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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Mother Knows Death.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode, we're going to be talking about a

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Speaker 2: couple who both experienced arm amputations during a recent tornado.

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Speaker 2: An update on a story we brought you a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago about a Pittsburgh Pirates fan who fell

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Speaker 2: out of the stands onto the field. A couple stories

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Speaker 2: involving people cooking their victims' bodies. Yes, notice I said

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Speaker 2: a couple stories because it happened more than once recently,

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Speaker 2: Believe it or not.

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Speaker 1: A cop who killed.

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Speaker 2: Himself after having complications from Lasik eye surgery, and I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of thoughts on that, and another horrendous

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Speaker 2: case of mistaken identity. All that and more on today's episode. First,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about a celebrity that died this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so George Went. He's an actor most famously known

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Speaker 1: for being on Cheers. He has died at age seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Why are all of the articles are talking about this

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Speaker 1: guy who's his nephew that I didn't even know that

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Speaker 1: Jason sideikis. I didn't realize that was his uncle either,

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Speaker 1: but I don't, like, I don't understand when you're this

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Speaker 1: guy was on one of the most famous sitcoms of

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Speaker 1: all times, So why is it even important to mention

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Speaker 1: that he's related to Jason Sada?

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Speaker 2: Now it's annoying. It's like, that's what annoys me most

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Speaker 2: about this. I'm just like, dude, Cheers was like.

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Speaker 1: The biggest show ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess maybe for younger people that I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just think that it's ridiculous. And then the way

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Speaker 2: including Jason Sideikas, who is the kid of like his

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Speaker 2: sixth sister I don't even know, and then scrolled down

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Speaker 2: five more paragraphs and then it's like, yeah, he was

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Speaker 2: married and he had been since the seventies, like to

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Speaker 2: to the same one exactly, like and I'm just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's that's cool. The kids don't feel like shit about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it was really bizarre because it was

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Speaker 1: they were related. And I don't think it matters necessarily

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Speaker 2: But I mean, he they said he died of in

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Speaker 2: a sleep of old age or you know, natural causes. Weever,

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Speaker 2: so Inside Edition was saying that he was suffering from

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Speaker 2: kidney issues and he was having difficulty walking recently. He

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Speaker 2: assume it's something related to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he's seventy six. I don't know like that.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of young. But I always say my threshold

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Speaker 1: I think that you did pretty good. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously living longer is better, but seventy is a good age.

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Speaker 1: Just you know, when I see all of the natural

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Speaker 1: fifty six, and that's just that's young, you know. But

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Speaker 1: anything after that is like nice. Well. I think I've

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Speaker 1: said this on here before, but my friend Alicia used

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Speaker 1: She's like, that is so young. You have no idea

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Speaker 1: I guess it is pretty young.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean and if you look at Norm

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Speaker 2: So living to be seventy six not in the greatest

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Speaker 1: He's a pretty big advocate for beer too. So he

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Speaker 1: had been quoted said, well you called him Norm, which

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Speaker 2: And he's also like I don't remember what his character was,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he said his character on Cheers is very

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Speaker 1: It's just so good. All right, let's move into my

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Speaker 1: worst nightmare ever. So and e F four tornado ripped

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Speaker 1: This is so sad me. I'm like. They were married

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Speaker 2: Luckily they were able to put a tourniquet around her

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Speaker 2: this because depending on where your arm is amputated, you

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Speaker 2: Gets ripped off, especially very high up like near your armpit,

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Speaker 2: And obviously you wouldn't bleed to death as fast as

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Speaker 2: So they say that well built homes are reduced to

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Speaker 2: this is so frightening. Airplanes, trains, and large trucks can

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Speaker 2: They could be flung considerable distances. So it's not surprising

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Saint Louis last week just got hit

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Speaker 2: And I think there's something I don't know because I

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Speaker 2: like an area that gets hit usually there's there's just

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Speaker 1: Well, it's sad too to think they were like holding

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Speaker 1: onto each other it's just a horrific story. You just

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, like I said early, we just have a

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Speaker 2: And they're just like, yeah, they cooked this guy and

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Speaker 1: So this is what happened. They're saying that it was

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Speaker 1: entire house trying to cook my most Also, it's so

436
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: difficult to just cook in someone's kitchen when you've never

437
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: used it before. God, I know. Let's not forget the

438
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: Christmas cooking disaster twenty twenty three.

