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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me,

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Speaker 1: Tommy Di Dario. Oh my god. I hope you are

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Speaker 1: ready to laugh, and I hope you're ready to smile

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Speaker 1: because my guest today is Matt Rogers, who is bringing

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Speaker 1: all the good vibes and charm to my show. Matt

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Speaker 1: is a renaissance man. He's an actor, comedian, writer, recording artist.

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Speaker 1: You may also know him as the co host of

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Speaker 1: the award winning podcast Las Culture Restess with Boeen Yang.

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Speaker 1: He's also dubbed the Prince of Christmas, and he dropped

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Speaker 1: his debut festive, pop dance satirical album Have You Heard

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Speaker 1: of Christmas? A couple of years ago, which is now

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Speaker 1: turning into an epic Christmas tour that kicks off in December.

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Speaker 1: And he's just built this really quirky and beloved holiday brand.

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Speaker 1: I am here for it, and guys, we are covering

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Speaker 1: it all, and I mean it all. We go in

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Speaker 1: eight hundred different directions with this conversation, which honestly is

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Speaker 1: exactly how I like it. So, as you were home

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Speaker 1: preparing for your Thanksgiving holidays and making that stuffing or

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Speaker 1: mashed potatoes, maybe that truffle Mac and cheese like I do.

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Speaker 1: And yes it is an iconic recipe. I hope this

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Speaker 1: conversation brings some joy and cheer your way. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's see if today we can get Matt to say

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Speaker 1: something that he has never said before. Matt Rogers, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this moment with you. Like wise, actually,

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Speaker 1: we have seen each other quite a bit out and about.

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Speaker 1: It's been like just across the way, right, but we've

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Speaker 2: I know, and I'm feel so warmly towards Geo. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it was so sweet when I did GMA. I think

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Speaker 2: it was early, early, early, early this year. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: felt like immediate friendship vibe. So my extension you as well.

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Speaker 1: You're part of the family. Now you're part of going

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Speaker 1: to be adopted. Okay, great, great?

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Speaker 2: Joining your family would be really good for me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, amazing. We have no kids, but we are, I

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Speaker 2: So broken is people. I'm like, I'm like, am I okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome to the family. I hope you like Italians

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Speaker 1: and Cubans were a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I do actually, Okay, don't threaten me with a good time.

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Speaker 1: All right, good, Oh my god, we're already starting like that.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm here for it. Well, you were someone

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Speaker 1: I've wanted to talk to you for a while because

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Speaker 1: I so much relate to you in the sense that

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Speaker 1: you are this renaissance man. You do it all. I

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Speaker 1: mean you do it all, and I feel like every

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Speaker 1: time I see you, there's a new project or you're

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Speaker 1: always surprise me with what you're doing next, which I

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Speaker 1: think is really cool. So when you think of everything

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Speaker 1: you've achieved, what is something that you're super proud of

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Speaker 2: You know, what's funny is it's like I never really

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Speaker 2: Thought, oh, one thing, we'll catch on, And I think

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Speaker 2: I had a sense that it wasn't going to be

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Speaker 2: Had so much access to people that you know, were

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Speaker 2: these talents. But in terms of what makes me most proud,

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Speaker 2: it's hard to pick one or the other, because there's

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Speaker 2: the Christmas stuff, which I get to flex certain muscles,

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Speaker 2: then there's also the podcast, and I can't ignore how

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Speaker 2: proud I am of the community that we've built and

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Speaker 2: how how that just seems like something that naturally developed

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Speaker 2: in terms of in terms of what I'm most proud of,

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Speaker 2: the movie Fire Island like for something like that, Like

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Speaker 1: Podcast, Well, and I feel like You've had so many

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Speaker 1: pinch me moments throughout the course of your career. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: it seems like Fire Island was one of them. Never

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Speaker 1: imagining you could be a part of something like that.

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Speaker 2: I think I could imagine it. It was like I could,

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Speaker 2: because they will do that nine times out of ten.

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Speaker 2: That to me was the special thing about it. I

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Speaker 2: I kind of went into dysmorphic shock because I had

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Speaker 2: It's like a weird thing when you watch yourself doing

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Speaker 2: think in my recent rewatch of it, like I'm even

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a cult favorite. Now people love turning

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Speaker 1: so cool to see that. And what I love about

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Speaker 1: you is I'm very much believe that we shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: What would you say, ties everything together with what you do?

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Speaker 2: I think that fun ties everything together, because that's really

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Speaker 2: go and just, I don't know, make people feel better

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Speaker 2: after I've interacted with it then before.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: I feel really lucky that I actually have fun doing

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Speaker 2: something that they're obligated to promote. I never feel like that.

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Speaker 2: Every single time I'm talking about something, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm doing this with my friend or I'm part of this,

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Speaker 2: like for example, with Palm Royal coming out, I will

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Speaker 2: I'm just followed the fun and follow my opportunities to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's probably one of the many reasons why

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Speaker 1: you're so successful is you genuinely have so much joy

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Speaker 1: and what you do. You're not phoning it in, You're

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Speaker 2: Really fake stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very hard for me. Yeah, what's your back?

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Speaker 1: You're not Italian?

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Speaker 2: No, but I was around a lot of Italians growing up.

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Speaker 2: I am Roman Catholic from Long Island. Okay, so I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, Greek agreed, Even that was.

