1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Eight days left until the NFL Draft, and all eyes 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: remain on Shador Sanders, who has a big date with 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: the Giants on Thursday. Bucky Brooks has not budged on 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Shador as his number one quarterback in this class. Bucky's 5 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: gonna join us tonight to tell you why and where 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: he'd like to see the Colorado qb land. Chador's teammate 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Travis Hunter definitely will not be on the board very 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: long next Thursday night. But will he go number two 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: to Cleveland or number three to New York? Here what 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Giants GM Joe Shane had to say today, and Brian 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Boldinger also will be with us to break down the 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: way he sees the top of the draft. Kalaias Campbell 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: was drafted seventeen years ago this month, and he is 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: not done on the field just yet. So why exactly 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: did Kalais go back to the team that selected him 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: fiftieth overall back in two thousand and eight, He'll tell us, 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Joining from Arizona with answers before I'm sure grabbing the 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: early bird special somewhere Welcome inside with the Insider's alongside 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Judy Batista and Ian ral For I am Tom Pelisero. 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: In my head, all I'm calculating is there was some 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: child born the day that Kaleis Campbell was drafted. That 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: child now is a high school senior. That's how long 23 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Kaleis Campbell has been rolling with this thing. There's not 24 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: a better voice in the NFL, not many better guys 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: in the NFL. 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: Cannot wait to have him on the show tonight. 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: We will break down the draft from all angles, and 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: let's start with one out there in New York that 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: has grabbed quite a bit of attention, particularly this week. 30 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: We know the Giants side that man, Russell Wilson. We 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: know that they signed Jameis Winston. We know that Tommy 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: Devido is somewhere there. Yes, if you're a happy Hour, 33 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: that was a Tommy DeVito reference, Drake. 34 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: But how exactly are the Giants. 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: Now navigating the fact they also have the number three pick. 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: They have but a tour of private workouts. Here's what 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: GM Joe Shane had to say today with the. 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: Signing of those two players. I think we put our 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: position ourselves in a position where you know, I don't 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 3: think that's mandatory or something that we're our feet of 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: the fire and we have to do. You know, I 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: think the two guys we signed have played a lot 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: of ball, They've got a lot of skins on the wall, 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: and I do think we've upgraded that room, you know, 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 3: compared to where it was a year ago. I like 46 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: the two guys that we have, and you know, Tommy's 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 3: still in there, and he's won games for us too, 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: and he's still developing, you know. So we're happy with 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: the makeup of the room right now. 50 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: We're happy with the makeup of the room, Judy. But 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: right now they just took a flight to go see 52 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: Schnoor Sanders on Thursday, Jalen Milro on Friday, Tyler Schuck 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: on Saturday. They already worked out Jackson Dark, You've covered 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: that team a long time. What do you make of 55 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: the state of things? What you heard from Joe Shane 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: right there? 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Joe Shane began his press conference 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: by going into great detail about why they're doing all 59 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: these meetings so late in the process. Basically, his explanation was, 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 4: this is just sort of how the calendar came together 61 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: between the Giant's schedule of meetings and the player availability. 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: That's why everything's happening so late. So don't read too 63 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 4: much into the timing. However, you can read plenty into 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: the fact that they're doing a lot a lot of 65 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: homework on the quarterbacks in this class other than cam Ward, 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: the quarterbacks that they think might be available when they're picking. 67 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: Here are some of the things that Joe Shane said 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: that caught my attention. He was asked repeatedly about do 69 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 4: you need to draft a young franchise quarterback and he said, yeah, 70 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: everybody would like one of those. Every GM wants one 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: of those, and this is the quote. But the value 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: has to be right or it doesn't matter you get 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: that one wrong. You've just got to get that right. 74 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: When you're in a position to get the right one 75 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: at the right time, that's when you pulled the trigger. 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: And he was asked about balancing need versus best player 77 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: available when you're on the board, and he said, again, 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: if you go need based, that's when I think sometimes 79 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: you can make mistakes at times. Again, I like to 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: go in so you're not backed into a corner where 81 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: you have to take a certain position, and you can 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: take the best player available. So they're picking at number three, 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: they're going to have options, he said multiple times they 84 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: like the players who they know are going to be 85 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 4: available at three. Certainly we expect that to be Travis 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 4: Hunter or Abdul Carter, whoever the Browns don't take at 87 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 4: number two, we would expect one of those to be 88 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: there at number three. I would say that my takeaway 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: from Joe Shane talking about the quarterbacks is they're doing 90 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: a whole lot of homework, not necessarily to take one 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: with a third overall pick. 92 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: Although they can. 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 5: And this is the thing that I keep coming back to, Judy, 94 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 5: is look for the New York Giants, if they like 95 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 5: a quarterback, if they like either Shador Sanders or Jackson 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 5: Dart or Tylers or Jalen Milroe or literally whoever, if 97 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 5: they see that quarterback as a franchise guy, then it 98 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 5: makes sense to take him at three. And I know 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 5: there's been a lot of discussion. Maybe the Giants could say, 100 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: all right, well, if this guy's available laden one, and 101 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 5: we could come back in the first. There's no guarantee 102 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 5: of any of that, because if they're thinking that, maybe 103 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns you think of that, maybe other teams 104 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 5: are thinking that, maybe a team like the Rams that 105 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 5: doesn't need a quarterback this year, might need one next year. 106 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 5: Or maybe the Steelers, who doesn't need one. Probably we'll 107 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 5: see this one this year of them might need one 108 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 5: next year. They might take all their available quarterbacks. The 109 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 5: only way the Giants can guarantee for absolute certainty that 110 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 5: they get the quarterback they want is to take him 111 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 5: at three. So Joe Shane is right, they do not 112 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 5: need to take one. That is why you sign all 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: these quarterbacks. That is why you basically set your room 114 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 5: and set your roster before the draft. Most of the 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 5: teams are like that. There's not a ton of places 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: where you're like, all right, this team needs this player. 