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Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, how's everybody doing on a Wednesday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you as per usual, One Bill's Lives

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Speaker 2: the program. We're here with you till three. Good to

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Speaker 2: have you with us. And you know, there's some stuff

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Speaker 2: kicking around. But the big pre draft news of the

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Speaker 2: day concerns LSU's pro day, primarily because they have a

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Speaker 2: quarterback prospect down there by the name of Jaden Daniels

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Speaker 2: who could go as high as two, who knows, maybe

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Speaker 2: even number one. So all this talk about Caleb Williams

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Speaker 2: and how he's a can't miss prospect. Remember when we

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Speaker 2: heard that in the twenty eighteen draft and everybody thought

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns were taking Sam Darnold. Yeah, and they

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Speaker 2: took Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 3: He took the right guy, I mean out of those two.

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Speaker 2: Well, yes, they missed.

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Speaker 3: You can make the argument that the first round quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Browns weren't exactly the best environment to be dropped into either.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's true that Baker deserved a little better probably,

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Speaker 3: But you don't get that we could reverse you could

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Speaker 3: reverse draft that entire class. It should lamar two time

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Speaker 3: MVP Josh elite and like appointment viewing. Oh you know what,

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Speaker 3: he can take their eyes off the dude, our guy,

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Speaker 3: and then it's well, you skipped over Joe Oh Josh Rosen. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Josh Rosen, Well eh.

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Speaker 2: You must understand why you skipped over it.

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Speaker 3: Well, think about it, though, if you reverse the order,

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Speaker 3: the second guy picked would still be a bust. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: although Rosen's out of the league, didn't he maybe anyway,

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Speaker 3: I think so might be. But anyway, that's you could

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Speaker 3: reverse the order of the drafted quarterbacks in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 3: you'd be closer to getting it right. Baker should have been,

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Speaker 3: I mean should have been. If you're if you're going

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Speaker 3: strictly accomplishments, it's lamar Josh Baker, Sam Josh Rosen. Right,

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Speaker 3: don't forget Mason Rudolph in the third round, still banging around,

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Speaker 2: He would he would ruin your reverse order theory.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, but you think about it. But I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about the first round. But yeah, it's you know, fun

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Speaker 3: to Yeah, now not six years but three years into

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Speaker 3: go back and kind of get a clearer view because

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Speaker 3: now Baker's been on what five teams, four teams, and

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Speaker 3: now he's finally got a place. Now he's finally got

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Speaker 3: a place in Tampa where he won a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he went from Cleveland to Carolina to the Rams

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Speaker 3: Temple last year, right and won a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: He did. So It's LSU Pro Day today and all

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Speaker 2: eyes are obviously on Jaden Daniels, but that's not all. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: got receivers my league, Neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior also

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Speaker 2: working out today. Neighbors ran and clocked a four three

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Speaker 3: Forty two if you're wondering, forty two inches.

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Speaker 1: Is really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can jump high.

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Speaker 2: It's three and a half feet.

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Speaker 3: You can jump high.

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Speaker 2: You can put eight year olds underneath him and he

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Speaker 2: clear them, and then there will be I'm hoping there's

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Speaker 2: he's coming off an ACL injury. I don't think he

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Speaker 2: maybe if people think he shows well here today that

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Speaker 2: they could be convinced otherwise. Are you ready for this? Steve?

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Speaker 2: After his pro day workout, Jaden Daniels is already scheduled

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Speaker 2: to meet with the Patriots Commanders, Giants, Vikings, Broncos, Raiders.

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Speaker 2: All five of those teams have a pick in the

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Speaker 2: Patriots have nine people in attendance at Jayden Daniels Pro Day,

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Speaker 3: That to me is it's really interesting because after you

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Speaker 3: the thing about it is you don't know but you

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Speaker 2: You're thinking, I'm not gonna be back.

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Speaker 3: So what you do is, as a human being, you

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Speaker 3: start talking yourself out of a man. You start saying, ah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I suppose that's human for your ownership.

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Speaker 3: You go to these pro days and say, you start

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Speaker 3: to stay objective. I mean, Brownie and I we don't

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Speaker 3: and we're picking them, we're picking favorites.

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Speaker 2: That's actually the subject of our newest podcast on Bills

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Speaker 2: by the Numbers. We kind of pick our favorites in

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Speaker 2: terms of prospects in the draft class. So that'll be

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Speaker 2: out later today. Keep an eye out for that on

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Speaker 2: whatever podcast platform you might use. New addition of Bills

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Speaker 2: by the Numbers coming your way later this afternoon. Bill's news.

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Speaker 2: Tredavious White has a new home and it is with

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams the form of Bill's cornerback and

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Speaker 2: the one who also performed Aaron Rodgers, doctor Neil Atrosh.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's how you say it. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's I think it's a trush.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, he's based in LA, so that apparently appealed to

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Speaker 2: Trudeavius as well through you know, have his doctor kind

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Speaker 2: of monitoring his rehab on a regular basis, and certainly

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Speaker 2: we'll all be rooting for him to get back on

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Speaker 2: the field. The Bills play at the Rams this coming season,

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Speaker 2: so if he can get back on the field before

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's so good to see him land on it.

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Speaker 3: that he's football was done. Certainly there's some question marks

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Speaker 3: about him. When you pop your achilles as a corner,

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Speaker 2: Not to mention a year after tearing your ACL.

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Speaker 3: and early in the season he pops his I can't

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Speaker 3: it's hard to even articulate the fact that you climb

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Speaker 3: of it is an absolute crusher, and that's what he was.

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Speaker 3: That's what happened to Tredavius that day? I believe it

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Speaker 3: There's so many things defenders can't do. It was a

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Speaker 3: non contact injury and just absolute tragedy. But it's not

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Speaker 3: over for him, and that's nice to hear. And as

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Speaker 3: he goes to the Rams. You know, I'm sure all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's kind of the nuts and bolts. Not

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Speaker 2: a whole lot going on. The league meetings are over

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there'll be some, you know, lower level free

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Speaker 2: and can connect the dots there, two year deal for

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Speaker 2: him for six million dollars. I don't know, are you

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Speaker 2: a little surprised he signed there? You got Naji Harris

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Speaker 3: It's just it's the evolution of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know. I mean, yes, the

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Speaker 2: They also signed Van Jefferson, the receiver who was down

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh is an intriguing team, I think final because let's

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Speaker 3: face it, they had Ben Roethlisberger for sixteen years and

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Speaker 3: Ben was a rare talent could throw the football at

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Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh, like a lot of teams, do got complacent

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Speaker 3: get tired of looking at him too. Remember, their offense

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, he's working with Daniel Jones. Your expectations

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Speaker 3: I mean you, you've been saying he's strapped. They strapped themselves.

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Speaker 3: They picked Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: No, they I'm talking about during the day ball air.

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Speaker 2: I think Joe Shane might make a move here. Think

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Speaker 3: In the old days. Day Ball picks up the phone,

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Speaker 2: They do it, and they do it right. I don't

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Speaker 3: it's that important. Don't be taking Saquon Barkley, don't be

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Speaker 3: you know, Thibideau no, you got to find that guy.

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Speaker 3: We were We've lived there, Brownie for seventeen years. This

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Speaker 2: We can on that.

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Speaker 3: All right. Stop.

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Speaker 2: You know Kelly Cobb, Randall Cobb, not Randall Cop, Kevin

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean it's like one thing after

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Speaker 2: They're coming, but I'm getting they're all trickling out. Well

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Speaker 2: Well, the Giants had that option last year and chose not.

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Speaker 3: At least he gives you a floor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There. It is a topic of discussion today. Aside

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Speaker 2: eight o three five point fifty won eighty eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty. Just though we have a little

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Speaker 2: the Bean McDermott era eight three five fifty one eighty

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Speaker 3: And if you haven't a favorite player, then it's not

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Speaker 3: because they are great players, because some other reason, I

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Speaker 2: Oh, what other reason could there be? I guess, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's got a great personality.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's got blue eyes or something.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for Steve?

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 7: Sure, so I'll answer the question. I had a different question,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, twenty he's He's.

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Speaker 7: One of my favorite players in the entire NFL. I

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Speaker 7: But looking back now, it has to be one of

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Speaker 7: first of all for keeping us engaged hearing the whole offseason.

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Speaker 7: It's much appreciated. You guys are fantastic at what you do.

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Speaker 2: Thanks due appreciate that. That's very nicey to say with

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Speaker 2: cut him. If you traded him, they would still be

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Speaker 2: Number Two, who's to say they didn't explore trade options?

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Speaker 3: It's All Pro second year.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine a team giving up an asset to

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Speaker 2: His rehabilitation did not line up with him being healthy

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Speaker 3: it with as much you know which as much given

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Speaker 3: Tredavius as much latitude as they could give him, and uh,

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Speaker 3: you know it worked out for Tredevious as well. He's

437
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Speaker 3: not making sixteen a year, but he's making ten and

438
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Speaker 3: that's a big number. So you know that's you're right

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Speaker 3: that the cap it all. It all comes down to

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Speaker 3: the rules. And Steve Caller asked what's going on with it,

441
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Speaker 3: and it just the Bills got the most benefit by

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Speaker 3: releasing him rather than trading him. And that's so that's

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Speaker 3: why it happened with the way it did.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones at eight oh three, five fifty one,

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Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty got some open

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Speaker 2: lines there. But we go to Mark in Tanawanda next.

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Speaker 2: What's up Mark?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on for the question.

449
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Speaker 9: I think Kinkaid is my favorite. I love the last

450
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Speaker 9: caller talking about Milan, but I think the Kincaid draft

451
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Speaker 9: pick it's hopefully a sign of things to come of

452
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Speaker 9: just trading or using the draft for weapons for Josh

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Speaker 9: Allen for a cheap price, and I hope that's a

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Speaker 9: trend again this year. But I wanted to pick your

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Speaker 9: guys brain Steed, you called the Gregory Russol pick. I

456
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Speaker 9: want to know who you think we're taking this year.

