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Speaker 2: The Sunday Hang with Playing Buck podcast starts now the

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Speaker 2: sharing this data from Steve Kornaki and I was just

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Speaker 2: laying it out. College educated white women they hate Trump.

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Speaker 2: They're the only group of white voters that hates Trump.

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Speaker 2: In fact, he has a positive review of everybody else.

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Speaker 2: And the difference between white men with no college degree

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Speaker 2: and white women with college degrees has probably never been

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Speaker 2: more expansive, huge difference. White women with college degrees hate Elon,

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Speaker 2: they hate Doge Uh, they hate the Republican Party, they

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Speaker 2: love Zolensky, and they also Buck love DEI. So, basically,

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Speaker 2: white women with college degrees as a group, I know

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Speaker 2: there are many white women with college degrees that are

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Speaker 2: listening to us right now, are divergent from every other

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Speaker 2: white person in America in a massive way. White men

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Speaker 2: with college degrees are not similar to white women with

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Speaker 2: college degrees, and certainly white women and men without college

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Speaker 2: degrees are not similar at all either. A bunch of

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Speaker 2: people want to weigh in and Let's start with Lois

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Speaker 2: in Raleigh, North Carolina. What do you think is to

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Speaker 2: explain this?

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Speaker 3: Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. I am a

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Speaker 3: college educated woman with a master's degree in education administration.

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Speaker 3: I worked until thirty nine, got married, and had my son.

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Speaker 3: I love Trump, And I think maybe some of these women,

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Speaker 3: because I know some are very angry. Maybe they're even

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Speaker 3: kind of intimidating and so are they kind of put

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Speaker 3: people off a little. I don't know, but that's been

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Speaker 3: my experience. But I loved and I'm a college educated

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, we know, we know there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of we know there are a lot of you out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. I mean when you say, did you have peers,

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Speaker 1: you know, women who were in your program, let's say

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Speaker 1: your master's program, Like, what what has their experience been?

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Speaker 1: Because you said, I think you got married at thirty nine,

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Speaker 1: you had a kid, you know, it all worked out

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Speaker 1: for you, right, But do you have a lot of

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Speaker 1: people from your master's program who maybe never were able

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Speaker 1: much time in the library or whatever. I'm curious what

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Speaker 1: your general conception or perception is.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess my perception is I felt they they

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Speaker 3: sort of gave this go away. I'm strong, I'm tough,

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Speaker 3: I'm not vulnerable that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: And do you think that was because they were told

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Speaker 1: that they should compete with men in the workplace in

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Speaker 1: a way that was unhealthy? I mean, what's your analysis

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Speaker 3: Oh, I think it's unhealthy because I wanted to be

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Speaker 3: married and have a child and be a college educated woman.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to have all of that, and I did.

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Speaker 3: I just had to wait.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I've got a good email here, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the call. By the way, with you, I can

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Speaker 2: mention my wife has double graduate degrees and voted for Trump.

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Speaker 2: So obviously there are a lot of people out there

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Speaker 1: But but again on the on the outlier thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg didn't finish college and is one of the

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Speaker 1: richest people on the planet. That doesn't mean that like

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Speaker 1: people shouldn't get an education, right like, you know, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't or that you shouldn't finish college if you think

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Speaker 2: The outlier typically is an outlier for a reason. Good

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Speaker 2: email here, from Katie. She says, howdy from San Antonio.

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Speaker 2: College educated Gigamaggie's means she's a tex A and M grad.

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Speaker 2: I'm a white woman here voted for Trump, and what

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in is why you think women, not what

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Speaker 2: you did, but why you think these numbers do reflect

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Speaker 2: the truth. There are a lot of people who disagree

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Speaker 2: with you. Here's her explanation. Many of my childhood friends

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Speaker 2: turned extremely liberal while in college. Then they moved into

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Speaker 2: It's like they fall all over each other to show

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Speaker 2: adopts the most pets from their local shelter. Their need

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Speaker 2: to fill morally superior is unmatched. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: really great email that actually makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, high five to who was the author of that one.

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Speaker 2: Vid Katie Gigamaggie's good luck to Texas, A and M

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Speaker 2: the way Texas A and M one of the exceptions,

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Speaker 2: mostly conservative school, especially compared to that Orange school in Austin,

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Speaker 2: taking a little bit of a shot at University of Texas.

