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Speaker 1: is Prime Cuts best of the Colin Coward Podcast. Banner Week,

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Speaker 1: What's New? Joel Clatt and I discussed the big ten

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve shake up and the big schools that could

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Speaker 1: be moving next. Mike Silver and I react to the

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Speaker 1: Baker trade and talked about the Niners' concerns with Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: They're real. Chad Millman stopped by the latest news. How's

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Speaker 1: it effect the betting odds? But first, my top takes

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Speaker 1: of the week. So here's my takeaway and Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: Darnald and Baker Mayfield. I was a Donald fan over

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Speaker 1: a Baker fan. Darnold was a bigger athlete, he was stronger,

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Speaker 1: he was more athletic, and I thought he was a

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Speaker 1: better guy. I think all of those are true. The

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Speaker 1: question about Darnald was his delivery slow, methodical, not tebow slow,

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Speaker 1: but just inaccurate, kind of reckless. That's proven to be true.

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was considered a better thrower, but he was

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Speaker 1: a two time walk on chip on his shoulder in

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Speaker 1: those instances. He's become exactly what we thought, but he

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Speaker 1: has a better delivery system. He gets rid of the

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Speaker 1: ball quicker, he's got a little more zip on it,

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Speaker 1: and historically he's been a little bit more accurate, although

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Speaker 1: his accuracy has dipped in the last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: my takeaway is Darnald and Baker Mayfield, regardless of whose

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Speaker 1: right or what do you think, we know what they are.

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Speaker 1: There is no quarterback in the last ten years that

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Speaker 1: has come into the league and after four years we

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Speaker 1: radically change our mind. It doesn't happen. Name one. Very

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Speaker 1: early we said with Lamar Jackson, whoa but we had

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Speaker 1: issues how he threw the ball, and can you play

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Speaker 1: from behind when you're more runner than thrower. That's what

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Speaker 1: we think today. People often use Josh Allen as an example.

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Speaker 1: Boy he struggled in year one. Yeah, he wasn't overly accurate,

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Speaker 1: but he was still six six and leaping over people

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Speaker 1: with the best arm arguably in the NFL. There is

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Speaker 1: no way you could look at Josh Allen in year

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Speaker 1: one and bail on him. He was simply too talented.

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Speaker 1: He was literally too talented. He would be like a

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Speaker 1: great wide receiver that had the drops. You've got to

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Speaker 1: coach the drops out of him. But if you're running

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Speaker 1: a four to three, you're six to four, you run

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Speaker 1: on you. Okay, nobody was bailing on Josh Allen. It's different.

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Speaker 1: Baker's small. Sam's big, but he's not strikingly big. He

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Speaker 1: didn't have a great arm, he's not wildly mobile. The

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Speaker 1: bottom line with Baker and Darnold, we know what they are.

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Speaker 1: One's a little snarky and immature, limitations with size limitations

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Speaker 1: athletically Baker, one of them is a good guy. Pretty athletic,

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Speaker 1: decent size, but his delivery system stinks. He just gets

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Speaker 1: rid of the ball slowly, and that half beat that

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Speaker 1: works in the PAC twelve kills you in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So what I have found through years of doing this

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Speaker 1: of me was right on Baker, a lot of me

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Speaker 1: was wrong on Sam Darnald. But the truth is we

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Speaker 1: know what they are. If you're clinging to the Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnold's going to be a franchise quarterback and a good one,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. If you're clinging to Baker,

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Speaker 1: he's going to prove Coward wrong. You're wrong. Cleveland had

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Speaker 1: thirty first ranked offensive line. I like Christian McCaffrey, but

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Speaker 1: we don't even think he likes Baker may feel Matt Rule,

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Speaker 1: people that listen to my show, say, you know, Colin,

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Speaker 1: you talk about LA and California teams a lot because

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Speaker 1: they're all winning. The Warriors, the Dodgers, the Rams, the

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Speaker 1: Right now, New York's going through a terrible state of

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Speaker 1: it's bit the fear of God in Genie Bus. And

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Speaker 1: willing to say, yeah, Kyrie's a headache, Kyrie is selfish.

