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On the next episode, we are going to 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: be joined by Torres Fontaine, friend of the show, who 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: was a practice player in the South Carolina women's program. 29 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: So very excited to get some insight on Don Staley 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: and the game Cacts just won their national championship. As always, 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones hosted by my good friends Dragonfly Jones 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: aka Tyler. 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody off a game, the Jethro Jenkins aka John 34 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: what's that bubb Us? 35 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: And before we get to college hoops, we do have 36 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: to talk a little bit of NBA because there's some 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: big news. Very proud to be a Lakers fan. The 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: Lakers beat the Warriors one hundred and thirty four to 39 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty three to advance to the G 40 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: League Western Conference semi Finals. South Bay Lakers, but by 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: mac McClung, dropping twenty seven and ten in a close out. 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: W this is what Lakers Nation is all about. 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: They tried to tell me this season was a disappointment. 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: We're going to the fucking semi finals. 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 4: Bro, theleag motherfucking the Suns zipped them boys up second 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: year in a row. 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: Man, Damn, I don't know. It's it's wild. 48 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 4: I don't feel any type of way about it. It's 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 4: it's more. I guess I'm a bit relieved that I 50 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: don't have to go through the fake hope of maybe 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: saying that they'll pull it together. But because I started 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: to give it up on that fucking pipe dream, you know. 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 5: What I mean? 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 4: So you know, just just go ahead and take old 55 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: Yeller out back and put it out as misery. Man, 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: it's time, bro, this was. 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 5: The worst experiment ever. I am the bro like, this 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 5: is the worst science exper I ever seen. 59 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: Bro. 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 5: Y'all know I've tapped out like ten games in. I'm like, this, 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 5: ain't it, y'all? Like it's bron he can do anything. 62 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 5: I'm like, not today, boll, but not with them Uncle Legs. 63 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. He can get his thirty, 64 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 5: but he can't guarantee you help everybody else. Gee, you 65 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 5: feel me like Dawn great year for Brian, you know 66 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: what I mean? I don't know how I feel about 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 5: eighty experiment When we're talking about this shit. The most 68 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 5: important thing you need to do as a basketball players 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 5: be available. He's played and I think he's playing sixty 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 5: something games in two seasons. Bro, We're playing were paying 71 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 5: Westbrook forty seven million, you know what I mean? Next year, 72 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: I don't know what needs to be done, but something 73 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 5: needs to be done. Gee, Bron's wasting years, and you know, 74 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 5: we can't expect him to be putting this much effort 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: into trash ass seasons. We need to see him playing 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 5: with his son, you feel what I'm saying. So I 77 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 5: think that's the goal. Now, preserve Brin until he's forty 78 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 5: eight and Bronni's in the league, you know what I mean? 79 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. 80 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: You know, lowered expectations or whatever you want to call it. 81 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: I had high hopes, man. You know, if Bron could 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: have got a ring for Russ and Mellow, like two 83 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: of my favorite fucking hoopers ever, like, this would have 84 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 4: been a perfect season. But you know we knew early. 85 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: You know this this ship wasn't clicking, Bro, This curl 86 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 4: was not quite curling. 87 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: I was like, man was not quite rolling. Yeah, yeah, 89 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: so you don't remember that time. Who's gonna stopped. 90 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 5: The picking roll with Westbrook? Fucking everybody? 91 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: Everybody? 92 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 5: Eybody me, you show me attendance. 93 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: You know everybody was gonna stop that. They were gonna 94 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: stop themselves. Right, How do y'all feel about eighty for? 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: I know he's great, He's a god tear player when 96 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: he's healthy. But we he's just not been healthy, you 97 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And it feels like twenty the bubbles. 98 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: You know that that year was somewhat of an anomaly. 99 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: You know, I'll say this first of all because and 100 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: I understand people hate the Lakers. 101 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's all good. 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: People write people who write off the bubble championship or something. 103 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: It's kind of hilarious to me. 104 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: Like so to me, like, you make a trade, you 105 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: give up some young players who are good but who 106 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: are not going to win you a championship, and you 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: and you get a championship out of it. Any professional 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: sports team, I know the Lakers are one of those 109 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: teams where the fans expect a championship every year, But 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: any professional sports team that makes a move that leads 111 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: to a championship, the move works right, And you know, 112 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: especially for me that being during the pandemic. That's like 113 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: one of my favorite sports moments ever, was being stuck 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: at home with my family and actually having something to 115 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: be happy about for a couple of weeks during the playoffs. 116 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: Since then, you know, it has definitely been a rough 117 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: couple of seasons. Ad unfortunately, was getting some of the 118 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 2: best jokes off at the Lakers expense last night. He said, 119 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: we have more starting lineups, then win. 120 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: He was right. 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: I think he has to know that that's centered on him, 122 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: you know, So I just hope that he does whatever 123 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: he needs to do. Some injury stuff's out of your control, 124 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: some of it's not out of your control, and I 125 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: hope that he does whatever he needs to do physically 126 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: this offseason to come back ready. 127 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: But I would have thought this would have been the 128 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: year that he did that. 