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Speaker 1: coworker at Crack dot com, a co creator of the
Speaker 1: Cracked podcast. Welcome back to the show. Jason Parje.
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm not dying. Don't tell the papers
Speaker 2: that I'm dying. If I start coughing in the middle
Speaker 2: of the show. I realize it. In a movie or
Speaker 2: TV show drama, if a character starts coughing, that means
Speaker 2: are gonna die.
Speaker 1: You did just pull back the napkin that you coughed.
Speaker 2: Into it it was, and then quietly, quietly hid it
Speaker 2: from you.
Speaker 1: You know, you looked around, your eyes darned back and forth,
Speaker 1: and then you tucked it into your waistband for some reason.
Speaker 2: But no, I'm just recovering from a cold. If I
Speaker 2: start clearing my throat, I am not trying to get
Speaker 2: their attention and demand that they let me talk. I
Speaker 2: am trying to clear ucas from my throat.
Speaker 1: Just the way that you do it tends to be
Speaker 1: at hem. Uh yeah, but that's all right. We'll just
Speaker 1: power through like we do all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we see if we hear that horn take
Speaker 3: at the top, we know you're not doing a DJ cool.
Speaker 1: Let me clear my throat either. How are you doing.
Speaker 1: We're excited to have you back. I'm excited about this
Speaker 1: new novel, which I blew through in a single weekend.
Speaker 1: It's a good one for fans of Jason Pargin novels.
Speaker 1: I think they're really going to enjoy it, but it's
Speaker 1: probably a distant like writing it was probably a distant
Speaker 1: memory to you at this point. How long ago is
Speaker 1: that writing it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the dozens of interviews all have to give
Speaker 2: about it means I have to keep in mind what
Speaker 2: I wrote in it. But for listeners who are in
Speaker 2: the middle of the total world chaos, we are doing
Speaker 2: a book review here. The book is relevant to what's
Speaker 2: to what's going on. I promise you you'll you'll see why.
Speaker 2: And in fact, there's going to be at least one
Speaker 2: very annoying review. I predicted a couple months it says, Wow,
Speaker 2: this is so prescient. How if you predict that there
Speaker 2: would be an event and the triggers all sorts of
Speaker 2: misinformation in cass Yeah, that was not hard.
Speaker 1: Did you know that? That was my first question? Actually,
Speaker 1: we can just get psychic, man.
Speaker 2: I love seeing the people with the little screenshots of
Speaker 2: the Simpsons from twenty years ago. It's like, Wow, they
Speaker 2: predicted that elections would become stupid in the future. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's did you see the one not take Nostrodamus, the.
Speaker 3: One where Cypress Hill, though did actually perform with the
Speaker 3: London Symphony oh really, and you remember the homer Fest thing.
Speaker 3: He's like, someone ordered the London Symphony? Did someone do
Speaker 3: it when they were high and forgotten? Like Cypress Hill's like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, did we do that?
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: They're actually performing with them now and they're like, we
Speaker 3: kind of had an opportunity and decided to make the
Speaker 3: Simpsons prediction.
Speaker 1: Right. So, I mean you hear those violins on uh,
Speaker 1: some of the early Cypress Hill stuff, you can't, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was inevitable. All right, Jason, Well, we
Speaker 1: are going to talk about some of the ideas in
Speaker 1: your book. I'm starting to worry about this black box
Speaker 1: of doom? Is that? Well? Did I say that? Right?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: I I didn't say did I not say the title
Speaker 1: in the well the first time you mentioned the I'm
Speaker 1: a pro folks, But first, we do like to get
Speaker 1: to know our guests a little bit better by asking
Speaker 1: you what is something from your search history that is
Speaker 1: revealing about who you are.
Speaker 2: I have a whole series of searchers over the last
Speaker 2: few days trying to figure out what CrowdStrike is, because
Speaker 2: it turned out all of modern civilization ran on it
Speaker 2: and I'd never heard of that company. It's an eighty
Speaker 2: billion dollar company apparently yea, And I still don't know
Speaker 2: what it does. And this before the show, I tried
Speaker 2: to Google is the CrowdStrike thing over? Is that old
Speaker 2: news or flight still grounded around the world? I can't
Speaker 2: tell because Google Search is broken, So I don't know
Speaker 2: any Does anybody at home know? Email me let me know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like that. It seems like there's still
Speaker 1: reports of flights being fucked up, mainly like you have
Speaker 1: to go to the like the markets to see, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's like people reporting on the financials and they'll
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, our our reporting indicates because they have
Speaker 1: to get that right because money is at stake. But
Speaker 1: it does seem like it's taken a while to untangle
Speaker 1: CrowdStrike and there it was just like an update that
Speaker 1: was ill advised, and somehow that took became one of
Speaker 1: the biggest technology fuck ups yet to this point in
Speaker 1: human history. A company that sounds like just a board
Speaker 1: game from the nineteen eighties. Yeah, that would have been
Speaker 1: fun to play. Yeah, from the makers of crossfires Crowdstrikes.
Speaker 3: But CrowdStrike there's I mean, like they're the stat that
Speaker 3: I saw that I was like, oh right, because everything's
Speaker 3: just consolidating. Is like they handle like these IT services
Speaker 3: for like five hundred and thirty eight of the top
Speaker 3: one thousand companies. Yeah, so like yeah, that chunk of
Speaker 3: like that kind of critical software going down, Yeah, will
Speaker 3: cause a lot of chaos, unless you're like a Linux person,
Speaker 3: and then which case you were fucking laughing because you're like, bro,
Speaker 3: I'm on Linux.
Speaker 1: Fuck that.
Speaker 2: I think it's the range of things that went down
Speaker 2: that shocks people because it's like, okay, flights got grounded. Also,
Speaker 2: when we tried to buy coffee at Starbucks, their point
Speaker 2: of sales software was dead because of CrowdStrike. And then
Speaker 2: also it's like a whole range of things across all society.
Speaker 2: Nine to one one service went down for some people
Speaker 2: for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hospital, it's like, oh so this all runs.
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, it all runs on a computer somewhere,
Speaker 2: and if those computers are running Windows, and if they're
Speaker 2: using CrowdStrike to do whatever CrowdStrike does, I apologize audience,
Speaker 2: I still don't know. Then, Yeah, they pushed out that
Speaker 2: updated brick the computer. They could not simply push out
Speaker 2: another update because the only way to fix it was
Speaker 2: to like manually install and delete a file because your
Speaker 2: the computers were stuck in a boot loop. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so they couldn't just push out so yeah, but one
Speaker 2: I don't know, one string of code crippled much of
Speaker 2: the world's economy instantly.
Speaker 1: The solution was ultimately the solution to all tech problems,
Speaker 1: which is just like restart throwing on the ground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: throw it on the ground.
Speaker 3: Well, because like the one version was like you'd have
Speaker 3: to go into every individual computer and like take this
Speaker 3: file out, which is like we do it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like that's this.
Speaker 3: You can't just do this over the waves, or at
Speaker 3: least at the time I at last, I was like
Speaker 3: looking for videos. I'm like, please explain to me, like
Speaker 3: I don't know what a computer is, what the fuck.