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Speaker 1: It seems absurd. My father wouldn't have done this, but

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Speaker 1: a playoff team and you'll become relevant again. Inside the

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Speaker 1: not do that. The Bus family's wealth is all with

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Speaker 1: I think there is a sense of, if not desperation

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Speaker 1: Westbrook thing just does not work. It does not work.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie works, and you can talk yourself in as a fan,

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Speaker 1: into Kyrie. A d Lebron Beaga championship team. I don't

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Speaker 1: although we have our TV segment every week where I

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Speaker 1: And and I've thrown that line out there and people

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Speaker 1: Like it's no one watches them play, right, And and

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Speaker 1: when you look at the economics of where the SEC

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Speaker 1: much buddy what he hired him. So I think it

427
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: made sense though for the Panthers. Look, if you want him,

428
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: if you think he's better than what you got, and

429
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: especially if you're Matt Rule and you really need to

430
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: win this year, what are you waiting for? It's interesting.

431
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks came on my show and he said, I

432
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: think Sam Darnold's going to beat him out. He said,

433
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: he's more impressive physically, he has relationships in the building.

434
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: Baker's going to have to learn a new offense with

435
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: a new coordinator, has no relationships. In fact, Robbie Anderson

436
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: badmouthed him, and he said, I think it's going to

437
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 1: be a quarterback battle. I don't think Baker Mayfield has

438
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: been given the starting job. What's your take? Well, first

439
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: of all, I think the Robbie Anderson who bashed him

440
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: was Robby Anderson. He's now Robbie, which is in fact,

441
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: the better way to spell Robbie. I have a son

442
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: who would agree. But so maybe maybe we'll give rob

443
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: b Ie Anderson the benefit of the doubt. But yeah,

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00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: I understand what Bucky's saying. He's he's so smart about,

445
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, the intricacies of playing the game and scouting

446
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: the game. But I also, you know, I harkened back

447
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: to what I think it was a commander's related quote

448
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: with Taylor Heineke said about him and Carson Wentz, which

449
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: is they asked him, hey, do you think you could

450
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: compete with Carson Wentz? And he's like, dude, look at

451
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: what he's making and look at what I'm making. No,

452
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: now it's not quite that pronounced obviously with Donald and Baker,

453
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, in similar situations. But the Panthers went out

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00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: and got Baker for a reason. It's not insurance in

455
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: case Sam Donald doesn't beat him out. They've seen Sam Donald,

456
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: they've seen Cam Newton coming back, they've seen Teddy Bridgewater.

457
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: They think they need to get better, and they are

458
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: absolutely intending for Baker to be that guy. And in

459
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: fairness to Baker, you know, last year he probably wasn't right.

460
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: He did have the shoulder injury, he got it it out,

461
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: he tried to help the team and now it's big

462
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: used to get of the year before he had a

463
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: pretty good year. So he's been uneven even when healthy,

464
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: and it's gonna you know, it's it's not any sure thing,

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00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: especially as you alluded to with your conversation with Bucky

466
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: New playbook, got to do it in a compressed time.

467
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: But I do think he's got a chance here to

468
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: seize this and get it rolling a little bit. Yeah,

469
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, one of the my takeaways was, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to have Cleveland's offensive line, but he

471
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Speaker 1: does get another offensive coach. And if you look at

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Speaker 1: some of the defensive head coaches, Belichick struggled with Brady

473
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: at the end, Pete Carroll struggled with Russ, Zimmer struggled

474
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: with Cousins, Flora struggled with Tua. It's not the worst

475
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: landing spot. It's a pretty wonky division. Mike Brady retires

476
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: in a year, Baker, an argument can be made in

477
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: a year will be the best quarterback talent in the division.

