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Speaker 1: I feel like I say that in the past.

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Speaker 2: Why are you laughing? I didn't you see something stupid?

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Speaker 2: I was going to it, but I was like, you

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Speaker 3: Steve Nash is a pastor's gun.

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Speaker 4: No, but that's a great point. Yeah, why was he

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Speaker 4: your favorite? You didn't emulate? Emulate at all?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was.

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Speaker 5: Always like smaller everybody back then because I played up.

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Speaker 5: I played a year or two up.

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Speaker 4: So when did you stop passing.

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Speaker 3: When you were on my team in college? Yeah, shan't

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Speaker 6: My vein and all of this came not my love

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Speaker 4: All right, what's up everybody? And welcome to another episode

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Speaker 4: of The Roommates Show, presented by Bett and Jem. Got

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Speaker 4: JB here with me. We got Matt virtual because he

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Speaker 4: had some technical difficulties with flights and joining us today

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Speaker 4: we have the six time All Star and former New

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Speaker 4: York nick A maristadamar Man, So we appreciate it for

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Speaker 4: tuning in a Mario. Also, you with Matt, you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's crazy, crazy bro got shut down.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, La Guardia was you did not want to be

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. You know, it's what forty

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Speaker 8: You guys are in Miami, so yeah, we're not We're

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we are in hoodies, but it's about probably eighty here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice out today.

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Speaker 7: Man. I'm usually by myself.

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Speaker 1: I'm usually by myself out here, but now it's I

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Speaker 7: It's not it's not one on you know, one on

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Speaker 3: Two on two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, on Thursday of the sixty six degree.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to the post. By the way, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm going to the post man.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, gotch.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I got met you got it.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have We're gonna have to double in the post.

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Speaker 7: And then they just wish that.

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Speaker 4: That would be a good game plan.

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Speaker 7: Mh.

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Speaker 3: It's the only game that we have.

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Speaker 1: So we are supposed to get started with a toast

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Speaker 1: of eighteen hundred tequila. Unfortunately, Amar and I do not

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Speaker 1: have any eighteen hundred to kill here, so you guys

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Speaker 3: Let's go take you.

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Speaker 4: Cheers, cheers, Cheers to a great season.

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Speaker 1: So, Mari, you've had a lot of moments in your

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Speaker 8: I mean I was I was straight out of high school,

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Speaker 8: And my rookie year, I was battling against Yamin who

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Speaker 3: So it was a challenge, but we made it happen.

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Speaker 7: So three you were. That was the year before the

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Speaker 8: I was the first play in history to get Rookie

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Speaker 5: Because I think this whole I saw Melo talking about this.

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Speaker 5: I feel like NAL's mess up a lot of stuff

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Speaker 8: Honestly, it would have It would have depended on the

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Speaker 1: So you basically manufactured your own NIL situation.

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, technically, I mean I couldn't really enroll for

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Speaker 7: Cheers, thanks to eighteen hundred as.

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Speaker 4: The world most awarded tequila. Eighteen hundred is obsessed with taste,

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Speaker 4: and so are we on the room, may chill, you've

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Speaker 1: Eighteen hundred introduced the world's first ayeho tequila in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty seven, setting the standard for age tequila. So they

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Speaker 1: know that good taste does not come overnight, and we

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Speaker 1: know that perfection takes time and practice. Just ask Josh

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Speaker 1: chairs the book, and the best cocktails are the ones

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Speaker 1: perfectly crafted that include eighteen hundred tequila. You know what

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Speaker 4: To taste better than a touch of smokiness of repisodo

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Speaker 1: Let's take a toast with the repo to the next season.

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Speaker 1: That's far been a great first half and ready for

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Speaker 3: Cheers.

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Speaker 4: Sure it was nice. We'll hit the smogan very smooth,

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Speaker 4: very very smooth, Like pick up a bottle and try

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Speaker 1: Com talk about your your your process of declaring for

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Speaker 4: Do you think mentally it helped you because I feel

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Speaker 1: It's ten eleven pm, finish up media ice bath you

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Speaker 7: What fifteen twenty minutes again?

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Speaker 8: And I wasn't driving much, man, I had a main

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Speaker 7: Josh had him in New Orleans.

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Speaker 4: Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, they you want to talk

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Speaker 1: The funniest thing about this road is that, well it's

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, he he he likes me. And that

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Speaker 4: He's your kind of player. Da da dah. You know

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Speaker 4: I hated him. Great person though, one of the one

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Speaker 7: Your favorite coach?

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Speaker 8: My favorite coach, my favorite My favorite coach I've had

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Speaker 8: was probably, I mean Alvia Gentry's up there for sure.

