give like a edited fifteen

549
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five YouTube version of the draft room. And

550
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Speaker 1: one thing's clear, like when you watch the Colts one,

551
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Speaker 1: they love Tyler Warren. If you told me they were

552
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Speaker 1: drafting fifth instead of fourteenth, they might have drafted Tyler

553
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Speaker 1: Warren there After the forty nine ers the first round,

554
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan said that when I woke up on Thursday morning,

555
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: Mikel Williams was the guy I won. So before you

556
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Speaker 1: even watch the draft play out, you would targeted, we

557
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: want Tyler Warren, we want Mikel Williams. Howie Roseman in

558
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Speaker 1: this clip on YouTube had been trying desperately for like

559
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Speaker 1: fifteen picks, and obviously he's the last guy drafting in

560
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Speaker 1: the first round to trade up by all accounts to

561
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Speaker 1: get Jahad Campbell the entire time, who most considered one

562
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Speaker 1: of the top seven, eight ten best players in this draft.

563
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: Just some medical question marks about multiple body parts, but

564
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles and doctor de Luca Good Doctor signed off,

565
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: so he's gonna be okay. I started thinking because I

566
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Speaker 1: watched his clip on Instagram from Eric da Costa. I

567
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: think this is an old clip, but he basically said

568
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: that he was telling a story back in like two

569
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Speaker 1: thousand and two that they had fallen in love with

570
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: trying to think who the player was. I had it

571
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Speaker 1: up and I didn't write down Napoleon Harris. Napoleon Harris

572
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: was a a linebacker from Northwestern, which sounds kind of crazy,

573
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: but back in the late nineties early two thousand Northwestern

574
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: was a really good football program. Obviously, they've had years

575
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: over Pat Fitzgerald over the last twenty years, but they

576
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: were producing some pretty high end NFL talent. And he's like,

577
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: we were just obsessed with him. We really really wanted

578
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Speaker 1: to draft him, and by all accounts, that looked like

579
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: he was gonna fall right into our laps in that

580
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: they were drafting pick twenty four and then it picked

581
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Speaker 1: twenty three. Al Davis drafts Napoleon Harris and he's like,

582
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: you could have heard a pin drop in our room.

583
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: We were devastated, and we ended up drafting kind of

584
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Speaker 1: a smaller, honestly lower rated guy in our room, safety

585
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: from Miami named Ed Reid. And his point to this

586
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: story was, no one really knows. If we knew, we

587
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: never would have been devastated. Hell Ederid would have gone

588
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: like in the top five of that draft, he never

589
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: would have been there. So this entire game of getting

590
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: locked in on a player I think can be pretty risky.

591
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: And you know, ultimately you take who you feel as

592
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Speaker 1: the best player. And I totally understand if you're drafting one,

593
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: two or three, knowing when the draft starts, this is

594
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: exactly who we want. But you hear a lot of

595
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: these gms say, hey, we just stack our board and

596
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: whoever falls to us falls to us. And I listen,

597
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman at this point in time, it's on a

598
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: legendary run of a couple of years. If you want

599
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: to take a star linebacker from Alabama and it turns

600
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: out he had denied everywhere. He basically had to give

601
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: up nothing to go from thirty two to thirty one.

602
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: But I do wonder if some of these teams when

603
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Speaker 1: the draft starts, like the Indianapolis Colts, like we gotta

604
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: have Tyler Warren if he falls to us one hundred

605
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: to pick, if that's the right mindset to take. You know,

606
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: and listen, it might work and it might not. But

607
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: listen to that Eric to Costas story. It just really crystallizes.

608
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Speaker 1: And I love the draft as much as anybody. I

609
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: watch college football from sun up till well after sundown

610
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: on Saturdays for months on end during the fall. I

611
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: love college football. The NFL essentially bought my house. But

612
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: I value college football very very closely, not quite to

613
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: the NFL because I know it's importance to what I do,

614
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: but I love everything about it. We have a long

615
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: history of knowing exactly what Eric Tacosta is saying. No

616
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: one has any fucking clue, and it's so easy to

617
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: play Monday morning quarterback a couple of years after like,

618
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: oh no, Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, they stink, That's not

619
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Speaker 1: what everyone was saying. I respect Chris Sims. I think

620
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: he's actually pretty good when it comes to talking about quarterbacks.

621
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: He was like, this guy's Aaron Rodgers. Look at that armstrng.

622
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, he's playing the Sisters of the Poor.

623
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Speaker 1: You know, we look at their schedule, but you just

624
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: watch them, especially in these pro day settings. And the

625
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: thing about the which is always really scary, is and

626
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: listen Tyler Warren and Mike Hail Williams and Johad Campbell.

627
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys played for the best of the best,

628
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: and all three of them might become Pro bowlers, and

629
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: they might not even be great examples of what I'm

630
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: even saying, because ultimately, none of these teams really maneuvered

631
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: forty nine er Stade the Colt State. I'm sure a

632
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: lot of these other teams look at. I think the

633
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: best example of this would be Steve Jobs in Jacksonville

634
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: James Gladstone, who traded up and traded a future one

635
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: for a guy that doesn't have a defined position, and

636
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: that sounds like a negative. Obviously it's because he's really

637
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: good at two positions. But that's a complicated situation in

638
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: the NFL, and I think no matter how much you

639
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: love a guy, there just is no guarantee. And I

640
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: think sometimes getting aggressive on draft night, especially when you're

641
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: trading future first round picks, has proven to be the

642
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: wrong decision.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that time again, Time for the mailback at John

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Speaker 1: middlecoff At John Middlecoff is the Instagram, fire in those

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Speaker 1: dms and get your questions answered on the show. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it, Okay, start with Nick, which player positions do

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Speaker 1: you think are the easiest to scout for NFL teams?