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Speaker 2: More like we weren't really like my My grandmother took

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Speaker 2: she was like, oh, my culture, our culture. I was like, kinda,

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel like we caused play Italian more.

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Speaker 2: I get that a lot. But the allive tones of

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Speaker 2: But then I did take a twenty three in me

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Speaker 1: Grandma, Okay, you weren't Greek. Grandma might not like Greek.

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Speaker 1: Oh god. Yeah, all right, well I can tell you

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Speaker 2: It's a lot. It's like, it's like, it's it's all

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Speaker 2: then there's also the idea that I was, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: And then unfortunately they gave me a podcast.

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Speaker 1: Well thank god they gave you a podcast, an award

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Speaker 1: winning podcast. I mean, who doesn't love loves culture resist

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Speaker 1: it is so epican.

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Speaker 2: You a certain swav some gay men on the internet.

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Speaker 1: Well, we don't need to care about that. We don't

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Speaker 2: That is the answer to your question.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair, but whatever Irrelevantga well that's probably true too,

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Speaker 1: That's probably true. Okay, Well let's ignore that for a minute.

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Speaker 1: Who doesn't love it? Nobody? Right, everybody, like, please, I

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Speaker 1: haven't heard of anyone. Everybody loves it. It's so epic.

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Speaker 1: You began it in twenty sixteen, right, yeah, And I

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Speaker 1: imagine that when you're starting a show, and I know

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Speaker 1: when you're starting a show, it takes a lot of work,

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Speaker 1: a lot of grit to find its footing, build the audience.

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Speaker 1: Most podcasts fail, people quit, they launch it six months later,

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Speaker 1: you never see it again. So what kept you going

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Speaker 1: in those early years when you and Bowen were like,

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Speaker 1: is this going to work out? Is it not going

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Speaker 2: I think the fact that we never asked that question

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Speaker 2: I think we started talking about doing it like in

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a few. So I think one of

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00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: my favorites that made it into the show this year

436
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 2: was best Batman Woman. I just liked the way it

437
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: sounds Best Batman Woman, Like like, it just makes me

438
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 2: happy to think about because as gay as like, the

439
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 2: Batman women are the reason for the season, you know,

440
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: Poison Ivy about all the catwoman's and we love them all.

441
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 2: It's about doctor Chase Meridians, you know what I mean,

442
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,399
Speaker 2: Like we know that that was a huge part of

443
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 2: my awakening as a queer person, and was going into

444
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 2: the Blockbuster and going over to the Batman Forever VHS

445
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: and seeing Nicole Kimmens like Veronica hair on the cover

446
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 2: and the way that she like the noir way. She

447
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: got a bunch of blankets and went to the window

448
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: and Val Kilmer came in and there was this tension

449
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 2: between them. It was so gay and so best Batman

450
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 2: woman that being a part of the show. I remember,

451
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: we just tossed out some nominees and I made one up, Robin.

452
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,959
Speaker 2: It's not Robin, He's not nominated. Not Batman's Robin. It's

453
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 2: actually Robin with a y who's the Riddler's assistant. And

454
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: then when I realized Kristin Wig was going to be

455
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 2: available for the show and she could potentially create this

456
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 2: new character, we pitched it to her and she liked

457
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 2: the idea. So this dumb idea I had that was

458
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: connected to something from I think all of our queer childhoods.

459
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: If you're if you are a certain type of queer

460
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 2: That then became an excuse for Kristin Wig to do

461
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: an original character and like kind of start our show

462
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: because it was very early on in the show that

463
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: was that was really cool. So that might be my

464
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: favorite category right now.

465
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: I would say it's so good. It's poison Ivy was

466
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: my personal to one, like, loved me some poison Ivy.

467
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: I can't argue with you. So good?

468
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean had Uma said yes, maybe we would

469
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: have had Christ to do something else.

470
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Speaker 1: In the spirit of let's culturistas, what is your ultimate

471
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: rule of culture?

472
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: The ultimate rule of culture? Actually, I have one and

473
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: I've said this before, but I'm going to say it again.

474
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: Jaws was the first girl boss.

475
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: I need more, I need more.

476
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: Jaws was a woman. Okay, people don't know that.

477
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 1: Is that confirmed?

478
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 2: Yes?

479
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: Okay, I never heard that, but okay, well I can confirm. Okay, great, great.

480
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: Everyone's like because you know, it's it's pop culture history

481
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: that the shark that like played Jaws was a shark

482
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: named Bruce. That's like Steven Spielberg lore. But that's just

483
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: the prop that they were using. Canonically in the movie.

484
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: The character of Jaws was a woman, wow, and she

485
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: was uncompromising and getting what she wanted. She was gonna

486
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: eat the girls. You know what I'm saying. It's like

487
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: she was in her industry, the apex predator. She was

488
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: number one. She was essentially Oprah of the seas. Wow,

489
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: Jaws was the Opra of the seas. That's another way

490
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 2: to say the rule of culture, like Jaws was the

491
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: first girl boss. I believe that's real culture number six.

492
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: Another way you could say it is Jaws was the

493
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 2: Opra of the seas, and she was an icon and

494
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: cinema history, cinema history like it's like Hannibal Lecter, you know,

495
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: the guy, my guy from Psycho Norman Bates and Jaws.

