WEBVTT - Ep. 66: 300 McLargemouth Happy Meals

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that's a lot of large amount sandwiches for

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<v Speaker 1>the bag lunches. You know what I'm saying. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just caught a freaking carp. I just caught a

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<v Speaker 1>cart I'm gonna give you about four to six years,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna have some severe gastro intestinal distress. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have some big issues. I know. I laughed, like

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<v Speaker 1>George McFly. That's fine, man, laugh with me, laugh at me.

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<v Speaker 1>All that matters to me is that you're laughing and

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<v Speaker 1>having a good time while you are listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bent podcast. Good morning, degenerate anglers, and welcome to Bent,

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<v Speaker 1>the fishing podcast that has finally decided who will be

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<v Speaker 1>it's full time co host, it's new wingman in piscatorial debauchery,

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<v Speaker 1>and a person I can make do stuff I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like doing. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Hayden Samic

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<v Speaker 1>as our new co host. You got the job. You

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<v Speaker 1>got the job, buddy, dude. I am so so happy

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing this. And you know, I've maintained since

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<v Speaker 1>day one that this is my favorite Mediator Network podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really genuinely mean that, and like, as a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of this podcast. I hope that I could bring

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<v Speaker 1>to the table the kind of stuff that I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to hear and and I know you will, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've been you've been sort of like this

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<v Speaker 1>this like you know, floating guests. But now, dude, you

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<v Speaker 1>you own this too. And we've already talked about some

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<v Speaker 1>ideas to bring to the table in the future that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super pumped about. And if I apologize if I

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<v Speaker 1>sound less enthusiastic, but like I'm fighting a cold. I

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<v Speaker 1>told you, don't ever have a kid, don't ever put

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<v Speaker 1>them in daycare. You will be sick for months. But

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<v Speaker 1>I I am. I am really pump man. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>I've been dying to analysis. I've sort of known it

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while. And I would also like to

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<v Speaker 1>to remind everyone that early on right, I told listeners

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<v Speaker 1>that I was I mean, I was listening right and

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<v Speaker 1>to please weigh in on who they thought should grab

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<v Speaker 1>the co host chair, and nobody got more votes than

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<v Speaker 1>you did. Man. Like, ever since our Halloween show, I've been,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, I've been overwhelmed with notes and d M

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<v Speaker 1>saying like we've really been enjoying Hayden and he should

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<v Speaker 1>be the guy, and I couldn't agree more. Um, you've

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<v Speaker 1>you've definitely resonated with with the degenerates. Uh and from

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<v Speaker 1>the start, what Yeah, what mattered most to me was

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<v Speaker 1>how much fun you've been having doing this, Like that's important,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you gotta you gotta be having a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've truly embraced it, nailed everything I've thrown at

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<v Speaker 1>you past every test, and um, I know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a blast. I'm really pumped. And I also I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to say I cannot thank everyone who guest

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<v Speaker 1>co hosted over the last month and a half enough. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fair amount of work. It's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a grind, but everybody, all my my buddies stepped up. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been good times. But I'm really excited to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to having like a full time partner in crime,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, And Joe, I'm excited to be that

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<v Speaker 1>partner in crime man. You know, I hope I do

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<v Speaker 1>right by all degenerate anglers the world over. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say again I'm super excited. Gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a blast. Yeah, man, and you will. So let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>do this. Let's let's publicly air out what you are

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<v Speaker 1>bent benefits package includes because I've already arranged for you

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<v Speaker 1>to get some some gear from our wonderful sponsors thirteen Fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you want an ice stuff, right, so perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>you'll even get a selection of ice lores such as

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<v Speaker 1>the Bernie. Have you seen that. It's like the it's

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<v Speaker 1>the little stone fly imitation and I know it's for ice,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could do nasty ship with that on a

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<v Speaker 1>fly rod. You could one crush fish with that on

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<v Speaker 1>a fly rod. Like I have a soft spot for

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<v Speaker 1>small soft plastics, like in general, because I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like catching like pan fish off the dock and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is nothing better than a little jighead one

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<v Speaker 1>of those, and like some four pound tests man, you

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<v Speaker 1>can crush croppy all day long. Um, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna order a handful of those and actually try them

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<v Speaker 1>out on one of our local rivers out here in Bozeman,

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<v Speaker 1>because I I do believe that you really could crush

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<v Speaker 1>with those on a fly rod. Well, I already I

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<v Speaker 1>already know from certain sources who will go on named

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<v Speaker 1>that you can crush on your rivers with a trout magnet,

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<v Speaker 1>So I know you'll be able to crush with this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well have you? I also like those uh what are they?

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<v Speaker 1>The bamff soft plastics? Dude, those things just look so

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<v Speaker 1>darn buggy. Yes, yes, those and the coconut crab. Will

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<v Speaker 1>will arrange all that because I know you you mess

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<v Speaker 1>some things up in the rivers and on the hard

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<v Speaker 1>water out there. This year. Also, right as the new

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<v Speaker 1>co host, you get to contribute to the Bent Spotify playlist,

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<v Speaker 1>which hasn't come up in a while, but it's following

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<v Speaker 1>continues to grow. So what a great opportunity to remind

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<v Speaker 1>you guys that it exists. It's got like eighteen hours

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<v Speaker 1>of tunes for degenerates on it, handpicked by me and

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Malty, a few of our guests and now Hayden,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta say, man, I I strongly admire your selections.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit unexpected, so it's like an unexpected vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a good vibe, right yeah, man Um, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interested to see what our listeners think about

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<v Speaker 1>these selections. You know, I don't personally, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're like that out there or anything, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them have like sort of like a

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<v Speaker 1>different flavor. Like the playlist is a little schizophrenic in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, but that's just me. That's actually the perfect way,

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<v Speaker 1>that way to put it. But I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>good thing. It's totally schizophrenic. It's all over the place, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what makes it so great, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't know what's coming up next when you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're, you're running on you know, shuffle with that one. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's see, So what did you add? So Hayden

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<v Speaker 1>added cal Girl in the Sand by Neil Young and

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy Horse right, no issues with that Sunday Morning by

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<v Speaker 1>the Velvet Underground, who I also happened to be a

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<v Speaker 1>big fan of Finger by Thy Siegel, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>it's great tune. I didn't know that. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that artist. I didn't know that guy. Uh yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>then two tracks from Nick Cave in the Bad Seeds,

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<v Speaker 1>which is badass and prompted me to then at another

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Cave track, um, that being Red right Hand, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is the song that is playing when Jim Carrey

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<v Speaker 1>loses his wallet in the Porno Newspaper machine while carrying

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<v Speaker 1>the beer and pin wheels and wearing the giant cowboy

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<v Speaker 1>hat in Dumb and Dumber. So that's playing like just

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<v Speaker 1>before he gets robbed by the swede old lady on

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<v Speaker 1>the motorized card and bam, Nick Cave hit the big

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<v Speaker 1>time right there man with that scene right there? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so one more edition? Is you right? So when when

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<v Speaker 1>we did your first news segment, I said we were

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<v Speaker 1>we were kindred spirits because we both grew up playing music.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, sadly nothing I ever did is on is

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<v Speaker 1>on Spotify, which it's probably a good thing, um, But

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<v Speaker 1>but you are okay. You you went by dead Fellow

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<v Speaker 1>right and you wrote and produced everything right, um. And

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<v Speaker 1>the song we put on the playlist is is Machine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I gotta say it. It's awesome, dude. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got a very dark ib that's great. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know musicians hate when people compare their music to other ships,

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<v Speaker 1>so I won't. I won't let people form their own correlations.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's really good, um. And you have far more

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<v Speaker 1>talent than any band that that I ever played in

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<v Speaker 1>no it is. I mean I played chugg a chuggle

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<v Speaker 1>punk music and then like you know, screaming stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>uh in college. And I also point out that this

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<v Speaker 1>was my idea. Hayden, you did not, like want a

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<v Speaker 1>plug for your music here. I was the one that insisted, so, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not vain. I was like, no, no no, no, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to put this in there. Um. And you also

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<v Speaker 1>told me that that song ended up in a movie

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<v Speaker 1>starring Shila Buff. What is that about? I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>loved him in holes, you know, well this was a

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<v Speaker 1>departure from his roll in holes. Um. First, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to I need I need to qualify a few things here.