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Speaker 1: I know none are easy, but are there certain positions

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Speaker 1: that seem to have less misses than others? I bet

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Speaker 1: if you did a big study, I mean they there

656
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Speaker 1: might be a couple positions that have, like over the

657
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Speaker 1: course of twenty years, a higher hit rate. I think

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing during the Combine Chris Simms, who was

659
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Speaker 1: doing the live show with Florio at the Combine. Every

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Speaker 1: GM they had on, he'd ask the toughest positions to scout,

661
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Speaker 1: and I think universally they all answered defensive back, Nation

662
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Speaker 1: of safety, and corner, and most landed on safety and

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Speaker 1: I agreed. I always thought that was a really hard

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Speaker 1: position too. You know, some guys are pretty obvious, they're

665
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: really good players. But for the most part, I mean,

666
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Speaker 1: once you get past like the top guy, it's I mean,

667
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Speaker 1: it's it's can be very very difficult. And you know,

668
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: not just in the eye of the beholder, but so

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Speaker 1: many teams look for different things, and you know, now

670
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: the game has become such a space game. I always

671
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: thought guard in an interior offensive lineman was relatively easy

672
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Speaker 1: in the sense of like you could see that translating,

673
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Speaker 1: especially if they're playing at a big school. They have

674
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Speaker 1: the physical requirements, especially now so many teams running the

675
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: zone scheme. If you're good enough athlete, obviously, if I

676
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: get to know you, you know, the person matters a lot,

677
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Speaker 1: like you kind of got to be a tough guy.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna find many guards and centers who aren't

679
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Speaker 1: just kind of badasses, you know. Now, there's a big

680
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: difference between being like an All pro and like a

681
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: you know, a pro Bowl level guy just a solid starter.

682
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: But I think most of them, from an intangible standpoint,

683
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Speaker 1: toughness is pretty highly regarded for that individual. I always

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00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: found like running back relatively easy position to be like, yeah,

685
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Speaker 1: this guy can play right, this guy's gonna be able

686
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Speaker 1: to play in the NFL running back, I think receiver

687
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Speaker 1: because there's so many of them. It's by far the

688
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: most amount of guys at any position. I think when

689
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Speaker 1: you have such scheme specific stuff, you know, teams that

690
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: run like a three to four and need a five

691
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: technique or a big nose tackle like that there are

692
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Speaker 1: only so many guys in a draft that fit some

693
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Speaker 1: of your measurable criterias, so you kind of know exactly

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Speaker 1: what you're looking for in kind of let's say you

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Speaker 1: have a group of six or seven guys that are draftable.

696
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: There can be a big gap between the top two.

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00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: But when you're just looking generically, like we need a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, Like there's a million different flavors, so it's

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Speaker 1: like which one do you like the most? And you

700
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: know in a draft you got everything from like vanilla

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Speaker 1: to Rocky Road to mint chocolate chip. You know, I

702
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: mean you got speed guys, you got little guys, you

703
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Speaker 1: got guys that can play slot, you got only outside guys.

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Speaker 1: You got contest to catch you guys. You've got guys

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Speaker 1: that can break tackles. You've got guys that aren't that

706
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Speaker 1: smart but physical freaks. You got physical freaks but average hands,

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Speaker 1: which you know, can be hard to try to kind

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Speaker 1: of narrow it down, but I think it helps a

709
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Speaker 1: lot when teams like the longer you've been somewhere, right,

710
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Speaker 1: like if you went to the Rams facility or the

711
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Niners facility, like they got pretty specific things because the

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Speaker 1: coach and GM have been there for seven eight nine years.

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Speaker 1: Right when you have turnover, you kind of freelance sometimes,

714
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Speaker 1: you know, like Andy Reid's got a pretty good idea

715
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Speaker 1: of like things. He likes to look for the Harbob Brothers.

716
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Speaker 1: But sometimes you get like, you know, a new coach

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Speaker 1: you're kind of based like Ben Johnson, who's the apple

718
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Speaker 1: of everyone's eye, rightfully so, but he's kind of basing

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Speaker 1: it on his own philosophies that he's probably had for

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Speaker 1: a decade and then what really got him hired, right

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Speaker 1: Like it's I don't think it's random that they just

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Speaker 1: took the tight end to pick ten. Well, he just

723
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Speaker 1: had a ton of successful toport it. If he had

724
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Speaker 1: been playing somewhere else and it was a different position,

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Speaker 1: maybe he would think differently. So we're all kind of

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Speaker 1: a product of our environment when we get a new opportunity,

727
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Speaker 1: and I think over the course of a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: he might change some of his you know, big picture

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Speaker 1: of philosophical beliefs. So like you said, I think it's

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Speaker 1: really getting in a good idea about you know, a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. They're gonna be all sorts of personalities. Right

732
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: when you meet guards and centers. Like most defensive tackles,

733
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Speaker 1: they're all gonna be within the same realm of like

734
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Speaker 1: wiring of the good players. The Bills signed Joey Bosa

735
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Speaker 1: in free agency and dedicated six of their nine draft

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Speaker 1: picks to defense, despite lots of question marks about the

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Speaker 1: underwhelming offensive, underwhelming wide receiver room. Do you think the

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Speaker 1: Bills are trying to replicate the twenty three and twenty

739
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Speaker 1: four Chiefs. Well, they did draft Kean Coleman last year

740
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Speaker 1: really high. They've invested two years ago into a tight

741
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Speaker 1: So their last two first round picks, I guess was

742
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Speaker 1: Coleman technically a second round pick? I forget because I

743
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Speaker 1: remember them trading back with the Chiefs and then they

744
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Speaker 1: trade back again. Maybe Coleman was the second to last

745
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Speaker 1: pick in the first round. No, I'm kind of confused.

