1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Welcome in second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: we've got a lot of aftermath and after action reporting 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: still coming in. Last week was victory week. I hope 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: you enjoyed, you know, eating wings with blue cheese, laid 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: into the night, watching a great movie, or out there 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: playing a sport with your family, doing something fun. Because 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: now the fight is back in action here and we're 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how the Trump team is shaping 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: up as they get going. 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: With the beginning of term two. 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Trump two point zero going to become a reality in January, 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: and we also have the Democrats trying to regroup and 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: they will. To be clear. 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's easy to get all wrapped up. 15 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: In the Wow, what a sweeping victory for Trump. Trump 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: can't run again. Trump now has to do great things 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: in this next term. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: I think he will. 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm excited for the possibilities here, But the Republican Party 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: is going to have to deal with a Democrat party 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: without Donald Trump at the head of it. 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: No one, I think has to be reminded. I have very. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: High hopes for JD. Vance and as well as others. 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: I think the next generation of Republican leadership is in 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: a very good place already, and we have a deep bench. 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: I see Democrats say that on TV and then I'm like, 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: who's on this bench exactly? It's like, what even for 28 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: their purposes? Forget about whether I agree with him, I'm 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: just like that person can't win. Kamala Harris, though, as 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: we know, did not win. This was an interesting moment 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: on the TV over the weekend. Kamala Harris's former communications director, 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: a guy that I worked with briefly at The Hillclay the. 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: Hill dot Com. 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Not like on Capitol Hill, Jamal Simmons, very nice guy 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: and very plugged in guy. I will tell you knows. 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, he's got a Democrat rollerdex. He can get 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: anybody wants on the phone. He could then he certainly 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: can now after being Kamala's comm's director, and this is 39 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: what he he put out there for everybody. I just 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: wanted to dive into this with all of you. Just 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: cut four. 42 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's been a phenomenal president. He's lived up to 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: so many of the promise that he's made. There's one 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: promise left that he could fulfill. Being a transitional figure. 45 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: He could resign the presidency in the next thirty days, 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: make Kamala Harris the President of the United States, give 47 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: it absolved being able to having to oversee the January 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: sixth transition right of her of her own defeat, and 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: it would make sure that it would dominate the news 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: at a point where Democrats have to learn drama and 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: transparency and doing things and the public we want to 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: see is the time. This is the moment for us 53 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: to change the entire perspective of how democrats say. 54 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: This is now jumped from an internet name to a 55 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: Sunday morning show. I thought we were going to say, 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 4: what about the Supreme Court that's also out there. 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: Well, the Supreme Court might happen. I don't know if 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: it will. 59 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. And by the way, this 60 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: is not going to happen either. She's not going to 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: be the Supreme Court and Biden is not going to 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: step down. But here's what I she called. I think 63 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: this is interesting because why this is out there and 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: he's bringing up I'm telling you, I know Jabal. I 65 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: haven't spoken a little while, but I know Jabal. He 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: knows what everyone's talking about behind closed doors, and he 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: knows what the Kamala team has he was a part 68 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: of it, right, I mean, he knows what has been discussed. 69 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 1: My assumption was always that Joe Biden was running for 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: term one with the idea that he would step down 71 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: and let her assume the role of incumbent effectively by 72 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: being a VP running in or not necessarily even running 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: in a primary, but a VP elevated. And that was 74 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: always the plan, right. The plan got messed up here 75 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: because they waited too long for it, because I think 76 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: they recognized that Kamala was such a weak candidate for this, 77 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: which he couldn't do it, which we've now seen. But 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: now do we get to the why this? So again, 79 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: I think this is an interesting idea. It will absolutely 80 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: not happen. In my mind, I give it less than 81 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: a one percent shot. I think it's almost you know, zero. 82 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: But here's what I see, Clay One. It won't happen 83 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: because it would be in essence for a lot of 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: people admitting that the DEI world, there's a lot of 85 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: certain people get a trophy that they didn't actually get, you. 86 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: Know what I mean. 87 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: It would really undermine I think in the public's eye. Yeah, 88 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: there'd be Democrats to say, yeah, the first black female president. 