478
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's crazy. I mean, I mean I might

479
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: argue Jamis on talent um. You know, Jamis has his

480
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: scars too, right, he threw all the interceptions, he has

481
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: had some off the field stuff. He's coming off at

482
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: acl But really, once Sean Payton got a hold of him,

483
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: he's looked better. Man. He's an ultra talented guy. Probably

484
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: if you you know, didn't know anything about um, you

485
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: know their performances, and you just line the two guys

486
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: up to former number one overall picks, you go, I'll

487
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: take the tall guy with that arm coming off the knee.

488
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: But um, you know the thing I wonder about is

489
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: Baker's edge, right, Like he's done better when he's been

490
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: the aggrieve deflicted, you know, underdog, no one believes in me,

491
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: and that is clearly gonna have to uh, you know,

492
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to recalibrate that, and it probably is.

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00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's definitely has to have some humility now.

494
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: And you know, look, we've all we've all had moments

495
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: where that's happened to us in our careers, and you know,

496
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: you have to you have to deal with it. It

497
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: doesn't work out the way you thought it would somewhere,

498
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: and um, you know you have to kind of process

499
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: that within yourself. But he kind of thought when he

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00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: got to Cleveland, I'm taking over. This is my thing, um.

501
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: And it was going on a good trajectory for a while.

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00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: Uneven but two years ago, when they were in the

503
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: playoff game in Kansas City, it was like, whoa, they

504
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: just beat Pittsburgh in the playoffs and now they're they're

505
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: fighting tooth and nail with the Chiefs. We're here to stay.

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00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: In Baker's eyes, I'm sure he's thinking, I try to

507
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: be a team guy and took you know, sucked it

508
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: up and played hurt and now you turn your back.

509
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: Come me. But it's really hard for me to shed

510
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: too many tears for Baker, knowing how he behaved early

511
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: on in his career. And I know you and I

512
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: were two of the only people even daring to say

513
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: these things back then. But you know, as someone who's

514
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: pretty close to Hugh Jackson, I thought it was ridiculously

515
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: disrespectful the way he acted in the wake of Hugh

516
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: Jackson's firing and then hiring by the Bengals and then

517
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: showing them up on the sidelines and just going out

518
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: of his way to try to, you know, torture a

519
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: guy who had just had his career implode in a

520
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: really disadvantageous situation in Cleveland. And we could relitigate that.

521
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of reasons who didn't do

522
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: well there. Some of them are because of who, some

523
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 1: of them were institutional. But I as I said at

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00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: the time, you know, there was there was talk that

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00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: same year that say, John Harbaugh could get fired during

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00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: the season, and I said, imagine if John Harbaugh gotten fired,

527
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: had landed with a division rival, was standing on the

528
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: sidelines and Lamar Jackson was just blatantly taunting of a

529
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: disrespecting him during the game after the game, I think

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00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: that would have played a little differently in society for

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00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: obvious Yeah. No, I mean, listen, Baker's got a maturity issue.

532
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: I know when he was coming out, I met somebody knew,

533
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: somebody who interviewed his dad, and he said, oh boy,

534
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff there. There's a lot of

535
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ego and pride, and so I

536
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: think Baker's been exactly you know, I do a segment

537
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: called Colin Right, Colin Wrong. I think one of my

538
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: rights was Baker Mayfield, who I always said, this ego,

539
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: this snark, it's not going to play at the professional level.

540
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: It just doesn't. Didn't Jay Cutler's more talented, it didn't

541
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: play at War. People out. Jeff George more talented, Snyde

542
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: and Snark wore people out. It's a whole different ball game. Well,

543
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: you're always connected to the Niners. My takeaway, I think

544
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: you and I probably agree on this is my takeaway

545
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: is you can't own the room as a quarterback if

546
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: another guy is in the room who everybody likes. And

547
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is really a dude's dude. He's a guy's guy.