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: So, you know, I don't really know what to I 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: don't really know what to say about it. I think 131 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: the criticisms of Braun the last week for not playing 132 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: are the stupidest fucking thing ever. 133 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: The dude is the age he is. 134 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: That's a legit ankle roll. People who don't understand that 135 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: once you roll an ankle a couple of times you 136 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: roll it easier, don't. 137 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: They don't. 138 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: They've never rolled an ankle, you know what I mean. 139 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: But that dude fucked his ankle up. I wouldn't be 140 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: out here grinding bone on bone right now either to 141 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 2: try and make the ten seed so you could play 142 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: the Suns if you win to game, so you could 143 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: play the Sons who just cooked you. 144 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: Like you know, I don't. 145 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: I'm fully behind Braun wrestling and supporting him. You know, 146 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: his his getting ready for next year. But as far 147 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: as ad, the trade was a success. They won a championship, 148 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: But last two years, yeah, the trade was a success. 149 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 5: I'm talk thinking about the future. We needed the last 150 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 5: two years for a D to be the best player 151 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 5: on the team in order for them to be what 152 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 5: we expected them to be, and we just don't get that. Partially. 153 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I agree he played it was rough at 154 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: the beginning of the season, but he played great when 155 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 5: he was back. But he just wasn't healthy, you know 156 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So when he's available, he's fucking a D. 157 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: But he just is not available, and I don't know 158 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 5: how that changes as he gets older, you know what 159 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: I mean. And like you said, season standing on a 160 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 5: fucking balance board and stop falling down every twenty fucking seconds. 161 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: It drives me crazy. 162 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 5: Doesn't get that core right or whatever you need to 163 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 5: do on that fucking app ball, you know what I'm saying, 164 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: to get those get that shit stabilized or whatever. But Bro, 165 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: I don't know it needs to be done. But I mean, 166 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: I don't, I don't. I'm I feel like he brought 167 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 5: this up. Some of those injuries, man like. I mean, 168 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 5: there's a frequent obviously when like you know, Bron actually 169 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 5: bumped the player into him and all that, But I don't, 170 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: I don't. I'm wondering if he is just one of 171 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 5: those guys. I mean, Bron is different. You know, Bron 172 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 5: does that ship, but also Bron has a bill that 173 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 5: allows him to take a lot of punishment. Ad he 174 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily have that build. Most people don't. So I 175 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 5: don't know if it's gonna change. 176 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: I mean a d you know, he tried. We saw 177 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 4: him bulkup. He came in about fifteen pounds heavier, and 178 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 4: that fluidity that he had that made him a fucking minute, 179 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: that ship was gone because of that, you know what 180 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: I mean. So so we can't go back route again, so. 181 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: It'll be a live pull down. 182 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah right, So I honestly don't know what you do 183 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: with with a D here. Besides, you know, pray and 184 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 4: hope for the best. But but as as far as 185 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: you knows, you know, are there any regrets about moving forward? 186 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 5: You know? 187 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: And how they you know, blew up the young core 188 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 4: for ad? No, No, I don't think you're going. 189 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 5: Question. Yeah, yeah, because. 190 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: Laker haters are all over that like, oh, you bubble championship, 191 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: you know whatever. 192 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 5: Whatever, whatever, And that's that's I mean. 193 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: For one, you don't win championships with you, you know 194 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: what I mean? And two, young cores usually break themselves up, 195 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: right like, like you know, young guys want more of 196 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: a spotlight and they'll leave. They want a bigger bag 197 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: that that their team won't be able to give them, 198 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: and they leave. Young cores usually do not stick together anyway. 199 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: So if you got it in you to blow that 200 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 4: shit up and get a ring out of it, blow 201 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: that motherfucker up, you know what I'm saying. So it's 202 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any regrets on the Lakers on 203 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 4: that part. 204 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 205 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: All right, anyone else have anything mean to say? About 206 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: the Lakers or can we tell nothing to mean talk 207 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: about the fat children. Yeah, what's interesting is. 208 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 5: People saying that, like you know, Magic is dry snitching 209 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 5: on Bron. Yeah, we already knew, you know what I mean, 210 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 5: we knew. We knew when with Chris Haynes and when 211 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: he was reporting what Bron said, so that Bron was, 212 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 5: you know, putting out there that he wanted. No, we 213 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: knew that. I knew that was cap And it's okay 214 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: to say Bron wanted Westbrook. I get it, you know 215 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. It's it's you know, GM Lebron. He's 216 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 5: one chips being GM Lebron. You can make a mistake. 217 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 5: This is a big mistake, you know what I'm saying. 218 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: It was a bad experiment. But it's okay, Bro, he 219 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 5: made that decision. He won in Westbrook. I get it. 220 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 5: We all wanted Westbrook to work out. We're all excited 221 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 5: when emotional, emotionally, emostly. But yeah, like you said, like 222 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: I said, once once I thought for eight seconds I 223 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 5: didn't see it making sense, and it didn't. 224 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I give you credit for being It's always 225 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: fun to be right when you're cynical and it's always 226 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 2: fun to quit early and be right about that too. 227 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: And I give you credit for both of those things. 