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 5: That said, if you view one of the quarterbacks as 118 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 5: a franchise guy, the only way to make sure that 119 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 5: you get them is to take them at three. 120 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: As Judy said, the one that they did not work 121 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: out privately cam Ward because he is the presumptive number 122 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: one overall pick to the Tennessee Titans, but he's not 123 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: the number one quarterback on Bucky Brooks board. Give Bucky 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: credit for consistency. He has stood pat on this. His 125 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: latest Top five at every position version three point zero 126 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: still has Shador Sanders a top that list ahead of 127 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: Cam Ard, Jackson, Dart and Company. Let's welcome in Bucky 128 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: Brooks to the conversation as well as our Brian Baldinger. Bucky, 129 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: you have been very firm. You have not backed off 130 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: this in any way with Shador centers. What do you like, 131 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: what do you think is the best fit for him 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: in this draft? 133 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 6: Well, I think it's important to note that this isn't 134 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 6: about where people are getting pig This is about how 135 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 6: I expect him to play at the next level over 136 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 6: the next two. 137 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 7: To three years. 138 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 6: Every quarterback guru, every offensive coordinator, head coach that I've 139 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 6: ever talked to, has says the quarterback is about three things. 140 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 6: It's about toughness, it's about accuracy, and it's about decision making. 141 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 6: When I look at shadurs and is on tape, he 142 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 6: exhibits all of those qualities. 143 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: In space. 144 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 6: The toughness of there, we saw him getting knocked around 145 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 6: a ton his two years at Colorado and even before 146 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 6: that at Jackson State. Accuracy, the ball placement is superb. 147 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 6: He consistently delivers the ball in the strikes, and he 148 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 6: throws with touch, timing and anticipation, and then finally the 149 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 6: decision making. This is a guy that understands the offense, 150 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 6: manages the offense, has worked in a pro style system 151 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 6: with pro coaching on the Pat Shermer. To me, he 152 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 6: exhibits all the qualities to be a really successful franchise 153 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 6: quarterback in a perfect world. You ask me where I 154 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 6: would love to see him go. I would love to 155 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 6: see him land in LA with the Rams at the 156 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 6: bottom of the first round. Matthew Stafford has another year 157 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 6: to play, maybe two. Shadir Sanders to me, is a 158 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 6: perfect fit in that offense. Dominant run game, smart, interchangeable 159 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 6: receivers allow him to throw the ball all over the yard. 160 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: To me, La is perfect for sure, Bucky. 161 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 8: If he's all those things that you described, John should 162 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 8: take him at three. 163 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: They need a quarterback. They haven't had one since Eli. 164 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 8: They've gone through Owner, They've built the general manager, head coaches, coordinators, 165 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 8: offense line coaches. I mean, just keep shuffling them through 166 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 8: because they can't get that position correct. 167 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: Now. 168 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 8: I do believe Joe Shane what he says by signing 169 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 8: Russell and sign this jamis the room is better and 170 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 8: they don't feel the pressure to take the quarterback at three. 171 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 8: But I'm with you and a lot of the traits 172 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 8: that Chadure exhibits and has exhibit. And I think the 173 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 8: Giants are going back out there to Colorada not to 174 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 8: just do more diligence. They were there on April fourth, 175 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 8: they were there twelve days ago watching Shador. 176 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Throw the football. They saw a lot there today. 177 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 8: But I think they need to really get this right 178 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 8: and maybe another visit out there, sit down, like go 179 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 8: through the offense. The offense was incredibly simple because it 180 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 8: had to be. They only had four receivers in a quarterback. 181 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 8: Everybody else is just a free agent player, and so 182 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 8: they ran Chip Kelly's offense there at Colorado, inside receivers, 183 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 8: outside receivers, and Shaduur showed that he can win from 184 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 8: the pocket. He's incredibly tough. He can throw from a 185 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 8: dirty pocket. And to your point, the deeper the ball is, Bucky, 186 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 8: the more accurate the ball is. That might make Belie 187 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 8: Davers pretty happy. 188 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: Bucky Baldy do not move a lot more from you 189 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: guys throughout the course of the show, including on this 190 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: guy Travis Hunter, who Bucky has going at number three 191 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: overall in his latest mock draft two the New York 192 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Giants the other option as Judy mentioned earlier would be 193 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Abduall Carter. Here's what Joe Shane had to say today 194 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: about the options at three that don't involve a QB. 195 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: Travis is a unique individual, you know, again Dave said 196 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: it at the Owners. Mean, he's gonna watch a lot 197 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: of plays on him, So he's he's fun to watch. 198 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: It's it's unique that you know, the ball skills, the 199 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: rout ability and then also the ability to go the 200 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: other side and you know, play corner like you just 201 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: don't see that very often. Yeah, I wouldn't. 202 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 203 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: I wouldn't doubt the kid. I mean he's he's that 204 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: type of athlete and he's had that type of production. 205 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's it's insane, the amount of snapsy played, 206 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: amount of snapsy plays a game, doesn't sit down, you know, 207 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: goes over, gets a drink of water and gets back 208 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: out on the field. So he's got that type of athleticism, 209 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: he's got the right mindset. He's a great kid. So 210 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't doubt him. If you think about any of 211 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: these players you know that you know may or may 212 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: not be in the mix, uh, you know, as a 213 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: unique player like him, that played off the ball for 214 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: two years and then he's only played one season, you know, 215 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: off off the edge and you know, had a really 216 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: good season. You know, then you got Cavon and he 217 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 3: got burns, you got decks in size, you got I mean, 218 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: there's just he gives you a lot of options, you know, 219 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: as a versatile player. He's young, just you know, it's 220 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: twenty one years old and you know, exciting player to watch. 221 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, you can't you can't have enough. 222 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: You can have enough pass. 223 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: Rushers, Judy, if you're just reading body language there, it 224 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: seems joshe might be more fired up about Travis Hunter 225 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: than abdual Carter. It is also the season where everything 226 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: can be micromanaged and overanalyzed. Here, what do you view 227 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: from the Giant's perspective? Is the ideal situation for them 228 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: at number three? 229 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: Well, he did gush about Travis Hunter, as everybody gushes 230 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: about Travis Hunter, just sort of the uniqueness of his ability. 