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Speaker 9: And this was just for the sake of conversation. I

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Speaker 9: think Sean McDermott's there's a lot of pressure on him

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Speaker 9: this year.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to say he's on the hot seat,

461
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Speaker 10: but I don't think it's ice cold. And if we

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Speaker 10: don't make the ANFC Championship game at least this year,

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Speaker 10: I really think a decision has to be made on

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Speaker 10: Sean McDermott. So that being said, going into this draft,

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Speaker 10: and I don't think all these players we have eleven

466
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Speaker 10: picks right this roster is still so good that not

467
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Speaker 10: all these guys are gonna make this team. So why

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Speaker 10: not trade up and get your guy? And I hope

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Speaker 10: that's what Brandon Bean does this year. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 10: to listen to you guys. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I kind of disagree with you. Certainly,

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Speaker 3: anything can happen during a season, no question, and the

473
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Speaker 3: unexpected could happen all that, But I don't I know,

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Speaker 3: I don't think Sean McDermott is under any duress in

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Speaker 3: his job at all. But everything you know, it could

476
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Speaker 3: all change, and I am I don't know how Terry

477
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Speaker 3: Pegoula feels or any conversation that goes on around that,

478
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Speaker 3: but I would be stunned if it was even a

479
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Speaker 3: blip on the radar that seam. No more more so

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Speaker 3: than any other coach in the league, of course, because

481
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Speaker 3: it's it's one of those professions. But I know, I

482
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Speaker 3: don't think that's true at all. Secondly, us calling draft picks,

483
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Speaker 3: we do that like two hours before the pick. I

484
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Speaker 3: mean we do it the day before the pick.

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Speaker 2: Not we did nail James Cook.

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Speaker 3: We nailed James Cook, and we nailed.

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Speaker 2: Day two and morning of day two.

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Speaker 3: Right, we did nail James Cook. And before that was Rousseau.

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Speaker 2: Well you had Rousseau. I didn't have that. That was

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Speaker 2: all you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So well yeah, not today, we can't pick him.

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Speaker 3: But when it gets closer and all the you know,

493
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Speaker 3: when you sign Leonard Floyd's and stuff like that, Lton

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Speaker 3: free agency or at least you know you get an

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Speaker 3: idea of where they're headed, then maybe maybe, but not today.

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Speaker 3: I can't. I have no idea what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: Because unless it's one of those wide outs.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Brian in Rochester. Next, what's up, Brian?

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Speaker 11: Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 12: Chris Steve?

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Speaker 11: So, you guys were talking about the best draft pick

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Speaker 11: not named Josh Allen, And the first name that popped

503
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Speaker 11: in my head was Matt Milano, because you got a

504
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Speaker 11: guy who's a fifth round draft pick and to me,

505
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Speaker 11: he's been the most consistent and the most physical guy

506
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Speaker 11: on our defense for a number of years now. And

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Speaker 11: then the other thing I was going to bring up

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Speaker 11: with you guys had talked about in terms of, you know,

509
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Speaker 11: the Giants and some of these other teams, they're just

510
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Speaker 11: not taking their risks and the chances to go get

511
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Speaker 11: that quarterback. We were in a limbo for nearly two

512
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Speaker 11: decades and it wasn't until Brandon Bean got Josh Allen.

513
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Speaker 11: And look what he had to do to get it.

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Speaker 11: It literally took it was like a two year process

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Speaker 11: in order for him to get up to twelve, get

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Speaker 11: up to seven, find the right trade partners. I'm shocked

517
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Speaker 11: at more of these teams don't take those measures to

518
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Speaker 11: try to go get them. If you're swinging your miss,

519
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Speaker 11: you're swinging your miss. But if you can't get a hit,

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Speaker 11: if you don't swing at all.

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Speaker 3: I would agree with you. I think you have and

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Speaker 3: you're right. It took two years. It took a long

523
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Speaker 3: time for them to get there, or not two years,

524
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Speaker 3: but it took a full twelve months of moves. Remember

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Speaker 3: they traded from twenty three and got up to twelve

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Speaker 3: with Cincinnati, and they gave up a left tackle to

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Speaker 3: do it. All right, so what they had to you know,

528
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Speaker 3: it's not cheap, but you got to you gotta line

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Speaker 3: it up and get there. And you know, you're right.

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Speaker 3: I thought they handled it masterfully because it they took

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Speaker 3: their time and got there to where they you could

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Speaker 3: get up to their spot. And remember if Denver, if

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Speaker 3: Bradley Chubb does not fall to Denver at number five,

534
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Speaker 3: the Bills jumped to five with Denver and give up more.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, arguably, yeah that yeah, So all that is

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Speaker 3: is and I agree with you. You got to swing big,

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Speaker 3: You got you gotta do what it takes to get

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Speaker 3: that guy and then work with what you can work with.

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Speaker 3: And I say this too, think about doubt difficult now,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm you know, I've never sounded older, but.

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Speaker 2: Barack, and mind, you know you couldn't you couldn't.

542
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Speaker 3: Go ad free agents like you can now.

543
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Speaker 2: You can build your club.

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Speaker 3: You got cap space, You're back in the saddle today.

545
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Speaker 3: You don't have to wait four drafts and hit on

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Speaker 3: three picks every one of those drafts to build it

547
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Speaker 3: up around some quarterback who's waiting on you. You know,

548
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Speaker 3: go get the quarterback and then do what you can

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Speaker 3: with the rest of it.

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Speaker 2: Right, which is kind of the big thing that the

551
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Speaker 2: Patriots find themselves up against. They've got a roster that

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Speaker 2: they have to rebuild. Do you draft the quarterback and

553
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Speaker 2: throw them to the wolves with a less than ideal

554
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Speaker 2: roster around him, or do you build the roster and

555
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Speaker 2: then get the quarterback later. If you think this is

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Speaker 2: a guy that can be your franchise guy, I think

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Speaker 2: you get him and then you figure all the rest

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Speaker 2: of the stuff out. That's right, because it's harder to

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Speaker 2: get that guy than it is to build your roster,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, we've we've seen Bills. The Bills have

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Speaker 3: done it the last two or three years, refurbished and

563
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Speaker 3: renewed their draft through the renewed their roster through the

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Speaker 3: draft and free agency, and there's got I mean, good grief.

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Speaker 3: They brought Leonard Floyd in after in June last year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's guys like that out there, and all

567
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Speaker 3: you gotta you just need two things. You need that

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Speaker 3: guy taking quarterback snaps and you need cap space. Other

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Speaker 3: than that, you're let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but you let us know,

571
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Speaker 2: aside from Josh Allen, who has been your favorite Bills

572
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Speaker 2: draft pick during the Bean McDermott era, we're wide open

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Speaker 2: for your phone calls for the whole show today, So

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Speaker 2: Andrew and d C Nick and Georgia Robin Connecticut will

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Speaker 2: get to you when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Kalaida Elvit's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday edition of On Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

578
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Speaker 2: Tasker with you and topic on the table for you today.

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Speaker 2: Aside from Josh Allen, who has been your favorite Bill's

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Speaker 2: draft pick during the McDermott bean era, had some interesting

581
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Speaker 2: choices here thus far. But we're gonna head back to

582
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Speaker 2: the phones for some more and we lead off this

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Speaker 2: segment with Andrew down in DC. What's up Andrew, Hi,

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Speaker 2: Christ and Steve, Hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me on. I want to tell you

586
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Speaker 13: that my favorite pick besides Josh is James Cook. When

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Speaker 13: we got him a couple of years ago. I really

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Speaker 13: just feel like, you know, said Singletary was great for us,

589
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Speaker 13: but the Bills weren't looked at as a real run

590
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Speaker 13: threat until this year when Cook became our number one guy.

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Speaker 13: And even when he was a rookie, I think he

592
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Speaker 13: was doing a little bit better in terms of yards

593
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Speaker 13: per kerry compared to Singletary. And in this year when

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Speaker 13: in weeks two and three, I think it was against

595
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Speaker 13: the Raiders and the Commanders, he just took charging over

596
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Speaker 13: one hundred yards for rushing and I thought like suddenly

597
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 13: teams have to looking up as the real run threats.

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Speaker 13: And the reason that's so mating for us because it

599
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 13: just opens up the deeper paths from Joshua with the horses,

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Speaker 13: like our best player, number one threat. So I just

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Speaker 13: feel like Cook is our guy, and to get him

602
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Speaker 13: in the second round two years ago, I think it's

603
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Speaker 13: just awesome for us. So I want to know what

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Speaker 13: you two think about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we eve and I that was the one that

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Speaker 2: we kind of targeted day of Day two, So you know,

607
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Speaker 2: Day two of the draft starts Friday night. Steve and

608
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Speaker 2: I are on Friday in the afternoon and we're like,

609
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Speaker 2: we got the guy. We got the guy for the Bills,

610
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Speaker 2: and he's still on the board. Then the Bills trade

611
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Speaker 2: down twice. Were you sweating as much as I was?

612
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, they traded down again, Just take him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I wasn't, no, because my job didn't depend

614
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Speaker 3: on being right right, So you know, yeah, we did

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Speaker 3: call for James Cook because of what he brought to

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Speaker 3: the table as a draft pick, dynamic athlete. He wanted

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Speaker 3: a guy, and we were you know, at that point,

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Speaker 3: I was caught up a little bit in the uh

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Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey back you know, back wall, or where that's

620
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Speaker 3: a guy that makes a difference for his offense at

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Speaker 3: that position where it's hard to do that these days.

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Speaker 2: And we think, you know what, it was part of

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Speaker 2: a team that drafted right.

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Speaker 3: And I think, I know, maybe that we can do

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00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: that too, and certainly Cook's got that skill set. I

626
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Speaker 3: like the guy. I think, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Could argue he's the most dynamic athlete on the team's

628
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Speaker 2: offense last year. Yeah, tell me somebody who's more dynamic

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Speaker 2: than him on the offense right now. Well, I don't

630
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Speaker 2: think Diggs is it's not more dynamic than him.