228 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: You were. 229 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 5: This might not have before year another year and a half, 230 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 5: so you might not be right. 231 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 2: You cuit eight games in and you had a much 232 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: more enjoyable winner than Tyler and I did. 233 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 6: I went, I went to the game. I went to 234 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 6: the game when they played the Pelicans and they lost. 235 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 6: I enjoyed the hell out of that loss. Bron gave 236 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 6: me thirty eight. I didn't give a fuck about a dug. 237 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 6: I knew they won't going nowhere anyway. I'm just there, 238 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 6: you know, I'm just there to enjoying myself. 239 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: So I mean, and truth we told I wasn't locked 240 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 4: in and like all the way in best and I 241 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: was like, hey man, you. 242 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: Never know, you never know. Bron is still run. And 243 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 5: I was like, I think we know now this happened 244 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 5: and Bron is still Bron. He can't out he couldn't. 245 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: He couldn't. 246 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: Bron. 247 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: I don't think he averages the second most points of 248 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: his career. 249 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, this but this Brond this but like we saw 250 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 5: a lot of it was taken away from defense. I mean, 251 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 5: we're looking at I'm looking at Bron on the defensive end, 252 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 5: and he doesn't have like the same amount of he 253 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 5: doesn't have the same engine he had or the same 254 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 5: goal he had. He could do it on both sides 255 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 5: for you know, for he's playing three point. 256 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: He's playing three point line to three point line. 257 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's this is this is Bron's old man game, 258 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 5: and it's beautiful to one. 259 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: It's thirty point thirty point old man game. 260 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 5: But we shouldn't expect the old man to be out 261 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: there stopping motherfuckers on d either. And he can't get 262 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 5: really can't really get by people, is like he used 263 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 5: to either. But as stroke I mean, the way he's playing, 264 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: it's it's up top. 265 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: He's got thirty six thirty seven from you know what 266 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: I mean. He it was an impressive reinvention. It just 267 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: the team needs an impressive reinvention to to not waste 268 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: next year. All right, let's talk college news for a 269 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: couple of minutes. We've got cock talk coming up with towards, 270 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: but first we got to have some rock chock talk. 271 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 5: We got bro I wish I never said that was 272 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 5: the worst shit the it is the best we are getting. 273 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 4: We are getting paid we are getting paid, you have 274 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: a continual cock being on our podcast. 275 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 6: By all of this, there will always be space in 276 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 6: my heart for cock talk. 277 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I'll tell you that we're good for you. 278 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 5: Man, Jesus, what do we. 279 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: Think Tyler is a North Carolina fan? If I told 280 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: you before the tournament started you could you can ruin 281 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: Coach K's retirement party but not win a championship. I 282 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: feel like you take that one hundred times out of 283 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: one hundred? 284 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: Does losing? 285 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: Does blowing the biggest lead ever in a championship game? 286 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 2: Does that cut back in the other direction? Like, how 287 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: do you feel now that you've had a couple of 288 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: days of space from it? How do you feel about 289 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: the tournament as a whole for North Carolina? 290 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: I think it does. I think it gives Duke fans ammo. Unfortunately. 291 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 4: I think that you know, whenever you know Carolina fans 292 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: is gonna clown a Duke fan about how you know 293 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: Carolina sent Coach K's ass home, the Duke fan is 294 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 4: gonna pull out that motherfucking Okay, well, what happened the 295 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: next game out there? 296 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 3: Back bocker? You know what I mean? 297 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 4: They're gonna slam that car down on the table, and 298 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: you know, of course I'm I'm sick for you and 299 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: see that they didn't win a championship. I wanted them 300 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 4: to win it. But you know, it was it was 301 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: a hell of a run. You know, an eight seed, 302 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: you know, getting to the championship. You know, a team 303 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 4: that wasn't ranked. You know, Carolina was getting spanked this year. 304 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 4: They had like fucking three or four to twenty thirty 305 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: point losses and to make it to the championship, man 306 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: and and and you know, get that close, it's it's 307 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: it's there's nothing to be proud of. Like Hubert Davis 308 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: himself said that, you know, he he's he felt weirdly, 309 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: he was he said that he felt really happy. He 310 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: wasn't disappointed at all, which is like a whole fucking 311 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: one to eighty from Remember when when nobody hit that 312 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: game winning, that motherfucker was ugly crying in the locker room. 313 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 4: You remember that shit, Like yeah, it's yeah, so yeah, 314 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: you know, it's there's nothing to be ashamed of. And 315 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: like you know, a college sports you know, I'm saying 316 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 4: like like like John, I say, you're two where you 317 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: like after the game, I just turned it off because 318 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 4: you know, seeing those kids get their heart broken and 319 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: crying and shit like that ship does something to us, 320 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 4: you know, in our older years now and and you know, 321 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: I unfortunately someone has to lose these games, and I 322 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 4: you know, I hate that it was Carolina, but you know, 323 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: congrats to Kansas. 324 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, bro, that's what That's what tripped me out. I mean, 325 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 5: it's I've noticed it more, but like this year, I 326 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 5: just after the games turn it off. 327 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: I can't sit and watch. 