1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: But I invited you here thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come 3 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your presences 4 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: presents enough, and. 5 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff. So how did you 6 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: dare to surbey me? 7 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Winecker. Oh. 8 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: I hope you're looking and feeling your best. I hope 9 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: you're having a nice day. I know what you're doing 10 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: wondering recently if anyone's ever listened to this podcast on 11 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: a boat, If you're on a boat, that would be exciting. 12 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: I can't imagine what circumstances would bring you to listening 13 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: to any podcast on a boat. I've recently been camping, 14 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: So if you feel, you know, like a slight shift 15 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: towards a more rugged feel of this podcast, that's where 16 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: that's coming from, and that will just continue. That's kind 17 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: of a permanent part of my personality. Now I've camped 18 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: for the first time in fifteen years, and now we're 19 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: going to get into the podcast. I cannot wait for 20 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: today's episode. I adore today's guest, just a wonderful person. 21 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: It's Meredith Scartino. Meredith, welcome to I said, no gifts. 22 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for having me. This is very exciting. 23 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: Do you camp. 24 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: I've been camping. I like camping when there's an expert around. 25 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: M hmmm, someone who can guide the activity. 26 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: And someone who I feel confident is aware of the 27 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: local wildlife and how to deal with them. Like, I'm 28 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: very brave near an expert. 29 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's easy to have award. 30 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: Yes, but I'm a coward around just people I know 31 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 4: or my family, you know, Like if I'll go if 32 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 4: I'll just go out with friends, I'll be like, well, 33 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 4: you don't know how to deal with a bear. You 34 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 4: don't know you know what I mean. 35 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: Well, you can't just wander into the woods with a 36 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: group of non experts. 37 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like an expert. I love an. 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: Expert as the bear the biggest fear for you in 39 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: the woods. 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: It's funny you say that, because well, I love bears, 41 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 4: and I've read a lot about bears, and I've watched 42 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: a lot about bears. But one time I went camping 43 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: in I think it was Mount Washington up in New Hampshire, 44 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 4: and I was with Andrew and his friend Sam. We 45 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: went to who we all went to college together and 46 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: we were camping at a place. We were at a 47 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: campsite and it was pouring down rain, like lightning storm, 48 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 4: and we were in a field and so I was 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 4: just like, we shouldn't be in this field. We're gonna die. 50 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: And then they were just you know, just drinking some 51 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 4: whiskey and being like we're fine. There's higher things that 52 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: will get hit by lightning first, and I was like, no, 53 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: we need to get to the car. So then I 54 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: was scared of that. But then after the thunderstorm ended, 55 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 4: then I was scared of bears. And then after it 56 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: like became light out and I was no longer scared bears. 57 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: For whatever reason, I was scared of bears at night. 58 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: Then I was like, what if I have a heart 59 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: attack out here? So it's like there's like a higher fear. 60 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: Like ever one fear would be evaded, like the next 61 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 4: one would slot in like a like a vending machine 62 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 4: that's you know, dolling out freedom. There's like another thing 63 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: behind it. 64 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: There are like fifty other things that could happen to 65 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: you during camping before the heart attack should be the fear. 66 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 4: That's true. Yeah, Now I just didn't think of those, 67 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 4: and I don't know what I would have been worried 68 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 4: about after the heart attack. That was the last one, 69 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: and I was like, huh, I guess just my status 70 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: quo is being a little bit scared of. 71 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: Something looming, just ruinings everyone's fun on the camp. My 72 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: biggest fear, I think, outside of animals, is falling into 73 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: the fire. 74 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: Oh really, I never worry about that. 75 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: You don't. I always feel like I'm I'm a little 76 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: too reckless around the fire, and I'm clumsy and I 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 3: feel like the loose dirt and all of this, I'm 78 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: going to end up in a fire at some point. 79 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting. That'd be really scary. Do you think 80 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: it has anything to do with being a redhead? Like 81 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 4: you already see your hairs sort of fire. 82 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: This elemental thing that's part of my genetic maker. The 83 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: fire is calling to me. 84 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're drawn, So maybe you're scared because you're drawn 85 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: to it. 86 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: Every time I'm around the fire, I hear whispers have 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: come home, come home. I don't know that scares me. 88 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: Running out of water scares me, yeah. 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: But I feel like, yes, running out of water is 90 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: very scary, But I feel like you've got three days 91 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: before you. 92 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: You would, that's true, and. 93 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: Then you've got like about twenty one I believe for 94 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: hunger twenty one. 95 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: That's so wild to me that you can go twenty 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: one full days. I got food eight hours and I'm screaming. 97 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I agree. 98 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 3: What does day fifteen feel like? 99 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 4: Maybe by day fifteen there's sort of like a weird 100 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: plateau where you're like, oh, maybe I never need food again, 101 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: and then you're like, no, I very much need food. 102 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 4: I don't know, hope they never get in that situation. 103 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: So is Mount Washington the last camping trip you took? 104 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: Do you count like a safari? 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. I was in a ten 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: that feels like camping to me, I feel like camping 107 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 3: is it feels like something you have to do in America. 108 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: Then if you're if you're an attend in another country, 109 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: you've got to have a different word for How. 110 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 4: Do you know my safari was outside of America? 111 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: You took a new Jafari in Colorado? 112 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 113 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 4: You know, I like, I've gone camping in Montana, like 114 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: on horseback with my dad. 115 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: You know this is you were in a rodeo. 116 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 4: That's yeah, and it was very fun. And that was 117 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: surrounded by experts, so oh, I loved it. 118 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: A team of X that was That was what I like. 119 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 4: To be surrounded by a team of expend experts at 120 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: all times. And then I'm the most I'm so brave, 121 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: I'm so relaxed. I'm having the best time the lack 122 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 4: of experts. I love hiking. 123 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 3: I I adore it. Do you hike often? 124 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 4: We went on probably two and a half or three 125 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: mile hike the other day. 126 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: And do you take Willy? 127 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, Lilly is an Willy is my sty spaniel. She's 128 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 4: tending one of. 129 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 3: The most beautiful women in the world. 130 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: She's so gorgeous. She makes me feel like a pig 131 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: like I. I walk around with her and I almost 132 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: feel like she's embarrassed to be seen with me. She's 133 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: so stunningly beautiful. She just looks like she should be 134 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: on it on a Ralph Lauren like embroidered pillow at 135 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 4: all times, or painted she's in here will like marrick. 136 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is such a treat. This is 137 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: one of my favorite dogs on the planet feet. Her 138 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: hair looks so deeply conditioned, just looks like she's wearing 139 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: a wig at all times. 140 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: I made a video of her one time where she's 141 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: working at a desk and is mistaken for a beautiful, 142 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: enchanting woman from behind. Yes, and then she turns around. 143 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: Occasionally it's a little like excuse me, miss, and then 144 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: it turns around and it's a dog, right. 