Speaker 1: Is going on? And I still I came away with
Speaker 1: a very vague understanding. Yeah, but it does feel like
Speaker 1: this becomes more and more possible the more we turn
Speaker 1: everything over to the machines and we're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they got it. We don't need humans on the ground
Speaker 1: doing you know, local deployments. That then if those work
Speaker 1: get deployed two more places, it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah or yeah, yeah, or shout out to the I
Speaker 3: don't want to date my software crowd because they also
Speaker 3: may have like just inadvertently gotten around things too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the like anecdotal stuff I heard in
Speaker 1: the early days was or in the early hours, I
Speaker 1: guess was that the airlines that were actually functioning were
Speaker 1: the non major carriers, and so it could be a
Speaker 1: situation where like CrowdStrike is the expensive, higher end option
Speaker 1: that like sells for millions and millions of dollars that
Speaker 1: only a major corporation can eat, and so they got fucked.
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, our services we go through cloud clown.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's affordable. But yeah, we didn't have
Speaker 1: any problems the cloud cloud clown. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated? Molly?
Speaker 5: Underrated? What did I say? Uh? I might have said
Speaker 5: this on the show before because I only have three topics.
Speaker 1: But the beach, the beach is under it.
Speaker 3: Go on, tell me why I hate how cold the
Speaker 3: water is a lot.
Speaker 5: Of Oh my god, what are you a baby? Baby?
Speaker 5: You know who loves the beach?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 7: It is?
Speaker 1: Baby is? I know, I know I'm trying to tell
Speaker 1: my baby. I'm like, brother, I look so happy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think I think the beach is awesome.
Speaker 5: It's free, it's it's cool. You get to go there
Speaker 5: when it's hot. I love the how cold the water is.
Speaker 5: I actually when I've been to other places where they
Speaker 5: have warmer water in the ocean, I'm always like, this sucks.
Speaker 1: Give me the pacifically ice cold. Yeah, Pacific interesting.
Speaker 5: I love on the ice.
Speaker 3: You'll actually be like I don't like this warm water beach.
Speaker 5: Yes, because when I went to like Pensacola, where it's
Speaker 5: the Gulf of Mexico, which is like it's like when
Speaker 5: the water is the same temperature as the air, it's
Speaker 5: like not refreshing.
Speaker 1: I get that part. Yeah, Mexico is not actually an
Speaker 1: oce that's a that's like a pool.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's a gold Okay, fine, but you know you
Speaker 5: hear what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's just it's like shallow and warm.
Speaker 5: When when I get in a body of water, I
Speaker 5: expect it to be freezing cold and then and it's not.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh I wish it was freezing cold because
Speaker 5: it's like your body, it just hot.
Speaker 1: Hot. I was expecting cold was hot.
Speaker 5: It's just vegetables.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just took my kids do a beach
Speaker 1: clean up this past weekend, which was a great way
Speaker 1: to like pass a Saturday morning. Like they got competitive
Speaker 1: about getting the best garbage like all each what Beachdondo?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, see that's where I like to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Redondo's great. It was like nice, and you know,
Speaker 1: it was super hot back where I live, but like
Speaker 1: down there it's still like misty cool from That's what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 5: I'm just think I think it's underrated because I feel
Speaker 5: like there's a lot of people in LA who never
Speaker 5: go to the beach.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I had the thought, I was like, we need
Speaker 1: to go to the beach more. What are you doing?
Speaker 5: And now I have a new policy of just like
Speaker 5: you know, it's like an hour in the car, yeah,
Speaker 5: but it's kind an hour in the car to get anywhere,
Speaker 5: so I might as well be at the beach at
Speaker 5: the end.
Speaker 3: Also, the great part too is the people watching. You
Speaker 3: will always see some shit at the Yeah, really, you
Speaker 3: will always see some shit.
Speaker 1: I mean, great people watching.
Speaker 5: And also like every time I've been there recently, I've
Speaker 5: seen someone digging a really big hole.
Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah, how like a child?
Speaker 5: Mostly children, But like sometimes then it seems like it's
Speaker 5: like people will see someone doing it and then they
Speaker 5: start doing it so funny. It's like you turn around
Speaker 5: and someone's like buried in the sand up to their
Speaker 5: chest all of a sudden cooking out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we do. I'm about to go back east,
Speaker 1: and that's basically every morning is just taking a big
Speaker 1: ass hole in the beach. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I love that. Kids love it so much. It's like
Speaker 5: another again, a free activity that everybody loves, getting a
Speaker 5: big hole in the sand.
Speaker 1: But then you got to fill that back in less
Speaker 1: than elderly person fall into it. Besides my holes, all right,
Speaker 1: my holes become hazards for the elderly.
Speaker 5: You fall in a lot of holes on the page.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, watch out for other elderly. Definitely not me,
Speaker 1: because I have my wits about me and just imagining you,
Speaker 1: like mister McGoo, just running with my head facing the.
Speaker 3: Sky, chasing a seagull.
Speaker 1: Sandwich. Get back here with my funnel cake, mister mcgo.
Speaker 5: We got all the hot cultural references. Justis mister.
Speaker 1: Always fascinating? Ben? What is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: Two things?
Speaker 7: I know this is close to a lot of us
Speaker 7: listening this evening and close to you guys as well.
Speaker 7: I would say on a petty level, I don't dig Vegas.
Speaker 7: I think Vegas is overrated. Hoover Dam's awesome, but I'm
Speaker 7: just the schlubby guy. Vegas is not for me, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean. But more importantly, America's never ending
Speaker 7: election cycle is so fucking weird.
Speaker 3: We're on the Hoover Dam vill never ending your election cycle. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's funny. We've had two Las Vegas contradicting opinions on
Speaker 3: Las Vegas over the Oh really yeah, Molly Lambert was
Speaker 3: on saying well, she was more saying I picked Vegas
Speaker 3: over Palm Springs.
Speaker 1: Palm Springs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but yeah, either way. The never ending election cycle, though,
Speaker 3: is not just overrated, it's detrimental, I think, to the
Speaker 3: entire country to drag shit out like this and have
Speaker 3: every like, all the attention go on this thing that
Speaker 3: really doesn't bring about a lot of change, I mean,
Speaker 3: depending on who's policies are enacted. But like, truly, the
Speaker 3: way we treat it and like to the detriment of
Speaker 3: every other story that's happening in the country.
Speaker 1: And in the world is a little fucking yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my favorite response to the Kamala Harris like taking
Speaker 1: over people being like how is she gonna run for president?
Speaker 1: And this amount of time, we don't have enough time.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, look at literally every other
Speaker 1: country and.
Speaker 7: Exactly, you don't need that huge amount of time. But
Speaker 7: it makes the media billions and billions of dollars to
Speaker 7: have that kind of coverage. It also reminds me of
Speaker 7: that it was a night out in the cold for
Speaker 7: me as a child when I learned that Red Lobster's
Speaker 7: special lobster Fest is just all the time. It's not
Speaker 7: a special occation, it's always Lobsterfest. It's always election season here.
Speaker 1: In the United States. Yeah, that's right. I don't all right, guys,
Speaker 1: election seasons coming up, said lobsters loss.
