1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Full Circle is an iheartwoman's sports production in partnership with 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: What's good, y'all, Welcome back to another episode of the 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: Full Circle Podcast. My name is Mariah Rose and I'm 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: here with none other than the Birthday bat is Lexi Heger. 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: Is this my birthday? 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: I feel like not really a real adult because I 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: was like, we have to do this today. 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: Like I've had a job. I'd be like, can I 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: stay home? It's my birthday. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 3: I just want to be with myself and enjoy my birthday. 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: But that's not how life works. So here we are 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: recording on this beautiful Monday for you guys on my birthday. 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm thirty one. 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, girl, and a beautiful thing to be black. Wow, 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 4: you look like you're in your twenties. 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: A man yesterday told me that he asked me if 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: I was an nineteen, which I was like, all about that. 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 4: No, you could pass. 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: If you throw on your duke uniform right now, you 22 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: could pass. 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: And I'm not pleasing. I appreciate that. 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, today to give you a little bit of 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: a hot topic as a play has been about the 26 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: coaching and the WNBA. So today we're just gonna we're 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: really the whole episode. What's going on with the coaches 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: in the w the new hires. Don't introduce them to 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: y'all if you are not familiar with some of the 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: new coaches that. 31 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: Have been hired. There's still one vacancy for the New 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: York Liberty. They have yet to hire a head coach, 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: but we'll get into that a little bit later. 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:49,919 Speaker 1: So really want to start, well, I guess we should Okay, 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: before we dive in, I think we should get into 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: your reaction to your new coach in Seattle, because when 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: I saw that, I wanted to talk to you about it. 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: But how are you feeling? What do you think is 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: going to be different? And introduce us to. 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: So I had I had no idea who they were 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: going to hire. So before we start, like, I had 42 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 3: no input in this, I had no conversation. All I 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 3: knew is that they were going to make a hire 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: before the end of the month, which is what they did. 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: She was an assistant with the. 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: Liberty, and prior to that, she was on the Memphis 47 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: Grizzlies coaching stuff, and for me, that makes me excited 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: because y'all know, I'm like an NBA junkie, and I 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: think as far as coaching and analytics and player development, 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: I think the NBA is way ahead of us, unfortunately 51 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: because they just have more resources than we've ever had 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: and we're getting there. 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: But the fact that we're now attracting NBA coaches to 54 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: the w I think that's really good for us. So 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: I haven't had a chance to talk to her yet, 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: but our GM she reached out to me when the 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: news broke and she said that she's really excited for 58 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: me to speak with her and meet her eventually. Yeah, so, 59 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: like I don't really know much about her as far 60 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: as like who she is personally, but like her resume 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: is super impressive. 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: She was a head coach at MIT. 63 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: So hopefully you know, she can appreciate the fact that 64 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: I went to the school like Duke because she. 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,559 Speaker 2: Was at MIT. Not saying that we're at MIT's level. 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: But you can appreciate like the education, you know, background 67 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: between the both of us. 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: Smart girls. 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 2: So I'm really excited. Also excited because. 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: It is a woman, a woman of color, so you 71 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: know that's also been a really big topic of conversation. 72 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: Around the W is why we don't have, you know, 73 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: more women of color in head coaching positions. 74 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: So the fact that we were able to hire one 75 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: is definitely super special. Yeah, sorry, y'all, we had some 76 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: audio issues, so that's why I sounded probably like a whisper. 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 5: Did it sound like Mariah Damn? Near? 78 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 3: I was so yeah, sorry guys, but yeah, where we hire, 79 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: very excited And yeah, again, it's very interesting hiring a 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: coach when any of these coaches, when you don't really 81 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: know who's going to be on your team. That goes 82 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: for like all of the new coaches outside of Dallas, 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: who would probably will keep that young group together hopefully 84 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 3: I would like them to, but you know it's on 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: my team. Outside of Dallas, every team that hired a 86 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: new coach is either an expansion team or just has 87 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: a team full of restricted free agents. So I think 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: it's going to be cool seeing these new coaches come in. 89 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 5: Basically they get to build a team like that's not 90 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 5: a thing. 91 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: Usually when you get hired, you have to like inherit 92 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: what you got and deal with what you got, and 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: then you make the changes like over time, they get 94 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 3: to come into these head coaching positions with like a 95 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: blank slate. And that's like I said last week about 96 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: the everybody being a free agent like that, that's never 97 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: happened before. I keep telling y'all that WNBA is like 98 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: hard resetting right now. If I was, this would be 99 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: like the optimal time to become a head coach for me. 100 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: I get to hand pick my team top to bottom. 101 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: Yet that's really that's really good, and especially because we 102 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: have like from research, like you guys are in the 103 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: middle of a mini rebuild coming off of last season 104 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: and going into next season. But every team is. 105 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: Of a mini rebuild right now, so it really depends, 106 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: like yeah, it really depends on what direction teams want 107 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: to go. 108 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: I also want to add that she she's the first 109 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: Indian Indian American female head coach in the w NBA. 110 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: So I knew what you were saying, that she's a 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: woman color. I was like, there's something historic about that, 112 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: but that is what that is. 113 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: So congratulation. 114 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: I'm so excited, and I also I'm really excited who 115 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: she's going to bring in as her staff. Honestly, and 116 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: I'm saying this like I do want to be in 117 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: Seattle guys like I love my teammates, like I love 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: playing with dom Like dom is the future of the 119 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: status story, Like that's just point blank period. 120 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: Domin is the future. 121 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: And I really really enjoyed playing basketball with Dominique, So 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: if it was up to me, like that's where I 123 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 3: want to be. I want to be there for her growth. 