328 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: These kids take that l you know what I mean. 329 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: But I mean, bro, you can't. I wouldn't if a 330 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: fan relies on another team winning to make you feel bad, 331 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: you know, like I just couldn't give a fuck about 332 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: somebody saying what happened next game, but what happened in 333 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 5: the game. We actually played, motherfucker. But I remember, I 334 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: remember my homie Hump hit me up when the first 335 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 5: time the Duke was when Coach K's last game, when 336 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 5: when Duke took the l and he and he was 337 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 5: talking about North Carolina. I was like, Yo, how is 338 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 5: how is un C look this year? Because he's a 339 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 5: UNC fan, And he was like, man, they trash, Y'll 340 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 5: probably gonna cook us. You know what I mean. And 341 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 5: I think that game started them being like okay, you 342 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: know we we really got what got that got that 343 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 5: innoc and it got them to this chip. So I 344 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: don't know, man, I like I said, you know, I'm 345 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: I'm if I'm rooted for anybody that route for the crib, 346 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I wanted to see, 347 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 5: you know, caler Love get his off. He seemed little timid, 348 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, not as aggressive as he's been. Uh, 349 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 5: but I mean, you know, good player. Hope to see 350 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 5: him the league doing this thing, you know what I mean. 351 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: But uh, it's it's that that but seeing seeing these 352 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 5: kids like break down and like you know, fucking puff 353 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: Johnson throwing up because he's going so crazy, you know, 354 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 5: Like I mean, like you see what they give to it, 355 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 5: you know, back hot, you know what I'm saying, coming 356 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 5: playing as hard as he was, you know what I'm saying. 357 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 5: Bacot without the without the with with this, with the 358 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: ankle injury hurting it again, Like man, like it's it's 359 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 5: you see everything these kids give it to it, even 360 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: even in the when they're playing Duke, when Bay, when 361 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 5: Bacot was hurt, was walking off. He could even put 362 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 5: pressure on that ankle, and he was walking off. He's 363 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 5: decided to come back. One of his players looked at 364 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 5: me and looked at his player. He said, fuck it, 365 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 5: that's that shit brought me like I had chills when 366 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 5: I saw that shit. I'm like, young man, you know 367 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 5: what I mean. You got twenty repounds, bro, you got 368 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 5: a future ahead of you. Take care of yourself, you 369 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 5: know what I mean. And he came out there and 370 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: still play. 371 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 372 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 5: It's hard to see kids putting that much amount of 373 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 5: effort in this stuff and then taking ills. But I said, 374 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 5: somebody has to lose. 375 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: I think it's it's a you know, the format of 376 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: the tournament is so fun to watch as a fan, 377 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: but it really is the cruelest sports tournament that you've got. 378 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: How many teams are in there now? Sixty eight teams 379 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: you have, sixty seven teams are crying and did it 380 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: sixty seven get in. 381 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 5: You knowing home half of them. 382 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: It's a huge deal that they're there and they're gone 383 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: twenty four hours after they get to the fucking venue. 384 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 385 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: It's a It is cruel and punishing, And I think 386 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy that the UNC Duke stuff shook 387 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: out the way it did such that Kansas winning and 388 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 2: that's no championship. They were a one seed. It's not 389 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: like they snuck up on anyone. 390 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: Right right. It was like the most under the radar 391 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: sports story ever. 392 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: But even so, like the only other note I had 393 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 2: that I wanted to talk about was what the fuck 394 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: was up with the court UNC? 395 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: It looked like they played a football game. 396 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 5: They had half the. 397 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: Team didn't make it out of the fucking game. 398 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: They had dudes barfing, they had Mann. It goes down 399 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: on a loose floorboard in the national championship game. I mean, 400 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,479 Speaker 2: that's the craziest shit I've ever seen. But you got 401 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: to you gotta double check the floors put together, bro, 402 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: Come on, man, this is national championship. 403 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was That was a tough break right there, 404 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: No pun intended. I don't know, it just feels, you know, weird, 405 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 4: like like there was a whole lot of pushback when 406 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: the Final four went to like the football dome model, 407 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, A lot of you know, 408 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: people were concerned with one like depth of section because 409 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: it fucks up the kind of gameplay a bit there, 410 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 4: but you know, shit like that, man, where where they're 411 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 4: not even you know, putting the fucking floorboards down right, 412 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: like goddamn get it together in C double A. 413 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: Well, you know this underrated part of basketball too. 414 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I covered an NC double 415 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 2: A game where the decal was not the right kind 416 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: of decal that they had stuck down on the court 417 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: and kids were slipping on it. 418 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 3: I mean, you know what I mean. 419 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: It's shit like that where it's just like, because basketball 420 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 2: is indoors, you don't think of it the way you 421 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: do with football or baseball or something where you're like, 422 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: if there's issues with the playing surface, it's a safety concern. 423 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: You don't really hear people talk about that in basketball, 424 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: but it absolutely is a huge issue in basketball, and 425 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: I should have something like that appter the National Championship. 426 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: I was kind of shocked. 427 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 5: Then you get that face. 