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<v Speaker 1>For one, Uh, you mentioned that nothing you ever did

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<v Speaker 1>is on Spotify, but but my stuff is. It is

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<v Speaker 1>very easy to get on Spotify. You just pay a

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<v Speaker 1>distributor like forty bucks and boom, it's there forever. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not it's not like people think that it's like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on Spotify. It's like, oh, it's pretty easy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So this movie starring shy La Buff was a film

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<v Speaker 1>called The Tax Collector and it was so bad. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even watch the whole thing. And my song was

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<v Speaker 1>in it. And this is a direct quote. Variety described

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<v Speaker 1>it as about as much fun as having your face

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<v Speaker 1>dragged across asphalt from a moving suv. It got a

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<v Speaker 1>ninetent on Rotten Tomatoes. Shy was dominated for a Razzi

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<v Speaker 1>Award for the Worst Supporting Actor as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>this effort. So yeah, it wasn't the big break I

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping for, but it was indeed in uh In

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<v Speaker 1>in a movie, so that was pretty darn cool. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like now I have to watch it. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to look up the tax Collector and oh Man anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>so you guys can find the link to the Bend

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<v Speaker 1>Spotify playlist in my Instagram. Buyo. Perhaps Hayden will link

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<v Speaker 1>that now too, um So, And then we're gonna move

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<v Speaker 1>on to one more thing we have to do to

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<v Speaker 1>make you official, um and that is have you be

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<v Speaker 1>the victim of an awkward moment in angling. Right before

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<v Speaker 1>you're allowed to make fun of other people's horrid fishing photos,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get trashed. I did it, Miles did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're up. So let's haze. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an unconventional awkward moment in angling because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not totally a phishing photo. But I think it

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<v Speaker 1>may be one of the most interesting shots that we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever had. Like looking at it, you have to know

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<v Speaker 1>the story you're dying to know the story the second

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<v Speaker 1>you look at photo. Yeah, I could see how it

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<v Speaker 1>would peak one's interest. So here's what we got. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>why I'll pique your interest. This is a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>a photo, or to be more specific, it's a photo

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<v Speaker 1>of a flyer tacked up outside the front door of

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<v Speaker 1>a little live music joint in Philadelphia was called Connie's

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<v Speaker 1>Rick Rack. Now, I was not familiar with this place

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<v Speaker 1>until Hayden brought this up. Um, for anyone that just

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be, you know, fluent in the Philly music scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to play at the Kill Time and Club HP,

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<v Speaker 1>which stood for Club Higher Power back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and and that meant they were a straight edge

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<v Speaker 1>establishment that we didn't know that and gotten all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of trouble for drinking in the parking like we were

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<v Speaker 1>those guys like Higher Power. Oh I get it, hide

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<v Speaker 1>that beer anyway. On this flyer, there are three head shots,

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<v Speaker 1>all of Hayden. The top looks as though it was

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<v Speaker 1>taken at a formal event, like a graduation, perhaps because

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<v Speaker 1>just you always see a little bit, but it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like you're like there's a dress shirt collar in the

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<v Speaker 1>shot like you're spiffed up. Yeah, that was at my

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<v Speaker 1>That was at my buddy Marvin's wedding. There, there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>Marvin's wedding graduation. So we got we got that one.

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<v Speaker 1>The next one is you in a wool hat looking

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<v Speaker 1>like a scruffy musician, and there's there's nothing too odd here,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, was your hair highlighted? Do I detect some

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<v Speaker 1>sun in in those flowing locks in that shot? Another

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<v Speaker 1>stute observation. I had recently had my hair super long,

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<v Speaker 1>and I forget what the genesis was, but it got

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<v Speaker 1>bleached all white. Um, I don't really have an excuse

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and what you're seeing is the remnant of

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<v Speaker 1>it growing out after I had cut it off. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna I'm not making as much fun of you

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<v Speaker 1>as you think I would be, because I dyed my

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<v Speaker 1>hair blonde in high school and like early college years,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was still wearing like the sweatshirt with the

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<v Speaker 1>study it was that was there you go, there you go? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? But then right moving on the last photo

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<v Speaker 1>chosen for this trifecta is you with extra long hair

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<v Speaker 1>winging out from under yet another wool hat. There's water

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<v Speaker 1>behind you, and you're biting a fly rod and you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the the frowned upon rod bite, which we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about many times here on bench. So where was this taken?

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<v Speaker 1>So that was taken on the Salmon River, and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to say that this was in the days before

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<v Speaker 1>that had like become a kind of meme. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely didn't have any where to I was waist deep

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<v Speaker 1>in the Salmon River. My buddy was taking the photo.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no place to hold that fishing rod, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was holding a big old steel head. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured there was a fish in the shot, but

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<v Speaker 1>we don't see that. It is just souper resumed in teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>hair and cork. Oh yeah, this is not This is

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<v Speaker 1>not a photo meant to identify a fish. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a photo, as we're going to learn. Right, So now

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<v Speaker 1>we understand the three photos on the flyer outside the door.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's what the flyer says, right, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>all written crudely with a sharpie at the top in

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<v Speaker 1>huge letters. It reads, this dude is all caps banned

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<v Speaker 1>for life from Connie's rick rack. Under that, it says,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning colon, he's not allowed in the building, Ever and

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<v Speaker 1>ever is underlined. So what the actual hell is going

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<v Speaker 1>on here? Okay? So you know it was, this was

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<v Speaker 1>back in my musician days, and I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>say that I did nothing wrong. What what had happened?

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't like I got like too drunk at a bar.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't like I started a fight. What had happened was,

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of my musical career, I would hit

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of open mics, as a lot of songwriters

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<v Speaker 1>are wont to do. Um. It turned out that Connie's

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<v Speaker 1>rick Rack I would hit that on Wednesday night. So

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<v Speaker 1>my thing was I would go to Linckety Split on Tuesday's,

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<v Speaker 1>Connie's rick Rack on Wednesday's Wooly Mammoth on Thursdays. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I play shows Friday Saturday, and I take Sunday Monday off. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was at Connie's rick Rack every Wednesday night and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a bartender there named Carla. Now Carla was

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<v Speaker 1>about my age, and a lot of the folks in

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<v Speaker 1>like that particular songwriters scene, we're kind of older. So

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<v Speaker 1>in between like me going up and playing my like

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<v Speaker 1>three songs that week, I'd hang out the bar and

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Carla. Now, I didn't have this person's

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<v Speaker 1>phone number, I didn't have their Instagram. I wasn't friends

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<v Speaker 1>with him on Facebook. Just somebody that I would see

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday nights because she happened to, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>be pouring the drinks. Yeah. Well, it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>this was the owner's girlfriend and he thought for some

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<v Speaker 1>reason that I was coming there every week to talk

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<v Speaker 1>with her. Now, I don't know why he didn't put

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<v Speaker 1>it together, like, oh, Wednesday night is open mic night,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the night that I see this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're saying is it never dawned on him

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<v Speaker 1>that you were a person up on stage there every Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy was not a genius um the So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean one day I showed up there and I

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<v Speaker 1>played a song and I got down and I go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bar and this dude, who had been my

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<v Speaker 1>friend up until that point, just like started like cussing

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<v Speaker 1>me out and you know, told me to leave. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I was like, that's weird, and I left. I

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<v Speaker 1>just figured the dude had had too much to drink. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he thought that I was like a legitimate threat to

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever he had going on, and uh, banned me

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<v Speaker 1>for life. And actually this poster didn't come into being

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<v Speaker 1>until like two years after the fact, when I had

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<v Speaker 1>messaged this guy and been like, hey, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you're good. I hope everything's cool. You know, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>really like to come back and uh and play at

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<v Speaker 1>Connie's or like hang out because my friend had been

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<v Speaker 1>having his first show ever there and I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sneak into this bar without dude. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't go to support you, boy, Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>right right, So I wanted to you know, if the

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<v Speaker 1>guy didn't want me in the bar, I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go there. So I was like, maybe I can

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<v Speaker 1>just bury the hatchet with him and then I'll go.