89 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: But it would be for thirty days. She wouldn't have 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,119 Speaker 1: earned it, and she would have just lost an election 91 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: very badly. In a sense, that's kind of an encapsulation 92 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: of what a lot of people view DEI as right. 93 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: You make these superficial characteristics of people the means for 94 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: advancing them. 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: But I think you and I know the bigger thing. 96 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: Biden's just don't like her. Biden's just aren't going to 97 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: do it. It's embarrassing. 98 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 5: First of all, I don't know that anybody's actually ever 99 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: thought through it. It would require Joe Biden to move 100 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 5: out of the White House and Kamala Harris to move 101 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 5: into the White House for one month, and then Joe 102 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 5: Biden what like, gets on a helicopter and flies to 103 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 5: his beach home. 104 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: And he isn't there anymore. 105 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 5: It's an embarrassing way for Biden's era to end, to 106 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 5: the extent that he had an era at all. What 107 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: I do think the discussion is acknowledging on some level, 108 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: buck though, is that Kamala Harris is done in politics. 109 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: We talked about this as the stakes of these elections. 110 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 5: I do think it's worth going back to if Trump 111 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 5: had lost Democrats, in theory were going to try to 112 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 5: put him in prison for the rest of his life. 113 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 5: If Kamala had won, she was going to be the 114 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 5: first woman president. People would talk about her for hundreds 115 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 5: of years, even if most of us know that she 116 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 5: is an empty suit. Her name would have echoed throughout history. Instead, 117 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: they're gonna Michael Ducacas her like she's just gonna kind 118 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 5: of vanish. I know there's talk, Oh, she's gonna run 119 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 5: for governor in California. I don't think there's any ambition 120 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 5: for that. 121 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: Buck. 122 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 5: When Hillary lost, there were at least some people out 123 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: there who said, well, she should run against him again 124 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four. In the immediate aftermath, Oh she's 125 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 5: been wronged. 126 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: Have you heard. 127 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 5: Anybody say, Oh, Kamala Harris has been wronged. Her career 128 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: is over. And I think in some ways this is 129 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 5: actually why I said, Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Wittmer, Gavin Newsom, Pritzker, 130 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 5: all of that crew, maybe AOC, all of them that 131 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 5: have larger national ambitions, they all wanted Kamala to lose 132 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 5: because if she had won, she's the nominee in twenty 133 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 5: eight They can't get past her. It's twenty thirty two 134 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 5: until you can run for president. Now, now you look 135 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: at it and you say she's swept out. They went 136 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 5: ahead and got rid of the DEI vice president. There's 137 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 5: no argument that she has to be the nominee because 138 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 5: she's the first black woman Asian woman to be vice president. 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: She's done. She's out the window. I don't even think 140 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: she could run. 141 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: I think it would embarrass her how badly she would 142 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 5: get beaten in the primaries, because I think the real 143 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 5: story here, as you just mentioned it, is if they 144 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 5: had a legitimate primary, if Joe Biden had stepped down 145 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 5: like he should have some time in or announced that 146 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 5: he wasn't going to run like he should have, and 147 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 5: like I don't know June of twenty twenty three, Yeah, 148 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: then she would have never been the nominee. And Buck 149 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 5: the one thing I will say, we didn't get the 150 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: red wave in twenty twenty two. We got it in 151 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. I would submit that the reason we 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: got the red wave is because Biden took the wrong 153 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: lesson from the midterms. When they didn't get absolutely eviscerated, 154 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 5: he and his team took it as an indication that 155 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 5: what he was doing was popular, and that there was 156 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 5: still a demand for him to be re elected. 157 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: They it's a classic thing Biden. After the midterms, the 158 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: team around him that was actually running the White House, 159 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: they decided that they weren't lucky, they were good, and 160 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: actually they were just lucky. 161 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: They were very lucky in those midterms. We've just that 162 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: Roe v. 163 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 5: Wade frankly got overturned, because I think you can look 164 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 5: back at it now and say he would have gotten 165 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 5: absolutely destroyed. 166 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: But for Roe v. 167 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 5: Wade getting overturned, that also diluted the impact of Roe 168 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: v Wade getting overturned Buck, I think in twenty four. 169 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 5: But yes, they took the lesson of this is an 170 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: endorsement of what we're doing. The American public actually supports us. 171 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: You've got to stay in and run. 172 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: And we've discussed this, and this is not just us 173 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: justifying that we were a little excited about twenty twenty. 