Speaker 3: But this given wolit wolf Blitzer, Yeah, got his sprits
Speaker 3: are knocked out of his fucking hand, said to go
Speaker 3: aport on this shit.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll get your overrated underrated and talk some news.
Speaker 4: And we're back. We're back, and JD. Bans will make
Speaker 4: you dance. Yeah, dude, he's got so much fucking energy. Man,
Speaker 4: I'm nervous, dude.
Speaker 1: He seems so like genuine and just like rizzed up.
Speaker 3: And oh my god, he's a grand grand wizard of
Speaker 3: the KKK.
Speaker 1: This guy's so got so much riz.
Speaker 8: But yeah, like the continued fallout from Biden's dropout, Like
Speaker 8: we've got some interesting insights in the Trump campaign, like
Speaker 8: we I think we were talking yesterday or the day
Speaker 8: before about you know, one of the big takeaways was
Speaker 8: that the entire campaign was praying to God every.
Speaker 1: Night that Biden's day in the race.
Speaker 3: Like, dude, it can't be like we did all of
Speaker 3: our homework on this one guy for years. This is
Speaker 3: and by homework we just mean we were going to
Speaker 3: do the thing about Like, yo, this dude is so old,
Speaker 3: but now their biggest fear has come true and that
Speaker 3: they've pivoted away from Joe Biden and now they need
Speaker 3: an entirely new playbook.
Speaker 1: And the other thing we found out it seems like
Speaker 1: did you ever I guess this doesn't really apply to
Speaker 1: you guys from being from l A. But like when
Speaker 1: there were snow days and you would like wait and
Speaker 1: wait and wait up to the last minute of like
Speaker 1: for school to be canceled, and then you'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: it's too late. They can't like have school now because
Speaker 1: they like waited too too long. That seems to be
Speaker 1: like the Republican waited too long, you can't he can't
Speaker 1: drop out now. He waited too long, Like that doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't announce it, yeah, or like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in high school, like if thefesser was late, I
Speaker 3: always talk about like the fifteen minute window.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're like I'm like walking out there, like down
Speaker 1: the hallway.
Speaker 3: Class is still happening, Like, bro, you are not in
Speaker 3: the room, and if fifteen minutes hit, I'm gone, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that. Yeah, he can't go. You're
Speaker 1: still gonna You're gonna miss the test, like you fucking monster.
Speaker 5: It's really funny to see the Republicans suddenly being like.
Speaker 1: Rule, what about the rules?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just shut up the hypocrites. It was
Speaker 3: never about the rules anyway.
Speaker 1: But Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other thing that we found out was the selection
Speaker 3: of jd. Vance is starting to make people in the
Speaker 3: campaign and like other allies of the Trump camp crew
Speaker 3: like nervous. Apparently his selection was based on just turning
Speaker 3: the MAGA knob up all the way and trying to
Speaker 3: maximize the turnout for their base. They were not going
Speaker 3: for a like a VP pick that was going to Bridge,
Speaker 3: I don't know, bringing some moderates or independence whoever.
Speaker 1: That is anymore not a political decision. No, Yeah, they.
Speaker 3: Wanted to spike the football. They were like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: it's a foregone conclusion. Man, get the fucking monster Junior
Speaker 3: as his VP, and we've got something like and everyone's
Speaker 3: gonna love it. But yeah, Well, aside from the fact
Speaker 3: that he is unlikable and even you know, someone like
Speaker 3: Mitt Romney described him as a person he could not
Speaker 3: disrespect more, he is also just again just a black
Speaker 3: hole of the coveted riz man. The charisma is just
Speaker 3: not there. He recently had a very jeb Bushian moment
Speaker 3: when he tried to make a joke about drinking mountain diet.
Speaker 1: Mountain Wait.
Speaker 3: I don't even know how to say it, because, like,
Speaker 3: it doesn't even make sense on d here he is
Speaker 3: talking about doing that WMD.
Speaker 1: It is the weirdest thing to me.
Speaker 8: Democrats say that it is racist to believe, well, they
Speaker 8: say it's racist to do anything.
Speaker 1: I had a die mountain dew yesterday and one today.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna call that racist too, but it's good.
Speaker 1: I love you guys.
Speaker 6: Wait, holy Ship, this is a full ass like crowd.
Speaker 6: Ship is dying to like love this guy.
Speaker 5: This is actually this is like open mic energy and
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 1: Lost the crowd.
Speaker 5: He couldn't even get a crowd full of racist white
Speaker 5: people with you, guys like soda Mountain Dew.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the problem was that it was
Speaker 1: diet mountain deke.
Speaker 5: You just need to but everyone's favorite.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of I was this was actually a
Speaker 3: tweet I was gonna like, but someone I'll give credit at.
Speaker 3: Nick Moscato tweeted it's like that clip and just said,
Speaker 3: guy says he's from Apple. Hia then talked about drinking
Speaker 3: diet Mountain Dew, and they showed the scene from Ingloria's
Speaker 3: Bastards and he's like three whiskies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, diet mountain deof, What the fuck are
Speaker 1: you talking about?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So he's uh, that was very very uh cringey. I
Speaker 3: also realized I was trying to figure out who he
Speaker 3: looks like. He looks like he would be in Zod's
Speaker 3: crew from Superman two, Like he got this.
Speaker 1: Like the beard with a little eyeliner thing. He looks
Speaker 1: like if Zod was Zi. He looks like this son
Speaker 1: of addicted to zen pouches.
Speaker 5: Heads if anybody watches Southern Charm, he looks exactly like
Speaker 5: this guy who's on Southern Charm, whose name is j T.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 5: Who's like also just kind of like a really a
Speaker 5: weird rizzless Yeah yeah, captile human Charlie brownhead Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's a little he's a little cuter than
Speaker 1: than JD. Vans. I'll give JT. I'll give Jarrett that thing,
Speaker 1: JT that that honor, but yeah, just certified reptile human
Speaker 1: energy from JD.
Speaker 7: Van.
Speaker 1: It's like just all the facial expressions, the hand gesture
Speaker 1: when he says I love you guys, he gives like
Speaker 1: this point that is just like and now I am
Speaker 1: pointing and I'm pointing. It's just he's like, I love
Speaker 1: you guys. It's very where is it. It's good? It's good.
Speaker 1: One more time, I love you guys.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, it's so fucking painful.
Speaker 10: And he like that.
Speaker 3: And that's what's kind of wild too, because thinking like that,
Speaker 3: they were like the base is gonna love this fucking guy,
Speaker 3: Like he's going to help turn out even more people.
Speaker 3: But like, again, this was a really poor showing, but
Speaker 3: he has the racism down.
Speaker 1: I'll give him that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because earlier, I think later in the day, he
Speaker 3: was speaking again to another audience and was saying that
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris has been collecting a government check for the
Speaker 3: past twenty years, and like, as a politician, there is
Speaker 3: but okay, yeah, wealth queen on my guy.
