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Speaker 1: Iheartradios Live coverage IB twenty twenty five Steelers Training Camp.

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Speaker 2: Our number two of the drive here, our number two

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Speaker 2: of Steelers practice. As we are back on campus at

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Speaker 2: Saint Vincent College, some teen period going on in front

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Speaker 2: of us, Matt as I tell you what I think,

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Speaker 2: Roman Wilson is continuing to look more and more comfortable

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Speaker 2: out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that encourage vend over the last couple of days,

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Speaker 3: a success story so far of camp. You know, kind

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Speaker 3: of what you want to say. See every day looks

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Speaker 3: a little better than the next. And yeah, that's a

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Speaker 3: name is worth bringing up. I'm glad he did for.

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Speaker 2: Those who might just be jumping in here in the

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Speaker 2: new hour. Maybe you're hopping in your car heading home

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Speaker 2: or something like that. Or heading to a night shift

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Speaker 2: type of work. A nice period from James Pierre just

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Speaker 2: a few minutes ago. Two receptions, one of Will Howard,

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Speaker 2: one of Mason Rudolph As that's another group where you

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Speaker 2: wouldn't hate to see a couple of people, you know,

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Speaker 2: separate themselves a little bit. No, I meant to tell

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Speaker 2: you some big news as well too. Zach Fraser and

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Speaker 2: his wife welcomed their first child, a baby boy, into

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Speaker 2: the world. So if you thought Zach was big and

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Speaker 2: strong in West Virginia paus in the past, now he's

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Speaker 2: got the dad's strength out of the resumes as well too,

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Speaker 2: So that should certainly help things.

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Speaker 3: And congratulations. I hope that young kid goes to pitt

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Speaker 3: in eighteen years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if he's that silly, all right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know kids are crazy, but not that

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Speaker 2: crazy as Will Howard will step in in front of us.

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Speaker 2: Now that would be kind of funny, tho, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, who we got out there?

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Speaker 2: Will Howard does a little check with me. Schronic is out.

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Speaker 3: There, gen'erally pay attention to the old line.

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Speaker 2: Darnell Washington, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Boy Washington, and he just moved for his size. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: moved so well all the time.

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Speaker 2: Like he's Even if I was a linebacker, Matt, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't want to tackle that, right in a defensive back,

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Speaker 2: Even if I was a linebacker, I wouldn'tant attack me.

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Speaker 3: And Hoolkm's a well built, solid NFL linebacker and he

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Speaker 3: probably hit him a little harder than he should have

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Speaker 3: there after the catch and not they're like fighting over

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Speaker 3: or anything. But still he's like forty pounds fifty pounds

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Speaker 3: later than Darnell. Oh, yeah, Darnell didn't love that. They

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Speaker 3: kind of rattledhim up a little bit. He's shaking his

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see, maybe we'll see, uh, maybe we'll see

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Speaker 2: some of those emotions bubbling up here once again today

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Speaker 2: as you didn't expected, and moving some men in motion

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Speaker 2: once again is will Howard Trey Sermon, fellow Buckeye in

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Speaker 2: the backfield, and he will take the snap, fake it

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Speaker 2: to Tray Sermon, complete a nice pass to move.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Firemuth's really standing out here.

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Speaker 2: He is. And that was a nice you know, not

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Speaker 2: a perfect pass, certainly, certainly, certainly one of the moose

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Speaker 2: should catch, but not a perfect pass. But he brought

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Speaker 2: I mean he brought that in no problem, very fluid.

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Speaker 3: Go up and get his catch, a ball away from

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Speaker 3: your frame, be big, get down field. Now Firemuth looks

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Speaker 2: He is. And you know, without John new Smith out there,

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Speaker 2: he's kind of been the and no DK metcalf either

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Speaker 2: true it would be your future guy. He has definitely been.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly the right way to put it. He's definitely

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Speaker 2: been the feature guy I think for the offense out

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Speaker 2: here through the first hour so practice as we will

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Speaker 2: have another Will Howard rep in front of us, same personnel,

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Speaker 2: it looks like for the offense, and this time he

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Speaker 2: will give to Trey sermon. And that's another one of

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Speaker 3: A few of these can be difficult.

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Speaker 2: They can certainly be a little tough from time to time.

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Speaker 3: As a young man. We have not brought up and

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Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't know much about him. It

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Speaker 3: is this Kyler Baw He's another defensive tackle. They signed

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Speaker 3: the same day as yesterday. Yesterday he was with Fojoko.

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Speaker 3: He just got shot through and didn't got into the

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Speaker 3: new name that I stood out on that red You

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Speaker 2: If you're a new name first day, that's what you

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Speaker 2: want to do, right, stand out on a few reps,

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Speaker 2: make the coaches go, you know, hey, look at this

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Speaker 2: in the film room, he's making some place. He's look,

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll get him a little bit more on his

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just noticed his hustle and he's kind of

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Speaker 3: a shorter bowling ballish type guy. But there's a lot

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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's part of this process, right, taking a look

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Speaker 2: at these new guys, letting, you know, or.