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Speaker 8: Mike D'Antoni obviously one of my favorite coaches of all

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Speaker 8: I'm sixty, I'm sixteen, two forty five man, Shack three

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Speaker 3: Players every night.

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Speaker 8: The four spot dirt nowinsky you had to bring it

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Speaker 4: I wonder if people can talk about our our generation

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Speaker 4: Derk Jamaine and he is just like, damn, this is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder.

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Speaker 4: I wonder in like fifteen years of like, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: had to go again. I'm not going obviously I'm not

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Speaker 4: in there, But.

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Speaker 3: Who's all right?

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Speaker 5: Who would you say in your career you had to

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Speaker 5: gone against? You Tomorrow, Rosen, Bron, Tomoro, Rosen, Josh.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it would be top five? He

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about you. I'm talkingout you.

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Speaker 4: You've played like, let me in terms Bron, James Harden.

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Speaker 4: Probably I'll probably put Tomorrow up there. I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: think who else? Who else was cooking me? Uh, I

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Speaker 4: You know, I have to like think of like, who

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Speaker 5: So My next question is My next question is who.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say anyone was cooking you, but who

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they all gave me problems, bro, I

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Speaker 8: mean it was all those guys I think. You know,

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Speaker 8: we always had an even battle, right. It was like

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Speaker 3: Dirt.

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Speaker 8: I couldn't guard Dirt because you can't be physical with Dirk, right,

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Speaker 8: these things and if he flails or you know, the

442
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Speaker 8: file so I would get in fire trouble garden Dirk.

443
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Speaker 8: So I put Sean on Dirt couldn't guard him much,

444
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 8: and he always trailed for the three as a big

445
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Speaker 8: wind was trained to run back to the paint located

446
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,880
Speaker 8: you who your garden, and then rotate out. But Dirt

447
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 8: was one of those guys who would trail for the

448
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Speaker 8: three every time. And it's like oh Man laid on

449
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Speaker 8: the on the close out and Jermaine O'Neill lowkey was

450
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Speaker 8: hard to guard. Jament O'Neill had post work, footwork, he

451
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Speaker 8: was strong on the inside and so and you know

452
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Speaker 8: one player is underrated that never get talked about that

453
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Speaker 8: was I couldn't guard. It was Andre Kerlinko. Really he

454
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Speaker 8: would forget I get it. Yeah, yeah, he was a

455
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Speaker 8: Swiss army knife. He did everything and he never stopped moving.

456
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Speaker 8: So when I'm guarding him, my head's on a swivel.

457
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Speaker 8: So I'm watching the ball and I'm looking at my defender.

458
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Speaker 8: But as soon as I turned my head on him,

459
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Speaker 8: he's gone on. Then once I relocate and he's gone again.

460
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Speaker 8: It's like it was. It was tough. It was a

461
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Speaker 8: tough match up for me. So again I put Sean

462
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Speaker 8: on him, especially in Utah, and it was already hard

463
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Speaker 8: to breathe.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly.

465
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Speaker 1: So Sean, like when you when there were matchups that

466
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Speaker 1: didn't make sense for you between you guys, who was

467
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Speaker 1: sort of if I could take it, I will.

468
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Speaker 7: If if you know we could put Sewan on you,

469
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Speaker 7: we will.

470
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Speaker 1: Like it feels like you sort of had every type

471
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Speaker 1: of player covered right between them?

472
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean between between Sewn Mary

473
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Speaker 8: and myself. We would match up accordingly right a lot

474
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Speaker 8: of times with players who are real power forwards and centers.

475
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Speaker 8: I got them right. I locked them down. I try,

476
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Speaker 8: I try my best, locked them down. And you got

477
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Speaker 8: players who are very versatile, who's always on the move,

478
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Speaker 8: and that's shown type of game, that's type player he

479
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 8: was anyways, and I put him on them.

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Speaker 3: JB.

481
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Speaker 7: Was was Steven ash your favorite favorite point qard of

482
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Speaker 7: all time?

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

484
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Speaker 7: I feel like I say that in the past.

485
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Speaker 3: What are you laughing?

486
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Speaker 9: Mm hmm.

487
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Speaker 2: I didn't you see something stupid? I was going to it,

488
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Speaker 2: but I was like, you know what, I'm gonna let

489
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Speaker 2: you live.

490
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Speaker 3: Received nations, the pastors, my guard. I was about to

491
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Speaker 3: say no.

492
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Speaker 4: But that's a great point. Yeah, why was he your favorite?

493
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Speaker 4: You didn't like you didn't emulate, emulate at all.

494
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Speaker 3: Well, I was.

495
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Speaker 5: Always like smaller everybody back then because I played up.