124 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: I want to help her become super dominant in the W. 125 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: So I am speaking about this coach and this coaching 126 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: staff from a perspective of me possibly being in Seattle, 127 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: Like I'm not going to act like I'm like, oh, 128 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: I could be anywhere, Like I know where I want 129 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: to be, And sometimes you just kinda it's hard to 130 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: prepare for every off season. 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 5: Like not knowing. 132 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: So you know, I'm just gonna prepare like I'll be 133 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: in Seattle and be really excited about that hire. But 134 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: I have no idea what direction she's going to go 135 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: in as far as her staff, play development, assistant coaches, 136 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 3: all of these things. 137 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 5: So I think that. 138 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: For me, I really enjoy playing with younger players as well, 139 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: and I do. Sometimes I feel like I get traded 140 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: like I'm a younger player because just I've just been 141 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: in and out and like I haven't really had a 142 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 3: moment to be like one of those like big name vets. 143 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: So I kind of get grouped with like the young players, 144 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: especially this past season. 145 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 5: But for me, it's great, it's it's a great experience. 146 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: I think that this season in particular tested my leadership 147 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: and my maturity as far as you know, having so 148 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: many young players looking at me like dang, Like I 149 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 3: know she's not happy with what's going on, but like, 150 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 3: how is she gonna continue to act like a pro 151 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: and be a pro? So if we're in if we're 152 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: in rebuild mode, I'm I'm I'm all in on that. 153 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: Like I think that could be a fun opportunity for me. 154 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: I think it could be a fun opportunity for us. 155 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: But like we said, like she has hundreds hundreds of 156 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: players to choose from, so to hand pick this this team, 157 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: so it's gonna be interesting. 158 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Also, I read this she came from working with the 159 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: Liberty and a lot of people thought that she was 160 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: going to coach them. I'm curious. 161 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: I don't understand what's going on with that coaching job. 162 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you really think of have any 163 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: opinions or thoughts, but that it's crazy to me. 164 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I think every team it's going 165 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: to be interesting to see what the direction they go in. 166 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: But because they've won just two years ago, Like, are 167 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: they going to try and keep that group together and 168 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: try one another one or is everyone going to go 169 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: their separate ways and try and win on their own. 170 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: And again, I had no input into this coaching higher. 171 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: I wonder if any of the players over there are 172 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: having any type of conversations or input about who they're 173 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 3: bringing in. 174 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: I don't know. 175 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: I mean the GM of the Liberty, he was very 176 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: adamant of putting Sabrina in situations to be successful and 177 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: efficient and back to her level of play from two 178 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: seasons ago. Not that she had a bad season this year, 179 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: but as far as like her shooting percentages, it was 180 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 3: something that we weren't used to seeing. And I think 181 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: they're going to bring in a coach that's going to 182 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: prioritize outside shooting and Sabrina, and I. 183 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 5: Don't know who that's going to be. I have no idea. 184 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: The fact that they haven't hired anybody yet is actually 185 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: kind of crazy. The fact that Sandy got fired was 186 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: also crazy. So I think everybody's just sitting waiting to 187 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: see what the liberty do. 188 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: But I have I have no idea. I haven't heard 189 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 5: anything about it. 190 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: Well before we get to this next job. 191 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm curious from your perspective being a WNBA player, I 192 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,239 Speaker 1: know in the NBA, typically when there's a coaching situation, 193 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: whether it's the coach got fired and they're looking for 194 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: a new coach or whatever the case may be, star 195 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: player is always star player, star player, star player? 196 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: What do they want? Who are they looking at? Joannis 197 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: in Milwaukee? 198 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: They're constantly being like, oh, he's like gunstantly switching coaches 199 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: and he's handpicking this guy and he doesn't like that guy. 200 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: Is that similar in the W or the gms? 201 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: The front office asking their star, Hey, what do you 202 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: think based on what you now? 203 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: I honestly, I honestly have no idea. Honestly have no idea. 204 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: I do know like in LA, and I'm not saying 205 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: that I was a star, but anyway. 206 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: Obviously I wasn't. 207 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: But in our exit meetings, you know, we have our conversations, 208 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 3: and I straight up was like, I would really appreciate 209 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: for you guys to not fire Kurt, like and I 210 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: wasn't the only player who said that and they fired 211 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: him anyway. So I think that they do value our 212 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: opinions to a point, but like as far as like 213 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: actual decision making, I wouldn't know anything about that because 214 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: no one has ever had really valued my opinion that much. 215 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 5: To where affected or influenced the real decision like that. 216 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: And also you don't see like coaches getting fired so 217 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: frequently like they do in the NBA, Like like I 218 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: said last week, like coaches don't like getting fired mid season, 219 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: like that's not a thing. Having three four coaches with 220 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: one disgruntled star, like that's not a thing in the 221 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: w NBA. So yeah, I don't I don't really for now, right, 222 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: Like That's what I'm saying, Like everything could be so 223 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: different now, and I'm like really excited about it, but 224 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm also like, are we ready for this, this dramatic change, 225 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: because I mean you can see it, like the way 226 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: the coverages, the fans, the conversation surrounding the league, like 227 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: everything is just magnified. 