548
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: And to me, you've got to find out if Trey

549
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: Lance can play, and you can't ask him to own

550
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: a room when the world's best looking, coolest dudes two

551
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: cubicles away. I think the Niners have to just move

552
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: off of Garoppolo and get a six round pick. I

553
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: completely hear you. But this is the counterpoint, and this

554
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: is the conundrum. So you've got a team that is

555
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: built to win. Now this is the window. George Kittle,

556
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: you don't know how long he's gonna do this. You know,

557
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: You've got guys signed for this moment, and you were

558
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: good enough to win. Now, if Jaquiski Tart, you know,

559
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: catches the interception, you might have won it last year.

560
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: You almost wanted two years earlier. Yes, you are all

561
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: in on Trey Lance. Whether or not that was the

562
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: person when you traded those three first rounders that you

563
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: were envisioning could have been Mac Jones. Again, I won't

564
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: relitigate that, but whatever it is, you did that for

565
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. So you are all in. You are built

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00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: to win. Now, let me add another weird element to this.

567
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: You are constructed offensively to take advantage of Jimmy Garoppolo's

568
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: unique gifts incredible accuracy, willingness to hang in, the guts

569
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: to deliver a ball in tight spaces, and the uncanny

570
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: ability to do that accurately. So Jimmy's not perfect. We

571
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: could talk about what he doesn't do great. He does

572
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: those things great like elite and you've got Debot, you've

573
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: got auk because after the catch guy, you've got you shook.

574
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: On the backside, you've got Kittle. All these guys could

575
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: get the ball in tight spaces and go. So that's

576
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 1: what Jimmy does great. And so if you've seen Trey

577
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: Lance practice now for a whole year, yeah, I believe

578
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: this is what you think if you're Kyle and the

579
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: Niners coaches. In fact, I know you think he is

580
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: really smart. We love that he is athletically awesome. He

581
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: has a great arm. We're not sure that he can

582
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: take that great arm and throw that ball in those

583
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: type spaces really accurately. And if and so, that's the

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00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: only reason I think, deep in his heart, Kyle may

585
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: want it to hedge because your team is to build. Now.

586
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to because of what you said,

587
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: which is very logical. And I don't think even if

588
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: he wants to, he'll be able to because I think

589
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Jimmy will force the issue as nice a guy as

590
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: he is. And I think all of that's right. But

591
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: if you're a Nner fan, it's a little scary because

592
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: you were you know, you were sitting there nicely at

593
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium watching your team with a ted point lead

594
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship game against the rival and thinking

595
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: we're going with the super Bowl, and Jimmy, this is amazing,

596
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: and now you're going, okay, so we're basically playing Russian

597
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: roulette here. We are either gonna be in awesome shape

598
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: with this young guy eventually and hopefully the windows still open,

599
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: or we traded three ones for a guy who's not

600
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: able to do what our team was constructed to have

601
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback do, and by the time we fix that,

602
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be gone. That's a scary feeling. Well, you

603
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: and I may have the same source and may not,

604
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: but i've I've said when I saw Trey Lance play esthetically,

605
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: it's ugly. It's not Philip Rivers ugly, but it's not

606
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: a pretty delivery. It's really rough. Secondly, what you're saying

607
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: is what I'm hearing is that he's not His delivery

608
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: is they're kind of rebuilding it. He it's arm fatigue,

609
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: it's not an easy throws. He needs days off, and

610
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: they're worried about his accuracy. You and I are here

611
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: in the same things because you and I know Annie

612
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: Reid moved off Alex Smith who gone to the playoffs

613
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: because they were at practice they saw mahomes right. Yeah.