496
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Speaker 5: I played a year or two up and so third

497
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Speaker 5: team was like my favorite number.

498
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Speaker 4: Okay, so when did you stop passing.

499
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Speaker 3: When you were on my team in college? Yeah?

500
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Speaker 4: You didn't pass in high school? Connor did he pass

501
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Speaker 4: in high school. Okay, he passed to Connor, anyone.

502
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Speaker 5: Else, Yeah, Matt Johnson, Parker Nichols, mhm.

503
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Speaker 4: Okay. So you're saying you got to be a selfish

504
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Speaker 4: player once you got the Villanova Yeah, oh well that's nice.

505
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Speaker 4: This is why we didn't like you.

506
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Speaker 3: We won.

507
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Speaker 4: I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Not doing it?

508
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Speaker 3: How was it playing with Steve?

509
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Speaker 8: I was great man the first the first year in Phoenix,

510
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Speaker 8: we had Steph Marlborough the point guard, right, and we

511
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Speaker 8: had we had we had a young nucleus. Also, we

512
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Speaker 8: had you know, Joe Johnson, we had Sean myself was

513
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Speaker 8: just drafted to the to the team. So when we

514
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Speaker 8: traded everyone that following year, we traded Sean, we traded Penny,

515
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Speaker 8: we traded Googleada. We traded like six players and then

516
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Speaker 8: we only played with maybe eight players for that rest

517
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Speaker 8: of that season. My second year, until we went into

518
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Speaker 8: a recruiting frenzy. We tried to fail. We're going to

519
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Speaker 8: bring in the play and match up with us. At

520
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Speaker 8: the time, you had Shack available and so, yeah, Kobe

521
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Speaker 8: was flirting with like free agency and and so.

522
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Speaker 3: And Steve Nash is available as well.

523
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Speaker 8: He was also like about to resign with Dallas, and

524
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Speaker 8: we flew into Dallas and it with me, the owners

525
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Speaker 8: the GMS, we all flew out privately, flew out the

526
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Speaker 8: Dallas and we sat down with the ownership of the

527
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Speaker 8: Mavericks and they were having conversations about, you know, who

528
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Speaker 8: to sign, like can we sign Steve and the Dallas

529
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Speaker 8: marias trying to sign Shack, so Shaq had them like

530
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Speaker 8: in limbo. We were like, all right, well Steve, we

531
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Speaker 8: want you, bro, Like, come with us. You know what

532
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Speaker 8: I'm saying. We're not sure what Dallas's going to do,

533
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Speaker 8: whether they signed Shock or not. We want you. And

534
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Speaker 8: because they were still somewhat in limbo and Shaq was

535
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Speaker 8: kind of playing both sides, Steve became available for us

536
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Speaker 8: and then once we once we want Steve agreed to

537
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Speaker 8: play with us to come back to Phoenix that upcoming

538
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Speaker 8: training camp. We started practicing and always kept myself from shape.

539
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Speaker 8: I made sure I was in shape before training camp.

540
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Speaker 8: I didn't use training camp to get in shape. And

541
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Speaker 8: so once we started training camp, if you dropped the

542
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Speaker 8: pass off to me, I hit the rim. It was like, man,

543
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 8: this is gonna be special. And once that that training came, happened.

544
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Speaker 8: We started communicating back and forth and figuring out how

545
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 8: to play and wear. I like the ball and how

546
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 8: he passes it, and I had the hands to catch

547
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 8: the basketball. It was just like the chemistry was automatic.

548
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 8: And they continued throughout the rest of our career playing

549
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Speaker 8: to the other for sure.

550
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Speaker 1: Is it typical for a player to be as involved

551
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Speaker 1: in recruiting as you were.

552
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Speaker 8: I wasn't really asking for it, Yeah, right, I was.

553
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Speaker 8: I was just a twenty one year old kid out

554
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Speaker 8: of high school who was a potential all star. Of

555
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Speaker 8: my second year, I won Rookie of Day, I won

556
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Speaker 8: Rookie of the Year, I got Rookie Sophomore Game MVP.

557
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Speaker 8: I had a pretty good first two years. But they

558
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Speaker 8: saw me as a franchise player and they wanted me

559
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Speaker 8: to be involved in who was going to play with

560
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Speaker 8: me in Phoenix and and that's and that's and that's.

561
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Speaker 8: I didn't ask for it, but that's how it happened.

562
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Speaker 5: Can you talk about the their their battles with the

563
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Speaker 5: Lakers and the playoffs like it was like what two

564
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: or three years in a row?

565
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 3: Maybe four? Yeah?