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I don't 460 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: feel like everyone understands this aspect of the women's game, 461 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: but we've written a. 462 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 3: Couple of them. 463 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: Those are always like the wildest features, and I think 464 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm glad John had the idea to bring you on. 465 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: So can you first just explain. 466 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: What a practice player is for the people who don't 467 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: follow women's basketball. 468 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure. 469 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 7: First of all, as a practice player, I think in 470 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 7: the beginning, you kind of come in thinking like I'm 471 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 7: just here to get some shots up to hope a 472 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 7: little bit. But no, Bro, you actually coached like you're 473 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 7: one of the players. So you might have one of 474 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 7: the assistant coaches that are like giving you plays, They're 475 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 7: making sure you're doing the right things on defense. The 476 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 7: only thing they really ask if you're playing against a 477 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 7: women's team is just to play below the rim. Other 478 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 7: than that, like you out there going hard, bro, like 479 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 7: you like you're actually a d like Lizza. As a 480 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 7: D one athlete, you can, you know, enjoy all the 481 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 7: perks that D one athletes enjoy. 482 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: But you you have to academically qualified, yeah. 483 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 7: To qualify too. 484 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. 485 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: Well we had a story of Long Beach State and 486 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: one of the male practice practice players for the women's 487 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: basketball team was academically ineligible when they were going. 488 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 3: To the conference tournament, and the coach was like, you. 489 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: Believe the ship I gotta deal with out here is 490 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: fucking get on the practice squad, make grades. 491 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 492 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 7: They don't funk around, man, they don't mess around for sure. No, No, 493 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 7: I was gonna say so. 494 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: Something that that really jumped out to me was when 495 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 4: when Dawn Staley after after she got her you know, 496 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 4: after she won the chip, she shouted out the bench players. 497 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 4: She shouted out, you know, the players who might not 498 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: have played in the championship game, but you know they 499 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 4: were the ones who you know, helped them with game 500 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: preparation and practice all the time. And that just floored me, 501 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: right because I know Don Staley is super solid, but 502 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: you don't see coaches like shout out you know, bench 503 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: players who don't get in the game and and and 504 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: for her to do it, you know, after beating Yukon 505 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 4: against a coach like Gino, do you know have the 506 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: number one player in the country in flat out say 507 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 4: she was horrible today, you know what I mean. 508 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: But like it's two different ends of the. 509 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 4: Spectrum with with with the way those two approach the 510 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 4: game of scenes, and so you know, I'm just kind 511 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 4: of curious, like you know, from someone who's been on 512 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: the inside and work with Don Stanley, like like like, 513 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: how would you say that she approaches the game in 514 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: her preparation and making you know, every player feel valuable, 515 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 4: because that moment like spoke vinds for her character. 516 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 517 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 7: I mean it might sound cliche, but she really preaches 518 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 7: people playing their roles. And it's not it's not saying 519 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 7: that she's not gonna coach hard to the players who 520 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 7: might not play as much. It's it's actually quite the opposite, 521 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 7: like she's going to coach you like you're you know, 522 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 7: like you're gonna go out there and play forty minutes, 523 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like she's she's really, she's 524 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 7: really uh brought the system to South Carolina that even 525 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 7: if you don't play as much, like you're here for 526 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 7: a reason. And so one thing, one quote that she said, 527 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 7: uh a few days ago, I think she said, you're 528 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 7: dealing with these kids' dreams. And I was like, damn, 529 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 7: Like that's so real because when she when you look 530 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 7: at it that way, you can't you can't cut corners, 531 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 7: you can't like a lot of these kids, you can't 532 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 7: try to prop them up on a pedestal, like you 533 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 7: have to realize that they're going to be gone from 534 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 7: your school one day and they're going to be on 535 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 7: the real world. And I think that's what don really 536 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 7: that's how she approaches the game. 537 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 3: Uh. 538 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 5: When I read that article, I think it was in 539 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 5: Sports Illustrator. So I'm dealing with those these kids dreams 540 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 5: that don't take that lightly, yeah, And I mean that 541 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 5: that blew me away. Like you know, when you're thinking 542 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 5: about the person on in of the bench, that's why 543 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: you call that person out because they had a role 544 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 5: to play and she made the coach the coach them 545 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 5: up with that role. But how was your experience playing 546 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 5: against you know? Like she she the recruits she brings 547 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 5: saying are cold as hell, bro, You know what I mean. 548 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 5: She has a few that made it to the league. 549 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Ajia Wilson, I think was 550 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 5: playing for South Carolina too, You feel what I'm saying. 551 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 5: So how is george sperience playing because a lot of 552 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 5: dudes talk that ship, bro, But I mean, you know, 553 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 5: you're like you said, we talked about a little bit 554 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: before and that might hit you with that here here, 555 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 5: you don't know what Tom is. You know what I'm saying. 