631
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Speaker 3: Well, Diggs is probably more productive at at least the

632
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Speaker 3: first half of the season last year he was. But

633
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Speaker 3: dig can't. Diggs can't carry the ball out of the

634
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Speaker 3: backfield and run routes and do it. I mean, it's

635
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Speaker 3: just Cook gives you so much. And uh, I'm kind

636
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Speaker 3: of with you. I I think he's a Swiss army knife.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: Good choice. That's a good choice for favorite pick. I

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Speaker 2: like it. Uh, let's go to Nick in your next

640
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Speaker 2: what's up? Nick?

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Speaker 10: Hi?

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Speaker 12: Well, I know it's not on the bean era, but

643
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Speaker 12: my favorite draft choice in the past decade was Keiko

644
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Speaker 12: Alonso just because the legend of Kiko.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it hard to believe he only played

646
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Speaker 2: one year here?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 2: Now do you like that league? Do you like that

649
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Speaker 2: pick more because of what Kiko did in his one

650
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Speaker 2: year here or because of what it got back in

651
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: the trade in Lashawn.

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Speaker 12: McCoy, both of it? Okay, I mean, but Greg Russou

653
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 12: is probably my favorite guy just because I picked I

654
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 12: picked him before the draft.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you zeroed in on him.

656
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Speaker 12: But my real question is what do you guys think

657
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 12: of the Alabama wide receiver? Pro football focus is really

658
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 12: high on him, and I just don't know anything about him.

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Speaker 3: All right, let me let me go to my handy dandy. Well,

660
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 3: I have my yeah, because I can't keep these guys.

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00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: Alabama wide receiver?

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Speaker 2: Why is that not ringing a bell for me?

663
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: Oh, the big kid?

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Speaker 2: Are you talking about Jermaine Burton?

665
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: No, the six to eight kid.

666
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: No, that's Florida State Johnny Wilson. Okay, so I'm guessing

667
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: he's talking about Jermaine Burton, who was a Georgia transfer.

668
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 2: Not super high on him. I'll give you a couple

669
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: of reasons why he's an unquestionable deep threat average twenty

670
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: and a half yards per reception as a senior for Alabama,

671
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: eight touchdowns. I think he's a crafty route runner, good

672
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: at freezing DB's to get separation. Doesn't have the biggest frame.

673
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: He can line up outside I think probably more as

674
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: a flanker than a traditional split end. He has good hands,

675
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: tracks the ball well over shoulder. But this is a

676
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: guy who I don't think has the character DNA for

677
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: the Bills Number one. This guy bounced around to four

678
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: different high schools during his high school career, and it

679
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 2: wasn't because he was an army brat and his family

680
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: was moving or stuff like that. He just hopped to

681
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: wherever he thought he could win, and then did the

682
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: same thing in college when he was mad about not

683
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: getting the playing time he felt he deserved. And look,

684
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Speaker 2: I'm all for players looking for a better situation, but

685
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: here's the thing that rubbed me the wrong way. I'm

686
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: watching the college football playoff Georgia Alabama. Burton scores a

687
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: touchdown in that game, and Alabama ultimately wins that game

688
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: to go to the national title game against Michigan. After

689
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: the game, he is taunting Georgia fans, the school for

690
00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: whom he previously played, and is actually taunting parents of

691
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Speaker 2: his former teammates after the game. Look, it may be

692
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: a small thing to some people. To me, that doesn't

693
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: fit Bill's DNA. And so maybe you like the player,

694
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: maybe you like his production. That's a character issue.

695
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: For There were other instances in twenty twenty two after

696
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: a loss to Tennessee where there was an altercation with

697
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: a female fan. People were surprised that Luke Nick Saban

698
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: didn't suspend him.

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00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't pass the smell test for me on that regard.

700
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's got some stuff, some baggage he brings

701
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: with him.

702
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: So I mean, will he get drafted? Probably. I think

703
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: he's probably a Day two pick. So he's talented enough

704
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: to play in the league, but that'll knock him down

705
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: some people's boards considerably. Just saying, let's go to Bob

706
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 2: in connetic or Rob in Connecticut. What's up Rob?

707
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 14: And that's all right, Chris. You can call me Bob too.

708
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 14: People call me Bob.

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00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: That bothers some people, So I'm trying to do the

710
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: right thing there.

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Speaker 14: Well, actually my parents were the only ones that called

712
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 14: me Bob. So I'll give you a break because you're

713
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 14: affiliated with the Bills.

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00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll go that far.

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Speaker 14: How are you doing, Steve doing great?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming on, Rob.

717
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Speaker 14: Yeah, no problem. Thanks for always being here for me.

718
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 14: You guys are my eyes obviously, you know I can't see,

719
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 14: so I have to listen. There's so many you guys

720
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 14: have a great show today. You know, first thought was Milano,

721
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 14: and then you know, I was thinking that James Cook

722
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 14: I have both of their jerseys, and then I thought

723
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 14: about Russo. Russo was definitely a great pick for US.

724
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 14: I was very happy with that because he has you know,

725
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 14: he grew up in the military background. He had to discipline.

726
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 14: I respect him that he sat out his last year

727
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 14: with Miami. Uh he opted out because of COVID, but

728
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 14: he was still able to be disciplined to come into

729
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 14: the NFL and work with Bruce Myth, which was great.

730
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 14: He's proved himself and he's a great player. But also,

731
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Speaker 14: I gotta talk about Shakir. I love this kid. He

732
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 14: is going to do stuff for us.

733
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Speaker 15: He had a great.

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Speaker 14: Second season or yeah, second season, and just like James Cook,

735
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 14: they both had great second seasons and I'm just looking

736
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 14: forward to seeing what they do for this season. But

737
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Speaker 14: I like Shakira a lot. I even argued with Jeremy,

738
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 14: I think it should be our number two.

739
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean for a fifth round pick. Happened, Yeah,

740
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: what happened for a fifth round pick? That's a heck

741
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: of a selection. The fifth round has been very kind

742
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: to the Bills. Even if you just look at Milano

743
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: and Shakir, you get two studs like that out of

744
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: the fifth round, you're doing pretty dang good. Yeah, I

745
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: think Shakir is. Here's the biggest thing that I think

746
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: Shakiir got out of last year a huge dose of confidence.

747
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: And I know you can speak to that as a

748
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: player at that level far better than I can. But

749
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: the way that Josh came to rely on him down

750
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Speaker 2: the stretch and the plays he was able to deliver,

751
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 2: I think is going to do a world of good

752
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Speaker 2: for his confidence coming into year three.

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Speaker 3: I would agree. And listen, we talk about it all

754
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 3: the time. The third year in the league is a

755
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: big year for guys because after you know, they come

756
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 3: in their rookie season and you know your head spin.

757
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 3: And I mean, we had a one of the great

758
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: coach I ever played before was Nick nick Lau and

759
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: he tell the rookies on the first day he has

760
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: listened to you, guys, I'm you're gonna get a little

761
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: slack because when you come into the league and he

762
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: would draw a profile of a guy on the whiteboard

763
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 3: and you say, you get a little inflammation right here

764
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: in your brain when you're a rookie and it doesn't

765
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Speaker 3: go away until you're in the league for a year.

766
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: You just don't know how to do everything. You got

767
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 3: to find your own place to live, get your own

768
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: you know, get your own vehicle. You got to find

769
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: your own way to eat. You gotta find somebody to

770
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: cook for your cook for yourself. You know, you're you're

771
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: independent and and you know Division one, even division you

772
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: know lower division one schools. They those schools take care

773
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: of their players that are on scholarship, so they don't

774
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: really put too much on their plate. So you come

775
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: into the league and you're there, you kind of make

776
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: your way through, and then that second year you kind

777
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: of trying to figure out, Okay, how do I What

778
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: do I do? I got six months to do not

779
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: I don't have to go to class, I don't have

780
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: to do it. I can go home, I can live here.

781
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: What do I do? How do I? And you kind

782
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: of get that and that's all new and you play

783
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: your second year and then it's like, oh, I see

784
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: you see other draft picks coming in, Like you're like,

785
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: oh okay, I oh well, okay. Now, so the next

786
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: year you've got your off season set, you're lined up

787
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: in that third year, you come in and you hit

788
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 3: the ground running. And that's why this year for Khalishakir

789
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: could be a year where he says all right, I'm

790
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 3: let's go. It's a good. It's a good. I like

791
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: him too. He grew on me because Brownie will tell

792
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: you I was. I had doubts about him when they

793
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: drafted him and we saw him working out. I didn't

794
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: know if he was athletic enough. But I'll tell you what.

795
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: He gets open, he catches the ball and he does

796
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: something when he when he gets it in his hands

797
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: after he catches it. So I'm yeah, he he won

798
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: me over as well.

799
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Speaker 2: Eight oh three zero five point fifty one eight and

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two, five fifty Aside from Josh Allen,

801
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: who's been your favorite Bill's draft pick during the Bean

802
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: McDermott era, you let us know, got some phone lines

803
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: open for you more of your phone calls when we return.

804
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: Jack in Rochester, Dan and Buffalo will lead us off

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by col Out of Health.

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Speaker 16: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

808
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker wide open for your phone calls today as

809
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: we are discussing with you. Aside from Josh Allen, who's

810
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: been your favorite Bill's draft pick during the McDermott bean era,

811
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Speaker 2: to Jack in Rochester. We go next, what's up? Jack?

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00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 17: Well, I might tend to the Dawkins, because I think

813
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 17: that's a tough position to find in being got it

814
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 17: right on the first wing, which is pretty good. I

815
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 17: do have another story I'd like to share, if, if

816
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 17: you'll indulge me. Back when the Bills were playing Dallas

817
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 17: in December, I was with my mother over in the

818
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 17: emergency department at Strong Hospital here we're in Rochester, and

819
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 17: it was passed because it was the weekend. And so

820
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 17: there are like two people crammed into every cubicle, two

821
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 17: patients and people in the aisles, and there was this

822
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 17: ominous PA system always going, you know, stat stroke, you

823
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Speaker 17: know stroke, team stats, staff Stat Emergency treat Room six

824
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 17: of Stetter's Emergency Recovery Room sixteen, Emergency Emergency. So the

825
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 17: Bills game finally comes on, and I walked down the

826
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 17: aisle and you could see in every cubicle that game

827
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 17: is going, every nurses station, the game's going, and the

828
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 17: Bills will win. You know, it's kind of happy. And

829
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 17: then the ominous PA system strets up again. Are patients

830
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 17: and staff air patients and staff go Bills And then

831
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 17: you hear the shold people kind of coup of all

832
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 17: these six people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a welcome break from the demanding job that

834
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: all those people.