496
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, she her. That's I feel so blessed to now

497
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,439
Speaker 1: look at Oprah in a different way because I will

498
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: always think of Jaws when I think of Oprah.

499
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: They were both. They will a lot of people wanted

500
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: Oprah to run for president, like Jaws was like the

501
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 2: most powerful political figure in the season as well, because

502
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: you have to understand, just by sheer size that creates

503
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: a hierarchy. No one was stepping to her. So I

504
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: think we see now what happens when when a dominant

505
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: political voice arrives, Like people just really start to follow,

506
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: and many fish followed her. That's actually how they travel

507
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: in schools of fish.

508
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Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you for that. Thank you. I feel

509
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: really good to know that now, and I don't disagree

510
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: at all. That was a really eye opening point. You

511
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: will be better for having the I already feel better.

512
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: Thank you.

513
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: It's just I just don't want to erase the fact

514
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: that Jaws was a woman.

515
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: We will never forget. Yeah, we will never forget. This

516
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: is one of the many reasons why people love your

517
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: sho It's.

518
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: Why do you think because of crazy bullshit like that?

519
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there's so many things and the I don't

520
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: think so, honey. I mean that is that is probably

521
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: like the number one thing people associate.

522
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: Do you want to know what Bowen just said to

523
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: me the other day? He goes, do you think in

524
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: the new year we should not do I don't think so, honey.

525
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Why would he ever say that?

526
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: That's breaking news. I've never said that before.

527
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: Well, like, why would he say that?

528
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: I think?

529
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: Are you both over it?

530
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: There are? Actually, you know what, I've refallen in love

531
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: with the form because when we first started doing it,

532
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, this is like a way

533
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: to give energy at the end of the episode. I

534
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: actually liked it. We did not invent a sixty second rant.

535
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: And now people are like say about other podcasts, like

536
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 2: you guys rip that off. Last Culturalistas. To be clear,

537
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: none of us are original. It's a one minute rant

538
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 2: on something in Papulchill like this has been done. Now

539
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: when it's like they'll say things like certain podcasts have

540
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: things like this is my you know, it's something that's

541
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: like very similar to I Don't Think So honey, Like

542
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: it's like no, no Baby. It's like, okay, I'm that

543
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: he no No Baby might be a ripoff, but you know,

544
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: we started doing it and it was exciting in the beginning,

545
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: and we would do live shows around that. We used

546
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: to do I Don't Think So Honey live. We'd have

547
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: like fifty comedians all on stage. We called the Gay

548
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Bonnaroo back in the day. You should look at some

549
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: of our set lists now with the names that are on.

550
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: It was like Iowa, Deboray, Rachel Senate Patty Harrison and

551
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Julio Torres like me Bowen, like everyone all on the

552
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: same show. It was cool. Padma did it once, you know,

553
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 2: just like so then I was like really enthusiastic about it,

554
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: and then as the podcast went on, you're kind of

555
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: just like, Okay, I'm running out of shit to do

556
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: because the guests come in and they just do one

557
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: bowen and I have done hundreds of I don't think

558
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: so Honey's and even an opinionated person would run out

559
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: of shit to say.

560
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: It's a long time to talk.

561
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: By the way, it's a long time, but I can

562
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: do it, and like it does go quicker than you think,

563
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: but I think I take for granted, like all of

564
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: our guests that come in are panicked about it, and

565
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I get it. It's like it because it

566
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: seems like it's going to be a but once you

567
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: start going, yeah, have you have the energy, you have

568
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: the time.

569
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: Do you really plan them and prep them or do

570
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: you do them off the.

571
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: Cow because I got really sick of doing it, like

572
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: I said, But now that we are on social media

573
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: more like we finally started posting social clips and we

574
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: finally started like recording the majority of our episodes, I'm like, okay,

575
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: it's an opportunity. So I've started to prepare a little

576
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: bit more. And it is, you know, it is a

577
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: succinct way to get some feelings across. Jeff Probes knows

578
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 2: how I feel about him right now, or he doesn't,

579
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: which is also fine, but he could.

580
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: Know if I gave you one right now. Could you

581
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: do it a topic?

582
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: If you gave me a topic, Yeah, we used to

583
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: do this all the time. But I had something called

584
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: if you didn't, if you had the live shows, if

585
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: you didn't have a topic, I would have you pick

586
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: out of the troll bowl, which was all topics that

587
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: I had chosen and Bowen had chosen. That would be

588
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: incredibly hard to do. And I don't think so many

589
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: about like Princess Diana.

590
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, I'm not gonna give you a

591
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: hard one. I'm gonna give you a broad one, just

592
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: saying you could and hard. So now you're challenging me

593
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: to give you a hot pick out.

594
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: Of the troll bowl of your mind and give me it.

595
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, And then we'll.

596
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: What I was gonna give you was just the theme

597
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: of Christmas. And you can say whatever you want. But

598
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: that feels easy. I don't think so.

599
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Money Christmas, you are too fucking much. It's enough. Also,

600
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: fall does not have its moment anymore, you've completely robbed it.