614
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: By the way, Buffalo, even though Josh Allen struggled first year,

615
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: was all in because they were a package. And I

616
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: want to caution fans here, what happened with Josh Allen

617
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: is a as far as I know, such an anomaly

618
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: that it is a once in forever thing that a

619
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: fifty five percent passer could be a seventy percent passer

620
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: like that. Like they say, you can't coach accuracy, Brian

621
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: day Ball apparently can and as a head coach because

622
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: of it. Now, But that was weird what happened with

623
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. But for the most part, it is, you know,

624
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: it's tough to get way, way more accurate now. The

625
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: arm fatigue is a really interesting thing, and I have

626
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: heard that too, and I just would again like people

627
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: don't think this is just the two of us, you know,

628
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. Yeah, let's just look at some facts. You know,

629
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: last year they were going to use a tray lance package.

630
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: They were thrilled about it. Yeah, they were that was

631
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: going to be a big, big weapon for them. They

632
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: started out doing it and then they just stopped. So

633
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: something happened to convince Kyle Shanahan I don't gain by

634
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: putting tray lance in Situationally. Another thing that happened is

635
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: they were three and five and I went to the

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Speaker 1: game that dropped him to three and five at home

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00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals. They looked flat, they looked done. Their

638
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: playmakers weren't making plays. They look like a dead team.

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Speaker 1: And usually when you're when you look like a dead team,

640
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Speaker 1: and you traded three first round picks for a promising rookie,

641
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: the you know the eight, the march before we know

642
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Speaker 1: what happens. Jimmy, you're on the bench, Tray Lance. Let's

643
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: see now, they hug with Jimmy, they beat the Rams,

644
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: they got well, they made the run. So maybe Kyle

645
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: was a half away from doing that anyway. But the

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Speaker 1: fact to me that they stopped using Trey Lance at

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Speaker 1: all and they didn't put him in when the season

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00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: was crossed ut tells me they were seeing something that

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Speaker 1: was concerning. Let me throw a source at you. There's

650
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Speaker 1: a lot of attention paid to Trey Lance. But so

651
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: far in that quarterback draft, we know Trevor Lawrence had

652
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: a bad first coach, but as real talent, we know

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00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Mac Jones may have a low ceiling, but he's been

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Speaker 1: pretty effective. The two that we think are talents but

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00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: we don't know are Trey Lance in justin fields well,

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Speaker 1: Wilson I think fits in there too. Yeah, Zach Wilson

657
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: we've seen more of. But Zach Wilson had size issues,

658
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: competition issues like Tray and Justin are big, strong, mobile,

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Speaker 1: push the ball down the field guys. Yeah, how about this.

660
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Speaker 1: The current GM of the Bears did not draft Justin Fields.

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00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: The current coach of the Bears had no reported fondness

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Speaker 1: of Justin Fields. I have been told they're not necessarily

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Speaker 1: sold on Justin Fields. They don't know, they don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's that I would do nothing to, you know,

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Speaker 1: to dispute all that, because it's legit, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's legit that that could happen. Right, They didn't pick them. Now,

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Speaker 1: I presume they had the discussions with ownership before they

668
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Speaker 1: were hired, and I presume ownership wanted to hear, ye, hey,

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Speaker 1: you drafted a winner. We're going to make them great.

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Speaker 1: But we've had that before Jake Gruden came in. It

671
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Speaker 1: was like, I can fix RG three her cousins is

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Speaker 1: the guy, right, So I would say this, I we

673
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: don't know about any of them. I mean, Trevor Lawrence

674
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: had urban kicking his kicker and trading cap etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to give him a mulligan there. And

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Speaker 1: people think he's talented. Zach Wilson supposed to have incredible

677
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Speaker 1: arm talent. Now yeah they said, oh he's cocky. Now,

678
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: by the way, only time that all the top quarterbacks

679
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: were being called smart by everyone in my Usually it's

680
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: like half and half, like apparently all these guys are smart.

681
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: So Zack Wilson didn't look great. We're gonna have to see.

