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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: You can find him on NFL Prime Video, the Thursday

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Speaker 2: Night Football Analyst, and Prime Video will present its second

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Speaker 2: NFL Wild Card game Saturday. It'll be the Bears and

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Speaker 2: the Packers that'll be at Soldier Field. They start their

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Speaker 2: coverage at seven thirty Eastern only on Prime. Looks like

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Speaker 2: he's got some product in his hair. Probably worked on

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Speaker 2: his beard beard as well. Which one do you spend

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Speaker 2: more time on your hair or your beard beard?

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Speaker 3: Quite a bit of time on the beard this morning.

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Speaker 3: Actually trimmed the edges of my mustache for you.

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Speaker 4: Let's tell you know, I like you nice.

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Speaker 2: I did wonder about this where we put labels on players,

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Speaker 2: and I wonder about you going to Harvard if that

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Speaker 2: was there any positive that you went to Harvard or

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Speaker 2: or what negatives when you were going into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I think the initial negative was a funny one, which

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Speaker 3: was do you actually like football or do you have

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Speaker 3: other interests?

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Speaker 4: Are you going to become a doctor or something?

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Speaker 3: And that was that was something I had to kind

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Speaker 3: of overcome and could overcome that one pretty early, just

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Speaker 3: in terms of passion and how much I enjoyed playing

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Speaker 3: the game. And then I think, you know, I accepted

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Speaker 3: that label because it was always, oh, he's smart. He

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Speaker 3: could pick up a playbook, and we bring this guy in,

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Speaker 3: he'll pick up the playbook quickly. And when I got

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Speaker 3: to Tennessee, which was year nine for me, dal Loggins

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Speaker 3: was the offensiveporter, Mike Munchek was the head coach, wasn't

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Speaker 3: really into it or feeling it, and wasn't picking up

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Speaker 3: the playbook very quick. So dal Loggins challenged me and said, dude,

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Speaker 3: I thought you were smart. I can't believe you're having

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Speaker 3: a hard time with this. And that night I sat

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Speaker 3: down and learned the whole playbook and came back the

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Speaker 3: next day and was ready to go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But is there a correlation between going to an

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Speaker 2: IVY League school and being football smart?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's not, but I always try to

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Speaker 3: convince people that there was a correlation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Let's look at the Bears in the Packers, and

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Speaker 2: I'm wondering who has the most pressure on them going

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Speaker 2: into this game. If I go Matt Lafleur, Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 2: is you know, not facing the same pressure that I'm

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Speaker 2: sure Lafleur is, but how would you kind of level

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Speaker 2: out the pressure on either of these teams and coaches

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Lafloor's got a lot more pressure on him.

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's masterful job this year, what he's done with

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Speaker 3: this team, completely changing around in a year, what he's

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Speaker 3: done with Kayleb Williams. I think it's been great, and

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Speaker 3: really just the mentality of who they are, especially offensively,

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Speaker 3: they have an identity.

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Speaker 4: They're physical, They're going to.

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Speaker 3: Run it straight down your throat, They're going to do

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Speaker 3: the play action stuff. But Lafloor, I mean, they've lost

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Speaker 3: four in a row and this is a big moment

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Speaker 3: for him. You know, Jordan Love hasn't played for two

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Speaker 3: and a half weeks. They just everybody in Week eighteen,

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Speaker 3: so all their stars are going to be fresh. Josh

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Speaker 3: Jacobs hopefully will be as fresh as he's been since

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Speaker 3: that New York game where he got injured. But Lafleur's

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Speaker 3: got the most pressure on him coming in and trying.

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Speaker 4: To win this game. And I think Jordan Love as well.

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Speaker 3: You think about last year and that game versus the

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Speaker 3: Eagles in the playoffs. He's got a lot to prove

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Speaker 3: and he's had a great season, so I'm hoping he

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Speaker 4: A good game.

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Speaker 2: Is it crazy to say, is Matt Lafleur on a

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Speaker 2: hot seat there in Green Bay?

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Speaker 4: I think that's crazy to say.