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Speaker 17: Have there for sure for the patients as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, interesting story, Jack, thanks for it. But yeah,

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00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: Dion Dawkins is a is a good pick. If I

838
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 2: remember right, they traded up to get him in round

839
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Speaker 2: two and twenty seventeen, and that was a Doug Whaley

840
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: pick with Sean McDermott as head coach, and then Bean

841
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: came in for the twenty eighteen draft. One guy we

842
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: have not heard mentioned yet, Steven, you and I mentioned it,

843
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 2: Tarren Johnson, fourth round pick in twenty eighteen and second

844
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: team All Pro last year. I mean, the guy plays

845
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: almost every snap on defense.

846
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has been unbelievable, it was, and we talk

847
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 3: about him all the time. He is the reason that

848
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: during their Leslie Fraser coordinating the defense, they never got

849
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 3: out of that personnel grouping. He was on the field

850
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 3: all the time. It was because of Tarn was who

851
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 3: he was and his ability to hold up in run

852
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: games when they'd go you know, they go light by boxes,

853
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: Tarren had to step up and take on you know,

854
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: offensive lineman coming around the edge and he held up

855
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: it was you know, it's that's that says a lot

856
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: about the guy, and.

857
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, he'd be my pick.

858
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's And then they now he just

859
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: signed his second extension. He signed a second contract, life

860
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 3: changing money. Now he signed another one. That's how important

861
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: he is.

862
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're still twenty eight.

863
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's Yes, he is a player who is

864
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: you know, as long as long as he stays here

865
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Speaker 3: in Buffalo. I mean I think you know he's going

866
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Speaker 3: to put in at least a decade for the Buffalo

867
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Speaker 3: Bills at a very high level. Yeah, yeah, no question

868
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: about it.

869
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to Dan in Buffalo next. What's up Dan?

870
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 18: Hey, I don't I just want to say, enjoy your show.

871
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 18: I'm more of the later rounds. I expect people in

872
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 18: the in the beginning rounds to be good. That's just

873
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 18: the way I think, right. I thought these two guys

874
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 18: were good in preseason, and not that I wish for

875
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 18: Tredavias White to get hurt, but we would have never

876
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 18: known about this guy if he didn't get hurt. I

877
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 18: think it's Shakira or Christian Benford for being that late

878
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 18: a round the best drafts that they had in this era.

879
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shakira is a five, Benford is a six. Yeah,

880
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean those those are pretty good fines late in

881
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: the draft, for sure. Absolutely, there's no question about that.

882
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: You got to hit some of the we talked about it.

883
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: You look at the draft classes that the Bean has

884
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: had over the last company. Even Dame Jackson as a

885
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: seventh round pick, was a serviceable player when he was here.

886
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 3: You know, Bayalon Specter is still on this sixth round, Pistor,

887
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 3: Christian Benford, sixth round pick, Shakir fifth round, Trell Bernard,

888
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: third round, James Cook, and Kyrie Elam. And I'll say

889
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: this too, You're I think Kyrie Elam is going to

890
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: turn some heads this year. I think the coaching staff

891
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: changes on that side of the football are going to

892
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 3: give him a fresh set of eyes and a fresh

893
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: evaluation of what he can do. He may get a

894
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 3: shot at it and resurrect his career because he you know,

895
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: we've all seen he's been on a roster and he's

896
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: made the team. He's been there, but he hasn't played much.

897
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: In fact, you know, famously, Christian Benford beat him out

898
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: on that opening day as a rookie. So all of

899
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: that stuff going on that draft class, but it's only

900
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 3: you know, this will be its third year, so you

901
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: expect those guys to kind of still be on the

902
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: roster because you know coaching staff that they takes a

903
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: while to talk him out of you know, the quality

904
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 3: of the draft picks. But you go back further, he

905
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: got Rousseau, Boogie Basham Spencer Brown. Rousseau and Brown are starters.

906
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: Doyle has been injury riddled, Marquis Stevenson not here, but

907
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: DeMar Hamlin's still on the roster playing well. Rashad wild

908
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 3: Goose still in the league with another team, and Jack

909
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: Anderson also still in the league with another team because

910
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: they think he's an indeed, they got plucked off the

911
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 3: practice squad. I mean, I can keep going. I mean

912
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 3: all these guys are NFL playing.

913
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: Teller was their fifth round pick and he's in all pro.

914
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, and not on this roster, but being being

915
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 3: his right like rolls every time, oh he killed he

916
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 3: every time you bring it, Vy rolls his eyes, He's like,

917
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: oh my god. So anyway, you know they are, they're

918
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 3: hitting it. And I'll say this too, it's not luck.

919
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,919
Speaker 3: It's the way they evaluate players and what they see

920
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: is important in players, and when those priorities change as

921
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: they get further further down the roster. So, for instance,

922
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: you go up in the in the high part of

923
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: the first round, you're looking at physical specimens almost across

924
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: the board, and you can kind of think, Okay, if

925
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: I can fill a need here, this guy's at least

926
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 3: going to be in there and be able to compete

927
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 3: really at a high level physically. And then the rest

928
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 3: of it, the character and the skill set and their

929
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 3: experience and the production follow along. But as you get

930
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: further and further down, it's like, I want to see

931
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: his DNA, Is this guy smart? Is he tough? And

932
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 3: does he want to be really good? And then the

933
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: physical stuff will take care of itself, you know. So

934
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: it changes as they move down through the draft board

935
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: because because you get a different quality of athlete and

936
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: different reasons why guys are really good. At the top

937
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: of the draft, these guys are better because they're physically

938
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: faster and stronger and tougher and taller and bigger than

939
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 3: dental students they're playing against at Vanderbilt. Nothing against Vanderbilt.

940
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 3: I'm using them as example.

941
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 2: They're a really good engineering school.

942
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, but they're dental students, so anyway, you know

943
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: that they can they can kind of coast through on that.

944
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: But now when you get further down in this draft,

945
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: you get a guy whose IQ is extremely high. He's

946
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 3: doing more with less and will continue to do that

947
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: at the next level. So they'll always kind of exceed expectations.

948
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 3: Guys like Christian Benford, Khalil Shakir, Tarren Johnson, Matt Mulano.

949
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: It's not you know, yeah, they're tough, but they're also

950
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 3: really intelligent and they and they got a work ethic

951
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: and they want to be great, so they're driven. You

952
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 3: don't have to stand there and give them a pep

953
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 3: talk every five minutes about what life's all about. They know.

954
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: So the way McDermott and Bean evaluate these guys is,

955
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's better than what other teams do.

956
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: That's just the way it is.

957
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: The results kind of bear that out. I gotta take

958
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: a break here, but still taking more of your phone

959
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 2: calls as we begin hour number two. After the break,

960
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: so Sean and Caitlin and Charlotte, Charles and Amherst and

961
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: others holding at eight h three oh five fifty. We'll

962
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: get to you when we return here on One Bill's

963
00:50:26,560 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

964
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calllida Health.

965
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: Nour number two here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown Steve

966
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: Tasker with you and taking a look at the Bean

967
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: McDermott draft era and just asking you, aside from Josh Allen,

968
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: who's been your favorite Bills draft pick during that period

969
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: of time. That's an interesting submission so far. A lot

970
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 2: of late round gems getting a lot of attention, as

971
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,240
Speaker 2: we would expect because it turns out to be pretty

972
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 2: extraordinary value quite frankly, so not surprised and keep them coming.

973
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 2: At eight oh three five point fifty one eight eight

974
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: five fifty two, five point fifty, we lead off this

975
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: hour with Sean and Kaitlin Downham, Charlotte, what's up?

976
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 3: Hello?

977
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 12: How are you good?

978
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: Let's go Buckalo, what you got for us?

979
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 19: Katie got to stay home from school today for a

980
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 19: little bit.

981
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 18: She loves the Bills and we all do here.

982
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: Awesome.

983
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 19: Dalton Kincaid, I mean hit the surehandness. I mean we

984
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 19: love Dawson Knox right, but we know about some of

985
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 19: his jobs, and I'm sure Josh loved it when he

986
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 19: was when he was drafted. I'm sure it gave him

987
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 19: a little of security that only Josh knows what.

988
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: That feels like.

989
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 19: But yeah, just to watch him all year has been fantastic.

990
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 19: Certainly excited to see him grow.

991
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

992
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 2: Broke the single season record in his rookie year for

993
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: receptions by a tight end, previously held by Steve's teammate

994
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: Pete metzel Ours Yeah and maybe rookie. Yeah, and he

995
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: did it as a rookie. So here's the thing, Steve.

996
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: I look at last year's draft because people are always

997
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: asking us, do you think Being's going to move up?

998
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: And I think it's largely going to be predicated on

999
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: what unfolds. If he has a player in mind that

1000
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 2: he feels they absolutely have to get in Round one

1001
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: that they covet and options are quickly disappearing. Look at

1002
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: last year's draft, there were three or four receivers that

1003
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: I think the Bills would have considered had they been

1004
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: on the board when Buffalo was picking, and you watch

1005
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: them all go right in a rows A Flowers, Jordan Addison,

1006
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: all those slot receivers, kind of went one, two, three,

1007
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: all in a row, and you're left holding the bag

1008
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 2: and you're like, Okay, we're gonna pivot here and get

1009
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,240
Speaker 2: the tight end. But we got a team right behind

1010
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 2: us in Dallas that may like him too. Let's get

1011
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: up there and make sure we got our guy. He

1012
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 2: moves up one spot to do it in a trade

1013
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: with Jacksonville, but gets Dalton Kincaid and boarded a pay

1014
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: off because in the second half of the season, Steve

1015
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 2: Diggs production kind of goes downhill a little bit. They're

1016
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 2: still waiting for Shakir to kind of emerge, and he did,

1017
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 2: but it was right around the same time that Dalton

1018
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: Kincaid caught fire and really kind of delivered when when

1019
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 2: Josh really needed it in the passing game.