682
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: They got him a better roster this year. But jury's

683
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: still out on the top two. Tray Lance absolutely, we

684
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Speaker 1: just covered that justin Fields. Absolutely, Chicago, Chicago's a graveyard

685
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Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. We're gonna see. And oh, by the way,

686
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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, Now, Mac Jones most celebrated when of his

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Speaker 1: rookie year was when he threw two passes I think

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Speaker 1: two or three whatever, Yeah whatever, Bill did that game.

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Speaker 1: And look, I know everyone says low ceil I got

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Speaker 1: back Jones, and I think this is part of why

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Speaker 1: Kyle by have tucked himself out of taking them. But

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Speaker 1: the real nerdy talent evaluators that I've talked to at

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Speaker 1: high levels think that he has the ability to be

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Speaker 1: elite in terms of pocket movement and awareness and able

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00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: to deliver the ball, ability to deliver the ball at

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Speaker 1: weird angles and tough angles under duress. That that's not

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Speaker 1: just good, that that could be special. So there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of different ways a quarterback could be special.

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Speaker 1: It's possible that mac Jones will become special and everyone

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Speaker 1: will go well, Bill and them just saw it, and

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00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: nobody else did except Kyle, who talked himself out. Oh

702
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Speaker 1: there I go again. But we we really don't know.

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Speaker 1: They could all be good, they could all suck more

704
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Speaker 1: more likely than not, one or two of them will

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Speaker 1: be good. One or two of them won't one or

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00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: you know, someone will be in the middle. But make

707
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: no mistake, the clock is ticking on all of them,

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Speaker 1: and you know some may be under more pressure than

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Speaker 1: other others. I would think Trey Lance would be under

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Speaker 1: the most pressure because of the stakes, because that team

711
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Speaker 1: is that good. Um, But there's a lot still that

712
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: we don't know. And I think if you and I

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Speaker 1: come back in November and do this, you and I

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Speaker 1: will both have really strong opinions about all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my guess is Trevor Lawrence has the trust of the staff.

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Speaker 1: As you put it, a mulligan, but he's just he

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Speaker 1: really looks the part on some throws. I would put

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Speaker 1: a question mark on Trey on Fields at Zack and

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Speaker 1: on Mac Jones. Yeah yeah, and really Trevor. And we

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Speaker 1: think Trevor, we think Trevor's good, but I mean, you know, yikes,

721
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Speaker 1: and look, you know, I don't want to rip on Trevor.

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Speaker 1: He could end up being great, but like he kind

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Speaker 1: of took a step back as all that clown show

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Speaker 1: was going on. I'm thinking what Peyton Manning would have

725
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: done as a rookie, even when he threw all those interceptions.

726
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: If Peyton Manning had walked into his rookie year to that,

727
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Speaker 1: I think he would have strangled Urban Meyer on television.

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Speaker 1: All right. Chad Milman, chief content officer of the Action Network,

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Speaker 1: is stopping by for a little summer discussion. For the record,

730
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Speaker 1: I just got back from Turks and Caicos, which is

731
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Speaker 1: very warm in June and early July. But I will

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Speaker 1: tell you this, Milman, I'd never been to the Caribbean

733
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Speaker 1: spectacular Lee, surely wonderful local people. Not sure if you've

734
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Speaker 1: ever taken your beautiful wife and kids to the Turks.

735
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Speaker 1: I highly recommend it. What say you. I have not

736
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Speaker 1: been to what we like to call T and C,

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Speaker 1: but I have been around the area and it's phenomenal.

738
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Speaker 1: It makes you feel like you can see to the

739
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Speaker 1: end of the world and you're never going to reach it,

740
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: and you don't care because you're so relaxed, because you're

741
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: just having a drink. You're sitting by an infinity pool,

742
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Speaker 1: You're reading a book in your case, You're posting Instagram

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Speaker 1: videos every thirty seconds, responding to the news, usually shirtless,

744
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: with someone in the background either looking at you funny

745
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: or wondering why is this guy talking to a camera?