228 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 5: And I just want. 229 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: Us as a league, as as players to be prepared 230 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: for all of that because with you know, money and 231 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: influence and attention like that comes with a lot of 232 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 3: other stuff that might catch some people off guard, But 233 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we're. 234 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 5: All we're all grown, so I don't think it's going 235 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 5: to be that. 236 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: I'm also curious with the new CBA if or I 237 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: just see some correlation here between owners front offices making 238 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: these sort of decisions and not necessarily consoling their players, 239 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: which is not just what I've heard from you, but 240 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: a basis of what I've been hearing, and giving you 241 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: guys that revenue share slash more money would put them 242 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: in a position to where they do have to answer 243 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: to you more as players because you're you're investing, you're 244 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: being invested in more as part of the league. And 245 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: if you're investing a certain share of your revenue and 246 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: you're a star player just alone, not even mentioning the 247 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: rest of the roster, and you fire a coach they 248 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: really love, or you hire a coach they really don't 249 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: want and they're unhappy, that becomes a much bigger issue. 250 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 4: So I'm curious to see with the new CBA. 251 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: And if you guys do get that revenue share, which 252 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: I think you will and. 253 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 4: I'm hoping you do that. If that happens. 254 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, maybe it will be more of a 255 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: coaching carousel because the star player will have more. 256 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: Of that, I think. 257 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: And it's so interesting that you bring up that point, 258 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: because I do feel like it is. 259 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 5: A power struggle happening right now. 260 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: Like I feel like for so many years, we've just 261 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 3: been like a ounce, a mini tiny blip of part 262 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: of the WNBA ecosystem, which is crazy because the WNBA 263 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: wouldn't exist with all the players that play in it. 264 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: And we've just been like just buried under all of 265 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: this money and you lose money, and no one wants 266 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 3: to see y'all. No one wants to watch y'all. Y'all 267 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: aren't marketable, y'all aren't this, y'all aren't that. And finally 268 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: here we are all of those things being disproven one 269 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 3: by one, and the league is still like, no, we 270 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: still want y'all to be at this tiny percentage of everything, 271 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: and it's extremely frustrating because. 272 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: They're not budgeting on it. They're really not. 273 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 3: And it's every meeting that we have with the players 274 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: Association and every meeting that we have, more players are 275 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 3: hopping on because I think it like it's the deadline 276 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: is in four days, so like we're not getting to 277 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 3: an agreement in four days. But more players are like, 278 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: oh this, yeah, this might really like this is not good, 279 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 3: And I think the momentum is in our favor. I 280 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 3: think we are building more leverage. I think that we're 281 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 3: all in a united front. And I remember our last 282 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: CBA negotiations was like it was not like this, So 283 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: I mean it's good for us because I think we 284 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: do have a lot of people on our side, a 285 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: lot of people supporting us. A lot of people are 286 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: now really are not being as dense about it, like 287 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 3: you still have like the random trolls who are like. 288 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 5: Your league doesn't make any money, dah da da dah. 289 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 3: But I really do feel like now people are really 290 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: when you get into the numbers and all the money 291 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: that is about to be inserted into the league with that, 292 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: especially with the media rights deal, I think now that 293 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: people are now really just thinking about that in totality. 294 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 3: I think more people are starting to understand like, oh yeah, no, 295 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: they're being really underpaid. And again we're not trying to 296 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: get paid these same amounts of money. It's percentages, guys, 297 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: piece of the pie, Like that's all we want, and 298 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: I think. 299 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 5: They're budget a little bit, but like that revenue. 300 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: Sharing, like it's just they're not coming up off that, 301 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: and it's been extremely It's so crazy. 302 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: And the funny thing is it's not a salary number 303 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: that you guys are asking for, where it's like I 304 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: want to get paid this, I want to get paid 305 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: what NBA players are getting paid. 306 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: It's a revenue share. It's a percentage, which I. 307 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Find interesting because I always hear WNBA players reiterating that 308 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: you guys don't want to get paid exactly what they're 309 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: getting paid. You want to get paid your fair share, 310 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: just like they're getting paid their fair share. So why 311 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: if it's possible with the NBA, with the guys to 312 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: give them the percentage that they deserve with the WNBA, 313 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: what's the excuse? 314 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 5: Is it? 315 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: Like because the percentage is smaller, because that doesn't really 316 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: apply because the percentage, So no matter what the number is, 317 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: the percentage, you know what I'm saying, It correlates like 318 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: if our if our revenue smaller, our percentage. 319 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: Will be smaller. 320 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: So does that what are they trying to say? Y'all 321 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: are worth less than them? And a percentage that's exactly 322 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: what they're saying. That's exactly what they're saying. 323 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 3: And I mean, I think our makeup financially is definitely 324 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: a little bit is way more complex than the NBA 325 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: because you know, we have owners. We have owners like 326 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: you know, Vegas and New York have like their owners, 327 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 3: and we have like ownership groups, and you still have 328 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: teams that are owned by the NBA owners. So it's 329 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: like there's so many different, like different owners with different 330 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: mentalities about their team that they own and their expectations 331 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: of the team that they're there that they own. And 332 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: I feel that's where the issue really is. Like we 333 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: always see like everyone is just putting their fingers, oh Kathy, 334 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: this Kathy, that Kathy that it's the owners of the teams. 335 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 3: That's who she's talking to. That's who she is the 336 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: figurehead for, is the owners. So you know, our owners, 337 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: they I mean they they have told us, you know, 338 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: and as many words as they could that you know, 339 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: we're we're we're advocating for you guys at these conversations, 340 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 3: like they didn't flat out say, oh, we're asking for this, 341 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: this this, but they told us like yeah, no, we 342 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: are on the right side of this. When it comes 343 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: to ownership, and I believe them and our Seattle Storm owners, 344 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're amazing, they're great, But then you 345 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: probably have like some other owners where are like, no, 346 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to like, this is not like this 347 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: is my little tax rite off, this is my little whatever, 348 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: this is my little I don't care about this. 349 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 5: What do you own? Then? What do you want to team? Exactly? 