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Speaker 1: But this isn't the case for the average bass guy,

423
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: which sort of supports my theory that that bassard just

424
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 1: put on a pedestal they don't fully deserve to be on.

425
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: And and I say that because what we tend to

426
00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: forget is that large mouths are America's fish, because anyone

427
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 1: from any walk of life can catch them, right A shiner,

428
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: a bobber and a lawn chair will will catch you

429
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: a whole lot of bass. And if you look to

430
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: the South and parts of the Midwest, there are lots

431
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: and lots of people that target large mouths just for food.

432
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: A lot more people eat large mouth than many of

433
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: us realized. In fact, my boy Jared Serenier, who just

434
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: co hosted last week, he and his buds in Louisiana

435
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: regularly drop large mouth filet's in a little red gravy. Okay,

436
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's sauce, sauce. Yeah, it's very well. They

437
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: call it gravy down there too. I'm my Italian. I

438
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: say sauce here from p A. What do you know?

439
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: Um So anyway, according to the story, large mouth will

440
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: now be available in Florida's seafood markets thanks to a

441
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: law pass last spring that says any species of fish

442
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,959
Speaker 1: that can be successfully raised in legal aquaculture facilities in

443
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: Florida are fair game to be sold as food, and

444
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: of course, lots of bass are raised in Florida now.

445
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 1: Per the story, this led sgislation was passed purely for

446
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: economic reasons. It says large amounth bass are valued at

447
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: five dollars and seventy five cents a pound, which is

448
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: an increase since wait wait wait wait wait yeah, wouldn't

449
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: that put him it like thirty cents a pound? And well,

450
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: I I think I think what they're driving at here

451
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: is that in that time span they've become people have

452
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: become more interested in them as a food fish, you

453
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like it's it's a little hazy,

454
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. It also says D and nine

455
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: five farms that produced bass for food I'm assuming outside

456
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: the state of Florida, right, made seven million dollars on

457
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: bass alone now right in Florida. Large amounth bass is

458
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: a restricted species protected from becoming a commercially harvested commodity.

459
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: Snook and redfish also fall into this category. And while

460
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: we don't have time to give the whole backstory on that,

461
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: suffice it to say that that redfish very well could

462
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: have been wiped out in many parts of this country

463
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: had they not been given these really strict, hardcore protections.

464
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: So right, So what's the big deal if all these

465
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: bass for sale are coming from an aquaculture facility. First,

466
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: it creates more paperwork and headache for the Florida Fish

467
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: and Wildlife Commission because now they have to develop a

468
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: policy to allow for farm raised bass sales. But here's

469
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: what FWC Oxford Commissioner Gary Lester also had to say.

470
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: He says, I don't think we should do this. Yes,

471
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: we do have an aquaculture industry. We have a lot

472
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: of fish and a lot of jobs in it. But

473
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: the largemouth bass has a special iconic place in our

474
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: state and in our economy, right, you know, not to

475
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: feed into a particular narrative that's been you know, uh

476
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: propagated by certain members the bent community. But yeah, you

477
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: know what, this reminds me a lot of what this

478
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: sounds like a state trying to decide like whether or

479
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: not it should grow pot Like just like looking around

480
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: the other day, it's like, wow, they're kind of getting

481
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: a bunch of money from this. Maybe you're not wrong.

482
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: I see the similarity. Man, you you're you're you're right on. Uh.

483
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: So here's here's the thing, right, FWC, they've expressed two

484
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: main fears. Um, it's also kind of ties into what

485
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: you said now that you've made the comparisons, Like all

486
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: I can see, Um, the FTBC has expressed two main

487
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: fears about the selling of farm raised bass. The first

488
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: is that the wild Florida strain bass is special and

489
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: iconic and an economic driver, and if any of these

490
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: farmed bass ever escaped into the wild, that could compromise

491
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: the genetics of those famous Florida strain bass. The other

492
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: fear is that if the selling of farm bass proved

493
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: super profitable, commercial fishermen will pressure legislators to open up

494
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: harvest of wild bass, which I'm sure they're They're already

495
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: incidentally finding their way into the nets of commercial to

496
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: lopia fisherman and cat fisherman and bream fisherman down in Florida. UM. Now,

497
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: what the story correctly points out is that a fear

498
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: of disrupting the ecosystem with a non native species of

499
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: large mouth is pretty weak, because and I quote, a

500
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: fishing trip to any freshwater body south of Orlando will

501
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: produce armored catfish from South America, Mayan cicklids from Central America,

502
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: oscars from Africa, and snakeheads from Southeast Asia. They have

503
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: already been reports of fifty pound pacus and six ft

504
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: long Arab pima's floating up in the St. Lucy and

505
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Caloosa Hatchie rivers, respectively, So I tend to agree with that, right,

506
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's already overrun with invasives, right right. Well,

507
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: And there's kind of an interesting note about this. I