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Speaker 3: I think if you look at the organization and know

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Speaker 3: them making rash decisions, I don't think that's who they are.

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Speaker 3: So I think it ratchets up even more for next

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Speaker 3: year if they don't win this game and they have

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Speaker 3: a poor showing on offense.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think he's on the hot seat.

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Speaker 2: No. I talked to Dan Olovsky yesterday. He said he

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Speaker 2: felt like Sean McDermott might be coaching for his job

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Speaker 4: That would also be shocking to me if that was

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Speaker 4: the case. I think if anything.

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Speaker 3: There, you know, maybe they well they might lose Joe Brady,

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Speaker 3: But that game is going to be really interesting because

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Speaker 3: the Bills, at least as of yesterday, were still favored

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville win an eight in a row just kind of

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Speaker 3: putting on their tape the last few days and watching them.

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Speaker 4: It's been Liam Cohen and Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 3: It's been great to watch Trevor Lawrence is really these

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Speaker 5: But what's different Ryan, So I think, first of all it.

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Speaker 4: Is just the confidence. But they had.

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Speaker 3: You know, they played Seattle and the Rams and only

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Speaker 3: score twelve points and seven points right before their bye week,

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Speaker 3: they went into the buy. I don't know what they did,

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Speaker 4: I think the addition of Jacobe Myers helped.

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Speaker 3: But Parker Washington has been awesome on that offense. They've

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Speaker 3: got a ton of talent. But Trevor is playing with

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Speaker 3: a ton of confidence back there, and even last week

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Speaker 3: and a week before watching the games, watching him get pressured,

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Speaker 3: his ability to see it, to get the ball out

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Speaker 3: and throw it accurately. He's done a great job through

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Speaker 3: confidence is such a huge thing for quarterbacks, especially quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: that have been up and down, and Trevor's playing at

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Speaker 3: a really high level right now.

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Speaker 2: So you can learn that that's a learned skill that

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Speaker 2: you can see it, throw it, you can see it

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Speaker 3: I think part of it for him is being more

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Speaker 3: coach that demands more of you, and that's a huge

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Speaker 3: thing with Trevor this year is Liam Cohen and the

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Speaker 3: demands that he has put on him. But yes, you

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Speaker 3: can certainly that's something you can learn throughout a season

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Speaker 3: Cohen we got to give him some flowers because you

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Speaker 3: look at Baker last year compared.

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Speaker 4: To this year and his numbers.

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Speaker 3: There's no crazy coincidence there that Liam Cohen was his

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Speaker 2: We heard that maybe John Harball lost the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport reported that Adam Schefter came back and said

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Speaker 2: that that wasn't the case in Baltimore. But how does

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Speaker 2: a coach lose the locker room?

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Speaker 3: I love the Schefter versus Round, Yeah, the reports, the

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Speaker 3: inside the reports. How does a coach lose the locker room?

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Speaker 3: I think part of it and I don't know anything

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Speaker 3: in general. Part of it is, and I've seen over

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Speaker 3: same commitment to excellence out of your great players that

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Speaker 3: you do out of the young rookies. It's easy for

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Speaker 3: But when you don't do that with the best players

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Speaker 3: on your team and the stars, and you kind of

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Speaker 3: let them get away with things, I think that's the

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Speaker 3: first way where you can start to lose the locker

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Speaker 3: room and guys can start questioning your consistency as a leader.

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Speaker 2: The elevation progression of Drake may it's kind of remarkable

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Speaker 2: when you consider he's probably going to finish second in MVP. Now,

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Speaker 2: we have seen those quarterbacks who make that jump in

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Speaker 2: the second year, But how do you assess how he's

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Speaker 5: When they do have a running game, it doesn't feel.

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Speaker 2: Like they have a lot of stars at the wide

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Speaker 3: I think when quarterback we talk about all the time infrastructure.

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Speaker 3: So Mike Rabele gets there and what does he do?

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Speaker 3: He gets him a number one receiver and Stefon Diggs.

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Speaker 3: He goes and gets a great play caller some would

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Speaker 3: argue the best play call in the last twenty years

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Speaker 3: so bolsters the offensive line. You know, he gets Will Campbell,

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Speaker 4: So it's like all these things.