231 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: He also said a whole lot of nice things. 232 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: About Abdul Carter. 233 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 4: By the way, he also made the point that the 234 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: foot injury with autdol Carter is just a non factory. 235 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: He said it would not cause a moment of pause 236 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 4: when you're thinking about Abdul Carter. Joe Shane referenced the 237 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: idea of generational players, and he said, if those guys 238 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: are on the board, you have to take it. It doesn't 239 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: matter if you have other players who play that position 240 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: already on your roster. You can't pass on a player 241 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: like that. And I mean, these are the two players 242 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: who most people have tagged since the beginning of this 243 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: process as generational type talents. Again, I go back to 244 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 4: Shane saying earlier that he feels good about the players 245 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: they know will be on the board when they're picking. 246 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: Presumably that will be one or the other of Travis Hunter, 247 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: Abdul Carter, Shador Sanders should be on the board then, 248 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: and a host of others, So he feels good about 249 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: what's going to be available to them. I think the 250 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: question that it's going to come down to is if 251 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 4: he views one of these guys as a generational player 252 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: and they are available to the Giants, does he pass 253 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 4: on the quarterback, which, as we have all been saying, 254 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: they really need and they would really like to have 255 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: a quarterback, a young quarterback. Did they pass at number 256 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: three on a quarterback to take one of these generational 257 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: type talents or do they maybe even move out of 258 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: the third position entirely. 259 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, And the prospect of a trade was really interesting, 260 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 5: brought up by Joe Shane himself saying that heard from 261 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: a couple of teams behind him and may want to. 262 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 9: Move up now. 263 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 5: Doesn't seem as of right now, like that's something that 264 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: he's really into. But as you guys know, the closer 265 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 5: you get to the draft, the bigger the trade offers come, 266 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 5: the more serious teams are. And perhaps at that point 267 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: Joe Shane will think about it even more. And you 268 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 5: wonder why a team might want to trade up now. Historically, 269 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 5: historically if someone is trading up, it has been for 270 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: a quarterback, right except in this draft you have a 271 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 5: couple illegally players Travis Hunter and Abduk Carter. We've been 272 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 5: talking about them that might make a team come up 273 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 5: just a couple spots and trading if the Giants are 274 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: either said with a quarterback, but believe have absolute certainty 275 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 5: that no one's gonna jump them and take him, or 276 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 5: aren't as in love with some of these prospects as 277 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 5: someone else, they could for sure trade And you look 278 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: at some of the teams that are right there, the 279 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: Jacksonville Jaguars, Patriots probably stick Jacksonville Jaguars, Raiders, Jets, Panthers, Saints. 280 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 5: Saints have been always very aggressive about the guy they like. 281 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: If the Giants are on the cock for Abdul Carter, 282 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 5: no doubt they're gonna get calls and they will at 283 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 5: least have a decision to make. Do they allow someone 284 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 5: to come up and take the best edge rusher in 285 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 5: this draft? 286 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Eight days until we have answers to all these questions. 287 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: One thing we already know, Travis Hunter is not going 288 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: to be in that green room in Green Bay for 289 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: very long. All expectations, Travis Hunter is going to come 290 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: off the board early, and he's got a new place 291 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: on Bucky Brooks board for the top wide receivers in 292 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: this draft. Bucking Baldy back later to talk talk about that. 293 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: That's an old face right there. Yeah, very cool for sure. 294 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 6: Back in the. 295 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: Burgen, that's congrats you. 296 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: So, as I told Manty a few weeks ago, I'm like, 297 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: you've got to see if kalais is rated and continue. 298 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: To play because you're still playing at such a high level. 299 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 9: I thought it would be so awesome to have you back, 300 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 9: you know, ending your career where you started it logo. 301 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 7: I was happy to be, you know, standing, so I'm 302 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 7: the chosen all about it? 303 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: Just like this feels like, oh this Farbar's supposed to 304 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: be there, all right. 305 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 4: Kalais Campbell is going into his eighteenth season, and he's 306 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: returning to where it all starts, he said in his 307 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: own message. Time to finish it with a bang back home. 308 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 4: That's the team, the Arizona Portnalstraction in the second round 309 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight, Allo pro bowler Walter Payton, 310 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: Man the Year and now guest of the Insiders, Kaleis 311 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 4: Campbell joins us from his car, which I must be 312 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: a very large vehicle. Kalais, first of all, congratulations on 313 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: getting back to the desert. Why was it so meaningful 314 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 4: for you to get back there? 315 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 7: You know, I feel like you just it's where all began. 316 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 7: It's a special place, you know. I was actually surprised 317 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 7: how much you motion my head coming back into the building. 318 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 7: But you know, I feel like a team is still 319 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 7: a really good team. Points to have a lot of 320 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 7: cessus year. I feel like I could have a lot 321 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 7: of guns in two and So the combination of like, 322 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 7: you know, when I could bring you my impact, I 323 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 7: could have Pointantine and just the story and just like 324 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 7: the history and coming back home. It mean just made 325 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 7: a lot of sense. 326 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: Glese. 327 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 5: As we mentioned, heading into your eighteenth season, but probably 328 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: your fifth off season in a row where we've asked 329 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: is this the final one? This time it is once again. 330 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 9: Not the on one. 331 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: Did you come close to retiring and what made you 332 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 5: want to keep playing? 333 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the fair question. You know, it crossed my 334 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 7: mind a little bit more this year than a half 335 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 7: of years past. And this is the closest I've ever 336 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 7: been to like, you know, filming content with retirement. But 337 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 7: when it came down to it, I I feel like 338 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 7: I have more offer the game. You know, I'm still 339 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 7: very dominant. You know, I don't get to play with 340 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 7: many players, but I still feel dominate when I'm out 341 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 7: there in the field, and I still love the game, 342 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 7: and I thought I can bring a lot of value 343 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 7: you know, to the any team really, but especially as 344 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 7: of the Cardinals. So it just made sense, you know, 345 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 7: you know, it'll be hard to walk away. 346 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 2: Because I love it so much. 347 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 7: Officially, I have to take my. 348 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 10: Ball and go home. 349 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 7: But right now, man, I'm happy I got one more. 350 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 4: This is an incredible stat that our research department came 351 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: up with, Kalais, your first year in the NFL was 352 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Senior's final season in the NFL. At that point, 353 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior was six years old. 354 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 7: Now is going to be your. 355 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: Teammate Marvin Harton? Really, how are you still performing at 356 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: such a high level at an age when most guys 357 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 4: are already on the golf course. 