746
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Speaker 1: But they definitely drafted Kinkaid two years ago in the

747
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Speaker 1: first round, so they've invested high picks. They still have

748
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Speaker 1: James Cook, they had the highest paid quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've invested a lot into their offense and defensively, Like,

750
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Speaker 1: let's face it, I know they beat the Ravens, but

751
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Speaker 1: watching that game, it was like I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they're gonna pull this off, and the only reason they

753
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Speaker 1: did because Bart Andrews dropped some passes like that. That

754
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: defense felt a little overwhelmed and I felt small. If

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Speaker 1: I understand Derek Henry's enormous, but he made them feel

756
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Speaker 1: like little people. So I think investing in that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball I got no issue with. I ever

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Speaker 1: have a problem with investing in defensive pieces. Part of

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00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: also paying for a quarterback is like you know, Josh,

760
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: like Mahomes and like Brady Forever's like elevate and he can.

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Speaker 1: It took me a while to articulate my point, but

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Speaker 1: I ran across a random YouTube video and the dude

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00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: hit on it a good point. I think we have

764
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Speaker 1: reached a point where we have our over valued head

765
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: coaches that call plays. The hotshot coordinators always pop up

766
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Speaker 1: every year, and look at them now, it's all failing.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel Canalis and I'm willing to bet Ben Johnson

768
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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen fail as we saw Adam Gase. It just

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Speaker 1: seems like we forget how this usually goes. The only

770
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Speaker 1: ones who are good are McVay and Shanahan, and I

771
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Speaker 1: think we are sleeping on the CEO headboard archetype. Some

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Speaker 1: of the biggest winners Belichick, who had Josh handling the offense,

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Speaker 1: Hardbaugh has been balling in Washington, and Tomlin has never

774
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Speaker 1: had a losing season, and my beloved Birds set the

775
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: culture and we won the Super Bowl. I know you

776
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: love the mob shows, so Silvio Dante said in The

777
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: Sopranos once some people are better at being the number two.

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00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: Look at Kingsbury and Fangio. Once hot shot coordinators got

779
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 1: the head coaching jobs and it failed, and they got

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00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: to the one side of the ball that they both

781
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: ended up representing the NFC in the title game. Part

782
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Speaker 1: of to get noticed typically as a head coach right

783
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: to get the opportunity. For most part, if we just

784
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Speaker 1: go around the league, it's to be really good as

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Speaker 1: a coordinator. Doesn't always mean that. But Belichick became a

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Speaker 1: head coach in Cleveland and then got another shot in

787
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Speaker 1: New England because he was known as the greatest defensive

788
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Speaker 1: coordinator of all time. Now you can be Andy Reid,

789
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Speaker 1: who had never been an NFL coordinator in the Eagles

790
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: doot a little outside the box. But when you just

791
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: look at most of the especially coaches under fifty had

792
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: been a coordinator, right, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Mike McDonald,

793
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Speaker 1: Jonathan gannon if I just started going across the country. Now,

794
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: some of these guys didn't necessarily call play. Some of

795
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: them did. But I do agree that just because you

796
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: are a great play caller does not mean you're gonna

797
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: be a great head coach.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: You could be the best chef in the state of California,

800
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Speaker 1: or in Arizona, or in Nevada, or the best chef

801
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: in the West Coast, does not mean you can run

802
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: a good restaurant. They're completely different skill sets. We were

803
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Speaker 1: out to dinner on Sunday night, first time in a

804
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: long time, and it was clear like they had a

805
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: bunch of right, just waiters and people clearing tables, and

806
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: then the dude like wearing slacks and like a button up.

807
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: That guy's probably the owner and he's trying to help.

808
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Speaker 1: Can that guy was like this kind of nicer Mexican restaurant.

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Speaker 1: Can that guy make an enchilada? I don't know, but

810
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Speaker 1: his restaurant's pretty depressive, pretty good food, right, Maybe you

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Speaker 1: hired the right chef. The ambiance in the place is

812
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Speaker 1: pretty good, good cocktails. Like it was, like, he's got

813
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Speaker 1: a lot going for it is gonna work or fail.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Small percent restaurants last. The last restaurant

815
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Speaker 1: that was in that spot clearly went out of business,

816
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: right because they got a new one in there. And

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Speaker 1: I've only lived here in this area for a couple

818
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Speaker 1: of years, not even, and it's already churned out a spot.

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Speaker 1: So god speed to him. But his skill set as

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Speaker 1: the guy that owns the restaurant, I'm assuming, but let's

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Speaker 1: just in this example has to be a lot different

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Speaker 1: than the guy cooking all the food. Now does it

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Speaker 1: help if you can run the restaurant and cook the

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Speaker 1: food if you have to. One of Belichick's greatest strengths

825
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: was he coached any position. He coached the kickers, he

826
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Speaker 1: coached the DB's, he coached the offensive lineman. He just

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Speaker 1: knew everything. But you don't have to know that, right,

828
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Speaker 1: Like could Andy Reid coach every position at this point

829
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Speaker 1: in time? He could probably give a pretty good effort

830
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: to most positions on defense. But is he a much

831
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Speaker 1: better coach coaching the offense? Of course that's his baby.

832
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Speaker 1: Same thing with Kyle Shanahan. Sean McVay right now, those

833
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: guys are much younger. But like, could Sean mcvagh if

834
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Speaker 1: he had to for a month coach the defensive alignment?

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00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: He could, right, I'm sure he could. Would he be

836
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Speaker 1: the best defensive line coach in the league. Probably not.