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Speaker 3: The protection got better, the star player he could throw

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Speaker 3: the offense around him.

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Speaker 4: And the thing I love about that system.

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Speaker 3: I was in that system with Bill O'Brien in my

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Speaker 3: tenth year in the NFL, and if you draw a

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Speaker 3: line in my career, what it was before year ten

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Speaker 3: and after year ten and after I learned more in

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Speaker 3: that tenth year than I've ever learned in my career

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Speaker 3: put on a quarterback. So it's really nice to see

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Speaker 3: the ascension of Drake May this year.

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Speaker 4: And the scary part is they're going to demand so

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what are you getting in year ten that

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Speaker 3: For me, it was just the way that I looked

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Speaker 3: a lot of these offenses now are going away from

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Speaker 3: demanding everything out of the quarterback the mic points, knowing

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Speaker 3: every little intricacy about the run game, why we're doing

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Speaker 3: things on specific plays, what defenses are doing, and why

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Speaker 3: what are they trying to attack you with?

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Speaker 4: How are they trying to combat you.

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Speaker 3: It was just a completely different way for me to

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Speaker 3: look at football and you know, and knowing that every

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Speaker 3: single thing that.

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Speaker 4: We did had a purpose.

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Speaker 3: It was really cool for me to be able to

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Speaker 3: take that then and use it for the rest of

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Speaker 3: my career.

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Speaker 2: Now give you a better understanding of Tom Brady's greatness of.

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Speaker 3: How that absolutely I mean full complete control the whole time,

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Speaker 3: but just the demands that it put on him early

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Speaker 3: to sit back and witness. He was in complete command

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Speaker 3: the whole time and really amazing when you get to

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Speaker 3: kind of see the way that it's made behind closed doors.

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Speaker 5: Did you feel like he was better than you? Who's

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Speaker 5: that Brady? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean no, I'm not talking about the end result.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about when he got on the field. You

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Speaker 2: got on the field. Did you get did you have

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Speaker 2: to come to that conclusion He's just better than me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, But it was every game was, you know, on

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Speaker 3: a consistent, long term basis, he was always going to

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Speaker 3: be better than me. I just had to be better

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Speaker 3: than him, you know, in that moment for that specific day.

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Speaker 3: And I think we played fourteen times and I was

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Speaker 3: better than him three.

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Speaker 5: Of fourteen times.

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Speaker 4: Percentages not great, but there was three of them, Okay.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't go to Harvard, so I'm not good

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Speaker 2: at the numbers, PAULI, that's probably not good percentage, you're

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Speaker 2: asking me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's right.

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Speaker 5: Uh have fun?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think it ever went that way because

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Speaker 4: So it was not very happy about that one. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Well, well you're gonna be a you know, trivial pursuit question.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I got a lot of them, though, Dan, I

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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm at a roundable pause. Six and

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Speaker 2: And just got word that the Dolphins have fired Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 2: And let's go back to when John Harball was fired.

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Speaker 2: Because if now I don't know if John Harball is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Ston, my guess is I see it going like this?

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Speaker 5: We waited. Now we're going to stick to you right now.

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Speaker 5: We like, we believe you, we believe in it. Let's

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Speaker 5: have a meeting. So what are you thinking for next season?

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Speaker 5: While we start with two? Over're keeping him? Okay, and

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Speaker 5: you're fired?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Mike, and uh, good luck to you in

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Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel took over the Dolphins in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 6: nine and eight, got to the wildcard, got to the

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Speaker 6: But they're the number one offensive football last year, the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it just feels like that he survived.

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Speaker 2: We thought, Okay, if you make it to Wednesday, chances

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Speaker 5: Man. Yes, Hud.

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Speaker 8: At least they got it in this week because there's

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Speaker 2: Well, there might be who knows, whatever happens this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Is the Raiders job a good job? No, Atlanta a

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Speaker 2: I keep going, golly, they got to be better. Is

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Speaker 2: He's competitive, he wants to be great. I got cap room.