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: And it was set to the song Who's That Lady? Who? 146 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: By the way, I keep putting it back on my Instagram, 147 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: and I keep getting noticed that like Sony has pulled 148 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: it down a copyright infringement. And every time, every time 149 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: there's because there's a button that says would you like 150 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: to protest this or something like that. Every single time 151 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: I write, I press it and I go listen. I 152 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: think that the artist who sang who Who's That Lady 153 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: will agree there's no other song that correctly encapsulates the 154 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: setting where my dog is mistaken for a beautiful woman 155 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 4: from behind. I'm sure the artist will grant me permission. Please, 156 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: I will see you in court. I'm happy to state 157 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 4: my case. And I just keep doing that every few months, 158 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: and I've done it like six times in the. 159 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: Past five years. You're gonna get banned from Instagram. I 160 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: sure that's the who sings who's that lady? Wait? 161 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: I got to look it up because I care look 162 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: it up right now. 163 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of those songs that everyone knows, but 164 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: nobody quite knows who sings it. 165 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: Oh it's the Isley Brothers. 166 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: Oh it is. 167 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, So maybe it would be an issue where like 168 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: one brother would say yes, and then the other brother. 169 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: There's the family. 170 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: No, we need money, we need the money. They she 171 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 4: can't use it for free. I don't know, there's more than. 172 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: The cover of it. I feel like if we could 173 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: find a decent cover that could work. 174 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 4: But then, I mean, aren't there also issues with you 175 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 4: have to, you know, pay the artists if you want 176 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 4: to cover their song, but maybe not on Instagram. 177 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: I'm posting songs on Instagram completely without a band, and 178 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: sometimes they get turned off. You know, it'll turn out 179 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: that the song, they don't have the rights to play 180 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: the song online in like Peru or something. It's very 181 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: odd international copyrights, but it's the Internet. What are you 182 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: gonna do? 183 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: What are you gonna do? 184 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: Who knew that the Isley Brothers were so litigious? 185 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean I think it's just Sony Blanketly, 186 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: you know, having their box try to block me. 187 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: They're deprivate. 188 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 4: I don't think I truly believe the Isley Brothers would 189 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: be would side with me. 190 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: Isley Brothers, at least one of you is listening to 191 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: this podcast on a boat. Reach out to Meredith, get 192 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: in touch with Sony whoever's in charge of Sony, and 193 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: let's get the song. Yeah, it's a beautiful video. 194 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: There's upwards of nine viewers that are on the line. 195 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: People need to see this video of a dog in 196 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: a desk chair. 197 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: And she's working. There's one part in the video where 198 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: it zooms in on what she's working on, and she's 199 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 4: got a file open called the Paris account because she's 200 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: very sophisticated, and it just zooms in and it just 201 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: has like fine bridges and perfumes, so enchanting. 202 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: Will you send me this video and I'll try to 203 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: post it to Instagram? 204 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 4: Yes? 205 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: When will you post about this episode with pleasure? Because 206 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: people are going to be screaming about I need to 207 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: see this video. We may have to do it without 208 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: the song who knows it's. 209 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: Or we'll just fight the court case together. It's actually 210 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: in a folder in my phone called Important Videos for Life. 211 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: Oh, how is Willy doing in general. 212 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: She's good, she just went to the bed, she just 213 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: got her check out, no worms or anything like. She's 214 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: ten ten she is. And it's hard. It's pretty hard imagining, 215 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: you know. I hate the idea of how life spans 216 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: don't line up the dog and the human. I want 217 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 4: to find a way to make her live forever in 218 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 4: some way. Like I thought about trying to contact a 219 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 4: small town to see if I could send a bronze 220 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: sculpture her to the center of town, and then I 221 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 4: actually contacted It's sound crazy. I contacted a sculptor to 222 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: see how much it would cost to create a life 223 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: size replica for kind of like a Baldo in Central Park, 224 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: but of Willy. And it just would have some flack. 225 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: That's it's like, not famous, but just one of the 226 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: greatest dogs, one of America's top doggies. And it was 227 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: something really expensive, like eight or nine thousand dollars. 228 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: And oh good lord. 229 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 4: I thought, well, if I were gonna ever do something 230 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: like that, I would or raise money to do something 231 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: like that. I would have to like match it or 232 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: something and give, you know, to a charity because it's 233 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,359 Speaker 4: just so indulgent. 234 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: I feel like yeah, the amount of dogs that could 235 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: be saved for nine I know, but I think you 236 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: do the nine thousand dollars statue, you put it in 237 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: front of a rescue and donate nine thousand dollars to 238 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: the rescue. All and you're in eighteen thousand dollars. But 239 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: then kind of the guilt goes away and it kind 240 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: of makes sense. Willy's out there in front of a rescue. Yeah, 241 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: people are saying, who's that lady? 242 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 4: Who is that lady? That beautiful lady. 243 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's something to worth, It's 244 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 3: something worth thinking about, and you think about, like how much, 245 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: over the course of the rest of your life each day, 246 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: how much that would cost? What is it? 247 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: In some ways that means I know the day that 248 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: I die, and I don't know that I can calculate faster. 249 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: Do you know? 250 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 4: Are you aware of the day? 251 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: I mean, my goal is to live to one hundred 252 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: and fifteen and then have my nieces pushed me out 253 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: of a plane. 254 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: I have thought about that. You know, when you're you're 255 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: above ninety or something, that's kind of the time to 256 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: try weird drugs that I never did, a heroin on it, 257 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: to jump out of a plane, you know that kind 258 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 4: of I don't know that I will. 259 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like you get to ninety and it's like, 260 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: what is there's truly nothing left to lose? Why not 261 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: give all these other things a shot? Yeah, just go 262 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: for it rather than just kind of sit in front 263 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: of the TV or whatever. Just start to really experiment 264 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: with your body. 265 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Or my other plan was like, I'll just because 266 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: I don't watch a lot of Law and Order, but 267 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: there's a lot of them. I'm like, I'll just watch 268 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 4: Law and Order until I die. 269 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: Like fact, just have a constant stream in your home. Yeah, 270 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: just have it over like speakers in the kitchens, and 271 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: there's just no moment when it's not part of your 272 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: a television in every single room. It's not a bad idea, 273 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: bad idea. What else has been going on? 274 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: Oh? I don't know. I mean, we just finish season 275 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: two of Girls five EVA on Peacock Dropping weekly. 276 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: Incredible show. Thank you, Thank you, one of the funniest 277 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 3: shows on television. Are you doing anything fun, anything exciting 278 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: because you've been working probably NonStop for the last year. 279 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going I am going fishing in Maine. 280 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't been fishing. I don't. I don't know 281 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: that fishing's for me. I'm just going to really admit 282 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: that to myself right now. 283 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of meditative in a way to be 284 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 4: out like if you're fly fishing and waiters and stuff 285 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: and being in the middle of a beautiful just like 286 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: a really beautiful place. It's just like kind of a 287 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 4: way to be with nature and then rip its mouth 288 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: like an asshole. 289 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: I love to stand in a river or a body 290 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: of water, so I guess I could just do that. 291 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: You could do that, get waiters and just kind of 292 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: go stand in various streams. 293 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: And river standing for the weekend. 294 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: My grandpa would take me out standing. 