556 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 7: It was funny because when when I like my last 557 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 7: year there Asia was, she was doing a visit. She 558 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 7: was doing an official visit and one of the players, 559 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 7: Lisa Well, she came over. She put her arm around me. 560 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 7: She was like, come to South Carolina. She grabbed another 561 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 7: dude named Chris put On round here, and she said, 562 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 7: this is the type of dudes we got here, a 563 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 7: South Carolina. 564 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 4: Cat On. 565 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: He is handsome. You can't see him, but he is 566 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 5: handsome that you know what I'm saying. He earned that Fonteine. 567 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 7: You we get in, we get into practice and they 568 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 7: talking us, Bro, like they they it's really on some 569 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 7: ship where you think you got to kind of like 570 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 7: tone it down because you're as a man, you're probably 571 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 7: more athletic, sometimes you might be stronger. That was not 572 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 7: the case at all, man like, and don treated it 573 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 7: that way too. I remember her stopping practice a few 574 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 7: times and asking me like can you go by her? 575 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 7: And I'm like, what are you what you mean? She's like, 576 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 7: can you can you get past her off the dribble. 577 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 7: I'm like yeah, She's like do it? You know, I hit, 578 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 7: I hit a little move, go to the cup. A 579 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 7: five five guard literally took the ball out of my 580 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 7: hands as I went up for the layup. Bro just 581 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 7: snatched it and started to break. So that's the type 582 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 7: of that's the type of like like tenacity that they 583 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 7: play with. And I don't know how she gets them 584 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 7: to buy into that, Bro, but it's like every player 585 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 7: plays like this is my last game. I'm about to 586 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 7: show you, like why I belong here, why I should 587 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 7: be in the positions that we're in, you know what 588 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 7: I'm saying. But yeah, I mean there were some dogs, man. 589 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: I think, like now, it's great, the women's game has 590 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: gotten so much more acceptance. Like they they sold out 591 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: the Final four, you know what I mean. 592 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 3: The ratings. 593 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: I think we're good on ESPN. But when I first 594 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: started covering college sports, like fifteen years ago, the only 595 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: the people who had the most respect for women's basketball 596 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: in the country were male practice players for women's basketball teams. 597 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: Make they were the ones. 598 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean, this is pre Twitter even, you know what 599 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean, Like this is this is pre Twitter. 600 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: And it was like, those are the people who. 601 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 2: Because I'm still in touch with some people from when 602 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: we were in college who you know, whenever the stupid 603 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: like how would you do against XWNBA player stuff will 604 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 2: come around, It's like the NBA guys were like no, 605 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: and the people who were on the practice teams were. 606 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: Like, no, right, it's not what you think, man, Is 607 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 5: that what you're not what you think? 608 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 7: I didn't been literally posted up by a person my size, 609 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 7: my same height, you know what I'm saying, probably weigh 610 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 7: less ten pounds less than me. Just it in the 611 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 7: basket by a woman basketball player. 612 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:03,120 Speaker 5: Man. 613 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 7: So it's it's tough out. 614 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 5: And I would say this too. You can actually too. 615 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 5: You a hooper, bro, You ain't just a dude, you 616 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like I'm not you know what 617 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 5: I'm saying. Are you still booming? You know what I'm saying, 618 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 5: like a dog that don't make no sense. I don't 619 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 5: see how you still doing it. But you was definitely 620 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 5: a hooper. 621 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 7: So look, I'll say this, like not to brag or anything, 622 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 7: but the first time I've done it the basketball is 623 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 7: in the seventh grade. Man, I was like five eight. 624 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: So he's not regular by any standards, you know, but 625 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: I have got got. 626 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 5: The boys, you know what I'm saying. 627 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 7: I had an older sister though, who used to bust 628 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 7: my ass because she just understood who Like she had 629 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 7: better footwork, she had a better jump shot. All I 630 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 7: could do is jump at the time, you know. So 631 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 7: my older sister, you know, she put that respect in 632 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 7: me early as a youngster. 633 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 5: Let you know what time it is, yeah, for sure, exactly. 634 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: You know South Carolina, it's it's a slept on basketball 635 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 4: hot bad, you know what I mean. Like, like you 636 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: got John, you got signed, you got you know, don 637 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: Stalion and the game Cats on top of the college 638 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 4: where you know you got Ray Allen and KG from there, 639 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 4: So so yeah, I'm just I'm just curious, man, you 640 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: give us some insight into like what the basketball scene 641 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: is like out there. 642 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 7: I mean, uh, if y'all have hooped where y'all are from, 643 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 7: you probably you probably know this, but like, like you, 644 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 7: you don't have a lot of resources all the time. 645 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 7: So I'm being from here. So it's really you hooping 646 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 7: on the concrete, like you hooping with grown men, John, 647 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 7: You probably hooped with dudes who were way older than you, 648 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 7: way stronger, way bigger. 