601
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: Christmas starts on October fifteenth for some of the craziest

602
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: people in America. I don't think so, honey, if you

603
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: are engaging with Christmas content before Halloween and you are

604
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: literally out there and it's not a thing of like,

605
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: I just love Christmas, No, you just love I guess

606
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: being annoying attention like it's it's annoying, it's it's and

607
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it's. Because I don't think so, honey,

608
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: that falls disappearing so much. I can't even get a

609
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: pumpkin beer in this city, which is and it's why

610
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: I moved here, you know what I mean. I don't

611
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: think so honey, that like fall is completely gone. They

612
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: were in Vegas the other day. They tried to give

613
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: me a stout. I said, this is a Christmas beer.

614
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: I don't think so honey. Even you Mariah, it's too much.

615
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: I understand that it's a big industry for you around

616
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: this time of year. I participated in the industry. I

617
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: think it's never too early technically to stream. Have you

618
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: heard of Christmas? You can do it in May, June, July.

619
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: But I don't think you are necessarily needing to rub

620
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: that off on other people. Keep it to yourself. I

621
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 2: don't think so, honey, Christmas in December.

622
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, yes, yes, yes, yes, I feel

623
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: like I need to go home and just lay down

624
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: after that. Yes, so that was I'm hot, I'm sweating,

625
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm like.

626
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,719
Speaker 2: I'm but this is what I do, you know what

627
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: I mean? So, like that's me and Bowen, like we

628
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: do that and it's kind of in our bones now,

629
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: and the guest I have to go there like I

630
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: want to jump off a bridge, right, like every single

631
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: guest we've had over the past like year, after we

632
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: do ours, it's like watching a little baby get on

633
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: a roller coaster. It's like no, no, no, no, no, no, no

634
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: no no, And then that you have fun after That's

635
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: actually literally what it's like. That was getting a little

636
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: roller coaster and doing the ride, letting it happen, and

637
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: then afterwards you feel you fork you want to get

638
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: on again.

639
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: Well, I just had a spiritual awakening. Thank you. I'm happy,

640
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: thank you for that.

641
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: I was hoping that someone would happen.

642
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: Yes, that was so good. This is all of the

643
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: things you do. You're right, But to your point, earlier.

644
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: It's joy, it's happiness, and that's why people are loving

645
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: all the different lanes you're in even today with Jenna

646
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: and Friends. Right like you go on you co host

647
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: that show, and people all over the internet are like,

648
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: we need him to be the permanent co host. That's nice,

649
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: we need him in that chair full time. You've seen

650
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: that you've had to, I've.

651
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: Definitely seen people being being really kind and supportive, and

652
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: that's obviously like I look at it like I look

653
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: at it like I'm going to work, you know what

654
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: I mean. Like when I get the opportunity to go

655
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: in there to co host, I want to go do

656
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: the job of co host. And so it's been so

657
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: fun to go the times that I've gone, and I

658
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: really genuinely love her. I was texting with her yesterday

659
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: because I was having kind of a hard day and

660
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: she just like is so easy to talk to and

661
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: she's just really real person and it's it's funny like

662
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: she has been obviously someone I've known about since I

663
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: was a little kid, because you know, she was the

664
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: first granddaughter and then the first daughter and everyone had,

665
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: you know, a lot to say about her and the

666
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: media way back when and I'm just really impressed by

667
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: how she's grown into such an amazing leader at that show.

668
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: And there's so many incredible women at that show. And

669
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, gay men and some straight allies, some like

670
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: you know, but it's mostly these incredible women now at

671
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: that show that make you feel so held and so

672
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 2: warm and so supported. So I jump at any chance

673
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: to go there and be around her and her team.

674
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: Would you ever want something like that full time?

675
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: I guess if they were to like engage with me

676
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: in that way, I would see consider it. But the

677
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: thing is, I don't look at it like an audition.

678
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: I don't because I just don't think. I don't think

679
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 2: they're gonna ask, So I just look at it like

680
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: a really fun opportunity to do to case play as

681
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: that for a while, because it's like you said, I

682
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: look at all these things as like, yeah, let's throw

683
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: things at the wall and see what sticks.

684
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

685
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 2: So it's just one another one of those things that

686
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: I get to do that I have so much fun doing.

687
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: I'm not there to gun for that job, and I

688
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: get why it's maybe fun for people to think of

689
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: it like it's a competition between the guest hosts that

690
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: are going in there, But for me, it's just like

691
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: an opportunity to hang out with her and genuinely to

692
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: like have fun cosplaying in that job.

693
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Well, that's why you do your best work. That's why

694
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: it's natural and fun and engaging because you can go

695
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: in and just be yourself and not think about all

696
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: those things that probably other people do you think about,

697
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: and it's very it's very natural and fun to watch

698
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: you create all these viral moments like Halloween when you

699
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: guys did Double Wares product, all.

700
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: The makeup and costume people.

701
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: You nailed it. I'm telling you.

702
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: It was just me deepening my voice a little bit

703
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: and wearing the clothes and the bald cap. They it

704
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: was unreal. And it was actually the special effects, hair

705
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: and makeup team from SNL Man that we're putting me

706
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: in that, and so I felt really kind of honored

707
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 2: to have them put a bald cap on me because

708
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: you know, they're so good at what they do, and

709
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: also they've worked with Bowen for years, like they had

710
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: just put him in full Dobby Giche yeah, right like

711
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: three weeks before.

712
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: It was so good and it created this viral moment

713
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: and it was so fun to watch. I feel like

714
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: I always see you in these viral moments every time

715
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: I opened my Explore page, including this last week breaking

716
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: the internet with your little soft launch of your relationship.