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Speaker 3: Suit his players and all that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I think Yoko is in there on the

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Speaker 2: interior now as well. Too. Good to see him back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, they're throwing them right back right in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Hey, see see how you respond? Connor Heyward out there now,

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Speaker 2: he'll move in motion from left to right with Skyler Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Skyler points to his noggin, does a check with me

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Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage, offensive line barking out some signals.

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Speaker 2: Here Skyler takes a snap. It is a handoff, and

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Speaker 2: that one was pretty nicely blocked.

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Speaker 2: It was again kind of difficult to tell those things

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Speaker 2: in a non live tackling running play, but Roman Wilson

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Speaker 2: a nice six seven eight yard gain. As this team

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Speaker 2: period looks like it's about to come to close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, in all the old line, I know it's

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Speaker 3: not you know, padded and all that, but the line

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Speaker 3: is the first move well, and yeah, these deaf guys

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Speaker 3: are playing pretty well. Progert Jones moved around well today too. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's getting past that groin situation.

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Speaker 2: And this is another kind of one of those paint

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Speaker 2: and the DJ's playing the music and everything. At the

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Speaker 2: shimmy shaking, showing up. Bill Nunn would have been proud

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Speaker 2: a good sign to me, like, yeah, he's moving gently

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Speaker 2: and yeah and all and and all that stuff. So

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Speaker 3: But he's been quite a participant. I thought he might

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Speaker 2: Oh he's him and say im all who both have

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Speaker 2: but that that's still very good to see from those

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Speaker 2: two who have who have been dealing with some stuff

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Speaker 3: Here so far now the old line heading down to

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Speaker 3: their head zone and we're getting a punt period.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Colas weightman just boomed one. Yeah, let's see

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Speaker 2: Cam Johnson here. Now his turn to uh, what's what?

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Speaker 2: What club will he use this time? Man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the end of over and trying to make

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Speaker 3: it die at the tennis Yeah man, good hang time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I have said this many times. We

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Speaker 2: or kicking experts. Now, I would it's one of those

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Speaker 2: things like you watch Aaron Rodgers throw the football, and

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Speaker 2: then you watch everybody else throw the football, and it's

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Speaker 2: not the other guys can't throw it. It just looks

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Speaker 2: a little bit. It looks a little bit different, looks

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Speaker 2: a little bit different wide receivers and quarterbacks on the

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Speaker 2: like the defensive line and the edge rushers getting a

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Speaker 2: there's some teams and some O line and some wide

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Speaker 2: receiver stuff going on out here today. And look and

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Speaker 2: see Danny Smith like calling in this is a good exaen.

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Speaker 3: That's a great example, especially on special teams, which can

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Speaker 3: be hard to follow, especially for me and you, not

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Speaker 3: for Danny. But I mean there's always tweaks to special

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Speaker 3: teams rules. And you know, right.

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Speaker 2: They're lining up in some formations here, and Danny's to

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Speaker 2: yard line and he literally just turned around and kind

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Speaker 2: and asked them something quick. And then the flag on

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Speaker 2: that one. So I'm sure Danny will probably be going

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Speaker 2: to to pick his brain again. Is that illegal formation?

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Speaker 2: That he's trying to signal to Danny Smith. There. Danny's

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Speaker 2: so he knows what went wrong there. Oh man, that's great.

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Speaker 3: What's funny about these drills too, is they have the

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Speaker 3: gunners start like halfway downfield so they don't have to

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Speaker 3: and use all that energy, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and then they kind of just get and try.

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Speaker 2: And I think it was an illegal shift or an

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Speaker 2: illegal formation. Well, see another rep here from special Teams.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if they can get it right.

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Speaker 3: Sawyer right next to Danny too, I mean, soak it

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Speaker 3: up to no shock. But I assume that they're counting

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Speaker 3: on Sawyer being a key special absolutely, which I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's done right because as.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned, and again this is one of those I'm

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Speaker 2: sure most of our listeners know this, but not everybody

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Speaker 2: does that. He was a five star Ohio State re

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Speaker 2: quick time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe his freshman year he did a little teams maybe,

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Speaker 2: and then after that it was like, all right here,

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Speaker 2: you're barely gonna leave the field for for our bucket.

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Speaker 3: That was just an undetermined part of his resume.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was kind of like how you were

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Speaker 2: explaining yesterday when we had a few minutes of Terry

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Speaker 2: McLaurin conversation. Yeah. Yeah, he was not Jeremiah Smith or

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Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison junior who walked right onto campus and into

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Speaker 3: That was like the best receiver in the room, loaded

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Speaker 2: Terry mcclauran had to scratch and claw and play teams

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Speaker 2: and then get to the point where he was a

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Speaker 2: regular receiver for Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: But wasn't His play now even reflects that. You know,

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Speaker 3: he is not a diva Trott there.

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Speaker 2: He'll go out there and put his put his face

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Speaker 2: in the fan for you. Absolutely no more news on

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Speaker 3: Haven't heard any rumors about him or Parsons or anything

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Speaker 3: But the punt thing was probably the hardest thing, right

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Speaker 3: He could have been like a woah, right, yeah, it

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Speaker 2: Shrug thanks guys. Yeah, cool. You know, Iceman, he's Iceman.