174 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about twenty twenty two any more. 175 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Let's talk about twenty twenty four because we nailed it. 176 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: But in twenty two, there was a surge of red voting. 177 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: Republican voters did turn out in great numbers for a midterm. 178 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: They just didn't turn out where we needed. 179 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: Them to to win. 180 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: The key race is to make it a successful midterm 181 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: for us. That is what ended up happening this time. 182 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,359 Speaker 1: We got both. We got the numbers and the placement 183 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: of those numbers to make it matter. 184 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: You know. 185 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: So, Kamala, I think there's a recognition Clay that there 186 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: would even be discussion of her. 187 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: As really a figurehead. 188 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: President for a month or two as part of this transition. 189 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: It's the idea is absurd, But I'm telling you people 190 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: have talked about it who are at the high levels here, 191 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: and then you look at who No. 192 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 5: I was just gonna ask you like associated with this? 193 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 5: To me, this ties in what one question would you 194 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: love to know the true answer to associated with the 195 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 5: behind the scenes Biden Kamala drama, Like if you could 196 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 5: just like get true honesty, because I think this ties 197 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 5: in with the idea of elevating her. It's crazy because 198 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 5: they hate each other. I think I think somebody I 199 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 5: don't know who did it. If you're asking me my 200 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 5: vision of this, I think eventually because Biden was not 201 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 5: not just because of the stake bet Biden was not 202 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 5: planning on dropping even after the debate he did not 203 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 5: want to. It was a kicking and screaming situation. 204 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: I want to know who really came to him and said, 205 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is going to ostracize your family and 206 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: your legacy unless you step down, basically made him an 207 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: offer he can't refuse. I don't know if it was Pelosi. 208 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Barack himself. 209 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 210 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: I think somebody sat him down and said, this isn't 211 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: just about you. This is about Jill and Hunter and 212 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: your brother whatever his name is, and your grandkids. Do 213 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: you want your grandkids and your great grandkids to get 214 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: into Yale and Harvard, even though they're going to be morons? 215 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: Then do what we say, because they will get into 216 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: Yale and Harvard and Princeton even though they're probably going 217 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: to be, like, you know, a bunch of clowns. The 218 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: point is, I think somebody got to him with that, 219 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 220 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: And I want to. 221 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 5: Know what it was and who was it who ordered 222 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 5: the code red is one way of putting I would 223 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: love to know that. I would love to know Buck. 224 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 5: How did the June twenty seventh debate actually happen? Because 225 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 5: you would have won your stake bet if they had 226 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 5: just not debated until September or October, as almost always happens. 227 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: So how did that come to reality? 228 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 5: June twenty seventh, I want to know every minute detail 229 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,359 Speaker 5: associated with that process. 230 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Well, the two possibilities there are the And one of 231 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: the reasons we're talking about this is because I think 232 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: the Kamala Biden infighting means that we might get answers 233 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: to this, right, there are some things, like you know, 234 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: there are things that were going on in the Obama 235 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: administration you will never find You won't find out for 236 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: thirty years because they are Democrat royalty and nobody's gonna 237 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things we've talk about here, but 238 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: no one's going to talk about it. They're going to 239 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: talk out of school on this because there's a fight 240 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: going on now for power within the party and they're 241 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: not you know, Biden and Kamala are no longer the 242 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: anointed and the people who have worked for them are 243 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: jockeying for power in the future. So yes, the only 244 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: two possibilities are somebody thought that if they got Biden 245 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: to debate, it would finally be the nail and the 246 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: Coffin of his candidacy. I don't buy that as much. 247 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: I actually think they were so delusion, or maybe not 248 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: delusions to the right word. 249 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: I think that they were. 250 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: Just willing to roll the dice with we'll get out 251 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: ahead of this and then we'll put them all. We'll 252 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: put all the haters to sleep with this idea of 253 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: Biden being just fine. Can I just play real quick? 