649 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: You know. 650 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 7: And I'm like, I'm not sure because you know, that's 651 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 7: just it just seems normal to us. But I can't 652 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 7: imagine that would hurt you when you when you get 653 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 7: to play more organized basketball that's in a gym with 654 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 7: hardwood where you don't have to worry about dunking the 655 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 7: goal too hard and and breaking the rim or something that. 656 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 5: Okay, Champagne problems bro about that, bro, you know what 657 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 5: I mean? 658 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 7: Didn't have a land yeah, man, but it's just it's 659 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 7: just like it's tough, bro. Like I remember playing as 660 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 7: a young and my possible was a hooper too. You know, 661 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 7: my whole family was hoopers and my granddad taught us 662 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 7: how to play. Like he had a little goal in 663 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 7: the backyard and he got concrete put down and we 664 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 7: used to hoop there every day. You know what I'm saying, 665 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 7: Like you get beat up, bruised up, like you got 666 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 7: older people beat money on the game, so you just 667 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 7: kind of it kind of it kind of puts that 668 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 7: that competitiveness into you. You know what I'm saying, Like 669 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 7: you're dealing with pressure from the time you're like eight, 670 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 7: cause it's like thirty year olds like, yeah, my son, 671 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 7: my son's gonna be all all state next year. 672 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 5: Watch watch you know what I'm saying. So and if 673 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: they pull you up to the old because you know, 674 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 5: like there's usually two courts. It's one with the young 675 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 5: cats and then there's one with the hoopers and the 676 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 5: old dudes. When you get pulled up from that young joint, 677 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, you want to show out, 678 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 5: you feel what I'm saying, Like when you're playing with 679 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 5: the old hans, they betting. I would never bet myself, 680 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 5: but I would appreciate people that better on me, you 681 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But that was that was interesting 682 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 5: you bringing me back. I forgot about all that Lo Kato. 683 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, you got the park tournaments in the hood where 684 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 7: it's like they got a grill out there, they got 685 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 7: a DJ and it's like two of the oldest basketball 686 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 7: goals you've ever seen in your life. 687 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: Bro. 688 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 7: The court is half painted. You know what I'm saying. 689 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 7: It's a nigga out there with the leaf flow. 690 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he got a leaf flower. You got 691 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: that ship for you know what I'm saying. 692 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 5: I remember, I remember there was a I think she 693 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 5: was from I know she's from South Carolina Norook Carolina, 694 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 5: but I think it's similar as far as basketball. I 695 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 5: mean the love and I've been in both states and 696 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 5: spent time in both states, and the love is similar. 697 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 5: But I remember she said that she went to school 698 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 5: in Virginia and when she left, she found that's the 699 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 5: first time she ever saw niggas. Didn't who? She was like, 700 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. She was like, oh, niggas, 701 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 5: that's nigga, said, don't who. I thought everybody hooped, Bro, 702 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So like I think South 703 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 5: Carolina is that where like you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, 704 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 5: every I seem like everybody hoo's you know what I mean, 705 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 5: Like whatever level you're on, you still hoop. 706 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 7: And it's interesting because like I don't. I don't think 707 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 7: I ever really had a hoop dream because I was 708 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 7: I was always better at football, but it was kind 709 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 7: of like people still stay in shape, like like I'm 710 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 7: I'm thirty now, and I still like I want to 711 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 7: be in shape so I can go home and hoop 712 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 7: when it's time to hoop, you know what I'm saying. Like, 713 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 7: and it's not even that you know, I'm trying to 714 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 7: make it to the league or like you know, I 715 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 7: didn't already been to college and all that shit, but 716 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 7: it's like everybody has this mentality where like I got 717 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 7: to be able to go home and play in that 718 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 7: tournament so we can win like two hundred and fifty dollars. 719 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, It's really really about, right, 720 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 7: It's really about being able to go to the bar 721 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 7: after and be like, yo, I bust y'all ass today. 722 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. How does it feel seeing 723 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 5: her win? How does it feel like, you know, you 724 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 5: watching don Staley be successful, like knowing how solid she 725 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 5: isn't having experience like you said, you know, you told me, 726 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: you know, y'all built the friendship she you know what 727 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 5: I'm saying, y'all built after you leaving school, you feel me? 728 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, just just to kind of talk about that 729 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 7: a little bit. When I left school, I left us 730 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 7: See twenty twelve, and I started working at a nonprofit 731 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 7: art house theater in Colombia in twenty thirteen. And when 732 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 7: I I think it may be a year into that job, 733 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 7: I started seeing Don come in late night, and one 734 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 7: day I just kind of worked up the courage to 735 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 7: be like, hey, hey, don you remember me. I used 736 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 7: to play on your practice team. Came in, She like, 737 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 7: she looked at She's. 738 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: Like, what who you are? 739 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: Bro? Those are the hardest moments in adulthood. Bro, I 740 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: hate shit. 741 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 7: It's like you're too old to be like shy about it, 742 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 7: but you're also like I'm not your age, so I 743 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 7: can't approach it. 744 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 5: And also, you know what I'm saying, she's done for me. 745 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 7: But I got a chance to like thank her for 746 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 7: for making me a part of her, part of the 747 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 7: team or whatever, and she was just like, you know, 748 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 7: that means a lot to me. And every time she 749 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 7: would come in, like we would chop it up about movies. 750 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 7: She would like throw little hints and be like, hey, 751 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 7: you know, my favorite movie is Ghost. 