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Speaker 2: If you give me three years, maybe I can bring

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Speaker 2: Is Cleveland a good job, I would say, No, you

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Speaker 2: That to me is a good job. I think they

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Speaker 8: Parody in recent years, you can't necessarily take or not

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Speaker 2: The one thing that I thought of when we got

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Speaker 2: this news is what role did Troy Aikman play in this?

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Speaker 2: He's a consultant to help them find their next general manager.

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Speaker 2: I believe, well, now he can help them find their

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Speaker 5: While having another job.

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Speaker 6: By the way, that seems to be the new path

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Speaker 5: They're not gonna They're not gonna allow that.

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Speaker 5: You mean at the NFL or CBS. CBS isn't going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, No, Matt Ryan, if you want to be

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Speaker 2: You know, commit to the job. If I'm CBS, losing

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Speaker 2: Matt Ryan is not like losing Bill Kauer. Now he

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 9: Going back to the Dolphins real fast, Are they in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought they found their quarterback. They made the

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Speaker 2: I love their running back Wattle. Is he a number one?

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know what you have there.

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Speaker 5: That's part of the problem.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: At least if you see building blocks and you go, okay,

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 10: generally that was not I was not in focus for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I could see the vanity there. Uh,

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Speaker 2: who does it, PAULI?

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Speaker 5: Sean McVay does it?

447
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Speaker 2: Oh, Sean McVay. Yeah, but he's a coach, so coaches,

448
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Speaker 2: I mean Mad Lafloor. Let's be honest. I mean, those

449
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Speaker 2: dudes are the eye probably getting their eyebrows waxed.

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Speaker 10: You listen from a guy that used to do it.

451
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Speaker 10: I mean I made I made some mistakes down in Gainesville, Florida,

452
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Speaker 10: by putting hair product in before a game. Like the

453
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Speaker 10: worst thing ever to be dropping back on third and

454
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Speaker 10: fifteen against an elite SEC pass rush and you have

455
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Speaker 10: palmade in your eye as you're trying to figure out

456
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Speaker 10: is the state, what's the safety doing?

457
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Speaker 5: What happens?

458
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Speaker 10: Where am I looking? Spurriers yelling at you over on

459
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Speaker 10: the sideline? Like I ran into that problem a few times,

460
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Speaker 10: So I learned my lesson. I think by the time

461
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Speaker 10: I got to New York there was no more hair

462
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Speaker 10: product before games.

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Speaker 2: If I would have told you before the season started, Alabama,

464
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Speaker 2: all right, Georgia was not going to be in Ohio.

465
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Speaker 2: State's not going to be advancing in Alabama as well,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Georgia, and Alabama wouldn't be in the final four.

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Speaker 5: You would have said, what.

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Speaker 10: It's what's happening now in college football? I think this

469
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Speaker 10: is the first time in the college football playoff era

470
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Speaker 10: that those teams you just mentioned, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State,

471
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Speaker 10: and Clemson, not one of them are in the playoff.

472
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Speaker 10: And I got to say, you know, I just from

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Speaker 10: a fan standpoint, I kind of like the new blood thing.

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Speaker 10: I know, nil and the portal that's changed everything, and

475
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Speaker 10: this is the new normal moving forward. But I think

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Speaker 10: Indiana is a great example, and obviously Ole Miss Miami.

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Speaker 10: These are all great examples of programs that can completely

478
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Speaker 10: flip very very quickly. Rosters change on a dime, and

479
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Speaker 10: teams get competitive really really fast. And I think you're

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Speaker 10: seeing a great example of at in this year's playoff.

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Speaker 5: But do you think this is the norm or this

482
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Speaker 5: an aberration?

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Speaker 10: I think it's the norm moving forward. I still think

484
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Speaker 10: the SEC is the best conference in college football top

485
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Speaker 10: to bottom. I think it's still the best top to bottom,

486
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Speaker 10: but not necessarily national championship every single year like we

487
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Speaker 10: were used to for all of those years. Teams no

488
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Speaker 10: longer can stockpile talent and five star recruits the way

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Speaker 10: they used to at Georgia and Alabama and LSU and

490
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Speaker 10: some of these programs. Today, if you're not on the

491
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Speaker 10: field early in your career, you're out, You're in the portal,

492
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Speaker 10: and you're getting paid more money to go play somewhere else.