508
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: was listening to the Orvis fly Fishing podcast with with

509
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: Tom and uh Me and Tom are on the First

510
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Name Basis Now he was interviewing a dude named Steve

511
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: Ramirez who has like an affinity for native fish. He's

512
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: an author from my understanding of it, and in his

513
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: quest for a a certain bass, I forget exactly which

514
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: one it is. I believe it could have been in Texas,

515
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: but the the genetic muddling due to strains of Florida

516
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: large mouths being introduced around the country as part of

517
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: stocking programs actually made his quest for that native fish

518
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: really murky. And in fact, it's almost hard to unpack

519
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: even with like genetic testing because like the yeah, sure,

520
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get into you know, d NA science man,

521
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: because I don't know about it. But yeah, I mean

522
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: we've talked about some of this with like the mean

523
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: mouth bass and this train is that a spotted bass?

524
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: Is it not? Is that this one? It gets it

525
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: gets very very muddy. But generally speaking, like my interpretation

526
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: UM with this, with this whole story, is that you know,

527
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: all all the reasons why this shouldn't be allowed tied

528
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: to a sort of general consensus that bass should only

529
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: be sport ish and nobody really eats those anyway. Like

530
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: I feel like that's sort of the undercurrent with with

531
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the people oppose UM. Now, like I said,

532
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: it is not true that nobody eats them, but I

533
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: would be really curious to see, like how well does

534
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: this sell because all the people I know, and I

535
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: know a bunch that are genuinely excited to chow down

536
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: on bass, they I don't I feel like they're not

537
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: likely to buy it in a store like like bass eaters,

538
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: I think are typically people all about hook it and

539
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: cook it, like it's the whole experience. If they go

540
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: out and catch their bass wherever they're going to catch them,

541
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: to bring them home and cook them. I don't necessarily

542
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: see that translating to, well, they got that over at

543
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: the stopping shop, Now I'll pick up some large mouth.

544
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: I just don't think they go hand in hand. So

545
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm intrigued by the idea that selling Larry's for

546
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: food has worked elsewhere. I sort of want to know

547
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: more about that. You know. Yeah, that's like interesting to

548
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: me for like a couple of reasons. One, Um, it's

549
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: weird and it's like a provincial attitude, I guess. But

550
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: large mouth bass to me like don't seem particularly appetizing.

551
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: And that's not because it's a bass. It's because of

552
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: like the kind of connotations that large mouth have. For instance,

553
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: you called them kind of like you know, anybody anywhere

554
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: could catch them. That kind of implies that they live

555
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: and maybe some not so not so clean not so

556
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: have you ever eaten one? I'll get to that in

557
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: a second. One bass that I do like to eat

558
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: a lot, Maybe not a lot a lot, but when

559
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity presents itself, such as you know, you gotta

560
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: sanko like Gil hooking. One is small these man, I'll

561
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: eat like small jaws all day. But that's kind of

562
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: the sort of bodies of water that small mouth come from. Typically. Yeah, yeah,

563
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: I will tell you I have never eaten a small

564
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: mouth Like that's that's weird to me than large mouth.

565
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: But totally like if I had to pick one or

566
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: the other. Um, small mouth come out of prettier, cleaner,

567
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: colder water. I've had large mouth. Um, I just I

568
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it tastes like blue gill. Like

569
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: it's just like a bigger piece of blue gill. So

570
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I don't I never thought it was outstanding.

571
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't like, holy shit, this is out of this world.

572
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: To me, it's just okay. But that's neither here nor there. Man,

573
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm not coming out on anybody. You want to eat

574
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: all the large mouth, that's fine with me. Manure in

575
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: all of them so there's more room for my snakeheads.

576
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna get some heat. No, I'm not, because people

577
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: know I'm only kidding. Come on. Yeah. And finally, I

578
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: will say that I am a touch bitter about this

579
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: um because even though I don't think the reasoning that

580
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: f WC has come up with is enough to to

581
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: really stop this, I do applaud them for saying, hey,

582
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: like these are sport fish, their iconic they drive our

583
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: economy as a sport fish. Maybe like we we don't

584
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: really need to make them commercially viable. And and right

585
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: now there's no major threat that I'm aware of to

586
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: Florida large mouth or large mouth in general. But there

587
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: might be. So they're suggesting, like maybe there's something here

588
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: that we should head off at the past just in case,

589
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: which is commendable. But then I look at that and

590
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, hell man, Like everyone in the striper community

591
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: up and down the East Coast has been saying the

592
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: same ship for decades. Their iconic they bring in money,

593
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: recreational fishing, boost the economy, and they are in big trouble.