358 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think they really come down to really just fortune. 359 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 7: God bless me with a lot of health, a lot 360 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 7: of love for the game, and desire to keep going 361 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 7: at any level, you know. And then it's just I 362 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 7: have a great team of bodywork people to help me, 363 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 7: you know, stay available and be on the field. And 364 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 7: then I was always late Bloomberg. So I guess that 365 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 7: finally made a big difference on the batch and think, 366 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 7: but I'm still fill. 367 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: Young to Domini kalay Is. 368 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 5: Last October, we media me especially talking a bunch about 369 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 5: the Baltimore Ravens trying to trade for you. Obviously did 370 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 5: not end up happening, stayed where you were. Then we 371 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 5: find out that the Arizona Cardinals also tried to trade 372 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 5: for you. What did you know about that situation then? 373 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 5: And then was that kind of where in your head 374 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 5: you were like, all right, maybe that's a place where 375 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 5: I want to get back to. 376 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was the first time where it really kind 377 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 7: of like you know, became real. Like you know, so 378 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 7: I literally had like eighteen shouting to trade from the 379 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 7: last year. I sat down with Chris ber and you know, 380 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 7: we were talking through it, and you know, he kind 381 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 7: of asked me, like, where do we want to go 382 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 7: because all the teams come off for the same thing 383 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 7: around the same thing, and so I kind of gave 384 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 7: him a higher key and renumber and U when I 385 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 7: said Arizona, he was kind of surprised, you know, and 386 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, it just makes a lot of sense. 387 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 11: Uh. 388 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 7: But you know that's when I first kind of popped 389 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 7: in my head again, like you know, they're doing some 390 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 7: good things over there, and I wouldn't mind being a 391 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 7: part of that. And when Austin came and started trying 392 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 7: to you know, recruit me a little harder, you know, 393 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 7: you know, Baltimore was in there, some other teams were 394 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 7: in there, but it just made sense to go home, 395 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 7: and you know, I feel like I got a lot 396 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 7: of time you would have an impact a lot of times, 397 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 7: like people actually watched up playing a game, and I 398 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 7: think back to, like, you know, what is it really 399 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 7: what's my biggest motivational factor? And it really came comes 400 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 7: down to, you know, impact. I want to have a 401 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 7: big impact on the field. And I thought, like, I 402 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 7: actually I got the big impact on the field in 403 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 7: the locker room and uh, you know, just in the 404 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 7: community in Arizona. And so I mean my motivation is 405 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 7: I love the damn I'm not ready to stop playing, 406 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 7: and I want to be able to be on the 407 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 7: field to make have a big impact. I thought Arizona 408 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 7: is the right question for that. 409 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 4: Let's talk a little bit about this year's version of 410 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 4: the Cardinals because they've done a lot of work on 411 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: that defensive line this offseason. You of course, but also 412 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: the big headline Josh s what I wonder what your 413 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 4: impressions are of where the defense is right now and 414 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: what you think you can bring to it. 415 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a big influence, right seeing some of 416 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 7: the other pieces that they added, the fregency, you know, 417 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 7: I mean, there are a lot of really good players, 418 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 7: especially in the D line, but D line can be 419 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 7: so dominant, and I feel like games are one of 420 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 7: the laws up front of the churches. You saw down 421 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 7: the Super Bowl and the way Josh went played and 422 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 7: give me that every week you know we're gonna be 423 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 7: tough to beat, you know, And then you got Dalvin. 424 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 7: You know you have some guys are already there. 425 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 9: You know that. 426 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 7: I feel like we're gonna have a good rotation. Everybody 427 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 7: stay's fresh. We just take turns bigger players. And to 428 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 7: me as a as a football lover, I feel like 429 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 7: you win games up front and in the churches. I 430 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 7: feel like the on line has gotten a lot better 431 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 7: than your own Hungary the D line. I feel like 432 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 7: we had a lot of really critical pieces and a 433 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 7: bench everybody else Alma's better. 434 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 5: Clais You have sacked a lot of quarterbacks, a lot 435 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 5: of quarterbacks, uh in your time, And I actually, I 436 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 5: guess theoretically I could have had to research like this 437 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 5: up and I'll just ask you, have you ever sacked Kyler? 438 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 5: And then whether you have or not, what do you 439 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 5: think about uh the quarterback of your once again team? 440 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 9: Yeah? 441 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 7: So actually in a few times, I plenty gets him. 442 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 7: I never technically sacked him, although last year I did 443 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 7: much the ball's hands and he picked it up and 444 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 7: throw it away, So became a force Chamons of force football. 445 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 7: Not a sack, but technically is a sack. I get 446 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 7: credit for it a sack, you know. 447 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,239 Speaker 6: Uh. 448 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: And I think he's as gifted as anybody. 449 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 8: In the league. 450 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 2: Right, he's, you know, incredible talent. 451 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 8: Uh. 452 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 7: You know, had to make every throw. She's a nerd, 453 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 7: tough tackle and you know we can, you know, make 454 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 7: all the ruds. 455 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 6: Uh. 456 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 7: You know, I think we're proper protection giving him on goal. 457 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 7: He's going to make these good points. He's just very 458 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 7: talented and I'm decary to go to war women. 459 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 4: Kalaias, congratulations on getting back to the Arizona Cardinals. 460 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: They're thrilled to have you. 461 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: We are thrilled that you are still playing in the NFL. 462 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: We look forward to talking to you again during the season. 463 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us when we returned. 464 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 6: Thank you. 465 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 5: We're going to talk about the two. 466 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: Way phoenom Travis Hunter. Bucky Brooks has him high on 467 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: his list of best players available in this draft. Bucky 468 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 4: is going to join the show next to talk about 469 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: Travis Hunter. 