1020
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: Kincaid had seventy three catches. Yeah, I mean, that's monster,

1021
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: and I think it's only going to go up. I

1022
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: do too. I agree. I think he's only going to

1023
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: go up, And I think Shakiir is only going to

1024
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: go up. And I think I think there's they They're

1025
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 3: gonna have plenty of weapons to do this, even notwithstanding

1026
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: the guy they're gonna draft at twenty eight. If he

1027
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 3: turns out to be another weapon. Uh, they got Curtis

1028
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: Samuel already on the roster. I mean that this thing

1029
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: is a wagon and they have done everything they can

1030
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: possibly do to stay at the top of the heap

1031
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: and the at least in the conference, and they're going

1032
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: to be there again. So I don't know, I just

1033
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: I just when you come, when it comes down to it,

1034
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: you're right. It's fun to pick these guys and to

1035
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: see these guys. Now Kincaid when Kincaid was picked, and

1036
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: I know Sean and Katie are saying Kinkaid is their

1037
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 3: favorite guy, but he's as he's a first round draft.

1038
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 3: I'll never forget that. I think it was Daniel Jeremiah.

1039
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 3: The night of the draft the Bills picked, the Bills

1040
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 3: picked Dalton Kinkaid, and Daniel Jeremiah goes, listen, if if

1041
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 3: the AFC, if the rest of these teams are gonna

1042
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: let Buffalo have this guy, they get what they deserve.

1043
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: He was right. Kincaid, as the season wore on, more

1044
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 3: and more was the guy at tight end. And I

1045
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: said this, and I hadn't said it publicly, Untilton, Now,

1046
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 3: don't I don't watch Kansas City Chiefs practice. I don't

1047
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 3: know what it looks like, but I you know, you

1048
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 3: think about you know, Travis Kelcey and stuff, and him

1049
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 3: and mahomes out there working. You see me in commercials

1050
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: and stuff. They got a good rapport and it's it's

1051
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: you know, they got to be buddies, right. I remember,

1052
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: and I told Brownie this, I said, I'm not gonna

1053
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: say it on the air. Now that it's almost a

1054
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: year later, I can kind of say it. If the

1055
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 3: Bills had traded for Travis Kelcey in the offseason last year,

1056
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: I would have expected Travis Kelcey to look exactly like

1057
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 3: Dalton Kinkaid did in practice in his first training camp.

1058
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 3: That's how good Dalton Kinkaid looked to me in training

1059
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 3: camp last year. Brownill vouch for me. I said it,

1060
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 3: and I don't want to say that on the air

1061
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: before the kid even takes a snap in the NFL.

1062
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I want to say, listen, let's wait. But

1063
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: that's what I thought. And seventy three catches later and

1064
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 3: only six hundred yards and plus limited appearances early in

1065
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: the season, you got to love where this guy's headed well.

1066
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: And I think he was one of the few examples

1067
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 2: of the coaching staff thrusting a rookie into a sizeable

1068
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: role in the training camp setting. That wasn't something that

1069
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: was often done either. I mean when Tradevius White and

1070
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmund's got put on the field day one in

1071
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: training camps because they didn't have anybody else. Yeah, I mean,

1072
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 2: you now think about this team and how advanced they

1073
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: were with veteran players, and here's Kinkaid getting thrust into

1074
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 2: a starting role day one of training camp. Same thing

1075
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: with Osirus Torrance. And I think you're going to see

1076
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: more of that this year because if the roster turnover

1077
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 2: and the departures of veterans that we've seen this offseason,

1078
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna happen again, which is why we've

1079
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 2: heard Brandon Bean say more than once this offseason. We've

1080
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: really got to hit on this draft, not just good

1081
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: players that will develop into starters for us, but players

1082
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: who can help us sooner rather than later. Beinning this

1083
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 2: year as rookies, because even.

1084
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: So last year, when they were so deep, they were

1085
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: neck deep, they they were odds on fam I mean,

1086
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: everybody was pointing towards the bills of being and they

1087
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: were they were a tough roster to make and all

1088
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: that they could. They weren't trying not to draft good

1089
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: players last year, but they knew whoever they drafted they

1090
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: weren't gonna.

1091
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: Have to depend on because they had some guys.

1092
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 3: They had a bunch of guys. This year, they're not

1093
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: so sure they may have to plug these guys in

1094
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: ready or not. So they really feel like the pressures

1095
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 3: on them to make sure these guys are going to

1096
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 3: be the ones now. It brings a tough question is

1097
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 3: we've had these conversations on draft day. Some of these

1098
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: guys come in, they go, you know what, this guy

1099
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 3: is going to be more ready to play right now.

1100
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 3: But this like I consider like an Xavier Legette and

1101
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: Lad McConkey in this mcconk is, I think you can

1102
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: plug and play a little bit more. Xavier leget You're

1103
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 3: gonna have to work him in. He's gonna have to

1104
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: prove in the year of production. Yeah, you're gonna have

1105
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: to kind of like, Okay, let's let's try him in

1106
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 3: small doses. McConkie will be like Kinkaid. You'll plug him

1107
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 3: in at the axe and he's gonna go. Those are

1108
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 3: but if Xavier legets the player you think he is,

1109
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be but half a year before legets

1110
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 3: on the field. All the time Mconkey's sitting on the bench.

1111
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: If you have him on the same team. You know

1112
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, higher ceiling, There's a higher ceiling. So

1113
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: that's the question marks that you come up in a

1114
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 3: in a year like this in the draft, where listen,

1115
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to depend on this kid right away. Now,

1116
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: this guy's ceiling's higher, but this guy the floor is higher,

1117
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: you know, and he we gotta depend you know what

1118
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: I mean? Those are the conversations you gotta have.

1119
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Charles and Amherst.

1120
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

1121
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 20: Charles, Hi, gentlemen, last time I spoke with you, I

1122
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 20: was mentioned and I wanted Cook to get out in

1123
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 20: the open field more on passing routes than he scored

1124
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 20: a touchdown that week. So let's hope I'm right about

1125
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 20: this one. Kyrie Elam, I really think he's gonna have

1126
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 20: a breakout season. I think the defensive scheme, I just

1127
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 20: didn't think he caught onto it fast as we would

1128
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 20: have wiped them to but I think he's getting it

1129
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 20: more toward the end of the season, and I think

1130
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 20: with more competition coming in, I think he's gonna have

1131
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,959
Speaker 20: a breakout season as a number one, you know, first

1132
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 20: round pick.

1133
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 5: I really do.

1134
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 12: I'll hang up and listen, guys, Rubby Show, Brownie, you call.

1135
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 20: Them best games in the world, Steve, if you did

1136
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 20: on CBS two, love you guys, go build.

1137
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: Thanks, Charles, appreciate that. I mean, you're you're preaching to

1138
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: the choir here. I mean, Steve and I have been

1139
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: some of the few proponents of Kyrie Elam all the

1140
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: way through. I don't know. I think he I think

1141
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 2: this is the best situation he walks into since he's

1142
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: been in a Bill's uniform to compete for a starting job.

1143
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: I think there were some forces working against him, right, wrong,

1144
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: or indifferent. I don't think those exist anymore, and so

1145
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: I think that he will get a fair shake to

1146
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: try to win a starting job. Whether they want him

1147
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: to compete with Benford or whether they want him to

1148
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: compete with Rasul Douglas on the other side, those are

1149
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: the top three guys as it stands right now. I

1150
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: think they could draft one somewhere in the somewhere on

1151
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: day three to add to the mix. Because you've lost

1152
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 2: Dan Jackson, you had to cut it avi as white

1153
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: as a cap casualty. So there is room for additions there.

1154
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: But I think Elam in year three is going to

1155
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: go down the path of other year three players in

1156
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: Bill's uniforms who have really blossomed. Whether it's Spencer Brown,

1157
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 2: Tarren Johnson, you can run down the list, Dawson Knox,

1158
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: he had a nine touchdown season in year three. I mean,

1159
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: there are a long list of Bill's players who in

1160
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: year three have really blossomed. And much like you, Charles,

1161
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: I think Steve and I are both hoping for that

1162
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: for him this year because he is an elite physical

1163
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 2: trait player, so he can just put it together with

1164
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: the system.

1165
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 3: He can really shine this and this year might be

1166
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 3: Taylor made the situation for him to do exactly what

1167
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 3: I think he needs to do. He just needs to

1168
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: be on the field more. YEA, for whatever reason. Maybe

1169
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: maybe yeah, maybe it was because of his high ceiling

1170
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 3: but low low floor that he kept him that kept

1171
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 3: him off the field, because you know Benford, his floor

1172
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 3: was higher than Elams was and they were playing opposite

1173
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 3: Tredavius or opposite Dane Jackson or or Rasull Douglas, and

1174
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 3: they wanted a guy over there that was just gonna

1175
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 3: be steady and they didn't have any ups and downs.

1176
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 3: And remember it was it was even evident in the

1177
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 3: in the game that he played against Pittsburgh this year,

1178
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 3: yet like two plays in a row where he had

1179
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: a penalty and the third play had a pick in

1180
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: the end zone and the end zone, so you know,

1181
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 3: that's the kind of roller coaster. I think he might

1182
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 3: have to suffer through to get kay Ye to the

1183
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 3: level you wanted to be at. But I think that

1184
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 3: level's in there, and it's and the consistency will be

1185
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: in there too, the more reps he takes. I think

1186
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: this is the perfect year to kind of, you know,

1187
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 3: kind of hang in there with him until he works

1188
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: through that.

1189
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to the phones and to Pete in Rochester.

1190
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: What's up Pete?

1191
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 5: Hey, Thanks Chris. My favorite pick is Harrison Phillips. I

1192
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 5: remember the night when we read asked Pancho Bila aka

1193
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 5: Ezra Castro to come up on stage and he announced

1194
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 5: Harrison Phillips. I thought that that was great and what

1195
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 5: tears me up even more was the following year, when

1196
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 5: from his hospital bed, he picked Ed Oliver. So I

1197
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 5: just those are my favorite picks, and they're more emotional

1198
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 5: than analytical, I hope.