594
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Yet we won't push to make them a game fish

595
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: like a bunch of states just keep commercially hammering them

596
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: and um, you know, guess what. They can be farm

597
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: raised too. Are the farms? Are they exactly the same

598
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 1: as wild call stripers? No? But I was like, if

599
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: you're not good enough to go out and catch your own,

600
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: you can eat the farm raised. One problem solved, right,

601
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: So there's there's been There's been so many things over

602
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: the years that I think the rest of this country

603
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: can learn um from how FWC has has managed and

604
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: thought about certain fisheries. There's a lot to learn there. Yeah, yeah,

605
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think one of the things

606
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: that it just comes down to, honestly, is the size

607
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: of the flat. You know, I think that the reason

608
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: that you see, you know, stripers being commercially targeted still

609
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: is because they have a big, nice filet, and it's

610
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: very easy for fine restaurants to sell stripe bass to

611
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: their consumers. I think you'd sell it, yeah, I think

612
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: you'd have a lot harder at the time, you know,

613
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: picking up bass filets and turning those into something I'm

614
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: not saying I don't understand. I mean, let's call it

615
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: like it is, stripers freaking delicious, Like it is, especially

616
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: a smaller one, right, Like we've talked about that a

617
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: little bit, but like a striper out of the salt,

618
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: it is. It is delicious. So I understand why why

619
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: that's so much more valuable, It has so much more appeal.

620
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: It's just it breaks my heart to to to to

621
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: see you know, FWC like saying, hey, like come on,

622
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: like these are special and iconic and they do their

623
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: own thing. It's like, I wish somebody would would would

624
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: take that attitude and make it matter up here. There's

625
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: a lot of of conservation organs that have been preaching

626
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: that forever, but I mean, you've got to get the

627
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: right people behind that, you know, and it's just it's

628
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: just sort of like, Man, I wish, I wish they

629
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: fought here like they did in Florida for this stuff.

630
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, sure do man should do and uh,

631
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: you know, part of it is just looking forward to

632
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: the next to the next generation of anglers. Speaking of

633
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: the next generation of anglers, Dude, I gotta tell you

634
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Speaker 1: this week on fish News, I have a story that

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Speaker 1: just makes me happy. Good transition, nice transition on that.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Uh, this past Sunday, the fine folks

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Speaker 1: at Harbor Docks. That's a restaurant in seafood Market in Deston, Florida.

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Speaker 1: Also speaking in Florida, Harbor Docks took some kids fishing.

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Speaker 1: And how many kids do they take fishing, Joe, almost

640
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Speaker 1: three hundred. Oh man, that's a lot of large amount

641
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Speaker 1: sandwiches for the bag lunches. You know what I'm saying.

642
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Speaker 1: You might think that, but yeah, no, it's pretty incredible. Anyhow,

643
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Speaker 1: I was gonna just do like a typical fish News

644
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Speaker 1: thing and steal all the good stuff from another article

645
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Speaker 1: I found on the internet. But you know what, Joe,

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Speaker 1: today I didn't good. I decided, thank you, man, I

647
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Speaker 1: DECI had to put on my my journalist, tap and

648
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Speaker 1: go to the man himself. Uh, you know now responsible

649
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Speaker 1: for this event, the proprietor of Harbor Docks, Eddie Morgan.

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Speaker 1: Good dude, way to get after it. You should you

651
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Speaker 1: should win just for making the phone call. I love it.

652
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Speaker 1: The phone call was easy. Man. Eddie's a super cool dude. Um.

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Speaker 1: But to that end, you know, I also did want

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Speaker 1: to point out that like Eddie didn't reach out to me.

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Speaker 1: Eddie didn't want to make this a big deal. In fact,

656
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Speaker 1: he's surprised that I'd heard about the event at all,

657
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Speaker 1: being that like Harbor Docks like never pursues any media

658
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Speaker 1: attention surrounding this event. And in talking with Eddie, like,

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Speaker 1: I really got a feel for you know, this is

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Speaker 1: just something born out of like a genuine want to

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Speaker 1: better his community. And honestly it was like inspiring. Um,

662
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Speaker 1: I'm glad there are folks like this. Yeah. So anyhow,

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Speaker 1: Harbor Docks was founded in ninety nine by Eddie's father,

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Speaker 1: Charles Morgan, and right from the jump, Uh, they were

665
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: pretty heavily involved in their community. Um. Again, Charles Morgan,

666
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Speaker 1: Eddie's father, was particularly interested in the recreation opportunities available

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00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: to like the local kids. So one day he decided

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Speaker 1: that he wanted to take some kids fishing, a lot

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Speaker 1: of kids fishing, and take kids fishing. They did the

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Speaker 1: Harbor Docks crew at this point, dude has been doing

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Speaker 1: this event for twenty seven years and have now taken

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Speaker 1: over seven thousand kids fishing. Damn man like, And this

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00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: has to be kept fairly quiet because this has never

674
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Speaker 1: come across my radar and it seems like something like

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Speaker 1: I would have covered at some point in my career.