439
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 2: Someone actually wrote on one of my questions, can you

440
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: guys do a video of you and Maria baking or

441
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: something like that, And I'm like, yeah, that No, that

442
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: always ends in disaster.

443
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 1: Baking for me is like I know I'm bad with this,

444
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: but I need it to be in a lone activity.

445
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 1: I don't mind decorating together, but I don't enjoy baking

446
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: with other people. I have a very specific method. I

447
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: don't like being in other people's kitchens doing it, obviously,

448
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: but I were saying the one and a half cup

449
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: instead of the one cup. I was sick that week,

450
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: so you, okay, get in life. But I don't know.

451
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe we have multiple stories in the last

452
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: couple of months, or I guess the last year with

453
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: people cooking their well, we don't forget we did an entire,

454
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: high profile death disseection on cannibalism in the gross room

455
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 1: which is cool because we talk about the cultural side

456
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: of that why people do it, and then also obviously

457
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: people that murder people do it too.

458
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: But before we get started with the next story, I

459
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 2: just want to tell you that I just read on

460
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: the news that Brian Coberger's defense is now trying to

461
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: postpone the trial because of the Dateline information. Like we

462
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: knew that this was going to happen, right.

463
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with what you were telling me about

464
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: what Joe Scott was saying, that they've potentially ruined this

465
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: entire case, Like there's a gag order in place and

466
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: it's being taken very seriously. So who is leaking this information?

467
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

468
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: I just I am wondering, Like, obviously everyone wants to

469
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: be the first one to have this scoop, but I

470
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: don't know why people aren't respecting the leaked information coming

471
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: out because that is only going to hurt the victims'

472
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: families at this point, and the last thing on earth

473
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: that anyone needs is this guy being allowed in society.

474
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 2: If I mean listen, Like, I think everything that came

475
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: out in the Newest date Line episode, we talked about

476
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 2: this a couple episodes back, right, So nobody's like unclear

477
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: of I just.

478
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: Talked about it, I think last Thursday's.

479
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 2: Okay, so all of this new information came out about

480
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: his Google searches and this and that. Like I do

481
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: understand from the defense's perspective, because now after hearing that,

482
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 2: I mean, I've always been like, I didn't even have

483
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: to hear anything the guy. I told you, the guy's

484
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: guilty in my opinion, just because of the way his

485
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 2: eyes look.

486
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: Okay, but like and all the other stuff. But now

487
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: when you hear about all that, you're.

488
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: Just like, this guy is such a sick fuck, And like,

489
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how he could get a fair trial

490
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: after hearing that, because there's just no way that that

491
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 2: it's just piling on of all of the reasons why

492
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: he did this, you know, So I could see why

493
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: the defense is kind of pissed about that and why

494
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: Dateline wasn't even a thought about that. And so now

495
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,199
Speaker 2: like I don't know if it's gonna get granted, but

496
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: it could, and well they it's just not cool to

497
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 2: the family, Like they they want this to be over

498
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: with so they can move on and mourn in peace

499
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: and get on with their life. And this happened back

500
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 2: in two thousand and twenty two, right, Yeah, it's been

501
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: a long time and it's still not a trial, and

502
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: it was supposed to happen when in August, and now

503
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: it might.

504
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I think about this, and I'm like,

505
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: people aren't thinking about this stuff, Like you're saying, everybody's

506
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: trying to have the viral video. They're trying to be

507
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: the first reported. They're not thinking about how it could

508
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: destroy an entire case. And now if this so, I

509
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna dismiss the entire trial over this,

510
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: but no, I just.

511
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: Think that they're gonna want to postpone it though, And like, honestly,

512
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: if they didn't want this information out because they're trying

513
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: to get a jury that's unbiased, Like I could see

514
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: not that anybody that is capable of a crime like

515
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 2: this really deserves whatever, but like that's the way that

516
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: our systems set up, Like he deserves a fair trial,

517
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: that's how our systems set up so well.