566
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 8: It was tough, man, because because Kobe, you can't really

567
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 8: game plan for him, right, you know we have we

568
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 8: have a Scott and report for Kobe, and it's like,

569
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 8: try to contain falls into his left. We'll send a

570
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 8: double team from the baseline, if it's in the post,

571
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 8: or from the top we send we send the double

572
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Speaker 8: team from the wing if you catch the ball center court,

573
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 8: you know, top of the key. Other than that, Cob

574
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 8: knew how to avoid all double teams. He knew he

575
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 8: had all the counter moves for every double team that

576
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Speaker 8: may come his way. So we really couldn't stop Kobe.

577
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: We had.

578
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Speaker 8: All we can do is try to contain him, make

579
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 8: it tough for him, get into his body on his shot.

580
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 8: Small little details helped maybe help change his shot a bit.

581
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 8: And then for me, I had a battle also at

582
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Speaker 8: the end one year you gotta go out. Shock was

583
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 8: shacking Kobe, and then Shack left, and then we took

584
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Speaker 8: over Phoenix took over the West. And then somehow they

585
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 8: got Paulausol and then they got Andrew bying them, and

586
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 8: then they had lamar Odham. So I'm on the inside,

587
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 8: playing small as a five, got a guard La lamar

588
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 8: Odum sixteen got a guard Andrew by them seven to one,

589
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 8: and Parker's all seven to one, and it's me on

590
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 8: the inside, me and Sean. I'm on the side center,

591
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 8: you know. So we battled every every single year. Every

592
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 8: year we battled, the Lakers always had a little bit

593
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 8: of an edge because they had the right players and

594
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 8: good coaching with Phil Jackson, and then Kobe was was like,

595
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 8: you know, he knew how to win and he knew

596
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 8: how to win, which he learned playing with Shaq one

597
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 8: of those three championships. He had an edge on us

598
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 8: because he knew how to win and we were trying

599
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 8: to learn how to win.

600
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Speaker 3: So it was tough playing against the Lakers for sure.

601
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Speaker 7: How many years did you overlap with Dirk in Dallas?

602
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Speaker 5: Just one his last year this one. Yeah, he could

603
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 5: barely walk. I played with dirt. That man was he

604
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 5: was I but like, but watching him in that at

605
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 5: that age and in year twenty one, you can see

606
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 5: what made him great. Like obviously he wasn't like the

607
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 5: player he was before, but like him, he had surgery

608
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 5: of the off season to kind of get his ankle

609
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 5: back together, and he was like watching his like preparation

610
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 5: and his work ethic, trying to get back to where

611
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 5: he was to be on the court. I'm like, damn,

612
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 5: I can imagine like what this dude was doing when

613
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: he was in his prime. So like that's like, that's

614
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 5: like that's what I got from like my rookie years,

615
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 5: like seeing him and seeing how much he put into

616
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 5: it even though he knew like he was it was

617
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: probably his last year, like it was kind of it

618
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 5: kind of shows you and tells you how hard you

619
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 5: have to work, regardless of where you're in and regardless

620
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 5: of like where your role is on the team. Like

621
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 5: it's just it's all about how hard you work.

622
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Speaker 4: And absolutely Mark what would get thought when you when

623
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 4: you realized you were a game traded to New York.

624
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 8: So that off season we had we played against the

625
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 8: Lakers in that playoffs, and I think that's when Kobe

626
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 8: shot the app off from the three in our tests

627
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 8: let a run piece cause it and scored at the

628
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 8: buzzart and we lost to the Lakers in the in

629
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 8: the I want to say Western Finals or the semi finals.

630
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 8: But we had a great run and we had really

631
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 8: good chemistry. We had Grant Hill, which is one of

632
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 8: my favorite players. I played with Jay Richardson. We had

633
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 8: a solid team, and I wanted to stay in Phoenix.

634
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 8: You know, I had I sat down with the owner,

635
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 8: the previous owner of the team then, and we were

636
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 8: just trying to negotiate a max contract and get to

637
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 8: stay and done so we can go back at it again.

638
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 8: And he was like, you know, he wasn't willing to

639
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 8: do it. He tried to put me on the contract

640
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 8: where if I play you know, fifty sixty eight games,

641
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 8: then you then you know, certain certain tangibles can happen.