470 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: Super for Travis Hunter. Emisode Hunter. 471 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 11: The best part of our offense. 472 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: Put the ball in the end zone? 473 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 10: Touchdown? 474 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: What Travis Hunter just keeps going. 475 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 11: How do I make a difference on defense? Locking down 476 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 11: the best receiver and taking the ball away? 477 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: Picked off Hunter? And people tell me how to choose 478 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: one or the other. 479 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 9: I just don't. 480 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 11: They've not in my shoes and they ain't never been 481 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 11: in my shoes. Travish Hunter, receiver, defensive back, Colorado. My 482 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 11: first football memory is probably when I was nine years old, 483 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 11: the first time I touched as ball score a touchdown. 484 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 11: I definitely remember that feeling. You know, it's nothing like 485 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 11: putting the ball in the end zone. My feeling always 486 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 11: wanted me to be great, wanted me to be different, 487 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 11: wanted me to do things that they have never done before. 488 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 4: The twenty twenty four. 489 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: Heisman, and Ward goes to Travis. 490 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 11: Hunters what the Heisman Trophy representative Neil means that whatever 491 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 11: everyone was saying, that all the doubts, it was that 492 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 11: trophy was an honor to prove everybody wrong and tell 493 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 11: him that I can do whatever I put my man to. 494 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 11: My relationship with coach Trumas, I can follow in some relationship. 495 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 11: I can go to him for anything. You know, he 496 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 11: understands me. Me and Coach Trumb fish together a lot. 497 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 11: Fishing is always competitive. We always try to see who 498 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 11: can catch some those fish. And the last two. 499 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 2: Times sophomoret I might here whooping him. 500 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 11: The NFL draft means a lot to me and my family. 501 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 11: There'll be some bettersweet emotions. I just spent that time 502 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 11: with my family and we just have fun being ready 503 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 11: to get to my next destination. Hopefully I'll get to 504 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 11: be the first person off the board. 505 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 5: Man, I'm laughing thinking about Travis Hunter, the nine year 506 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: old just being the absolute sensation in Pop Warner football. 507 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 5: I love those love to see a little more of 508 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: those videos. Travis Hunter now the number one prospect on 509 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 5: Bucky Brooks's top five receiver three point zero three point zero, 510 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 5: which means, by the way, we are almost there. Let 511 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 5: us welcome back to the show, Bucky and Baldy Bucket. 512 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 9: We'll start with you. 513 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 5: We have known that Travis Hunter is a great athlete, 514 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 5: and he has been the top corner on your list 515 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 5: really throughout. Now he is the top receiver after being 516 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 5: I believe unranked previously. Tell us what led to that 517 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 5: in what you think of Travis hunt. 518 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 6: Well, when I think about Travis Hunter when he's an 519 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 6: ath if he was college recruiting, that's what he would 520 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 6: be listed as because he is a two way contributor 521 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 6: on office and defense. For me, I really didn't know 522 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 6: if he was going to be the best fit at 523 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 6: wide receiver, so I put him at dB because finding 524 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 6: someone that's six yet one eighty eight, who has great 525 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 6: ball skills and instincts, that's what you want. But when 526 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 6: I talk to people close to the program and coach Frann, 527 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 6: they say, look, this dude really wants to play both 528 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 6: in the league, and so when you look at the tape, 529 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 6: he's certainly worthy of being wires one in dB one 530 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 6: CB one. The thing about Travis Hunner that is unique. 531 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 6: This is what he's always done. As a high school coach. 532 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 6: I can tell you most of the time you take 533 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 6: your best player and you do use them both ways. 534 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 6: Because Travis has not only done it in high school, 535 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 6: he did it his entire time in college. I believe 536 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 6: he's one of the few people that can. 537 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: Go to the NFL and do it. 538 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 6: It doesn't mean he has to take one hundred percent 539 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 6: of the snaps on offense and defense, but he certainly 540 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 6: can play the majority of the time on both. 541 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: Sides of the ball and make an impact. 542 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 6: I'm a believer put your best eleven on the field, 543 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 6: and if he's one of the best eleven on offense 544 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 6: and one of the best eleven on defense, as a coach, 545 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 6: you're probably wise to put him on the field and 546 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 6: let him do his thing on both sides of the ball. 547 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 8: I mean, Bucky, he was the best player coming out 548 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 8: of high school. He's the best player in the country 549 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 8: coming out of college. He's the best when you watch 550 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 8: him now, his best trained might be that he's just indefatigable, 551 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 8: like he just doesn't fatigue. But when you watch his interception, 552 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 8: d real Bucky, Like he plays at a very high level. 553 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: Like he's a thief. 554 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 8: Like his ball skills and how he baits quarterbacks high 555 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 8: low concepts, how he'll sink on the underneath rout but 556 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 8: drop and take the deep route away from him behind him. 557 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: He does this stuff all the time. And his ability 558 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: to adjust to the ball right there, I. 559 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 8: Mean, we can show playoff to play that You're gonna 560 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 8: show here his ability to adjust to the ball in 561 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 8: the Air is as good as any receiver in his draft, 562 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 8: and probably as good as the receiver you know, said 563 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 8: the Garrett Wilson's the world that have come out and 564 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 8: really show them what they can do in the NFL. 565 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 8: He can do all those things, and his hang time 566 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 8: and just his ability to get his hands on the ball. 567 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 8: He had that probe day with Shador the other day. 568 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 8: He didn't even wear gloves, Bucky like he just like 569 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 8: those gloves can catch a ball. 570 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: Anybody. We all could be All pros with those gloves. 571 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: He doesn't even need them. 572 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 8: The hands are sticky and he can't wait to get 573 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 8: his hands on. Of offense or defense. You got to 574 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 8: play in both ways. 575 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 7: You just do. 576 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna prove two musicians with one player? 577 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, just who We're clear, And I would never want 578 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 5: to lie to our viewers where I value greatly. I 579 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 5: would not be an all pro with those called. Some 580 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 5: people might, but I certainly would not. Bucky, I want 581 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 5: to narrow out. I want to zero win in the 582 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 5: running back position. Cam Scattabo is a little bit of 583 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: a sensation at the end of the college football season. 