1199
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. That's a different twist to put

1200
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: on the topic today, Pete, I'm glad you did it. Yeah,

1201
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 2: that's certainly an iconic fan moment in the history of

1202
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: Bills fans for sure. And yeah, Brandon Bean actually called

1203
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 2: Ezra Castro in his hospital bed and said, hey, we're

1204
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 2: leaning this way. You like that pick, and He's like, yeah,

1205
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: let's do it, which was awesome. So yeah, really I

1206
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 2: could see why you why you thought that, you know,

1207
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: from an emotional standpoint, because I still remember Fred Jackson

1208
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 2: and Andre Reid there they're standing there at the lectern

1209
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: and you know they got they called Poncho up to

1210
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: call the pick, and yeah, he was blown away. It

1211
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: was pretty cool.

1212
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good stuff. Yeah, and that's Hey, you don't

1213
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 3: have to apologize for having an emotional pick rather than

1214
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: yeah I like it.

1215
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: It's and Harrison, there's another guy still playing in the league,

1216
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: signed a big contract with Minnesota, still playing in the league.

1217
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if anybody would call him

1218
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: an elite physical trade player, but he's a grinder. You know.

1219
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: It's a shame he lost one of his years here

1220
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: due to an ACL injury. Didn't really get to play

1221
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: probably as much as he wanted to on his rookie

1222
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: contract here, but he did enough to parlay it into

1223
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: a nice second contract as a free agent, and he's

1224
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: still up there in Minnesota. Let's go to Aaron out

1225
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 2: in Oregon. I've got these West Coast calls a lot

1226
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 2: lately here, Steve, what's up Aeron?

1227
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 12: Hey?

1228
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 8: Hey, I'm actually on spring break. I'm a teacher, so

1229
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 8: I get to be in real time rather than listening

1230
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 8: to you guys after work. So that's why I'm calling

1231
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 8: this week. But first I want to say I'm really

1232
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 8: thankful for being in McDermott after suffering through the drought

1233
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 8: and the mid eighties. Anybody that's saying fire these guys,

1234
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 8: they need their head examined, because these guys have done

1235
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 8: amazing for us and keep us relevant year after year.

1236
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 8: So whenever I read that, I'm just rolling my eyes.

1237
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 8: But I think for me it's it's Benford and then

1238
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 8: also Osarius Osiris Torrance, And you know, I was hoping

1239
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 8: we'd get Osius in round one, and when we didn't,

1240
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 8: you know, I understood we need weapons, but I was like, oh,

1241
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 8: we need line, we need to protect Josh. And then

1242
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 8: when he sell to us, I was just elated because

1243
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 8: you know, everybody was mocking him to us in round one,

1244
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 8: so when we.

1245
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 2: Got him later, it's like a bogo deal.

1246
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was great. Right, So anyway, thanks for all

1247
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 8: you guys doing.

1248
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 20: I'll let you guys.

1249
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: Repond appreciate that. Aaron, thanks for calling. Yeah, I mean

1250
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: we saw that leading up to the draft last year.

1251
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: People are like, ah, Bill's got to get a lineman

1252
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,479
Speaker 2: and got to refortify the line, this, that and the other.

1253
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 2: And yeah, I know, Steve, we've talked about it before.

1254
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: There are a lot of people in the Bills fan

1255
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: base who respect offensive line play more than an average

1256
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: team's fan base. Like there is respect for the old

1257
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: line amongst the Bills fan base more than maybe any

1258
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 2: other I've ever been around, well maybe with the exception

1259
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh. Right, they respect line play too.

1260
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 3: The Bills went through and when Josh played as a rookie,

1261
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: and even in two thousand and nine, especially in twenty nineteen,

1262
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 3: when they started to build it around him. I thought

1263
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 3: they really they kind of got away from placing an

1264
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: importance on it. And then finally in twenty twenty they said, listen,

1265
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: we're going to fix it, and they and they did.

1266
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 3: And even in twenty twenty two, I believe you know,

1267
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 3: they didn't feel like they were strong enough up inside,

1268
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 3: and they tried to fill it with some free agents

1269
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: and guys, and they said, listen, we're going to do it.

1270
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 3: And so they they went out and got mcgoverned and

1271
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 3: drafted Osiriswards and signed David Edwards. They had Vandermark as

1272
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 3: a backup tackle. I mean, they've got some guys, and

1273
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 3: Spencer Brown emerged into his role. I mean, they got

1274
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 3: some guys. So I agree with that. I mean, you're right,

1275
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: Bills fans appreciate it. It's a hard league to run

1276
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: the football in. But I think the Bills last year

1277
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: were in a position where they ran the ball whenever

1278
01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 3: they wanted to and not just when they had to.

1279
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 3: And it's a subtle difference that makes a big difference

1280
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 3: when teams are lined up against him, and that's really

1281
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: all you're asking for. It's not a running league.

1282
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just remember taking calls last year and people

1283
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: are like, we got to get the lineman in round one,

1284
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: and then they go Kincaid and all those people that

1285
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 2: wanted linemen are like, ah got And then in the

1286
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 2: second round Torrance is still there and the Bills take him.

1287
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 2: They're like, oh yeah, yeah. Felt like a buy one,

1288
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: get one deal in the first two rounds for Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: So the board really fell nicely for them after round

1290
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 2: one where he was still sitting there for them to

1291
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Speaker 2: take in round two. Who do we got up next to? Here?

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Speaker 2: Next up is Carol in Tonawanda. What we got for us? Carol?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 21: Hello, My all time favorite is Milano and I like

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01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 21: Russo too. I have to say I really enjoy watching

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 21: all of her play. He's just loving what he's doing,

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01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 21: and he's a great player. I'm glad to hear that

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01:07:56,640 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 21: someone finally spoke up for Osibus Torrence. I think he's great.

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01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 21: He's quiet, he puts his heads down, he worked hard,

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01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 21: he played every game last year, and here's one of

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01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 21: my picks. So I'm glad someone before me had even

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01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 21: called in about him as well.

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: So thanks thanks for echoing, Carol. That's fine. Yeah, people,

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01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 2: I don't think people forget, but these guys play every

1305
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: snap on offense, every single one. I think of horrence

1306
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: to do that as a rookie in a seventeen game season,

1307
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:34,520
Speaker 2: not to mention playoffs. If think about this, that's an adjustment.

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01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 3: I know it's offensive guard, and that just kind of

1309
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 3: it's an illustration of, you know, kind of the way

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01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 3: we all think about the game and stuff. Could you

1311
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 3: imagine a player at any other position, like kin kid

1312
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 3: at tight end didn't do it, Tredavius did way back

1313
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen, and and Tremaine, a rookie draft pick,

1314
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 3: coming in and taking every snap of the season.

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01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's big.

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01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: No other position could have done it because they're not

1317
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: even allowed to these days. Outside they're not allowed, but yeah,

1318
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 3: outside of quarterback, they'ren't even allowed to because everybody rotates.

1319
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 3: The defensive line rotates, you know, corners sometimes don't it.

1320
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 3: Tight Ends are rotating, different personnel settings, running backs, the committee, linebackers,

1321
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 3: different personnel groupings. I mean, it's it's really impressive when

1322
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: you think about this season Osiris Torrents put together. It

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01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: really is.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Bill out and Old Forge. What's up Bill?

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01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, just drop hip tackle or whatever they're calling

1326
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 6: it that they're banning from the league. Hey man, look,

1327
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 6: I saw the video that they're showing, and I'm watching

1328
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 6: it thinking thesus looking like pretty much normal tackles to me.

1329
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 6: I mean, the game's fast, the hitting is hard. That's football.

1330
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 6: That's why we love it. That's why we watch it.

1331
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 6: That's why people play it. Even the players, that's why

1332
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 6: they play it. Other than getting paid. They played because

1333
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 6: we love the game. Who's gonna want to play defense

1334
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 6: in Pop Warner football or high school anymore? When you

1335
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 6: can't even tack? I mean the video I'm watching, I

1336
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 6: don't understand how they're gonna call that during a game.

1337
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 6: A halfback outweighs you say, I don't know. Let's go

1338
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 6: Naji Harris or Derrek Henry. They're coming around the corner

1339
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 6: full speed. You're your Trenavious wide or whoever, Kyrie Elam

1340
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 6: you're getting a holds of them, or Dane Jackson. You

1341
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 6: got him, You got a hold of them. They got

1342
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 6: the angle on you. You're a little bit behind him. What

1343
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 6: are you gonna just let them make you look like

1344
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 6: a fool and just drag you down the field. Twenty

1345
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 6: thirty forty yards or are you gonna be able to

1346
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 6: use your weight to get them down? Do what you

1347
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 6: gotta do to get him to the ground. If they

1348
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,440
Speaker 6: call this penalty they've already taken. You can't hit the receivers,

1349
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 6: you can't hit the cornerback. Now, you can't drag down

1350
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 6: a running back. If they call this, Oh my god,

1351
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 6: I don't know who's gonna watch football anymore. I'm not

1352
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,480
Speaker 6: even I'm not even exaggerating either, Like it will be unwatchable.

1353
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 6: This won't be football anymore if they call this this penalty.

1354
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 6: I don't know what to wait and see. I guess

1355
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 6: how much they call it. But I honestly think the

1356
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 6: game's gonna be unwatchable. I don't I don't want to

1357
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 6: watch all offense. And that's it. We got helmets on.

1358
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 6: Let's hit each other a little. But you know what

1359
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 6: I mean, it's tackle football. It's not flag football.

1360
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll say this.

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01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 3: It's not It doesn't happen every play, and it doesn't

1362
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 3: happen every time a guy trat tackles a guy from behind.