642
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 8: And I was like, well, what happens if I played,

643
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 8: you know, sixty five games and were blowing and we're

644
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 8: blowing teams out, you know, if I don't play X

645
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 8: amount of minutes for that you know. It was just

646
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 8: a lot of back and forth. And I was like,

647
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 8: I'm the team leading scorer, leading rebounder, leading shot blocker,

648
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 8: and we're in the Western Conference and we find the

649
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 8: finals almost and we're having this conversation. He said, I

650
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 8: got I got guys that have come in and replace you. Like, WHOA, Okay,

651
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 8: he went to side he knew Turculu like, come on that,

652
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 8: it makes a lot of sense. So I'm like, all right,

653
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 8: I'm in the free agency market. And so as soon

654
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 8: as twelve o'clock struck the Miami, he called me. Pat

655
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 8: Riley called me right away. At twelve oh one, the

656
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 8: Brooklyn Nets called me. A lot of teams started calling

657
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 8: right away, and I wanted to go to New York

658
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 8: because I was raised in New York right when I

659
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 8: was a kid.

660
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: I moved to New York in third grade.

661
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 8: I lived in Port Jervis for five years, so I

662
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 8: was always in New York. My family, my mom Auntie,

663
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 8: lived in New York, and so I wanted to go

664
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Speaker 8: to New York. And then the beautiful thing about that

665
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 8: was Mike D'Antoni, who I played for in Phoenix, was

666
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 8: the head coach. I'm all right, well, this makes sense,

667
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 8: like the chemistry is already there. I'm not concerned with

668
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 8: the coaching staff. I already know what Mike D'Antoni brings

669
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 8: to the table. And the team was struggling when I

670
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 8: first got there, but I knew my talents and it

671
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 8: also allowed me to really display my full talent, right,

672
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 8: And so that was my thought process. I sat down

673
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 8: with ownership and I was like, you know what, Yeah,

674
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 8: let's get it done. And that's when I sounded the Knicks.

675
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Speaker 5: I have a question, since you're kind of you're there,

676
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 5: you're the previous generation of basketball player, right, is today's

677
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: game better or worse.

678
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: Than what do you play? Then? I think the game is.

679
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 8: Better in a way of you know, just the just

680
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 8: the the media and the marketing and and the availability

681
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 8: of the game. The game to be even broader now

682
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 8: than when I played. Right, we were we were doing

683
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 8: things where we were trying to make the game internationally.

684
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 8: Who would travel to China, would travel different places across

685
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 8: Europe just to make sure the game was exposed around

686
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 8: the world. But now with all these different media outlets

687
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 8: and things things, the game is seen everywhere. As far

688
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 8: as actual skill set of the game, I think a

689
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 8: lot of players are very talented and still.

690
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: Have high skill level.

691
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 8: I think the only differences is that we were probably

692
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 8: very competitive in our days. Right Like, I wasn't like

693
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 8: me and Garnett wasn't friends. Me and Tim Donkey, we

694
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 8: wasn't friends. We wasn't like. It wasn't like we're trying

695
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 8: to shake hands in high five. We're trying to. I'm

696
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 8: trying to I'm trying to take his head off, you

697
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. I'm attacking the basket and you know,

698
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 8: and there's there's no you know. But after the game

699
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 8: it was all respectful play. It wasn't like we were

700
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 8: enemies now. But after the game we will all tap

701
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 8: it up and take the game and have good sportsmanship.

702
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 8: But once we cross the lines, it was it was

703
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 8: it was a battle, you know. And I think that

704
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 8: maybe a little bit of something the game is missing,

705
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 8: just that, just that particular you know, willingness to like

706
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 8: go at you and the best player guard the best player.

707
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 8: I'm guarding Garnet, I'm guarding Tim Duncan. I'm guarding I

708
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 8: wasn't guarding Dirk. I couldn't guard Dirk. I'm guarding Jamaine O'Neill,

709
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. And they guarded me, and

710
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 8: we're going at it back and forth, like if he

711
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 8: scored me, ay Nash right here, back back at him,

712
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying, Like that competitive spirit. I

713
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 8: think it is a little bit different in today's game

714
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 8: than it was back when I played.

715
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 7: Is Garnett as good of a shit talker as they say, is.

716
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 8: He's a good of a player as it was, even

717
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 8: a shit talker. Garnett wasn't an easy left bro. Garnett

718
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 8: had all the moves you can think of in the post,

719
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 8: you know, and he's rebounding and he's blocking shots, and

720
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 8: he's defending and he's competitive, right, And a lot of

721
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 8: times when people talk trash, you think, oh, we're just

722
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 8: talking trash just because you know. No, if you can

723
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 8: talk trash and back it up, then that's what's a

724
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 8: different level, right. Yeah.

725
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like he's the obviously phenomenal player.

726
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: I feel like he's the guy that you hear who

727
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: always took it to another level with the ship thought

728
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: like just you know, say crazy things.

729
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 7: But who do you.

730
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Speaker 1: Think is the closest comparison in the NBA today the

731
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: type of player you were, who else closely resembles your game?