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Speaker 2: But it is interesting that it's like for college educated women,

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Speaker 2: their social stature is a competition to see who can

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Speaker 1: Empathetic and may well drive it. I think that the

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Speaker 1: emotional blackmail that we are all put through in college

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Speaker 1: by the woke machinery is particularly effective on women. I

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Speaker 1: just think that, again, that doesn't mean that all women

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Speaker 1: women are more likely because they're more Look, can we

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Speaker 1: can speak about these things honestly, right? Women tend to

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Speaker 1: be more empathetic. Women tend to be more in touch

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Speaker 1: with their feelings, you know. In general, Okay, I need

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Speaker 1: some woman to call like I could bench press you

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Speaker 1: buck like I'm sure you can. But generally speaking, women

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Speaker 1: are more when full macho man Randy Savage.

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Speaker 2: That's the that's the lesbian woman from the Democrat Party

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Speaker 2: that picked Tim Walls as the man to appeal to.

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Speaker 1: You get what you get what I'm putting down. But

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Speaker 1: I think that women want to be and I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about college women in college or of that age. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they want to be empathetic. They want to be sympathetic,

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Speaker 1: they want to do what they can for other people,

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Speaker 1: and they are told that to be good people. To

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Speaker 1: be good people, you have to identify with these cousin

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Speaker 1: of Clay. A perfect example of this Zelenski. The college

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Speaker 1: educated women love little Zolenski. Give me more money. I'm

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Speaker 1: here for Donald Trump in my T shirt. Like, the

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Speaker 1: whole thing is bizarre when you think about this. Also,

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Speaker 1: what are these college educated women know about what it

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Speaker 1: are so all in on this Ukraine war situation. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying again we're speaking generalities here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: working class men are the ones who fight America's wars.

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Speaker 2: Rich Man's poor man's fight has been a phrase for

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Speaker 1: In the world it is, you know, eighteen year olds

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Speaker 1: from working class backgrounds, who are the ones signing up

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Speaker 1: fighting our wars. I don't think anybody would find this

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Speaker 1: a controversial statement. It is the truth. And it's interesting

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Speaker 1: that they like Trump the guy who's trying to end

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Speaker 1: the war, and white college educated women are the ones

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Speaker 1: who are like Slava Ukrainy, like fight till the very end.

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Speaker 1: The guys know that this stuff is nasty and you

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Speaker 1: want to end it as fast as possible. This is

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Speaker 1: not a video game.

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Speaker 2: Mary in San Marcos, Texas, what's your theory on what's

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Speaker 4: I think they're spoiled brats. I think they think they're enabled,

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Speaker 4: and they think that they're better, and they think that

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Speaker 4: they're going to do whatever they think they want to do.

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Speaker 4: They are using the female card. I'm in my sixties

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Speaker 4: that it took me a while to get my degree,

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Speaker 4: to pay it as we went. But I very much

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Speaker 4: earned my degree. I am a degree from Texas A

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Speaker 4: I retired after twenty five years. But before that, I

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Speaker 4: was a mechanic in an oil refinery. I was a

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Speaker 4: I worked my butt off. And these ladies that are

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Speaker 4: doing this, they couldn't be bothered by dirting their hands

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Speaker 4: you know, little Mistucci's doing what they want to do

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Speaker 4: because I'm a female and I can do this, and

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Speaker 4: you know you have to hire me because I'm entitled. No,

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Speaker 5: Thank you for the call. I love it, thank you

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Speaker 5: for the call.

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Speaker 2: I do think there's a generational divide here, right, because

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Speaker 2: a lot of women college graduates are recent women college graduates,

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Speaker 2: meaning in the last twenty or thirty years. As now

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Speaker 2: women get way more college degrees in question, for you, Buck,

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Speaker 2: are women, because of social media, far more likely to

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know about you.

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Speaker 1: But I love it really and Clay and I hear

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Speaker 1: experts on women. I just think it's kind of funny. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm just having I'm just having a go at you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you something, you know, I have I still have some

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Speaker 1: It's it's like hearing about people who are out there

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Speaker 2: And I got an older.

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Speaker 1: Brother who's who's a fantastic guy and a very lhm bachelor.

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Speaker 1: Great catch, just thrown it out there, great catch, Mason,

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Speaker 1: my older brother, and and he's still single. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of friends down here as well

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Speaker 1: who are all single guys. And Clay. The number of

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Speaker 1: women who think it's really appealing to tell guys that

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Speaker 1: their great life life aspiration is to travel is insane

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Speaker 1: to me. This is this is entirely a product of

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Speaker 1: Instagram culture and getting the likes. And I'm in tou

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Speaker 1: Loom and I'm in Barcelona, and I'm in all these places,

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Speaker 1: and all my friends think I'm living this great life.