717
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: We'll say I wasn't even really trying to soft lunch.

718
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: I think I was just like, yeah, like, I'm going

719
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: to post these pictures from Bravo Khan, and it just

720
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: so happened that me and Fraser took what I thought

721
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: was the best picture out of the ones I was posting.

722
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: It felt like that one should be first. And yeah,

723
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm having a really really great time with him. He's

724
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: such a wonderful person.

725
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: You seem happy, and that's what matters, and it's nice

726
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: for people. I think people. I think the excitement over

727
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: social media and the articles that were coming out. We're

728
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: also yes, there's always a gossip side, but I think

729
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: people genuinely are invested in you and your happiness because

730
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: they've been following you for a while and you have

731
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: him pretty private about your dating life over the years.

732
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: Well, I think that especially because by the way, that's

733
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: that's nice that if people are interested in they're they're

734
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: I'll take it as a as a good thing.

735
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: But.

736
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: It's been hard to watch the podcast grow and have

737
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: a sort of The tone in the beginning was we're

738
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: very honest about our lives, and that meant I was

739
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: talking about my boyfriends, whoever they were, whoever I was dating.

740
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: I talk a lot about my sex life. I talk

741
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: a lot about what I feel about romance. I'm pretty candid,

742
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: and some of my exes did not like being you know,

743
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: depicted on the podcast. And I had one relationship and

744
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: really badly and it came it just like, you know,

745
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: I'm sensitive to sharing information about other people. When it's

746
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: about me, it's whatever, right, But when it's about other people,

747
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's when it's it's hard. And so it

748
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 2: gets weird to share intimate details about your personal life,

749
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 2: even though people are used to that from you when

750
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: you're in Now, what's kind of a weird mixed company,

751
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: because I know that the podcast is big enough where

752
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: not everyone is listening because they love me or because

753
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: they are rooting for me. I want the best. Some

754
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: people are just like you know, casual listeners who you know,

755
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: information that's really personal to me, and to other people

756
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: that would you know, perhaps compromise something they didn't want

757
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: out there is something I have to think about and

758
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 2: you know it, Like, for example, I like sharing things

759
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: about my life with people that follow me. I did

760
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: not share a picture, and I will never. I will

761
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: never share a picture of me and someone else so

762
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: that it can be reported in outlets. Right, I don't

763
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: want that, but I do, like enjoy so many people

764
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: in my life and I want to share that. So

765
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: it's like an interesting walk.

766
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the picture you shared, you weren't thinking, like

767
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: to your point, this is my launch, this is my lafe.

768
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean I figured, like maybe are people that were

769
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: mutual fans of mine and his because this also is

770
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: my first time like really engaging with another like I

771
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: guess public figure in that way. It sounds so annoying

772
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: and gross to talk about, but you kind of get it,

773
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

774
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: It's like.

775
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: When when people can talk about something, some of them

776
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: will and so it's it's just new for me.

777
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yes.

778
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: Yes, wasn't looking for just Jared reports. But I understand

779
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: why it happened.

780
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and does a party you feel good that it's

781
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: out there? Like were you hiding it for you or

782
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: keeping it for you?

783
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: Or I wasn't hiding it at all. I don't even

784
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: think about I don't want to be someone that thinks

785
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: about like and when strategically would be it's like, I

786
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: just want to like, I want to be casual and yeah,

787
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 2: so and we are. We had been everywhere together for

788
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 2: about three months before it went to the internet, and

789
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: no one cared. And I'm sure no one will care

790
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: in seconds or if they don't care already, that's one

791
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: hundred percent great. But yeah, I mean, I don't know,

792
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: I adore this guy. He should he would be on

793
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: my Instagram anyway. Yeah, everyone that I adore is on

794
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: my Instagram.

795
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

796
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: Like I I'm really really blessed with the people that

797
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: I have in my like close friends, Like I probably

798
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: have like ten people eleven twelve people that I would

799
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: trust with everything, which makes me really happy and lucky. Yeah,

800
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: and they show up in the reflection of my life

801
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: that is the Instagram page.

802
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean that's a beautiful thing. And it's

803
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing when you find your tribe and you

804
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: keep it close and you know your friends, meet who

805
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: you're dating and like and everyone gets along. It's a

806
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: really beautiful thing.

807
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's really been the case too, which is

808
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: another like huge relief, you know what I mean, Like

809
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: all you want is for everyone that you like and

810
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: even love to gel. Yeah, and that's that's good.

811
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: As a big Bravo fan, did you ever imagine you'd

812
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: be dating someone in the.

813
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: Bravo In fact, at the very beginning, I was like, oh,

814
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: that's a thing. You know, before you engage with people,

815
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: you obviously see who they are. And we did. We

816
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: did start talking on Instagram.

817
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: You might say too much about this, but like, yeah,

818
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: you met on Instagram.

819
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: We started talking on Instagram, like I actually, you know, yeah,

820
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: so it happened there. And of course then you can

821
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: judge someone by their Instagram presence, and you know, when

822
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: you see someone is also a public figure or on

823
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: a reality show, et cetera. Of course there's you know,

824
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: little things you think. But then when you meet a

825
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: person and they're lovely, yeah, it doesn't matter what they do. Yeah,

826
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: it just becomes a thing. And also I think it's

827
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: kind of nice sometimes too. You look for things you

828
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: have in common, and I think we haven't in common.

