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Speaker 2: Ever been left waiting by the phone.

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Speaker 1: It's the Fread Show. Hey, Kyle, good morning, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program. How are you. I'm doing all right? Okay,

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Speaker 1: just all right, all right. I can't understand. You're just stressed.

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Speaker 2: You are just stressed, Kyle, because you want to get

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Speaker 2: in touch with this woman named Abby who you met

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Speaker 2: on Hinge. Tell me all about Abby and how you guys,

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Speaker 2: mad about any dates you've been on? Kind of everything?

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Speaker 2: Tell us sten on where we are right now? Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we met Abby on Hinge. We went on a couple

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Speaker 2: of dates.

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Speaker 3: The first one was drinks and went really well, we

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Speaker 3: had fun and then kind of when we were saying goodbye,

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Speaker 3: she kissed me okay, which is, which was yeah, which

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Speaker 3: is like, I don't know, that seems like a sign.

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Speaker 1: That seems like a good sign because it was like.

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Speaker 3: Chemistry and it was like having really hit it off

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Speaker 3: with someone like that in a while. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I would say, if you go on first dak to

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Speaker 2: somebody as a man and then the woman kisses you said,

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Speaker 2: I would say, that's good. So then that led to

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Speaker 2: the second date, and then how did that go?

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Speaker 1: It was good?

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Speaker 2: It was good.

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Speaker 1: It was dinner and you know.

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Speaker 3: It's at a little farther and hung out back at

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Speaker 3: my place and we did some more making out and

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Speaker 3: you know, it's it.

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Speaker 1: It was fun. It was a good night.

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Speaker 3: And I just thought i'd be able to hear back

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Speaker 3: from her after that, but it was like nothing but

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Speaker 3: like text, and there was no response since then, and

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Speaker 3: it just feels like I'm kind of like.

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Speaker 1: Waiting by the phone, like give this girl a shop.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that you use the name of the song.

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Speaker 2: That's so good. When you do that, I'll use the

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Speaker 2: name of the segment and here, yeah, this is exactly

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Speaker 2: what we're going for. I just I love the incorporation.

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Speaker 2: So you go from this great first date with all

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Speaker 2: this chemistry, and she's kind of a you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of leading the way with the physicality to a second

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Speaker 2: date a little bit more of that. And then you've

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Speaker 2: texted her since the second date and she hasn't responded

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Speaker 2: to you at all. So she's it's just radio silence

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Speaker 2: since the second date. So how do we go from

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Speaker 2: she kisses you for the first time to now she

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Speaker 1: How does this happen?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I really don't know unless she like maybe

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Speaker 3: had like a few guys going at the same time

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Speaker 3: and I just didn't went out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: Well that was more of a rhetorical question, because we're

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Speaker 2: going to find out. We're going to help you find out.

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Speaker 2: In just the second, going to play a song.

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Speaker 1: Come back.

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Speaker 2: We'll call Abby, you'll be on the phone. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to ask her these questions. See if we can, you know,

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Speaker 2: figure out why she hasn't called you since the date.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she's been busy, maybe it's what you say. It

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Speaker 2: could be a lot of things. But the whole is

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Speaker 2: that we can straighten this out and set you up

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Speaker 2: on another day that we pay for.

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Speaker 1: Sound good? That sounds great? Hey, Kyle Yea let's call Abby.

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Speaker 2: You guys, you met on the dating app pins, which

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Speaker 2: is I feel like a lot of people, it's Share.

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Speaker 2: Everyone seems to meet on waiting by the phone these days,

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Speaker 2: and it's maybe the most popular of all the dating apps.

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Speaker 2: But you went on two dates. You felt that the

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Speaker 2: chemistry was there. She kissed you on the first date actually,

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Speaker 2: and then the second day was good, except you have

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Speaker 2: not heard one thing from her since then. You've reached

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Speaker 2: out via tex she hasn't responded to anything, and you

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Speaker 2: want to know, how do you go from two good

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Speaker 2: days to being ghosted? It?

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Speaker 1: Really, I really don't see how it happened. Okay, Orry,

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Speaker 1: we're about to find out right now. We're gonna call her.

