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Speaker 1: for the Texans Training Camps Special. Welcome in everybody, Happy Saturday,

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Speaker 1: are me Sean Pendergast along with original Houston Texan seth Paying.

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Speaker 1: Great to be with all of you as we are

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Speaker 1: For a variety of reasons, We are here for the

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Speaker 1: it's me and Seth. You can hear us mornings here

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Speaker 1: quite there, But for the most part, certainly his core guys,

427
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Speaker 1: like the guys that matter on this team, see football

428
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Speaker 1: through the same prism that he does in terms of

429
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Speaker 1: the importance of practice, the importance of meetings, being attentive

430
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Speaker 1: in all those things. And you know, I'm not going

431
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Speaker 1: to ignore the elephant in the room, like I My

432
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Speaker 1: sense was Bill O'Brien didn't see DeAndre Hopkins and Jadeveon

433
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Speaker 1: Clowney specifically as guys that necessarily not that they were

434
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Speaker 1: bad people or bad you know, obviously they were good players,

435
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Speaker 1: but they there they maybe didn't prioritize the same things

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Speaker 1: that O'Brien and Easterby would like to see these guys priorities, right, Yeah,

437
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Speaker 1: And you know, and the great question, as always, okay,

438
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Speaker 1: is that where does that get you at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, Because it is it's nice to be

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Speaker 1: in an environment like that where everybody's pulling in the

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Speaker 1: same direction. But I just I always think back to,

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Speaker 1: you know, whenever a coach tell me in pro football,

443
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Speaker 1: Sean Seth, we just said, we just had twenty two

444
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Speaker 1: guys just like you, we'd win the Super Bowl every year.

445
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Speaker 1: And you think, like, nah, that's not true. Like, I

446
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Speaker 1: appreciate you, I appreciate you liking my hard work, but

447
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: it's you need you need at least a few freak

448
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 1: athletes like you need you need to have. It's it's

449
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Speaker 1: good to have a bunch of blue collar plugger types

450
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Speaker 1: and everything, but you need at least a few guys

451
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: that really genuinely scare the crap out of people. So

452
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Speaker 1: it's a it's and it's always trying to find that balance.

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Speaker 1: You know, if I can have twenty two cents page,

454
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Speaker 1: you're like, okay, well the other thirty one guys better

455
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Speaker 1: be really freaking freaky. Man. So what you're saying is

456
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Speaker 1: that whatever the salary cap, I should be making one

457
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Speaker 1: twenty seconds of the salary cap. If I'm gonna understand

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Speaker 1: what you're saying and take it seriously, I need a

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Speaker 1: pay raise, like uh. So it's always that and and

460
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Speaker 1: I think right now it's got to be stressful for

461
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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien or any coach in the NFL right now

462
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Speaker 1: where you really have no way to gauge exactly how

463
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Speaker 1: good your team is. So that's what he's what he's

464
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: gauging them by right now, is Okay, are they working hard,

465
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Speaker 1: are they paying attention? Are they making are they making

466
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Speaker 1: fewer mental errors? Like you got they keep track of

467
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Speaker 1: that stuff. How many mental errors are there per practice?

468
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Speaker 1: How many technical errors? All that, and so you can

469
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Speaker 1: kind of get a feel for whether guys are focused

470
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Speaker 1: when they're practicing or not just by that data. O'Brian's

471
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Speaker 1: probably got six years of logs and spreadsheets of how many,

472
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Speaker 1: how many, how many mental errors per practice per drill,

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Speaker 1: all that, and he can tell if they're focused. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes I remember the year we went two and fourteen

475
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, there came a point in

476
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Speaker 1: the preseason where we realized, like, okay, starters were out

477
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Speaker 1: there for the first half and against what I think

478
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Speaker 1: it was a bad Tampa team, and this is we

479
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Speaker 1: got serious. There's trouble and rivers. So you you could

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Speaker 1: actually tell in the preseason with some of those games like, ooh,

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Speaker 1: this is not because you guys had gone I think

482
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Speaker 1: seven and nine year before that, right, like yeah, which

483
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Speaker 1: for an expansion team. Yeah year, we're gonna trending in

484
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Speaker 1: the right direction at that pot. Yeah yeah, there after

485
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Speaker 1: our third year, so we're going into our Yeah, going

486
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Speaker 1: into our fourth year, and we were trending up. But

487
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Speaker 1: there were some serious issues on defense, and you knew it.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if I don't know if we

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Speaker 1: would have really known it if it weren't for what

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Speaker 1: we were seeing during training, and ultimately it didn't it

491
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Speaker 1: didn't help us. I don't know, you know, so I

492
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Speaker 1: don't know knowing whether you're gonna be good or now

493
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Speaker 1: or know it. It would be good to know what

494
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Speaker 1: you should be worried about right now if if you

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Speaker 1: had the preseas. It's one of those things like if

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Speaker 1: you know that you're gonna get hit by a bus,

497
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Speaker 1: do you really want to know when it's gonna happen

498
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Speaker 1: or do you want to I'd rather just get hit

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Speaker 1: and then just be done with it. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to watch the bus

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Speaker 1: as it's coming towards me. Yeah. Yeah, there's a series

502
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Speaker 1: of horror movies that got progressively worse about that in

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Speaker 1: the late nineties early two thousands. Yeah, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: But also I think that there's only so much you

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Speaker 1: can do about it anyway, right, And in these days,

506
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Speaker 1: like I'm talking ancient history now, back in two thousand

507
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Speaker 1: and five, it's gotten harder and harder to really figure

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Speaker 1: out how good your starters are in the preseason anymore,

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Speaker 1: because guys play so little, I think with some of

510
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Speaker 1: these other guys though, the guys at the bottom roster,

511
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Speaker 1: that's where it's just gonna be a whole lot of

512
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Speaker 1: guesswork for him. You know. Sometimes sometimes guys show themselves

513
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Speaker 1: to be gamers in the preseason, guys that were just

514
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Speaker 1: only average in practice. All of a sudden, you see, Wow,

515
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Speaker 1: this kid from a small school really lit it up

516
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: versus some big time you know, Oh, look at that.