746
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: Or it was one of your family that was wondering

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Speaker 1: why is he still working when we're on vacation in

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Speaker 1: Turks and cakeous, But I will say vacation generally has

749
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: never been more important and restorative. Yeah, no, kidding, right,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is our segment called Sharpen Square. So

751
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Speaker 1: I thought this week, the week one lines are out,

752
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you three games I really really love,

753
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: not like love, and then you can give me a

754
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: couple you like, and I want you to respond to mine.

755
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: So okay, I'm want to give you my three and

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Speaker 1: you respond to him, Yep. First game. I like Detroit

757
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: plus four against Philly. I think by the end of

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00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: the year Philly is better. But I thought last year

759
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: Detroit was about as competitive as a bad team could be.

760
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: I like their off season between t J Hawkinson, Amron

761
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: Sat Brown, Piney, Seul DeAndre Swift, Jared Goff more than

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Speaker 1: a competent offense. Philadelphia has got some new pieces. I

763
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: think eventually they gel. But Week one, you know, Chad,

764
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: average teams don't think they're average in September. They know it.

765
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: By October, there is no way I can lay four points.

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Speaker 1: I love the Lions plus four. Sharper Square look the

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Speaker 1: Lions as a dog, the Lions as a home dog.

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Speaker 1: That's going to be a theme for us throughout twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two. I love this play. The wise guys love

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00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: this play. The line in a lot of places has

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00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: moved in the Lions direction meeting. It's gone from four

772
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: and a half down to four. The Lions are a

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Speaker 1: team that believes right, and the Lions are a team

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00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: that also knows who they are. They are as The

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00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: Lions are a team that got more talented, and the

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Speaker 1: Eagles are a team that is already starting to have

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Speaker 1: to defend against ideas that they are an all star team. Right,

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00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: what did aj Brown say last week? You were on vacation.

779
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: You might not have seen it. Then again, you responded

780
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: to everything, so you probably did. Yeah, he's saying we're

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00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: not a team of all stars yet. And look everyone

782
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: thinks Jalen hurts. They're talking about how Jack Dee is,

783
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: how much better he's gotten. I'm a believer on the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: If you ask me, do I like the Eagles over

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00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: nine and a half wins? I like the Eagles over

786
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: nine and a half wins? Do I like the Eagles

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00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: to cover in Week one on the road at Detroit

788
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Speaker 1: against the coach who the jury is out, whether he's

789
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Speaker 1: good or not. But I am a huge fan of

790
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, and I do think getting this team Jack

791
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: for Week one as a home underdog, that is the

792
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: team I want to play. All Right, here's the second

793
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: one I love. I'm gonna go an order of love.

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00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: I love that one. I really love this one. Raiders

795
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: getting over a field goal at the Chargers. It'll be

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00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: a sixty five thirty five Raiders crowd. Davante Adams two,

797
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: Hunter Renfro to Josh Jacobs to Darren Waller, Josh McDaniels

798
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: is a very clever offensive coordinator. Is he a great

799
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Speaker 1: head coach? I don't know, but I thought the Raiders

800
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: and I think they had a great offseason making the playoffs.

801
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of really positive energy around

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Speaker 1: this team. It's going to be really a home game,

803
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: and the verdicts out on I think the Chargers have

804
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Speaker 1: a really good roster. There is no proof that they

805
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: win big games. There is proof they're talented, but in

806
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: games like this, they're not good enough to give over

807
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: a field goal. I like the Raiders a lot here, Yeah,

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00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: I agree, Like, look, you've got an intradivision game against

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00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: two teams that a lot of people would say are

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00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: relatively evenly matched. The Raiders got better on offense. The

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Speaker 1: Chargers got much much better on defense, just by virtue

812
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: of getting some players back, plus some of the trades

813
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: they've made to improve their pass rush. Games like this,

814
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be more then a field goal. It should

815
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: be a field goal, and when it's a field goal,

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00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: you should pass. If it's minus three and a half,

817
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: you should take the underdog. If it's two and a half.