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<v Speaker 1>And that dude told me to get bent, and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that was the response to the response to the

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<v Speaker 1>make good text was throwing the poster up two years later. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>oh dude, he's bitter, right, that's so whatever. Yeah, well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean so, but under the photos, get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the poster. Under the photos, it says your name,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like Hayden Samic and there's a bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>blacked out. What is blacked out? Can you tell me

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<v Speaker 1>what has been blacked out? Come on, No, it was

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<v Speaker 1>clearly done in photos shop later. What's been blacked out? Um? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>at the very bottom of this, there's a quote that reads,

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<v Speaker 1>because I said so dash dud okay, yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So what what I love about this is I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they're there are three very different photos and that

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<v Speaker 1>was strategic because they were sort of going to showcase

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<v Speaker 1>all the faces of Hayden. He did, right, So in

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<v Speaker 1>case you walked it looked spiffy, you'd be recognized. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you came in in a tuxedo, would be like, Bam,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the guy. If you walked in just looking scruffy

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<v Speaker 1>with a guitar case, they know that was you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fully understand the inclusion of the fly rod shot,

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<v Speaker 1>Like was that in case you walked in in Jess waiters,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And like, where did where

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<v Speaker 1>did dude get all these photos from? Well? He lifted

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<v Speaker 1>them from Facebook, and uh a bunch of folks did

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<v Speaker 1>suggest that I should walk in holding a fly rod

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<v Speaker 1>in my mouth to see if I immediately got booted

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<v Speaker 1>totally totally Like had this been me, damn right, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have walked in there with a fly rod in

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth, just to be an ask, just to prove

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<v Speaker 1>a point. Um, but you said so the place is

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<v Speaker 1>closed now, but the band had never been lifted before

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<v Speaker 1>it was closed. No, no, Ben never ever got lifted.

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<v Speaker 1>And hey man, some people just want to live like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's up to them. Well, there he go, there he goes.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got We've got plenty more awkward outs from

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<v Speaker 1>you guys in the pipeline, but we always want more.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you've been banned from the Quickie Marter tackle

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<v Speaker 1>Shop or Golden Crawl and have a makeshift mug shot

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<v Speaker 1>flyer to prove it, please do send it along to

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<v Speaker 1>Bent at the mediator dot com, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden will now be checking as well. You know, well, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, I'm pretty glad that that's over. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'll be able to find another awkward moment. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take you somewhere in the future. Look, I have

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<v Speaker 1>more too, But all right, it's all about the fans man, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to see more awkward photos of me. So

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fan stuff, But um, I should put

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<v Speaker 1>myself on the chopping block. You're good for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>at least, like you've it's only right that I get

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<v Speaker 1>to that I get to crucify you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>on one of these awkward moments in the future, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>consider it. But you're you're good for a little while,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've already been cut down once today, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's actually see if I can do that again, though

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<v Speaker 1>in a different capacity, in that weekly competition we call

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<v Speaker 1>Fish News Fish Noon. That escalated quickly before we dive in.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say thank you for all the b side

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<v Speaker 1>love that I got this week. Right, It's safe to

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<v Speaker 1>say that the vast majority of you enjoyed my ode

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<v Speaker 1>to American Chad. My favorite comment was that shad row

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<v Speaker 1>and eggs is last meal on death row. Good, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, well, well I don't know about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely liked it, right, I will. I will eat that

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<v Speaker 1>again next spring. I also had a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 1>reach out asking for recommendations on where to go and when,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very cool, Right, I'm always happy to provide that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see how much of that I get after today's show. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Episode two drops at one pm Eastern eleven Mountain on

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<v Speaker 1>Meat Eaters YouTube channel. Um, and I'll tell you right now,

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<v Speaker 1>this was my favorite one. Right We're chasing the the

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<v Speaker 1>very scorned snakehead in Virginia with my buddy Grant office

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<v Speaker 1>uh And I won't spill all the means, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was like the pinnacle of seven years of snake heading

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I won't soon forget this trip. Dude. It

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<v Speaker 1>just looked like you were having again. I was granted

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<v Speaker 1>a sneak peak of of this episode of B Side,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, you just looked like you were having such

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. Grant seems like an awesome dude. The

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<v Speaker 1>fisheries seemed awesome. You know. You could just tell that

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<v Speaker 1>you were truly stoked to be on this trip. He's

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<v Speaker 1>dialed and this is sort of like, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, growing up with with stock trout and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get your first taste of Montana, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like we were in like what i'd consider mecca,

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<v Speaker 1>the mecca most hardcore and it's site fishing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love site fishing, you know. Um, really fun one, really fun. Yeah. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>And not not to spoil anything, but I'll tell you what, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you were not fishing from doss boat. No. No no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no grant uh Now we were not in a tin can.

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<v Speaker 1>We were in quite the fishing machine man, which was

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<v Speaker 1>part of the fun. Ye. Speaking of fun, onto fish

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<v Speaker 1>News For those of you who don't know, fish News

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<v Speaker 1>are weekly segment where Joe and I bring two stories

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<v Speaker 1>to the table and our judge on our journalistic skills

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<v Speaker 1>and story selecting abilities by none other than Filled the Engineer.

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<v Speaker 1>I went first last week, So Joe, this week, you're up.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, I am. I also hope um Phil enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>my earlier reference to dumb and dummer. He's a huge fan,

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<v Speaker 1>knows it like the bass of his fan anyway. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so here's here's a live one. We can have some

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<v Speaker 1>fun with this one. Right here, Grab your jitterbugs and

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<v Speaker 1>some meat eater mermaids tried and spice blend. Let's throw

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of large mouth on the barbie. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>This comes from the Tampa Bay Times headline Florida seafood

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<v Speaker 1>markets to offer farm raised large mouth bass. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems simple and straightforward enough, but it's actually rather controversial.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's let's just talk about bass on the table

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. Right to sort of set this up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Eating large mouth is it's one of those

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<v Speaker 1>weird things, right. I I think it's fair to say

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<v Speaker 1>that for most die hard bass anglers, it's it's blasphemy. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're the guy spending thousands on bass tackle, running

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<v Speaker 1>around a glitter boat and so on, you probably don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear about eating a large mouth. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that attitude is somewhat unique to the bass world.

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<v Speaker 1>And by that I mean you can be nuts for

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<v Speaker 1>stripers or catfish or salmon or walleye, spend loads of

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<v Speaker 1>money on boats and tackle, but you're not weirded out

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody eating those things, even if you don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you don't keep all of them, you know

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<v Speaker 1>it might it's it's not uncommon for you to take

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<v Speaker 1>some of your favorite species for the table now and again.