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Speaker 1: Could he be a top ten coach in the league,

838
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: maybe if you just start doing that full time, But

839
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Speaker 1: he can be a great head coach. And if I

840
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: told you, he doesn't know anything about defensive line play.

841
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: So I think it's it's very difficult to project anybody.

842
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: You see this all the time. Like I saw a

843
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: headline recently about a CEO that just got fired because

844
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: it was Cole's. The Cole ceo had been in the

845
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: job for like less than six months and was caught

846
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: basically doing some business i think with like his lover

847
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Speaker 1: or something, and it was clearly like some shady shit

848
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: going on, And it's like, you never know i'd give you,

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Speaker 1: I give you power. I was reading an article today

850
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Speaker 1: by Albert Breer that Joe Shane was given the private

851
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: jet by ownership to go see quarterbacks during the fall, right,

852
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: Because as a GM's it's harder to get on the road,

853
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: especially home games, you're not out. He wanted to see

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Speaker 1: all the top quarterbacks, so he saw him all from

855
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Speaker 1: Shador to even guys that came back, Carson Beck, Drew Aller,

856
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart, quinn Ewers. Will Howard saw him all flew

857
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: around and said he felt very uncomfortable, you know, going

858
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: to Old Miss because his daughter went there, and he

859
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: didn't want the organization to think like, I'm just going

860
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: down to Old Miss for like three days to hang

861
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: out with my daughter. I'm going there to work. He's like,

862
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: looking back, and we ended up taking Jackson Dart. I

863
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: could have gone there multiple times and they would have

864
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: never said anything. So but that's something you have to

865
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: think about. Some people don't think about that at all.

866
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: Some people get in position of power and just are

867
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: either overwhelmed or start you know how many coaches like

868
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: the Belichick guys start being just completely different humans than

869
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: they were as position coaches and coordinators. So it's no

870
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: one has any clue. Ben Johnson could be the next

871
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh, or he could be the next Joe Judge.

872
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: If you said, John you got to put five thousand dollars,

873
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: will Ben Johnson be a star or will he fail.

874
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: I would put on fail like I would with Ben Johnson,

875
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: no different than Liam Cohen, no different than any first

876
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: time head coach, because the history and the statistics would

877
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: tell us that whether even if you're a CEO guy,

878
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: most of them are gonna fail. Robert sla was a

879
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: CEO head coach failed. So I don't know. I don't

880
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: think any of these we know about any of these guys,

881
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: And use the Mike McDaniel example. Mike Daniel didn't call plays,

882
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: Kyle did. Brian Callahan, who everyone likes, Brian Callahan didn't

883
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: call plays. Zach Taylor did. Fascinating topic. I know you're

884
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: more of an NFL guy, but what are your thoughts

885
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: on Dan Lanning and the Ducks. I'm a lifelong Duck

886
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: fan and never remember a coach like Lanning who reloads

887
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Oregon's roster every year other than tries to build up

888
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: one good team every three to four. Landing's been a

889
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: head coach for three years and he already has produced

890
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: the first and second most Ducks drafted in program history

891
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: these past two drafts ten ducks this year and eight

892
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: and twenty four. What are your thoughts on him? In

893
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: the projection of the program. I would say he's clearly

894
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: a stud. I heard more NFL gms and I watch

895
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: I don't know minimum half the league's press conferences on

896
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday night at the draft. Them mentioned from

897
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh to Adam Peters. I mean teams that drafted

898
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: Oregon guys sing this guy's praises. They love him. And

899
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's random that Alabama, once Saban retired,

900
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: went right after him. He said, no, I think he's

901
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: a stud. Now, you know, to win a national championship,

902
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: it's obviously hard this year the way they drew Ohio

903
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: State tough draw as a one eight seed. But he's

904
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: a badass, I mean, clearly. I like him a lot.

905
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to be I would

906
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: say the total package, you know, Chip revolutionized the offense. Obviously,

907
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: Mario recruited at just an incredible level. Pre nil oh

908
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: it was like the you know, Ducks nil So it's like, hey,

909
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: we take area, but Mario can recruit and Landing feels

910
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: like the combination of them both. So I think my

911
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: buddy guy who works at Big ten Network, we used

912
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: to do a pot San Francisco nine forty nine or

913
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: podcast together for a long time. He got me started

914
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: in radio. He does Big ten games, and he did

915
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: the Big ten Spring Oregon game. And Dante Moore, the

916
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: quarterback who was the five star that went to play

917
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: at UCLA for Chip and then Chip left and he

918
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: transferred up there. That it basically came down to UCLA

919
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 1: and Oregon. Now they got him, he's gonna be the starter.

920
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: Guy was telling me they fucking love that guy, and

921
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of passes he major. I guess

922
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: it's a spring game, but he's a big time talent,

923
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: so I listen. I think the goal of your Oregon

924
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: is like, how do we become how do we take

925
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: that next step and become Oregon or Georgia in ohiose

926
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: state right, because we're close. We're like you could argue

927
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: right now with Harball leaving some question marks with Michigan

928
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: Saban leaving question marks with Bama. I think the bar

929
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: right now is like Georgia Ohio State. Right, They've won

930
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: a bunch of national championships. Ohio State won it this year,

931
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: Georgia won a couple producing all these NFL guys. I

932
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: think Texas is coming hard right with the nil and

933
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: Sark and how good that team is. They're probably right

934
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: butting into that, and I think Oregon's right behind them,

935
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: like how do we take that next step? Like Texas, Like,

936
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: how do we get to the national championship game? How

937
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: do we win a national championship? It's hard, but I

938
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: think that's they're right there. I'd be pretty fired up.