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Speaker 10: And so there's just more there's more discrepancy, there's more parody.

494
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Speaker 10: From a roster standpoint, teams just simply aren't as deep anymore.

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Speaker 10: And I mean at the start of the year, if

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Speaker 10: you'd said to me, hey, Indiana is going to be

497
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Speaker 10: at out Indian is going to be at Alabama and

498
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Speaker 10: the Rose Bowl, I would have been like, okay, I

499
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Speaker 10: mean I could see that. If you'd said it would

500
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Speaker 10: be thirty five to three or whatever it was, I

501
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Speaker 10: would have said, WHOA, that seems a bit aggressive. But

502
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Speaker 10: there's there's just such a well coached team with so

503
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Speaker 10: much talent, and this has been this has definitely been

504
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Speaker 10: eye opening. I think for a lot of fans watching.

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Speaker 2: This all right, handicap ole miss in Miami because I'm

506
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Speaker 2: I misjudged Miami. I didn't think they could be as

507
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Speaker 2: physical as they were. That stood out. It was it

508
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Speaker 2: was glaring, and I just never thought that I would

509
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Speaker 2: see that.

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Speaker 10: I'm with you on that. I think Miami could win

511
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Speaker 10: the whole thing based on that physicality you're talking about.

512
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Speaker 10: I think in this era of college football, which with

513
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 10: so much tempo and air raid and everybody's going fast

514
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 10: and spreading the ball around, I still think games are

515
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Speaker 10: run and lost in the trenches. And the way Miami's

516
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Speaker 10: playing right now, especially in the playoff, that's where they're

517
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Speaker 10: dominating people. I mean, that D line right now is ruthless.

518
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Speaker 10: People can't block Ruben Bane, people can't block Messicor They've

519
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 10: got twelve sacks in two playoff games. And then offensively,

520
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Speaker 10: they're running the football with Mark Fletcher, a big, physical

521
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Speaker 10: back who's going to play in the NFL. They got

522
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Speaker 10: an outstanding offensive line. They're just staying on the field

523
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Speaker 10: and they're running it down people's throats. Oh miss is

524
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Speaker 10: supremely talented, no question. In Trinidad. Chambliss to me, especially

525
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Speaker 10: after that Georgia game. You know, he's he's remarkable. And

526
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Speaker 10: we called it their first playoff game against Tulane. They've

527
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Speaker 10: got so many playmakers and that they don't have a

528
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Speaker 10: ton of weaknesses, and they can run the ball too,

529
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Speaker 10: but that physicality is going to get put to the test,

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Speaker 10: and Olmiss better be able to run the ball with

531
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Speaker 10: Key one Lacey against Miami and avoid third and longs,

532
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Speaker 10: otherwise it could be a really long day for Trinidad. Chambliss.

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Speaker 2: What did Oregon learn from the first matchup with Indiana?

534
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Speaker 10: They got to be able to run the ball. I

535
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Speaker 10: think that's where they got in trouble that first time,

536
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Speaker 10: and that's ultimately really the identity of Oregon's offense. I

537
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 10: know that Dante mor gets a lot of credit credit

538
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Speaker 10: and a lot of the shine, and people are talking

539
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Speaker 10: about him potentially being the first pick in next year's

540
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Speaker 10: NFL draft if he decides to come out. But when

541
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Speaker 10: you watch Oregon play, it still comes down to their

542
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Speaker 10: ability to be physical and run the football. Danie Lanning

543
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Speaker 10: has built that offensive line. They look like an NFL

544
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Speaker 10: low line. They're really really big. That was a big

545
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 10: question mark coming into the year. They had replaced four starters.

546
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Speaker 10: They went to the portal and they brought in some

547
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Speaker 10: big NFL bodies and they've got a deep stable of

548
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 10: bats that are also very very big. You'll see four

549
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 10: or five different guys playing this game against the Indiana.