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<v Speaker 1>But this isn't the case for the average bass guy,

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<v Speaker 1>which sort of supports my theory that that bassard just

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<v Speaker 1>put on a pedestal they don't fully deserve to be on.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I say that because what we tend to

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<v Speaker 1>forget is that large mouths are America's fish, because anyone

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<v Speaker 1>from any walk of life can catch them, right A shiner,

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<v Speaker 1>a bobber and a lawn chair will will catch you

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of bass. And if you look to

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<v Speaker 1>the South and parts of the Midwest, there are lots

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of people that target large mouths just for food.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot more people eat large mouth than many of

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<v Speaker 1>us realized. In fact, my boy Jared Serenier, who just

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<v Speaker 1>co hosted last week, he and his buds in Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>regularly drop large mouth filet's in a little red gravy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's sauce, sauce. Yeah, it's very well. They

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<v Speaker 1>call it gravy down there too. I'm my Italian. I

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<v Speaker 1>say sauce here from p A. What do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Um So anyway, according to the story, large mouth will

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<v Speaker 1>now be available in Florida's seafood markets thanks to a

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<v Speaker 1>law pass last spring that says any species of fish

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<v Speaker 1>that can be successfully raised in legal aquaculture facilities in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida are fair game to be sold as food, and

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:58.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, lots of bass are raised in Florida now.

0:24:58.640 --> 0:25:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Per the story, this led sgislation was passed purely for

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>economic reasons. It says large amounth bass are valued at

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 1>five dollars and seventy five cents a pound, which is

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 1>an increase since wait wait wait wait wait yeah, wouldn't

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>that put him it like thirty cents a pound? And well,

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I I think I think what they're driving at here

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>is that in that time span they've become people have

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 1>become more interested in them as a food fish, you

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like it's it's a little hazy,

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you that. It also says D and nine

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:38.160
<v Speaker 1>five farms that produced bass for food I'm assuming outside

0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 1>the state of Florida, right, made seven million dollars on

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>bass alone now right in Florida. Large amounth bass is

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 1>a restricted species protected from becoming a commercially harvested commodity.

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Snook and redfish also fall into this category. And while

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>we don't have time to give the whole backstory on that,

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>suffice it to say that that redfish very well could

0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>have been wiped out in many parts of this country

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>had they not been given these really strict, hardcore protections.

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>So right, So what's the big deal if all these

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>bass for sale are coming from an aquaculture facility. First,

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>it creates more paperwork and headache for the Florida Fish

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and Wildlife Commission because now they have to develop a

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>policy to allow for farm raised bass sales. But here's

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:28.359
<v Speaker 1>what FWC Oxford Commissioner Gary Lester also had to say.

0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>He says, I don't think we should do this. Yes,

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>we do have an aquaculture industry. We have a lot

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 1>of fish and a lot of jobs in it. But

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the largemouth bass has a special iconic place in our

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>state and in our economy, right, you know, not to

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>feed into a particular narrative that's been you know, uh

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>propagated by certain members the bent community. But yeah, you

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>know what, this reminds me a lot of what this

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a state trying to decide like whether or

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>not it should grow pot Like just like looking around

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the other day, it's like, wow, they're kind of getting

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of money from this. Maybe you're not wrong.

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I see the similarity. Man, you you're you're you're right on. Uh.

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>So here's here's the thing, right, FWC, they've expressed two

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>main fears. Um, it's also kind of ties into what

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you said now that you've made the comparisons, Like all

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I can see, Um, the FTBC has expressed two main

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 1>fears about the selling of farm raised bass. The first

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>is that the wild Florida strain bass is special and

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>iconic and an economic driver, and if any of these

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 1>farmed bass ever escaped into the wild, that could compromise

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the genetics of those famous Florida strain bass. The other

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>fear is that if the selling of farm bass proved

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>super profitable, commercial fishermen will pressure legislators to open up

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>harvest of wild bass, which I'm sure they're They're already

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>incidentally finding their way into the nets of commercial to

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>lopia fisherman and cat fisherman and bream fisherman down in Florida. UM. Now,

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>what the story correctly points out is that a fear

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of disrupting the ecosystem with a non native species of

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>large mouth is pretty weak, because and I quote, a

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 1>fishing trip to any freshwater body south of Orlando will

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 1>produce armored catfish from South America, Mayan cicklids from Central America,

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>oscars from Africa, and snakeheads from Southeast Asia. They have

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>already been reports of fifty pound pacus and six ft

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>long Arab pima's floating up in the St. Lucy and

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Caloosa Hatchie rivers, respectively, So I tend to agree with that, right,

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like it's already overrun with invasives, right right. Well,

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>And there's kind of an interesting note about this. I

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>was listening to the Orvis fly Fishing podcast with with

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Tom and uh Me and Tom are on the First

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Name Basis Now he was interviewing a dude named Steve

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Ramirez who has like an affinity for native fish. He's

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>an author from my understanding of it, and in his

0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>quest for a a certain bass, I forget exactly which

0:29:06.840 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 1>one it is. I believe it could have been in Texas,

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>but the the genetic muddling due to strains of Florida

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>large mouths being introduced around the country as part of

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>stocking programs actually made his quest for that native fish

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>really murky. And in fact, it's almost hard to unpack

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>even with like genetic testing because like the yeah, sure,

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna get into you know, d NA science man,

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know about it. But yeah, I mean

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about some of this with like the mean

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>mouth bass and this train is that a spotted bass?

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Is it not? Is that this one? It gets it

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>gets very very muddy. But generally speaking, like my interpretation

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>UM with this, with this whole story, is that you know,

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>all all the reasons why this shouldn't be allowed tied

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>to a sort of general consensus that bass should only

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>be sport ish and nobody really eats those anyway. Like

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's sort of the undercurrent with with

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the people oppose UM. Now, like I said,

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>it is not true that nobody eats them, but I

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>would be really curious to see, like how well does

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.719
<v Speaker 1>this sell because all the people I know, and I

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 1>know a bunch that are genuinely excited to chow down

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>on bass, they I don't I feel like they're not

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 1>likely to buy it in a store like like bass eaters,

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I think are typically people all about hook it and

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>cook it, like it's the whole experience. If they go

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>out and catch their bass wherever they're going to catch them,

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to bring them home and cook them. I don't necessarily

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>see that translating to, well, they got that over at

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the stopping shop, Now I'll pick up some large mouth.

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think they go hand in hand. So

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm intrigued by the idea that selling Larry's for

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>food has worked elsewhere. I sort of want to know

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>more about that. You know. Yeah, that's like interesting to

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>me for like a couple of reasons. One, Um, it's

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>weird and it's like a provincial attitude, I guess. But

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>large mouth bass to me like don't seem particularly appetizing.

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's not because it's a bass. It's because of

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>like the kind of connotations that large mouth have. For instance,

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you called them kind of like you know, anybody anywhere

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>could catch them. That kind of implies that they live

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and maybe some not so not so clean not so

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>have you ever eaten one? I'll get to that in

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>a second. One bass that I do like to eat

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot, Maybe not a lot a lot, but when

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity presents itself, such as you know, you gotta

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>sanko like Gil hooking. One is small these man, I'll

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 1>eat like small jaws all day. But that's kind of

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the sort of bodies of water that small mouth come from. Typically. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I will tell you I have never eaten a small

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>mouth Like that's that's weird to me than large mouth.

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>But totally like if I had to pick one or

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the other. Um, small mouth come out of prettier, cleaner,

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>colder water. I've had large mouth. Um, I just I

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think it tastes like blue gill. Like

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>it's just like a bigger piece of blue gill. So

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, I don't I never thought it was outstanding.

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like, holy shit, this is out of this world.

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's just okay. But that's neither here nor there. Man,

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not coming out on anybody. You want to eat

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.480
<v Speaker 1>all the large mouth, that's fine with me. Manure in

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>all of them so there's more room for my snakeheads.