295 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: He was an expert standard standing since he was oh 296 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: since he was two, since he could stand out, be 297 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 4: with standing. 298 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: Oh, I've got my standing hat on, I've got my 299 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: standing poles. 300 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: Walking into sports outfitter and being like, where's your standing 301 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: section rather standing here? 302 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: Oh well, I mean, look, we've got to talk about 303 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: something else. We have to talk about something else. Obviously, 304 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: I was looking forward to having Meredith's Gardino on my podcast. 305 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: I thought, I a door Meredith. We haven't seen each 306 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: other in years. We're going to catch up. We'll have 307 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: a nice time and then we'll move on. Maybe we'll 308 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: you know, see each other whatever. So I was, you know, 309 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: I was a little surprised the podcast it's called I 310 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: said no gifts which are fully aware of emails have 311 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: been exchanged. The podcast name is just out there. I 312 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: opened the front door and there was a large box 313 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: waiting for me. They've been shipped to me. This is 314 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: please handle with care. Glass on it has said some 315 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: other things that I don't want to might give it 316 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: away to the listener. What could possibly be happening in 317 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 3: this box? And so we'll just look Meredith, this is 318 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: a gift for me. 319 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 4: It is a gift for you. 320 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: Okay, good, fine? Uh do you want me to open 321 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: it here on the show? Would you like me to 322 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: save it for later? 323 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 4: No, I would love for you to open it. I 324 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: know you don't want gifts, but I'm just so. I'm 325 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 4: a I'm a classy lady first and I lead with class. 326 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 4: And since you had you hosted me on the podcast, 327 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: it's really a host host gift. 328 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: Okay, lead with class. 329 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: I lead with class. Anyone who knows me knows that 330 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 4: I leave with class. 331 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 3: That's the only thing that anyone can certainly say about 332 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: Meredith Scardino as you always lead with. 333 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 4: Class, elegance. Sometimes it's elegance, but right now it's class. 334 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm happy to open it here. I've got 335 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: my new box cutter. We'll just open this next to 336 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: the mic. We love the click, We love the click. 337 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: This is so dangerous. This is gonna director little. 338 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 4: Thing that keeps your peas from popping. 339 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 3: Yes, it's like this is a little screen. This is 340 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: in front of the microphone. We're getting behind the mic. 341 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 3: We're clicking, and we're gonna get open. Get the box 342 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: open here. I actually have to get off mic here 343 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: to open this boxes. This may be the largest box 344 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: that's ever been sent to this podcast. 345 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 4: So can I get a look at it? 346 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna put the box cutter down. Safety first, 347 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to stand to show. 348 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: You this Bigger than I thought. 349 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: It takes up my entire seating area, so it's hard. 350 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: I'm now kind of away from the microphone holding the box. 351 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll do it from here so we can kind 352 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: of commentate. I'm going to Oh, I'm cutting towards myself. 353 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: I this safety this podcast. I'm really headed for a 354 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: worker's comp type situation. I don't know if I'm covered 355 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: by workers comp. And this box cutter is doing very 356 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: little work. Okay, here we go, we've got it. We're 357 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: putting away the box cutter. We're ripping, ripping into the box. 358 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: Oh I strength. Okay, now I'm putting it back on 359 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 3: the ground. I'm away from the mic. Listener, don't panic, 360 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: I'm now continuing. The box cutter didn't do enough work 361 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: for me. I've got to go back off Mike. 362 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: He's working really hard. 363 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 3: Oh, I should say, listener, it was kind of a 364 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: large brown box, so just kind of visualize that in 365 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: your mind, a shipping box. Okay, we've gotten to the 366 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: second layer here. Now we've got a bubble wrap. 367 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: Do you leave all of this in? 368 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: We hope to leave as much as possible. The listener 369 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: loves to hear an adult man just kind of slowly 370 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: open a box. Of course, ten minutes. 371 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: Do you get panicked knowing how much you know you 372 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: have to vamp for seeing how many layers? 373 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: No, I find an absolute thrill. I mean, this box 374 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 3: cutter came to me and look now, the listeners like 375 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: I thought the gift was being opened, and now he's 376 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 3: just stopping. But there was an episode recently with weird 377 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: Al he had sent I think it was so difficult 378 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: for me to open without a box cutter that some 379 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 3: listener found a mutual friend of ours and sent me 380 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: this box cutter to help the situation out. But now 381 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: the box cutter has only led to more conversation about 382 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: the boxes getting open. So it's not really it's not 383 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: cutting down any time. 384 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 4: I gotta listen to the weird Olt one we've got to. 385 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: I mean that has maybe half of that episode is 386 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 3: me just struggling to open the box. It's probably not 387 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 3: fair to anyone. Okay, we're opening, We're opening. We've got 388 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 3: some bubble wrap. We might try to pop a few. 389 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: Oh that's that's very satisfying. Okay, this is as many 390 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: textures as you could get wrapping an item. We've had hard, 391 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: we've had bubble we've had Now we've got kind of 392 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 3: a listen to this. This is a fully artist's paradise. 393 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: Oh, we're starting to see something. 394 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: We are starting to get to. I've got the back 395 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: of it, so it looks like a framed object which 396 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: I cannot see the front of. And now it's going 397 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: to be a full reveal for me. Oh this is beautiful. Wait, 398 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: let me try to guess at what this is and 399 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: then you can tell me. I mean, this is concrete 400 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 3: and there's some animal prints in it. Are they raccoon prints? 401 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 4: Okay? This is on West Broadway and Franklin Street, and 402 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: there's a new section of concrete I noticed recently in 403 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 4: Manhattan where I live, and I looked down. I thought 404 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: it was raccoon prints in the sidewalk as it as 405 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: a dry right, and then I looked up animal prints, 406 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: and I believe it's rat. 407 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: It's rat prince. Oh my god, that's terrified. These are huge, 408 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 3: these look yeah? Were they were? They big in person? 409 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 4: They're about here if you can see what you can see, 410 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 4: they're about this big each one, okay, and there's lighter 411 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 4: ones and there's deeper ones. But because I looked for 412 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: raccoon and raccoon has a different like look, and then 413 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 4: I thought maybe squirrel. But squirrel has this dot at 414 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: the end of each finger. 415 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: That's the little like paw print, yeah, or the little. 416 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 4: Finger matched rat exactly. 417 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: I hate knowing this so much. This is absolutely dreadful. 418 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: Blown up picture of rat Prince. 419 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: I just live in the fantasy of these being raccoon prints. 420 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: I really thought they were raccoon. I mean, there's a 421 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: chance you could take it to someone who knows, you know, 422 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 4: rodent footprints better than I do. 423 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: Right, But this is the the speculation of a complete amateur. 424 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: I thought, oh, it is a pigeon. It's surely not 425 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: a pigeon. Looks like a flux capacitor or something like that. Oh, 426 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: I think it's definitely rat. 427 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: Meredith. I refuse to believe this. This is why, this 428 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: is why concrete is very heavy. It's very It is 429 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: almost a quicksand a rat unless I'm and I am 430 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 3: just trying to convince myself so I can look at 431 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 3: this photo without fear. A raccoon is strong enough to 432 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 3: get out of concrete. What concrete? A rat would have 433 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: been trapped there, and it would have been a little 434 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: rat skeleton sitting there. 435 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 4: Well, how do we know that didn't happen and they 436 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: had to ship away the rat skeleton in the morning. 