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Speaker 2: That's the exact exact way to put it.

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Speaker 3: Emotional up and down.

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Speaker 2: You could have never tell told that he just had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, walk out there, swing your leg, go back to the.

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Speaker 3: That it's almost a red flag if you're kicker. Is

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Speaker 3: Similar mechanics, a similar mindset, and they have more time

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Speaker 2: Know, struggles to keep their arms straight while they're swinging back.

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Speaker 3: I bet eighty to ninety of kickers that have been

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Speaker 3: He played played shortstop in like left field, ate up

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Speaker 2: So he's whipping that thing to you.

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Speaker 3: Oh, slits his wrists and it's like a nine thousand

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Speaker 2: Team Period. Rolling on in front of US. Darnell Washington

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Speaker 2: That's hard to deal with. And that's the stuff We've

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Speaker 3: think he is. I'm not applying he is, but too unique.

438
00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 3: Players like him give defensive coordinators nightmares, you know, just

439
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 3: I'm not used to preparing for somebody like that. I

440
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,600
Speaker 3: know Patrick orccard from with the Ravens never catches a

441
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 3: pass or he touches the ball like three times a

442
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 3: year at most. He's a guard, but he's still a

443
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 3: pain in the butt to deal with because he's three

444
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 3: hundred pound guard that's in the backfield called a fullback,

445
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 3: that's an eligible player you at least have to account for.

446
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 2: It.

447
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 3: Takes a lot of practice time and physicality to deal

448
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 3: with these guys that are just real different and really

449
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 3: big or unique.

450
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 2: A lot of time in those meetings making sure you're

451
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,320
Speaker 2: all on the same page right, making sure your communication

452
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,640
Speaker 2: is crisp throughout the game. Yeah, you're looking for matchup

453
00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: cards that you can that you can play, and we're

454
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 2: hoping that those those tight ends are certainly one of

455
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:03,880
Speaker 2: those for the offense here.

456
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're one of these edge guys and your job

457
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 3: is cover him. You start retreating a little bit thinking

458
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 3: he's gotten his route, then he flattens you on your heels.

459
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: You know, you need to keep people on is with

460
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 3: him catching these short balls or middle of the field

461
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 3: stuff and using that size, he's to be highly capable.

462
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 3: And I mentioned, you know, more red zone targets. Just

463
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 3: notice that they have thrown in the ball in camp

464
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 3: more in the end zone, not running into the end

465
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,120
Speaker 3: zone in the end zone. And even like that play

466
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: we just saw. If it's first and ten and you're

467
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 3: gonna give me five for yards on a little just

468
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 3: spin out boom Rogers gets in the ball, I'll take

469
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 3: second and five all day long, you know, Oh totally.

470
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 3: Then you're to make somebody tackle him, which is no fun.

471
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: Last year, second and five would have been a very

472
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: welcome development right points throughout the season. And yeah, and

473
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 2: you have Darnel Washington run guys over a few times

474
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 2: and the next time he you know, and gay steps

475
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: back like he's about the pass pro and whoops ss

476
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 2: right around you exactly leaks out for a fifty twenty

477
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 2: yard game in a first down. Yeah, I am optimistic

478
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna see a lot of that this year. I too, too,

479
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: More team period rolling on in front of us, as

480
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,399
Speaker 2: it looks like. Now we've got Skyler Thompson and some

481
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: more of the threes and twos.

482
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's got a lot of death guys getting

483
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 3: a lot of quality.

484
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: Reps guys checking in here now.

485
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 3: And frankly, I mean a practice like this will go

486
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 3: a long way to who are we going to give

487
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, third quarter, second half reps? In Jacksonville? Yeah,

488
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 3: like all these position coaches have some work to figure

489
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 3: out of There might be two or three guys in

490
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 3: your defensive back room that don't see the field at all.

491
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: You know, like, I'm not even gonna bother putting him

492
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 3: out there. He hasn't shown me much. I don't know

493
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: much about him. I think it's so much to go around,

494
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: or they just get like one series at the end,

495
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 3: right right, What a disheartening feeling if you're the guy

496
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 3: in here doing the best you can, but you're clearly

497
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 3: like the last guy in the room and you don't

498
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 3: even get to put something on tape. And that happens

499
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: a lot. Oh, they don't know you anything, No.

500
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 2: They don't. And as you've mentioned, like they try do

501
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: right by the guys here in camp and give them

502
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: all an opportunity to even if it's not going to

503
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: be here, to get some tape and some things out

504
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: there for potential opportunities across the rest of the league.

505
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: But that also can only go so.

506
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: Far if Yeah, it's not charity time.

507
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: It's not charity time either. Exactly right, exactly right. As

508
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 2: let's see here, the Marvin leal in along the defensive

509
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: line looks like hy a black I think, yep, I'll

510
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: tell you what that's. That's a beefy in tier. It

511
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: puts the line there with those three.

512
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 3: Doesn't look like he lost thirty eight pounds, but he's

513
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 3: a big thick dude for Hoko.