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get some heat. No, I'm not, because people

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>know I'm only kidding. Come on. Yeah. And finally, I

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>will say that I am a touch bitter about this

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>um because even though I don't think the reasoning that

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>f WC has come up with is enough to to

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>really stop this, I do applaud them for saying, hey,

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>like these are sport fish, their iconic they drive our

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>economy as a sport fish. Maybe like we we don't

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 1>really need to make them commercially viable. And and right

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>now there's no major threat that I'm aware of to

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Florida large mouth or large mouth in general. But there

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>might be. So they're suggesting, like maybe there's something here

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that we should head off at the past just in case,

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>which is commendable. But then I look at that and

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hell man, Like everyone in the striper community

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>up and down the East Coast has been saying the

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>same ship for decades. Their iconic they bring in money,

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>recreational fishing, boost the economy, and they are in big trouble.

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Yet we won't push to make them a game fish

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of states just keep commercially hammering them

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, guess what. They can be farm

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>raised too. Are the farms? Are they exactly the same

0:33:42.160 --> 0:33:44.239
<v Speaker 1>as wild call stripers? No? But I was like, if

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not good enough to go out and catch your own,

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>you can eat the farm raised. One problem solved, right,

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>So there's there's been There's been so many things over

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the years that I think the rest of this country

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 1>can learn um from how FWC has has managed and

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 1>thought about certain fisheries. There's a lot to learn there. Yeah, yeah,

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that. I think one of the things

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>that it just comes down to, honestly, is the size

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 1>of the flat. You know, I think that the reason

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that you see, you know, stripers being commercially targeted still

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 1>is because they have a big, nice filet, and it's

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>very easy for fine restaurants to sell stripe bass to

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>their consumers. I think you'd sell it, yeah, I think

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you'd have a lot harder at the time, you know,

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>picking up bass filets and turning those into something I'm

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>not saying I don't understand. I mean, let's call it

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like it is, stripers freaking delicious, Like it is, especially

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>a smaller one, right, Like we've talked about that a

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit, but like a striper out of the salt,

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>it is. It is delicious. So I understand why why

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that's so much more valuable, It has so much more appeal.

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just it breaks my heart to to to to

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>see you know, FWC like saying, hey, like come on,

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:01.799
<v Speaker 1>like these are special and iconic and they do their

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 1>own thing. It's like, I wish somebody would would would

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>take that attitude and make it matter up here. There's

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of of conservation organs that have been preaching

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that forever, but I mean, you've got to get the

0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.919
<v Speaker 1>right people behind that, you know, and it's just it's

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 1>just sort of like, Man, I wish, I wish they

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>fought here like they did in Florida for this stuff.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you know, sure do man should do and uh,

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, part of it is just looking forward to

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the next to the next generation of anglers. Speaking of

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the next generation of anglers, Dude, I gotta tell you

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:38.759
<v Speaker 1>this week on fish News, I have a story that

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>just makes me happy. Good transition, nice transition on that.

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I like that. Uh, this past Sunday, the fine folks

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>at Harbor Docks. That's a restaurant in seafood Market in Deston, Florida.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Also speaking in Florida, Harbor Docks took some kids fishing.

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And how many kids do they take fishing, Joe, almost

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:09.280
<v Speaker 1>three hundred. Oh man, that's a lot of large amount

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>sandwiches for the bag lunches. You know what I'm saying.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>You might think that, but yeah, no, it's pretty incredible. Anyhow,

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna just do like a typical fish News

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:21.280
<v Speaker 1>thing and steal all the good stuff from another article

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I found on the internet. But you know what, Joe,

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>today I didn't good. I decided, thank you, man, I

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 1>DECI had to put on my my journalist, tap and

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 1>go to the man himself. Uh, you know now responsible

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 1>for this event, the proprietor of Harbor Docks, Eddie Morgan.

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Good dude, way to get after it. You should you

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 1>should win just for making the phone call. I love it.

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 1>The phone call was easy. Man. Eddie's a super cool dude. Um.

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>But to that end, you know, I also did want

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to point out that like Eddie didn't reach out to me.

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Eddie didn't want to make this a big deal. In fact,

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 1>he's surprised that I'd heard about the event at all,

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>being that like Harbor Docks like never pursues any media

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>attention surrounding this event. And in talking with Eddie, like,

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I really got a feel for you know, this is

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>just something born out of like a genuine want to

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 1>better his community. And honestly it was like inspiring. Um,

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad there are folks like this. Yeah. So anyhow,

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Harbor Docks was founded in ninety nine by Eddie's father,

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Charles Morgan, and right from the jump, Uh, they were

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty heavily involved in their community. Um. Again, Charles Morgan,

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>Eddie's father, was particularly interested in the recreation opportunities available

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to like the local kids. So one day he decided

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to take some kids fishing, a lot

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>of kids fishing, and take kids fishing. They did the

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Harbor Docks crew at this point, dude has been doing

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:01.240
<v Speaker 1>this event for twenty seven years and have now taken

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>over seven thousand kids fishing. Damn man like, And this

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 1>has to be kept fairly quiet because this has never

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 1>come across my radar and it seems like something like

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>I would have covered at some point in my career.

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So man like, that's that's impressive for not having more

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 1>more juice. Yeah, one local business, one family decided to

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:29.240
<v Speaker 1>do this and like, that's unbelievable. Now you might be thinking,

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 1>how do they go about taking all these kids fishing?

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it Derby style and a Florida bass pond looking

0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 1>for large mouth to eat? Later? Do they run out

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to appear. Do they rent two big gas party boats

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>or something? Nope. Each year Harbor Docks gets a full

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>on fleet of destined charter cap no wayes coordination manh yep,

0:38:57.080 --> 0:39:00.160
<v Speaker 1>And these kids are like they're really fishing. Their ting

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>for mackerel, mahi banita, bottom fishing for vermillion and white

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:09.080
<v Speaker 1>snapper like they're legit fishing. Wow, dude, So they have

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>to raise money for this somehow they do, right, Like,

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't, this is not cheap, right to put something

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>like this together. They do. And I assumed that, like,

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.560
<v Speaker 1>all right, maybe they had like a coalition of captains

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 1>that like, you know, once a year like decides, Okay,

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna like eat the cost of gas and

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:28.680
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take these kids fishing. And I'm sure like

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that is true on some extent. They do have a

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>like group of repeat captains that come out and are

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>are volunteering for this all the time. They make some

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.800
<v Speaker 1>phone calls as well to get new captains into the fold.

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>But like importantly, they make sure that those charter boats

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 1>are taking care of as well by raising money through

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>things like a golf tournament and a silent auction every

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>year to get the funds to put gas in the boat.

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>And they make sure these guys are right. Wo o, man,

0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that is impressive. Yeah, I mean, it's really like an

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>amazing thing. And even better is like at the end

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>of the day, the kids make their way back to

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:13.479
<v Speaker 1>the marina for a good old fish fry and they're

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>each sent home with their very own rot and reel

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 1>to like keep the spark alive. And I just think

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it's super incredible. Man, that's incredible, dude. Like this is

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>one of those things like I hear a story like

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.399
<v Speaker 1>this and I'm like, man, I don't do enough in

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.360
<v Speaker 1>this arena, you know what I'm saying, Like this is

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 1>something that would be be fun to film or or

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 1>be a part of. Um. And you know that's that's

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 1>certainly not to take away anything. I have a lot

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>of friends and have donated a lot of stuff to

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.439
<v Speaker 1>kids tournaments all over, but like you said, the vast

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.239
<v Speaker 1>majority of them, um, you know, are small waters the

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>stocky pond or whatever it may be. And and that's

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>great man, that that's all well and good. I also

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 1>think it's funny as a dad of young kids, like

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I understand the frustration of trying to deal with them

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>at the small stocky pond. So good on everyone who volunteers,

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 1>because I have to imagine, right, it's got to be

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>kids of all ages. There's no like cut off, right, Um,

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.120
<v Speaker 1>there there is a cut off. I think it's kids

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:19.879
<v Speaker 1>from seven to thirteen. And okay, smart, yeah, okay, that's

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that's smart. And but it's open enrollment. Man, it's open enrollment.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>So I was gonna ask, how do you like, how

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:27.760
<v Speaker 1>do you get is it like first come, first served,

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>so they've they've filled their quota or do you know

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>the kids don't have to pay to be a part

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 1>of it? Right, So what happens is around October when

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 1>they I guess announced it, like the enrollment period is open.