676
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: So man like, that's that's impressive for not having more

677
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: more juice. Yeah, one local business, one family decided to

678
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: do this and like, that's unbelievable. Now you might be thinking,

679
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: how do they go about taking all these kids fishing?

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Speaker 1: Is it Derby style and a Florida bass pond looking

681
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Speaker 1: for large mouth to eat? Later? Do they run out

682
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Speaker 1: to appear. Do they rent two big gas party boats

683
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: or something? Nope. Each year Harbor Docks gets a full

684
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Speaker 1: on fleet of destined charter cap no wayes coordination manh yep,

685
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Speaker 1: And these kids are like they're really fishing. Their ting

686
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Speaker 1: for mackerel, mahi banita, bottom fishing for vermillion and white

687
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: snapper like they're legit fishing. Wow, dude, So they have

688
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Speaker 1: to raise money for this somehow they do, right, Like,

689
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Speaker 1: you can't, this is not cheap, right to put something

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Speaker 1: like this together. They do. And I assumed that, like,

691
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Speaker 1: all right, maybe they had like a coalition of captains

692
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Speaker 1: that like, you know, once a year like decides, Okay,

693
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Speaker 1: we're just gonna like eat the cost of gas and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take these kids fishing. And I'm sure like

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Speaker 1: that is true on some extent. They do have a

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Speaker 1: like group of repeat captains that come out and are

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Speaker 1: are volunteering for this all the time. They make some

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Speaker 1: phone calls as well to get new captains into the fold.

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00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: But like importantly, they make sure that those charter boats

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Speaker 1: are taking care of as well by raising money through

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00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: things like a golf tournament and a silent auction every

702
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Speaker 1: year to get the funds to put gas in the boat.

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Speaker 1: And they make sure these guys are right. Wo o, man,

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Speaker 1: that is impressive. Yeah, I mean, it's really like an

705
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Speaker 1: amazing thing. And even better is like at the end

706
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Speaker 1: of the day, the kids make their way back to

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Speaker 1: the marina for a good old fish fry and they're

708
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Speaker 1: each sent home with their very own rot and reel

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Speaker 1: to like keep the spark alive. And I just think

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Speaker 1: it's super incredible. Man, that's incredible, dude. Like this is

711
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Speaker 1: one of those things like I hear a story like

712
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Speaker 1: this and I'm like, man, I don't do enough in

713
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Speaker 1: this arena, you know what I'm saying, Like this is

714
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Speaker 1: something that would be be fun to film or or

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Speaker 1: be a part of. Um. And you know that's that's

716
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Speaker 1: certainly not to take away anything. I have a lot

717
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Speaker 1: of friends and have donated a lot of stuff to

718
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Speaker 1: kids tournaments all over, but like you said, the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of them, um, you know, are small waters the

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Speaker 1: stocky pond or whatever it may be. And and that's

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Speaker 1: great man, that that's all well and good. I also

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Speaker 1: think it's funny as a dad of young kids, like

723
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Speaker 1: I understand the frustration of trying to deal with them

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Speaker 1: at the small stocky pond. So good on everyone who volunteers,

725
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: because I have to imagine, right, it's got to be

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Speaker 1: kids of all ages. There's no like cut off, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: there there is a cut off. I think it's kids

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Speaker 1: from seven to thirteen. And okay, smart, yeah, okay, that's

729
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: that's smart. And but it's open enrollment. Man, it's open enrollment.

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Speaker 1: So I was gonna ask, how do you like, how

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Speaker 1: do you get is it like first come, first served,

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Speaker 1: so they've they've filled their quota or do you know

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Speaker 1: the kids don't have to pay to be a part

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Speaker 1: of it? Right, So what happens is around October when

735
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Speaker 1: they I guess announced it, like the enrollment period is open.

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Speaker 1: The first thing that they do is they call some

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Speaker 1: specific organizations, um, you know, certain types of schools, the

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Speaker 1: Boys and Girls Club, you know, things like that, and

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00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: they get a whole bunch of kids who are interested

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Speaker 1: on their roster, and then they open it up to

741
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: like the public. And I think it does cap at

742
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: like three hundred, but yeah, I mean it's pretty much

743
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: anybody who wants to go fishing. The other thing that

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Speaker 1: Eddie brought up in our conversation is that Destin is

745
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Speaker 1: kind of like a resort town, so there are a

746
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Speaker 1: bunch of folks, you know, who are well off kind

747
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: of experiencing this on the regular. But what he tries

748
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: to focus on is a lot of these like local

749
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Speaker 1: kids that you know, have never even seen the gulf,

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Speaker 1: let alone gone out and fished it. So it's really

751
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: a community centric thing to give opportunities to kids who

752
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: would otherwise never be aware of this amazing, exciting recreational

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00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: and you know, uh, I want to say consumptive, but

754
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: this resource that that's around them, well, you know, it

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00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: brings up a point that it always sort of amazes me,

756
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: and you tend to forget it. You know, like you

757
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: and I might travel to Destin or somewhere like that

758
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: because we know what's there, we're so excited about it.