350 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: So I just feel like I wish I could be 351 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: a fly on the wall in these meetings with the 352 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 3: owners and to see like what they're talking about, where 353 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: their disagreements are, where their issues are with the revenue sharing, 354 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 3: Like I would love to know what those conversations are like, 355 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 3: because I feel like from what you know owners, the 356 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 3: Vegas owners are saying what the Liberty owners do and 357 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: say our owners do and say, you know, they feel 358 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: very strongly about advocating for the players investing in their players. 359 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: So I'm like, so obviously there's some owners out there 360 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: that are that feel the opposite, and. 361 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 5: I want to know which owners they are. 362 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 4: But we and we'll never never in public, I'm never 363 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 4: going to know. 364 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: We only hear from the ones, so we only hear 365 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: from like a Mark Davis. 366 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, I'll make her the highest mad 367 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 4: coach of the w tomorrow or whatever. 368 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: Like we only hear from those coaches, but speak or 369 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: from those owners speaking of coaches. 370 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 4: So let's move on to we just. 371 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: Mentioned Sandy getting fired and have such a shock from 372 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: the Liberty while she is moving on to start her 373 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: own thing in Toronto, which is sick. She's going to 374 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: be the head coach of the Toronto Tempo LEXI what 375 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: is your reaction to that? 376 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: I was honestly a little surprised because I did feel 377 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 3: like the league was, you. 378 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 5: Know, kind of done. 379 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: I don't like saying recycling because that sounds kind of rude, 380 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 3: but I felt like, you know, they were just trying 381 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: to continue to bring new faces into the league. But 382 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: she's a proven winner WNBA champion, She's the head coach 383 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: of the Australian national team that always does really well 384 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 3: in the Olympics and all of their events overseas. So 385 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: I think, I mean, it's a good fit, especially in Toronto. 386 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: I think we're going to see another you know, Valkyrie's 387 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: situation as far as foreign talent coming from Europe coming, 388 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: Maybe she'll bring some more of her Australian players over 389 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: because there's a lot of really good basketball players in 390 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: Australia that I'm sure none of you guys know anything about. 391 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see what she does with that team. 392 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: I think she has had her fair share of superstars. 393 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 3: You know, she's been very blessed with her rosters throughout 394 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 3: her WVa coaching career. You know, she got to coach Diana, 395 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 3: she got to coach BG, she got to coach Laurna 396 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: Jackson in Australia. In here, she got to coach Stewie 397 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 3: JJ Sabrina. Like she's coach the best of the best. 398 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: So I wonder if she's gonna continue to lean on 399 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: that what she knows, you know, having these mega stars 400 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: in the w and you know, continuing to be successful, 401 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: or she's gonna go, you know, all in on new 402 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 3: faces like the Valkyries did. So it's gonna be really 403 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: interesting to see what she does with that roster. I'm 404 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: really excited for the Toronto team. I'm really excited to 405 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: play in Toronto. I'm excited to maybe Drake pull up 406 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: to a game. I was just a say I would 407 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: love that. But I think she's gonna do you. 408 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: Already know Drake? I know, I can promise you, Drake. 409 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 4: Is that a pull up to that? 410 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: Are you? 411 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 4: That's the those Drake. 412 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: First of all, he hasn't even come to any since 413 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 3: Skyler first got in the league. 414 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure. 415 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 4: We only really see Drake and the on the men's 416 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 4: side at Raptors games. 417 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: Like since old Drake, since take care of Drake, we 418 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: don't really see him out their sporting events. 419 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: We don't really see him at all. I know this, 420 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: we're not talking about Drake right now, but like now 421 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 3: that I'm thinking about it, we don't really see. 422 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 5: Him at all ever anymore. 423 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: But when when we do see him, it's. 424 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 5: A Raptors game, being I'm. 425 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: Not I could so see him going to a tempo 426 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: game that sounds like him. 427 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: If he doesn't, I'll be really disappointing me too. And 428 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: it takes a lot for me to be disappointed in. 429 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 5: Drake, a lot, a lot, a lot a lot. 430 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: But if he doesn't, personal if he doesn't show up 431 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: to one tempo game, I'm gonna have beef. 432 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 5: We're gonna have beef. 433 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I'm sure he will. 434 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: He wanted he wanted to start a w NBA team 435 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: and Toronto. Like before, people were it. 436 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: Was cool to be talking about the w So hopefully 437 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: he does us Drake apologists. 438 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: But I do think my reaction for Sandy is it 439 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: will be interesting to see the criticism of her. 440 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: It's so funny how I always. 441 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: Get to be a bad cop because I'm not on 442 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: the w So it. 443 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 4: Will be interesting to see. The fan reaction to her 444 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 4: firing was very much. 445 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: Ooh shocking, But also what can she do when she's 446 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: not coaching stars like the ones you just mentioned, And 447 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: so this feels to me like a bit of a 448 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: hail Mary in a sense and. 449 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 4: A bit of a Okay, let's see what you can do. 450 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: Like you said you thought you were done with the recycling, 451 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: this kind of feels like, if you mess this up, 452 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: this is kind of w BA. Yeah, So I would 453 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: be interested to see she has an opportunity to get 454 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: a lot of those stars out there to Toronto, especially 455 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: with it being a new team team and the drake 456 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: of it all and everything. We were just saying, it'll 457 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 1: be a great franchise with a lot of fans. You 458 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: have a whole country behind you, Yeah, and they love 459 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: women's basketball there. 460 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. If you remember when the w did 461 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 4: the game that were you playing that I was. 462 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 5: I was in attendance. 463 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, okay, you. 464 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: Know I could have swarm. 465 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 4: I remember talking about this one. 466 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I played. When I was on the Sparks. 467 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: We had a preseason game, and then this past year 468 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 3: during this we had a regular season game. 469 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 5: So I've been to both. 470 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: I've been to two WNBA Canada games and they were 471 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: both super fun packed arena, very exciting. So I think 472 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 3: Toronto is gonna be super lit. 473 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 5: I don't know. 474 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. Valkyrie said the set the bar very 475 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: high for expansion team fandom. 