517
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: That defensive lineman from Central Northeastern Missouri State just beat

518
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Speaker 1: the crap out of some former All SEC offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive. And you don't you don't get to

520
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Speaker 1: see that now, that's so funny you say that O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: O'Brien pointed that out today. Well, we'll play the audio

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Speaker 1: a little later, but he as long as you're bringing

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Speaker 1: that up, like he brought that up specifically. There's a

524
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Speaker 1: kid from TCU who's a guard and I can't pronounce

525
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Speaker 1: his last name, but he's he's an undrafted free agent

526
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: guard and he O'Brian I'm paraphrasing with O'Brien's basically like, yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: we watched him and you know, like during camp and

528
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 1: it was you know, during some of the walkthroughs and

529
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Speaker 1: things like that, and it was and then the guy

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00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: got out there in pads and you're like, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: like you know, sometimes when the lights go on, these

532
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: guys there are certain guys that just performed better when

533
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: the lights are on or when it's an actual game,

534
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: and there are no actual games being played right now.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, when when he said it, I

536
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: tried to remember exactly how to say it, and it's

537
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: lost to me because it's Cordell. Wi you guay we

538
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect Cordelli. Yeah, I hope, I know.

539
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: I'll figure this out by tomorrow, right, So it was

540
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: that was it was interesting here and O'Brien talk about that. Um,

541
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: there are battles for the back end of the roster,

542
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: and we know special Teams is going to be a

543
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: big deal for guys that are trying to make this team,

544
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: as guys say forty five through fifty three on the

545
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. More from Michael Thomas here talking

546
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Speaker 1: about talking about special teams, which is the main reason

547
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: he was brought in to be part of that. A

548
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: lot of pride in this cut right here. You know,

549
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: remember the coaching points Bill O'Brien gave me of like yo,

550
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: you know, no one should be making yo for dictions

551
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: and you know, and all that type of stuff. But

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, this is by for the most talented

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Speaker 1: special Teams union. I've ever been a part of, being

554
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: a part of some units that have done some great

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Speaker 1: things in the NFL. Uh been number one in a

556
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: couple of units, but you know, not as great in

557
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: some other ones. When I look at this union, I

558
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: just think about the guys I'm gonna be lining up

559
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: next to and what they've already accomplished, and most of

560
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: them are super young. You know, I'm thinking about Keion Crossing,

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00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about a J. Moore, you know, Dylan CoA

562
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Speaker 1: Buddy Howe. I'm thinking about uh, you know, um what

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Speaker 1: what Brian Anger, what our kicker you know has done

564
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: John Wicks is you know eleven years in looking at PK. Scarlett,

565
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: it's just guys across the board who have made plays

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Speaker 1: day in and day out. So he basically just said

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be the best special teams in the league,

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Speaker 1: is what he Michael Thomas Thomas, Michael Thomas is you

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Speaker 1: want to suit up right now? Saith. He's like an

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Speaker 1: old school orator. Yeah. He like he was because when

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Speaker 1: he spoke about some of the social change, it was

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Speaker 1: it was pretty damn moving, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: And then when he spoke about special teams, it was

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Speaker 1: pretty damn moving too. I feel like I feel like

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Speaker 1: you could give him any topic and he's gonna do

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Speaker 1: He'll figure out a way to move you. He was.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, two years ago he was the Pro Football

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Speaker 1: focused Special Teams Player of the Year in Miami, which

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Speaker 1: is pretty impressive to do on a bad football team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and uh he So, I if there's one thing that

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Speaker 1: I really do appreciate that Bill O'Brien has done these

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, and it took him a while

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Speaker 1: to figure it out. But it was to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to get a good special team's unit out there.

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Speaker 1: And part of that is just simply having good special

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Speaker 1: teams players like Michael Thomas and actually just showing a

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Speaker 1: genuine commitment to it. That wasn't something that really wasn't

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Speaker 1: something we we always had really in the early years

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Speaker 1: of O'Brien, and then also, you know, throughout Kubiak's stay,

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Speaker 1: the special teams were such a headache. It felt like

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Speaker 1: it was almost something in the Houston water that did it.

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Speaker 1: But they've they've got very respectable special teams units. Now

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Speaker 1: I did a training camp practice report after pretty much

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Speaker 1: it's presented by Xfinity. So Seth, as you know, I

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Speaker 1: I'm no longer getting COVID tested every day and going

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Speaker 1: I didn't come off that way, but I absolutely felt

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Speaker 1: I feel like you've taken yourself out of at least

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Speaker 1: few other ones, but that one you're reduced your chances.

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Speaker 1: I was able to, yes, say, every little incremental percent

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Speaker 1: so I did. I did, um I did reports after

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Speaker 1: nine bullet points. But once you go to ten practices

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Speaker 1: and you write about let's say eight of them, then

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Speaker 1: And and I guess, again, very unscientific, but I thought, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back through and see who got multiple

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Speaker 1: which these guys flashed good or bad at camp. So

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Speaker 1: I went through that exercise, and I certainly want to

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Speaker 1: get your your reaction to these and just how crucial

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Speaker 1: it is that maybe some of these guys play well

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Speaker 1: I with the with the positive ones. I have listed

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Speaker 1: the ones that have got three or more mentions from

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Speaker 1: me in my training camp. Positive mentions from me and

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Speaker 1: I didn't, I did. I did it in a notebook sheet.

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Speaker 1: You see that right there? Okay, yeah, did manual control

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Speaker 1: of that spiral notebook? You know you can't. Um. So,

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Speaker 1: So these are the ones that got three or more

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Number one, Deshaun Watson, the number countless.

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Speaker 1: Pay that man should bring that. You should give that

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Speaker 1: Here's Bill O'Brien on Deshaun Watson's performance at the scrimmage

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Speaker 1: the other night and um and throughout training camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was good. I thought he thought he did some

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Speaker 1: good things. He was in you know, he was put

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Speaker 1: third down. He was backed up in his own end.