514
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: He sure he was really large one and I think

515
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: he could still plug the Titanic. But yeah, we'll have

516
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: to wait and see Connor Hayward moving in motion here.

517
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: Skyler Thompson takes the snap in a nice pass downfield,

518
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: good pitch and catch there as the offense matriculating their

519
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 2: way down the field for a little bit. That will

520
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: do it for this team period. Matt as the sun's

521
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 2: back out here. It was he had some cloud cover

522
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 2: for a little for a few minutes.

523
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: But it's not hot hot.

524
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 2: It is not hot hot No, certainly, but it's it's

525
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: I think ideal weather for for exactly right. Coach would

526
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 2: like it to be about ten degrees.

527
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: Hotter out there and sweltering.

528
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 2: Exactly right. It looks like they are going to switch

529
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: sides here now and resume more team.

530
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 3: Now, we'll get ones out there.

531
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's stay here because we'll have some we'll

532
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: have some one on one, well, some ones on one's action,

533
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: not one on one action. It's team period. You get

534
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying there, one's the ones yes before Yeah,

535
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: the Steelers legends. So I'm sure I'm sure him and

536
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 2: Max will be having some fun conversations about favor.

537
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, super smart Northwestern guy. Yeah right, he's got a

538
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 3: great reputation.

539
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't he's stayed in the football realm since he resied.

540
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: You know.

541
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does me stuff and I want to say

542
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: I forget. I think he's done a bit of raves

543
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, you know, yeah, him and him and

544
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: Willie Cologne. I know, Max, I was like seeing those

545
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: guys and picking their brains, you know, particularly.

546
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun for Max two when someone comes

547
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: to visit you, you know.

548
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: The best, just the best. And again those guys all

549
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: have that type of bond and camaraderie with their former

550
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: former teammates.

551
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: But just coming in there untouched just like a horse.

552
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 3: Yeah no, but that is pretty awesome.

553
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: And but I think especially when you win a Super

554
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: Bowl or too, like those guys did, like there's that

555
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 2: whole kind of band of brothers camaraderie amongst amongst football

556
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: players again all the time across the league, but I

557
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: think when you are champions together multiple times, like like

558
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: Max was with a lot of those guys, that's even

559
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 2: that's even to another level to get back together with

560
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: your with your boys.

561
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 3: And I forget the TJ. Watt quotes, but I think

562
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: they were from a year ago. He was kind of

563
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: getting recognized as one of the all time great Steelers,

564
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: and you know, people were very complimentary about him, as

565
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 3: they should be. I think if you're looking at the

566
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: best Steelers ever, put the pads on. Watt's moving up

567
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: that list at a rapid rapid pace, you know, and

568
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: with all respect to the many you know that came

569
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 3: before him. There's a bazilion. But he's the first one

570
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: to say, like they're in an fraternity. I'm not. You know,

571
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 3: those guys have rings, and you know I walked past

572
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: those trophies every day and I haven't contributed to one

573
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: of those yet. You know that doesn't He can say

574
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: what you want about sack numbers and Pro Bowls and

575
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: all that stuff, but it'd be nice to him to

576
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 3: be a band of brothers with Cam and you know

577
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: whoever else that are. You really get that? Yeah, that

578
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: the greats before them did.

579
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: I completely agree with you on that, and that's why, like,

580
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: I know you have done that. You did like a

581
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: top twenty five Steelers of the twenty of those I've done.

582
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah that was recent, and you had TJ

583
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: number one.

584
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: Number one, right, including Ben, including Troy. I mean, I'm amazing.

585
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: You've got a lot of pushback on that, like how

586
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 2: can you have TJ when he hasn't won a Super Bowl?

587
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: All right?

588
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: But I mean his individual really good, undeniable.

589
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: Like I get that a lot with Antonio Brown, and hey,

590
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: I love Swan and Stalwarth and Hines Ward as much

591
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: as the next guy. Don't get me wrong, but to me,

592
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: and I know this ruffles feathers, but I think Antonio

593
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: Brown is pretty clearly the best dealer wide receiver it

594
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: ever lived.

595
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: I think he's one of the best in league history.

596
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: Right and where the other guys are great, and two

597
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 3: of them are in the Hall of Fame. I don't

598
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 3: think Ward ever will, but he's gonna be close. But

599
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: the immediate pushback is what ab ever win? You know,

600
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: Swana Stalls won four US six and I have no

601
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: rebuttal for it. But I'm not going to say he

602
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: is a lesser player than them because of it, or

603
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: you know Watts, I have a rebuttal for it. Yeah.

604
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: Eli Manning won two Super Bowls, Dan Marino one zero,

605
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: So you're telling me you want Eli Manning.

606
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 3: Right right, there's an eight million examples of that, right,

607
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: But that and.

608
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: I get it. When you're talking greatness with athletes, you

609
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: have to bring up championship. It's part of the conversation.

610
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: Like Marino would be higher on most Peele's list he

611
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 3: just had one, just get one.

612
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: He'd be mentioned with all the you know, the Brady's

613
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: and the Mannings and the l Ways and the Roethlisbergers

614
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: and thes and.