476 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,719 Speaker 4: I think Toronto. I think it's a whole country with 477 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: only one team. 478 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 5: That is true. 479 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: But again, like the Valkyrie, they they said this that 480 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: bars high, that bars high. 481 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 5: Honey. 482 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: The other day I peeped into the World Series. 483 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: Don't worry, ladies, I know this. This is relevant. 484 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: This is relevant my ww fans. So the other day 485 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: I peeked into a World Series game. Baseball to Toronto 486 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: is in it, and I was like, oh my god, 487 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: the fans were they stood up? 488 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 4: Do you don't know how baseball game is? 489 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: Even the people in the front row even the people 490 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: in the front row right behind the picture were standing up. 491 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: They did not sit down the whole they went time 492 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: and yeah they won. And my boyfriend was like, it's 493 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: because they have a whole country behind them, like they 494 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: really like they the Toronto Blue Jays fans, like they 495 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: do not play. 496 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 4: It's gonna be the same thing. 497 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 5: I'm telling you. 498 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I'm with you. Then Okay, shout out to 499 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: the Toronto Tempo. Sandy, I wish you're the best girl, 500 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: because you are. She is a great she's a good coach. 501 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: But I do think this season tested her abilities a 502 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 3: bit as far as is being able to coach without 503 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: her megastars. 504 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: So I'm very interested to see if she continues. 505 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: To lean into her megastar approach or if she's like, 506 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: you know, I'm a teacher. 507 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna show y'all I can coach. 508 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're gonna get some maybe one megastar or 509 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 3: maybe a bunch of regular stars and soames, well. 510 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 4: I'll tell you one thing. 511 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing if there was a coach 512 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: and again something I can tell like again, if there 513 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: was a coach based on being on social that y'all 514 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: wanted to go. 515 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 4: It was in Dallas. I mean, I felt so bad 516 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: for him. The memes were crazy. 517 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 5: The fan was nicey, it was nice. I've never seen 518 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 5: that before. 519 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: And I know, and I know Chris because he was 520 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 3: with me in Connecticut and he was with me in 521 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: LA for a little bit. 522 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 5: He's such a sweet man. 523 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: Oh and I know, like that was so hard for him, 524 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 3: Like he's literally the sweetest man. But again it made 525 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: me sad. And I'm like, it's okay, Like, yeah, he 526 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 3: was he a good coach. Not really, that's fine. That 527 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: was very obvious, but like the things that people were saying, 528 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 3: how everyone was acting like it was so crazy, like 529 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: it was it was nuts. And I actually was very 530 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 3: surprised that he got fired. I really was very shocked 531 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: that he got fired. But like, there wasn't very many 532 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: There wasn't very many reasons why he shouldn't. 533 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 5: Have gotten fired. But first year, why drag it on? Yeah, 534 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: I know, it was just yeah, it was he got. 535 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: The Darwin Ham treatment. 536 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: You said, you've never seen that before, not in the 537 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: W but yes, they I'm telling you, y'all getting into 538 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: the man. 539 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: I'm like, and yeah, Chris, I don't know if. 540 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 3: He'll see another I don't even know if he'll want 541 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: to coach be a head coach at the W ever, 542 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 3: again like I wouldn't either, but I think that I 543 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: was again very shocked that they pulled the pluck that quickly, 544 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: considering how young that's team was and they were dealing 545 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: with injuries and just a. 546 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 5: Lot of moving pieces. 547 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: I was just like, this season wrapped this season up 548 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: for them, because that was the trades, the getting Melyssa INDIJ, 549 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: Losingnlyssa INDJ five minutes later, like and then it was 550 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: just like as the season continued, it was just like 551 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 3: adding insult to injury, like Djene gets to Minnesota and 552 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: it starts ballid. Melyssa gets to Vegas starts balling, or 553 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: she was an Indian and she was a wins a 554 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: championship and then everyone looking at Dallas like what are 555 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: y'all doing over there? 556 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: So it doesn't help that they had the Pagebackers microscope 557 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: on them because her fans don't play all and they're 558 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: very used to seeing her win and thrive, and now 559 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: that she wasn't thriving, but they're using her win. 560 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: She's probably lost more games this summer than in her 561 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: entire life, right. 562 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: So I don't I don't think. I don't think the. 563 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: Pagebackers army was ready for that. Oh no, like there 564 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: were people. They have some fans that were not trying 565 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: to see them lose, which obviously we talk about this 566 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: all the time. The team with the number one pick 567 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: is never going to be the best team in the league. 568 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 1: I mean, Caitlin Clark was on some wizardy wizardry other stuff. 569 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 4: But it's very rare that they go. 570 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: To the playoffs like they got the number one pick 571 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: because they were back, you know. 572 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: But it was unfortunate. 573 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: But I will say, speaking of Page, Jose Fernandez, he he's. 574 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 4: Friends with Gino. Which tampering is there such say. 575 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 5: His coach tampering? Probably? I mean, I know Gino was 576 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 5: up in stores. 577 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 3: Like my poor Page we did y'all are not doing 578 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: my girl like this any longer. I'm sending in my 579 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: recommendation for a coach, and you're gonna hire them. 580 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 5: That's how that that's how that coach insurge went. 581 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: Gino wrote a letter to the Dallas Wings and he said, 582 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: here's his resume, Here's who's gonna coach Page. Here's what's 583 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: going to make Dallas great. Here you go and hire him. 584 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: And the resume said Gino Arima's homeboy. And that's all I. 585 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: Needed to know because one thing about you know he 586 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: does he does not play about Page. 587 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 5: He does not play about Page. 588 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: And the chance that uh Fudd could end up in 589 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: Dallas depending on how the lottery goes, how her season goes, like, 590 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: we might have a little Yukon link up down in Dallas. 