518
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: I just talked about this with Lori Vello too, because

519
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: the death penalty ended up getting removed from her case

520
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: because some of the discovery was not turned over to

521
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: her defense team with enough time for them to review it. Yeah,

522
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: and that's like as a person that should be put

523
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: to death. Yeah, exactly. So I just wanted to say

524
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: that real quick.

525
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: We don't need to talk about it much more, and

526
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure more will come out over the weekend as

527
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 2: it usually does.

528
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: So this so this next case.

529
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: That we're going to talk about, We've we didn't talk

530
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: about this on Mother No's death, as you guys know it,

531
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 2: but we did. We've told them that we did a

532
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 2: podcast for probably a year or more in the Grosser

533
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: Room prior to us going public with Mother and his

534
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: Death podcast. So we covered a case back then of this,

535
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: and this is something that we've been talking about in

536
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: the gross Room.

537
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this Pennsylvania cup has died by suicide after

538
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: his parents are now claiming he suffered severe side effects

539
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: of after having Lasik eye surgery. He was having headaches,

540
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: extreme sensitivity, double vision, He saw dark spots, and he

541
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: left them a note that said, quote, I can't take

542
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: this anymore. Lasik took everything from me. But Lasik is

543
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: denying there's any suicide link to their procedures. There's been

544
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: at least thirty people, if not more, that have killed

545
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: themselves shortly after having lasix because of complications they were describing.

546
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: They even left suicide notes for their family saying that

547
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: they couldn't take it anymore and that's why they killed themselves. Now,

548
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: the people who perform lasik obviously are biased because it's

549
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: their livelihood and they make money off of it. So

550
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 1: you have to take that for what it is, and

551
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 1: then you have to think about all the other stuff

552
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: that they've told us for the beginning of time that's safe,

553
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: that ended up not being safe. Right, So when you

554
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: have people like think about that.

555
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: Even when the COVID shot that came out and all

556
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: of these people were saying that these young guys were

557
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: getting all of these complications with their heart and cardiomyritis

558
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 2: and everything like that, like they they were saying, know,

559
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: there's no evidence to that. And then it's like, Okay,

560
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: when you have enough people complaining about a certain thing,

561
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: you have to start taking it seriously. And this happened

562
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: with the singular drug too that my children were taken.

563
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: We talked about that a few months ago about about

564
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: medications that parents were just like, it's really weird.

565
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: My kids started.

566
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 2: Taking this asthma medication and then all of a sudden

567
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: they got crazy and they were going nuts and blah

568
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: blah blah. And then you know, they blow it off

569
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: for a long time and they say, no, that's not

570
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: there's no association and we've never seen that, and then

571
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: so many people complain about it, and then they look

572
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: into it and then they're like, oh shit, there is

573
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: a problem here. So I don't believe anything that these

574
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: people say at this point, right do you? I mean,

575
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: how could like a let's say you have this severe

576
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: complication like in this case where this guy is having

577
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: horrible vision. It's affected his entire life, he can't return

578
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: to work, he's young. How is it not going to

579
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: affect your mental health? Well, cause they're saying that all

580
00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: of these people already had a predisposition to either depression

581
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: or they already had mental health issues before they got

582
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: this done.

583
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Well that's bullshit, because it's gonna have a life altering

584
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: event that could make you want to end your life,

585
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: like I believe in this case.

586
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, so this guy is a young cop. Usually

587
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: people that are cops are like all in. It's like

588
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: not only their job, it's their life. They're like hardcore

589
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: cop people, right, they're into the law, they want to

590
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 2: go to work, and he thought before going into this procedure.

591
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: So this procedure is done with a laser and it

592
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: cuts a piece of your cornea and it tries to

593
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: shape it in such a way so you're able to

594
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: see without wearing glasses. So really it's one hundred percent

595
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: a cosmetic procedure. It's for people that don't want to

596
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: wear contacts anymore and don't want to wear glasses. It's

597
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: not necessary, so it's an elective procedure. You go in

598
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: to get it done, and he's like, all right, well,

599
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: and you could see as a cop, like you might

600
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: want to get this done because you're working long shifts,

601
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: you're running a you don't want glasses on your face,

602
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: especially if they fall off, you have a problem that

603
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: you can't see.