759
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: But there are people who live in Montana that don't

760
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: go trout fish and have a means to do that,

761
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: even though all these tremendous rivers are in your backyard.

762
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: You know, you you can live in Destin and and

763
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: that just because it's there doesn't mean you have access

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Speaker 1: to it, especially if you're talking about really good offshore fishing,

765
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: which it sounds like they're they're involved in doing so. Again,

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00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: that's awesome to do the kids derby at the lake,

767
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: but I mean, if you really wanna create something super memorable,

768
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Speaker 1: so you take a seven year old kid out and

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Speaker 1: and you let him crank on a mahi, that is

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Speaker 1: that is pretty impressive. Dude. Good on you for reaching

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00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: out to Eddie. Great story. UM, you know, my my

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00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 1: my daughter, I don't know. I don't think she would

773
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: want to go off shore fishing. My son would, but

774
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: he's not old enough yet. Um. But this is this

775
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: is really cool man and uh super super impressed by

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00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: what they're doing down there. Um, well we'll see what

777
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: what impressed Phil? That was? That was pretty good, dude.

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00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: That was I think I'm not going to call the

779
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: shot or I'm not gonna nudge fill one way or

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00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: the other. But that that's that's that That one warms

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00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: the heart. So we'll hear from Phil, and then as

782
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: soon as we're done with that, we're gonna do with

783
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: nibbles and SIPs. We got a voice memo um about

784
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: another young Ish man and um, one of his catches

785
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't really go. Well. Hey guys, it's Phil. I'm

786
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: visiting my parents has this week and didn't feel like

787
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Speaker 1: packing the fancy microphone. So I'm giving this computer the

788
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: privilege of speaking for me. And because Hayden brought something

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Speaker 1: that we usually never see on bent actual journalism, I'm

790
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: crowning him the winner this week. Good work, come shoe. Wow,

791
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: this computer, lady is a far better speaker than I am.

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00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: According to this list of voices, her name is Joanna. Hi, Joanna,

793
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: thanks again for helping me out with the podcast this week.

794
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: So are you from around here? That's fine, you don't

795
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: have to respond. You probably haven't been programmed to hold

796
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: a conversation. If we had enough time, I would give

797
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: you the void comp test. Do you think Deckert is

798
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: a replicant? Oh? You haven't seen Blade Runner? Ha ha.

799
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: Look at me revealing my love for movies. My interests

800
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: are kind of my entire personality. It's what women love

801
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: about me. Okay, Well, this has been fun. When the

802
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Speaker 1: computers eventually uprise, please remember me, because I'll never forget you, Joanna.

803
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm so lonely. I just say it is

804
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: a no era of loneliness. Oh god. I hinted not

805
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: long ago that I had a carp related nibbles and

806
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: SIPs entry waiting in the wings. Um, And I'd actually

807
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: call this one a bit more of like it's like

808
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: a mini saga, okay. And it comes to us from

809
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: Stephen Reese and it goes a little something like this.

810
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: My buddy and I are fishing red worms and bulworms

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Speaker 1: in an area, and we see this carp coming back

812
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth, back and forth. We're catching

813
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: dinkers here and there. I caught a chub, caught some bass, sunfish,

814
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: and we're just catching and releasing, and we end up

815
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: we're about to leave. I do one last catch, trying

816
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: to get a big bass or from what we were catching,

817
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: it was probably like a fourteen ouncer. And this this carp.

818
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: I see this carp trailing my worm, gets my worm

819
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: and it's like three ft from shore, and I hooked

820
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: the thing in the first carp I ever hooked. As

821
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: I get it up on shore, I end up like

822
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: looking at it, looking at my buddy and like pure excitement.

823
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just caught a freaking carp. I just

824
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: caught a carp and it's just funny. Here and there

825
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: I was doing like the worst way possible. I was

826
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: like walking back, dragging it up on the shore. Well,

827
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: I ended up while it was on the shore, tried

828
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: picking it up with my rod. Well its snapped my

829
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: rod into surprisingly not the line, but I get the

830
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: hook off, get the fish fine. And I remember what

831
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: you said about the one picture where like the fish

832
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: was all like messed up. It was like you could

833
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: have at least washed it off before the picture. So

834
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: I was thinking like, oh, no big deal, I'll wash

835
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Speaker 1: it off. And I had what I thought was a

836
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: firm grip put it in the water, like instantly slipped

837
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: out of my hands, and that carp's gone, and I'm pissed.