591 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 3: Down in Dallas, I mean, low key, every team, every 592 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: team got like a mini Yukon linkup. It's actually insane. 593 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 3: If you go down the rosters, every team has like 594 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: two three Ukon players on it minimum, right, Like that's crazy. 595 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: If you come from Yukon, you're gonna be You're gonna 596 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 3: meet up with another Husky on your team at some 597 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: point in your life. But I think that that was 598 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: a great hire. I think his coaching style will translate 599 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: well to Pages playing style again, blank slate for the 600 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: most part on that team when it comes to veterans. 601 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: But I hope that they keep that young group together. 602 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: Who's a Page James Quinnerly Louisa Luisa, Yes, I'm Luisa. 603 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 3: I'm not say Page Paige. James and Luisa, Like, I 604 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: think those four, despite their record, had a really really 605 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: solid year as rookies, So I hope that they keep 606 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: those four or protect those four. We even get into that, like, okay, guys, 607 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, you have the free agents, right, and then 608 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: the teams choose to protect or not protect players from 609 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: the expansion Draft. So yeah, you might think that your 610 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: favorite players that are still on their rookie contracts are 611 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: locked in to the team that they're on, but if 612 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: they don't get protected by their team, they could get 613 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: scooped up by one of the new teams. So exactly, exactly, 614 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: So I think that it's going to be interesting hand 615 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: picking his players. He's he coached at USF South Florida, guys, 616 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: if you don't know, and he was like one of 617 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 3: the first college coaches to start bringing in European players. 618 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: And I remember because I played against USF pat Courney 619 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: Williams with the USF and I played against Courtney Williams 620 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: in college, and I USF was always real solid, but 621 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: they always had like a few European players that were 622 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: on the roster and really really good and always found 623 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: a lot of success at USF. So he was definitely 624 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 3: one of the first coaches to recruit overseas, so I 625 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: think he's going to probably do the same thing coming 626 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: here again. I think, guys, the European players are coming. 627 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: You know, they've taken over the NBA. I don't know 628 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 3: if they'll take over the WNBA, but I think we're 629 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: going to be seeing an influx of European players, especially 630 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: if these salaries go up. 631 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 5: That's been one of the biggest reasons why. 632 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: They don't come over here is because they don't make 633 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 3: You don't make enough money, especially as a rookie like 634 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: them leaving their home for that many years, missing out 635 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: on overseas money to make the low key contracts like 636 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 3: none of them are really trying to do that. So 637 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: I think when our salaries go up, we're going to 638 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: see like an enormous influx of European players, which makes 639 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: me excited. 640 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 5: Like I said, Duck Smoke, I'm ready for the Euros. 641 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 5: I'm ready for them. We ready for y'all. It's exciting. 642 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: It's really going to make the WNBA global sport. I 643 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: think that's our next step, like becoming more global. 644 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 5: That's how the NBA is. 645 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,719 Speaker 1: That's a huge that's a huge opportunity for the w 646 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: viewership wise as well because of that market for women's 647 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: basketball overseas, that tapping into those overseas fans would be 648 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: really incredible. My question about Jose Fernandez is do you 649 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: believe that college coaches their coaching style translates well into 650 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: the pros Because I know a lot of fans want 651 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: to see those those icons from college, like a Gena 652 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: or a Dawn coach. Professionally, how do you think that 653 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: their abilities as far as being a college coach translates 654 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: to being in the a system like OVERNBA. 655 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think because Kurt coached in college before 656 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 3: he came to the pros, and I think it really 657 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 3: depends on the person. 658 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 5: I think it depends on the coach. 659 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: I think the biggest difference between college and pros is 660 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: that you are coaching grown adults and not kids at 661 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: school and on a schedule, and you can't tell everybody 662 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: what to do all the time, and you do have 663 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: to be careful how you speak to this player and 664 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 3: how you speak to that player, because we're professionals, we're 665 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 3: all adults, and you don't just simply fall in line. 666 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: Like you do in college. 667 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: I've always thought that's been the biggest adjustment for college 668 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 3: coaches because basketball is basketball, and I think his style 669 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: of play is very creative, it's fast, it's innovative. I 670 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: think X's and O's wise, he's going to be fine. 671 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 3: But I think always it's just the communication and you know, 672 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: building trust and all that kind of stuff with a 673 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: bunch of grown ass people is not easy. 674 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: In any any job, that's not easy. 675 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: So I always think that's like the hardest part from 676 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: a college coach coming from you know, their universities where 677 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: they basically I mean, like I said, they're going to 678 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: be able to He's going to be able to like 679 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: handpick you know, some of the players that he brings. 680 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 3: So it is going to be a little bit similar 681 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: to college like when you're out recruiting and all that 682 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. So I think that will benefit him 683 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: as well as all the other new coaches that get 684 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 3: to basically him pick their teams now. 685 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 5: But I think he's going to be fine. 686 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: And then yeah, you mentioned his relationship he has with Gino, 687 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 3: So I think that, you know, I think he's probably 688 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: already connected with Page and you know, they're already probably 689 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: cooking some stuff up for next season. So I'm I mean, 690 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: I'm excited for Paige because we all want to see 691 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: Paige win. So watching her this season was definitely hard 692 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: for her fans, I'm sure, but it was hard for 693 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: you know, anybody who loves watching good basketball because she's 694 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 3: such a good player. So I hope that this is 695 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 3: a good move for her sake because she deserves a 696 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 3: lot of success in the W and the W is 697 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 3: better when Paige is hop and on TV, and you know, 698 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 3: everyone loves watching her play. So I'm excited for I'm 699 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 3: excited for Dallas, I'm excited for Page. 700 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think we'll be good. 701 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: The last one we're going to talk about is uh 702 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 1: the Portland fire. 703 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: Portland fire, they've been very quiet. They were very quiet 704 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: all summer. I was like a little concerned. I'm like, 705 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 3: is prob let's not gonna have a theme like what 706 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 3: is happening? And then boom, they just started making a 707 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: little bit of noise. 