604
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: And then we're encountering for anybody that has to wear glasses. Yeah,

605
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: it's for anybody, but I could especially see with this.

606
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: So he's like, Okay, well I have to take off

607
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: a couple of days, but it'll be worth it. And

608
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: it was like his family said that. The same exact

609
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: day it started, he started having debilitating headaches, sensitivity, pain, floaters,

610
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: dark spots, double vision, pain in his head's so bad

611
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: that he was unable to focus that he was not

612
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: able to go back to work. Now, anybody that's ever

613
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: had like migraines, especially headaches, any kind of eye issue,

614
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: you know that this like ruins your life. It's terrible,

615
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: like you can't and the saving grace with a migraine

616
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: is like eventually you're going to take medication and it's

617
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: going to go away. But imagine having that feeling all

618
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: the time. You could see why people would want to

619
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: end their life because it's no quality of life. And

620
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: it's not like you could just go and get your

621
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: eyes taken out because the pain would go away against

622
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: but then you would be blind, and who the hell

623
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: is going to do that? So this guy kills himself.

624
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: We had so there was a.

625
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: Case back in twenty and eighteen which first put this

626
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: on my radar because as you guys know, I've been

627
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: on Instagram since two thousand and twelve or I guess

628
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, and you know, I always do these questions

629
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: on my Instagram and people will always ask me like

630
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: would you consider getting lasik?

631
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: And then all of so, I you know, and I

632
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: was always just kind of.

633
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: Like, no, I would I would never personally do that

634
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: because my eyes are wait, they're just so important to me.

635
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: I would never consider messing with them like that. And

636
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: then so then right around that time, back in twenty

637
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: and eighteen, all of these people were sending me this

638
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: case of this woman who was she was a weather

639
00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: person at a like a local Fox station, and she

640
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: was a mother of two and everything, and she killed

641
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: herself after having this procedure done because she was having

642
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: chronic dry eyes blurred vision, and just like it ruined

643
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: her life.

644
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: And the same thing.

645
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: Her family was just like no, like she changed after that,

646
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: and they just don't want to say that there's any relationship.

647
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: And so back in twenty twenty, a medical paper did

648
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: a look at this, looking at all journal articles that

649
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: had been written that had anything to do with people

650
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: having complications including suicide or attempted suicide, even psychosis, depression,

651
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: suicidal ideation, and they found that while ninety six percent

652
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: of patients said they were satisfied, which is a number

653
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: they throw around on all these sites, which you're just like,

654
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 2: I don't really know where they get that, because they

655
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: always don't report all of the bad things, So you

656
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: could take that with a grain salt or whatever. But

657
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: they looked and found that there were six people in

658
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: when they were just searching through databases that became that

659
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 2: had psychosis and ended up killing themselves. And it was

660
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: a result of after having that surgery. So it's it's

661
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 2: kind of like this is happening. I'm sorry to tell you.

662
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: They might want to say that it's not. Obviously, we

663
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: can ask people who are listening right now, because I'm

664
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: sure someone listening has had it done and they think

665
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: that it's totally fine and they don't have any problems.

666
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: But we covered I don't know if you remember, we

667
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: covered a story on Mother Knows Death back in July

668
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three, and this was an article of

669
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 2: a woman who got LA six on her wedding before

670
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: you know, for her wedding, and she went viral on

671
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: TikTok as well, saying that she was living in hell

672
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: and chronic pain, and she said she felt like she

673
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: had shards of glass piercing her eyeballs and like like

674
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: pins and needles feeling, and all of these people underneath

675
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: the post were writing similar things, like I've had chronic

676
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: dry eye for five years, and I always get eye

677
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: infections because my eyes are so.

678
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: Dry, and just I've dealt with dry eye.

679
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 2: I was having like a really bad problem with it

680
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 2: a year ago and they gave me drops, which I

681
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: feel like actually made it worse. But it was kind

682
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: of it's kind of torturous. It's just always on your mind,

683
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 2: and that's not even a pain thing. So you're saying

684
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: you've found.