437 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: We don't know. Now, It's just I think it's I 438 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 4: would love to talk to a construction worker because I 439 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 4: wonder if it's sort of a known thing. Hey, don't 440 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: let concrete dry by itself overnight because you're gonna get. 441 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: That makes me want to throw up. 442 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 4: It's right in front of the maman. Do you guys? 443 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 4: Do you know, mam a beautiful cafe that's right there. 444 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: That's I'm not good for the cafe out. 445 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 4: West Broadway, Franklin, west side of the street, Node east 446 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 4: side of the street. 447 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 3: Did I explain to the listener that this is a 448 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: photograph of Prince and concrete. I don't even remember. I 449 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: think I was so jolted that I just immediately started 450 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 3: trying to speculate on what I was looking at. But okay, 451 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: so this could be rats, and you took this photo. 452 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful photo. 453 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 4: It's an okay photo. I took it. I was just 454 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 4: marveling at it, wondering what it was. I was like, 455 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 4: is there a raccoon in the city? This is so interesting. 456 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: I took a picture, and then I thought you would 457 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: love it because I long admired your Instagram, which is 458 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 4: just like photos of trash. And then a caption that 459 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: says something like I knew you know, the photographer has 460 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 4: to act fast when he sees inspiration and things like that. 461 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 4: When I captured this shot. I was thinking of you 462 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 4: or whatever it was, and I just thought you would 463 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 4: appreciate it. 464 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: I appreciate it on such a deep level. Despite the 465 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: rat thing. That rat is my number one fear. Really, 466 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 3: rats terrify man. I had went in first grade and 467 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: then escaped and got rabies and lived in our garage. 468 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 4: And how do you know it got rabies? 469 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's that's a little speculation on 470 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: my part. But you know, you get out of the 471 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: cage and go live in the garage. I think rabies 472 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 3: are just part of the equation at that point. 473 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: And now, had you bonded with it. 474 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 3: I guess I had. You know, it was one of 475 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 3: these situations. It was like the peak of Ninja Turtle's fever. 476 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 3: And I asked my mom for a turtle, and for 477 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: whatever reason, she thought, no, you can have a You know, 478 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: the rat is in the ninja turtles as well. She 479 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 3: thought that was a cleaner pet. She thought she was 480 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: afraid of sn't that salmonilla poisoning from the turtle? 481 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 4: Which how do you get that? 482 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: There must have been some wave of that at some point. Yeah, 483 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: I guess if you don't cook it well enough. But 484 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: we ended up with the rat name splinter that just 485 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: escaped and then lived in the garage. 486 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: White. 487 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: No, even thinking about it now makes me a little sick. 488 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: It was brown and truly god bless. I know people 489 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: a lot of rat owners love their rats. They apparently 490 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: make a decent pet, but absolutely not for me. Just 491 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 3: scares the hell out of me. 492 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 4: What okay, Because I think I've thought about this, that 493 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: we have a bias against you know, animals that are 494 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 4: not as adorable animals, and we find them gross when 495 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 4: they're just as nice as say a. 496 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 3: Squirrel or a rabbit or a rabbit. 497 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: But but you knew a rat. I thought, I thought 498 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 4: maybe maybe it's the betrayal. 499 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 3: That I think that's really what happened. I think it 500 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: was my first heartbreak, it was. 501 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 4: And so these rat prints remind you of a rat 502 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 4: that only left a sign of itself and then disappeared 503 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 4: from your life. 504 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 3: Went and found a Snickers bar in the garage to 505 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: live off of. 506 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 4: Would ratter live in a garage than what you? 507 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Rats? I mean, I look, I know we are 508 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: biased towards cute animals, but rats also have They've got 509 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: a lot of crimes in their past. Yeah, just various 510 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: diseases that they continue to spread. 511 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 4: Mosquitoes, yeah, those kind of things that carry other things. 512 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 4: It's hard for people to to not have like a 513 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: some kind of innate like protect you know, protective thing 514 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 4: that probably goes back to like trying to keep our 515 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 4: our caves clean of deceased back in the day. But 516 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: it is I have. But I do think, like I 517 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 4: don't want to know a rat, really, but I kind 518 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 4: of also want to know a rat a little bit 519 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 4: because I also, you know, cross the street when I 520 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 4: am on's sidewalk and a rat runs in front of me, 521 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 4: out like go across the street, or I'll walk down 522 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: the center of the street a lot in the middle 523 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 4: of summer in Manhattan because it's just so many rats 524 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: everywhere on sides. 525 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: I had an extremely close encounter with the rat when 526 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 3: I was living in New York, like opening the garbage 527 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 3: can in front of the apartment building and the rat 528 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: is there, crawls out. I throw the lid of the 529 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: garbage can, run inside, shaking. That was the end of 530 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 3: the road for me. 531 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 4: My biggest rat based fear is it's a summer night, 532 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: I'm wearing flip flops and a skirt and it ends 533 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 4: with the rat somehow inside my big china like it 534 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 4: runs up my foot, up my leg, and then just to. 535 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 3: Find the new one has nowhere to go. 536 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: I'm scared of that. 537 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: Of course, it's probably happened to someone, I think. I mean, 538 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: I think, if I really think, if you can think 539 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: of something, it's probably happened. 540 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. That's like when you see the side of you know, 541 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 4: of a product and it says something insane like don't 542 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 4: don't eat this light bulb or whatever. It's like, so 543 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: someone ate the light bulb at one point. Otherwise they 544 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: wouldn't have had to put that warning on there. 545 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: Exactly. And so that's I'm certain a rat has run 546 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: up a vagina. 547 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 4: At some point, I'm sure. 548 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: And then what do you do? 549 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 4: Well, this reminds me of this other story that's very 550 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 4: famous and very interesting, I think in I think it 551 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: was England, in I'm gonna say seventeen hundreds or maybe 552 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 4: early eighteen hundreds, but there was a woman who gave 553 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: birth to wrap like seventeen rabbits. 554 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: This is a documented thing. 555 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 4: This is the thing. This is a lady that gave 556 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 4: birth to rabbits and a couple like medical highly respected 557 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: medical professionals or scientists of the day like certified it 558 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 4: as this is real. This woman gave birth to rabbit parts, 559 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 4: not full rabbits that were alive rabbit. There was dead rabbit. 560 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: Parts, okay, just ears and legs, and I don't know 561 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: it just like. 562 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: A bunch of rabbit parts. It's just and it was 563 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: certified as like, this is real, this is a this 564 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 4: is a miracle, some crazy anomaly of this person. And 565 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 4: then years later, maybe not, maybe it wasn't years later, 566 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 4: but maybe it was just like one scientist being like, 567 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 4: I don't think so, manah. And they dissected the rabbits 568 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: and found grass in their stuff mix. It proved that 569 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 4: the rabbits had lived elsewhere. But so there was this 570 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: lady I think her name was my last name is 571 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 4: tough to look her up. Mary top Me, the woman 572 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 4: rabbits birth, the woman who claimed to give birth to rabbits, 573 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 4: Mary Toft. I was close Mary talk yeah, Mary Taft 574 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: in eighteenth century anyway, But she did this just. 575 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: To I mean, what other things had she done to 576 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 3: be famous before this? 577 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: Were? 578 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 3: Like how desperate had she gotten that? 579 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 4: That's a great question. 580 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: Do we have any idea. How many rabbits were up there? 