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Speaker 1: I thought he handled it really well. He's had a

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Speaker 1: really good camp, and uh yeah, I thought, I thought, uh,

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Speaker 1: recurring theme during this exercise here as we go back

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Speaker 1: when I look at what he's being handed this year,

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Speaker 1: do you think the degree of difficulty is of what

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is being asked to do, especially early in

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Speaker 1: the season. Well, yeah, I guess the questions on defense

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Speaker 1: After that, I'm sean, I'm gonna do something here. Just

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Speaker 1: Isn't gonna be any kind of an MVP race. Put

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Speaker 1: the MVP discussion only in that that's how he needs

849
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: to play. I mean, this team, this team has so

850
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: many question marks, and I've gotten to the point where

851
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: I've I've talked myself into the receiving corps because I

852
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: was intrigued initially, right, Okay, obviously DeAndre Leaves. I was

853
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: emotionally and personally devastated by that. But when they started

854
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: adding the pieces together, I said, Okay, that's a whole

855
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: bunch of speed out there. And I've talked myself into

856
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: a lot of what can happen with all that speed

857
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: out there? But I just know, I know from experience,

858
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: whenever you have started attaching too many ifs to a

859
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: football team, you don't get all the ifs. So that's

860
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: where that's my little bit of trepidation. Still, Texans Training

861
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: Camp Special presented by Xfinity Steth Here are the other

862
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: players who got multiple three or more positive mentions in

863
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: my practice reports than I did. And as you bring

864
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: up the receiving core, you're gonna be happy to hear

865
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: some of these names. Four positive mentions for David Johnson,

866
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: Stevie Mitchell, Brandon Cooks, and Kenny Stills. So you got

867
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: three receivers in there, two of which I think are

868
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: core receivers. Stevie Mitchell will see if he makes a team.

869
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: Stevie Mitchell had a really good camp. I don't know

870
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: if he makes a team or not, or if he's

871
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: a practice squad guy. He's a guy who's been on

872
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: the fifty three at times over the last couple of years.

873
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: But I think of all those names there, the one

874
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm most excited of being in there with the positive

875
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: mentions is David Johnson because he's obviously a huge key

876
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: to this season. It's a big key, and I don't

877
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: think that it's not a surprise to me that David

878
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Johnson looked good in camp. I think these last couple

879
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: of years he's looked very athletic. I think when he's

880
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: you see him out in space, he's looked like probably

881
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: just as fast as he was in twenty sixteen. I

882
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: think there's been a certain element of physicality that hasn't

883
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: been there the last couple of years that was there

884
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and I think that's that's what we

885
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: won't really see until the Kansas City team and I

886
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: and Boy, there was an article in the Bleacher Report

887
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: that you and I both read a couple of weeks

888
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: ago that it was a very in depth article and

889
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: it sounded like David Johnson very much had a chip

890
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: on his shoulder. Yeah, you know, like it sounded like

891
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: he and Bill O'Brien really wanted to prove something that

892
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: I got excited about that because I think that I

893
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: think that David Johnson in twenty sixteen he ran like

894
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: he had a chip on his shoulder, And maybe it's

895
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: as simple as that. Yeah, it painted a picture of

896
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: a guy who's kind of ebbed and flowed when it

897
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: comes to that chip on his shoulder. Throughout his career.

898
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: He's a guy who has been doubted at many levels

899
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: of high school, college at Northern Iowa coming into the NFL.

900
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: But he's also a guy that either when he was

901
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: being recruited by colleges in high school or certainly the

902
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: last few years in the NFL, he's had people questioning

903
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: him the Texans might be getting him at the good

904
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: part of his EBB and flow here say they maybe

905
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: getting him on the upswing of what's been a normal

906
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: David Johnson arc. The players who got mentioned three times

907
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Nakens, Justin Reid, A. J. Moore, Duke Johnson, and

908
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: rookie John Reid, who has been sighted by many of

909
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: the coaches as the well not many of the guy

910
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: I think either O'Brien or Anthony Weaver I can't remember

911
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: which said that he might be having the best training

912
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: camp of any rookie on the team. They've all been

913
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: very impressed with his maturity and his professionalism and all

914
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: that he is twenty four years old. But I mean

915
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: it's there's there's plenty of immature twenty four year olds

916
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: out there. Johnny Manzel's gotta be like twenty six, right,

917
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: So I think that just I think that I think

918
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: we'll probably see him early and often, either in Nickel

919
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: or Dine packages. It seems like Bill at the very

920
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: least O'Brien probably thinks that he can put John Reid

921
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: out there and there's not gonna be mental errors. Or

922
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: busted assignments, and they'll probably want to start to get

923
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: a feel for Hey, can this kid actually be a

924
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: contributing factor. Yeah, here's where the ripple effect. The ripple

925
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: effect affects John Reid at the corner position, because this

926
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: is a good segue into some of the guys who

927
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: have not played as well as we're going back through

928
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: my training camp reports and finding mentions, multiple mentions of

929
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: guys either playing well or poorly and kind of putting

930
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: it into a scorecard format. Here the negative impression seth

931
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: multiple four four negative mentions of AJ McCarron, who I

932
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: just thought had a really bad training camp as a

933
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: backup quarterback for this team. Callie Wearing three negative mentions

934
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: aside from one day where he caught two touchdowns. It

935
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: was a really rough camp for Kallie Waring. The one

936
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about was Gary and Conley, and

937
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: Gary and Conley got a couple of negative reviews from

938
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: me and my training camp reviews, and in part because

939
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: he was banged up early in camp. He's done the

940
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: populist heading into camp, he gets taken off the puplist.

941
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: Then he misses a couple of practices since coming back.