615
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: And I don't think he's quite that level. But if

616
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 3: Jim Kelly wins one of those four, yeah, it's a

617
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: whole different feel to him.

618
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: That's a great point.

619
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure Jalen Hurts will ever go down

620
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: as one of the greatest quarterbacks ever, but he can

621
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: check that box. And he was great in the super

622
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: Bowl loss at the you know, the Super Bowl loss

623
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: that the Eagles had, you know, I mean when you're

624
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: comparing Lamar and Allen and and those guys, we know,

625
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 3: one of the guys from this era other than Mahomes,

626
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: got one.

627
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: You know, he's the only one. So yeah, and you

628
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: know you referenced that that that quote of of TJ

629
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: about you know, kind of wanting to get into that fraternity.

630
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 2: And it's like, I still remember being at I was

631
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: like doing the the and some of the engineering stuff

632
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: at Kevin Colbert's retirement press conference and those things. You know,

633
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: those things are always really cool. Like I bet they're

634
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: emotional all that stuff, sure, But when Kevin got the

635
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: most emotional was when he was talking about you know,

636
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: when I got here. He's like, you look out in

637
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: the hallway now and you walk in and there's six

638
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: Lombardies every day. Yeah, you know, when I got here,

639
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: there was four and we all and that's that's when

640
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: he started to kind of tear up. He's like he's like,

641
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: you know, I I knew the task that DMR brought

642
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: me in here for, and you know, and then he

643
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: obviously gets emotional talking about d m R. Who had

644
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: who had passed away a few years prior. And that

645
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: was a nice, nice read there by Will Howard. But

646
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: basically that was the thing that got Kevin Colbert the

647
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: most emotional in his retirement press conference was I knew

648
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: the task when I got here. It was to add

649
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: Lombardes to that hallway, and we were able to accomplish

650
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 2: ador for the team, from the Rooney family, for the

651
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: city family.

652
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: Like and I did.

653
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. I think of the famous

654
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember.

655
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 3: This a hard time by Jarvis Jones, but I got

656
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: your two trophies, you know what I mean, exactly exactly.

657
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Right, And like I still remember Mike Tomlin. I think

658
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: in his second year with the Steelers, before he had

659
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: won a Super Bowl as the head coach of the Steelers,

660
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: there was some Willie Parker was coming off of, you know,

661
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: leading the league and rushing like he had won the

662
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: rushing title the year before. But the Steelers were changing

663
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: some things up offensively to try and be a more

664
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: complete unit, you know type thing. And I remember Mike

665
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: Tomlin was asked about, You're having success as an offense

666
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: and as a team, but Willie Parker's rush numbers aren't

667
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: quite the same as what they were. And Mike Tomlin said,

668
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: every day I walk into the office here, I walked

669
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: past five Lombardi's, not five rushing titles. I'm trying to

670
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: do it. I'm trying to do what I can to

671
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: add another Lombardi here, not to get us another rushing

672
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: title and lead the league in rushing.

673
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: You know, I'm talking about Barry Foster's rushing title the

674
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: mid eighties or whatever, right, quite the same as they

675
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: are of you know, beating the Rams and the four

676
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowls.

677
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: So that's that's a onus for everybody. And and as

678
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: you mentioned, TJ obviously realizes that he knows what matters

679
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: in this organization.

680
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: And say this organization knows and understands it as well

681
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: or better than any you know.

682
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: When I first got the Philadelphia in twenty sixteen, Matt

683
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: and started working with the Eagles, and now things have

684
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: changed there, right. Oh yeah, the organization. Nine years later,

685
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: the Eagles are viewed much differently than they were ten

686
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: years ago. Ten years ago, they were viewed as a

687
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: good organization who just could never get over the hump,

688
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: and was, you know, kind of unlucky in that regard.

689
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: I remember when I got there and I went to

690
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: their practice facility for the first time for you know,

691
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: shows or whatever we were doing, and They've got all

692
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: these division champion banners hanging on the wall, all these

693
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: NFC champion banners hanging on the wall, and no Super Bowls.

694
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you go around Pittsburgh, you don't see

695
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: division banners hanging up on the wall, you know what

696
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean.

697
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: So I think it was Mike Pursuit of the other

698
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: I know it was him, but I think he was

699
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: talking about Duke basketball. We were all sitting at the

700
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: local watering hole. We were at Sharkey's, and he said

701
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: the first time he walked in that arena, he was

702
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 3: blown away because I don't even think they put ACC

703
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: championships up. You know, it's just like national championship, National championship,

704
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 3: Final four.

705
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: You know, I probably at least final four.

706
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, but the standard of a banner

707
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: that goes on those rafters. Isn't like, ah, we made

708
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: the Sweet sixteen twice, or we came in second in

709
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: the ACC or whatever. It's like they were all big

710
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: time banners.

711
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah know what I mean, that's exactly right. And that's

712
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, that's one of those fruit you walk in like, Wow,

713
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to be really good if I want here. Yeah,

714
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: you want to. You want to be a legend at

715
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: Alabama on the gridiron, You're gonna have to do some winning. Yeah,

716
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: Duke or North Carolina or Kansas, Kentucky, one of those

717
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: places in basketball, You're gonna have to do some winning.