939
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, i'd be pretty fired up if I was

940
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: an Oregon fan, Bears fan, and love the additions made

941
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: this offseason. I'm a huge believer in Kleb. But my

942
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: question is how soon into the season do you think

943
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: we could see the improvement right away? Middle end of

944
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: the season. Well, there's gonna be a ton of pressure

945
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: on them right away, so you know, the intensity of

946
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: the hype of this team is going to be stupid now.

947
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: Good thing for you guys, same thing for you know,

948
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: the Lions. There's pressure, but it's like they're not like

949
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys or the Eagles in the sense of the

950
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: way they're covered. So it's they're loaded and they're expected

951
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs now, but the coverage of them

952
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: is a little different. The pressure on Jordan Love and

953
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: the pressure on JJ McCarthy. So you got a lot

954
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: of teams with pressure in your division, but the intensity

955
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: of the Bears, And rightfully so, I think they're pretty good.

956
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: They had an incredible offseason. I mean they've just added

957
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: sweet players at key positions, especially offensive line guards and centers.

958
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: I mean they got two brand new guards in the center.

959
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: They're good. So I think the expectation would be to

960
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: make a wildcard, and to make a wildcard they need

961
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: capab Williams to play well. So to what those stats are? Like,

962
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: I is that twenty eight touchdowns and ten picks? Is

963
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: that thirty five touchdowns and eleven picks? I don't know

964
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: what the stats are, but I think you'll be able

965
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: to tell he is getting rid of the ball fast?

966
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: Is that playmaking ability? Mixed in with that? Is do

967
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: they have a top I don't know ten ish offense?

968
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: Are they one of the best offenses in the league?

969
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Not like top five, but clearly a top tennish scoring

970
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: offense by mid season? Well? Just yeah, it's good question.

971
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know how to like answer that, but

972
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: I think you kind of I think some things in

973
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: life you kind of know when you see it. Now,

974
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: once we get to that point, is like is this

975
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: guy a pro bowler or just like really good starter.

976
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: We got something here. I think you'll have a pretty

977
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: good idea by mid season. It's like, Okay, we're gonna

978
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: be okay, or we got a problem, and I would

979
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: lean you're gonna be okay. From Australia watch YouTube videos.

980
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: Question for the back. I've heard you and Colin multiple

981
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: times talk about the Dolphins and how there's a chance

982
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be one of the worst teams in the NFL.

983
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm a to a fan and will ride with him

984
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 1: as my quarterback. But are your judgments on how poorly

985
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins will go strictly due to his play, injuries

986
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: or just the organizations organizations direction for the future and

987
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: their coaching staff, players, et cetera. I like an outside perspective.

988
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: Why'd say obviously his status as a player is always

989
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: in question given that a concussion. Let's just say, I mean, god,

990
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm not no one's rooting for this, no one wants

991
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: to see this. But if he does get a concussion,

992
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: it would be the loudest conversation of any definitely big

993
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: name player of like, he can't play anymore, and whether

994
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: that's fair or not. And I thought last year was

995
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: so egregious, like you can never play against like guys,

996
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: it's his decision, not yours. Now the league would step in.

997
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: They didn't. Maybe concussions. You know, it's weird, like obviously

998
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: they're doing the right things, but like I honestly thought

999
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,439
Speaker 1: they would step in and be like, you're not playing

1000
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. They didn't. Maybe there's legalities there.

1001
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: They didn't want to, you know, step in. But if

1002
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: he goes down, we saw the drop off and he

1003
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 1: signed Zach Wilson this year, which I don't know, man,

1004
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: I can't get behind that. I would say too. I mean,

1005
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: the Tyreek situation feels like a ticking time bomb. Jalen

1006
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: Ramsey's surely to be traded. They've just lost a lot

1007
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: of players over the last couple of years because of

1008
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: free agency. I just think they're talent on their team,

1009
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: especially relative to their division. You know, the Bills own them,

1010
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots are surely going to be better, and the

1011
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: Jets just feel like a little more stable now that

1012
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: the Rogers saw a Joe Douglas kind of era has passed.

1013
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: So I just think this is gonna be a weird

1014
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: And then if they start slow. Well, I guess we'll

1015
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: find out the you know, the schedules for all these teams,

1016
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: see who they play early. But like that's that's got

1017
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: one of those like god, the Dolphins are two and five,

1018
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: is they're allowed? Like it's Mike McDaniel gonna be fired, which,

1019
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: in fairness, I don't think Bill Walsh would lead this

1020
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: team to eleven or twelve wins. But it's already kind

1021
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: of weird, you know, the way the season ended last

1022
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: year of people showing up late in him admitting that

1023
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a lot of weird shit going on.

1024
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: There A question about the recent discussion about quarterbacks with

1025
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 1: big arms. Is it something you can quantify or do

1026
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: you just know it when you see it? Also, can

1027
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback with an average arm hit the gym and

1028
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: get bigger arm or is it an unchangeable characteristic. I

1029
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: do think that the combine had I don't think I

1030
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: know they have a metric in that can quantify how

1031
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: many miles an hour you're throwing. And I think, you know,

1032
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, there's some quarterbacks over the last fifteen years

1033
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: that have some of the stronger arms, but less and

1034
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: less of these quarterbacks are now throwing, so that data

1035
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: is gonna be weird because none of these guys throw

1036
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: in the offseason. I'd have to text a buddy in

1037
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: the league to ask if there is data from the

1038
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: college teams or that the league has based on their

1039
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: arm strength and games. I would imagine at this point

1040
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: there is, but don't quote me on that. I do

1041
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: think when you've just been like, let's say a college

1042
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: scouting director and I've been in the league for twenty years,

1043
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: I got a pretty good idea where your arm stacks

1044
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: against the guys in the last ten years, right, and

1045
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: the top guys from Josh Allen to Caleb to Jaden

1046
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: Daniels to you name it, Trevor Lawrence. I can kind

1047
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: of get a feel for where you fall. And then

1048
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: I can look at some of the guys that we

1049
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: thought were gonna be good that weren't. Then some random

1050
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: guys like a rock party, did we like, did we

1051
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: think he has an average arm? You're around football long

1052
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: enough you kind of know it when you see it,

1053
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: and you can kind of feel it. Now it's much easier.