942
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: He has been. He has been embedded with the twos

943
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: on defense. None of this. You know, some guys you

944
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: see move around A J. Moore is one of those guys,

945
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: got some reps with the ones. The other Conley has

946
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: been embedded with the twos. And here's where this maybe

947
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: affects John Reid and we'll hear from Bill O'Brien on

948
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: Conley in just a second. Here is that if Conley

949
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: can get on the field and Lonnie Johnson can get

950
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: on the field. But thought is those two guys play

951
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: outside and Bradley Roby plays the slot. If Conley can't

952
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: get on the field, Ben Robi's got to play outside,

953
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: and that opens up a spot at slot corner, which

954
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: Garry and Conley does not do. And John Reid was

955
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: doing a ton of in training camp. It could be

956
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: if this, If Conley is a guy who either starts

957
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: the season on ir or is just embedded as a

958
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: backup at this point, then it's gonna be John Reid

959
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: or Vernon Hargraves for that slot corner spot. The rookie

960
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: might get on the field early and often. Conley, I

961
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how bad his injury is

962
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: right now as he recovers from that offseason surgery. But

963
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: there was one play in some of the video, the

964
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: limited video that we were able to see from the

965
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: scrimmage the other night that the team put out. There

966
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: was a player that Gary Conley gave up a touchdown

967
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 1: and as he's running into the tunnel afterwards, it wasn't

968
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: like he was running into the tunnel dejected lee. It

969
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: was that you could tell he was having a hard

970
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: time decelerating. Yes, that's the telltale sign whatever you whatever

971
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: you want to know if a guy's injured or not,

972
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: watch when they try to decelerate, because that's like the

973
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: really that's a really uncomfortable, painful time. And there was

974
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: another play too, I want to say, where he gave

975
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: up a play on the sideline. He just looked as

976
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: he was trying to slow down. You could really tell

977
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: it was he was uncomfortable. It wasn't It wasn't the

978
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: classic like, oh I got beat let me fake an injury.

979
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: It was the it was just an actual genuine slowdown.

980
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: That's funny you say that, because I thought it was

981
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: Kenny Stills who beat him for the touchdown that you're

982
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: talking about. Seth and when the two of them were

983
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: running back to the sideline kind of next each other,

984
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: talking to each other whatever. I was watching Conley run

985
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: him like he's not run him well, Like he's he's

986
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,760
Speaker 1: not moving well right now. He's been out on the field,

987
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's been practicing the last week or so,

988
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: but he he was not moving very well coming back

989
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: out the sideline. The one person that I make an

990
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: exception for that is, uh, you're Julie Gurriel. Julie. Julie

991
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: always looks like he just sustained some kind of an

992
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: injury when he's running, like when he's slowing down. It's

993
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: just it's just the way he runs. Yet he beats

994
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: out double plays all the time. I know he's deceptively fast.

995
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: People think that like, oh, you guys just take their time,

996
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: like guy, he's the first baseman. They don't realize he

997
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: was like one of the best shortstops in Cuban history

998
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: back in the day. Yeah. Yeah, here's here's Bill O'Brien

999
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: on Gary and Conley. Yeah. I think he's working hard.

1000
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: I think he I think he's he's improved. Um, you know,

1001
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: I thought he made a couple of place tonight from

1002
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: what I could see standing behind the offense. Uh. You know,

1003
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: I think he's working hard to get better and better

1004
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: and get himself ready to go for the first game.

1005
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: You know, he started, like you said, he started on pup.

1006
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: He's come off a pup and it's it's a work

1007
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: in progress, but I think he's he's definitely improving, all right.

1008
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: So that's O'Brien. And as you and I, you and

1009
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 1: I kind of read into yesterday on painting Pendergas. Yesterday morning,

1010
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: we were we were kind of playing the body language

1011
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: game with that audio, you know, the audio body language

1012
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: game with Bill O'Brien and you both you and I

1013
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: read that as it's not the most glowing review of

1014
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: of of Gary and Conley. You know they when when

1015
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: he cites the hard work that's going in everything, but

1016
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: not really citing anything that's going on out there. Yeah,

1017
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: and he kay. So you know he doesn't want to

1018
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: do to show his hand when it comes to injuries.

1019
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: I guess he probably feels like he showed his hand

1020
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: a little too much. Let me ask you a question, sure,

1021
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Steve Mitchell, Yeah, you know it was It's not like

1022
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: those were just ada boys from the head coach or

1023
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: anything that was you noticing Stevie Mitchell in practice? Yeah,

1024
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: how is he flashing to here? Here's the thing with

1025
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: Stevie Mitchell is that he's he He's made a lot

1026
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: of plays seth um where once he gets the ball

1027
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: in his hands, he's he's pretty speedy, like a good

1028
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: catch and run kind of guy. What I've noticed with

1029
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: Stevie Mitchell is that he's had he's had trouble. He's

1030
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: had trouble um beating the better cornerbacks on the team

1031
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: getting open, you know what I mean. Like he's had

1032
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: trouble getting off of coverage, like against the backups. He

1033
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: flashes when he goes against Bradley Roby, when he goes

1034
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: against Lonnie Johnson. Then Dushan finds himself throwing into coverage

1035
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: when he's trying to get the ball to Stevie Mitchell.

1036
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's a mismatch between maybe his athleticism

1037
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: and his route running. We'd have to ask John Harris

1038
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: about that. But like you know, the route running, the

1039
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: guys that are super fast, but veteran guys aren't aren't

1040
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: burned or fooled by it. Sometimes that's just comes down

1041
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: to route run yeah, but uh yeah, so he's he's

1042
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: been very productive and he should be. He's He's been

1043
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: in there a ton, you know, with with Cooks and

1044
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: Fuller and co. You know, Cobb's practice a little more

1045
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: than Cooks and Fuller. Cooks and Fuller of practice hardly

1046
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: at all. Um Cooks didn't even suit up for the

1047
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: scrimmage on Thursday night, and Fuller only played the first half.

1048
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: There have been a ton of raps for um Stevie

1049
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Chad Hanson. So so Mitchell's had a ton

1050
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: of opportunity to This is only his third year, so

1051
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: maybe there's maybe he's shown enough that yeah, they like,

1052
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had him around before. It's just it's

1053
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: a this is a veteran wide receiving cord. It's gonna

1054
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: be tough to make the team as a wide receiver

1055
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: this year, especially when they have a fifth round draft

1056
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: pick and Isaiah Coulter fifth round draft pick, and they

1057
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: the return guy presumably is going to come from either

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Speaker 1: So Bill O'Brian at a press conference this morning, Seth,

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Speaker 1: every night they do a mock fifty three? Is how

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Speaker 1: I hear that? Well, that's always the goal as a

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Speaker 1: player too. You want to be one of the guys

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Speaker 1: who's the short part of the conversation, like they're like okay, yeah,

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01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: all right, like JJ, yeah, he's good, okay, and then

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Speaker 1: you move on. You want to be one of the

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Speaker 1: one word conversations. I remember Dan Riley, the strength coachuesday

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01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: have a meeting with Dom Capers every every week about

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Speaker 1: each player on the roster, and it was always you know,

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Speaker 1: Dan was always cool with me, and he'd always be like,

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: don't worry you were a one word conversation that loved me.