732
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Speaker 8: I think when I spoke to when I spoke to

733
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Speaker 8: an old coach of mind, Tim Gergerich, right, who was

734
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 8: with me in Phoenix and he went over to Milwaukee,

735
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 8: and this is this is when I was still playing,

736
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 8: and after the game, Girk came to me with GI Honest,

737
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 8: it was like, stat, this kid remind me of you, man,

738
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 8: and so me and me and Jiannis at the time,

739
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 8: I wish him luck and all these type of things.

740
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 8: And as I look at his game, he has that

741
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 8: he he has that tenacity also where it goes where

742
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 8: he's attacking the rim with that type of tenacity. Right, So,

743
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 8: if I had to compare a person in today's game

744
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 8: to like how I played, or similar to how I played,

745
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 8: I would say, you're honest, I have one question.

746
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 4: Just just totally totally random.

747
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 3: Right, I should have a question too.

748
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: I love wine, and you were doing these wine baths.

749
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: I just got to know, like what what wine were

750
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 4: you using for these wine baths?

751
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: Oh boy? And then I was coming the wine bass.

752
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 8: The wine bass was was a luxury thing, right, it was.

753
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: It was.

754
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 8: It was something that I would indulge in just on

755
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 8: the day off and kick back and relax and and

756
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 8: the wine was provided for the for the bath. It

757
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 8: wasn't like I was bringing my own wine. So it

758
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 8: was it was. It was provided for the bath. And

759
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 8: it was like taking a hot like a hot plunge basically,

760
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 8: but with wine and water. You sit down and relax

761
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 8: and they bring you a separate glass of wine. Let's

762
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 8: add the separate and there because some people thought you

763
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 8: drink your own back water type of situation, you know,

764
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 8: And so you'll sit down and you sit down and

765
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 8: the chill, drink some wine and just relax.

766
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: And and that's what it was. I took a selfie.

767
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 8: When I took the selfie, that's when it became That's

768
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 8: when it became viral.

769
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: Would you push okay in today's world? Would you post

770
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: that selfie today?

771
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 7: Uh?

772
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 3: Because I feel like Instagram back then was a totally

773
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: different different it was.

774
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 8: It was, it was, it is different now, But I

775
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 8: still I think I still would. I think I still would.

776
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 8: You know, it has a little sex appeal to the

777
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 8: ladies loved it, you know what I'm saying. So I

778
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 8: think I still put it out there. So my question

779
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 8: before fand question is why didn't you help? Why didn't

780
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 8: you help Shane Battery up? You know, It's funny, man.

781
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 8: You know that game we were we were I think

782
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 8: we were down or we were close to being down

783
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 8: or something like that. And when I dunked the basketball,

784
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 8: I looked up and I realized I fouled out. So

785
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: when I realized I filed out after I had already

786
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 8: had my hand down to pick him up, I'm like, wait,

787
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 8: I just filed out. I'm not picking you. I'm not

788
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 8: helping you up out of the game. So when I

789
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 8: realized I filed out, that's when I was like, I'm

790
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 8: not helping this guy out of the game.

791
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 3: And that's what happened. Oh man, that's an all time

792
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: Clipper out there.

793
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 7: Your charge.

794
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 3: Yeah he drew a charge. He drew charge.

795
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

796
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

797
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 3: I called him on the post, he drew the charge.

798
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: I dunked it.

799
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 8: Went to help him up, and then I realized I

800
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 8: fouled out, and that's when I was like, no, I'm

801
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 8: not helping you up.

802
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: I feel like he was either he was really good

803
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: at drawing charges or that play is just like, no.

804
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 8: He was great at That's what he did the most

805
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 8: is Offentially it was a defensive player, but it was

806
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 8: great at drawing charges for sure.

807
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 7: Jbu emulated that part of his game.

808
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: Uh, maybe started saying battier charge charge calls. Somorrow we

809
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: have some fans submitted questions powered by AT and T

810
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: for you.

811
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 9: I have two questions, Amari, what did you like most

812
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 9: about playing with New York during the nixt tape and

813
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 9: probably some of the early days when you went on

814
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 9: the nine game win streak. Was Fraeman Felton, then you

815
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 9: know Landry of Fields and those dudes, like how was

816
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 9: those times? But especially Knicks tape and how do you

817
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 9: feel about the Knicks team now and where do you

818
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 9: feel like we can be a lot better at?