581 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I've read about it. I actually told someone 582 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: about it once at a dinner party, and there was 583 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 4: a woman there who was an artist who makes puppets, 584 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 4: and she made these beautiful puppets of the whole scene. 585 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 4: Woman eventually in some of her art. It was in 586 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 4: the seventeen hundreds, seventeen twenty six. She was twenty four 587 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: or twenty five years old, that's anything. 588 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: Her career had fizzled out. 589 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 4: She was considered an old krone at twenty four and 590 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: needed to get desperate. 591 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: Ohow many rabbits. 592 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 4: Oh, and it happened over many days, So this is interesting. 593 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: So there's a guy named John Howard, who's he? I 594 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: think this was the medical professional. He wrote a guy 595 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 4: and said, sir, I don't know if he wrote, since 596 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: I wrote you, I have taken or delivered the poor 597 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 4: woman of three more rabbits, all three half grown. Oh 598 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: and the last had leaped twenty three hours in the 599 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 4: uterus before it died. Jesus eleven rabbits eleven. As soon 600 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: as the eleventh rabbits was taken away, way up leaped 601 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: the twelfth rabbit. Rabbit is spelled with an et and 602 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 4: this reason which is now leaping. Oh, I guess some 603 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: of them were alive. 604 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: My lord, Oh my Mary Toft, mother of twelve. 605 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 4: I might just have to make this show absolute about her. 606 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 3: Some of the rabbits were alive. That's incredible, it is. 607 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's remarkable that rabbits. I mean, only a 608 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 3: single doctor was able to kind of pipe up and 609 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 3: be like maybe not everyone else was on board. 610 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: This also says she has but ten days more to go, 611 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: so I do not know how many rabbits may be behind. 612 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 3: There could be infinite rabbits within this one. 613 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 4: My gosh, wonder. 614 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 3: What happened to her after this? 615 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: What an idiot that this guy believed her? 616 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: Well, probably after the fifth or sixth rabbit, you have 617 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: to kind of start believing. Yes, I'd be like, well, 618 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 3: I guess they're in there. 619 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: I guess they're in there. 620 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 3: Keep coming out. Wow. Anyway, I wonder if they were 621 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: rabbit babies. Certainly they must have been rabbit babies. 622 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 4: This rabbits, my guess is this woman found a litterate. 623 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I know it, I'll do finally the 624 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: opportunity is come. Well, this is a beautiful piece of 625 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 3: art for me. I mean, if I can just kind 626 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: of shift my thoughts towards raccoon and these dude, despite 627 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,720 Speaker 3: whatever you say, look like they could be raccoon. Pause. 628 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 4: Look there, I also didn't investigate. There's a chance, I 629 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 4: would say, I'll be at a very small one that 630 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 4: there could be like a chihuahua pauw oh, interesting that 631 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 4: could be thrown in in the mix. But I was 632 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 4: done by how much it matched rat. And then it 633 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 4: made sense to me that it I just imagine the 634 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 4: setting of these guys, like all right, good day's work, guys, 635 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 4: or let's that's just the caution tape around it. Everyone 636 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 4: will respect that. 637 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: And then and then this rat family comes along. Yeah, 638 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 3: so what's the closest encounter you've had with a rat? 639 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 4: Just many running in front of my feet over and right, 640 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 4: or running under my table, outdoor. 641 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: Diving or something that'll just ruin a day. 642 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. And I also have really good like if there's 643 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: a term for being a meteorologist about if I will 644 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 4: see rats, I know the temp I can walk outside 645 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: and immediately say this is a night where I will 646 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 4: see many rats, or we're safe tonight, we will not 647 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: see rats. 648 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 3: You just standing in front of a green screen pointing 649 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: to different parts of the city. 650 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, like, I truly would happily work for 651 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 4: New York One if they need to. 652 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: Do a rat We've got a front coming in from 653 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 3: the north. Yeah, exactly, just rats. 654 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 4: I can just tell. I just know it in my bumps. 655 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 4: I'm always right. 656 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: That's a plague. That's just a plague. You're talking. 657 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe. 658 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 3: Well this is beautiful, and I actually do need more 659 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 3: art to hang in my house, so this is perfect. 660 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 3: I have a really hard time deciding what to put 661 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: on walls. I'll put this in an area where, like 662 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 3: I know where it'll be and it won't remind me 663 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: of rats that often. 664 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 4: Oh good. Yeah, Or you could also hang it if 665 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 4: you have a garage, you could hang in the garage. 666 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 3: But I feel like that's calling the rats towards the garage. 667 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 4: You think they they'll notice themselves. 668 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: It becomes kind of a rat art gallery. Well. 669 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 4: I tried to frame it as beautifully as I could. 670 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: It's really stunning. It's really just a beautiful photo and 671 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 3: a frame. I mean looks like you just found a 672 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 3: piece of art to send to me, rather than took 673 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 3: a photo of rat pop prints and then send it 674 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 3: to me. It's stunning and people can you know, it's art, 675 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 3: so people can choose to take away what they want, 676 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 3: and I'm taking away it's raccoon pause. 677 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 4: I'm happy to get behind that. 678 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: If you are that delusion, I think it's time to 679 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 3: play a game. Oh yeah, do you want to play 680 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 3: a game? Actually, let's see. I feel like we should 681 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 3: play a game called Gift or a Curse. It's been a minute. 682 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,479 Speaker 3: We're gonna play that game. 683 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 4: Okay. 684 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 3: I need a number between one and ten from you four. Okay. 685 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating to get the 686 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 3: game pieces we'll be playing with. So for the time being, 687 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 3: you have the mic. You can promote, you can recommend, 688 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: you can do whatever you want. I'll be right back. 689 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: Okay, wait, maybe I'll just talk about Bridger since he's away. 690 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 4: I worked with Bridger on Unbreakable Kimi Schmidt on Netflix, 691 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 4: and he's very, very, very funny, and I've always loved 692 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 4: Bridger and I like that he has a podcast now, 693 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,879 Speaker 4: and I love his Instagram where he shows off the 694 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 4: gifts that his guests spring with white gloves but with 695 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 4: like a violent bent. The way he man handles the gifts. 696 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 4: It's very very funny and disturbing and wonderful. 697 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 3: Meredith, Yeah, that's very sweet. But listener, you should watch 698 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: Girls five EVA. That's Meredith. I mean we already spoke 699 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: about it, but it's phenomenal. 700 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 4: Thank you. I would love if people, you know what, 701 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 4: if you don't have Peacock, because you have one hundred 702 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 4: other streamers, I get it. I will say there's a trial, 703 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 4: there should be a week free trial. But even if 704 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 4: you're not willing to do the week free trial, like, 705 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 4: it's five dollars a month, and so if you buy it, 706 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 4: it's like a one cup of coffee. I mean, if 707 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 4: you if you amortize it for like what it would 708 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 4: be per day, it's penny. 709 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: Kind of in the way that you're doing with the 710 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 3: bronze statue of Willie exactly. 711 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 4: I mean, it's much more economical than a bronze. 712 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 3: It's not eighteen thousand dollars, my dog, but. 713 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 4: It's the kind of I feel like, if you're gonna 714 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 4: get a streamer, sign up for the free trial and 715 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 4: then forget about it for the rest of your life 716 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 4: and just see it on your credit card all the time. 717 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 4: This is a good one because it's the cheapest one. 718 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 3: And at least your credit card statement says a bird. 719 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: It's this type of bird. You get reminded of all this. 720 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 4: It seems like you're from an you know, belong to 721 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 4: an autobond society, very sophisticated. So I would I would 722 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 4: say give it a shot. There's also a lot of 723 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 4: other great programming. 