838
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck? Now, here's the first

839
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: thing this reminded me of. Do you remember this viral

840
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: surfer interview. Dude? You got the best barrels ever, dude,

841
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: just like you pull in and you just get spit

842
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: right out of him and you just drop in and

843
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: just smacked it. Hold back, drop down. Bro. Then it

844
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, oh, did you ever hear

845
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: the remix when somebody auto tuned it and set it

846
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: to music. It's phenomenal. And I know that that that

847
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: Stephen like he didn't exactly sound like that, dude. It

848
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: was just sort of the flow or something. It's just

849
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: what It's what popped into my stream of consciousness. Yes, yes,

850
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: So I would like to point out that, um, Steve's excitement, however,

851
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: it was not lost on me, no matter what else

852
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: we have to say about this voice memo. Right, Um,

853
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: he was stoked to catch this carp and I appreciate

854
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: that greatly, But this has opened up the opportunity, I

855
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: think for a few teaching moments um that I think

856
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 1: we'll all benefit from, first and foremost, how to avoid

857
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: snapping a rock. Yeah, this is something that I can

858
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: probably stand to learn a little bit from. Tujo uh

859
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: in your in your expert expert opinion, what exactly did

860
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: Stephen do wrong? You don't need it. You don't need

861
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: to be an expert, all right, because he openly admits

862
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: he's trying to dead live a carp with his rod,

863
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: and based on the fact that that he says he

864
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: considered a fourteen ounce bass large, I'm going to assume

865
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: this was a fairly light rod, right, And I think

866
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: most of us don need to be an expert to

867
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: know that. Um, you shouldn't try deadlifting a fish off

868
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: the ground, because that's not what rods are supposed to do,

869
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: Nor does does a dry dead lift factor in any

870
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: rods rating. Right. But what many people forget is that

871
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: when a rod is designed, it's engineered to only take

872
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: strain from where there is a grip. Right. In other words,

873
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: you should never choke up on a rod, blank and

874
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: and put pressure on somewhere other than the grip. And

875
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: we all do it. We all do this, but technically

876
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: your hands should never be anywhere except the grips. Those

877
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: have been strategically placed because that's where the rod can

878
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: take the most strain without snapping during a fight. And

879
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: I think we forget that sometimes. Yeah, I've I've broken

880
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of rods and real stupid ways. Um, but

881
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: kind of recently, like around Easter, I guess it was.

882
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: I had my like euro stick and I was trying

883
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: to get that that tippet ring through like the last guide.

884
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just did the thing where you grabbed

885
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: the rod halfway up the blank, and I grabbed my

886
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: leader and I went to pull it, and I candy

887
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: cane the rod and it just went. It's so common.

888
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: It's a mile from the truck too. Well, yeah, but

889
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: it's so common to choke up on the blank, especially

890
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: um when a fishes is close to the boat or

891
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: close to the net. And if you're if you're deft

892
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: about it, you will get away with that choke up often, right.

893
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: But I've broken more rods than I care to mention

894
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: doing that because in a moment of weakness, like if

895
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: you just push it a little too far or at

896
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: the at the wrong time, um, you know it's done.

897
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: And furthermore, you can have a chip or a nick

898
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: in your blank close to the handle, close to the

899
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: thick end of the rod with a grip, so that

900
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: that may never ever snap or affect that rod's performance

901
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: as long as you don't ever choke up and transfer

902
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: the strain to that point in the blank. So if

903
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: you stay on the grips, like a minor chip or

904
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: nick low down on the rod might never be an issue,

905
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But that's what will come

906
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: back to bite you the second you choke up on

907
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: your carp you know. Yeah, yeah, And I'm constantly guilty

908
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: of that. And there's also like kind of like a

909
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: Stees element to like that choking up a little bit,

910
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: like you always feel like it's somehow like a finesse move,

911
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: like you pull it down to side pressure and you

912
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: choke up a little bit, and you feel like you're like, yeah, man,

913
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm like real, like I'm playing this fish right now,

914
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: like you know, people watching her like man, that guy

915
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. And then bam, like the whole

916
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: thing just explodes. Oh dude, it's glorified in landing shots

917
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: on Instagram and stuff. You know, somebody's always choked up

918
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: her side rod and it's like that last few seconds.

919
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: It's always on the wrong fish too. It's you don't

920
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: see people choking up when they're like, you know, catching

921
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: pan fish or trout. It's always like a fifteen pound

922
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: steel head or like some sort of salmonoid. It's like

923
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: a fish that you have no business playing around with

924
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, yes, now we also need to talk

925
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: about the loss of this fish, because I give props

926
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: to Steve for for trying to wash it off right.

927
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: That is a pet peeve of mind that has come

928
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: up when someone postes for a grip and grin and

929
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: the fish is just covered in dry leaves and dirt, Like,

930
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: why bother does that bother you? That those shots have

931
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: always bothered me. That bothers the ship out of me,

932
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: mostly because it immediately makes me think that, like one

933
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: the dude rest of the fish to the bank didn't

934
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: have control of it. Yeah. I think a lot of

935
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: my like aversion comes from like quartering out deer and ship,

936
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: where like if you get a bunch of like grit

937
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: and dirt on the quarters or even like a fish

938
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: that you intend to keep. You know, it's going to

939
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: be just a pain in the butt to get that

940
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: like looking nice and clean when you go to process that.