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Speaker 1: Good luck.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hello, hi'sus Abby. Yes it is hi Abby, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: My name is Fred. I'm calling from the Fred's Show,

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Speaker 2: the Morning radio show, and I have to tell you

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Speaker 2: that we are on the radio right now, and I

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Speaker 2: would need your permission to continue with the call. Can

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Speaker 2: we chat for just a little bit on the radio.

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Speaker 2: You can hang up anytime.

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Speaker 1: I Well, what do you want to chat about?

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Speaker 2: Well, we're calling on behalf. Well, well, we're calling on

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Speaker 2: behalf of a a dude named Kyle who reached out

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Speaker 2: to us. He said, he met you on Hinge and

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Speaker 2: you went on two dates. Do you remember this guy?

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Speaker 2: I hope, yeah I do.

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Speaker 1: But I can't talk about that on the radio. You well,

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Speaker 1: you let us decide.

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Speaker 2: I will be the judge, okay, if you can talk

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Speaker 2: about it on the radio, because we'd like it. Sounds

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Speaker 2: like there's a story here because we just talked to

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Speaker 2: him a minute ago and he said that, you know,

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Speaker 2: you guys had matched and went on a date and

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Speaker 2: he felt the first date went really well. There was

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Speaker 2: a second date. He even thought that went well. But

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Speaker 2: he says he's texted you since then and you haven't responded,

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Speaker 2: So something has happened here. It sounds like you've got

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Speaker 2: a story to tell, and we'd love to hear it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I was really into him. I mean

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Speaker 4: he's he's really hot.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, he's tall, and he was a you.

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Speaker 4: Know, a gentleman and funny, but he you know, green

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but what happened? I mean because what until

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Speaker 2: there wasn't is what you said, So what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: It was all good until win.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, so I will say that I was

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Speaker 4: the one who made the first move, Like I kissed

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Speaker 4: him on the first date, and it was he was

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Speaker 4: he is a wonder.

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Speaker 1: He's a really good kisser.

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Speaker 4: He's a really really good Kisser's amazing at this and

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Speaker 4: he's which is usually a good sign. And the second

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Speaker 4: and I think it kind of felt for both of

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Speaker 1: And started making out. And he's good.

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Speaker 4: He was really good with his hands and that he

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Speaker 1: Which is he knows what to do with his hands, right.

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Speaker 2: Hands. Like this isn't even my persuasion, but I'm impressed

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Speaker 2: by this guy. So where did it go wrong? Then?

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Speaker 1: I mean, so far this guy gets an A plus.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I thought that too at the time.

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Speaker 4: And then it kind of all stopped after he don't

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Speaker 1: After he un buttoned my bra.

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Speaker 4: And he started staring at my at my at my

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Speaker 1: Just staring at them. Yeah, it was super bizarre.

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Speaker 4: He kind of he kind of like backed up, and

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Speaker 4: it's like weird stance, you know when like when you're

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Speaker 1: And like that's what it looks like.

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Speaker 4: It was like like like this is so strange.

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Speaker 2: So he was about to sprint towards them then, okay,

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Speaker 2: but that's what.

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Speaker 3: It looked like.

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Speaker 4: He took both of his hands and started like tapping

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Speaker 2: I guess like it's a toy or something like.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you don't know. It was so weird.

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Speaker 1: He was just like smacking them. He's like fucking.

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Speaker 3: So weird.

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Speaker 2: And so you're just standing there and he's doing this,

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Speaker 2: all four is tapping the bottom of it, okay, which

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Speaker 2: is understandable. Might I might wonder where this is leading?

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Speaker 2: Like you know, this is a this is a new

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what then? What like you're just weird that

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Speaker 4: Know why until like laugh or cry because he was

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Speaker 4: just like and that's how he was trying to like okay,

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Speaker 4: go back to just kissing. But I honestly I just

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Speaker 2: It and only imagine what tricks he has his sleeve.