819
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, nickstap era was a fun era, Man, I really

820
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 8: enjoyed the era because I played with players I always

821
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 8: wanted to play with. Right, I played with Baron Davis,

822
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 8: who I looked up as like one of the best

823
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 8: point guards that came out of California, and I always

824
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 8: wanted to play with him because he was a past first,

825
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 8: kind of a no look past guy, So to play

826
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 8: with him was great. And then we alsously had j R. Smith,

827
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 8: we had Tyson Chandler, we had Mellow, we had we

828
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 8: had a cool team. We had shamp and we had

829
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 8: a lot of good veteran players. We had Mike Woodson

830
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 8: as our head coach, and so the chemistry was great.

831
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 8: We all got along, we all kind of hung out together.

832
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 8: It was it was a fun team to play. And

833
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 8: that's why the Knixt tape, that's why we kind of

834
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 8: have that. We dubbed that name of that group the

835
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 8: Knixt Tape, because that's what it was. Man, it was

836
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 8: like it was like a rock star type of vibe

837
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 8: everywhere we went. And this year's team, this year team,

838
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 8: I think you guys got a chance to really to

839
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 8: really be special.

840
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: Man.

841
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 8: You got a chance to really take it to the

842
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 8: next level. Get to the Eastern Conference finals, get to

843
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 8: the finals, and then and then see where the chips fall.

844
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 8: You know. So it's definitely the potential is there, the

845
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 8: opportunity is there. Just got to go for it.

846
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, this question is for all three of you.

847
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 5: If you guys can change one thing in Nix's history,

848
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 5: what would it be.

849
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 8: Let's go next, Oh, just one thing in Knick's history,

850
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,919
Speaker 8: and would changed depending on your answer, I got one.

851
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 8: I think if I would change one thing in Knick's history,

852
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 8: I would change the fact that I had to battle

853
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 8: some injuries later late like the second half of my

854
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 8: next career. I can change that and be in my prime.

855
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 8: Me and Mellow would have death got a chip because

856
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 8: we was We was like, you know, we were like

857
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 8: one of those guys we ain't taking we ain't taking

858
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 8: no mess.

859
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: We're going after it.

860
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 8: And so if I was, if I wasn't battling those injuries,

861
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 8: I think we had a chance to do something special.

862
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 3: Didn't go in. I knew.

863
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 5: Oh man, that one hurts. I kind have two answers.

864
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 5: There's nothing to do with our my time here but

865
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 5: a little Nick's history. I wish Pat didn't finger roll it.

866
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 5: Or I wish they won the ninety nine finals and

867
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 5: my dad.

868
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 8: Had a right Yeah, yeah, it was freeing Camby exactly.

869
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 5: That would that would be mine. Since you said that,

870
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: I went a little bless in the past.

871
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: Surprised no one said you wish they built the practice

872
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: cility in Manhattan.

873
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 8: That's a close one. That's a close one. When I

874
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 8: was playing, it was gonna build it. They was gonna

875
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 8: build a training center in Manhattan. It never happened.

876
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Speaker 1: I think the Knicks would have more title, man, the

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Speaker 3: Right, Oh we yet we uh we had doors in

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Speaker 8: Maybe, No, that was that was that was That was

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Speaker 4: This one be got Cat. I think he actually I

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Speaker 4: think those were actually an old pair of your actual goggles. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I think you were those.

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Speaker 3: Scrolling. Yeah. They lasted about a half Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The funniest thing is if you're like you know, Kat,

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I had a hard time when I

974
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Speaker 8: first wore God was too man like the first the

975
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Speaker 8: first week, I ain't like him. I ain't like him

976
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Speaker 8: at all. But then I got used to him over time,

977
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Speaker 8: and when I shot my free throws took him off.

978
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Speaker 8: She Cat right here. I did the same thing. I

979
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Speaker 8: lifted them up. Yeah, every time I saw my free throw.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think Cat did a practice with him, No,

981
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: I think only I think he just went straight straight

982
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 4: the game.

983
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when was this this mirror?

984
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Speaker 4: He got her Denver game Denver home.

985
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Speaker 3: Game, missing this game because I was literally swollen shut. Yeah,

986
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Speaker 3: after the fact he played.

987
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Speaker 4: We appreciate you pulling up and joining us on the

988
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Speaker 4: didn't pull up there, Oh yeah, yeah, I guess you did.

989
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 4: Technically didn't pull up.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming on the show.

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, man, sure, thanks for having me Bro. I

992
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Speaker 8: appreciate it, man, I enjoyed it. When you're coming back

993
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Speaker 8: to New York, I'll be up to Thursday, flying out Thursday.

994
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 8: I was gonna fly today, but the flight situation so

995
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Speaker 8: I'd be up there on Thursday.

996
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 3: That's good weather.

997
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 7: Into a game of the Garden yet this year?

998
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I may. I may go to one Thursday night.

999
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 7: I think who do you guys play Thursday?

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00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 3: No, we're going Thursday. Thanks. I think Pelicans.