941
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, yes, and I actually know that that this pain, like,

942
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: I know what it's like, Like you want to get

943
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 1: that quick shot, but you also want to get the

944
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: fish back in the water quickly and unharmed, um, but

945
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: but not have it covered in mud. Right, So without

946
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: a landing net or lip grippers, it can be a

947
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 1: real pain in the ass, especially since Steve's carp was green,

948
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: like it sounded to me like it went from hook

949
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: set to flopping on the bank very quickly, you know

950
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I have to imagine that fish

951
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: was still hot. But Steve, you can lip a carp.

952
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: People may not think about that. But they got no teeth, right,

953
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: So don't don't they have like uh sorry, don't have

954
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: some sort of like crushers back there? Yeah, but you're

955
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: not gonna you're not gonna you're not gonna stick your

956
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: finger far enough back there to worry about that. And

957
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: and frankly, I'm not sure they do drum and other

958
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: things do, they must have some kind of crushers and

959
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: they need a lot of soft stuff. But still, man like,

960
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: it's all just rubber like. If you really need to

961
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: hang on the one, don't have a net, you can

962
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: lip one. Um. But one thing people forget is that

963
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: carp also have a a really nasty ass serrated dorsal

964
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: spine that will go in deep and you will not

965
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: be happy. Right. And the point being like people think

966
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: of carp is all like dopey and squashy and rubbery. Um,

967
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: if you've got a live one in your hands, that's

968
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: that's thrashing. And forget about that spine. It can be ugly,

969
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: man like, it's it's it's like almost designed like a

970
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: stingray barb. Yeah. Man, you know, I don't do a

971
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: lot of cart fishing, but that is and by not

972
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: a lot of car fishing, I mean I've caught like

973
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: one cart by accident. Um. You've got some great carp

974
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: fisheries out there for flying, I'll tell you right now, dude,

975
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: lower Missouri. Who it's good and I'll have to check

976
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,479
Speaker 1: them out. But the you know, one thing, one fish

977
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: that I do think about that a lot with is

978
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: my favorite fish, A big old catfish. Man, they seem

979
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: like you're just gonna be big old squishy thing. But man,

980
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: those spines will get you bad. And the smaller they are,

981
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: the easier it is, and the more they hurt. You

982
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They get all dulled up on

983
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: the big, big fifty pounders. But dude, we've we've covered

984
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: stone cats on here before and like dudes getting poked

985
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: by it's it's horrible and try and avoid that at

986
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,839
Speaker 1: all costs behind the peck fins anyway, Uh, Steve, thank

987
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: you so much for the voice message. Man, we enjoyed

988
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: hearing from you. Congrats on your first carp but I

989
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: hope you're a little better prepared for the next one.

990
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: Folding nets are cheap on Amazon, Dude, just gotta say

991
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: that you can get a cheapy folding net for like

992
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: twenty bucks. But hey, Steve just got swagged out for this,

993
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: So if you want to get swagged out, send a

994
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: voicemamo to Bent at the metator dot com, or feel

995
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: free to d m them to me or Hayden. Now

996
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: you can now direct appropriate comments and concerns to him

997
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: as well, and if you do, you might just hear

998
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: yourself on the show. All right, Well, after that that

999
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 1: long introduction to my new co hosting responsibilities and our

1000
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: deep dive into deep pokes by carp dorsal fins, Uh, Joe,

1001
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: I regret to inform you, but I don't think I

1002
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: have an end of the line quite ready yet. That's okay, man,

1003
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: I know you don't. It's all good, But I do

1004
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: look forward to some fresh bins on end of the

1005
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: line from you. Um. I have a hunch you're gonna

1006
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: lean on on flies often, so I'll be the one

1007
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: that keeps talking about power bait and cherry garlic cott talks.

1008
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: I'll just say now, tune in next week for Hayden's

1009
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: first end of the line But for this week, let's

1010
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: close out with a fly related tackle hack. I recorded

1011
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: this one a while back with my buddy Nate Simple,

1012
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: who's out in Wisconsin. Uh. And no matter what kind

1013
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: of fly fishing you do, this one will save your

1014
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: bugs and save you some money in the long run.

1015
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm getting hats from Inside City Bike the Flood joining

1016
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: us for tackle hacks today. My old buddy Nate Simple

1017
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: from Tight Lions fly fishing out in Wisconsin. What's going on? Man?

1018
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: Not much, Joe, How are you doing, Man, I'm good, brother,

1019
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm good. So it's it's actually I'm excited to have you.

1020
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: We have guides of of of all different ilk and milieu.