1363
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 3: There they'll figure it out, certainly. What will happen is

1364
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: you'll get more guys like in finger quotes, and we

1365
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 3: used to get I used to think about this all

1366
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 3: the time when I was tackling guys. You feel like

1367
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 3: you're throwing yourself under the wheels of a chariot, you know,

1368
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 3: the old Roman chariot with four horses, and you're gonna

1369
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,719
Speaker 3: stop it. You got to get in front of the horses, right,

1370
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: And that's what you're gonna have to do to tackle

1371
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: these guys is getting either get in front of them,

1372
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 3: throw your head across their legs and pull them down

1373
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 3: across your body, or grab them around the waist and

1374
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 3: get yourself around in front of them pull them down

1375
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 3: across you that way as well. Now you still can

1376
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 3: tackle them from behind, yeah, but you have to trackle

1377
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 3: their gather their legs and pull them and pull them down.

1378
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 3: That's different than dropping your weight on the back of

1379
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 3: their legs. Your hips and your your your legs don't

1380
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 3: go on the back of their legs. So if you're

1381
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 3: going to tackle them from behind, you can still do it.

1382
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 3: If if you just grab them and pull them down,

1383
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: you can't. You just can't jump on their leg on

1384
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 3: the back of their legs.

1385
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 2: You're right, you can't lift your body weight off the

1386
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: ground and then swing it into the lower half of

1387
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: the ball carrier's legs to bring them down.

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01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 3: Bill from Old Forge, I get it. You're right, and

1389
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 3: I'll say this. I was thinking about this long term

1390
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 3: and the big picture, and it's hard to envision this

1391
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 3: because of the absolute massive entity that the NFL is

1392
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 3: in our country and our culture. It's hard to envision

1393
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 3: it not being around. But one of the hintless face it,

1394
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 3: one of the thing reasons it's so compelling is the

1395
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 3: physicality of these big dudes. If players safety and safety

1396
01:12:54,400 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 3: concerns and the limitations of physicality so far, you could

1397
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 3: see that being the thing that starts to drain the

1398
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,919
Speaker 3: interest out of the game. It's just not that physical anymore.

1399
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 3: It's just it's not the same spectacle that it once was.

1400
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 3: The further and further down this road that there go

1401
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 3: that they go, or are forced to go by the

1402
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 3: players union or public opinion or perception or what the

1403
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 3: concussion thing or whatever whatever it is, the further down

1404
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 3: the road they go with player safety, the further the

1405
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 3: game is going to look more like like the NBA

1406
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:40,799
Speaker 3: in comparison to the nineteen nineties NBA like current hockey

1407
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 3: as opposed to the nineteen sixties in hockey. And if

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01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 3: you if you're not familiar with that, I would invite

1409
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 3: you to go online and try and find some stuff because,

1410
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 3: and like I'd keep telling on this show, in the

1411
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 3: nineteen sixties and seventies, in the National Football League, it

1412
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 3: was half a step above a bar fight. But those kinds,

1413
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: that kind of physical reality, builds interest. And as people's

1414
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 3: interests grew, they wanted to see they wanted to see

1415
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 3: guys making plays. They want to see guys throwing the

1416
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: football and catching it and running with it. But there's

1417
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 3: also got to be the other side of that. You've

1418
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 3: got at some point be able to play defense. And

1419
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: we are in the midst of a trend that has

1420
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 3: been happening, now what for decade or two over the

1421
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 3: game becoming finger quotes safer by not allowing certain types

1422
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 3: of tackles and certain types of defensive tactics in the

1423
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 3: physicality end of the game to happen. Where it ends,

1424
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 3: we don't know, but I'll say this, for right now,

1425
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 3: the game is still the only thing on TV. But

1426
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 3: we can all sense that maybe that will change in

1427
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 3: the future. And this may be one Avenue that it happens.

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01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but more of your

1429
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: phone calls when we come back. Aside from joh Allen,

1430
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: who's been your favorite Bill's draft pick during the McDermott

1431
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: bean era, We'll lead off with Steve and Syracuse and

1432
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: others holding at eight oh three oh five fifty when

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01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: we return here on One Bills Live, presented by to

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01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back

1435
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, having a little fun, a

1436
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 2: little trip down memory lane in the drafts and the

1437
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 2: Bean McDermott era, asking you, besides Josh Allen, who is

1438
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 2: your favorite draft pick during the Bean m McDermott era.

1439
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: And we are including twenty seventeen, even though Bean didn't

1440
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,839
Speaker 2: oversee that draft. McDermott was here, so twenty seventeen counts.

1441
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: But let's get back to the phones and see what

1442
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 2: you gotta say. We go to Steven Syracuse next. What's up, Steve?

1443
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 4: My favorite Matt Mulano. You're tired? He doesn't quit. I

1444
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 4: love the guy and he was a round pick. My

1445
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 4: second and my second idea here is a running back.

1446
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 4: I guess we had Harris just retire, and I just

1447
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 4: want to know your opinion on getting another either free

1448
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 4: agency running back or right in the draft itself. There's

1449
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 4: some running basically behaved later in the draft. One kid

1450
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 4: I know, I don't have his name, and he was

1451
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 4: he's from a Texas A and m quite a good

1452
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 4: running back, and I thought maybe it's somebody might may consider.

1453
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 4: Then I also wanted to know what happened, ever happened

1454
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 4: to Luke Picone and Joe de la malor. Joe here

1455
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 4: is a good friend of mine. Just talk to him

1456
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 4: all the time before the games.

1457
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, see, thanks, thanks for the call.

1458
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 3: Joe Delamalure. I don't know if you've heard winning the

1459
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.

1460
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he still lives in Charlotte, so he

1461
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 2: lives down there. As far as Lou I know, he

1462
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: lived locally for a long time. I'm not sure if

1463
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 2: he still lives here.

1464
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: At least once a year at h at the Ralph

1465
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 3: Wilson Memorial Golf Tournament. So I'm, you know, loose, lose

1466
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 3: a friend of mine. So at least I for my part,

1467
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 3: I considered a friend. I don't know what he says

1468
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 3: about me when I'm not a run so so uh yeah,

1469
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 3: and the kid and the school that he said, uh

1470
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 3: with Texas and Texas, A and M.

1471
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 2: They've got my linebacker that I love.

1472
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, Edgrian Brooks, No, edgerrind Cooper Cooper, I'm sorry, sorry.

1473
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: You're thinking of You're thinking of Jonathan Brooks, the Texas

1474
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 2: running back. He's considered by many to be the best

1475
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 2: in the class. Yeah. I mean, they're always running backs

1476
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 2: to be had late in the draft, and the Bills

1477
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: under Bean have have done that. Well, maybe not at

1478
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: the running back position per se, but I remember they

1479
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 2: had an undrafted kid in here, Raheem black Shear, who

1480
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: now is with the Carolina Panthers. There's another guy who

1481
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: was on the practice squad that got poached yea and

1482
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 2: is still in the league.

1483
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 3: The Yeah, I'll say this, they signed Ty Johnson back. Yes,

1484
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 3: they got James Cook. So I were to wait, I

1485
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 3: would say this, they will wait, and I will I

1486
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 3: will bet. I'm not gonna bet. I never wager, but

1487
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 3: it's my call that the guy they do sign is

1488
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: six foot plus two hundred and fifteen pounds plus. I

1489
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 3: think the guy's going to be a bone breaker. The

1490
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 3: third guy on their roster. Okay, So whoever you go

1491
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 3: down the list of prospects, whether he's a seventh rounder

1492
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 3: or YadA, YadA YadA.

1493
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: Well, I remember the kid I mentioned on yesterday's show,

1494
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: Isaiah Davis from South Dakota State. They had a really

1495
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: good season last year and he goes six foot two eighteen.

1496
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 3: My guy is that kid I said yesterday, Braylan Allen.

1497
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 3: He's six one, two thirty five runs of four to four.

1498
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: That's the dude, Okay, Braylen Allen. You here.

1499
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: In fact, I may write him on the whiteboard if

1500
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 3: he if he's available, because he's there's you know, he's

1501
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: like listed like ninth or eighth or ninth on the

1502
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: list of running backs in this draft, and there isn't

1503
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 3: gonna be a first round running back in this draft.

1504
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 3: I would think. So he's gonna be available for the

1505
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 3: Bills in those one hundred and one hundred and ten

1506
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 3: through one hundred and whatever. Let's see the full order,

1507
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 3: the one ten through one twenty eight, uh one are

1508
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 3: the one twenty eight, one thirty three, one thirty three. Yeah,

1509
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 3: one twenty eight, one thirty three. They've got a one

1510
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 3: forty four and they got a one sixty. Okay, so

1511
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 3: they're got he's gonna be somewhere in there if and

1512
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 3: maybe even later if he's If he's around, he could

1513
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 3: be the two forty eighth pick for all I know,

1514
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 3: the two hundredth pick, the two o four pick. Uh,

1515
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 3: the Bills one to eighty nine pick. So they got

1516
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 3: a ton of them. And if you're asking me what

1517
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: I think about a running back, the Bill's going to

1518
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 3: take him. I'm taking Braylan Allen six' one two thirty

1519
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 3: five runs a four four out of Wisconsin.

1520
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's going to be there on

1521
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: the latter stages of day three. You better get an

1522
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 2: early pick in in round four if you want that guy.

1523
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: He might be gone around three.

1524
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 3: He made that freak List.

1525
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so he's got to be.

1526
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: There, you go. I'm but if you're gonna that's the thing,

1527
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 3: Ty Johnson showed some juice last year. Brand and I

1528
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 3: both have high hopes for him once again. And they

1529
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 3: got James Cook, of course, who's going to be the

1530
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 3: lead dog in the whole thing. And if you're gonna

1531
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 3: bring a young guy who's gonna be sprinkled in, bring

1532
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 3: in a dude that is an absolute hammer hammer, I

1533
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 3: mean a big dude. So that's that's my call.

1534
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: Yeah. We were talking to Charles Davis at the combine

1535
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: and he was putting the call out, tell Brandon, I

1536
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: want a big hammer at running back. I was like,

1537
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 2: all right, well, we'll pass it along. I'm sure he's

1538
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 2: up on it, but I don't know if it's going

1539
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 2: to happen early in the draft. Over to Kevin in Pittsburgh.