254 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: I looked this up the New York Times just wrote 255 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: a piece. Is what I was thinking about on the 256 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: next generation. 257 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: You know the deep bench that Democrats have. You know 258 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: who the top names are. 259 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we know some of them, but yeah, Gavin Newsom, JB. 260 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: Pritsker of Illinois. 261 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be mean, and I cast no 262 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: ast persons on anyone's wait or whatever, but I think 263 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: would be very tough for a guy. You know, we 264 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: are still kind of a superficial society. I don't see JB. 265 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: Pritzker being the President of the United States just saying, 266 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's gonna lose one hundred and fifty 267 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: pounds or so, but that. 268 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 5: Would be very in the same way we didn't see 269 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 5: Chris Christie because there is a cosmetic aspect to be. 270 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: And again, I don't criticize. I don't make fat jokes here, 271 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: don't criticize people's weight. I'm just saying I think that 272 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: he you know, I think that's an issue for him 273 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: legitimately at the national level. Jos Shapiro of Pennsylvania, Gretchen 274 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: Whitmer of Michigan, Wes Moore of Maryland, Phil Murphy of 275 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Roy Cooper of North Carolina, Andy Basheer of Kentucky. 276 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: That is the New York Times list and Clay. Let 277 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: me just say, none of them, none of them have 278 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: the kind of brand power and national recognition that they 279 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: need to even be seriously considered right now for anything 280 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: in the presidential room. 281 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 5: Let me just say, Andy Basheer and Roy Cooper are 282 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: Tim Walls like in that every man who sees them 283 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 5: will be like, I'm not voting for that guy to 284 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 5: have control of nuclear power like Democrat. This is what 285 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 5: I think is the lasting legacy. Two things as we 286 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 5: go to break here. 287 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: One buck. 288 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 5: I think one reason this Biden Kamala fight is going 289 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 5: to be so nasty is everybody recognizes neither the one 290 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 5: of them has a political future now, so they're not 291 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: fighting for the future of their careers, they're fighting for 292 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 5: their legacy. 293 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 2: Now, I think that's going to be particularly nasty. 294 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 5: Two to me, the biggest story of the twenty twenty 295 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 5: four election Trump on all those things, But in terms 296 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 5: of the data, Democrats have a monstrously huge issue with 297 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 5: young men and it's only going to continue to get worse. 298 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: So the reason when you read me all that list book, they. 299 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: Got to find a dude, I'm sorry, Democrats got to 300 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 5: find a guy that normal guys would like to have 301 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 5: a beer with. None of those guys you just ran 302 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 5: through on that list are dudes. They tried to argue, Oh, 303 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 5: Tim wall is going to be a football guy. I'm 304 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,239 Speaker 5: telling you maybe Gavin Newsom honestly is the most dudliest 305 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: of that group. And that's being very kind, right, Who 306 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 5: would you want to have a beer with? In that group? 307 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom might be top of the list. 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I think you're right, Buck, 333 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 5: I think they understood that they were performing poorly, and 334 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 5: they needed to alter the narrative even going into the summer. 335 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 5: But I also think there were some people who knew 336 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 5: that Biden would do poorly and basically egged on the 337 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 5: idea of an uncharacteristically early, truly without precedent early debate 338 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 5: that would give them time to toss Biden to the curb. 339 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 5: So I wonder if part of the story of June 340 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 5: twenty seventh is what you're talking about. 341 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: Buck. 342 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 5: The same guys or gals who ultimately ordered the code 343 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: red also demanded the June twenty seventh debate for him 344 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 5: to prove he was up to it when many people 345 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 5: out there had questions, because that did give them the 346 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 5: time to kick him to the curb and come up 347 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: with a secondary option. 348 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: I think that it is fair to say that what 349 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: they did, if I were like a senior Democrat strategist 350 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: for this campaign cycle, they could not have screwed this 351 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: up anymore than they did. 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We're 387 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: looking at cabinet officials, that tier one level of presidential 388 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: appointee that often, not always, but often requires a Senate confirmation. 