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Speaker 1: so we hope all of you do that. Now. It's

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Speaker 1: the one year anniversary of the invasion of Ukraine by

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Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin in Russia, and we played earlier. Secretary Austin

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Speaker 1: said this most likely will end with some sort of negotiation.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said on CNN earlier this morning. And

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Speaker 1: what Bucket I have been asking is how does this

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Speaker 1: end and how much money is the United States now

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Speaker 1: committed to? Interestingly, Zelenski was just asked that question earlier today.

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Speaker 1: What about people out there in the United States who

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Speaker 1: do not think it makes sense to spend one hundred

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Speaker 1: Zelensky had an answer. Listen to this. We keep hearing

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Speaker 1: those messages from time to time and their attendure. The

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Speaker 1: to various opinions and weaken and depleting of assistants, loses,

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Speaker 1: Russia is going to enter Baltic States NATO member states,

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Speaker 1: and then the US will have to send their sons

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Speaker 1: their sons and daughters to war, and they will have

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Speaker 1: to fight because it's a nature that we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: and they will be dying. I mean, that's pretty a

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Speaker 1: great and again that's a translation of Zolinsky. Buck it's dangerous,

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Speaker 1: and if they lose in Ukraine, Russia will in her

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Speaker 1: NATO and American sons and daughters will have to fight

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Speaker 1: and they will have to die. I don't buy it,

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Speaker 1: But that is a that's a big strong argument that

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Speaker 1: Zolinsky is trotting out there. In what military universe would

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Speaker 1: actually don't have endless war fighting material to give, and

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Speaker 1: which is not a NATO country. So why would Putin's

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Speaker 1: next calculation be, well, let's just really poke the bear

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Speaker 1: of all, just basic logistics, how many hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: but that's taxpayer money. Yeah, this is you know your time,

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Speaker 1: And you got thirty one trillion dollars in debt right now,

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Speaker 1: about China, right, So three of Vietnam, what they're China do?

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Speaker 1: They just sent people constant full of people, and right,

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Speaker 1: there's no weapon that can't stop masses and masses and

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Speaker 1: masses of people if you just keep sending waves and waves,

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Speaker 1: which China did. So you're right. So if Russia and

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Speaker 1: China are together, when Russia runs low a lot better

436
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Speaker 1: place than I have an untapped source of manpower to

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Speaker 1: just keep falling. Thank you for the call. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the question Buck we've been talking about is what happens

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Speaker 1: if China invades Taiwan while we are also occupied giving

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Speaker 1: one hundred billion a year in resources to Ukraine. How

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Speaker 1: do we have the ability to be on both foots

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Speaker 1: in two fronted wars effectively. I don't think anybody's asking

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Speaker 1: that question, but to me, that's a reason why China

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Speaker 1: would come in on the side of Russia, because the

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Speaker 1: longer they can prolong American involvement in Ukraine, the less

446
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Speaker 1: we're able to focus on what's going on in Taiwan.

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Speaker 1: I think when you hear Mitch McConnell and some other

448
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Speaker 1: Republican leaders and the Biden administration and Joe Biden himself

449
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Speaker 1: saying that our policy is whatever it takes. Understand that

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Speaker 1: to defeat Russia and Ukraine in this proxy fight and

451
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Speaker 1: have the Ukraine, that is going to have to be

452
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Speaker 1: the approach. Because it's not ending this year, it's probably

453
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Speaker 1: not ending next year. No one really knows. But this

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Speaker 1: is going to get a lot bloody or a lot

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Speaker 1: more expensive. And I don't think anybody believes that we

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Speaker 1: are near a breakthrough where the Russians are going to

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Speaker 1: capitulate based upon the battlefield. And I also think it's fascinating,

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Speaker 1: you know, what about having Russian and US leaders sit

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Speaker 1: down in a safe third country to discuss what would

460
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Speaker 1: be an end to this? You know, I always thought

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Speaker 1: Democrats love diplomacy, right, they love to talk about how,

462
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Speaker 1: oh we need to talk and sit around and figure

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Speaker 1: something out. All of a sudden, it's no, we have

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Speaker 1: to bloody the Russians to the point where they're humiliated,

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Speaker 1: retreat and every remember it would have to be I

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Speaker 1: would assume that even the territory seized by the Russians

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Speaker 1: in Ukraine in twenty or eight years ago, so whatsenty thirteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, and I assume we'd have to that CRIMEA.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the Ukrainians and you've taken all

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Speaker 1: of eastern Ukraine back, you're gonna take Crimea too, right,

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Speaker 1: So how long are we in for on this one year?