Speaker 1: I feel like, so there's already people within the campaign
Speaker 1: be it. Like somebody who was talking to the Trump
Speaker 1: campaign after Biden dropped out was like, there's they seem
Speaker 1: very unhappy that Biden dropped out, right, And this is
Speaker 1: a quote from an Atlantic staff writer, Tim Alberta. The
Speaker 1: most striking thing I heard from Trump allies yesterday was
Speaker 1: the second guessing of JD Vance, a selection they acknowledged
Speaker 1: that was born of cockiness, meant to run up margins
Speaker 1: with the base and a blowout rather than persuade swing
Speaker 1: voters in a nail bier. And I feel like Trump's
Speaker 1: body is going to reject this man in the way
Speaker 1: that like it rejected the unity message that he was
Speaker 1: being asked to spread at the RNC, and like he
Speaker 1: when he tried to be the unity guy, his body
Speaker 1: like started shutting down and he got like all sleepy,
Speaker 1: you know, and then he just like riffs some fucking
Speaker 1: the late great Hannibal lecture ship Who's sleepy? Now sleepy? Now?
Speaker 1: You old fuck.
Speaker 3: There's another interaction when like right after they announced like
Speaker 3: one of their first appearances together of Trump and JD.
Speaker 3: Vance And if you look, jd Vance just has this
Speaker 3: like intense sycophant energy that I know Trump likes someone
Speaker 3: that comes off a little bit cooler, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, And this guy comes off as like number
Speaker 3: one like again you know, you know what.
Speaker 5: It's you know what it's giving a little bit is
Speaker 5: Kenny Powers and Stevie Janowski.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Kenny, You're so fucking cool.
Speaker 1: Kenny like it really?
Speaker 3: So what's this this? He's like he's laughing at a
Speaker 3: Trump joke here or whatever. I don't know, but this
Speaker 3: is this is his vibe with Trump.
Speaker 11: Did we have enough people? Why didn't we have enough people?
Speaker 1: Somebody's talking about the asassination of the temple.
Speaker 11: Will put on Biden's detailed The problem is Biden doesn't
Speaker 11: draw anybody. He draws flies, He draws nobody. And you
Speaker 11: know you don't need very many people for that because
Speaker 11: he does not draw up thirty people show up and
Speaker 11: we have fifty five, sixty thousand people show up.
Speaker 1: He's just quietly laughing, like a podcast producer. You can't
Speaker 1: laugh out loud. But but this is great. I want
Speaker 1: to let him know that they're killing No.
Speaker 5: It is like though, it's like when there's a kid
Speaker 5: who's a class clown and he's got like a second
Speaker 5: in command that's this therapy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, my friend everyone hates that kid though.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, bro, you're just like he's fucking hanger on dude.
Speaker 5: And my friend called it. There would be like a
Speaker 5: kid who's like the Yo kid, who's like when someone
Speaker 5: says just like.
Speaker 6: Yo, oh yeah he's yo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's yo man, mister yoah, holy shit, spot on.
Speaker 1: And he switches pick. Would that be unprecedented? Like if
Speaker 1: Trump switched his pick at this point, because I feel
Speaker 1: like he's gonna want.
Speaker 5: To a lot of things are happening that are impressed
Speaker 5: on especial who says Kamala picks an astronaut as her
Speaker 5: VP pick who's the astronaut.
Speaker 1: Mark Kelly, Mark Kelly from Arizona. Like, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's if she picks Mark Kelly, he's gonna be so jealous, he's.
Speaker 5: Gonna want to go to speak.
Speaker 1: Fucking she got an astronaut.
Speaker 3: That guy's arms, he's like, you drink diet mountain dew. Okay,
Speaker 3: he just like goes away bummed out in his room.
Speaker 3: But yeah, while all that's hot happening, you know, and
Speaker 3: and Janie Vance, you know, for a second thought, Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris was going to be the person he was having
Speaker 3: to do battle with. That's still unknown, but the GOP
Speaker 3: is still they're they're really trying to figure out how
Speaker 3: to come at Kamala, like what their line of attack is.
Speaker 3: Obviously predictably reflexively, they are just going with their hatred
Speaker 3: of black women to like power a lot of their
Speaker 3: talking points, and it's become pretty fucking out there. And also,
Speaker 3: I mean we probably said this in earlier episode, but
Speaker 3: now it seems like she has the like it's needed
Speaker 3: to secure the nomination.
Speaker 1: So yeah, perhaps we're avoiding.
Speaker 5: Going with something that's kind of like she's too hot?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like what uh she thinks she's so cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she thinks she's so cool, right, guys, she's kind of
Speaker 1: weird if you think about it, she's like weird.
Speaker 5: Like honestly, also she is super weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's hard. That's why it's funny too.
Speaker 3: Even that thing that like would you just fall out
Speaker 3: of the coconut treat that became popular because the Republican
Speaker 3: Party clipped that out and tried to use that to
Speaker 3: be like this is not like look at this fool
Speaker 3: and basically gave gave birth to a new meme that's
Speaker 3: like partially powering this new campaign.
Speaker 5: You know what, maybe we need a cookie bitch forent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Like their attempt to smear
Speaker 1: her has turned into is like fun kookie energy, like yeah.
Speaker 3: And memes are important these days in elections for a
Speaker 3: lot of people who are just like going off vibes.
Speaker 5: Childless and they and they can't talk about any of
Speaker 5: the things that are actually wrong with her because they
Speaker 5: you know, they.
Speaker 1: Kept them too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's locking people up indiscriminately as attorney general.
Speaker 1: They're like, whoa, I agree with that kind of.
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, they're they're now like just full on
Speaker 3: scrambling to try and figure out like what is actually
Speaker 3: going to stick in terms of like their attacks.
Speaker 5: He said what did he say? Trump said something and
Speaker 5: it didn't stick at all, and everybody was like, he's
Speaker 5: losing the juice.
Speaker 1: About his poll numbers. Pl he was like, he called.
Speaker 5: He called her something, but it was like it wasn't
Speaker 5: like kooky Kamala, but it was like something like that
Speaker 5: where everybody was like, man, usually he's got it with
Speaker 5: the nicknames, but like he's lose. He's not laughing Kamala.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: Oh no, laughing Kamala is here.
Speaker 5: Everyone that makes her sound like she's in like a
Speaker 5: folk tale.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're like, yeah, the woman with the best attitude,
Speaker 3: laughing Kamala bring brought joy to all those around her.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like the right now.
Speaker 3: Initially they were like, oh, we love that it's Kamala
Speaker 3: Harris because we can just tie her to all of
Speaker 3: the failures of the Biden administration and all that's gonna stick.
Speaker 3: But they are still having trouble, like like when they
Speaker 3: say it out loud, for whatever reason, they just don't know,
Speaker 3: like like it just doesn't feel right even to them.
Speaker 3: So the NRSC who like helps run Senate like Senate
Speaker 3: campaigns for the Republicans. They distributed talking points of like
Speaker 3: how to hit her. You know, they're like ones like
Speaker 3: she supports Hamas. Another one's like she tried to ban fracking.
Speaker 3: She's the border czar, and you're like, what the fuck.
Speaker 3: Then there's this one section at the bottom called like
Speaker 3: there's ones called crime, healthcare, foreign policy. The last section
Speaker 3: is called weird. And these are some of the things
Speaker 3: that they're like, and you could hit her on this.
Speaker 3: This is the weird stuff that they feel like they
Speaker 3: can attack with. Kamala Harris has a habit of laughing
Speaker 3: at inappropriate moments. Kamala Harris pledged to ban plastic straws.