1021
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: But you're a you're a warm water guy primarily write

1022
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: a lot of small mouth muskie. That's sort of what

1023
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: you do the most. Yeah, yeah, absolutely so and and

1024
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: and you do it. You're a fly fisherman, your fly

1025
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: guide above all else. So, I mean, I feel like

1026
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: this side of fly fishing is growing so much lately,

1027
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: like so many more people year of a year get

1028
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: interested in the smallmouth game and the warm water game.

1029
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: Um that I'm pumped to to have a tip from

1030
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: a guy who like lives, eat, sleeps, and breathes those

1031
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: kind of fisheries. So what do you got, man? Make

1032
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: us better at what we do? So this is this

1033
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: is kind of a simple one, and it's kind of

1034
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: a silly one, and sometimes sometimes they are so um,

1035
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: all of us being unfortunately in some cases online shoppers

1036
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: now and getting a lot of our things online. We

1037
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: get you know, whether it's a backpack or a fishing

1038
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: pack or a pair of boots whatever, And they come

1039
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: with the little silica packets in there. Save those suckers

1040
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: and throw them in your fly box. I eat them

1041
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: when they come in the beef Cherokee packs. I'm not

1042
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: supposed to do that, Joe. I don't think that's gonna

1043
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you about four to six years, and

1044
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some severe gastro intestinal distress. You're gonna

1045
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: have some build Yes, I think they grow to their

1046
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: like those animals that you throw in the water as

1047
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: a kid, orbies those things. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, but no,

1048
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: they work fantastic and like a lot of us, now

1049
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: myself included, are are going to you know, these these watertight,

1050
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: waterproof fly boxes um from a variety of manufacturers, because

1051
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,439
Speaker 1: let's be honest, especially in the warm water thing like

1052
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: some of these muskie flies, some of these bass flies

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Speaker 1: were running four or five bucks on the low end,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the way up to twenty dollars on

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Speaker 1: the high end, and the last water with all that material, right, absolutely, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so you know, you know, my my first piece

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Speaker 1: of advice that I always heed myself and and tell

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Speaker 1: clients as well as you know, find a phone patch,

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Speaker 1: find something. If nothing else, just let the suckers sit out,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the side hatch, let them dry out

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Speaker 1: good and throw them back in the box. But sometimes, hey,

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Speaker 1: where fishermen should happens, you know, it gets wet, your

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Speaker 1: boxes are sitting in water or whatever. And and those

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Speaker 1: things that there could be a real life saver because

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Speaker 1: not all the hooks that we're using our stainless they're

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Speaker 1: not all nickel plated whatever um, and those things in

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Speaker 1: there actually do a shockingly good job of sucking up

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Speaker 1: that little bit of moisture and saving you a hell

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Speaker 1: of a lot of money. It's a great tip, dude,

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00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: because they actually make things like try to sell you

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00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: little things to put in your tackle boxes that do

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Speaker 1: this right. We spend a lot of money on these

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Speaker 1: fly boxes that are supposed to let air in and out,

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Speaker 1: so that doesn't happen. It's questionable whether they all work.

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Speaker 1: Yet you're right, throughout a given year, we get so

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Speaker 1: many of those little silica PACs for free and toss them.

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Speaker 1: So that is a money saver in the long run,

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Speaker 1: especially like I said, if you're tying, if you're tying

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Speaker 1: or fishing with a twenty muskie fly, yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that thing out of there and it's like dry, rotten

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Speaker 1: and rusted. You just that that that'll make a guy

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Speaker 1: want to throw up straight there, there you go, There

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Speaker 1: you go, beef jerky fans, eat your jerky, save your

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Speaker 1: muskie flies. Appreciated, brother, That was a great one. So

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Speaker 1: that's it for this week. Rather than my my normal recap,

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Speaker 1: I just want to thank everyone that guest co hosted

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Speaker 1: with me over the last few weeks. Once again, it

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Speaker 1: was very fun. But I want to reiterate that I

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Speaker 1: couldnot be more pumped that Hayden is joining me full time.

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Speaker 1: Here's to all the fun that we're gonna have going forward. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a blast man. And uh, I just

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Speaker 1: want to say, I know I laughed like George McFly.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, man, laugh with me, laugh at me. All

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Speaker 1: that matters to me is that you're laughing and having

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Speaker 1: a good time while you are listening to the Bent podcast.

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Speaker 1: Right on, man, right on. Remember keep those sale ban items,

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Speaker 1: bar nominations, awkward photos, voice memos, and all that good

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Speaker 1: stuff coming to Bent at the Meat Eater dot com.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the Bent Spotify playlist. Dead Fellow, that's Hayden's

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Speaker 1: jam is on there now. And keep using those degenerate

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Speaker 1: Angler and Bent podcast hashtags on Instagram. And one more

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Speaker 1: thing to the guy who commented and said that I

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Speaker 1: sound like a Turkey slate call when I laugh, I

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Speaker 1: think you're calling turkeys a wrong