752 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like. 753 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 7: Y'all want to y'all want to play that on her 754 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 7: late night one day because she would be like her 755 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 7: and maybe her sister, like real late night and movies 756 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 7: that you probably would not go see. You know what 757 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 7: I'm saying. We work for independent theater, like you already 758 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 7: don't have the Blockbusters, and so I think don would 759 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 7: kind of creep in there late so she, you know, 760 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 7: she could just enjoy the movie or whatever. But like 761 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 7: you know, that's that's when we kind of started really 762 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 7: like chopping it up, and like, you know, I saw 763 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 7: her as like just a real like a real person, 764 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 7: a real gig for lack. 765 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 5: Of better wedding. 766 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 4: I'm curious about like like like how the scheduling works, 767 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 4: Like what they ramp it up when there was like 768 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 4: a big game on schedule, like if it was ukon 769 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: week or something like, did you know you would need 770 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: to be on call and you would be there more 771 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 4: than if it was you know, just you know, like 772 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 4: playing you know, a conference game or something like that. 773 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 7: So they really treated it like like they they really 774 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 7: respected that you had other shit going on. But at 775 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 7: the same time, like the more you show up, the 776 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 7: more engaged they're going to be with you. It's like 777 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 7: with anything, like you get you get out of it 778 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 7: what you put into it. But you know, like like 779 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 7: there would be What I remember is if there was 780 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 7: a game on Saturday. On Friday, you're practicing in colonial 781 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 7: like so you're getting the field, like you're practicing in 782 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 7: the arena that they play in, So you're getting the 783 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 7: field for like how is how it's going to be 784 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 7: out there? And as a practice player, you you're out there, 785 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 7: you're like, damn, like it's an empty stadium. I had 786 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 7: been there before for high school, but it'd be like 787 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 7: people out there. But when you're in there and it's 788 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 7: empty and you see all that space. I don't know 789 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 7: what it is, but like a bunch of space behind 790 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 7: the backboard just kind of changes how you see the 791 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 7: court and that's she kind of like you look up 792 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 7: at it, you kind of get the chills. 793 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 5: Running down your back or whatever. 794 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 7: And I think that kind of ramps it up a 795 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 7: little bit where you like, damn, like some real shit 796 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 7: goes on this ninety four feet not here. 797 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: You know, that's fucking perfect, Johnny question. 798 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 5: That's all the questions I had. 799 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, Torres, thank you for jumping on with us. Man, 800 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: this is some great insight. 801 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay. 802 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: I'm very happy that Don Staley beating Gino feels like 803 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: a moment that we needed as a country. So I'm 804 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: you know, Gino, that's the only Italian I don't. 805 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 7: I don't know why and when I started rooting against him, 806 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 7: but for as long as I can remember, I've never 807 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 7: wanted him to win, so I started. 808 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 2: You know, in women's basketball, there's a couple of divisions, bro, 809 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 2: and like one of them, and I've covered women's basketball 810 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 2: for the whole time I've been a sports writer. There's 811 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:16,720 Speaker 2: a division between people who recruit straight athletes versus gay athletes. 812 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: There is a division between male coaches and female coaches. 813 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: It's kind of a division sometimes between straight coaches and 814 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 2: gay coaches. And Gino is just one of those dudes 815 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 2: who was on the other end of every one of 816 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: the divisions of the kind of people and coaches that 817 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: we covered, you know what I mean. He loves recruiting 818 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: a straight, blonde girl out of a rich family. He 819 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 2: loves that ship. And when Pat Summit, who's one of 820 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: my all time idols up there with Billy Jean King, 821 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 2: said I have no respect for Gino and he knows 822 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 2: what he did, I was like, all right, cool, I 823 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 2: don't need. 824 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: To fuck with this dude forever, so I knew that. 825 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: Say less Pat. 826 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 4: Anyway, all right, Torres, man, thanks for hopping on his pot. 827 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: Is all you do is talk, I hear there's a 828 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: couple of episodes of John talking about stuff Tyler and 829 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: I aren't. 830 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 3: Cool enough to talk. 831 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 5: To talk about it like the last you don't give 832 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 5: a funk about my little weird shit that I care about. 833 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 7: Hey, but for real, we talk. We talk about any man. 834 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 5: Talking about summer, working out plans and ship bro alright, man, all. 835 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 2: Right, our thanks to Torres for hopping on with us. 836 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,359 Speaker 2: That's all the time. We got no no, no time 837 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 2: to get to this and. 838 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: That this week. Sorry, uh, we'll be. 839 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 2: Back on We'll be back on Monday with more this 840 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: and that, plus some NBA Playoffs stuff. Very excited to 841 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: have an NBA Playoffs look forward to where I just 842 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 2: have zero stresses about the Lakers and. 843 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 5: I won't have these weak ass transition lenses context, mat. 844 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 5: I want to be out here looking like a fake 845 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 5: cool nigga. You know what I'm saying. 846 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 3: John Lennon Nichols on the podcast today. 847 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 5: Is I hate this ship right by a window on 848 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 5: my seat. I'm inside, bro? Why am I? Why do 849 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 5: I have sunk glasses on? Why are they transitioning? I'm indoors. 850 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: John's been spreaking too much opium. He's gotta have his 851 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: He's gotta have his tints on. 852 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 5: Johnny with the tints. 853 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 3: All right, that's enough, bro, all right, see y'all on Monday. 854 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 5: Bye bye, h