584 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 5: I would say star probably not as bright in the 585 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 5: draft season, but certainly someone who's going to get drafted 586 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 5: to believe on Friday, tell us the movement that he 587 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 5: has had on your top top five lists. 588 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 6: Well, I think the big thing with Cam Scatterby, would 589 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 6: you just wanted to see what the time was going 590 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 6: to be for the forty. That's kind of like the 591 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 6: natural progression of a scout to make sure you check 592 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 6: off all the boxes. 593 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: But it's Pro Day. 594 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 6: But now we're in a new era of scouting. 595 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 2: It doesn't really matter what you run. 596 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 6: It's more so how he plays and how he plays 597 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 6: on tape, and he is one of the best football 598 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 6: players in the draft on tape. This is a guy 599 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 6: that runs with power. He has great balance, he has 600 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 6: great footwork and vision. 601 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 2: He is a work or. 602 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 6: It's meaning the competitive stamina shows up because he can 603 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 6: have a heavy workload. But it's not just the physicality 604 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 6: and toughness that he shows as an inside runner. It's 605 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 6: being able to catch the ball outside the backfield and 606 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 6: to do so many different things. He is a true 607 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 6: fee down running back who relishes contact. Might want to 608 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 6: take that back so he can play all seventeen games, 609 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 6: but he is a workhorse runner. Someone that I believe 610 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 6: is going to have an outstanding career International Football League 611 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,719 Speaker 6: because he can do anything and everything that you want 612 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 6: to see at RB one do and he uplifted the 613 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 6: team in Arizona State where you saw what he performed 614 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 6: like when he was the man. 615 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: I am all about camp. 616 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 6: Scattered who I believe Day two is going to be 617 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 6: a perfect fit for a team that is looking for a. 618 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: RB won Bucky. Sometimes, you know, when you scout, you 619 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: start from their. 620 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 8: Last game, which was a bold game against Texas, and 621 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 8: you work backwards. Texas had no answer for him. We 622 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 8: know how talented Texas is. They couldn't they couldn't stop 623 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 8: in the run game. They couldn't stop in the receiving game. 624 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 8: In ninety nine yards receiving, he drops that right foot 625 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 8: right should the band just drops it right on you. 626 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: He's fun to study. 627 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 8: I kind of made a couple of days ago Bucky 628 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 8: to David Montgomery because David Montgomery didn't run fast coming 629 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 8: out of Iowa State. But David Montgomery is a contact runner. 630 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 8: Detroit still starts him and from a Jamier Gibbs and so, 631 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 8: and he's six years into this business and he's still 632 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 8: doing the same things he did at Iowa State, still 633 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 8: doing the same things he did come out of high 634 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 8: school in Toledo, Ohio. I think Scattaboy is going to 635 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 8: be one of those guys It's going to be hard 636 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 8: to keep them off the field when he get him 637 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 8: in there. 638 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 5: You know, Bucky Carson Sweeshinger has been a little bit 639 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 5: of a curiosity this draft season, starting to get a 640 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 5: little bit of steam, like maybe he somehow sneaks into. 641 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: The first round. 642 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 5: I know someone that coaches really like he's had some 643 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 5: movement on your linebacker top five lists as well. 644 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 10: Detail that for us. 645 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 6: So Espresiman is a guy that grew up right down 646 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 6: the street for me, so I had a chance to 647 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 6: watch him in high school at Oakshisht High Schoo a 648 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 6: walk on at UCLA, does everything that you want to 649 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 6: see as a special team with just a special teams 650 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 6: demon all on the field, patiently waited for his opportunity 651 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 6: to get on the field, gets on the field as 652 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 6: an every down linebacker, and he plays the game faster 653 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 6: than the opponent, meaning his instincts awareness, his film studying 654 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 6: preparation allows him to anticipate what's about to happen before 655 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 6: it even unfolds. And then when you see him play 656 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 6: side on the sideline, he eats up everything tackling machine. 657 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 6: And even though he's only a one year starter, to me, 658 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 6: he is a coach's dream as a position. He can 659 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 6: take what you talk about on the board and put 660 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 6: it in practice on the field, and he's only going 661 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 6: to get better with more reps. 662 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: Love him. As a player. 663 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 6: He exactly what you want as a blue color linebacker. 664 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 8: And he's six two and a half or two on 665 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 8: forty two pounds. He's got signs, but Bucky, you hit 666 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 8: it like. His instincts allow him to play fast and 667 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 8: make a lot of plays. 668 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: He reminds me of. 669 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 8: Fred Warner coming out of BYU project him to be 670 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 8: Fred Warner. But Fred Warner started day one. It is 671 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 8: is because of his instincts and how he played a game, 672 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 8: and it's one year of massive production. I've had one 673 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 8: defensive coordiner you know. Tell me that when he went 674 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 8: to work him out, he said, meeba, at such and 675 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 8: such a place, at such and such a time. He 676 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 8: wanted to see if if he had that thing about 677 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 8: where he's going to show up, find the place and 678 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 8: then meet him. Oh, he was there five minutes early. 679 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 8: You know, like he's just he's going to be a 680 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 8: good student of the game. I think he's got a 681 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 8: bright future at the NFL level bucket because of how 682 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 8: fast he plays and the instincts that he plays with. 683 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 5: Read all the latest on Bucky's top five list to 684 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 5: draft this about a week away. Cannot even believe this 685 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: nfl dot Com slash top five Bucky Baldy, thank you 686 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 5: very much for your insights as always, although you're going 687 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 5: to be back, so it's someone else will be thanking 688 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 5: you in a minute. 689 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: Tyron Smith making it official, retiring as a Dallas Cowboy 690 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: after fourteen seasons, thirteen of them in Dallas. He made 691 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: eight Pro Bowls, well worth the investment the Dallas made 692 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: when a fresh face Prodigondell handed him that jersey the 693 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: ninth overall pick in a twenty eleven draft. Here's what 694 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Stephen Jones had to say about the Cowboys plans in 695 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: this year's draft. 