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Speaker 1: Dan was never gonna say a bad thing about me. Um.

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Speaker 1: But it is also when you'd go up to Caper's

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Speaker 1: office and Capers I can't remember Kubiak dida that Capers

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Speaker 1: always had a fifty three man depth chart on one

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Speaker 1: of his walls, you know, like his whole office was

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Speaker 1: one big white board. And every time I had to

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Speaker 1: go up to Caper's office for anything at all, I

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01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: would always like take a quick glance on my way

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: into this. I was still where I thought I should be.

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Speaker 1: So this wasn't like the meeting where which like dom

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01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: was cool as hell. But I could also totally see

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: him like forgetting that and just not not realizing that

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01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: that I might be when it was time to cut

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01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: me that all of a sudden, my number was off

1290
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: the board before he actually got to tell me. I

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01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: feel like if it were Coughlin Seth, he would have

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01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: left you up on that board so that he could

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01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: tell you to your face. And the way he would

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01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: tell you as he'd walk over to the white board

1295
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: and just extinguish your name, like ripping off exactly what

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Speaker 1: do you do? He would zone to my shoulders so

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Speaker 1: you can rip them off military ripping the crest off

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01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: the front of your your your sport coat. Absolutely. Um so.

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was an interesting answer from O'Brien

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01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: that they do that, you know, they go through that

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01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: each night and um and that they're you know, they're

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: thinking about the fifty three all the time. Seth. I

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01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: do go through that exercise once a week when I

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01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: write for the Houston Press. I do during training camp

1305
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: of fifty three man roster prediction and the having gone

1306
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: through the exercise. And again, I'm no general manager, but

1307
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: I you know, I think you don't have to be

1308
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: an NFL general manager to know who the obvious guys

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01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: are who are going to make this team. And I

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01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 1: think I usually typically there are about thirty five to

1311
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: forty spots anywhere in there, some years less, some years more.

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,720
Speaker 1: The better the team. It feels like the more spots

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01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: there are that are this way, that are spoken for,

1314
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are making the team. It's really

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01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: about a dozen or so guys or a dozen or

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01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: so spots that are that are up for grabs to

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01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: any degree, and even those there's there's a lot of

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01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: times there's a pretty heavy favorite it's hard to make

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01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster man if you're not a

1320
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: draft pick, if you're an undrafted guy, or you're a

1321
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: you're you're sort of a fringe guy or a streat

1322
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: guy they brought in. It's and this year it's got

1323
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: to be even harder with no game, you know, which

1324
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: is why what you always tell the young guys is, look, look,

1325
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: you're not in competition with the guys in your room.

1326
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: You're in competition with the entire league. That especially these

1327
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: guys that sometimes it's just a numbers game. You want

1328
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: to be sure that you put it up on film

1329
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: in the preseason that you get picked up if you

1330
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: get cut. That's what's so hard this year is that

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01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: these guys it's gotta be boy, it's I mean, that's

1332
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: gotta be blood sport in there, because now now you aren't.

1333
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: You don't you don't have thirty one other teams to

1334
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: which you can prove yourself. You really gotta make it.

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01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: Whether it's Steve Mitchell versus Chris Hanson versus Isaiah Coulter,

1336
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: you're kinda these are the only coaches you can prove

1337
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: yourself too. Other than you know, the one thing that

1338
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: could happen is that some of these coaches that have

1339
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: good relationships around the league. You know, Bill O'Brien's got

1340
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: a really good relationship with the Dolphins coaches and personnel's staff.

1341
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: You know, maybe a guy like Chad Hanson, if he

1342
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: gets caught, he calls them up and says like, hey,

1343
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: good dude, solid guy. I think there's something here if

1344
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: they like him. Like, there's a lot of that kind

1345
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: of kibbutzing going around. But other than that, these guys

1346
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: just they've got to prove it here and now they

1347
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: don't have any other opportunities necessarily. I don't think there's

1348
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot of spots on this roster that are up

1349
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,919
Speaker 1: for grabs now. I think there are some guys seth

1350
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: that that could wind up on injured reserve who might

1351
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: have been viewed as locks or at least intriguing roster

1352
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: possibilities early in training camp. I feel terrible for calling

1353
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: Gillaspia because he's just been walking around in a T

1354
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: shirt and shorts with a sleeve on his right knee

1355
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: since the first practice. He's walking okay, but he obviously

1356
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: can't get out and do anything yet football wise, or

1357
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,959
Speaker 1: else he would be out on the field and QT

1358
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,959
Speaker 1: has been hurt with a stress fracturey in his foot.

1359
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: He was back on the field today. Here was O'Brien

1360
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: this morning with an update on a couple of the

1361
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 1: injured guys. I think I think Collen's doing a lot better.

1362
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: He ran on the field and read some pretty good speeds,

1363
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't say he'd be out there today. Kiki.

1364
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: I think he's going to try to do some stuff today.

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01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: So Kiki and he was out there today. Now I

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01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 1: don't know how much he did because we're at the

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01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,640
Speaker 1: stage of practice where the media is only there for

1368
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: stretching and you know, for the very beginning of practice,

1369
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: not for the whole practice, So we don't know what

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Speaker 1: he did. O'Brien does meet with the media again tomorrow morning,

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01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: for what it's worth. But Gillespia Qt Hanson is now

1372
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: hurt because Lonnie Johnson tackled him in the scrimmage the

1373
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: other like Legit tackled him in the scrimmage other night.