724 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 3: But if you will, okay, enough killing for the Peacock 725 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: or girls might have as wonderful. But Meredith secretly is 726 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 3: missus Peacock owner of the Peacock Network. I forgot to 727 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 3: mention that up top, and I apologize. But what are 728 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 3: you going to do? Meredith? This is how gift you 729 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 3: a curse works. I'm gonna name three things and then 730 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 3: you're gonna tell me if they're a gift or a 731 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 3: curse and why. And I'm going to tell you if 732 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 3: you're right or wrong, because there are answers and you 733 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 3: can lose this game in a huge way. Okay, does 734 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 3: that make sense? 735 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 4: You just break and stomp my gift at the end. 736 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 3: If I have a baseball bat right off camera here, 737 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: I should do that, Okay, first up, So yeah, tell 738 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 3: me if they're a gift to a curse and why 739 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: number one This is a listener suggestion, and the listener 740 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 3: declined to be named. I feel like the email pointed 741 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 3: out a particular person whose last name whatever. The listener suggested, 742 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 3: changing the pronunciation of your last name gift to a curse. 743 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna say gift because guys, all names are 744 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 4: made up, so who's to say what's right? Okay? But 745 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 4: also having worked for Stephen Colbert, half of his family 746 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 4: goes by Colbert. 747 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: Oh right, and. 748 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: He's Colbert, so I and I'm and I I'm solidly 749 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 4: in his camp all the time because I love him. 750 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 4: So I will say it's a gift, because that that 751 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 4: name is is exciting, It's wonderful. Do whatever you want 752 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 4: with your name. 753 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 3: I don't care, Meredith, You're correct, it's absolutely a gift. 754 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 3: I as someone with too deeply confusing first and last name, 755 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 3: I've really come to accept it's all nonsense and I'm 756 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 3: not precious at all about names. Sure, change the pronunciation 757 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 3: of your last name, play with it, have a little fun. 758 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 3: I could become Bridge or whinager Bridge, r winae jaw Bridge, 759 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 3: your Whinaga. I mean, it's a fun, little thing you 760 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: can do at any point in your life, and why not? 761 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 3: Names are nonsense. I say, go for it. It's just 762 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 3: two random mixes of letters. Sure, change the pronunciation. I 763 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 3: don't care. Okay, you've got one that's very impressive. Let's 764 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 3: see what how you do. For some reason, this next 765 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 3: listener is also just an anonymous And you know, if 766 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 3: I just forgot to type your name in, don't come 767 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 3: after me. It's not my problem. 768 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 4: Maybe they're a coward. 769 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: Let's just assume this next person, this coward, next coward, 770 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 3: gift or a curse. The County Fair. 771 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to say gift. Well, wait, here's the problem. 772 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 4: I've never been to one, so all I know are 773 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 4: the things i've read or seen, you know, news clips 774 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 4: of you know, hey, there's a deep fried butter you 775 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 4: can eat at the Wisconsin State Fair or something like that. 776 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 4: And I guess I might say curse only because I 777 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 4: feel like there's a lot of very unhealthy food and 778 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 4: you know, they you know, there's pigs stuff where I 779 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 4: feel like the pigs meet a terrible and maybe after 780 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 4: they get a blue riven, they don't get. 781 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 3: Spared, right, I think that they go on they win 782 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 3: a home and car. It's kind of a sweepstakes for pigs. 783 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 4: If it's a sweepstakes for pigs, then it's what was 784 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 4: it was a blessing. 785 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 3: No gift, get on board. 786 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 4: It's a gift. But if it's if the pig doesn't 787 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 4: doesn't get like a brand new you know, or something, 788 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 4: I would. 789 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: Say the showcase showdown the curse, Meredith wrong, Oh, County 790 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 3: Fair is a gift. I've never been to one. I've 791 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 3: been to a state fair, which I think is a 792 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: little bit. I feel like the state Fair is a 793 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 3: little bit trashier or something. I feel like there's a 794 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 3: lot more concrete involved with the state Fair. There's a 795 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 3: lot of blankets, like fleece blankets with Marilyn Monroe on 796 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 3: them being sold. That is a curse. But the County 797 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 3: Fair seems so quaint. There's the blue ribbon. I feel like, 798 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: there's the pie contest. We've got Charlotte spinning spiders webs. 799 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 3: I have to imagine that. I don't think Charlotte was 800 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 3: at the state Fair. That was certainly a county fair. 801 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 4: You know. I was thinking, you meant state Fair. 802 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 3: Don't the backpedaling, because. 803 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 4: You're right, I'm just trying to be a good student 804 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 4: and get a better grade. I'm just trying to work 805 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 4: you right now until you get me or the writing. 806 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 3: You got it wrong? A gift? It might just be 807 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 3: my imagination, and maybe going to one would change my mind. 808 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 3: But I love the County Fair. I love to think 809 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 3: of the County Fair and Babe. 810 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 811 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 3: Well, actually, what did Babe do in the movie. Did 812 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: he go to a fair or was he just part 813 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 3: of some sort of pig competition? 814 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 4: I don't know, but I mean he ends up in 815 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 4: the city at some point. 816 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 3: I just recently heard that that movie's good. I've heard 817 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 3: Babe Pig in the City is a good movie. 818 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a good movie. 819 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 3: Apparently people love it. I had no idea. No, now 820 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 3: that I'm thinking about it, I feel like Babe helps 821 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 3: round up the other pigs, probably, you. 822 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 4: Know, in a Ferdinand style way, try to escape. 823 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 3: The listener is probably furious about me not knowing the 824 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,959 Speaker 3: plot of Babe. Forgive me. I remember there being three 825 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 3: mice that sing and that was cute. Okay, so you've 826 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 3: gotten one right and one wrong. Whatever, and now finally 827 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 3: gift or a curse. And this is again from a 828 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: listener with a name which is exciting someone named Colby 829 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 3: accidentally replying all gift or a curse. 830 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna say gift, but I'm gonna say it's 831 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 4: a gift to others. It's usually hilarious what happened, and 832 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 4: it's one of those things. It's just part of life's 833 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 4: you know, humiliation and embarrassment is part of life. An accident. 834 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 4: Hopefully it didn't hurt someone's feelings too much. But I 835 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 4: would say it's a gift to other people who get 836 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 4: to hear the story generally, but it is a curse. 837 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 4: If it happens to you, it's terrible. 838 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 3: Well you have to pick one or the other. You're 839 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 3: going to say it's a gift. 840 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go gift. 841 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 3: You're right, of course, of course. I think even look 842 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 3: in the moment the accidental reply all, what a horrible feeling. 843 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 3: But the truth comes out. The truth was going to 844 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 3: come out at some point anyway. Why not just have it. 845 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 4: Just lay it out there, you know, Yeah, cold hard truths. 846 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 3: We should all be replying all all the time. I agree, 847 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 3: reply all from your heart. I feel like sure, it's 848 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 3: probably a horrible and probably has ruined a lot of 849 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,760 Speaker 3: lives and has devastated people in all kinds of ways. 850 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 3: But I feel like, yes, I know in my heart 851 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 3: it's a gift. We love to hear about somebody replying 852 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 3: all and embarrassing themselves or pointing out a flaw in 853 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 3: someone else. It's an X ray. It's ultimately an X 854 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 3: ray into the person, and we love it a gift. 855 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 4: It's an x It's an X ray that reveals the 856 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 4: rabbits inside the ugly truth. 857 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 3: She replied, all with those rabbits. 858 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 4: It's trying to dovetail. I don't know that it worked or. 859 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 3: Very tough. That's a a It's a confusing, muddled callback 860 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 3: that I really appreciate. Actually, Okay, two out of three 861 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 3: not bad, you got a nice sixty six percent people 862 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 3: have done worse. Okay. This is the final segment of 863 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 3: the podcast. This is called I said no emails. People 864 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 3: write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. 