696 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 10: Yeah. I don't necessarily see us moving up based on 697 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 10: the way the board's coming together, but you know, could 698 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 10: see a situation where we'd moved down. But we're also 699 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 10: you know, you always look at that pick. We've had 700 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 10: some you know, good things happened to us, you know, 701 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 10: just outside of the top ten with guys like Andre 702 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 10: Ware and Micah Parsons and Zach Martin Hall of Fame 703 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 10: type players that are you know that fall to you 704 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 10: and you just pick them, And that very well could 705 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 10: be the case in this draft. 706 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: Let's bring Bucky and Baldy back into the conversation. Bucky 707 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys on the number twelve overall pick. In a perfect world, 708 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: if you're not gonna move, they're not going up. Who 709 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: can they hope falls. 710 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: To them right there at twelve. 711 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 6: So this is such a tough one because if you 712 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboys, the Cowboys have always been at the 713 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 6: best when the offensive line is dominant and they have 714 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 6: an elite level running back. 715 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: Playing in the die position. 716 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 6: And so to me, a lot of it depends on 717 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 6: the board. I'm gonna go right now and talk about 718 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 6: the offense line because I know Baldy wants to do it. 719 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 6: I'm gonna steal this shine. So let's talk about the 720 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 6: offensive line and who could be there. They need to 721 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 6: replace some. 722 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: Of the guys that have gone. Zach Martin walked up 723 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 2: the door this year. 724 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 6: You lost Turmer Smith a year ago, so now you 725 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 6: got to find somewhat up front that can do it. 726 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 6: I'man Meimbo could be interesting in terms of his athleticism, 727 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 6: his size, and the total package that he brings to 728 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 6: the table. This is a physical dude that has great 729 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 6: movement skills. And when we were talking about the Great 730 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 6: Wall of Dallas, they all are big people movers. So 731 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 6: he fits the bill when it comes to that. And 732 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 6: if you're the Dallas Cowboys, particularly led by Brian Schottenheimer, 733 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 6: son of Marty Schenhaimer who coined Marty Ball, we're doing 734 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 6: run the ball over and over and over again. You 735 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 6: got to be able to move the people off the ball. 736 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 6: To me, the Missouri product would be terrific. But there's 737 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 6: also other guys like Tyler Buyer and Kevin Byer's or whatever. 738 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: You can't go wrong. 739 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 6: Just take a big offensive line and put the best 740 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 6: five out there and played Cowboys football, which means run 741 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 6: the boot ball, control the clock, dominate the line of scripts. 742 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: Well, look, Bucky, I mean you didn't steal my thunder. 743 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 8: I mean look remember when they drafted Travis Frederick and 744 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 8: everybody just crucified it, and then the other day was 745 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 8: making Pro Bowl off the Pro Bowl and solidified their 746 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 8: line when they drafted Tyron Smith, who just announced the retirement. 747 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: I mean that run that he. 748 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 8: Had at left tackle. Forget about how long Romo or 749 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 8: Dak needed to hold the ball. He gave him all 750 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 8: the time he needed, you know, and Zach Martin every 751 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 8: single play that basically Zeke Elliott ran ended up behind 752 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 8: Zach mart So they never go wrong when they draft 753 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 8: a great offensive line. So that's part of it. 754 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: But also, I mean you'd like be able to hand off. 755 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: I mean if they could. 756 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 8: Somehow they got a lot of picks, and I know 757 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 8: what they just said about not trading out of that 758 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 8: spot at twelve, but if Ashton Genty is available after 759 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 8: pick number six, somehow he's still hanging around. Like Ashton 760 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 8: Genty looks like a cowboy running back to me, I 761 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 8: played with Dorset, Like we all know what Emmett Smith was. 762 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 8: We all watched Zeke in his prime. DeMarco Murray led 763 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 8: the league in rushing. Like they need star power at 764 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 8: DEPTICI I don't believe Devonte Williams or Miles Sanders or 765 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 8: either one of those guys. 766 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: They look like guys that are at their end of 767 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 2: their careers and they can fill in. 768 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 8: But if think you get a star at running back, 769 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 8: you some of those extra picks that they have to 770 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 8: get there. 771 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 2: I think that would be a good move for them. 772 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: Bucky, Thank you, Baldy, do not move more from you 773 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: coming up on this show. We got a lot more 774 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: for you on the Insiders, including now, look at that 775 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: Giants quarterback room. It's got Russell Wilson, it's got Jamis Wisden, 776 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: it's got maybe. 777 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: A rookie coming in as well. 778 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: Is this actually gonna work in New York? Jeffer Jday 779 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: is here to reset rosters for the Giants and more. 780 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: Next on the inst. 781 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 4: We are eight days out from the NFL Draft. There 782 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 4: has already been an awful lot of resetting of rosters. 783 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about teams that quite frankly, needed a. 784 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: Lot of resetting of their rosters. 785 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 4: These were the bottom dwellers of the NFC last season. 786 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 4: Jeffrey gig and Baldy returns. All right, Jeffrey, let's start 787 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 4: with the New York Giants. Are they going to get 788 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 4: it right with the quarterback position? 789 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 9: That's a great question and alluming question for them. Judy, 790 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 9: you look at their quarterback situation bringing in Russell Wilson 791 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 9: and Jamis Winston. That can't get people fired up about 792 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 9: a team that won three games last year. I think 793 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 9: this comes down to what they do in the draft 794 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 9: and that they're able to find a young quarterback that 795 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 9: brings some hope into there. We know they're working out 796 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 9: Shador Sanders. Maybe that's an option there, but they have 797 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 9: to find somebody. Baldy, it can give me some light 798 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 9: at the end of this tunnel because these two quarterbacks 799 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 9: are not the answer. 800 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: But Jeffer, just think about the division of the ring. 801 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 8: They're the division with the Super Bowl MVP and the 802 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 8: offensive rookie of the Year in Jalen Hurts and Jayden 803 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 8: Daniels and Dak Prescott has been a proven veteran quarterback 804 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 8: with star power for. 805 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: A long time. 806 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 8: I mean, that's the division of the ring, and so 807 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 8: you kind of measure yourself against each other. It's been 808 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 8: a long drought since Eli Manning retired and they've got 809 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 8: to get this right. 810 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 4: All right, Let's look at the Chicago Bears. How does 811 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 4: new head coach Ben Johnson get the best out of 812 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams but doing the. 813 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 9: Same things he did in Detroit with Jared Goff, which 814 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 9: is building the offensive lineup and went out and got 815 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 9: Joe Toney and Jonah Jackson, Drew Dolman, and then finding 816 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 9: that second running back to pair with Deandres Flifth like 817 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,240 Speaker 9: he had in Detroit with David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. 