Speaker 3: Kamala favor is in favor of banning certain behaviors.
Speaker 1: Okay uh. Kamala Harris loves ven diagrams.
Speaker 8: Kamala Harris loves electric school buses because she went to
Speaker 8: school on a school bus.
Speaker 1: What the fuck does that one even mean? Like these
Speaker 1: are all linked off to she bus just a statement
Speaker 1: made I she's.
Speaker 3: Talking about yet probably saying like, yeah, you know, when
Speaker 3: I was riding the school bus.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did she rode a school bus. Like
Speaker 1: there's also cherry picking like weird statements by her and
Speaker 1: being like this woman's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rather than like what you'd say about Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: You're like, bruh, this this is.
Speaker 1: You like ven diagra? What a the other one?
Speaker 3: This fool loves his daughter in an inappropriate way. That's weird.
Speaker 3: You want to you want to go on to judge
Speaker 3: to fucking Trump's Well, they're.
Speaker 5: They're keep being like she doesn't have any like naturally
Speaker 5: birthed children of her own. She's only got this blended family.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, it's very katies.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think it's like that's sort of Trump, I
Speaker 5: guess to be like, she's a career woman. Yeah, she's
Speaker 5: she's being working girl at the office and she doesn't
Speaker 5: come home and make meals for her children her cat.
Speaker 1: That's right. It's wild how hard it seems like they
Speaker 1: are are totally taken off guard by this. And they
Speaker 1: really doubled down on Biden being old, which makes sense
Speaker 1: because he was way too old.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, the Democrats were not looking like they
Speaker 5: were going to get it together in any way. It
Speaker 5: seemed really chaotic behind the scenes, and and like the
Speaker 5: Democrats weren't even going to be able to agree on
Speaker 5: whether Biden should drop out who should replace him if
Speaker 5: he does, And so the fact that they got it
Speaker 5: together this fast, Trump was tweeting like a like a bitch.
Speaker 1: What was tweeting?
Speaker 5: Like you could tell that they were like, it's in
Speaker 5: the bag. This is also like when the when he
Speaker 5: got shot at and everybody was like, oh, it's over,
Speaker 5: It's it's in the bag for Trump now. And I
Speaker 5: was just like, the news cycle is so fast now, yeah,
Speaker 5: so many more things can happen, Like it's like a
Speaker 5: Checkers speech every day now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like every and everybody on TV these days
Speaker 3: has been shot at on some level.
Speaker 5: So it's like and just like it changes so fast,
Speaker 5: Like you know, the CNN people were like, okay, like
Speaker 5: Biden's losing the Republicans, you know. And I hate the
Speaker 5: way that like they do can declare consensus on like
Speaker 5: CNN or something where it's like all the pundits are
Speaker 5: suddenly like, well, you know, Trump's gonna win. Yeah, based
Speaker 5: on that, they feel like they have to have a
Speaker 5: consensus so that they can all like repeat the same
Speaker 5: message and then so fast every single day that.
Speaker 1: But now Trump is the oldest official nominee in the history.
Speaker 1: Like after that was kind of their only and main angle.
Speaker 1: He is the oldest official nominee in the history.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were like all they put all their eggs
Speaker 5: in the old white it's a he's an old white
Speaker 5: man out of touch basket. Yeah, and now everyone's like,
Speaker 5: you're an old white man's.
Speaker 1: Seeming seeming older. Like his speech was very like old
Speaker 1: and dog stuff wasn't good before.
Speaker 5: But that's what's crazy is after he got shot at
Speaker 5: and everybody was like, oh, he's a change man. Now
Speaker 5: he's like you know, and now he's going to become
Speaker 5: like like step up into the presidency, step up to
Speaker 5: the plate. And then it's like, no, he was rambling
Speaker 5: and sounding crazy before. It's just that Joe Biden was
Speaker 5: rambling more right and sounding more seen isle than he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Now he's sound senile compared to Kamala and and you know,
Speaker 5: just like the optics thing where they're like, I think
Speaker 5: they really thought next to Biden, Trump looks like a
Speaker 5: virile young man. Yeah, which is clearly how Trump sees
Speaker 5: himself in his mind, is that it's like here.
Speaker 3: Comes the cult mentality, does to them though, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like they're like, this guy's impervious to anything, and.
Speaker 1: Then they're like, oh my god, he is old. What
Speaker 1: the fuck Like, that's not fair. We don't like this juxtaposition.
Speaker 1: The thing he put out on truth Social the other night.
Speaker 3: He said, Lion Kamala Harris, the Biden appointed borders are
Speaker 3: who never visited the border and who's incompetence gave us
Speaker 3: the worst and most dangerous border anywhere in the world.
Speaker 10: That's so okay, that is so patently false, But okay
Speaker 10: has absolutely terrible poll p O l E numbers against
Speaker 10: a fine and brilliant young man named Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trump. Be careful what you wish for Democrats.
Speaker 5: Magnet, brilliant young man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's such.
Speaker 3: That is so much high level cope that I'm like, Wyo,
Speaker 3: you do never you never want to be an old
Speaker 3: person out here referring to yourself as a young man.
Speaker 1: You're not even a middle age. It's just like such
Speaker 1: an old man joke to make like it's It reminds
Speaker 1: me of like Reagan on his last legs, being like, well,
Speaker 1: I am I won't let my opponent's young age him
Speaker 1: and it's like the last coherent thing he said.
Speaker 5: Look, I think some of those guys too, it's like
Speaker 5: they got gassed up so much when they were young men. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that they think it's just carries forward for your entire life.
Speaker 5: They're just like, I'm a young buck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, a young buck.
Speaker 5: Nobody wants me because to win because I'm too young
Speaker 5: and hot.
Speaker 1: But also, like we all know.
Speaker 5: Trump gets flustered around a hot woman. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 5: I do imagine. I feel like Kamala makes him be
Speaker 5: like rod a danger field like noun.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know which one to lean into, his womanizing
Speaker 3: or his racism around her.
Speaker 1: He's like, right, which button? I don't know. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a tough time.
Speaker 5: I mean somebody some republic can already called her like
Speaker 5: a Jezebel, which is like both racists and sexist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean that's that's the thing that, like,
Speaker 3: you know, I get the enthusiasm of it not being
Speaker 3: Joe Biden anymore, because clearly, just seeing someone who can
Speaker 3: like move their body in like a spry manner, you're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I love this, But I'm just it's
Speaker 3: the it's the it's the culture of our electorate that
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just not sure what happens, you know, Like
Speaker 3: even even if the Democrats are saying like we have
Speaker 3: to be Trump, we have to be Trump, it's just
Speaker 3: like the racism of it all too that I'm not
Speaker 3: That's like the one thing I'm like, I don't know, man, Like,
Speaker 3: I just also like never terrible.
Speaker 1: This country is never.
Speaker 5: Count out the Democrats on biffing it, Yeah, right on
Speaker 5: biffing something that seems like a foregone win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. All the headlines right now are
Speaker 1: very pro like exactly what the narrative right now, you know,
Speaker 1: and the media does thrive on like creating a consensus
Speaker 1: narrative that they can then upend in the next news cycle.