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Speaker 1: You know? I think years is the answer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't see any way that the other than other

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Speaker 1: than somehow Vladimir Putin being overthrown. I don't see any

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Speaker 1: way that this does not take years, because as long

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Speaker 1: as he's in control, I think he's going to continue

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Speaker 1: the war. So I just think, ever anyone who thinks

478
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Speaker 1: that this is the right poloty, look, I understand it's

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Speaker 1: very complicated. It's this is no there are no easy

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Speaker 1: answers here. That is so often the case on matters

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Speaker 1: of war and peace. I'm not pretending like this is

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Speaker 1: something that is cut and dry and everybody should be

483
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Speaker 1: able to see exactly what is right here. But for

484
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Speaker 1: those who are who are deeply supportive of the current

485
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Speaker 1: consensus foreign policy of the establishment, it would be you're

486
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Speaker 1: looking at a trillion dollars probably, So just understand if

487
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Speaker 1: you're good with that, if you like the idea of

488
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Speaker 1: we're going to spend a trillion dollars to make sure

489
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Speaker 1: that all of Ukraine is in Ukrainian hands, that's what

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Speaker 1: you can sign up for. But if you think, get, oh,

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Speaker 1: we spend one hundred billion and you know it's gonna

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524
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Speaker 1: soon and it will be in its final season, which

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529
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Speaker 1: But anyway, fourth and final season Carry made me finally

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Speaker 1: catch up to Yellowstone season five, So we are going

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Speaker 1: to start watching Yellowstone season five soon. We have also

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Speaker 1: been watching nineteen twenty three, which with Harrison for I

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Speaker 1: have here and yet pretty good, pretty good, um, violent,

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Speaker 1: but but pretty good. And you Clay were at a

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Speaker 1: superhero movie. Aunt is this now I've never seen aunt

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Speaker 1: Man is Paul Rudd ant Man, right, right, that's right,

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Speaker 1: so he got to be a super Wow, the guy

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Speaker 1: from Clueless, the step brother from Clueless is now a superhero.

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Speaker 1: Isn't an amazing how the world changes? Did you like

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Speaker 1: the ant Man movie? You tell me it was a

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Speaker 1: little bit hard to follow. Yeah, So Paul Rudd is

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Speaker 1: Aunt Man Evangeline Lily. For those of you out there

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Speaker 1: who watched Loss back in the day, which was a

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Speaker 1: really fun show, is the Wasp? I watched it. So

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Speaker 1: my my eight year old, in particular, my second grader,

547
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Speaker 1: is as many second graders, I would say, especially these

548
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Speaker 1: days are, but even back when I was a kid

549
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Speaker 1: too obsessed with superheroes. Right. So he watches every one

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Speaker 1: of these superhero movies, and he also watches along with

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Speaker 1: my wife Laura. They watch a lot of the different paraphernalia,

552
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Speaker 1: you know, like the shows that surround them that air,

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Speaker 1: So he's kind of an expert on superheroes. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, about halfway through this ant Man

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Speaker 1: in the Wasp movie, I'm sitting next to my eight

556
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Speaker 1: year old and I have to lean over to him

557
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Speaker 1: and start asking him all sorts of questions so that

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Speaker 1: I can keep up with what's going on. In the movie,

559
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Speaker 1: and it's a new low. I think in my ability

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Speaker 1: to comprehend narratives that I can't even keep up now

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Speaker 1: with superhero movies. So I have to ask my kid, like, now,

562
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Speaker 1: who is this guy? Why does he matter? And there's

563
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Speaker 1: got to be other parents out there with me that

564
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Speaker 1: are in this camp now where you just can't even

565
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Speaker 1: keep up because they've created such a universe of all

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Speaker 1: the different superheroes that you know, my head's just spinning.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going on now? So speaking

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Speaker 1: of parents, Clay, Yeah, while I was on my honeymoon there.

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Speaker 1: The place I went was in Bora Bora, and it's

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Speaker 1: it's a romantic place. It's supposed to be quiet and beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Pretty Much everybody there was either you know, older couples

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Speaker 1: who were looking to get away, you know, people who

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Speaker 1: had been married maybe twenty thirty years, and honeymooners. But

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Speaker 1: there were one or two couples that decided to bring

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Speaker 1: not their eight year olds, not their twelve year olds, infants,

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Speaker 1: basically children two and below. And it's not a big place.

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Speaker 1: It's not a big place. The beach area is small.