818 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 9: I think if he does that, it takes a lot 819 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 9: of pressure off Caleb Williams doesn't have to play over himself. 820 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 9: He can avoid some of those sacks trying to extend 821 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 9: plays in Baldy. You have to light the talent that 822 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 9: he has around him there in Chicago with Ben Johnson 823 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 9: coming in, I do I agree. 824 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 8: And you know when Ben Johnson was in Detroit, they 825 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 8: spent a high pick on Pinney Sewel and he's the 826 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 8: first team All Pro right tackle and they could pretty 827 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 8: much with him there, solidifying that line what they had 828 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 8: with Ragnow and Taylor Decker in a group, they could 829 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 8: run a very sophisticated offense and the quarterback could flourish. 830 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: They've got about him. 831 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 8: Now, do they continue that offense line building year or 832 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 8: maybe go for that star paleer running back like they 833 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 8: did with Jamior Gibbs and people question it. They don't 834 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 8: question that pick in Detroit anymore. 835 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 4: That the forty nine ers have one of the biggest 836 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 4: remaining off season questions. How are they going to handle 837 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 4: the brock Party contract extension. 838 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 9: Oh, that's a big one because you can make the 839 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 9: argument that he's not a quarterback at the level of 840 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 9: a Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. 841 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: Some of the higher paid guys. 842 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 9: But you look at some of the guys who are 843 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 9: getting fifty five million dollars a year and up I 844 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 9: was like Dak Prescott and Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence 845 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 9: and Tua Tugabay Lowe. He's more than those guys have 846 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 9: league So I think this is going to be in 847 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 9: that range for brock Party. 848 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: But the big question is how. 849 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 9: Does it affect this team moving forward because they've had 850 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 9: to do a lot of cost cutting in this offseason 851 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 9: that at core is getting older, baldy, and really it's 852 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 9: like that division they're in, it's not going to be 853 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 9: easy to win games with an expensive quarterback moving forward. 854 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 8: Well, I believe Jed York and his staff the owner, 855 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 8: will get the contract done. Now they've had to release 856 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 8: a lot of players to probably get there. But this 857 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 8: team needs to rebuild their defensive line. Robert Silo's out 858 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,919 Speaker 8: there right now. Like they when they were really wrong 859 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 8: outside of the play at Rock Party, their defensive front, 860 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 8: they were some angry sharks getting after opposing quarterbacks. 861 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: They need help. 862 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 8: And John Lynch was at the Senior Bowl this year 863 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 8: studying this crop defensive linement. They need to get two 864 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 8: two guys with their picks this year out of this 865 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 8: crop that. 866 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 2: Caught his feet. Make me something to really fear, all right, Jeffrey. 867 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 4: Finally, New Orleans Saints suddenly have a potentially very very 868 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 4: big quarterback injury prop them with Derek Carr. 869 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, and the question coming in was where they're 870 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 9: going to take a quarterback in the first round, regardless 871 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 9: of what was happening with Derek Carr. But now with 872 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 9: that shoulder injury and there's talk about how long he 873 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 9: wants to be there, it just seems like it makes 874 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 9: all the sense in the world for them to be 875 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 9: looking at quarterback with that ninth overall picker somewhere in 876 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 9: the first round, because we know Kellen Moore probably wants 877 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 9: his own quarterback. We know Sudar Sanders might be there 878 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 9: at nine. Jackson Dart is a very exciting player with 879 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 9: a lot of hype around him, Baldy. 880 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: And so if you're starting a new regime with an. 881 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 9: Offensive minor head coach, these guys always want their own 882 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 9: guy calling the signals in the huddle, no question. 883 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 8: And you know, if you look at just Kellen Moore's 884 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 8: history of being a quarterback himself, actually being coached by 885 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 8: his father at that position, playing in quarterback, working with 886 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 8: Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert, and now the Super Bowl MVP, 887 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 8: like he deserves that opportunity to develop his quarterback and 888 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 8: build his offense around the quarterback, whoever it might be. 889 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 2: And so I think that's where it starts right now. 890 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 8: With no Oreans And look, maybe Derek Carr can come back, 891 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 8: he contribute, but regardless, they're going to need a quarterback. 892 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 2: People in New Orleans feel like they need a new 893 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: quarterback and will somebody to grow with. 894 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 8: And so going to be a good opportunity for Kellen 895 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 8: Moore to almost hand pick his guy and start building 896 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 8: around the towns of that particular player. 897 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 4: Baldy, Jeffrey, thank you, and you guys know as well 898 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: as I do. You can't have a draft season without 899 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 4: talking about maybe probably the greatest draft pick in NFL history, 900 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 4: a historic day. The anniversary is today when we return. 901 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: News tonight out of Chicago. The Bears locking up one 902 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: of their core defenders. As Ian reported just moments ago, 903 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: Bears extending linebacker TJ. Edwards on a two year, twenty 904 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: million dollar deal. One of their big three agents signing 905 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 1: today a couple of years ago, now getting paid again. 906 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm Neil done by his agent, Steve Krrick of Wasserman 907 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: was twenty five years ago. Today, the Patriots turned in 908 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: one of the most faithful draft cards in NFL history. Yes, 909 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 1: that's some interesting handwriting right there, but that says Tom Brady, 910 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: quarterback for Michigan, the one hundred and ninety ninth overall pick. 911 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: And really, Judy, when you go back and you watch 912 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 1: that Combine tape once again, it's hard to imagine what 913 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: the NFL didn't see. 914 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: This is amazing. 915 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 4: First of all, shout out to our good friend Scott Pioli, 916 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 4: who is texting me right now about the Mets dropping 917 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 4: two to the Twins. He wanted me to remember that 918 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 4: he was on the staff when they picked Brady. I 919 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 4: mean If they had known what Brady was going to 920 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 4: turn into, everybody would have taken him much sooner than 921 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 4: sixth round. 922 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,439 Speaker 6: Oh my god. 923 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 2: My favorite thing. 924 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 5: About the clip is not the weird lack of athleticism 925 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 5: with Brady's strange running technique. It's that the shirts are 926 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 5: so big. Did he run so so because the shirts 927 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 5: were like parachute, bring it back, wind resistance, That's what 928 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 5: it was.