829
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Stuff that's related to being people that are potentially perceived

830
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 2: or followed.

831
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Geo and I met on Instagram. Did you. We did.

832
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: We did I put into his DM.

833
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: That was a good DM.

834
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: It was a good DM slide. We went on a

835
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: date like a week later, and April will be ten

836
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: years married.

837
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: That is incredible. You guys are It's Is it weird

838
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 2: now in the year twenty twenty five to be like

839
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: a couple of goals? No?

840
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: I still love hearing.

841
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys are a couple of goals. I mean

842
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: I you guys are. It's sort of like you guys

843
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: could too, like a college course on how to look

844
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: hot on vacation. Oh god, you really should look into that.

845
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: I think n Yu Gallaton, would.

846
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: You think so? Yeah?

847
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: I think I think that you could. We could do.

848
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: What are the perimeters, I'm not sure I know what

849
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: they are?

850
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: You just kind of you would that is what you

851
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: would have.

852
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: I have to come up with them.

853
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: You'd have to come up with the curriculum. It got it? Okay, listen,

854
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: like I'm just saying, it's sort of it's worth studying.

855
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: Okay, good to know. Good tonight.

856
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: I would have taken the class.

857
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to work on that and if you don't

858
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: show up for that class, I'm going to be pissed.

859
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: I'll re enroll as it were.

860
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, well God, can you imagine? Hey Tommy,

861
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: how was work today? Well, we're going to do a class.

862
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to be the only student. Yeah. Take

863
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: that with what you will.

864
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be great. I am obsessed with this new

865
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,479
Speaker 1: chapter for you. I love love. I'm a sucker for love.

866
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: I think it's great when there's visibility of gay men

867
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: showing healthy forms of that out there, right, and not

868
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: that we all like walk around living our life purposefully

869
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: doing that, but I just I still think we live

870
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: in a day and age where it's not the norm,

871
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: and I love seeing. Like my reaction when I saw

872
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: that was just like good for you, like cool, Like

873
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: I hope you're happy. I hope you continue to be happy,

874
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: and let's see where it all goes for you, and

875
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: nothing but good vibes.

876
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: I am happy, And thank you for saying that and

877
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: for for being that type of person, because so many

878
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: people aren't. And I do get it, Like I get

879
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 2: it's so easy to get on the internet and dunk

880
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: on people who are, you know, sharing things or being vulnerable.

881
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: It's just so boring. I know, it's just it's not interesting.

882
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: I know, you know what I mean.

883
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: I think it's more interesting to be like supportive, and

884
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: you know, I just feel like every single thing that's

885
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: positive in my life is from positive community, is from

886
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 2: being surrounded by people who encourage you to be all

887
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: of yourself and the best version of yourself. And so,

888
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, thanks for being one of those people.

889
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: I got you hard. The internet, I know it does,

890
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: but I and trust me, we see it from a

891
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: lot of I'm sure you don't. Gay people on social

892
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: as well sometimes say the most hurtful things about your relationship,

893
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: and which is crazy to me. That's a whole other

894
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 1: episode we can dive into. Yeah, so that's.

895
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: The college course. Will we'll well, well someone else will

896
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: teach it. Yeah, we can do a guest panel.

897
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: Like a guest panel. I love it, just a little

898
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: a little peak because we haven't talked about enough things

899
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: and I feel like we've been all over the map today.

900
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: I have to bring up your Christmas show as the

901
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: Prince of Christmas is it self proclaimed Prince of Christmas

902
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: or where you deemed Prince of Christmas.

903
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: By like Kerry or can you imagine?

904
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: Does she call you that?

905
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 2: No? I would never bother her with my bullshit. In fact,

906
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: she came on the podcast and I had like a

907
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 2: full Santa hat on, and I was like so excited,

908
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: and people, the readers that listen to my podcast, which

909
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: is what we call them, they were like, why didn't

910
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: you bring up that you're the Prince of Christmas to

911
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: the Queen of Christmas. I was like, guys, understand, like,

912
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm not rolling the dice on this, like I can't.

913
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: All I wanted to do was exalt her in that

914
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: hour we had with her and talk about like how

915
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: she wrote the song the Roof, Like I am not

916
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: gonna waste one second of the precious time I have

917
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: with one of the greatest artists of all time to

918
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 2: be like, you know, I'm the Prince of Christmas. Like

919
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: she'd be like huh, because no, I don't think she knows,

920
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 2: and that is capital F fine mm hmmm. I Also,

921
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: I would be nervous if she did engage with it, because.

922
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: Like if she just gave you a blank stare and

923
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: just shut you down.

924
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: Feeling terrible, well, at the end of our recording with her,

925
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: I had brought this little cassette tape that I had.