708 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on their new hire. 709 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: So my dad actually was familiar with with Alex Sarama. Sarama, 710 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, I have to get these pronunciations down. 711 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: But he also is coming from the NBA, which I 712 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: think is really great for us because of, you know, 713 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: the modern, fast paced play that we are heading towards, 714 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: and he's really big with analytics. 715 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 5: I feel like. 716 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 3: He is familiar with their GM and I think that 717 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 3: that higher. You know, a lot of people were like, 718 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: what who is this guy? He's in skill development? 719 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 5: Da da da. 720 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: Like I said, we are very behind when it comes 721 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 3: to skill development. So I think when it comes to 722 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 3: building an organization and a franchise from the ground up, 723 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: you can always lay your foundation on skill development. And 724 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: I think that's something that's going to be really interesting 725 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: about the Portland team, is how he's going to take 726 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 3: his thoughts and the way he thinks the game and 727 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: what he learned from being around the NBA, and how 728 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 3: he's going to infuse it into this new team. Because 729 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 3: it's a brand new team, they have no culture, they 730 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: have no anything. It's all on him, so there's no 731 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: there's really no like, no one can have any type 732 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: of critique for it. It's like there's nothing, nothing existed 733 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 3: before he got there. So I'm really interested to see 734 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: with someone that is skill development and analytic focused, hyper focused, 735 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 3: how they can transition into being a head coach and 736 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: with the new team in a new city with all 737 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 3: the new stuff. So I think it's going to be 738 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: really exciting. I've never been to Portland before, so excited 739 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: to explore a new city, even though I heard it's 740 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 3: just like Seattle, just. 741 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 5: Colder. 742 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never been to Seattle, but I would assume 743 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: it's pretty similar. I've been up there. But I will 744 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: say the one thing I was going to bring up 745 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: with all these these coaching hires, just to kind of 746 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: wrap this all up in a pretty little bow, is 747 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: it's interesting how when you become a head coach, a 748 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know that you are building a 749 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: whole new system, like you're kind of the headhun show 750 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: of the organization, outside of the front office ownership type 751 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: of standpoint, like fate player facing, you're creating that you're 752 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: bringing in your staff, You're bringing in a whole group. 753 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: So it's interesting to see, especially with these coaches that 754 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: are inheriting programs that don't exist Philly, Detroit, Toronto, the Valkyries, 755 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: like all these new teams coming in, how these coaches 756 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: are going to create a culture, because that is something 757 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: that a coach that's going to coach somewhere that's already 758 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: a team like the Wings. 759 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: Or the Liberty. 760 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: Those places already have fan bases, they already have culture. 761 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: Whereas the Valkyries, we saw them completely six women created 762 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: that there. I can't remember what they called their home 763 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: court advantage, like they had a special name for. 764 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: That, yes, yes, whatever, Like all that is new, so 765 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 4: very interesting, and I'm excited. 766 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 3: I'm excited too, And I feel like with these new 767 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: expansion teams, like I can't believe how many teams are 768 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 3: going to have, Like I never thought that I would 769 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 3: be a part of the WNBA with all of these 770 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 3: new teams and all of these cities, with all of 771 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 3: the support, Like every day, I'm always so amazed at 772 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 3: what the WBA has grown into over the last few years. 773 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: I think that every organization needs to really lock in 774 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 3: and focus on what their identity is going to be, 775 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 3: what their culture is going to be, how they're going 776 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: to engage with their fans, how they're going to like 777 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: everything is just bigger now. Everything needs to be more thoughtful, 778 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 3: Everything needs to be more. 779 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 5: Collaborative from the top down. 780 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 3: I again, already you already know how I feel about 781 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: some of the front offices in this league. I think 782 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 3: that now is the time where these front offices have 783 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 3: to take their product. The players that they're bringing in, 784 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: the contracts that they're giving way more serious than what 785 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 3: they had in the past. You know, you're building teams 786 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 3: to win championships. Winning teams bring in more money, you 787 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 3: get more fans. Like this is unfortunately, you know, turning 788 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 3: into a big, humongous business, and you know that is 789 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: good for us obviously, but it's still a sport that 790 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 3: we all love and grew up playing. And when it 791 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 3: becomes you know, big business, like a lot of things change, 792 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 3: but you have to still try and keep the main thing, 793 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 3: the main thing, which is winning basketball games. So I 794 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 3: do feel like with these new hires and we'll see 795 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 3: with you know, how they fill their staffs. I've always 796 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: thought that former players are better assistants in my opinion, 797 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: and I know a lot of people are, like a 798 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 3: lot more former players head coaches, Like I think they 799 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: are good head coaches as well. But when you're the 800 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: head coach, like you don't have the time to pour 801 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 3: into every single player all the time, like you do 802 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 3: have a little bit of time, like you make time 803 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 3: for anything that you want to make time for but 804 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,439 Speaker 3: there's so many responsibilities that the head coach has that's 805 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 3: outside of just coaching us. That's why these assistants these 806 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 3: benches are so important. I feel like the way that 807 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 3: the WNBA players are on these benches has been like 808 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 3: game changing. I feel like I think that's why Indiana 809 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 3: even was able to do the push that they were 810 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 3: able to have two former players on their bench. Like, 811 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 3: the best relationships I've always had growing up were with 812 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: my assistant coaches. Like not saying I didn't have a 813 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 3: good relationship my head coach, but the coaches that I 814 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 3: could talk to, the coaches that you watch film with, 815 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 3: the coaches you get in the gym with those, those 816 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 3: are the assistants. The best assistant coaching staff I had 817 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 3: was at Duke, Like those are my people, Like. 818 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 5: They changed my life. 819 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 3: I feel like when I was at Duke, the assistant 820 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 3: I mean, my head coach was amazing coach p like 821 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 3: love her down. But the relationship I've built with the 822 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 3: assistants like literally changed my life. And I feel like 823 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 3: that gets overlooked when people are like, why are more. 824 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 5: Former players being head coaches? 