389 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 1: People like the National Security Advisor Michael Waltz. We've had 390 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: him on the show before. Definitely not to be confused 391 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: with Tim Walltz, by the way, we've had Michael Waltz 392 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: on the show before. Yeah, very different, very different dude 393 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: very different people, very different people. Yeah, one's very dude 394 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: like and the other is starring in a remake of 395 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: Chicago Fussy. It's actually perfect for Tim Wallas, Yes, totally 396 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: so Yeah, I think what we have is a national 397 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: security advisor and Walls who would do a very good job. 398 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: He's totally qualified, very smart guy, very good guy. A 399 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: plus from my perspective on that. Steven Miller likely to 400 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: be Deputy White House Chief of Staff A plus on that. 401 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: I won't just these are all getting top grades, right. 402 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: These are all top grade picks as far as I'm concerned, 403 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: or as far as my opinion matters for anything. Although 404 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: I have talked to some of these folks or some 405 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: of the people involved about this stuff, I would say, 406 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: os Susie Wiles Chief Staff, earned it great campaign. Can't 407 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: argue with that. Lee Zeldn. We haven't mentioned this EPA director. 408 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: Now. 409 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: This is very interesting because generally you don't have a 410 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: lot of people throwing elbows to be at the EPA right, 411 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: especially Republicans. But Lee is very competent. Lee understands systems 412 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: and bureaucracies. He's going to be aligned with the Trump vision, 413 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: and I think what he's going to do is make 414 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: the e p A, if not great again, less horrible, 415 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: less less possible, less likely to annoy, harass, undermine, overregulate 416 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: the climate change craziness. I mean, all the it's become 417 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: a very ideologically uh infested place, unfortunately. 418 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: So I think Lee is there to clean it up. 419 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's wie Er at the of 420 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: the e PA. He's gonna do a good job, shake 421 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: it up. We'll talk to him, we'll have him on soon. 422 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: Christ you knowmem Again, as I said, she's got a 423 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: very important job, and I hope she does a very 424 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: good job. And she is Trump's pick, and God blessed, 425 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: let's hope it all come together because that's a big one. 426 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: But borders are borders are Tom Homan gonna be working 427 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: very closely with Noame. She's gonna make sure he's got 428 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: the resources, the political cover of the things that he 429 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: needs from a bureaucratic side. But Tom Holman on the 430 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: border is very encouraging to me. He's who I would 431 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: have picked for that role. And I know Tom and 432 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: have talked to Tom about the border many times before. 433 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: I think he is is a I look, I think 434 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: he's a perfect choice for this. 435 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 2: And here's the kind of stuff that he is saying. 436 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: I mean, the Left we played for you before a 437 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: clip to Clay, They're getting a little freaked out. It's like, oh, 438 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna send everybody, and it's gonna be pandemonium. It's 439 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: not saying that it's gonna be pandemonium, but he's saying, Look, 440 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: if you're here illegally, there is a new sheriff in town. 441 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 2: Things are changing a bit. This has cut seven play it. 442 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Are you planning on deporting American citizens? 443 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 4: No? 444 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 2: Exactly not. 445 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 6: Look the view, it's like the misfit Toys. They don't 446 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 6: what the hell they're talking about. President Trump has made 447 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 6: a clear we will prioritize public safety threats and national 448 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 6: security threats first, and that's what the focus would be. 449 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: And there's over one point five convicted criminal aimens in 450 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 6: this country with final orders. 451 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: Removal that we're gonna be looking for. 452 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 6: There's there's thousands of gang members, ill got gamers we're 453 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 6: gonna be looking for. Now, I'm gonna say, if you're 454 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 6: in the country illegally, you shouldn't feel comftable. Absolutely no, 455 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 6: I won't feel comfortable if I'm in the country illegally. 456 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 6: If if I'm in some other country legally, I'm not 457 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 6: gonna be comfortable. You shouldn't be comfortable with either, because 458 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 6: when you enter this country illegally, you have committed a crime. 459 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 6: You are a criminal, and you're not off the table. 460 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: Good for him. 461 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: This is the attitude of law and order that you 462 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: needed somebody in this role. Now, notice that what he's 463 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: saying is, yeah, there's obviously going to be as there 464 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: always is in law enforcement. 465 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: Right. 466 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the way the left plays this game, it's oh, 467 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna just take They're gonna grab the dreamers, and 468 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna take the grandmas who have been here for 469 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: thirty years, and they're gonna drag them out of their homes. Well, 470 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: legally that may be possible in the future, though, we'll 471 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: deal with that. We'll deal with that the American people, 472 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: meaning we when we get to it. But you could 473 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: spend a tremendous amount of time, resources, and energy clay 474 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: for the next as I said, eighteen months to save 475 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: the country just dealing with real deal criminals, meaning people 476 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: who have done crimes here in addition to their illegality 477 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: or illegally arrived here and have serious convictions in their background. 