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>The first thing that they do is they call some

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:46.279
<v Speaker 1>specific organizations, um, you know, certain types of schools, the

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Boys and Girls Club, you know, things like that, and

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they get a whole bunch of kids who are interested

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>on their roster, and then they open it up to

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like the public. And I think it does cap at

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like three hundred, but yeah, I mean it's pretty much

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 1>anybody who wants to go fishing. The other thing that

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Eddie brought up in our conversation is that Destin is

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a resort town, so there are a

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.359
<v Speaker 1>bunch of folks, you know, who are well off kind

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>of experiencing this on the regular. But what he tries

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to focus on is a lot of these like local

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 1>kids that you know, have never even seen the gulf,

0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>let alone gone out and fished it. So it's really

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a community centric thing to give opportunities to kids who

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>would otherwise never be aware of this amazing, exciting recreational

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>and you know, uh, I want to say consumptive, but

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:46.200
<v Speaker 1>this resource that that's around them, well, you know, it

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>brings up a point that it always sort of amazes me,

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and you tend to forget it. You know, like you

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and I might travel to Destin or somewhere like that

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>because we know what's there, we're so excited about it.

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.760
<v Speaker 1>But there are people who live in Montana that don't

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>go trout fish and have a means to do that,

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>even though all these tremendous rivers are in your backyard.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, you you can live in Destin and and

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that just because it's there doesn't mean you have access

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>to it, especially if you're talking about really good offshore fishing,

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>which it sounds like they're they're involved in doing so. Again,

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome to do the kids derby at the lake,

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, if you really wanna create something super memorable,

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>so you take a seven year old kid out and

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and you let him crank on a mahi, that is

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that is pretty impressive. Dude. Good on you for reaching

0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:38.360
<v Speaker 1>out to Eddie. Great story. UM, you know, my my

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>my daughter, I don't know. I don't think she would

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>want to go off shore fishing. My son would, but

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not old enough yet. Um. But this is this

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.799
<v Speaker 1>is really cool man and uh super super impressed by

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing down there. Um, well we'll see what

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 1>what impressed Phil? That was? That was pretty good, dude.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:57.319
<v Speaker 1>That was I think I'm not going to call the

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>shot or I'm not gonna nudge fill one way or

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the other. But that that's that's that That one warms

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the heart. So we'll hear from Phil, and then as

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>soon as we're done with that, we're gonna do with

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>nibbles and SIPs. We got a voice memo um about

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:17.360
<v Speaker 1>another young Ish man and um, one of his catches

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't really go. Well. Hey guys, it's Phil. I'm

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>visiting my parents has this week and didn't feel like

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>packing the fancy microphone. So I'm giving this computer the

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.719
<v Speaker 1>privilege of speaking for me. And because Hayden brought something

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that we usually never see on bent actual journalism, I'm

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>crowning him the winner this week. Good work, come shoe. Wow,

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this computer, lady is a far better speaker than I am.

0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 1>According to this list of voices, her name is Joanna. Hi, Joanna,

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 1>thanks again for helping me out with the podcast this week.

0:44:57.120 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>So are you from around here? That's fine, you don't

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 1>have to respond. You probably haven't been programmed to hold

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a conversation. If we had enough time, I would give

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you the void comp test. Do you think Deckert is

0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a replicant? Oh? You haven't seen Blade Runner? Ha ha.

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Look at me revealing my love for movies. My interests

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>are kind of my entire personality. It's what women love

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 1>about me. Okay, Well, this has been fun. When the

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:31.240
<v Speaker 1>computers eventually uprise, please remember me, because I'll never forget you, Joanna.

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:44.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I'm so lonely. I just say it is

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>a no era of loneliness. Oh god. I hinted not

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.600
<v Speaker 1>long ago that I had a carp related nibbles and

0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>SIPs entry waiting in the wings. Um, And I'd actually

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 1>call this one a bit more of like it's like

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a mini saga, okay. And it comes to us from

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Reese and it goes a little something like this.

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>My buddy and I are fishing red worms and bulworms

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>in an area, and we see this carp coming back

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and forth, back and forth, back and forth. We're catching

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>dinkers here and there. I caught a chub, caught some bass, sunfish,

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 1>and we're just catching and releasing, and we end up

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>we're about to leave. I do one last catch, trying

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to get a big bass or from what we were catching,

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:32.719
<v Speaker 1>it was probably like a fourteen ouncer. And this this carp.

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I see this carp trailing my worm, gets my worm

0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's like three ft from shore, and I hooked

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 1>the thing in the first carp I ever hooked. As

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I get it up on shore, I end up like

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 1>looking at it, looking at my buddy and like pure excitement.

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I just caught a freaking carp. I just

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 1>caught a carp and it's just funny. Here and there

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I was doing like the worst way possible. I was

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 1>like walking back, dragging it up on the shore. Well,

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I ended up while it was on the shore, tried

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:06.360
<v Speaker 1>picking it up with my rod. Well its snapped my

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 1>rod into surprisingly not the line, but I get the

0:47:11.280 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>hook off, get the fish fine. And I remember what

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you said about the one picture where like the fish

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 1>was all like messed up. It was like you could

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 1>have at least washed it off before the picture. So

0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking like, oh, no big deal, I'll wash

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it off. And I had what I thought was a

0:47:28.640 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 1>firm grip put it in the water, like instantly slipped

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>out of my hands, and that carp's gone, and I'm pissed.

0:47:38.360 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the heck? Now, here's the first

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>thing this reminded me of. Do you remember this viral

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 1>surfer interview. Dude? You got the best barrels ever, dude,

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>just like you pull in and you just get spit

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>right out of him and you just drop in and

0:47:56.520 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 1>just smacked it. Hold back, drop down. Bro. Then it

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, I was like, oh, did you ever hear

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the remix when somebody auto tuned it and set it

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 1>to music. It's phenomenal. And I know that that that

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Stephen like he didn't exactly sound like that, dude. It

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>was just sort of the flow or something. It's just

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:20.280
<v Speaker 1>what It's what popped into my stream of consciousness. Yes, yes,

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 1>So I would like to point out that, um, Steve's excitement, however,

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>it was not lost on me, no matter what else

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>we have to say about this voice memo. Right, Um,

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 1>he was stoked to catch this carp and I appreciate

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:34.840
<v Speaker 1>that greatly, But this has opened up the opportunity, I

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 1>think for a few teaching moments um that I think

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll all benefit from, first and foremost, how to avoid

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:45.120
<v Speaker 1>snapping a rock. Yeah, this is something that I can

0:48:45.200 --> 0:48:49.280
<v Speaker 1>probably stand to learn a little bit from. Tujo uh

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 1>in your in your expert expert opinion, what exactly did

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Stephen do wrong? You don't need it. You don't need

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to be an expert, all right, because he openly admits

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to dead live a carp with his rod,

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and based on the fact that that he says he

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.280
<v Speaker 1>considered a fourteen ounce bass large, I'm going to assume

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.000
<v Speaker 1>this was a fairly light rod, right, And I think

0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>most of us don need to be an expert to

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 1>know that. Um, you shouldn't try deadlifting a fish off

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:21.879
<v Speaker 1>the ground, because that's not what rods are supposed to do,

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Nor does does a dry dead lift factor in any

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>rods rating. Right. But what many people forget is that

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 1>when a rod is designed, it's engineered to only take

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:38.320
<v Speaker 1>strain from where there is a grip. Right. In other words,

0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 1>you should never choke up on a rod, blank and

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and put pressure on somewhere other than the grip. And

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:47.320
<v Speaker 1>we all do it. We all do this, but technically

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>your hands should never be anywhere except the grips. Those

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>have been strategically placed because that's where the rod can

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:57.600
<v Speaker 1>take the most strain without snapping during a fight. And

0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I think we forget that sometimes. Yeah, I've I've broken

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of rods and real stupid ways. Um, but

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of recently, like around Easter, I guess it was.