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Speaker 1: Traveling is a thing you do once in a while

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Speaker 1: to do a reset from your actual life.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, sound like an Instagram influencer chick right now.

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Speaker 2: I kind of think they're right. I love to travel.

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Speaker 2: I want to go everywhere. That's what I want to do.

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Speaker 5: No, I want to just travel over the place you're.

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Speaker 2: Going to see me, like on the edge of a

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Speaker 2: cliff taking a selfie, like look at the sea in

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Speaker 1: We need doctor Laura. Where's doctor Laura. We need her

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Speaker 2: But I do think that first of all, I have

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Speaker 2: no idea what my friends say on social media, Like

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Speaker 2: I use social media.

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Speaker 1: If you were trying to find you found, you found

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Speaker 1: a great woman and built a beautiful family in a.

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Speaker 2: Real young world where you meet face to face like

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Speaker 1: never been this resigned to staying signal single. They are

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Speaker 1: responding to major demographic shifts, including huge and growing gender

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Speaker 1: gaps in economic and education attainment, and beliefs about what

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Speaker 1: a family should look like. What is going on and

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Speaker 1: how do we fix it?

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Speaker 8: Not enough fathers in the home raising sons to be

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Speaker 8: men of honor and courage and prince of And that's basically.

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Speaker 7: Again, the women have gone through the feminist.

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Speaker 8: Thing where men are the evil empire and all this

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Speaker 8: negativity toward masculinity.

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Speaker 7: It's all toxic. I think it's wonderful.

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Speaker 8: Give me a guy with the cowboy hat and boots,

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Speaker 8: and I pay attention because there's a sense that there's

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Speaker 8: a strength there. And women like to feel protected. That's

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Speaker 8: probably the number one thing women don't admit. They want

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Speaker 8: to feel protected, and that's why they like those silly

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Speaker 8: books where there's this ripped guy on the cover and

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Speaker 8: she's being carried you into safety. Why do they read

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Speaker 8: those things at such large amounts Because ultimately, as smart

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Speaker 8: and incompetent as we can be, we want to be protected.

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Speaker 8: And men have not been brought up to be that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Are you more of You've been doing this for fifty years,

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Speaker 2: and Buck just laid out a marriage is becoming less common.

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Speaker 2: A lot of men and are not presentent homes. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: the overall birth rate in many Western civilizations is collapsing.

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Speaker 2: Are you more or less optimistic about the future of

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Speaker 2: the family unit today than when you started? How would

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Speaker 2: you analyze the scope of relationship that you've seen over

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Speaker 2: fifty years.

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 8: No'm I was more optimistic than that. I am now

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Speaker 8: because there have been so many forces. We have, like

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Speaker 8: one or two generations now I think are lost. These

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Speaker 8: are young people who are not being brought up that

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Speaker 8: you finish school and you aim to be and do things,

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Speaker 8: and you make a family and you raise kids and

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Speaker 8: you have communities. And that was how I was brought up,

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Speaker 8: and it was all this optimism. Now you have throngs

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Speaker 8: of kids who have no idea where they can go

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Speaker 8: and what they can be, and so they get involved

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Speaker 8: in all of these cliques like non binary, and you know,

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Speaker 8: I belong now to a group of people who are

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Speaker 8: equally lost and don't have an identity and don't have

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Speaker 8: a direction and don't have a sense of self other

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Speaker 8: than I can.

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Speaker 7: Belong to this community.

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Speaker 8: It's like what we used to look at with groupies

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Speaker 8: with rock stars. This is what's happening. So I'm worried.

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Speaker 8: Be honest with you, I'm worried. But the one little

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Speaker 8: piece of optimism I have is I'm still here.

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Speaker 7: People are still calling.

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Speaker 8: Somebody wants the help to pull it back together again

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Speaker 8: and make life meaningful in something you can feel comfortable

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Speaker 8: and safe with and productive and loving and receive all

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Speaker 8: of that. So as long as I still get that response,

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Speaker 8: I keep my optimism.

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Speaker 2: Up, Doctor Warret, that's a great line. You just laid

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Speaker 2: out some of the challenges. How much do you think

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Speaker 2: it has to do with kids getting phones too young?

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Speaker 2: What advice would you give parents out there? My wife

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Speaker 2: asked a question about adolescence, but what advice would you

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Speaker 2: give to pairs? It's about social media and about what

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Speaker 2: they allow their kids to be exposed to, particularly on

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Speaker 2: the Internet.