718
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: Uh TJ knows that. All these guys know that. That

719
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: permeates the organization, the fan base, everybody involved. And I

720
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: always say this, you'd much rather have to be that way.

721
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: You much rather have to be that way than like

722
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: you be the.

723
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: Most example, maybe we won seven or eight.

724
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: We went to seven to nine, and people thought, this

725
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: is the man we are doing right, we are he

726
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: was like they were ready to throw us a parade.

727
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: They thought that was a great season.

728
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: Like the Cardinals fan base right now is super excited

729
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: because they're starting to show a little signs of life

730
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: with the new coaching staff and looking like a five

731
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: hundred ish team, and it's a lot better than it's been, you.

732
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: Know, and we can see the other side of that

733
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: to Matt, because before we go to break here, you know,

734
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: jacked up this town would be if the Pirates want

735
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: a division title, rights and T shirts everywhere because they

736
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: have done it in thirty three years, thirty.

737
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: Four years, expectations and you know, right, exactly.

738
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 2: Right, we'd all be if the Pirates you know, won

739
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: one hundred and two games and we're in division champions

740
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: if they won these But if the Yankees do it

741
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: or the Dodgers do it, it's like cool, Go go

742
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 2: get me a banner, Go get me a pennant, Go

743
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: get me a World series.

744
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: You complain about how they're getting the playoffs every year

745
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: and they lose the first round. You know, Hires gotten

746
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs the first round here and gotten lost in

747
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: the first round. You'd be thrilled.

748
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: You'd be like, all right, that was a lot of fun. Yeah, uh,

749
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: team period over some moving and shaking going on in

750
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 2: front of the teams. I think more special teams here.

751
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: Good time to take a break will bring you the

752
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: end of practice and some final thoughts as we close

753
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,080
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754
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,240
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755
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,080
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756
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,320
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764
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Little special teams period in front of us. Here, we're

765
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: going to see the lefty Ben Sauls try and nail

766
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: some here. Derek Harmon was chirping in his ear too

767
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: here a second ago, and oh, oh fake, never mind,

768
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: they're working on fakes. How about that Cam Johnson to

769
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: the house.

770
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: How about that? Okay, I thought we were.

771
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: Gonna get to see Ben Sauls try and knock down

772
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: like a fifty some yarder here, but instead.

773
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: Hey, they got things to work on.

774
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: A nice meeting of the minds over on the far

775
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: sideline there, Charlie Batch was chatting with mister Rooney and

776
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: Omar Kahan. That's one of those I would love to

777
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: be a fly on the guess there's not a wall

778
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: out right right buzzing buzzing around and listening to what

779
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: those those men all had to say as special teams.

780
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: Period is now over, so maybe we'll get another team's period.

781
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: Practice teams and then probably wrap it up.

782
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 2: Yep, as we're getting close to that two hour mark,

783
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: not quite but approaching that to hour.

784
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: I've been using their minutes though they have two and a.

785
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: Half is the maximum, and they certainly used all of

786
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: that on Thursday, yes, and they certainly used all of

787
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: that on last night at Friday night lights here. Today

788
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: we'll see how long exactly things will go, but we

789
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 2: will have at least one more team period here. It

790
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: looks like potentially, although I don't know, maybe they're breaking

791
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: off into do individual stuff.

792
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we might get getting a longer practice

793
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: and suspected because there's definitely gonna be some one on

794
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: ones or skeletons some sort down here to the right.

795
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that the big guys are lining up

796
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: to do here.

797
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, offensive linemen look like they're working on some stuff.

798
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: D Line is over on the sideline, far sideline.

799
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: This is going to be seven stuff seven seven, yeah, which.

800
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: Could which could be some fun here. Pat Fryarmouth see

801
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: if he's gonna put on a show.

802
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: For us and youth and Hayward is your tight ends yep.

803
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 2: Cole Hulcomb lined up on mouth Hayward in motion.

804
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: Mason think that's probably Johnny Smith if he was out there,

805
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 3: you know.

806
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph with with Jalen Warren to his left, he

807
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: steps backfires, went down field, broken on nicely there by

808
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: Chuck Clark off his fingertips, but able to break that

809
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: one up a times since he has he has and

810
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: it's like he's been running with the ones. He's running

811
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: twos and even the threes a little bit.

812
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: I think he'll play every game day and be in

813
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 3: the mix and right be your third safety. And you're

814
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: pretty comfortable with that from what I've seen. He's had

815
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: a good career.

816
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 2: He has.

817
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has got long arm, pretty thickly built, can

818
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 3: play free, you can play slot, can play strong.

819
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: Six years with the Ravens two. You know, knows the division, yeah,

820
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: and knows the rivalry, the rivalry, and just like he

821
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: knows what the Pittsburgh Steelers are certainly.

822
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, he plays some really good players in Baltimore, you know, yep.