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01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: Looked like he heard his shoulder. Dylan Cole's another one,

1375
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: seth who has been suited up for these practices but

1376
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: has not done really anything on the field. Yet so

1377
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: the injured this is a really interesting year because when

1378
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: you look at the back end of the roster, it's

1379
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: an expanded practice squad with super flexible rules, like you

1380
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 1: can have six veterans on the practice squad if you

1381
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: want to, and the injured reserve rules are really flexible

1382
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 1: this year too. You can bring bring guys back as

1383
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: many as you want to and the maximum or the

1384
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 1: minimum time they need to be on IR is only

1385
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: like three weeks. Yeah. The only constraint as far as

1386
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 1: I know with the injured reserve this year is just

1387
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: how many guys can you fit in the salary cap

1388
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 1: because the injured reserve still does count against app But

1389
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys, Boy, when it's we're

1390
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: gonna have record numbers of guys on injured reserves, it's

1391
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: really gonna be I mean, I don't I don't want

1392
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: to say teams are going to abuse this because it's

1393
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: a one off year, and this is kind of why

1394
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 1: it's designed this way. It's it's designed to be abused.

1395
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: It's designed and in a lot of ways, this is

1396
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: actually gonna help some of these guys that we're talking

1397
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: about that that maybe didn't get a chance to show

1398
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: it to another team. They might actually be better off

1399
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: because the Texans or the Patriots or somebody else might

1400
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 1: just side to put this guy on injured reserve with

1401
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: a tweaked ankle or something, and he'll make full salary

1402
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: instead of make a practice squad salary right until maybe

1403
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: it's time to bring him back. Um boy, Yeah, Sean,

1404
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,679
Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about that. I would I would

1405
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: venture that. I would venture the average team might start

1406
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: off with five, six, seven guys on injured reserve that

1407
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: might otherwise have normally been either a roster cut or something.

1408
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: Well they might have been. But I do think there'll

1409
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: be guys who are legitimately injured, you know what I mean? Like,

1410
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't think now. Maybe there will be some who aren't,

1411
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: and there will be teams to try to skirt it

1412
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: that way. But every guy that I just named is legitimate.

1413
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: They've been missing time at practice, you know what I mean.

1414
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: They're there are also there are also guys that maybe

1415
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: could have made the team except that they've got a

1416
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: six week injury and you don't want to carry that.

1417
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,880
Speaker 1: If you put him on injured reserve, it might be

1418
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: and you have to pay him the entire year. So

1419
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: what usually in those situations is you give the guy

1420
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: a settlement, so you'll you go to his agent and

1421
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 1: you say, okay, we'll give him six weeks salary. We're

1422
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: gonna cut him with a settlement, and off he goes.

1423
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: In these situations, I'd say, okay, you know what we

1424
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: can we can carry his salary for six weeks if

1425
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: there's a chance he's going to come back. Yeah. So

1426
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: some of the battles at the back end of the roster,

1427
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: like the starters I think are pretty much set in

1428
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: stone for this team, both offensively and defensively. Or guys

1429
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: that are viewed as starters, you know, they may start

1430
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 1: a nickel some game, you know what I mean. I

1431
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: think the third tight end with Jordan Thomas and Callie Wearing,

1432
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Thomas is making the team. I think

1433
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: it's it's more so what do they do with Khali Wearing?

1434
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,839
Speaker 1: Do they keep him on the fifty three. He's not injured.

1435
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: I mean he's been out of practice doing things. He

1436
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: just hasn't been doing them very well other than the

1437
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: one day where he caught the two touchdowns. So do

1438
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: they find some way to get him on injured reserve

1439
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: for a few weeks, so it pushes off that decision.

1440
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: Do they think do they think they can slip guys

1441
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: like him or Charlie Heck or Isaiah Coulter who has

1442
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: hardly gotten on the field at all in training camp too,

1443
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: Isaiah Coulter. Do they would teams be more likely to

1444
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: try to slide guys like that through waivers to put

1445
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: them on the practice squad seth where previous years they

1446
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: might not. Yeah, they're kind of just gonna have to

1447
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: do a triage on this stuff, right and figure out,

1448
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: all right, what are the chances somebody's gonna pick this

1449
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: guy up? Is he is? He? Was he sitting out there?

1450
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: You know? Jordan Jordan Thomas, for instance, has such crazy

1451
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: physical tools and skills, and I think he's shown enough

1452
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: in preseason games before and in his rookie year that

1453
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if he didn't get picked up. Plus,

1454
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 1: remember Sean, we were we were at that report from

1455
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: Ryan Talbot, that reporter who said that in Buffalo the

1456
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: scouts are really monitoring Twitter and beat reporters to try

1457
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: to figure out who might be a good waiver wire

1458
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: pick up. I started to tag the bills on all

1459
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: my tweets, just so Yeah, to try to help the

1460
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: Texans out with the potential trying to get that scouting

1461
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: career going that I've won. Yeah, but you'd also be

1462
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: screwing the Texans if, like say Jordan Thomas, they'd say

1463
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: they were trying to do that with Jordan Thomas, and

1464
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: he gets picked up because Brian Gaines been reading all

1465
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: the reports. That's another problem. Is Brian Gaines up there

1466
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: and he drafted Jordan. He did miss he did twenty eighteen.

1467
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: He drafted both of the Jordan's Thomas and Aigans. It's

1468
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: hard to keep track anymore. Shown it is? It is

1469
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Speaker 1: all right. It's Texans Training Camp Special presented by Exfinity.

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Speaker 1: We're in the midst of thirty two consecutive days of coverage.

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Speaker 1: He Seth Payne. I am Sean Pendergass. What does the

1472
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: rest of the ramp up look like for the Texans

1473
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 1: headache towards the start of the season and the challenge

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Speaker 1: why they had the scrimmage on Thursday night seven o'clock

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Speaker 1: going to resemble what it looks like in week two

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Speaker 1: What does the schedule look like for this week as

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Speaker 1: the Texans head too roster cutdowns later this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're going to continue. We're gonna do it

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Speaker 1: scrimmage will be We'll have another scrimmage similar to the

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Speaker 1: confusing with these Thursday night games. Usually how it goes

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Speaker 1: a normal like you have a normal Monday schedule and

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Speaker 1: then on Monday the week before, not this next week

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Speaker 1: a normal Wednesday. Monday's a normal Thursday. Yeah, it gets

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Speaker 1: super confusing. Yeah, well, nobody set but they have their

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Speaker 1: I think anything that makes the situation more variable, anything

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Speaker 1: O'Brien talked about that, the challenge of evaluating without preseason games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely challenging. I think every team's going through that though,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I think everybody's going through that. You

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Speaker 1: it's funny, like I'll give you an example, the TCU

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Speaker 1: kid that we brought in, Cordello wagu right when he

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Speaker 1: was in T shirts and shorts, it didn't look very good.