685
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: Formal medical research that confirms that there is a link,

686
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: it's not. The thing is is that there's formal medical

687
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: research that has found other papers of people who have

688
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: died saying that there were cause of death was due

689
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: to the LASiS. But they're saying, like, obviously, when you're

690
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 1: saying it's caused, if you want to say it's caused

691
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: by the LASiS, then what medical thing either macroscopically or

692
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: microscopically is happening when the core is cut and in

693
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: only certain people, not all people. They don't have that answer.

694
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: So that's why they're able to say there's no there's

695
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: no link, even though there there's no clinical evidence linking.

696
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't have it like scientific link saying this

697
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: is caused by this Okay, exposure to uv L, like

698
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: we know, changes cells and causes changes in DNA and

699
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: causes cancer. They don't have those things. So that's why

700
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: they say that there's no link because they don't know yet.

701
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: But you just can't ignore that multiple people, like any person,

702
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 2: let's just say, for what, don't you think they're just

703
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: words smithing it too. So they're saying, quote, there's no

704
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: clinical evidence linking suicide to Lasik eye surgery. But it's

705
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: really like there are suicides connected to complications from Lasik messurgery.

706
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: It's it's one hundred percent a talking point too. I mean,

707
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: you just listen, like this guy. Let's pretend this guy

708
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: didn't even have LA six. He got in a car

709
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: accident and wasn't able to go back to work and

710
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: had chronic pain itself. He might kill himself too. That

711
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that he has some kind of underlying depression.

712
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: It means that there was a traumatic event that caused

713
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: him to want to ruin.

714
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: That's the event. You can't just assume that people have

715
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: previous mental conditions because they've ended up doing it, and

716
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: that this event could lead them to have new mental

717
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: condition that leads them to the decision. It's ridiculous to

718
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: even say that.

719
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: So and like listen, I would argue that if you

720
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: add chronic leg pain, it's not in the same category

721
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: as the eye situation. No, just because of the weight

722
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: that it carries. Like, ultimately, if you have chronic leg pain,

723
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: that bad. Not that this is ideal, and this is

724
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: certainly a pain in the ass, but you could get

725
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: your leg amputated and get a prosthetic, not to say

726
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: that that's easy at all, And it's not a competent.

727
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: It's not the same as your it's just not the

728
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: same as your eyes. So like the and you're exactly

729
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: right with the wording of it, because when you actually

730
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: get the procedure done, most people say that it doesn't hurt.

731
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 2: There's not people that are like screaming in pain getting

732
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 2: it done. But it's the complications caused by the procedure

733
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: that are causing people to go nuts in some cases.

734
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: And that just has to be recognized. And and there's

735
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: physicians that are trying to get this technology off the

736
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: market because they think it's that bad. I honestly believe

737
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: I have to talk to doctor Drew because I feel

738
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: like he had some kind of issue with something like this.

739
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: I was gonna send him this story and ask him.

740
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: But there's them on to talk.

741
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 2: I know, right, I was, That's what I was thinking,

742
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: because I don't remember exactly what happened, and he might

743
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: have gotten it done for something else. But I know

744
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: he had complications from some eye thing and he's been

745
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: very outspoken about it. But I haven't heard him talking

746
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: about it a while, so I wasn't one hundred percent sure.

747
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, like there's people talking about it that are

748
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: just like, nah, this is you're not giving everyone the

749
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: full extent and just telling people even like when they

750
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: signed the paper, Okay, you might have floaters and you

751
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: might have this like that shit would drive you freaking

752
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: nuts double vision, and.

753
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, I agree with

754
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: you one hundred percent. It's not like you have chronic

755
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: leg pain or chronic pain in your abdomen or something

756
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: like this, like this is your vision. You need your vision.

757
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: And obviously there's people that are blind and live really successful,

758
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: good lives. But if you're not used to this and

759
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: it's brand new to you, it's a new trauma, and

760
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: of course it's going to mess with your brain all right.

761
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: Our final story is like one of these I can't

762
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: believe something like this happened again in modern times. A

763
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 2: case of mistaken identity, just terrible case.