Speaker 1: But the narrative right now is like went from yesterday
Speaker 1: like shock poll Harris closes in on Biden, to right
Speaker 1: now shock poll, Harris leads Trump, and it's yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't trust a damn poll.
Speaker 1: Also trust a p O L E poll. That's this
Speaker 1: one is also a shock poll. P O l E.
Speaker 1: It's just used to electrocute people. Yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: cattle prod. Yeah, all right, we should take a quick
Speaker 1: break and come back and talk about coffee badging. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back, all right, We're not gonna keep talking
Speaker 1: about we talked about the JD Vance thing yesterday. We're back,
Speaker 1: by the way, we talked about the JD on yesterday's trending.
Speaker 1: If you want to hear more speculation about the the
Speaker 1: couch rules, restrain ourselves. Yeah, yeah, we have to. We
Speaker 1: have to cut ourselves off. You know, they're saying no glove,
Speaker 1: no love, as JD Van says, If that.
Speaker 9: Was true that Jdvans had sex with a couch, that
Speaker 9: would be one of the most likable things about him.
Speaker 1: That's what I've been saying. If he did that and
Speaker 1: then wrote it in his memoir, in his like coming
Speaker 1: of age memoir, I would be like, oh, maybe like
Speaker 1: he actually told the truth in this memoir. Maybe there's
Speaker 1: like a core of like something interesting.
Speaker 9: Or yeah, but exactly that's relatable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really we all did.
Speaker 9: I mean, we're all acting like we've never fucked a couch.
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, I mean, I'm definitely not acting
Speaker 1: like that fiance was a deck chair, you know.
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm serious, though, I don't make it more
Speaker 9: and more human. I mean, the guys have a dark
Speaker 9: money you know, Trojan Horse, absolute fucking Nazi. I mean,
Speaker 9: there's no way around it.
Speaker 1: You can put them in the outfit. Loved Chris, he said,
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 9: Oh that thing where he did on the joke where
Speaker 9: he made that joke about diet. Yeah, like he doesn't
Speaker 9: even know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. He's out of his fucking mind.
Speaker 9: He doesn't even have to talk to the world or anything.
Speaker 9: He's so used to talking to Peter Teal or whoever,
Speaker 9: like dark money people who he just goes yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: yeah yeah. And then he goes out in public and
Speaker 9: he's like, it's good I drank Mountain Dew and everybody
Speaker 9: thinks I'm racist?
Speaker 1: What maybe other racist ship that you say? Nah, it's
Speaker 1: from the Mountain Dew. No, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Get me back, take me off.
Speaker 6: The stood out of you guys anyway.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I hope he sucked a couch. Yeah me too.
Speaker 1: That's our only hope. Yeah, you're you're our only hope.
Speaker 1: We're in there.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's still a couch fucker A passionate man.
Speaker 1: All right, So I want to talk about how Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris's nomination. Her run is being covered in the mainstream media,
Speaker 1: specifically a series of headlines that are kind of disparaging
Speaker 1: the idea of a black woman running for president, But
Speaker 1: since they put a question mark at the end of
Speaker 1: the headline, it's okay, seems to be the logic in Newsweek,
Speaker 1: is America ready for a black woman president? Question mark?
Speaker 1: The conversation Race, Gender and Politics. Is the United States
Speaker 1: ready for a black woman president? Question mark? USA today?
Speaker 1: And they didn't manage to put it into a colorful
Speaker 1: pie chart, but they said, is the US ready for
Speaker 1: a black woman president? Question mark? Why a leading congressman
Speaker 1: isn't sure?
Speaker 3: You know, she's also half South Asian, right, But it's
Speaker 3: so funny to see Democrats also push that because like
Speaker 3: they're trying to really pitch her as this person too
Speaker 3: when she's biracial, which is very interesting to see also, But.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are they ready for this black woman?
Speaker 3: I mean, I see, I understand like questioning that, but
Speaker 3: that has to be more of an investigation into the
Speaker 3: white supremacy that like presides over the entirety of American thinking,
Speaker 3: versus like this shit, which is like I don't know
Speaker 3: like a black lady. It's like, what this is like,
Speaker 3: what these headlines feel like, rather than maybe something a
Speaker 3: bit deeper.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, I think I can't believe it because
Speaker 9: those headlines are really just saying, like I mean, they're
Speaker 9: really putting a question mark on it, but yeah, we're
Speaker 9: not ready for a black president.
Speaker 1: We don't.
Speaker 9: I mean, that's like, I mean, those headlines are just
Speaker 9: like you don't really want a black president, do you?
Speaker 9: That's all it is. And and it's insanity that we
Speaker 9: talk about race as much as we do in this country.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's just so sad. It's so sad that
Speaker 9: that is, like even and why does that enter into everything?
Speaker 9: I mean, I know why, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 9: it's like who gives a shit?
Speaker 1: You know? We you know what for people?
Speaker 9: Do you know, especially when you're coming off, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The the idea of the president being an old
Speaker 1: white guy is very deeply rooted in how America thinks
Speaker 1: about the job, both on the right end on the left,
Speaker 1: and a big part of that I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we can say the problem is caused
Speaker 1: by or if it's reflected by but you know, Hollywood
Speaker 1: liberalism certainly is in lockstep with this trend. The Washington
Speaker 1: Post in twenty twenty publisher report finding that the vast
Speaker 1: majority of mainstream movies have portrayed the president as a straight,
Speaker 1: CIS white male, which that's obviously been the case in
Speaker 1: real life as well. But literally anything can happen in
Speaker 1: a movie. But you know, one of these movies that
Speaker 1: made the president a straight white CIS male had aliens
Speaker 1: being taken out by a floppy disc, you know, like
Speaker 1: literally a floppy disc that they uploaded on somehow the
Speaker 1: fucking alien ship had a slot for a floppy disc.
Speaker 1: But in examining one hundred and forty eight presidential depictions
Speaker 1: in movies since nineteen thirty two, they found that one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three out of one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: eight movie character presidents were white men. And they found
Speaker 1: precisely zero examples of women of color playing fictional presidents.
Speaker 1: That's fucking bonkered. Like other twenty five characters who didn't
Speaker 1: fall into the like straight white guy category, sixteen more
Speaker 1: people of color thirteen were black two where hispanic one
Speaker 1: was Asian. The remaining nine characters were white women. And
Speaker 1: there were yeah, no women of color playing fictional presidents.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a I mean, it's a it's a
Speaker 3: reflect I don't know's. I can't say this is caused
Speaker 3: by Hollywood. This is I mean, like, this is the
Speaker 3: momentum of American culture. Is too is to box people
Speaker 3: out that aren't white CIS men in terms of like
Speaker 3: who can actually lead. Obviously other people are able to
Speaker 3: rise to those heights, but yeah, I think maybe what
Speaker 3: it does though, too, is it reinforces this sort of
Speaker 3: cultural racist momentum that we have by always being like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean like it's probably a white guy, right, Like
Speaker 3: that's what the president has to be, so we can
Speaker 3: feel okay about it. And if it's a black guy
Speaker 3: as a president means the world is ending in a movie,
Speaker 3: or there's a disaster happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Deep Impact or Danny Glover in twenty twelve
Speaker 1: or Jamie Fox and White House Down, like those are
Speaker 1: the types of movies where the president is allowed to
Speaker 1: be black or twenty four you know, where there's a
Speaker 1: different terrorist attack every like twenty five minutes. But just
Speaker 1: in general, both voting and in movies, the idea of
Speaker 1: a woman president seems to cause some problems for people.