1540
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: What's up? Kevin?

1541
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 15: Hey, Chris and Steve. It's really a pleasure to speak

1542
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 15: with both of you. I'm a buffalo dave of being

1543
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 15: in the Pittsburgh area. In fact, my wife is a

1544
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:10,799
Speaker 15: Pittsburgh native and she has switched allegiances from the Steelers

1545
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 15: to the Bill.

1546
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: So wow, Kevin, well done. My goodness, that's that's enough

1547
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 2: road a ho. How'd you pull that off?

1548
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 7: It took a few years, a lot of a lot

1549
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 7: of begging and help around the house.

1550
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 2: Good for you. No longer a house divided, Bravo.

1551
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,759
Speaker 15: I got to tell you, guys, when I'm at the gym,

1552
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,520
Speaker 15: I'm not listening to music. It's it's you, guys. I

1553
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 15: just love the show. You're both very well spoken. You

1554
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 15: really do a great job. So thanks for what you

1555
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 15: guys do every day. Yeah, and Steve, just to let

1556
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 15: you know, my brother is a Northwestern alum and my

1557
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 15: niece is there now, so a couple of connections there.

1558
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 3: Good stuff.

1559
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 15: Absolutely, and Steve, I really hope you get in that

1560
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 15: Hall of Fame. You definitely definitely deserve it, as many

1561
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 15: of us feel that you do.

1562
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1563
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 15: Sol just wanted to men to you. Absolutely, Steve and Hey.

1564
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 15: Other than Josh Allen, my favoriteftick and the Shan McDermott

1565
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 15: Brandon bean Era, it's a guy whose name has been

1566
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 15: brought up quite a bit here, and that's Matt Milano.

1567
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 15: And my vote for Matt for several reasons. First of all,

1568
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 15: it's kind of interesting. The corporation that I worked for

1569
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 15: for over three decades is the same one that Matt

1570
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 15: Mlano's father and his grandfather were employed by for many years.

1571
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 15: In fact, my hiring manager also manage Matt's father years later,

1572
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 15: and I knew of Matt's grandfather when I was working

1573
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 15: for this company. That so, Also, Matt and I share

1574
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 15: the same birthday. I'm a geriatric, I'm about thirty years

1575
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 15: older than Matt, but we share the same birthdate. But

1576
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 15: most importantly the reason I select Matt. I mean, you

1577
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 15: think about it, the guy, as you mentioned before see

1578
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 15: fifth round draft pick. In my opinion, he's really one

1579
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 15: of the bright faces of the defense right there in

1580
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 15: the middle of the d. The guy's hard knows plays instinctively,

1581
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 15: I mean metaphorically speaking. If he gets knocked down, he

1582
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 15: gets back up. This guy's got a nose for the

1583
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 15: ball and it just really shows up every game he's in.

1584
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 15: You can always count on the guy. So he was

1585
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 15: an absolute steal in the fifth round. So Matt's got

1586
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 15: my vote.

1587
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for the call, Kevin, appreciate it. Wow,

1588
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 2: it was a lot there, But yeah, Milano, he's I

1589
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: think he's kind of the clubhouse leader right now, right

1590
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 2: all the calls today.

1591
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can kind of you could anticipate it happening.

1592
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy's been an unbelievable player and an

1593
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 3: enormous value and he's he makes he's a playmaker. He's

1594
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 3: a big hits big TA two years ago. He just

1595
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 3: does so much, really well, and he's and he's totally

1596
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 3: non flamboyant. I mean he is totally.

1597
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 2: He is a self described minimalist. Yeah, whether it's this house,

1598
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 2: you can picture his life. The guy, you know, like

1599
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: two pieces of furniture.

1600
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: He's got a TV, a lawn chair, and a folding

1601
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 3: table in his house, and you know that's it. That's

1602
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 3: kind of the way he plays football too. It's yeah.

1603
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 3: So he's appealing on the surface for a lot of

1604
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 3: football fans because of the way he plays, and obviously

1605
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 3: his personality is you never hear from him. He just

1606
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 3: does the job.

1607
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 2: It's yeah.

1608
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a fun guy to watch, no question.

1609
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 2: All Right, we go to Judy in Buffalo next. What's up, Judy?

1610
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 22: Yeah, I joined the program late today, so I don't

1611
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 22: know if anybody mentioned this man, and I don't even

1612
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 22: know if he was drafted by McDermott and Bean. But

1613
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 22: you know, to me, the most important person on that

1614
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 22: line is the genial giant Dan Dawkins. And I'm sure

1615
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 22: that Josh Allen shares my convictions in this respect.

1616
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was a pick by McDermott. Bean was

1617
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 2: not here yet, so he does count twenty seventeen, Judy.

1618
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: They traded up in round two to get him, And yes,

1619
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: he was mentioned once before, but it's still a good

1620
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 2: choice nonetheless, so we thank you for making it. I mean,

1621
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: the guy's been a stalwart over there. I don't think

1622
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: there's any question about it. Multiple Pro Bowls on his resume,

1623
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 2: so you know he's and an all star in the

1624
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: community as well.

1625
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 3: He's a money player, plays a money position, and he

1626
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 3: plays it really well and he loves doing it and

1627
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 3: then he shows it. It's a lot to like. It's

1628
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 3: a lot to like.

1629
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, really good job on all the choices today.

1630
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 2: We appreciate those, and I'll check really quick to see

1631
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: what some of the choices were on the tweet sheet,

1632
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 2: which is brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, official

1633
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 2: equipment moving company. The Buffalo Bills and Lauren said, I've

1634
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 2: only seen him for a season, but Dalton Kincaid is

1635
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 2: a star in the making. That's her pick. David says,

1636
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 2: Tear Johnson, there we go, Taron Johnson, dude is a

1637
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: walking highlight reel. I had three fumble recoveries or three

1638
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: force fumbles last year from a nickel corner position from

1639
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: Bill's reddit Osirius Torrance because I wanted to draft him

1640
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,520
Speaker 2: so bad and Bean went and did it.

1641
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 3: It's nice to be right.

1642
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: Right, Ryan says James Cook a breakout season last year,

1643
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 2: and I believe we haven't seen him reach his full potential.

1644
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 2: Excited to see his game evolve in this upcoming season

1645
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: and beyond. Brandon says Taron Johnson. Even before him being

1646
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: named All Pro, he was arguably the most consistent defensive

1647
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 2: player on the roster. I would agree with that. I mean,

1648
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: after Trudevi has got hurt and missed time, I mean

1649
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 2: Tredavi's was ridiculously consistent. Tarn right there with him, Tarn

1650
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 2: right there with him. Let me see who else do

1651
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 2: we have? Oh? Ben getting cute here?

1652
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1653
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:56,480
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman had picked twenty eight and twenty twenty.

1654
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 3: Four, picking a guy that he wants him to draft, right.

1655
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be my favorite. Okay, fair enough. I

1656
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 2: like the clever way you went about answering the question.

1657
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: I'll give you credit for that. And then John says,

1658
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,759
Speaker 2: Milano is the last man stunning there for this subject

1659
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: going into twenty twenty four. Stay healthy and have a stump.

1660
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 2: We stay healthy. We have a stumpy beast. I don't

1661
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: think he's stumpy. Maybe I'm missing the definition of stumpy,

1662
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 2: but no, So we'll take a break here and get

1663
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: some final thoughts on the tweet sheet because we're up

1664
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: against the clock. We'll be back with some final choices

1665
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet here. Favorite Bill's draft pick besides

1666
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: Josh Allen in the McDermott bean era. We'll back with

1667
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 2: that in a second here on One Bill's Live. All right,

1668
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker,

1669
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 2: some final picks on best draft choices besides Josh Allen

1670
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: and the Bean McDermott era. Dan says, Christian Benford, Adam

1671
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 2: says Milano, Maddie says, call me crazy, but I think

1672
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams is gonna end up being a home run pick.

1673
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: And Philip says, Ray White got a tattoo of him

1674
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 2: on my arm. At his family before the Green Bay game.

1675
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: They facetimed his mom and him both to show them

1676
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 2: my Tray White tattoo. Great player, great man, great vibes,

1677
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 2: fun to watch and listen to. Yeah, we'll miss him

1678
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: for sure, Steve. We've got the Easter holiday coming up

1679
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Happy Easter to everybody out there. By the way,

1680
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 2: we will not have to show tomorrow or Monday to

1681
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 2: enjoy the Easter holiday ourselves. Give me your best jelly

1682
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 2: bean brand, because I've got one brand, no brand. There

1683
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: is a certain brand of jelly beans that blows away

1684
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 2: the competition, Starburst jelly beans. Really, go get a bag,

1685
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 2: you'll you'll down the whole bag. You're seriously and I'm

1686
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 2: not even a big jelly bean guy. My family's addicted.

1687
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 2: We have to get two bags, like two weeks before

1688
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: Easter to make it to Easter because they shovel him down, like.

1689
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm more of a chocolate guy, Are.

1690
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 2: You really okay than the so you got the big

1691
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: chocolate Yeah, that used to be.

1692
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 3: Now, No, we just get the like either her She's

1693
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 3: kisses or or regular chocolate bunny things in foil, you know, all.

1694
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 2: The foil foil eggs.

1695
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the eggs. Yeah, the eggs, I gotcha.

1696
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:17,719
Speaker 3: I'm all about that, Okay.

1697
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we run the gamut. Because I've got a family

1698
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 2: of people. I am probably the least the lowest on

1699
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 2: the rung of sweet tooth people in my family. My

1700
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 2: wife's the chocoholic, takes after her dad. How many my

1701
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 2: son's right behind her, and then how many after that

1702
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 2: than me?

1703
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 3: How many you know, holidays are there that are only

1704
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 3: about candy, like Halloween of course, yes, Valentine's Days on

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Speaker 3: that kind of track, there's more than you think.

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Speaker 2: Easter, yeah, and people have candy and Christmas, but it's

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Speaker 2: more like.

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Speaker 3: Candy right now, You got me.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy Easter, everybody. We'll see you after the holiday. Easter Monday,

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday at once, they