764
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this woman got a call that her son

765
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: was in the ICU at a local hospital. Well not

766
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: even a local hospital, it was like four hours away

767
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: from them. The family rushed there, sat by his side

768
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: until he died, started planning his funeral, and then the

769
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: day he was set to be cremated, she ended up

770
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: getting a text from a random phone number that claimed

771
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: to be her son asking for money, and it did

772
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: turn out it was him. Yeah, so she could She

773
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: got this this text and was just like, Okay, this

774
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: is a sick joke or something, which like who would

775
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess people play sick jokes. But she

776
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: kind of blew it off.

777
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: And then she got another text from that phone number

778
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: and called it back and she said that the guy

779
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: that answered the phone sounded like her son. She was

780
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: able to get a hold and meet up with the

781
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: guy and sure enough, it was her son. So she

782
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: went through an entire three days thinking her kid was dead.

783
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: Now from they they don't one hundred percent get.

784
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: Into what's going on.

785
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: With the son, but apparently she hasn't seen him in

786
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: person for a couple of years. He seems like he's

787
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: been like on drugs and overdosing, and any parent I

788
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: personally don't have, well, not in my own family story,

789
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: but I used to work with a woman who had

790
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: a daughter who was on heroin and and it was

791
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: terrible for her, Like every single time she got a

792
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: phone call, she thought she was going to get a

793
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: phone call that her daughter was dead, until finally, one

794
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: day it happened.

795
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: It's a terrible way to live as a parent. And

796
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: this mom finally got the call that her son was dying.

797
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: He ended up dying in the hospital, and for three

798
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: whole days she thought her son was dead and funeral, this, that,

799
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: and the other, and then found out that he was alive,

800
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: which is great because now he thinks this whole thing

801
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: is like a new lease on life, and I really

802
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: hope it works out for their family. But still, like,

803
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: now you got to go back and be like, how

804
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: the hell did this happen? Well, it's really crazy because

805
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: a listener sent this in and said her brother went

806
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: to school with this guy, and there was this memorial

807
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: all set and then it got canceled suddenly, and then

808
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: this story comes out. So imagine like thinking you're going

809
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: to the funeral of somebody you went to school with

810
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: and then this crazy story comes out. But I guess

811
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: that the son had overdosed previously and gone to this hospital.

812
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: And then when this other victim came to the hospital,

813
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: a nurse thought she recognized him as this woman's son,

814
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: and they got in contact with him and said, you know,

815
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: your son's not in great condition, you should get here.

816
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: So when the family got to the hospital, they said

817
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: the features were so similar, but of course this guy's

818
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 1: in the ICU, he's hooked up to a ventilator, he

819
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: has bed sheets on. But they said all these family

820
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: members came in the hospital and that one of them

821
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: doubted it was him, which is quite twenty twenty five,

822
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean? And nurse was like, hey,

823
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: he's been here before. Let's just find his parents and

824
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: call them. Like that that's not procedure even a little bit,

825
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: do you know, like like, do you know the answer

826
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: to this if if a stranger comes in with no

827
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: identification or anything, like, how do they find the family?

828
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure exactly what they do, but it

829
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: could be the same could be said about what happens

830
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: when there's an unidentified body that comes into the morgue.

831
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: Like the first thing that you're gonna do is fingerprints

832
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: and try to figure out who the person is. I

833
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: mean eventually, eventually you could do dental records, DNA and

834
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But this, this listen, Like

835
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: this happens not.

836
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's like an everyday thing, but people

837
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: come into hospital unidentified all the time, and you just

838
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: don't like look at someone and be like, hey, I

839
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: think I think I know his parents.

840
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: Let me call, Like that's the most outrageous thing I

841
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: ever saw. And she said that the guy like, I mean,

842
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: think about this, like you have a person. If you

843
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: ever see a person in the ICU, it's like they're intubated.

844
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: They got tubes coming out of them everywhere. Apparently this

845
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: guy was like wrapped up in sheets. She couldn't see

846
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: his arms, and he had a unique birthmark on his

847
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: leg and tattoos. But she said when she came in,

848
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: like nobody even asked her to identify him. And she

849
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: and this is the thing as a patient when you

850
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: get called and told that your kid is either dead

851
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: or almost dead.