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00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: Think Pelicans Tomorrow, Thursday, Tuesday, okay, Tuesday, Thursday we play Thursday?

1002
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah that's right. Tomorrow was the game. I

1003
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 8: was gonna go to the game tomorrow, Yeah, exactly, all right, cool. Yeah,

1004
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 8: I'll be up to Thursday though, right.

1005
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 4: Time for a road trip.

1006
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Speaker 3: Yep.

1007
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate you, my guy.

1008
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 3: All right, brother, thank you man, appreciate you always. Yeah,

1009
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: appreciate see boys around, Yes, sir, thank you so much.

1010
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Speaker 4: Love Save travels.

1011
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Speaker 3: The Roommate Show is brought to you by Airbnb.

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Speaker 4: We still got a lot of games I have to play.

1013
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Speaker 4: But my wife keeps going on it Airbnb and talking

1014
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Speaker 4: about vacation homes for July.

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Speaker 3: That's so funny. So does my wife.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, everyone knows by now. We went the Grease last

1017
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Speaker 4: summer together, which was pretty fun. But where do you

1018
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Speaker 4: think we should go with the girls this summer.

1019
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, but me and Jordan want to

1020
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Speaker 5: go somewhere right, anywhere warm with a pool. And also

1021
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Speaker 5: it's a nice kitchen. We all know that we love

1022
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Speaker 5: the sunshine pools, so somewhere by beach. And as you know,

1023
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 5: Ali has been in a big cooking phase being all healthy,

1024
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Speaker 5: and I know it's top party for her to have

1025
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Speaker 5: a nice kitchen at her stay. And I always loved

1026
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Speaker 5: when we were hanging eating, vibing out us four. Yeah,

1027
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 5: the little we do hang it it's good vibes.

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Speaker 4: It's always great vibes. Man. Well, booking to stay on

1029
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Speaker 4: Airbnb is the perfect way to decompress after a long

1030
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Speaker 4: season to make you feel right at home with Alli's

1031
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Speaker 4: home cooked meals for the four of us.

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Speaker 5: So let's do it somewhere warm with the pool by

1033
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Speaker 5: the ocean, with a kitchen to cooking.

1034
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 3: We can see who's the better cook.

1035
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with that, but we have to have a

1036
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Speaker 4: good local neighborhood spot because we can't have them cooking

1037
00:47:59,160 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: every meal.

1038
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: It's absolutely correct.

1039
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: After all our memories you made last summer, now we're

1040
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: talking about it again. I can't wait, and I'm looking

1041
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 4: forward to our next trip next summer. Ali and Shannon

1042
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 4: Bette gets searching on Airbnb.

1043
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Speaker 7: So we're back with our roommates.

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Speaker 7: you pick them with your head or your heart on

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Speaker 7: that one?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what pick my head on my heart?

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Speaker 4: I know, but I'll we'll see who the child is

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent heart. I mean this is probably gonna

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Speaker 4: be the Dodgers, but you know, I mean they just

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Speaker 4: get everybody who they get this home Tucker, Yeah, give

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna se Yankster Cubs.

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Speaker 4: The Cubs aren't doing it. If we can just get

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Speaker 4: another Yanks Dodgers.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you know what you should do twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty seven, I think all Star Games in.

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Speaker 3: At Wrigleyfield. You would love Wrigglyville.

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Speaker 4: I probably would.

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Speaker 7: But I'm not going back one seven, I know.

1064
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Speaker 3: But when when's like.

1065
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Speaker 7: I don't know.

1066
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: I think maybe late July honestly, is like, if we

1067
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Speaker 1: just have another World Series like we did the last

1068
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: Like I feel like two years ago, everyone, not even

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Speaker 1: like non baseball fans were locked ins with Yankees Dodgers.

1070
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Speaker 1: Last year obviously was probably the best World Series of

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00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: all time. I feel like we can just get another.

1072
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Speaker 4: No, it was probably the first two.

1073
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Speaker 3: We just get a second, not it was probably the

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Speaker 1: Body arm or Sports Strength. The Final four is here.

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Speaker 1: How did you guys mentally prepare for the Final four?

1084
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: What was your outlook going into the weekend.

1085
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: First of all, we were all complete and utter lockdown.

1086
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 4: I literally had to ask permission to go to the bathroom.

1087
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 4: I would be in my room. You had the expression

1088
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 4: to our parents, Yeah, like, coach, I need to go

1089
00:49:58,920 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 4: to the bathroom.

1090
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: You can.

1091
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 7: But how did so how did Josh sneak Shannon into

1092
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 7: the hotel rooms?

1093
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Speaker 3: Every night?

1094
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