1054
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: It's why people like when you run forties, because like,

1055
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: I think this guy's fast, and then he runs a

1056
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: four to four eight. Like, guy, he's pretty fast, but

1057
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: there's a big deal. Like I think this guy's fast,

1058
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: and then he runs a four to three too, You're like, damn.

1059
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know how fast this guy is.

1060
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: Then he runs a four to six. So I think

1061
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: arm strength is one of those things where it's like

1062
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: you kind of know, right, Drew Brees didn't have the

1063
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: biggest arm, Alex Smith didn't have the biggest arm. You watch.

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00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: I think Lamar's arm definitely feels a little stronger than

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00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: I thought it was. In college, you knew Josh and

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00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Herbert had big arms. I think there is

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00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: a kind of like a baseline of what you have

1068
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: to have. You know, guys like Purty, they just can't

1069
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: do things at the top. Guys you know, it's weird,

1070
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts can throw a great deep ball, but

1071
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: like his drive throws I would say aren't as strong

1072
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: as you would think based on his deep ball. So

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00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: every quarterback is a little bit different. I always thought

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00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: quarterback like Jared Goff, I saw it. I walked right

1075
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: by Jared Goff in the Super Bowl. He's huge, right,

1076
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: but it's like he doesn't like Kyler Murray has a

1077
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: way stronger arm, and he's got Kyler Murray by seven inches.

1078
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: So sometimes Michael Vick was not the biggest guy, but

1079
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 1: the flick of the wrist, it was like this guy's

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00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: throwing babies. So I don't know, Hey, genius. Some of

1081
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: the best running backs of all time were like five

1082
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: to nine, and genty was undoubtedly a great talent any year.

1083
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: No one's arguing with you. My argument on genty is

1084
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: not that he's a good player. Of course, Jince, he's

1085
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: a good player. Do you watch him play? You go

1086
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: to his YouTube page. He's fucking awesome. I just think

1087
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: drafting running backs really, really high is a pretty risky proposition.

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00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: That's all I said. Did I would take offensive lineman

1089
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: over running back, especially in a draft where I can

1090
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: get a starting running back later in the draft. That's

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00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: my point. And he's five eight. It's like, well, Barry Sanders,

1092
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm not comparing anyone to Barry Sanders. What Emmitt Smith,

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00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: that's who you're comparing him to. It's like, well, cam

1094
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: Ward plays like Patrick Mahomes, a little bit of Marino

1095
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: in LA. I mean, that's what we're gonna do. I

1096
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: saw Howie made a comment he's like the first ten

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00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: picks of the draft. Every time we looked up their

1098
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: comparison was like Abdul Carter next to Lawrence Taylor meets

1099
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons, cam Ward little bit of Mahomes meets Alway,

1100
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, Dion meets Justin Jefferson meets Darrell Reeves. It's like, guys,

1101
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: that's not the way this works. I mean, yeah, it's like,

1102
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: what are we doing? But it's always like Emmitt's next

1103
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: to Emitt Smith. Well, if he's the next Barry Sanders,

1104
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: the Titan should have taken him one. Why is everybody

1105
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: assuming Arch Manning will declare it will only be his

1106
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: first year starting And I don't think the Manning family

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01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: wants him to rush. Eli and Peyton both started three

1108
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: years in college and money isn't an issue. I can

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01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: see Arch staying in school two or three years. Do

1110
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: you know what's funny with Arch Manning? And you just

1111
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: did what we all do. You brought up Peyton and Eli.

1112
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: Peyton and Eli are is uncles, not his father. Now,

1113
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they don't have a huge influence

1114
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: and are obviously very close with Cooper. But I think

1115
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: sometimes we talk like Arch like he's Peyton or Eli's like, no,

1116
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: he's Cooper's you know, now I'm with you, like I

1117
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: don't think anyone knows like I would if you're a

1118
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: betting man. He's more likely to be multiple year starter

1119
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: at Texas than a one year starter. But let's say

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Speaker 1: they win the whole thing. He wins the heisman. Who knows,

1121
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: no one is any clue. I think the hype machine

1122
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: on Arch. I think it's one of the craziest. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Caleb was starting, Trevor Lawrence was starting. This guy hasn't

1124
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 1: even been a starter. Now he's played, he had to

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01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: start some games because of yours injury. But we talk

1126
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: about this guy like he's a three year starter. I

1127
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: feel like he's unfair. He's twenty twenty one years old

1128
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: rooting for him. But man, do you feel that the

1129
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: safety position has really decreased in importance over the past

1130
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: fifteen years? Think how big of stars guys like Etterie, Troy, Paulamalou,

1131
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: John Lynch, Brian Dwkins were. Now it seems as if

1132
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: there are no stars at that position. I think one

1133
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 1: thing that all those had in common. You know, Ed

1134
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: was a hybrid, but you could even go to the

1135
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: LB teams with Cam Chancellor and Earl Thomas.

1136
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 3: Is.

1137
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: They were the biggest hitters in the league, so when

1138
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: you went across the middle, those guys were involved in

1139
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: huge tackles.

1140
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: You know.