852
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: The last thing that you're thinking about is like that

853
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: that somebody has screwed this up. Your mind is in

854
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: a completely different place. You walk in, you're told this information,

855
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: and you're looking at this guy laying in the bed

856
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: that's swollen, wrapped up tubes everywhere, and you see that

857
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 2: they had the same hair.

858
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also if they hadn't seen him in four

859
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: years and he was a drug addict, I mean his

860
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: appearance could change dramatically in that time. Yeah, I mean

861
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: I think people aren't there, like and.

862
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: She yeah, and like I feel bad because the mom's

863
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: like I want to blame myself for not asking, and

864
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm just like, no, no, no, this is absolutely has

865
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: nothing to do with you. It's it's just like and like,

866
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: obviously we're going to think about the case that we

867
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Speaker 2: covered back in two thousand and what was that from

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Speaker 2: two thousand and six or two no, two thousand and six, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when this happened in America. We talked about this a

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Speaker 2: couple of times on the show, but that there was

871
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Speaker 2: this really there were these students that were in a

872
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: van and there was this really horrible accident and the

873
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: one got one of the friends. The other one was

874
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: still alive in the hospital and their identities were also switched.

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Speaker 2: So there was a family that was taking care of

876
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Speaker 2: a girl or a young woman for five whole weeks

877
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Speaker 2: before they realized that their daughter was the one that

878
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: indeed died and was already buried in the ground. And

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Speaker 2: then there was another family that found out that their

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Speaker 2: daughter that was buried in the ground was actually alive

881
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Speaker 2: in the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Still, it's just absolutely crazy, and then you know, you

883
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: get to the question of like, well, who is this person? Then,

884
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Speaker 1: so the mother had who she believed was her son's

885
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: hand prints taken at the funeral home because she was

886
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: going to keep them as some memento, and then the

887
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: police had to end up using those prints to identify

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Speaker 1: who the guy was. And she said she hasn't heard

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00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: from the family still, but they were able to get

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Speaker 1: his belongings to them. And then this is the craziest

891
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Speaker 1: part too, is that she thought it was her son.

892
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Speaker 1: So they honored his wishes of being an organ downer

893
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: and said that this person was able to save three

894
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Speaker 1: lives with two kidneys and a liver. So and this

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Speaker 1: is what I think is and I don't know like,

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Speaker 1: what is a traditional thing to do in Canada. I've

897
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Speaker 1: never heard of family member asking for hamdprints of a person.

898
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Speaker 1: It's so random to me. Maybe that's something I never

899
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Speaker 1: heard of that happening around here anyway, So it might

900
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: be like a family like you don't know, it might

901
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Speaker 1: be like, I know, sometimes people take a look of

902
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Speaker 1: someone's hair or something like that. I don't know. It's

903
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: just so random to me.

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Speaker 2: And it's awesome that it happened because they were able

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Speaker 2: to find the other person because the other person was cremated.

906
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: What the hell were they going to do to find

907
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: who it was?

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00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: You know?

909
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Speaker 2: So I mean that that all worked out well, and

910
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: that's just a twist of fake because otherwise they would

911
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: have not known who it was.

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Speaker 1: And imagine the parents. I mean, everyone's got parents and

913
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Speaker 1: family and stuff, like, imagine how they feel. It's a

914
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Speaker 1: horrible story all around. It's totally unacceptable. Clearly the hospital

915
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: did not take the proper protocols in identifying this person.

916
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Speaker 1: And it's ridiculous to even hear that these stories happen. No,

917
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: it really is. And they're kind of just like blowing

918
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: it off to just by saying like, oh, well, we

919
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: had some training with the nurses, and they had some meetings,

920
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: and you know, they should have already been trained on

921
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: how to deal with this. I mean, yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. I'm speechless about it.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you guys so much. We hope

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Speaker 1: you have a great Memorial Day weekend this weekend. And

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Speaker 1: my training is as a pathologists assistant. I have a

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Speaker 1: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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