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Speaker 10: The problem in the first game is they weren't able

551
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Speaker 10: to run it successfully and it got them in trouble.

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Speaker 10: Indiana is excellent stopping. They run on defense and on

553
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Speaker 10: third down. They've got a very exotic pressure package get

554
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Speaker 10: that gives people fits and they were living in Oregon's

555
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Speaker 10: backfield in those situations. If Oregon can't run the ball

556
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Speaker 10: more effectively, I don't think Oregon can beat Indiana.

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558
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Speaker 2: course the Bachelor and Bachelorette host, and he pairs with

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Speaker 5: There was it. Working with Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 10: It was amazing. We shared a lot of laughs in

564
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 10: the in the chair getting our haircuts, and we were

565
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,239
Speaker 10: talking about demanding Passing Academy. Back in the day he

566
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Speaker 10: was when he was at Michigan State playing. He was

567
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Speaker 10: there and I was there as a counselor at the camp.

568
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Speaker 10: I used to work the camp for a couple of years,

569
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Speaker 10: and so kind of getting to know him there. We're

570
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Speaker 10: catching up since then, and then we had this really

571
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Speaker 10: interesting deep conversation about the future of pass rush in football.

572
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Speaker 10: Kirk wanted to talk about where he sees the future

573
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Speaker 10: in that going and the different decoordinators that that he

574
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Speaker 10: finds really hard to game plan for. We had a

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Speaker 10: very good x's and O session during our our great

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Speaker 10: clip shoot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, so what's he saying? What is

578
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Speaker 2: the future of the pass rush?

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Speaker 10: It's the exotic radar. Look, it's the one where everybody

580
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Speaker 10: lines up and you don't.

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait, you just gave us a new term, the

582
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Speaker 2: exotic radar.

583
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Speaker 5: Look, well, the rate.

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Speaker 10: I mean a lot of people know what RD is like.

585
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 10: The radar is like the Ravens used to do radar.

586
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Speaker 10: When Ray Lewis was there and those guys, and it

587
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 10: was like Rex Ryan and Marvin Lewis, you had no

588
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Speaker 10: idea who was who was blitzaying, who was in a

589
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Speaker 10: three point stance. Guys were dropping out, guys were rushing,

590
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Speaker 10: and you almost had to guess on offense. You just

591
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 10: weren't weren't sure what happened. Oddly enough, my rookie season

592
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Speaker 10: probably the worst game I've ever played in my life.

593
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Speaker 10: It was the fourth game of the preseason against that

594
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Speaker 10: exact defense from the Ravens, and I had no idea

595
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Speaker 10: where the pressure was coming from. I got sacked, fumbled,

596
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 10: everything was going wrong. That defense that a lot of

597
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Speaker 10: people are doing. Now we think that's going to be

598
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Speaker 10: We both think that's going to be the future. Not

599
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 10: just in the NFL, but you're gonna start seeing I

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Speaker 10: think more and more college programs.

601
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Speaker 5: To Okay, but what's that feeling like?

602
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Speaker 2: Okay, you go to the line of scrimmage and you

603
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: have you're supposed to show confidence and composure and poise,

604
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Speaker 2: and you have no idea what's going on.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 10: I remember literally going to the line of scrimmage every

607
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Speaker 10: single time I dropped back to pass, I had no

608
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 10: idea if I was protected or not, not saying I

609
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 10: wasn't sure if the guys upfront could block their man.

610
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Speaker 10: I knew they could do that. What I didn't know, though, was, Hey,

611
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Speaker 10: if the Sam linebacker blitzes, do I have to hit

612
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Speaker 10: this fullback in the flat or can I hold on

613
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Speaker 10: to it because he's going to get picked up And

614
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Speaker 10: I can try to find a receiver on a fifteen

615
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Speaker 10: yard in Rounte and you know, Usually when you know

616
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Speaker 10: the game plan and you understand defense very well, you

617
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Speaker 10: might have one or two snaps like that, a game

618
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Speaker 10: where you're just not sure what's about to happen. I

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Speaker 10: literally dropped back twenty times, lululess of what was happening.