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Speaker 2: Let me, let me bring Kyle And I forgot to

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Speaker 2: mention that Kyle is here. That's an unorthodox that's not

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Speaker 2: in the playbook. Kyle.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand what you what were you trying to do?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, so up till then, there was

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Speaker 3: zero complaints, right, I mean I've never had any complaints

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Speaker 2: What were you trying to do? I'm trying to understand,

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Speaker 2: like what potato that to other people? Maybe that's why

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Speaker 2: he's single. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it, Like what did you think she

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Speaker 2: would judge that? Were you like, would they was it

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Speaker 1: I don't judge. I just don't understand, Like what's hit

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Speaker 1: it for anybody? Joe?

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Speaker 3: I mean extending the moment, I guess you know.

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Speaker 1: What you're at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get it. I don't I don't understand

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Speaker 2: where there's any sort of wins there. I'm very perplexed.

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Speaker 3: Some guys come in full speed, you know, I just

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Speaker 3: I take my time with it sometimes, you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Would feel like a science experiment, like you're not justifying this.

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Speaker 1: Let me come over thinking, you know, a little bouncy,

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Speaker 1: a little bouncy bound. Why is he backing up and

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Speaker 1: staring at them? I don't know. Yeah, King Shame and

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Speaker 1: his man. Everything else was great.

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Speaker 3: Well I'm not I'm very I'm very tall, so it

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Speaker 3: was difficult to see Otherwise. The visual I have of

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Speaker 3: this is just not healthy, Like it's not like there's

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Speaker 3: just a lot of this.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it, and I don't judge. I just

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Speaker 2: I don't understan and what you were doing. I've never

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Speaker 2: seen this out. I've never never heard of this. Just

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Speaker 2: didn't teach me this in college, you know, like, no

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Speaker 2: one we don't want that. Yeah, I don't know, so Abby,

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Speaker 2: you're you can't figure it out either, And at this

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Speaker 2: point you were so weirded out by it that it's

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Speaker 2: like I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know anyone who would

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Speaker 4: Ever, Like no one, no one actually likes I don't

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Speaker 2: They say yeah, they're not toys, bro Like, they're not.

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Speaker 2: I can only imagine what other sort of things you

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, man, Like I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So look, I honestly don't even know how to pivot here.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, it's a weird thing you did. We've

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Speaker 2: heard weirder, to be honest, but I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's enjoyable. I don't think you know it's right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're it's like a cat with one

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Speaker 2: of those little birds on the string, you know, I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's what this is. Abby, Would you give

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Speaker 2: the guy another chance? Okay, so he likes whatever that

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Speaker 2: was and you don't, so you just so now we

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Speaker 2: let him know, Like, I'm not into it. Apparently if

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Speaker 2: you go out with Kiki, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm just saying it.

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Speaker 2: Out of all the things we've heard people get ghosted,

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Speaker 2: this is not bad.

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Speaker 1: Like he just wanted to make use of that.

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Speaker 2: But you're shadow boxing someone's like that's weird. Like it's

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Speaker 2: a very strange thing. It doesn't even sound comfortable. But

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Speaker 2: would you, Abby, would you give the guy another chance?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you did admit that everything was fine. Up

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Speaker 2: until then, I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: I'm just kind of it was a little weirded out

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Speaker 4: by it.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, I know, you know, it's just not

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Speaker 1: for me, man. I've got a lot of other tricks

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Speaker 1: in the bag. Yeah, that's what I'm worried about.

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Speaker 2: That was just the first one. Yeah, we had getting started. Well,

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Speaker 2: I think we're ending to all right, Look, so Abby's

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Speaker 2: not interested. I don't know, Kyle, do you have any

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Speaker 2: female friends you can talk to about this, because maybe

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Speaker 2: they can explain to you why that maybe appealing. I'd

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Speaker 2: love to know's perspective.

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Speaker 1: She's engaged away.

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Speaker 2: You're welcome to hit her up in the DM. Maybe

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Speaker 2: she can tell you more. But all right, look, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Gonna work out. Freak flag fla. Yeah, no judgment.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm trying to figure out why that's pleasurable

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Speaker 2: for anybody. But okay, Kyle Abbey, I wish you guys

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Speaker 2: both the best of luck.

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Speaker 1: Good luck out there.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, the