865 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 3: Every one of them has some problem that I end 866 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 3: up dealing with. The guest has to deal with it. 867 00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I say this every time my listeners have 868 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 3: It's actually out of control how many issues people have 869 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 3: surrounding gifts and social situations, but I've solved every one 870 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 3: of them perfectly, So that's good. Will you hope me 871 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 3: answer a question I'd love to. Okay, let me get 872 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 3: intoto the thing here, let's see. Okay, here we go, 873 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 3: deer bridger and extremely disrespectful guest. A week before Mother's Day, 874 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 3: my husband and kids surprised me in advance with two 875 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 3: tickets to see Hamilton. They were all so proud and 876 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 3: totally impressed with themselves with the gift of Broadway. Scratch 877 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,480 Speaker 3: that off Broadway, as I live in the Midwest and 878 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: any production in Saint Louis is not considered Broadway to me. Okay, 879 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 3: I also know, I mean. 880 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 4: She's disappointed with the gift because she's like, this is 881 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 4: not quite Broadway. Anyway ahead, this is. 882 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 3: Very I mean, I'm I'm gonna reserve my thoughts and 883 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 3: opinions for this email to the very end, because my 884 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 3: heart is racing. Let's just say my heart is racing. Okay. 885 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,720 Speaker 3: So I also noticed that he spent a ludicrous amount 886 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 3: of money four hundred and fifty dollars through a third 887 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 3: party ticket agency and it was non refundable. Then had 888 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 3: the nerve to say I could take anyone I wanted, 889 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm not offering a friend a 890 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five dollars ticket on a Wednesday 891 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 3: night to an off way Broadway It ran rendition of Hamilton, 892 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 3: like I could have watched this on Disney with the 893 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 3: original Broadway cast. Okay, I made my husband go with me, 894 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 3: and the tickets were second to last row at the top. 895 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 3: We managed to move to lower seats and enjoyed the show. 896 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 3: The dilemma I'm in, So that's not exactly the dilemma. Apparently. 897 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 3: The dilemma I'm in is what do I get this 898 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 3: man for Father's Day? He orders stuff for himself on 899 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 3: the daily from Amazon. It's now boiled down to Cologne. 900 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 3: What can I get a guy who gets everything for himself? 901 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 3: Hints he loves the Saint Louis Cardinals, Saint Louis Blues, 902 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 3: and two button Polos. Thanks in advance for your help, Allen. Okay, 903 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 3: so basically what we've gotten the information about this man 904 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 3: makes him seem like he's a store in the Saint 905 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 3: Louis Airport. But okay, so this person, what are we 906 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: talking about. That's a lovely gift that the family gave 907 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 3: her the two. 908 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 4: Tickets that he hates the gift. 909 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 3: She absolutely her children and husband script and saved for 910 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 3: months to buy these tickets. 911 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 4: But she thinks he's very wasteful because because of the surcharge. 912 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 3: For the She's a Broadway snob. 913 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,920 Speaker 4: She's a Broadway you know, she could have in the 914 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 4: amount of money that they've spent for the surcharge, she 915 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 4: could have gotten the flight. Sounds like alone to New 916 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,720 Speaker 4: York is what she really. 917 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 3: Well, she's going to She's gonna be on a lot 918 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 3: of flights alone. Keeps acting like this. 919 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like if she doesn't know what 920 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 4: to get him and he has everything, maybe divorce. 921 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 3: Paper kind of on like a Cardinals stationary. Maybe a 922 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: Cardinals station Do they ever do theme stationary for divorce papers? 923 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 3: That's a business I could get into Sharks today. I 924 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 3: bring to you my business. 925 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 4: Uh, just to sort of lighten it up a little, 926 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 4: you know, But it's on your favorite team stationary. 927 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 3: You can't be mad. 928 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 4: You can't be mad. You get to keep the stationary. 929 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,439 Speaker 3: This is basically like going to the game. Okay, first 930 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 3: of all, well, I think I've already said first of 931 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 3: all a bunch of times, But I've just had a 932 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 3: lot of first of all opinions about did I even 933 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 3: say it's from Ellen Ellen the Broadway? This is a 934 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,919 Speaker 3: Broadway tour. These are good performers. That's a world class show. 935 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let's not spit on them. 936 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it was a fantastic show. And you've 937 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 3: just got a horrible attitude. 938 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 4: I think that. Okay, I think it's hard when you 939 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 4: have expectations for present generally, you know, right, I don't 940 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 4: know if she had expectations for an amazing present or not. 941 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 3: It sounds like she did, but I do think. 942 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 4: It's always if you do, you're almost always let. 943 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 3: Down, Yes, because it's supposed to be a surprise, so 944 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,879 Speaker 3: it shouldn't be your expectations, right. 945 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 5: Maybe it's the fact that maybe the surcharge something about 946 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,720 Speaker 5: that is making me think because I recently just bought 947 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 5: tickets to see Into the Woods and I had to 948 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 5: spend a lot more on stub hub together. 949 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 4: Because I did it last minute kind of not last minute, 950 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 4: but like it was also a short run. But so 951 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 4: maybe they were immediately, you know, all bought up immediately, 952 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 4: and they were all always like that. But there's a 953 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 4: chance that maybe was bothering her is that he bought 954 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 4: it probably the night before Mother's Day, and so there 955 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 4: was a laugh. 956 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 3: Oh, if you had thought about. 957 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 4: Me, maybe that could be behind it, because it really 958 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 4: because if you had really planned and thought and you know, 959 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 4: put a lot of effort in it, there might not 960 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 4: have been that big surcharge. 961 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 3: Right, And then that makes perfect sense. 962 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 4: It would have felt like he considered hern more so, 963 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 4: maybe she's just feeling taken granted. I don't know. 964 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 3: No, I think you've gotten right to the heart of this. 965 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 3: And it makes me think that Ellen is a ticket 966 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 3: saleswoman and she works at the box office and she's 967 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 3: pissed that he didn't go to her, and she sees 968 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 3: these third party apps or whatever kind of coming for 969 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,319 Speaker 3: her job and it was a sore spot for her. 970 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 4: It is. 971 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 3: And meanwhile, she's in a husband with three interests, one 972 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 3: which is two button polos. I don't even know what 973 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 3: that means. Is that is there a polo with three 974 00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 3: tons of buttons? 975 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 4: And that is that considered to be like a whores. 976 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 3: Polo, a whole collection of horlo. 977 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:47,720 Speaker 4: Third button, it goes down to four inches still above 978 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 4: the nipples. 979 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 3: I have a polo that goes to the groin. 980 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 4: I mean, that's just a button down, but it does 981 00:53:59,200 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 4: connect with the. 982 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a tiny to put him on over 983 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 3: your head. It's that j Loo dress she was wearing 984 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 3: officially a polo to the Grammys in two thousand and two. 985 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 3: That's a I believe that was a fifty button polo. 986 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, maybe maybe Ellen, because I feel 987 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 4: like you have issues about the present because he got 988 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 4: you don't like the president. So maybe if he's a 989 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 4: Cardinals fan, you should get him ticket the worst seats 990 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 4: to a Cardinals game in the worst. 991 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,479 Speaker 3: Town, that's way in the last minute. And away game, 992 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 3: you know, like three grand on this stick. Yeah, away 993 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 3: game you buy him twenty minutes before the scalper really 994 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 3: gets you a cash. Yeah, and then see how he feels. 995 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 3: See how Dave feels about that. 996 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 4: I will say, whenever you're playing some kind of experiment 997 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 4: with the other person, it never works. They don't notice, 998 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 4: Like he'll just be like, thanks, honey, I love it. 999 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 4: And you're doing all this. 1000 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,280 Speaker 3: Work, You're doing all this math in your brain thinking 1001 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,720 Speaker 3: it's going to have this amazing Well, it's because you're dealing. 