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Speaker 1: But then when we put the pads on and he

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Speaker 1: started practicing, it kind of looked pretty good, you know,

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Speaker 1: relative to where he is. You know, some of the

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Speaker 1: these guys, like when the pads go on or in

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Speaker 1: the past in preseason games, maybe they didn't look great

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Speaker 1: in practice, but all of a sudden in a game

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Speaker 1: they had a knack and making plays. They showed up

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Speaker 1: in a game. Well, you don't have that this year,

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01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: so you've got to go off of practice. And so

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Speaker 1: you know, we're we're trying to do that. We're putting

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Speaker 1: guys in position our guys are you know, we're trying

1701
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Speaker 1: to have high tempo practices where you know, we can

1702
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Speaker 1: really evaluate, and that's what we're doing. I think that's

1703
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Speaker 1: you know, that's the way we're approaching it. Cordell Owogu

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Speaker 1: is the name of the player from TCU that Bill

1705
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: O'Brien just said. He's a guard and he was an

1706
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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Seth. I want to ask you this

1707
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Speaker 1: because I know you've got other guys that you've played

1708
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Speaker 1: with and observed before that that that that's sort of

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Speaker 1: a phenomenon every year that there's just certain guys that

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01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: when the lights go on, they play a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you this though, specifically, if you're

1712
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Speaker 1: If you were a rookie and your head coach gave

1713
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Speaker 1: a sound bite like that about Seth Payne that he

1714
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Speaker 1: just gave about cordell O Wogu, how would you feel

1715
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Speaker 1: about your chances? I think cordell Ooggu probably knows it's

1716
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to make the fifty three, But what

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01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: would you feel about your chances maybe being kept around

1718
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Speaker 1: on the practice squad? Would you in other words, would

1719
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: you feel good about what you Scott said about you

1720
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: because it was like, man, you didn't look so good

1721
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Speaker 1: in T shirt and shorts? Or would you yeah, would

1722
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Speaker 1: you feel would you feel bad? Or would you feel

1723
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: good because he's like, nah, now it looks kind of good. No,

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01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: I'd feel really good because I'm like the known whatever

1725
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: his measurables were from the combine or pro days or whatever,

1726
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: he looks like. I don't know, maybe he's like talking

1727
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:24,719
Speaker 1: about his actual body. I don't know, like that's already

1728
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 1: known and he knew that that was an obstacle when

1729
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: you don't when you go undrafted for whatever reason, that's

1730
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: part of those things. And there are always it's that

1731
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: classic like, oh, come on, put me in, coach, you know,

1732
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 1: I just gotta I know, I could. I know, if

1733
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: you just let me play, coach, I could show you.

1734
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 1: It's the Uncle Rico effect. If they just want to

1735
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: put me in. Everybody feels like that, right, Everybody feels

1736
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: like they just need their chance. So I think that

1737
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: he is that guy though that every now and then

1738
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: those guys actually are really good when they get in

1739
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 1: they get a chance to play. So I would feel

1740
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: pretty good if I were a WAGU with it. At

1741
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 1: the very least, O'Brian is intrigued by me and probably

1742
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: wants to see how I do against, you know, in

1743
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: a normal preseason game or a normal year. So that's

1744
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 1: the kind of guy you want to keep around in

1745
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: the preseason. And I've told you this before, Sean. The

1746
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: opposite effect are the guys are the guys who look

1747
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: awesome in practice, especially like the mini camps and everything.

1748
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: If you've got some guy that runs a four or

1749
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: five forty ways two hundred and sixty five pounds, you

1750
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: look at him in mini camps and you're thinking, oh

1751
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: my gosh, this guy's gonna be All Pro every single year,

1752
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: and then you put the pads on and they disappear.

1753
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 1: There there was one guy, um who's a better player.

1754
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: He didn't disappear. But Dorian boost was here the first

1755
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,799
Speaker 1: year and he was a draft pick for the Jets

1756
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:36,840
Speaker 1: back when Parcels was the coach for the Jets. I

1757
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 1: think play he was a defensive end slash outside linebacker,

1758
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: and he was like in mini camp, he looked like

1759
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: he was gonna be an absolute game record. Just was

1760
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: just I've rarely seen people as athletic as him. The

1761
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: problem is when when it tame time to put the

1762
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 1: pads on, he just he didn't have it. You know

1763
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: the big line that they built Parcels once when Dorian

1764
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 1: Boosts was gonna have a chance to play. Dorian boost

1765
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Speaker 1: the quote was that he felt like a caged beast.

1766
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Speaker 1: And Parcels heard the quote and said, did he mean

1767
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Speaker 1: if caged canary? Because because that's how Parcels treated guys,

1768
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Speaker 1: the other guys. The other guy that would be like that,

1769
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: Trell Davis. Because Gary Kubiak told this story about one

1770
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Speaker 1: of my favorite coaches of all time, Richard Smith. As

1771
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: you know, um, this is actually a good Richard Smith story.

1772
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: I had despised him as a defensive coordinator. It's a

1773
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Speaker 1: it's a pox on this franchise's history that he was

1774
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for two years. But Richard Smith was

1775
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: the special teams coordinator in Denver when Terrell Davis Trelle

1776
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Speaker 1: Davis was a rookie and they came in from some

1777
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Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was a preseason game. It

1778
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,839
Speaker 1: must have been a preseason game. Kubiak was the offensive coordinator,

1779
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: and the offense had sucked, the defense had sucked. Everybody

1780
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 1: was like the team was getting its buck kicked. Shanahan

1781
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 1: was all poed except for Richard Smith, who the special

1782
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Speaker 1: team's coordinator. Came in with this huge smile on his

1783
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: face and like, what the hell are you so happy about?