478 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: You're talking about a big number of individuals in just 479 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: that category. And then if you want to add to it, 480 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: you could just take single adult males who have arrived 481 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: here in the last four years. You would be busy 482 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: with this the whole four years. But if you just 483 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: try to do that, it will dramatically change the crisis 484 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: of sovereignty that we're going through here. 485 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 2: Also, Buck is what I love. 486 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 5: This is October twenty eighth, with sixty minutes. You know 487 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 5: what they're going to argue, Oh, you're going to separate family. 488 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 5: They didn't care about kids illegally crossing the border for 489 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 5: the last four years, often without their families being sex trafficked. 490 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 5: AOC and Company who were supposedly so angry about families 491 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 5: being separated. Tom Holman was asked about this on sixty minutes. 492 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 5: Cecilia Vega is the interviewer. I love this answer. 493 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: Buck. 494 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 5: This is cut eight. Flashback to sixty minutes, Tom Holman. 495 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: We have seen one estimate that says it would cost 496 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: eighty eight billion dollars to deport a million people a year. 497 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's accard or not. 498 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: Is that what American taxpayers should expect? 499 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 6: What price do you put on national security? 500 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 7: Is it worth it? 501 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: Is there a way to carry out mass deportation without 502 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: separating families of coursers. 503 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 6: Families can be deported together. 504 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 5: That is a badass answer if you couldn't hear it. 505 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: She says, can you handle mass deportations without separating families? 506 00:24:58,680 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 2: He says, of course. 507 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 5: There is pauses for a second and says families can 508 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 5: be deported together. This also, Buck ties in with what 509 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 5: I think is a fundamental issue that has to be rectified, 510 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 5: and that is this, We have to stop giving birthrights citizenship. 511 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: If you come. 512 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 5: Into the country illegally, why in the world should you 513 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 5: be rewarded by your children becoming United States citizens. That 514 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 5: is a fundamental incentive structure that is not constitutional in 515 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 5: my mind, and it has to be addressed. 516 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: And let me read this too, Buck. Bill Malugin said. 517 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: Border patrol and ice morale is surging following Trump's win 518 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 5: and the appointment of Tom Homan as borders are I'm 519 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 5: reading this from Bill Malugin. I reached out to a 520 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 5: handful of contacts to gauge the temperature. Sounds like night 521 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 5: and day. An ice officer said, it's a total one 522 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 5: point eighty. Troops are finally feeling like the sun is 523 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 5: coming out after a very long storm. People are fired up, 524 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 5: fired up to have support. It's amazing because we became 525 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: so numb. I don't think we realized how bad until 526 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 5: we finally have hope again. Everybody is saying that these 527 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 5: are quotes. You can go read them. Arizona Border Patrol 528 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 5: ecstatic to go to work, Morale higher than the first 529 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 5: time he won. Texas Border Patrol. 530 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 2: Dude. 531 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: People who were going to retire are not. Everyone is 532 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 5: happy again. All these guys and gals are asking for 533 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: buck is the ability to do their job. And they 534 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 5: were so unable to do their job with Kamala Harrison 535 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 5: Joe Biden in office that some of them were thinking 536 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 5: about quitting because they were so depleted energy and morale wise, 537 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 5: based on the lack of security at the border. Now 538 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 5: Trump is coming back and he is implementing a policy, 539 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 5: and I got to say a lot of squishy people 540 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 5: out there have to say tough on this. Have a spine, 541 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 5: don't allow you know what's gonna happen. They're gonna find 542 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 5: the one error in deportation. It's gonna be the lead 543 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 5: story in the Washington Post and the New York Times. 544 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 5: They didn't care about all the illegals coming in. If 545 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 5: somehow there is an error in trying to track somebody down. 546 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 5: If there is an error in the way that the 547 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 5: process goes, it's going to be on the front page 548 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 5: of the newspapers. The media is going to be grilling everybody. 549 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 5: Steel spines here. You can't fix an awful problem without potentially. 550 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: It getting a little bit worse in the first place. 551 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 5: Right, Everybody who's ever dealt with anything, if you're trying 552 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 5: to rebuild a house, the beginning process of the rebuild 553 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 5: the house looks worse. 554 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: Than it does when it's finished. Right. 