1141
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: One of this viral video every once in a while

1142
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: that creeps into my feed is to Kalo Spikes saying

1143
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: that Brian Dawkins either told him before the game or

1144
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: in the huddle that said I plan on taking that

1145
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: man's soul speaking about the wide receiver when he ran

1146
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: a go route and too. Kalo Spikes one of the

1147
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: all time badasses who actually talked to it the at

1148
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and he still looks like he could

1149
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: play that. Those guys would annihilate you. I mean, Brian

1150
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: Dawkins nickname was Weapon X. John Lynch got into the

1151
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame on literally forcing other dudes to go

1152
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: to the blue tent, right. I mean, Ed Reid was

1153
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: just kind of had a little d onto his game,

1154
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: made some incredible plays on the ball. But when I

1155
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: think Troy, I think the guy like flying over the

1156
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: pile in that version of like the tush push rights

1157
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: legendary play I think against the Bengals where he flies

1158
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: over the on the goal line. So I think part

1159
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: of it is like they don't hit as much. That

1160
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: used to be a huge sexy part of that position.

1161
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: I do think that these guys that are still playing

1162
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: in the league if you allowed hitting, would be bigger stars.

1163
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: But I would, just thinking about it right now, would

1164
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: imagine that that's a reason. Is there a chance that

1165
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: using Travis Hunter as a two way player could cause

1166
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: resentment and division in the Jags locker room? Particularly on defense?

1167
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: The Jags starting corner and Nickel, Tyson Campbell, Jerry and

1168
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: Jones and Jordan Lewis are second, third, and third round picks,

1169
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: so not bad. Imagine you're one of those guys or

1170
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: the other dbs further down the depth chart. You're in

1171
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: all the dB meetings for a week, but then the

1172
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: big passing down situation, Travis Hunter comes in and takes

1173
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: your spot because the Jags want to justify the trade. Well,

1174
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It will only cause resentment, like anything

1175
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: in life, if you're not good enough. If he is

1176
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: better than those guys, like early on, there's a natural

1177
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: young people egos. If it goes, this guy's better than me,

1178
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: what are you gonna say? But if it goes we're

1179
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: not as good when he comes in because this is impossible,

1180
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: then yeah, people would be bad. I had someone in

1181
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: the league. Their idea was like what they could see

1182
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: him being a full time wide receiver and basically just

1183
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: come in on third and lungs on third and lungs

1184
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 1: when they just kind of, you know, a specific we're

1185
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: running like a manned man, some sort of concept in

1186
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: the defensive scheme in that package, and he just comes

1187
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: and they just flex him out wide and whoever bumps

1188
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: into nickel and someone comes out the game. I think

1189
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: resentment is natural in most of these situations. Think how

1190
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: many GMS had to call an agent or call a

1191
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: player after the draft. It's like, we don't even know

1192
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: if this guy can play or not, but like I

1193
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: have to call my star receiver because we drafted to

1194
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: do in the second round. I'm sure it happens. I

1195
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: can't imagine it actually happens a lot. And uh. I

1196
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: heard Chris Ballard say that he's like I get so

1197
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: tired of these agents call me like after Friday of

1198
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: the draft, Like what does that mean for my player,

1199
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: What do you mean? What does it mean? Means? Nothing

1200
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: like seeing a training camp, like we hope he's still

1201
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: the starter, but like, this is the NFL, this is competitive,

1202
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: so it's like some competitive energy is good. I do

1203
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: think there's a balance. And I hear you because I

1204
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: don't care what you do in life. If you are

1205
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: working in a situation where you go like, I don't

1206
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: think there's any gap, Like I'm just as good and

1207
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm putting in more time, that can get weird. So

1208
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: it I do think it's fair. It's a slippery slope.

1209
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: But players are also not dumb that they see what

1210
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: you invested, so they get it initially. But we talked

1211
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: about this one, the Shador Sanders thing. At the end

1212
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: of the day, you're gonna just have training camp and

1213
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: the pads are kind of come on and plays are

1214
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: gonna be called, just against your own team. Remember, before

1215
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: you start game planning against opponents and everything, you practice

1216
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: against your own team in pads for multiple weeks, so

1217
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: you get a pretty good feel for your your room.

1218
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: Like if you're a guard, like the other guards, the

1219
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: other centers, if you're a dB, the other corners, the

1220
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: other safeties, and the receivers. Like, after a couple of weeks,

1221
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: you got a pretty good idea who can play who

1222
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: can't play, at least based on camp. Right, So it

1223
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: does become a meritocracy pretty fast in these guys' minds

1224
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: of like this guy can't play. How often do you

1225
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: hear veteran players go yeah, and you know, like the weekend,

1226
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: we're in trouble. Now, I'm not saying that's gonna happen

1227
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: with Travis Hunter, but it is gonna be unlike anything else.

1228
01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: Right when the uh, the Panthers drafted the Arizona wide

1229
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: receiver McMillan, he's just gonna play wide receiver. He just

1230
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: goes to the wide receiver room. So even if he struggling,

1231
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: it's like always gonna keep working with him. But it's like, well,

1232
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 1: what if you like the offense you're going It's it

1233
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: says a lot. It's gonna be very very interesting. If

1234
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: I am a betting man, I have no clue how

1235
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna play out. None. You could give me five scenarios,

1236
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: and I believe you. He's ends up as a wide receiver,

1237
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: only he just ends up as a corner. Only he

1238
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: tries to play wide receiver and a little bit of

1239
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 1: corner and it's just too weird. Doesn't work. He tries

1240
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: to play wide receiver and corner only turns out he's

1241
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: actually making more plays on defense. So they you know,

1242
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: there are a million different avenues, maybe not a million,

1243
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: but there's like ten different routes this thing could take.