823
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Mason Rudolph barking some signals to the left, he

824
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: gets the snap, it looks to the right for mouth

825
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: coverage by Slaves, Yeah, just the mouth. Able to use

826
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: his frame and like you mentioned, shoulder road and he's

827
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: able to use his body and in the space and

828
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: what would have been a nice pick up there for

829
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: the Steelers.

830
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Has been a tough cover all day.

831
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: He has he has as Caleb Johnson checks in, Roman

832
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: Wilson checks in as well too. Still looks like the same.

833
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: I hope Roman's breaking out. I mean, it's it's early

834
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: to get that way, but I think that there's some

835
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: optimism around him right now.

836
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: Yes, And let's let's see it in pads tomorrow as

837
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: well too.

838
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll see him against Jalen Ramsey and Pat like

839
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: legit hard things.

840
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: You know, it'll be Caleb Johnson to Mason's left because

841
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: now he will once again communicate with Connor Hayward and

842
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: take the snap. He's looking right, He's got mooth that way,

843
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 2: room with Wilson that way well wide back of the

844
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: end zone. Finally found some a little little slow developing there,

845
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: but found Heyward in the back of the end zone.

846
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: It was like two seconds later than he should have

847
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: let that one fly, but he wasn't looking that way.

848
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: And they will have a look like some some changes

849
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: here for the offense at the wide receiver position. Looks

850
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: like the two's will heading there.

851
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 3: Darnell's staying out there.

852
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: Darnell's staying out there, Robert Woods.

853
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: Rock Taylor, Caleb staying out there, and.

854
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 2: Brandon Johnson, I believe as well.

855
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what this group of wide receivers order is.

856
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: You know who are they the highest on the non

857
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: guaranteed to make the team type guys? You know, yes,

858
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: And that's how measure with Metcalf not available today.

859
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: Think that's what we're trying to find out. Before we

860
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: got Jacksonville right, Darnold Washington in motion from left to

861
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: right as the ground shakes here at Saint Vincent College.

862
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: Still Caleb Johnson in the backfield, with Mason Rudolph. He'll

863
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: take the snap, he will look right, throws right that

864
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: one fingertips should have been caught by Kashawn Williams, undrafted

865
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: rookie out of I You.

866
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: I wonder if that's a play design for Metcalf because

867
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 3: it was kind of two guys clearing out and then

868
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: you come against.

869
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: That underneath stuff that you've talked about before that Traditionally,

870
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: that wasn't DK Metcalf's game when he came into the league.

871
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: But it's really been a skill set that he's developed and.

872
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: He's going to have to develop it here. I mean,

873
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: he was near the bottom of the league and like

874
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: inbreaking routes every year in Seattle, but something I've been

875
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: watching since he's been here, I mean, he's a good

876
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: slant route runner. I think he's definitely working on those

877
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: type of thingsposed to the vertical stuff, the horizontal stuff,

878
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: I guess the best way to put.

879
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: It, yes, yes, yeah, I think there's this kind of

880
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: perception that he can move, but that he turns like

881
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: the Titanic and that's just not a bad.

882
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 3: Three cone drill. And you can understand that part of it.

883
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: But it's better now than when he was an ole miss,

884
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: no doubt, you know.

885
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: No doubt. Mason looking again well covered absolutely finally late

886
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: in then there.

887
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely still better to throw it than chuck it

888
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: in the seats or whatever.

889
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the offensive line in front of us, I think

890
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: they're just working on some instruction from Pat Meyer. Doesn't

891
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 2: look like anything to the timing and some communication stuff

892
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: as it looks like Will Howard will now check in

893
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: for the offense.

894
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: We kind of mentioned him, but there was a play

895
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: last segment when we were on where it's a Reid option.

896
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 3: He kept it and ran, you know. And he's not

897
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 3: a bad athlete. He runs well, he's not Michael Vick.

898
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not elusive, but he will get what's

899
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: there and more. He runs like a four to six,

900
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: you know, So he's not just a pocket passer, traditional

901
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: big guy, you know.

902
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no doubt. And that was it was a

903
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: nice read by him, nice scoot by him, and would

904
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: have been a good pick up in a live action

905
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 2: as he now throws for the back of the end zone,

906
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: just a little too high for Sewan Williams. Beanie Bishop

907
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: also good coverage. Yeah, I think he's another one too, Beanie.

908
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: I felt a noise late.

909
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: And you know this too as a fellow WU guy.

910
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: Like in the back of my mind the first few

911
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: days of practice, I was like, man, Beanie's awfully quiet.

912
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: He's not getting a ton of rep. There's a lot

913
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 2: of attention being paid to the d backs out there

914
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: right and.

915
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: He's a lot of corners ahead of them right now.

916
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he has been, but I think over the

917
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: last two or three days he's really started to stand out,

918
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: which is, hey, you need options there behind your your

919
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: big name corners.

920
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: So that's good to see and unfortunately for Kent, but

921
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: maybe fortunately for someone from others, looks like he's gonna

922
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 3: be fighting a little bit of an injury here for

923
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: a while, and it actually might work out well for

924
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 3: Kent in the long run.