0:50:10.239 --> 0:50:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I had my like euro stick and I was trying

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to get that that tippet ring through like the last guide.

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I just did the thing where you grabbed

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the rod halfway up the blank, and I grabbed my

0:50:26.800 --> 0:50:29.200
<v Speaker 1>leader and I went to pull it, and I candy

0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:33.760
<v Speaker 1>cane the rod and it just went. It's so common.

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a mile from the truck too. Well, yeah, but

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.480
<v Speaker 1>it's so common to choke up on the blank, especially

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>um when a fishes is close to the boat or

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:46.000
<v Speaker 1>close to the net. And if you're if you're deft

0:50:46.040 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 1>about it, you will get away with that choke up often, right.

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 1>But I've broken more rods than I care to mention

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>doing that because in a moment of weakness, like if

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.480
<v Speaker 1>you just push it a little too far or at

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the at the wrong time, um, you know it's done.

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 1>And furthermore, you can have a chip or a nick

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in your blank close to the handle, close to the

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 1>thick end of the rod with a grip, so that

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:14.839
<v Speaker 1>that may never ever snap or affect that rod's performance

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 1>as long as you don't ever choke up and transfer

0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the strain to that point in the blank. So if

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you stay on the grips, like a minor chip or

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:27.640
<v Speaker 1>nick low down on the rod might never be an issue,

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. But that's what will come

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 1>back to bite you the second you choke up on

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 1>your carp you know. Yeah, yeah, And I'm constantly guilty

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 1>of that. And there's also like kind of like a

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Stees element to like that choking up a little bit,

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.919
<v Speaker 1>like you always feel like it's somehow like a finesse move,

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>like you pull it down to side pressure and you

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>choke up a little bit, and you feel like you're like, yeah, man,

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like real, like I'm playing this fish right now,

0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>like you know, people watching her like man, that guy

0:51:54.280 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>knows what he's doing. And then bam, like the whole

0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:00.800
<v Speaker 1>thing just explodes. Oh dude, it's glorified in landing shots

0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:03.440
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and stuff. You know, somebody's always choked up

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.239
<v Speaker 1>her side rod and it's like that last few seconds.

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 1>It's always on the wrong fish too. It's you don't

0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>see people choking up when they're like, you know, catching

0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>pan fish or trout. It's always like a fifteen pound

0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>steel head or like some sort of salmonoid. It's like

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a fish that you have no business playing around with

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yes, yes, now we also need to talk

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:29.720
<v Speaker 1>about the loss of this fish, because I give props

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to Steve for for trying to wash it off right.

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:34.480
<v Speaker 1>That is a pet peeve of mind that has come

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 1>up when someone postes for a grip and grin and

0:52:37.160 --> 0:52:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the fish is just covered in dry leaves and dirt, Like,

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>why bother does that bother you? That those shots have

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.440
<v Speaker 1>always bothered me. That bothers the ship out of me,

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 1>mostly because it immediately makes me think that, like one

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the dude rest of the fish to the bank didn't

0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:56.279
<v Speaker 1>have control of it. Yeah. I think a lot of

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:59.920
<v Speaker 1>my like aversion comes from like quartering out deer and ship,

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.600
<v Speaker 1>where like if you get a bunch of like grit

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and dirt on the quarters or even like a fish

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 1>that you intend to keep. You know, it's going to

0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.359
<v Speaker 1>be just a pain in the butt to get that

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 1>like looking nice and clean when you go to process that.

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:15.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, yes, and I actually know that that this pain, like,

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I know what it's like, Like you want to get

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that quick shot, but you also want to get the

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>fish back in the water quickly and unharmed, um, but

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:25.360
<v Speaker 1>but not have it covered in mud. Right, So without

0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>a landing net or lip grippers, it can be a

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:32.240
<v Speaker 1>real pain in the ass, especially since Steve's carp was green,

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.399
<v Speaker 1>like it sounded to me like it went from hook

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 1>set to flopping on the bank very quickly, you know

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So I have to imagine that fish

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:44.200
<v Speaker 1>was still hot. But Steve, you can lip a carp.

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:47.399
<v Speaker 1>People may not think about that. But they got no teeth, right,

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.840
<v Speaker 1>So don't don't they have like uh sorry, don't have

0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:54.040
<v Speaker 1>some sort of like crushers back there? Yeah, but you're

0:53:54.080 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>not gonna you're not gonna you're not gonna stick your

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 1>finger far enough back there to worry about that. And

0:53:58.320 --> 0:54:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and frankly, I'm not sure they do drum and other

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 1>things do, they must have some kind of crushers and

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 1>they need a lot of soft stuff. But still, man like,

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.759
<v Speaker 1>it's all just rubber like. If you really need to

0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:10.160
<v Speaker 1>hang on the one, don't have a net, you can

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 1>lip one. Um. But one thing people forget is that

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>carp also have a a really nasty ass serrated dorsal

0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 1>spine that will go in deep and you will not

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 1>be happy. Right. And the point being like people think

0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 1>of carp is all like dopey and squashy and rubbery. Um,

0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>if you've got a live one in your hands, that's

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that's thrashing. And forget about that spine. It can be ugly,

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>man like, it's it's it's like almost designed like a

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:40.759
<v Speaker 1>stingray barb. Yeah. Man, you know, I don't do a

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of cart fishing, but that is and by not

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of car fishing, I mean I've caught like

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:50.600
<v Speaker 1>one cart by accident. Um. You've got some great carp

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 1>fisheries out there for flying, I'll tell you right now, dude,

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>lower Missouri. Who it's good and I'll have to check

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:00.479
<v Speaker 1>them out. But the you know, one thing, one fish

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:02.719
<v Speaker 1>that I do think about that a lot with is

0:55:03.239 --> 0:55:06.280
<v Speaker 1>my favorite fish, A big old catfish. Man, they seem

0:55:06.440 --> 0:55:10.560
<v Speaker 1>like you're just gonna be big old squishy thing. But man,

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:15.319
<v Speaker 1>those spines will get you bad. And the smaller they are,

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.840
<v Speaker 1>the easier it is, and the more they hurt. You

0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:19.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. They get all dulled up on

0:55:19.600 --> 0:55:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the big, big fifty pounders. But dude, we've we've covered

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.520
<v Speaker 1>stone cats on here before and like dudes getting poked

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.200
<v Speaker 1>by it's it's horrible and try and avoid that at

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:33.839
<v Speaker 1>all costs behind the peck fins anyway, Uh, Steve, thank

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 1>you so much for the voice message. Man, we enjoyed

0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:38.840
<v Speaker 1>hearing from you. Congrats on your first carp but I

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 1>hope you're a little better prepared for the next one.