825 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 3: They absolutely should be at some point, but I think 826 00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 3: the relationship part, the development part, their experiences is whole value, 827 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 3: even when they're assistants or player development or whatever you know, 828 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 3: these former players are. 829 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 5: I think that. 830 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 3: Having them around but not having all the pressure and 831 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 3: criticism of being a head coach, I think that is 832 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 3: way better. But again, like a briand January, like I 833 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 3: would really I don't know if she's in the running 834 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 3: for the Liberty job, but if there is a former 835 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 3: player that is ready to be a head coach, I 836 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 3: would say it is Brian January. She coached with US 837 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 3: at AU. She was amazing, She's incredible. She was a 838 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 3: great player an even better person. So you know, if 839 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 3: there is a former player her or Christy Tolliver, you 840 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 3: know I was able to play with Christy in LA 841 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: and that you know, she's my favorite player growing up, 842 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 3: so that was just a dream come true for me. 843 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 3: So I mean, I think between KT and Brian like 844 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 3: those would be the two former players that I would 845 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 3: love to see become head coaches in the very very 846 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 3: near future. But I think what they're doing on these 847 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: benches is so valuable, and I think that they get 848 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 3: overlooked a little bit because they're just assistants. But I 849 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 3: think you know, the league is full of former players 850 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 3: on these benches and I think they do a really 851 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 3: good job. 852 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 5: So I think that's really important. 853 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 3: You know, when these coaches and these organizations are feeling 854 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 3: their staff if they want to, you know, give back 855 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 3: to the former players and have them involved. And you know, 856 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 3: we're trying with the CBA to you know, take care 857 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: of our retired players and former players. I think that 858 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 3: is a way that the league can do it outside 859 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 3: of just CBA stuff and pension and retirement and blah 860 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Allowing them to have a space to 861 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 3: give back to us poor back into the game. 862 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 5: And get paid for it. 863 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: You know, that's always that's always a bonus doing something 864 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 3: you love and getting back. 865 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 5: Yeah. 866 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: I really love what you said about the assistant coaches 867 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: because it's so true. I've been a victim to that 868 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: as well, like wondering why there were less former players coaching. 869 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: But it makes so much sense because even in my 870 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: experience playing high school sports, I look back and I'm like, 871 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: that makes a really good point and that it makes 872 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: a lot of sense because your head coach is kind 873 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: of like the principal at school. Where's your assistant coaches? 874 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: Are your teachers who you're actually you can like talk 875 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: about your coach with. Then you can be like, oh man, 876 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: the coach can be bad cop and they can be 877 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: good cop, and you can kind of all. 878 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 4: Everybody has a role. 879 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, same thing what we keep saying, like 880 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 3: we want we want our faves to be the commissioner. 881 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 5: You know, No, you know you don't. You want your 882 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 5: favors to be a head coach. 883 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: No, you don't, And you need to hate your head 884 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 1: coach sometimes sometimes I'm sorry, And that's why I don't 885 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: want to be a coach. 886 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 4: I cannot imagine waking up every day and being like. 887 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 5: They hate me today. I gotta make them run today, 888 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 5: like I just I've never wanted that for myself. 889 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 4: I'll love you when they're popping champagne in the locker room. 890 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 5: After the champion. 891 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 3: Speaking of championships, this is how we're gonna close out 892 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 3: the show. Out of all of these new expansion teams, 893 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: which team do you think will win a championship? 894 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 5: First? If if they do. 895 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 4: Okay, hard to say because. 896 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't know who's coaching all of them or who's 897 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: playing on all of them. 898 00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 4: I literally only know who's playing for that. 899 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 3: If you can pick one team that's going to when 900 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: just based on just off vibes, the cities based. 901 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: Off of vibes. I okay, this is the first thing 902 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: that popped on I had. I want to say, either 903 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: Toronto or. 904 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 3: Philly, Philly, what was the last? Oh, the Eagles, I'm 905 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 3: like one of the last. If Philly even when that's something. 906 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 5: A second ago, I'm going Valkyries. I'm going Valkyries. So yeah, 907 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 5: don't prove me wrong. Don't prove me wrong. 908 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 4: When when are we When is Philly going to be 909 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:37,959 Speaker 4: a team? 910 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: Hold on? 911 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 4: Hold on twenty twenty twenty thirty? 912 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 3: Girl? Oh oh yeah, Eve, when it's twenty twenty eight? 913 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 3: I mean no, because I mean five, it's five years. 914 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 3: I mean the Aces might win two more, you know, 915 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 3: I don't know what years the Joy twenty twenty nine. 916 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I never mind. If I'll say to Troy 917 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 4: just just despite some people. But but I'm gonna say. 918 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 5: Toronto, Toronto. Okay. 919 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 3: So we're gonna we're gonna look back on this in 920 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 3: a few years when Canada, Canada, this is for you, 921 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Okay, So we want new teams winning championships. 922 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 3: We would love new franchises to win championships, but we 923 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 3: want nothing but success for the WNBA as a whole. 924 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, if you guys yea and successful, Lexi guys, 925 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 3: please you know what next season? 926 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 5: Thirty first next season. 927 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: The first thing that we're accomplishing is getting my one 928 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 3: thousand points. We are like two busts away, like to 929 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 3: literally two baskets away. Yeah from a thousand first game, 930 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 3: first game. 931 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 5: I fucking oh shit. 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