Speaker 1: The first movie to introduce this idea was nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: five's Kisses for My President, Lot My President. The poster
Speaker 1: has a woman president answering the phone at you know,
Speaker 1: the desk in the Oval office, and her husband standing
Speaker 1: next to her in a hat that has like flowers
Speaker 1: all over it for some reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's like wearing like a like a like
Speaker 3: what a first lady would wear, Like it's the inverse,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on his head, lady, and then he has a
Speaker 1: suit on. When a woman becomes president of the US,
Speaker 1: what happens to her poor husband when he becomes the
Speaker 1: first lady.
Speaker 9: That's one of my favorite movies. I don't know why
Speaker 9: you guys are laughing about.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, yeah, no, but where are you going
Speaker 1: to get to the weird part this? You're talking about?
Speaker 1: Kids from My President such a good movie. So it
Speaker 1: tries to mind laughter from the idea of a guy
Speaker 1: becoming the first lady and concludes with a happy ending
Speaker 1: in which the president resigns because she gets pregnant. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Wow, that's like fucking nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 9: That's like that fucking Alley g Ship where he would say,
Speaker 9: aren't you worried like if Hillary Clinton becomes president that
Speaker 9: she's gonna fall in love with? Saddam was saying, oh
Speaker 9: my god, those interviews did exactly those interviews he did
Speaker 9: as Ali, g Oh my god, those early ones where
Speaker 9: he interviews like Henry kissing jer Ship are so fucking good. Yea,
Speaker 9: but yeah, that that that whole thing is like there
Speaker 9: are there are the people who control everything, sadly are
Speaker 9: just a bunch of graduates from Harvard and Yale, mostly lawyers.
Speaker 9: They have these secret clubs and they're all white men,
Speaker 9: you know, and so it is, it's it's reflecting just that.
Speaker 9: I mean, this for me was like a moment. Maybe
Speaker 9: a lot of people knew about it, but I mean
Speaker 9: it was on CNN, so a lot of people knew
Speaker 9: about it. But it was right after they were starting
Speaker 9: to call for Joe Biden to resign, which I was
Speaker 9: down with, Like I understood the idea certainly after that debate,
Speaker 9: it made sense to me that was debate was like
Speaker 9: I had to turn it off.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: It was like when he said he beat Medicare, I
Speaker 9: was like, okay, we're going you know what I mean,
Speaker 9: you know, and I looked from goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you beat medicare you beat the hell out of it?
Speaker 1: Whatever that means, you know.
Speaker 9: But at that moment, I was like, Okay, this is
Speaker 9: a problem. But I did not like, well, I don't
Speaker 9: think anyone like George Clooney weang in, you know, a
Speaker 9: white male you know.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 9: And this was a panel on CNN about this decision,
Speaker 9: and and I just did not like the tone of
Speaker 9: these insiders, Like, forget about Carsal, he's always a fucking dick, but.
Speaker 1: Also he's a guy.
Speaker 9: What is his fucking qualification? Why do they always put
Speaker 9: that white man who's just incredibly not thoughtful obviously, you know,
Speaker 9: and they constantly put them on because they're just like,
Speaker 9: here's our rolodex and people that we have to comment
Speaker 9: on this ship. And it's all white dudes who went
Speaker 9: to Yale and went to Harvard.
Speaker 1: It's the same club.
Speaker 9: And you know, like some white guy just says, hey,
Speaker 9: guess what whole country, we're swapping out the president because
Speaker 9: me and Larry Summers and whoever the fuck else and
Speaker 9: John Podesta or whatever decided he's.
Speaker 1: Got to Chatzenberg.
Speaker 3: But it's it's also interesting to see like how the
Speaker 3: media has gone from like before they're.
Speaker 1: Like, don't you talk shit about Joe Biden?
Speaker 3: Like is there are a lot of pundits too whop
Speaker 3: Like we're like it's gonna be him. Maybe they're gonna
Speaker 3: have a virtual role call to like solidify the nomination
Speaker 3: and and really telling people that were like I don't
Speaker 3: like is this the best we can do? Like do
Speaker 3: we need to consider other things? And then suddenly like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, we love Kamala. This is the greatest
Speaker 3: thing that has ever happened. And you're like, what last
Speaker 3: week it was this and now it's this. And I
Speaker 3: get that the the enthusiasm changes in your reporting on that,
Speaker 3: but it's interesting to see how quickly, like the punditry
Speaker 3: goes from you know, one one extreme to the other, like.
Speaker 1: And yeah, right, okay, we're on board with this and
Speaker 1: always were. It turns out yeah.
Speaker 9: Right, And it turns out like, I mean, well, if
Speaker 9: it was an honest discussion, which cable news is useless for,
Speaker 9: or any any you know, thing that's funded by advertising
Speaker 9: is completely you know, and often often these outlets are
Speaker 9: out outright by billionaires. They just will not talk about
Speaker 9: when one party has got jd Vance who's part of
Speaker 9: a secret society of Roman Catholics who thinks fucking liberals
Speaker 9: are demons that need to be basically killed. You know,
Speaker 9: that's what they're pitching on that far right religious stuff
Speaker 9: that there's this the devil is real and it's liberals.
Speaker 9: So like, when you've got one side doing that, you
Speaker 9: know it's still will vote for whatever. That's the discussion.
Speaker 9: You don't you know the fact that it's even like, yeah,
Speaker 9: I don't care if it's Biden, I don't care. I'll
Speaker 9: vote for Biden because the other you know, I just
Speaker 9: I just felt like the discussion was like, yes, like
Speaker 9: either way, we're voting against authoritarianism, right, you know what
Speaker 9: I mean? Right, David Axelrod, this is not time for
Speaker 9: you to show off. Why are you showing off? Why
Speaker 9: are you on here with an attitude? This is not
Speaker 9: a time for attitude, you dope?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you need to have attitude with one person,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Maybe like talk to him with attitude, but.
Speaker 9: Maybe and Joe Biden, he was like he wasn't trying
Speaker 9: to hear that. He doesn't know, he doesn't he doesn't
Speaker 9: even know what he was saying you have to drop
Speaker 9: out of the race?
Speaker 1: What race?
Speaker 5: It?
Speaker 1: Really? It was? It was the debate and also the
Speaker 1: like five to ten subsequent interviews and appearances where it's
Speaker 1: just like, wow, well, yeah it was really bad.
Speaker 9: I was just like he was too old to begin with.
Speaker 9: I knew it all all along.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anything but people like David Axelrod, like they
Speaker 3: it's easier to get mad at Joe Biden than themselves.
Speaker 3: Who are the people who put, like, you know, reinforced
Speaker 3: this reelection campaign for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I tried to just like force it through because.
