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Speaker 1: There are a dynamic duo. They're very talented in their

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Speaker 1: the founders of sugar Berry. Ticka Sumter stars in the

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Speaker 1: Harts That's My Boy, Laugh Out Loud Network. On the

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Speaker 1: sugar Please welcome to money Making Conversation. The owners of

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Speaker 1: sugar Berry, tick A Sumter and Tyrandolf thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Later that we want to thank you everywhere. First of all,

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Speaker 1: know my show. You know, you just start things with ideas.

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Speaker 1: at how many of those are first generation college students,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty daggerant. So you have to think about the

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Speaker 1: seeds that we're sing, you know, just you know tonys ago,

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Speaker 1: yours or shirty years ago that said, Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: and so you know, I said, I really think that

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Speaker 1: see this solidarity forming where they're almost seemed to be

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Speaker 1: this resistance for so long there could only be one

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Speaker 1: of us. And whether it's seeming or the number of

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Speaker 1: you know, um women's groups and sororities and um, you

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Speaker 1: know sort of consortions that you're seeing where you know,

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Speaker 1: we're pooling our resources, um in our efforts to really

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Speaker 1: amplify and support each other. It's a really beautiful movement

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Speaker 1: that's going on amongst women of color. I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you on the sugar how many amazing entrepreneurs we have

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Speaker 1: had in one fast or another, from interior designers and

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Speaker 1: furniture store owners to um, you know, people in the

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Speaker 1: wellness fields or trans you know, like Debbie Brown and

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Speaker 1: the wellness field who's really transforming things. But the one

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Speaker 1: through line is that everyone has been so supportive of

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Speaker 1: other women of color. So I think movement or undercurrent

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Speaker 1: there too. You know, it's really Uh. The thing about

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Speaker 1: it is that in hearing both of your articulate the

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Speaker 1: play and the mission and I'm talking to take us

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Speaker 1: something in Tyrande Off their the host of The Sugar,

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Speaker 1: one of their many and devors as a podcast which

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Speaker 1: airs every week and the listeners can laugh, learn love

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Speaker 1: and as they spill the sugar instead of the tea,

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Speaker 1: they shared infibrary celebrating sisterhood and motherhood. And you know

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Speaker 1: the thing about it is that when I when you

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Speaker 1: when you mentioned you know, Jessica album, you're missening to

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Speaker 1: some other people you know right now as a podcast,

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Speaker 1: and then you mentioned red Table. Now what you guys

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Speaker 1: are doing is not red Table. It's something totally different.

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Speaker 1: Does this does will this become visual? Will we'll be

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Speaker 1: able to see this in a streaming platform maybe or

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Speaker 1: a syndicated player maybe, Because I'm telling Sean McDonald's a fan,

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Speaker 1: Because first of all, I love talking to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Y'all really, are you know kids been muddon? Jeff? You

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Speaker 1: know Lauren Hardy, y'all really are y'all opted? And yeah,

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Speaker 1: y'all sounded like you know you know that I need

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Speaker 1: to see y'all on TV because I go is that

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Speaker 1: Tika Tuck? You know, I got put that old ear

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Speaker 1: to the to the phone, you know what he's talking about. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're absolutely excited to once we get out. Obviously, once

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Speaker 1: we're all able to leave the house again, we have

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Speaker 1: a lot of plans. You got to you got to, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of series on our on our platform sugarberry

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Speaker 1: dot Com. But also, um yeah, see the visual of

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Speaker 1: the actual podcast on streaming, because it's just a wonderful Um.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I've always been a fan of Falward

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Speaker 1: Essence Magazine, the Essence Festivals all those years and just

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Speaker 1: going down there and seeing five hundred thousand you know,

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Speaker 1: Black people and to walk around and at least eight

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Speaker 1: of them or African American women walking around, you know,

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Speaker 1: examining their culture, building their culture, and throughout this country.

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Speaker 1: You know, your uh Circle of Sisters in New York

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Speaker 1: that's a giant festival. Charlotte, that's a giant female festival.

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Speaker 1: So they're always festivals for women, geared towards women. But

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that you guys are becoming a

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Speaker 1: varce an entrepreneurial vorce and saying women are beyond let's

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Speaker 1: let's sen to beyond the kitchen, beyond being just cute,

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Speaker 1: being just being being a person. A face of attractiveness,

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Speaker 1: your business people, your people who you know, your your

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Speaker 1: your your wives, you're raising kids. But guess what you're

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Speaker 1: more than that is that is that basically the story

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Speaker 1: in a in a version of what you guys are

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Speaker 1: trying to accomplish and tell on a daily basis, not

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Speaker 1: only with your platforms Sugar, but with your brand Sugarberry.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, motherhood should be enjoyed not in

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Speaker 1: doors to all these stories. But I also think you know,

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Speaker 1: to your point about you know, knocking being a pretty

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Speaker 1: face and not just being what's what's so interesting is

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Speaker 1: from a business partnership perspective in Tatica's earlier point about

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Speaker 1: finding someone who you know is sort of who balances

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Speaker 1: your strength and weaknesses, but also who has the same

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Speaker 1: work ethic. Think that it's so hands on, not just

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Speaker 1: in sort of the program she's hands on in the

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Speaker 1: creative direction and the programming and the editorial in do

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Speaker 1: deal structures, and so I think that you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's really really hope to lay up a blueprint for

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Speaker 1: you know, women and just entrepreneurs in general. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a lot of hardware, but but also um,

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Speaker 1: you know there's their space for everyone at the table,

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Speaker 1: and so so much of what we talked about, even

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Speaker 1: on the sugar is what this journey has been like

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Speaker 1: for us, like watching during the COVID crisis and you know,

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Speaker 1: our own you know, sort of hurdles with you know,

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Speaker 1: raising capital. So um, So yeah, I do think it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a point of inspiration, Chica. What would you say? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a point of inspiration. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's just I mean, I don't think I think having

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Speaker 1: think anybody just I don't think anybody wants to just

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Speaker 1: be a pretty face. I think they just have to

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Speaker 1: then go from there, you know, and try to seek

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Speaker 1: the opportunities where they are, and start from where you are.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we know, you know, I'm talking to very

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Speaker 1: two very smart, smart ladies. And I would say, you know,

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Speaker 1: I saw Tica. I saw in one of these movies.

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Speaker 1: I think you start with Jamie Lee Curtis and um,

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Speaker 1: and you are and yeah right right right and you

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Speaker 1: um and you were rattling off these terrorist names and

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Speaker 1: I went, I went ain't no way I could say

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Speaker 1: two of those names correctly. You just articulate them so smooth,

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Speaker 1: and so it's just it's just, you know, there's nothings

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Speaker 1: like that impressed me. I'm just sorry. Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: a simple guy. Tica T A T. I'm just simple

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Speaker 1: like that. That. But the more because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm gonna do that. You did it.

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Speaker 1: You did it. I believe you. I believe you even

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Speaker 1: if you said it ain't wrong, you said it clear well.

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Speaker 1: Talking to the Stars of the Sugar is an incredible podcast.

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