926
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: It was Mariah and Boys to Men one Sweet Day,

927
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 2: and I'm telling you, it was like a vintage cassette

928
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: tape and I hope that she would sign it. And

929
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: after the podcast ended, it went well enough where I thought, Okay,

930
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have her signed the cassette, and so I

931
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: handed her the cassette and as she was signing it, unfortunately,

932
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: my anxiety took over and I just started talking about

933
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: the cassette. Yeah, I've had that since I was like

934
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: like six years old, and I remember actually one I

935
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: was little, I had to have an MRI taken. And

936
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: when you have an MRI taken, they let you listen

937
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: to music, so because you know, you're in the mooth

938
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: for a while, and she's like signing it looking at me,

939
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: like what are you talking about? She's like, I was like,

940
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: it's not a big deal. I just had a syst

941
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: in my nose. I needed to get removed. But unfortunately

942
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: I was moving and grooving so much to your songs

943
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: because I enjoy your music so much that I had

944
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: to do the MRI again, and so I actually had

945
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: to take a second MRI, and eventually I had the surgery,

946
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: but it wasn't until years later and she's looking at

947
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: me like.

948
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: What.

949
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's good that I didn't bring up my

950
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: Christmas stuff for her, because had she given me a

951
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: look similar to that one, I would have melted. I

952
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: would have died.

953
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: You would have stopped the Christmas brand entirely.

954
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe. I was like, thank god I did

955
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: this after the podcast and not before, because she would

956
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: have been like, we got to get the fuck out

957
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 2: of here, like there's no way.

958
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: Well, okay, self proclaimed Prince of Christmas. I love it.

959
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: I love that you did this satirical album a few

960
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: years ago, and that gives pipes. By the way you sing,

961
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: thank you you sing. So let's be very clear about that.

962
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: I work hard on it just because I think it's

963
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: funnier when it sung.

964
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: Well. No, it's sung very well, and people loved it

965
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: and connect to it. And now you're doing a tour.

966
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've basically the development and change the metamorphosis

967
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: of the show is kind of wild because I did

968
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: it for the first time in twenty seventeen just because

969
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,479
Speaker 2: I wanted to put up a show and I thought

970
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: it would be so funny to pretend I was a

971
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: pop star with an album that was the Prince of Christmas,

972
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: sort of satirizing the idea of like the way pop

973
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: stars will release a Christmas album not because they love Christmas,

974
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: but because they want the money and to be part

975
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: of that industry. Sort of inspired by Mariah's ubiquity and

976
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: a queendom of Christmas, very directly inspired by that and

977
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: all pop stars that are like, I love Christmas and

978
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 2: have a record for you to buy. The bit being

979
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: that my album didn't exist and it was just this

980
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: craven attempt to be seasonally ubiquitous, but we loved doing

981
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: it so much, and the people that came to the

982
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: show sort of then knew the songs every year, and

983
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: I kept doing it until it grew into an actual album,

984
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: So I kind of long conned myself. The special which

985
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: is on taking a Deep Breath show Time with Paramount

986
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: Plus Exhausted. And Yeah, now the tour, which this is

987
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: the third year in ROW I've been doing like bigger venues,

988
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: like last year we sold out Webster Hall. We're going

989
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: to play Terminal five.

990
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: It's amazing, it's amazing.

991
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: It's it's it's really fun to just know that you

992
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: had any bit payoff. Yeah, Like as a comedian. It's

993
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: like when the Bit there's nothing better than when the

994
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: Bit lands, and the fact that the Bit lands every year,

995
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: it's like a recurring.

996
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: And getting bigger and bigger and bigger every year. So

997
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: this kicks off December third, December third, and how can

998
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: people get tickets?

999
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: Matt Rodgersoficial dot com or you can go to Instagram

1000
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: and there's a link in the bio, as there tends

1001
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: to be for these types of things. It's really a fun,

1002
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: dumb night. It doesn't take itself an ounce of seriously.

1003
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: Imagine if it did. But what I do take seriously

1004
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: is like how how well we perform it? Like the

1005
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: band is incredible. It's still Henry Koperski is my musical director,

1006
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: who was my boyfriend at the time we started writing

1007
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: it together in twenty seventeen. We are now not boyfriends,

1008
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 2: but we are super close friends and his current boyfriend

1009
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: is my tour manager. Amazing, so we keep it in

1010
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: the family.

1011
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: Amazing.

1012
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is perfectly incestuous, good for in

1013
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: a holiday way.

1014
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: Well, everyone needs to go get drunk and watch you.

1015
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: And haven't don't Well unless you are a sober person,

1016
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: well then don't do that. Don't relapse at the show relapse.

1017
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: After Thank you for that message. We needed that disclaimer.

1018
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1019
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the reason for the relapse.

1020
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: No, no, never, But if you're going to relapse, like

1021
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: it happens so I could love you more, I don't

1022
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: think I could. And as I sit here and knowing

1023
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: we got to wrap this up, I don't even know

1024
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: how long we've been talking, it's been two hours.

1025
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny. I'm so happy that we didn't

1026
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: get to the question that like promised, because which is

1027
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: I've never said.

1028
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: This, Oh we're getting there now, we are?

1029
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 2: We are because I've said it literally everything before.

1030
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: If I haven't, let's think about something.

1031
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: If I haven't said something, though it's I I said it,

1032
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: someone would.

1033
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: Like die well, oh well to please don't do that.

1034
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: It's like I don't keep like s no.

1035
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: To be fair, I feel like you have been very

1036
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: open and vulnerable today. And the reason the show is

1037
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: called that and it started is I cover a lot

1038
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: of red carpets and premieres and junkets, and you got

1039
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: three minutes with somebody if you're lucky, and it's all

1040
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: headline based and all the outlets want the same bites.