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Speaker 10: And Yeah, I need just to say that was That

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Speaker 10: was a game I'll never forget. That was. That was unique.

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Speaker 5: And it was a preseason game.

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Speaker 2: It's not even a regular season game, but they're coming

624
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Speaker 2: after you.

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Speaker 10: We just got done playing Tom Coughlin and Jacksonville the

626
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Speaker 10: week before, and they just played vanilla defense the entire game.

627
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Speaker 10: They played Cover three, Amanda Man and Cover two and

628
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Speaker 10: I literally I had this big day and I remember

629
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 10: throwing it all over the place. I called my dad

630
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Speaker 10: after that game and I said, Dad, I don't think

631
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 10: the NFL is that hard there. We don't like I

632
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 10: think the SEC was harder than playing defenses. It's so easy.

633
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 10: They just line up. Very next week, a preseason game,

634
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Speaker 10: it was Exotic Radar blitz Fest, and I had zero clue.

635
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 10: I called my dad after that game and I took

636
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Speaker 10: everything back everything.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this on the show yesterday. Indiana is a

638
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: great story and Fernando Mendoza is byproxy a great story

639
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Speaker 2: as well. I just don't know if we're going to

640
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Speaker 2: get caught up. I don't know how good he is.

641
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Speaker 2: I know he's going to be the number one pick,

642
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: but like Dante More, somebody's going to be the second

643
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Speaker 2: quarterback drafted. And I'm not sure if these are great prospects,

644
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: good potential to be very good. So can you handicap

645
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Speaker 2: these these two quarterbacks?

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Speaker 10: Well, it's not a sure thing. I would agree with that.

647
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 10: I'm trying to think back in the nineteen years I've

648
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 10: been covering college football. I can probably count on one

649
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 10: hand how many guys I knew coming out I thought

650
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 10: were going to be good. Like I remember I knew

651
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 10: Andrew luck was going to be good. I knew that,

652
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Speaker 10: I knew Trevor Lawrence was going to be good. I

653
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 10: felt good about that. Cam, yep, Cam, I just you

654
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 10: knew he was just just just from a physical standpoint,

655
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Speaker 10: a statue standpoint, he was going to be a problem.

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Speaker 10: I think with Fernando, like, I'm a big fan of

657
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 10: his and it's more I think more because of the

658
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Speaker 10: cerebral and just how he processes things. I know he's

659
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 10: not an elite athlete. His mobility has gotten better throughout

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Speaker 10: his career. He makes really, really good decisions, and he

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Speaker 10: stepped up. He's had he's had some Heisman moments. He's

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Speaker 10: had some moments against good defenses this year where he's

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Speaker 10: really he's really made big plays in big moments. You know,

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Speaker 10: Dante Moore, this is really the only year you've ever

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Speaker 10: seen Dante Moore play. He had five starts at UCLA

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Speaker 10: as a true freshman two years ago. He sat last

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Speaker 10: year behind Dylan Gabriel watching and watching him at Oregon,

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Speaker 10: and then this year you've gotten to watch him. He's

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Speaker 10: a very natural passer. There's a lot you like there.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, it's going to be interesting. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 10: the Raiders are sitting right now at number one, and

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Speaker 10: you've got brock Bauers on offense, Ashton Gent, you know,

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Speaker 10: whichever those two guys. If that's where they end up,

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Speaker 10: you know, it's a porous offensive line. There's a lot

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Speaker 10: of work there to be done. It'll be interesting. We'll

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Speaker 10: overanalyze this to death over the next several months before

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Speaker 10: the draft, but I think they're both really good prospects.

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Speaker 10: I think ty Simpson's also a really good prospect, but

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Speaker 10: I don't think there is a sure fire first overall

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Speaker 10: pick necessarily in terms of one of those guys who's

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Speaker 10: astronomically better than the other.

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Speaker 2: Great to catch up with you, Good luck man, good

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Speaker 2: luck with the two year old there and the campaign.

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Speaker 10: You appreciate it, brother, We'll see it.

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Speaker 5: Jesse Palmer