555 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: You got to tear down a lot of stuff in 556 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 5: order to build it back up. The teardown is going 557 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 5: to be messy, but the end result is going to 558 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 5: be worth It. Got to have a steal spine. I 559 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 5: hope our politicians and our media are willing to acknowledge 560 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 5: what's required to fix the mess that Biden and comlic created. 561 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: This is the big test of the trumpetman. We're gonna 562 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: get tax cuts, everybody. Yay, it's gonna be nice to 563 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: get tax Cut's gonna happen. Great, I want taxes. We're 564 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: gonna get new trade deals, yay, great trade deals. 565 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 2: Great. Fine. 566 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: This is the defining battle of the Trump administration. We 567 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: already know what it's going to be. 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I would put Alex 661 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 5: Bearnson in that category radicalized by COVID, And as all 662 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 5: of this has played out, he's now looking around and 663 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 5: seeing that a lot of untruths have been allowed to spread, 664 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 5: and there's a lot to discuss there. So there's many 665 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 5: different ways to reach the show. You can call eight 666 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 5: hundred and two to two a day two, but also 667 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 5: we have talkback. Let me hit a couple of these. 668 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 5: Paul in Grand Rapids, Michigan. I believe that's where Trump 669 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 5: finished his final rally, if I remember correctly, late late 670 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 5: on Monday night into Tuesday morning, Grand Rapids, Michigan, the 671 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 5: red state of Michigan. 672 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 2: Paul, what you got for us? So let's listen to this. 673 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 8: Hey, Clary Buck, I just want to let you know 674 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 8: that my family is all pretty much Democrat, and if 675 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 8: they were that bad towards me, I would probably just say, well, 676 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 8: that's I guess your choice. If you can't handle me 677 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 8: being who I am, I guess you don't love me anymore. 678 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 8: And it would be very sad to find that out, 679 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 8: but there'd be no skin off my nose because I, 680 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 8: unfortunately do not put up with the craziness anymore. 681 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, Buck, I just I want to reiterate this. 682 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 5: Thanksgiving is the week after next right, We're about sixteen 683 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 5: days away from Thanksgiving if I'm doing my math right. 684 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 5: The idea that any of you would end lifelong relationships 685 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 5: over the election is so crazy to me that I 686 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 5: would just submit to you that while you might disagree politically, 687 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 5: don't give up your lifelong relationships, don't give up your 688 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 5: lifelong friendships. And I know many of you are not 689 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 5: making that choice, but I just non partisan basis. I mean, 690 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 5: I was upset when Joe Biden won. The idea that 691 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 5: I wouldn't go to Thanksgiving because somebody voted for Joe 692 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: Biden is crazy to me. Brian and Wooster Mass also 693 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 5: talking back with us. 694 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: Brian, what you got? 695 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 7: It's Brian in Worcester, Mass. I'm just wondering if you 696 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 7: guys could bring up something about Trump pulling all of 697 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 7: these Republicans out of Congress to go into cabinet positions. 698 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 7: I mean, you guys were talking about how we lost 699 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 7: a lot as key Senate on that key, but Senate 700 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 7: seats that we could have got, and now the majority 701 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 7: that we do have, he's cannibalizing to put into the cabinet. 702 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 7: So what are your opinions on that? 703 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: Thanks, it's a fair question. Thank you for the talkback. 704 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: But this is the good news, is nothing to be 705 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: worried about. Let's say Mark Rubio become Secretary of State, 706 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: which we believe is going to happen, then he would 707 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: be replaced by Senator I'm sorry, by Governor DeSantis filling 708 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: that as a Senate seat until the next election, so 709 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: you'll have a Republican. 710 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: In that seat. 711 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: They're not pulling any Republican senators out of a purple 712 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: or a blue state for this kind of a thing. 713 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,399 Speaker 2: So it's nothing to. 714 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 5: Where there's a Democrat governor to your point, Buck, where 715 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 5: you're going to get an appointment that's going to change 716 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 5: the political calculus. 717 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 2: Now the House is going to be close. 718 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 5: What it will mean is elections sooner rather than later, 719 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 5: depending on for instance, at least Stephonic going and becoming 720 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 5: ambassador to the UN her what I think is quite 721 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 5: reliably red seat. There will be a primary to figure 722 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 5: out who's going to be taking over that job, but 723 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 5: you shouldn't be concerned. They are not taking any Senate 724 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 5: seat away from Republicans so far as the cabinet is 725 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 5: being filled out. We'll give you the latest on this. 726 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 5: Our buddy Alex Bearnson, who is right on everything with COVID, 727 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 5: will be with us. We'll also talk some In the 728 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 5: third hour, a Democrat congressman finally said men shouldn't be 729 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 5: able to win women's championships, and they're revolting against him.