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Speaker 1: There's like a there's nowhere to go either, you can't escape.

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Speaker 1: And there's one family particularly brought two children, maybe they

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Speaker 1: were two years old and like, you know, eight months old.

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Speaker 1: They would set up two, not one, two iPads at

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Speaker 1: the table when everybody would be eating. Because again it's

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Speaker 1: a resort. You have no there's no restaurants, there's no town.

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Speaker 1: You can't escape, right, this is where you're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, the white lotus. Yeah, yeah, you're there,

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Speaker 1: set up two iPads at the table. No headphones because

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Speaker 1: you know, the kids are too young, I guess to

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Speaker 1: actually be expected to use headphones, so they're just blasting

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Speaker 1: like SpongeBob or whatever. I mean. This is a very

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Speaker 1: nice resort. People have paid a lot of money to

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Speaker 1: be here, and I think it's outrageous. I'm gonna tell you,

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Speaker 1: if your kids are well behaved, great, I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: to anybody whose kids are well behaved. But if you're

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Speaker 1: two year old is screaming and thrown as spaghetti across

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Speaker 1: the room, when people are paying a lot of money

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Speaker 1: to be on a vacation, being a getaway, you are

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Speaker 1: the problem. I don't know what else to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are a response the same way that you know yea,

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Speaker 1: it drives me insane. I'll just say that we got

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Speaker 1: this story sent to us and a no one in

601
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Speaker 1: this audience would ever be the problem because they all

602
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Speaker 1: have incredibly well behaved children, and they understand that they

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Speaker 1: have to be respectful and considered of their fellow human

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Speaker 1: beings around them. But this restaurant in New Jersey, Nettie's

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Speaker 1: House of Spaghetti, that banned all children under ten. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I respect the game, I respect it. This seems like,

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Speaker 1: first of all, as soon as you have kids, so

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Speaker 1: many of your opinions on kids are going to pivot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, as soon as you are responsible for a child,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna be like either the rules can change. But

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Speaker 1: I will say this, the restaurant banning kids under ten,

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Speaker 1: that's a real mess, right, So do they? I d like,

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Speaker 1: how do you know whether a kid is like eleven

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Speaker 1: or ten? So here's the thing. The problem comes in

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Speaker 1: when parents essentially will tell you it's not my fault

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Speaker 1: the child can't be reasoned with because they're too young.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, they should not be in a

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Speaker 1: place where they can ruin the dining experience for everybody else.

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Speaker 1: That's on the parents. Bringing them. YEA, if they're old

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Speaker 1: enough to listen to reason, then they should be able

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Speaker 1: to be there because you could say, he little Timmy

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Speaker 1: or little Sarah or whatever, be quiet. People are trying

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Speaker 1: to have a nice dinner, and the child can process

624
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Speaker 1: that information. You, as a parent, i will say, can

625
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Speaker 1: think that your kid is perfect and they can flip

626
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Speaker 1: from an angel to devil instantaneously based on almost nothing

627
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Speaker 1: that you do yourself as a parent. And this reminds me,

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Speaker 1: by the way, this ten year old age thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was down at Universal Studios last year. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I mentioned this, and my youngest kid really

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Speaker 1: buck wanted to ride the Hagrid Ride, saying, little kid,

632
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Speaker 1: that's given me all the tips on the Marvel movies

633
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Speaker 1: and they have the you know, the height restriction and

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Speaker 1: literally he's at it like I mean, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: millimeters of difference. And he was really upset because he

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Speaker 1: got turned away the year before. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: this is a brilliant parenting move or or everybody's gonna

638
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: be like this is a disaster idea. I rolled up

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Speaker 1: his socks in his tennis shoes, put them underneath his

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Speaker 1: heel so that he could get that extra millimeter of

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Speaker 1: height to be able to ride the Hagard Ride. So

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Speaker 1: I like that. I won. You're gonna see rolled up

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Speaker 1: one hundred dollar bill and put the wallet in the

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Speaker 1: put the wallet in the shoe. But I felt like

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Speaker 1: that was a parenting hack. Just roll up the tennis hue,

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Speaker 1: you know, the socks that he was wearing, put them

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Speaker 1: under his heel boom. He got to ride the ride

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Speaker 1: that he was going to ride. So the ten year

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Speaker 1: old being banned, I think there's probably a lot of

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Speaker 1: people who are getting told that they're different age than

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Speaker 1: they actually are. I think it's just about the behavior

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Speaker 1: and if you beha