925
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: Wide open darkness, ie double move there by Darnell to

926
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: get past to Marvin Leone.

927
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 3: That's pretty nimble for a big guy.

928
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: Sure, that's hard for any fellow big man to cover.

929
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 3: Or what I'm saying about Kent, like seventh round pick,

930
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: he certainly has trade. Small school guy. If he's going

931
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: to miss extended time, maybe he ends up on IR

932
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: or something like that, and then you bring him back

933
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 3: next year and say, Okay, you've been sitting the meetings

934
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 3: all year, and you know you might have a tough

935
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: time making the team this year, but next year you're

936
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: probably gonna be more valuable to us. And in the meantime,

937
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: maybe Bishop makes a team when he wouldn't have, you

938
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean. There's always a ripple effect.

939
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: No, there always is. Still Will Howard working. He's now

940
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: got kind of gain well next to him looking that

941
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: way game nice smooth running those routes out of the backfield.

942
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just kind of moves like a slot receiver

943
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: at times. He does shifty and quick little feet.

944
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see to see what he's gonna get

945
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: this year, how he looks, the type of role that

946
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: he plays. I think we'll see him used a lot

947
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: in the passing game out of the backfield.

948
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: He's not the biggest guy, and but he's had some.

949
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: He's had some really nice uh some really nice routes

950
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 2: and reps here.

951
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: Today he has the feet just keeps standing out to me.

952
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 3: Those quick pitter patter, short stride you know, electric.

953
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: Feet, moves well in tight spaces missing a phone booth

954
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: type right, Yeah.

955
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: Some burst, but no, the routes are nice.

956
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: They certainly are. Will bring a couple more of these

957
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: reps here before we get to our last break of

958
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: the three o'clock hour. Still will Howard, he's looking towards

959
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: Scotty Miller now scanning the middle of the field well covered,

960
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: and he will finally Roman Wilson dive in towards the

961
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: corner of the end zone. But I don't think he

962
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: was able to survive.

963
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 3: The count that as a touchdown. They'd have been really

964
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: lating it down.

965
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, big crowd down there in the end zone today.

966
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: Is a huge crowd on campus today, Matt. This is

967
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: one of those days. I'm glad that, like we're here,

968
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about getting to and from campus.

969
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's gonna be a little crowded.

970
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: I'll give you another funny story. When I was leaving

971
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: the lunch room today, the officials were walking out, okay,

972
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 2: and there were some state troopers walking in for lunch.

973
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: So I was behind the officials as the state troopers

974
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: were walking in, and the officials kind of stopped and

975
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: they and they looked at the at the at the

976
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: officers and they were like, Hey, how's the traffic out there,

977
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: and the cops were like, not great. Why And they

978
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: were like, and this was probably twelve forty fivesh okay,

979
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: so maybe like like an hour a little a little

980
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 2: over an hour seventy minutes away from practice starting, and

981
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: the officials are like, how's the how's the traffic out

982
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: there today? And the officers were like pretty brutal, like

983
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: it's crazy out there, this is this is one of

984
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: the craziest we've seen it. And then the referees were like,

985
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: do you think we have time to run back to

986
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: our hotel?

987
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably the Palmer one you watch it. It was.

988
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: They were like, we're stayed at the airport right across

989
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: the street. And the officers were like, I don't know,

990
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: you'll still be cutting it tight trying to get over

991
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: there and back in an hour.

992
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would not be easy.

993
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: But it was. It was that type of day here

994
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: on campus, and uh.

995
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: There was a nice day to be in the don with.

996
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 3: It was just get up and brough to bed and

997
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 3: didn't go anywhere.

998
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: I drove back here this morning because I went home

999
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: last night just to just to see my girls for

1000
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1001
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: But I can't.

1002
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I left my house at like eight fifteen,

1003
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: got back here like nine thirty ish, So that was

1004
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they were superfre were there were obviously already

1005
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: a few dozen cars out there, but it wasn't which.

1006
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: Is pretty nuts in its own right.

1007
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't gridlock that it was right you know around

1008
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: around noonish when people really start piling up for practice

1009
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: and everything, and we see it. I mean there's car

1010
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: is parked everywhere we look. There's cars and people.

1011
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you showed that picture to start to show, you know,

1012
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: the people, all the parks, cars in the grass, and

1013
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: I mean it's there's not enough spots.

1014
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It is how it all comes together here

1015
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: the hillside's packed, and hey, that's what you always know.

1016
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: Steeler Nation is gonna show up. That's that's just a given.

1017
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: But it's still impressive every time we see it happen.

1018
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Let's get to our last person of the second hour here,

1019
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: bonus hour. On the other side, final thoughts from practice.

1020
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: We got to get into some of those sack numbers

1021
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: and statistics that Matt wants to follow up with on

1022
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: our conversations from earlier in the week. We got to

1023
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: go around the NFL plenty to get to in the

1024
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 2: final hour of the program, Well Shuler, Matt Williamson here

1025
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: at practice at Saint Vincent College High above chuck Nollfield.

1026
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: It's all part of our training camp coverage. Sure camp

1027
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: coverage ongoing here on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

1028
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,600
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