1041
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: And it's so to me, the least interesting part of

1042
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: my job.

1043
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: It's antiquated.

1044
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like why, Like nobody likes it. The

1045
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: guests don't like it, we don't like it. It's not

1046
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: you know. So I started kind of seeing people wanting

1047
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: to say more and more, Yeah, either something a little

1048
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 1: de super or more personal or unrelated to what they're

1049
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: there for. So I thought, you know what, I'm gonna

1050
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: ask this question where people can come on and whatever

1051
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: it means to them. It doesn't have to be a secret.

1052
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: It could just be a life lesson or advice or

1053
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: whatever's on their mind right now, just something that they

1054
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't say in a three minute sound bite interview.

1055
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 2: So actually now suddenly stumbled upon what it is. See

1056
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: that I've never said this before. Okay, I think the

1057
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: hottest sex scene in cinema history is Annette Benning and

1058
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: Peter Gallagher in American Beauty. Do you have you seen

1059
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: this movie?

1060
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: Of course I have.

1061
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: It's like he plays like the real estate agent called

1062
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: the King, and she's also a real estate agent, and

1063
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: they get like involved and they go to a like

1064
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: a motel and they're having sex and he's like you

1065
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: want to get you like getting fucked by the king

1066
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: and she's cheating on her husband and it's so short

1067
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: you don't see basically anything. But there was something about

1068
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: that that I thought. It was like I think I

1069
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: was really young when it came out and I saw

1070
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 2: it and I was like, I was like, it was

1071
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: something about I don't know. I hope I wasn't titillated

1072
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: by the idea that it was an affair, but I

1073
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: guess not no, but something about you want to get

1074
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: fucked by the king in a motel, and it was

1075
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: like it was they were like colleagues. There was something

1076
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: like illicit about it that has stayed with me. I

1077
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: don't know, because I'm such a rule follower. I would

1078
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: never do anything like that that. It's just like kind

1079
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: of horny for me.

1080
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: You so now you have that, Now you have that

1081
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: in your brain and you use it all the time.

1082
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 2: Let's say I use it all the time. Yeah whatever

1083
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 2: that means. No, but it's so hot, Like I don't know,

1084
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Speaker 2: and I think he's really hot.

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Speaker 1: That movie is it's a hot movie.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a hot movie, but it's like it's

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00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: also fucked you know what I mean, Like it's like

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00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: the meta suvari at all is fucked ye, Like it's

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00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: also full on space, like a full blown space. But

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Speaker 2: the thing is and so I'm not like rewatching it

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Speaker 2: a ton, but it is like something that lasts in me.

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Speaker 2: And there's something about he had like those like horny

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Speaker 2: hot eyebrows. H he was like he was like such

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Speaker 2: big eyebrows, and he was so he had like a

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00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: swagger and he was like an older guy. Like I

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00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 2: don't know what that was clear on him. I think

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Speaker 2: I was, And I think I like, I just like

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Speaker 2: there's something about a betting in that movie. She's such

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Speaker 2: like a like an unhappy, bitchy like you know, like

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00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: woman who just really needed to get fucked, I guess,

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00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: and the fact that she just got something she needed

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Speaker 2: so badly, like she was so stressed out the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: I love your I've never said this before.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe I racked my brain. I actually came

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Speaker 2: in here and I said to Melissa, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. So I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: ask me literally anything, and I'll be honest but now

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Speaker 2: I'm happy I did it.

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Speaker 1: No, that's a good one. That's a good one. I

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Speaker 1: really like it. We've learned a little bit about your kinks,

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Speaker 1: which is always an exciting day, useful, always an exciting day.

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Speaker 2: Just when I announced my relationship.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, happy for it. I'm sure he'll be very

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Speaker 1: happy here about it. And if he doesn't know this kink,

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Speaker 1: now he knows, so there you go.

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Speaker 2: He'd be like.

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Speaker 1: What movie Matt Rogers, thank you, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 1: We I feel like I need four more hours with

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Speaker 1: you because this has been so much fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, our class, uh, that I'm going to take from you,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be how to be intro to looking hot

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Speaker 2: on vacation?

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Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? Gay partner versions Okay?

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Speaker 2: Cool? I think that Yeah, for you guys to tag team,

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Speaker 2: that class would be would be really useful. I'm enrolling

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Speaker 2: and that'll be a three hour class and then we'll

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Speaker 2: do like a like an hour long study.

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Speaker 1: Hall Oh. I can't wait. Yeah, I can't wait. I

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Speaker 1: look forward to it. Thank you so much, you have

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Speaker 1: home I do. Thank you for building my brand. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: I listen, I've built some brands.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you have, Yes, you have. Everyone go see the

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Speaker 1: Christmas show called Christmas in December.

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Speaker 2: It's time we remember when Christmas is sam straight, we

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Speaker 2: were able to answer the question have you heard of Christmas?

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Speaker 2: People have? Now. I just want to like keep reminding

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Speaker 2: people the things they need to know. Christmas in December,

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Speaker 2: not November, not October, certainly not September, which I know

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Speaker 2: you'll try soon.

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Speaker 1: Get your tickets now. Merry Christmas. I've Never Said This

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Speaker 1: Before is hosted by Me Tommy Didario. This podcast is

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Speaker 1: executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio and by Me Tommy,

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