Speaker 3: There was there was no real primary, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like they really they were like, broll, don't
Speaker 3: even fucking try and step to the fucking incumbent. And
Speaker 3: I get that that's not a great look usually, but
Speaker 3: when that, given the age and what he said about
Speaker 3: it being a bridge to like a new generation, you'd
Speaker 3: kind of be like, voters were clearly down for someone
Speaker 3: even before he announced that he was going for reelection.
Speaker 3: So like, when I see those people be like, you know,
Speaker 3: Joe really needs to subsides, like dude, you are the
Speaker 3: people telling before telling people not to worry, shut the
Speaker 3: fuck up, Joe Biden is fine, and now you're switching
Speaker 3: it up to be like he's got to go. It's like, well, dude,
Speaker 3: you were you were the fucking person propping this up,
Speaker 3: So don't act. Don't act news.
Speaker 1: That's what I.
Speaker 9: Think so too about David Axlerod it was like, what
Speaker 9: you weren't aware, like everybody else was that this guy
Speaker 9: was old until like now, all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 9: an emergency. It was an emergency the whole time.
Speaker 1: Then everybody else knew. It seems to be suspected. But
Speaker 1: you like the new Yeah.
Speaker 9: You're supposed to be the Democrat, You're supposed to be
Speaker 9: the good guys, and this is this is what you're
Speaker 9: you know, you're trying to like make everybody feel like
Speaker 9: insane because everybody knew this that we just accepted it
Speaker 9: because we were told we had to. You know, we
Speaker 9: just aren't voting for fucking Trump. People, get it. Stop talking.
Speaker 9: We're not idiots. That's the other thing is like they
Speaker 9: just think these people think that the general public, the
Speaker 9: whole general public, everybody is a goddamn idiot. Yeah, and
Speaker 9: it's not fucking true. It is not true at all.
Speaker 9: Everyone I talked to who's you know, cartoonishly what you
Speaker 9: would assume is, you know whatever, I'm not gonna even
Speaker 9: it doesn't But I but when I did those like
Speaker 9: man on the street reports that talk to people like
Speaker 9: at bus stops and ship and like, it's just like
Speaker 9: every person who's down and out that you figure, oh
Speaker 9: that versus down and out because they're dumb. No, they're
Speaker 9: not down and out because they're dumb. They're so smart.
Speaker 9: They're just down and out. Yeah, anyway, they're unlucky. You
Speaker 9: live in a like lottery system. We live in a
Speaker 9: fucking real world, open air casino.
Speaker 3: Actually I should be fair to axl Rod because he
Speaker 3: was he was a little bit more consistent with saying
Speaker 3: Biden shouldn't run.
Speaker 1: But that was like at the end of last year.
Speaker 3: But again and I and I guess I act the
Speaker 3: axel Rod aside of it. There are many people that
Speaker 3: were part of the established.
Speaker 9: Are you friends with David Axelrod?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 9: Are you friends with David Axelrod?
Speaker 1: I heard Axelrod fucked a couch. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean he's my father in law's picking up up little.
Speaker 1: I mean David, he likes to be called David. Actually
Speaker 1: but I do just want it. Just something you said,
Speaker 1: Chris that like, yes, this idea of there's a lot
Speaker 1: of like tropes you grow up thinking are true because
Speaker 1: you see them in movies, and you know one of
Speaker 1: them that like other people are stupid, or that the
Speaker 1: vast majority of people are stupid turns out not to
Speaker 1: be true. Like, the more you learn about the world,
Speaker 1: the more you're like, no, they're just like a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of people that get written off are just people.
Speaker 1: The more you read and learn about the world, the
Speaker 1: more it becomes clear that the one like theory that
Speaker 1: you always see when in movies and when you're a kid,
Speaker 1: that there is a small group of white guys who
Speaker 1: make all the decisions together and freeze everyone else out,
Speaker 1: that one is like it seems like the most far fetched.
Speaker 1: That's the one, that's the one that we've been right
Speaker 1: about all along. Like the wealthiest one percent of the
Speaker 1: global population, it was just reported accumulated forty two trillion
Speaker 1: dollars in the past ten years. Like they're getting so
Speaker 1: much richer, so much faster, Like in the ten years
Speaker 1: since we started talking about the one percent being a problem,
Speaker 1: they've gotten so much richer, so much faster, and.
Speaker 9: That's why it's hard to get out of bed in
Speaker 9: the morning. I mean, honestly, it's like, you know, it
Speaker 9: seems overwhelming, right, but I just like made a deal
Speaker 9: with myself.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. I was just deal with myself.
Speaker 9: Oh good, I can't wait to hear about this.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be quiet.
Speaker 9: But no, I just think that like I made I
Speaker 9: made it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: I really have been feeling lately, you know, really like
Speaker 9: especially because I write the column and I do podcasts
Speaker 9: and stuff. I was just on Zach Bends's podcast Grinding
Speaker 9: to a Halt the other day, which was really fun.
Speaker 1: I don't just thought of that one.
Speaker 9: I was and yeah, and uh, but but I you know,
Speaker 9: I think about these things a lot, and I don't
Speaker 9: know how to I'm realizing that I'm not changing it.
Speaker 9: I'm not changing I'm not gonna change it. I can't
Speaker 9: change what that cabal of white men are gonna do
Speaker 9: with the candidates. But I can like stay alive and
Speaker 9: not despair because somehow I can be of help. I
Speaker 9: know it, and I don't know how it looks, but
Speaker 9: I will remain, you know, And I think about all
Speaker 9: the all the other countries that have had all these
Speaker 9: horrible things happen. Fucking Palestine, you know, just like those
Speaker 9: people are still getting up in the fucking morning and
Speaker 9: trying to live a life, and it is absolutely horrible
Speaker 9: what people have to go through, and I you know,
Speaker 9: I just am trying to remember that. I guess the
Speaker 9: deal with myself is that I'm going to try and
Speaker 9: keep showing up, even though I'm not sure how to
Speaker 9: how to help. I guess that's the point. But I
Speaker 9: know that waking up helps if you're if you're not
Speaker 9: a bad person, just being president, just being president on
Speaker 9: the damn earth as a good person is is inspiring
Speaker 9: to other people who will then hang around to we
Speaker 9: all just have to hang around for each other and
Speaker 9: be like, oh, well that's guys, We're all still here,
Speaker 9: so I guess we need to stay, you know. I mean,
Speaker 9: just like there's something about just and that was my
Speaker 9: under overrated was just going to be that saying of
Speaker 9: putting on the oxygen mask on yourself, like before, but yeah,
Speaker 9: like you gotta do, you gotta do the thing. You
Speaker 9: got to put it on the child afterwards, because I
Speaker 9: feel everybody's like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think put it on at all. I'd be like that.
Speaker 9: So they just putting the oxygen mask on themselves and
Speaker 9: that's it. That there's a second part to that anyway,
Speaker 9: but that's what I do think that that that's it.
Speaker 9: Like I mean, I'm not sure. This is all like
Speaker 9: a crazy situation, you know, and uh, you know, I
Speaker 9: just want to keep showing up, which is which is
Speaker 9: also some modi modified slogan for some other organization.
Speaker 1: I can't think of keep showing up something like that
Speaker 1: and just doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist.
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