1244
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: And like you said, no one's even talking about, like

1245
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: what about the team. They actually have some good players

1246
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: on the squad and like you said, some guys that

1247
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 1: were drafted relatively high. I like the good dB depth

1248
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: chart for the Jags. That's that's why I lean on

1249
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: you guys. My question is this big Seahawks fan is

1250
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: regarding Jalen Milroe. I'd like to compare his college stats

1251
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: from his last year to Lamar Jackson and his last

1252
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: year at Louisville, another player most NFL executives said might

1253
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: not make it at the next level. Milroe last season

1254
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: was sixty four percent sixteen pass touchdowns, eleven interceptions, and

1255
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: twenty rushing touchdowns. Lamar last season was sixty percent, twenty

1256
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: seven passing touchdowns, ten interceptions, and eighteen rushing touchdowns. These

1257
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,520
Speaker 1: numbers seem very comparable to me and all of Milroe's

1258
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: teammates and coaches swear by his work ethic. One in

1259
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: the last in his desire to get better, he is

1260
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: about to sit behind another guy who clearly knows how

1261
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: to get better year to year. Do you think the

1262
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: Hawks Mike get the steel of the draft? It's kind

1263
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: of crazy, right, I think Jalen Milroe was viewed as

1264
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: failure would be strong, but definitely like a bumpy Rocky season.

1265
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: And Lamar, remember, Lamar is pretty controversial too. I was wrong.

1266
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: I thought that he was pretty inaccurate. And he's he

1267
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: is a great example of someone who has improved dramatically

1268
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now here's what they did, and this

1269
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,839
Speaker 1: is where it makes it unique. Where was Mike McDonald.

1270
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 1: He was there, So it's like Mike McDonald, let me

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Speaker 1: pull up his uh ohld wiki. Lamar gets drafted. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's there the entire Lamar time except for

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Speaker 1: one year when he leaves in twenty one. But he

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Speaker 1: saw from the linebacker coach from eighteen to twenty so

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Speaker 1: we saw not only them draft him, but insert him

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Speaker 1: as the quarterback and change the offense overnight from Flacco

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Speaker 1: to him. He saw him in practice as the scout

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Speaker 1: team quarterback early on, and then he went against him

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Speaker 1: for years when the Ones played the Ones. So I

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Speaker 1: think his idea seeing this player is more unique than

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Speaker 1: most coaches who have never been around Lamar Jackson, because

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Speaker 1: just coaching against Lamar if you're another team, is different

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Speaker 1: than every day seeing around him. Because to me, when

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Speaker 1: I think about Lamar Is and knowing a buddy, a

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Speaker 1: couple actually guys with the Ravens, I mean the way

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Speaker 1: they speak about the guy, and this is how all

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks are very very well liked in the

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Speaker 1: building in terms of intangibles, toughness, the way the teammates

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Speaker 1: five off him, and like you said, Milroe fits all that.

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Speaker 1: So part of the way to improve is to be

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Speaker 1: a football junkie. Lamar is, you know by all accounts,

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Speaker 1: Jalen is too. If he improves, he has a coach

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Speaker 1: who could see the vision. He has a GM like

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Speaker 1: don't get a twist. John Schneider is a trades guy.

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Speaker 1: Who did John Schneider love five or six years ago?

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Speaker 1: I guess seven eight years ago? He wanted to trade

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for Josh Allen. He wanted Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: Cleveland said no, and they ended up taking Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and even Russell Wilson was like kind of small, but

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Speaker 1: he had trades, he could run, and he had a

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Speaker 1: big arm. Sam Darnold Gino Smith like he's got a

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Speaker 1: he loved Drew Locke. So Schneider's kind of a scout. Scout,

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Speaker 1: He's he'll take some swings for the fence. So yeah, listen,

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Speaker 1: More often than not, Lamar Jackson does not happen. But

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Speaker 1: when you factor in Jalen Milroe started for Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: led them to the playoffs and made a throw in

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Speaker 1: the game against Auburn that how many guys could have

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Speaker 1: made rolling to his left BB in the back of

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Speaker 1: the end zone to get them in the game against Michigan,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's hard to unsee the inaccuracy, and

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Speaker 1: while their percentages were a little different, I think if

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Speaker 1: you watch the wrong game. I remember Lamar playing Mississippi State,

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Speaker 1: I think in the bowl game, and he's had a

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Speaker 1: couple throws that I couldn't unsee, and you realize, like, listen,

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Speaker 1: Johnny made a million throws early on, We're gonna have

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Speaker 1: him run around and turned out Lamar Jackson is like

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Speaker 1: the fast guy ever, and then Andrew Berry the Browns

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Speaker 1: GM was like, yeah, I think this guy's faster, which

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Speaker 1: I think is pretty bold thing to say, because I

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Speaker 1: think if Lamar had run a forty at the combine,

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Speaker 1: he would have ran faster than Milrose four to four

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Speaker 1: to zero. I think he would have ran like a

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Speaker 1: four to three to zero. But regardless, milrose play speed

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Speaker 1: is elite as well. So yeah, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: in the third round, when you say best case scenario,

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Speaker 1: it'd be one thing to take him in the top ten,

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Speaker 1: like an Anthony Richardson situation. It'd be like, that's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: Third round. You could argue it's a no brainer. You

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Speaker 1: could argue it's like the easiest pick they made the

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Speaker 1: entire draft. It's like, well, if this guy just becomes

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Speaker 1: seventy percent of that, we're not even looking for the

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Speaker 1: MVPs and one of the best players in the league.

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Speaker 1: Can you just become a dynamic starter who has some

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Speaker 1: accuracy issues, We're fine with that. So yeah, good research there.

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Speaker 1: The volume