818
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: You should take the favorite and that's it. So right

819
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: now this number is sitting at four. You gotta take

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Speaker 1: the Raiders in this spotre Okay, here's my favorite pick

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Speaker 1: Week one, Minnesota at home getting points against Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: So here's why I like it. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: think the Vikings will be the most improved team in

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Speaker 1: the league. Kirk Cousins has a new contract, He's in

825
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: a good mood. He also has the taller Sean McVay coach.

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Speaker 1: The league is changing defensive coaches who are legends. Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll in trouble. Tomlin hasn't won a big playoff game

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Speaker 1: in a decade. Bill Belichick fields mediocre, Zimmer fired, Fangio fired,

829
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Speaker 1: Floras fired, Rivera getting heat. There is one ascending defensive

830
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Speaker 1: coach in the league, Sean McDermott, and that's mostly because

831
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Speaker 1: of Josh Allen. The league has changed offensive coaches win.

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Speaker 1: That's they have a relationship with the quarterbacks. Brady couldn't

833
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Speaker 1: get along with Belichick at the end. Two couldn't get

834
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Speaker 1: along with Flores, Zimmer couldn't get along with Cousins, Pete

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Speaker 1: couldn't get along with Russell Wilson, Vic Fangio couldn't get

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Speaker 1: along with any of his quarterbacks. It works. Kirk's got money,

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Speaker 1: he's got security, he's got an offensive coach. We both

838
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: liked their weapons. They have nice players all over the offense.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay could be good, but there's no proof that

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00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in week one is going to trust a

841
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: rookie college receiver from an FCF school, or Alan Lazard

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Speaker 1: being his one, or Sammy Watkins being dependable on a

843
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: flag route. That may develop, but Aarons trust issues with

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Speaker 1: his own family. We saw it in the playoff game

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Speaker 1: with teammates for years, Minnesota early. They're bringing a new offense,

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Speaker 1: green Bay's gonna be guessing. We know what green Bay's

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Speaker 1: gonna do, and Minnesota's got tape on what they do.

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Speaker 1: Love the Vikings here. You are one hundred percent correct

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Speaker 1: about the Vikings in this spot. A short home dog

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Speaker 1: against a very public team is always going to be

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Speaker 1: the side you want to take. I do feel like

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Speaker 1: you've got a little vacation brain if you're trying to

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Speaker 1: compare Mike Zimmer and Vic Fangio and how Vic Fangio

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Speaker 1: did with no quarterbacks, or how Mike Zimmer did with

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and their defensive pet degrees as assistant coaches

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Speaker 1: with Mike Tomlin and Bill Belichick and the history they

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Speaker 1: have as super Bowl winning coaches. Entirely different conversations that

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Speaker 1: should not be a factor and why you're betting on

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Speaker 1: the Vikings against the Packers. Agree with you one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent about the Packers in the spot. Who are their

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Speaker 1: offensive weapons, who will Aaron Rodgers trust? How are they

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Speaker 1: going to build a game plan about anybody? And how

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Speaker 1: can they get downfield? I also I kind of disagree

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Speaker 1: about kirk Cousins being comfortable. I think the reason you

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Speaker 1: take the Vikings here almost has nothing to do with

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Speaker 1: the talent on the field. If you're a profess no better,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at this number and you're taking it because

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Speaker 1: of the percentages, because of what the president tells you.

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Speaker 1: Because you know you've got a matchup of a Vikings

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Speaker 1: team that is very competitive, that lost close games last

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Speaker 1: year and has experienced beating the Packers and beating Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: and you're getting them as a short home dog. You

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Speaker 1: know the public is going to be on the Packers.

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Speaker 1: You want to be in the Viking show. The volume,

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