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Folding nets are cheap on Amazon, Dude, just gotta say

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that you can get a cheapy folding net for like

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks. But hey, Steve just got swagged out for this,

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to get swagged out, send a

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:53.880
<v Speaker 1>voicemamo to Bent at the metator dot com, or feel

0:55:53.880 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 1>free to d m them to me or Hayden. Now

0:55:57.200 --> 0:56:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you can now direct appropriate comments and concerns to him

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:02.440
<v Speaker 1>as well, and if you do, you might just hear

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>yourself on the show. All right, Well, after that that

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:14.399
<v Speaker 1>long introduction to my new co hosting responsibilities and our

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:20.040
<v Speaker 1>deep dive into deep pokes by carp dorsal fins, Uh, Joe,

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I regret to inform you, but I don't think I

0:56:23.640 --> 0:56:27.239
<v Speaker 1>have an end of the line quite ready yet. That's okay, man,

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I know you don't. It's all good, But I do

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:31.040
<v Speaker 1>look forward to some fresh bins on end of the

0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:33.319
<v Speaker 1>line from you. Um. I have a hunch you're gonna

0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:35.640
<v Speaker 1>lean on on flies often, so I'll be the one

0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:39.319
<v Speaker 1>that keeps talking about power bait and cherry garlic cott talks.

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll just say now, tune in next week for Hayden's

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>first end of the line But for this week, let's

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.360
<v Speaker 1>close out with a fly related tackle hack. I recorded

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:48.520
<v Speaker 1>this one a while back with my buddy Nate Simple,

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:51.200
<v Speaker 1>who's out in Wisconsin. Uh. And no matter what kind

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.160
<v Speaker 1>of fly fishing you do, this one will save your

0:56:53.160 --> 0:56:56.520
<v Speaker 1>bugs and save you some money in the long run.

0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting hats from Inside City Bike the Flood joining

0:57:04.520 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>us for tackle hacks today. My old buddy Nate Simple

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>from Tight Lions fly fishing out in Wisconsin. What's going on? Man?

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Not much, Joe, How are you doing, Man, I'm good, brother,

0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. So it's it's actually I'm excited to have you.

0:57:16.640 --> 0:57:19.960
<v Speaker 1>We have guides of of of all different ilk and milieu.

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 1>But you're a you're a warm water guy primarily write

0:57:22.760 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of small mouth muskie. That's sort of what

0:57:24.760 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you do the most. Yeah, yeah, absolutely so and and

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 1>and you do it. You're a fly fisherman, your fly

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>guide above all else. So, I mean, I feel like

0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>this side of fly fishing is growing so much lately,

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:37.919
<v Speaker 1>like so many more people year of a year get

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.600
<v Speaker 1>interested in the smallmouth game and the warm water game.

0:57:41.160 --> 0:57:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Um that I'm pumped to to have a tip from

0:57:42.920 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a guy who like lives, eat, sleeps, and breathes those

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of fisheries. So what do you got, man? Make

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 1>us better at what we do? So this is this

0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>is kind of a simple one, and it's kind of

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a silly one, and sometimes sometimes they are so um,

0:57:56.120 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 1>all of us being unfortunately in some cases online shoppers

0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 1>now and getting a lot of our things online. We

0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:06.160
<v Speaker 1>get you know, whether it's a backpack or a fishing

0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:08.480
<v Speaker 1>pack or a pair of boots whatever, And they come

0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:12.240
<v Speaker 1>with the little silica packets in there. Save those suckers

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and throw them in your fly box. I eat them

0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>when they come in the beef Cherokee packs. I'm not

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:20.560
<v Speaker 1>supposed to do that, Joe. I don't think that's gonna

0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you about four to six years, and

0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have some severe gastro intestinal distress. You're gonna

0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>have some build Yes, I think they grow to their

0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:32.440
<v Speaker 1>like those animals that you throw in the water as

0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 1>a kid, orbies those things. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, but no,

0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 1>they work fantastic and like a lot of us, now

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>myself included, are are going to you know, these these watertight,

0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>waterproof fly boxes um from a variety of manufacturers, because

0:58:48.680 --> 0:58:51.439
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, especially in the warm water thing like

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:53.800
<v Speaker 1>some of these muskie flies, some of these bass flies

0:58:53.800 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 1>were running four or five bucks on the low end,

0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the way up to twenty dollars on

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the high end, and the last water with all that material, right, absolutely, yeah, yeah,

0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, you know, my my first piece

0:59:05.080 --> 0:59:07.919
<v Speaker 1>of advice that I always heed myself and and tell

0:59:07.960 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 1>clients as well as you know, find a phone patch,

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>find something. If nothing else, just let the suckers sit out,

0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, on the side hatch, let them dry out

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 1>good and throw them back in the box. But sometimes, hey,

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.880
<v Speaker 1>where fishermen should happens, you know, it gets wet, your

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.320
<v Speaker 1>boxes are sitting in water or whatever. And and those

0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.440
<v Speaker 1>things that there could be a real life saver because

0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 1>not all the hooks that we're using our stainless they're

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:31.080
<v Speaker 1>not all nickel plated whatever um, and those things in

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 1>there actually do a shockingly good job of sucking up

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that little bit of moisture and saving you a hell

0:59:35.040 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of money. It's a great tip, dude,

0:59:37.360 --> 0:59:40.240
<v Speaker 1>because they actually make things like try to sell you

0:59:40.320 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>little things to put in your tackle boxes that do

0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 1>this right. We spend a lot of money on these

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 1>fly boxes that are supposed to let air in and out,

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:51.240
<v Speaker 1>so that doesn't happen. It's questionable whether they all work.

0:59:51.680 --> 0:59:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Yet you're right, throughout a given year, we get so

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>many of those little silica PACs for free and toss them.

0:59:58.080 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 1>So that is a money saver in the long run,

1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 1>especially like I said, if you're tying, if you're tying

1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>or fishing with a twenty muskie fly, yeah, oh yeah,

1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 1>that thing out of there and it's like dry, rotten

1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:12.040
<v Speaker 1>and rusted. You just that that that'll make a guy

1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:14.840
<v Speaker 1>want to throw up straight there, there you go, There

1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you go, beef jerky fans, eat your jerky, save your

1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:26.560
<v Speaker 1>muskie flies. Appreciated, brother, That was a great one. So

1:00:26.800 --> 1:00:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that's it for this week. Rather than my my normal recap,

1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I just want to thank everyone that guest co hosted

1:00:32.080 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>with me over the last few weeks. Once again, it

1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was very fun. But I want to reiterate that I

1:00:36.680 --> 1:00:39.479
<v Speaker 1>couldnot be more pumped that Hayden is joining me full time.

1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Here's to all the fun that we're gonna have going forward. Man,

1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a blast man. And uh, I just

1:00:45.600 --> 1:00:48.960
<v Speaker 1>want to say, I know I laughed like George McFly.

1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:55.400
<v Speaker 1>That's fine, man, laugh with me, laugh at me. All

1:00:55.400 --> 1:00:57.280
<v Speaker 1>that matters to me is that you're laughing and having

1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a good time while you are listening to the Bent podcast.

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Right on, man, right on. Remember keep those sale ban items,

1:01:04.520 --> 1:01:07.280
<v Speaker 1>bar nominations, awkward photos, voice memos, and all that good

1:01:07.280 --> 1:01:10.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff coming to Bent at the Meat Eater dot com.

1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Listen to the Bent Spotify playlist. Dead Fellow, that's Hayden's

1:01:13.520 --> 1:01:16.040
<v Speaker 1>jam is on there now. And keep using those degenerate

1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on Instagram. And one more

1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:23.560
<v Speaker 1>thing to the guy who commented and said that I

1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.720
<v Speaker 1>sound like a Turkey slate call when I laugh, I

1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:28.080
<v Speaker 1>think you're calling turkeys a wrong