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Speaker 8: Well, everybody tells me I'm insane to think. You know,

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Speaker 8: you can push up against a tsunami, but it takes

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Speaker 8: just everybody lining up. I tell people that they're irresponsible

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Speaker 8: parents if they give smartphones to their kids, any minor

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Speaker 8: child period. Get them a flip phone that takes calls.

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Speaker 7: That's it. No texting, no Internet.

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Speaker 8: And instead of spending one's time with screens, how about

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Speaker 8: we actually have families that do stuff together. I mean,

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Speaker 8: my kid was talk about a screen though. We would

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Speaker 8: watch Law and Order as a whole family, and then

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Speaker 8: we would sit here and we would go I think

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Speaker 8: he did it.

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Speaker 7: No, I think she did it.

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Speaker 8: And so it was all of this thinking through using

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Speaker 8: pieces of information. And I just read today that our

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Speaker 8: children are really suffering the inability to have fine motor

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Speaker 8: skills because they're not playing crayons, they're not playing with scissors,

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Speaker 8: they're just sitting there like that. And so we're actually

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Speaker 8: losing physicality.

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Speaker 5: I mean, is that not shocking, it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And when you think about all the influences that are

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Speaker 1: on kids these days and what they're being told and

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Speaker 1: how I think a lot of them are being set

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Speaker 1: up for misery. I mean, actor, Laura, you know you have.

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Speaker 1: I agree the metrics these days, and the metrics for

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Speaker 1: young women in particular in terms of happiness self described happiness.

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Speaker 1: It's terrifying in terms of how bad it is. How

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Speaker 1: do we start to turn again? You're going up against tsunami,

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Speaker 1: but how do we start to turn that around?

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Speaker 8: Well, I just it popped into my head as you

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Speaker 8: were asking me the question. Look at all the very

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Speaker 8: intelligent and very attractive women that are now in positions

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Speaker 8: of power in our government. I am so enthralled with that.

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Speaker 8: And I think that's wonderful for young women to have

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Speaker 8: something to aspire to keep my act clean. No more

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Speaker 8: shacking up, using drugs, this and that and the other thing.

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Speaker 8: I want to be like that lady who's now running

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Speaker 8: the whatever it is. So having role models like that,

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Speaker 8: you know, I have people calling who say I was

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Speaker 8: in a car seat in the back of my parents'

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Speaker 8: car listening to you, and now I have kids and

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Speaker 8: I'm using what I've learned. So anytime you can be

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Speaker 8: a positive influence, do it.

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Speaker 1: My wife makes fun of me because I just always

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Speaker 1: sit there in the car when she turns you on.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like doctor Laura's right. So I'm telling you this.

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Speaker 1: I was like, we have to have doctor Lauren's I'm

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Speaker 1: like doctor Laura's right. And Cary looks at me, she goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: I know, Clay, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Last question for you, and we appreciate your time. And

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Speaker 2: you're certainly a radio legend. You've been so influential for

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Speaker 2: so long when the modern era, like I was reading

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Speaker 2: the other day, the number of successful women that are

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Speaker 2: choosing to go find a sperm donor to have a

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Speaker 2: child with instead of an actual man is staggering to me.

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Speaker 2: What kind of world are we?

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Speaker 5: Okay? I wanted to get your take on.

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Speaker 8: This makes me angry because kids need a dad, and

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Speaker 8: I just say to these women, oh, that's not well.

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Speaker 7: I have money and I can take care of I

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Speaker 7: don't care about that.

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Speaker 8: You had a mommy and a daddy, and I'm sure

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Speaker 8: that meant something to you. Now you're gonna rob a

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Speaker 8: kit of a dad because it's convenient for you not

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Speaker 8: to commit and give of yourself and be vulnerable to

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Speaker 8: another human being and be invested in each other's lives beautifully,

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Speaker 8: that's a real shame that's a real shame.

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Speaker 7: That is so selfish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't look doctor Laura. We gotta have

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Speaker 1: we gotta have you back because you know, for you

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Speaker 1: to solve all problems of relationships and family and chi

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Speaker 1: child rearing in about ten minutes is asking a lot.

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Speaker 1: But you didn't know a remarkable job. Guys. There's so

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Speaker 1: many books. I mean, the Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands.

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Speaker 1: I've actually got Carrie's very dog eared and underlined copy

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Speaker 1: of My hand a great book. And go to doctor

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Speaker 1: Laura dot com because she's doing some great charity work.

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Speaker 1: To doctor Laura, we'd love to have you back, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for being here.

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Speaker 7: I would love it.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, guys, and I love listening to you too,