1002 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 3: I mean, in this situation, Ellen's dealing with somebody the 1003 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 3: husband who woke up from a nap the night before 1004 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 3: Mother's Day and remembered and just got on stub Hub 1005 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 3: and bought these expensive tickets to a show that neither 1006 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 3: of them actually wanted to see. So it's kind of 1007 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 3: this marriage is crumbling. 1008 00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't think it's beyond repair, but 1009 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 4: I think it. Yeah, there's an attitude adjustment. 1010 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're at the point where the couple's therapists is 1011 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 3: no longer like gung ho about saving and it's a 1012 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 3: little bit more speaking carefully about how this could end. 1013 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 3: That's just how I'm getting the I mean, Ellen reached 1014 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 3: out obviously to the right right source with this podcast, 1015 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 3: and she's gotten all of the advice that she could 1016 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 3: possibly use. 1017 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 4: I could talk about this for another hour, though I was. 1018 00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 3: Saying, Ellen gave us a lot to unpack. I mean, 1019 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 3: I could have just read the first half of that 1020 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 3: email and said, Ellen, it's time to respect these performers. 1021 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 4: I also think I will say, and like my partner Andrew, 1022 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 4: he's bought me some terrible presents because he waits the 1023 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 4: last minute. I also am the last minute person. But 1024 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 4: I think that I'm somehow, I think I still pull 1025 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 4: it out and get something really good. 1026 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 3: You just think you're that. 1027 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,560 Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes he'll it'll be like Christmas Eve, and he'll 1028 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 4: run out and then come back with a collection of 1029 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 4: odd items that clearly came from one store. 1030 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 3: Like it's pleasure. 1031 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 4: Like on Christmas, I'll open this thing and it's like, oh, 1032 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 4: this is an eighty dollars Japanese wash claw, Like, okay, great, 1033 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 4: it's beautiful. I don't read this, but thank you. I 1034 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,320 Speaker 4: know you panicked. I know you panicked. 1035 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 3: Just write a thoughtful card at that point, I know. 1036 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't know. I would give I would 1037 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 4: give this guy a. 1038 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 3: Pass, give him one pass if you end up at 1039 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 3: Hamilton again next year. This is a pattern, and uh, 1040 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 3: it's time to start thinking about it. I mean, maybe 1041 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 3: next year he takes you to New York. I mean, 1042 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 3: maybe he hears this podcast and it devastates him and 1043 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 3: he knows that he's on borrowed time. 1044 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 4: Right, Maybe you can tell what the direction his efforts 1045 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 4: are going if you just keep getting progressively one row 1046 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 4: closer to the stage. 1047 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 3: With every mother, until eventually he's King George. He's singing 1048 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 3: right into your eyes Oh, he gets down and asks 1049 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 3: you to marry him again. It's so romantic. I mean this, 1050 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 3: this could go in a lot of directions for Ellen 1051 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 3: and Dave, and we wish him the best. 1052 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 4: Yes, I wish them. I wish you guys the best. 1053 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 3: Merredith, we answered the question perfectly on of our idea 1054 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 3: of levels. It was a perfect answer, hopefully. Yeah, perfect answer. 1055 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 3: And I'm sure the listeners are going a bunch of 1056 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 3: listeners are having this exact problem. Now they can apply 1057 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 3: that advice to their own lives. And uh, it could 1058 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 3: lead to a divorce epidemic for all we know. 1059 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 4: Love if you and I became sort of ethicists, right, Uh, yeah, 1060 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 4: of course we fielded questions. 1061 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 3: We should have a like that Radio Collin show. 1062 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 4: Yes, that would be great. 1063 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 3: I mean this is just the beginning of that. I 1064 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 3: can only feel it coming. And Ellen, thank you for 1065 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 3: reaching out. Your problem has been solved. And Meredith, now 1066 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 3: I have a beautiful piece of art to hang in 1067 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 3: my home. 1068 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 4: Can I see it? 1069 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 3: Of course? Have you not seen it yet? 1070 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 4: I haven't seen it because I I well, I mean 1071 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 4: I've seen the photo, but I didn't see what it 1072 00:58:54,280 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 4: ended up looking like. Let's see that Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1073 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 4: looks great. 1074 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 3: It's very sweet. 1075 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 4: It is sweet. 1076 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 3: That rat or raccoon maybe dead, but it left its 1077 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 3: mark on the greatest city in the world. 1078 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 4: It's sort of like, you know, it's Hollywood Walk of 1079 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 4: Fame or whatever you put her. Had a whole little ceremony. 1080 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 3: It paid the twenty five thousand dollars fee and entertainment tonight. 1081 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 4: Was there, Rat, Nancy O'Dell is there? Rat Billy Bush 1082 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 4: is there? 1083 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 3: Billy Bush will do anything. Oh, I've just had a 1084 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 3: wonderful time with you here. This is just being spectacular, 1085 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:49,080 Speaker 3: and I thank you for sending this lovely gift. 1086 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,920 Speaker 4: Hey, oh so you turned around. You're not mad at 1087 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 4: me anymore. 1088 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 3: I'm you know, we got through, we went through a 1089 00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 3: variety of things. We basically got married and divorced with 1090 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 3: Aaron's email, Ellen's email, and I feel like this is 1091 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 3: something I'm going to cherish. 1092 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 4: So maybe what Ellen, Maybe Ellen being hating her presence 1093 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,840 Speaker 4: so much made you appreciate the act of gift giving 1094 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 4: that I gave you that gift, So it made me 1095 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 4: I calculated the whole bit. 1096 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you, and listener, this is the 1097 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 3: end of the podcasts. What do you want me to 1098 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:31,919 Speaker 3: call them? 1099 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 4: I just like that it maybe is just one person. 1100 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 3: There's a single person sitting in a quiet booth somewhere 1101 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 3: in the Midwest. Oh yes, I forgot Thank you. That's 1102 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 3: aspirational for me for someone to listen to this while 1103 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 3: on a boat. If you do listen to it on 1104 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 3: a boat, please reach out. Let the world know that 1105 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:56,479 Speaker 3: you're listening to a podcast while at sea or at lake, 1106 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 3: or at pond, whatever it takes. 1107 01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 4: Or at boat store. 1108 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,919 Speaker 3: Or a boat show or at boat show. We can't 1109 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 3: can't out the boat show audience. We would love to. 1110 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 3: I would love to do a boat show. I will 1111 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 3: do a live show from a boat show. I can 1112 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 3: be in you know, kind of a ski boat recording 1113 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 3: with my guests. So that's a new goal. 1114 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 4: First sound, you'd have to keep the tarbomb and be. 1115 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 3: Underneath just telling everyone to shut up all the times 1116 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:28,640 Speaker 3: turned down. 1117 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 4: That public domain rock music that you're blasting from the 1118 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 4: new Chaparral thirty eight foot bow Rider. 1119 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,440 Speaker 3: That's something we're all going to look forward to in 1120 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 3: the future. I said no gifts at the boat show, 1121 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 3: but until then, the show is over, the podcast is done. 1122 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 3: You've spent an hour or so with us today, and 1123 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 3: I hope you've had the time of your life. And 1124 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 3: I hope that this energy can continue for at least 1125 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 3: another few minutes during your day before things go set 1126 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 3: and you are in a terrible mood. We'll talk again 1127 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 3: next week. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts 1128 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,960 Speaker 3: is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear 1129 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 3: friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by John Bradley. 1130 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 3: The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle 1131 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 3: worker Amy Mannon. You must follow the show on Instagram 1132 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 3: at I said no gifts. I don't want to hear 1133 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,440 Speaker 3: any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of 1134 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 3: all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want 1135 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 3: to see pictures of the gifts. 1136 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 4: I invite? 1137 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Did you hear? Though? A man? Myself perfectly clear? But 1138 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 2: you're a guess, Tom. 1139 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty And I said no gifts. 1140 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 2: Your presences presence and 1141 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Already had too much stuff, So how do you dare 1142 01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: to surbey me?