1784
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 1: And he said, you just wait and see. They turned

1785
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: the film on that night after the preseason game, and

1786
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: Trell Davis was just all over the place. It was

1787
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: just a madman on special teams. Was just crushing people

1788
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: on kickoff, on punt team. You know there's a running

1789
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: back going out and tackling people. Yeah and uh. And

1790
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: that was kind of like he had his chance to

1791
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: show that and you know how hard it is to

1792
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Speaker 1: make it as a as an undrafted rookie free agent

1793
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: at times. That was where Terrell Davis first really showed

1794
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: up was on special teams. So you don't you don't necessarily, Yeah,

1795
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. Look, I think Terrell Davis is going

1796
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: to make it in the NFL, especially in that offensive scheme.

1797
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 1: But you never know. There's guys like that all the

1798
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: time that just make that big impression in a preseason game.

1799
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: What I just heard was Richard Smith discovered Terrell Davis

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Speaker 1: and he basically did That's what I say, if if

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Speaker 1: back in this zone blocking scheme. You'd be a man.

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Speaker 1: Sean Pendergasteth Paint with you here on Texans Radio on

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten. Just quick update on some news

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Speaker 1: going on around the league. And um, we know that

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Speaker 1: there were nine NFL teams on Thursday that chose not

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Speaker 1: to practice and participate in the in the ongoing protests

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Speaker 1: for social for racial equality, social justice. The Texans shows

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Speaker 1: to go through with their scrimmage, but they did have

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Speaker 1: a discussion after the game at midfield right there on

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Speaker 1: the logo. At midfield, the team basically gathered around, everybody

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Speaker 1: kind of got to one knee, gathered around and Kenny Stills,

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Speaker 1: Michael Thomas and JJ Watt all addressed the team. Um,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what the plan is going forward for

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Speaker 1: the Texans or the Chiefs or any of the teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL as far as Week one of the

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Speaker 1: NFL season goes. We know that that it has impacted

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Speaker 1: the schedule for both the NBA postseason and the MLB

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Speaker 1: regular season, including the Astros postponing their game last night

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Speaker 1: and the Rockets resuming their postseason later on today. Seattle

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks the latest team to cancel a practice as

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Speaker 1: part of this movement. Here was Bill O'Brien earlier today

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Speaker 1: when he was asked by John McClean about the possibility

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Speaker 1: of a protest involving the game in Week one against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We've had some good discussions. You know, I

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Speaker 1: would say anything's possible, you know, I think that just

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Speaker 1: speaking for the Houston Texans, really proud of these guys

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Speaker 1: that are on our team. We have a lot of

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Speaker 1: really good veteran guys that are really passionate about football,

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Speaker 1: really passionate about what's going on in the world. The

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Speaker 1: thing that the thing that really strikes me. You know,

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Speaker 1: as a coach, you're always in a rush, right you

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Speaker 1: want to like you're always in a rush. You want

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Speaker 1: to make sure everything's going well, and you're you're you're,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're thinking about the next day, the next play,

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Speaker 1: the next three plays from that. But these players, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're not in a rush. Our players, our players

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Speaker 1: are really thoughtful. They want to they want to think

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Speaker 1: about things. They they don't want to rush to make

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Speaker 1: any decisions on anything. It's just been has been really

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Speaker 1: enlightening for me. UM. Today in the squad meeting, we

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Speaker 1: we we um, we had a good squad meeting, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how it goes John, But you know,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to make any predictions. I just

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Speaker 1: know that our team's gonna practice today, and our team,

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Speaker 1: you know, we feel good about where we're at after

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Speaker 1: the scrimmage, and we're just gonna keep plugging away. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts that you do you think that we

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Speaker 1: see week one impacted by by this um, by this movement. UM,

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Speaker 1: I boy, at this point, it would be really really

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Speaker 1: hard to just either predict anything that's gonna happen here.

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Speaker 1: I think that I do think that the players, and

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Speaker 1: I would say players just professional athletes in general, have

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Speaker 1: really shown just how committed they are to this, and

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Speaker 1: I think maybe in a way where what they've hoped

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Speaker 1: over these last few days to do is to really

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Speaker 1: show the owners exactly how much they want and need

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Speaker 1: them on their side. And Michael Thomas talked about it

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Speaker 1: a little bit today about how boy I hate to

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Speaker 1: quote the musical Alexander Hamilton chun because damnit, I'm annoyed

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Speaker 1: with the people doing that all the time. But there's

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Speaker 1: something about being in the room where it happens. There's

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Speaker 1: something about being the influential people that are actually that

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Speaker 1: are actually there and get things done in government and politics.

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Speaker 1: And the fact of the matter is, in modern while

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Speaker 1: in politics forever wealthy influential, wealthy people are influential. And

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Speaker 1: I really feel that the owners have a chance to

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Speaker 1: step in on behalf of their players in a way

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Speaker 1: that they haven't before. And I think the players want

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Speaker 1: that to happen. They want they wanted to say, look,

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Speaker 1: you're our partners, be our partners in this. If we're

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Speaker 1: business partners, help us, help us affect change. That's better

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Speaker 1: for Houston, that's better for Kansas City, that's better on

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Speaker 1: the local and the state side of things, where you

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Speaker 1: can actually get, you know. I saw multiple times various athletes,

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Speaker 1: including Michael Thomas cock to talk about enacting change in

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Speaker 1: the laws, in the leg in the legislatures, all those things.

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Speaker 1: They're not just they don't. I if there's one. If

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Speaker 1: there's one argument I keep seeing that bothers me, it's

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Speaker 1: when people say that the players don't have any specific

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Speaker 1: or stated goals. I think they've gotten much. They've gotten

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Speaker 1: very specific um and a lot of its centers around

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Speaker 1: making local changes two laws, to create more recourse for

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Speaker 1: people who have been wronged, UM, to give people options

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Speaker 1: when tragedies do occur, and all of that, and they

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Speaker 1: just they want the owners on their side. I think.

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Speaker 1: I think as far as the Hunts go in Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: I think because as far as the McNair's go in Houston,

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Speaker 1: just for those two teams, I think that both those

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Speaker 1: ownership groups, I think they get it. I think they understand.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if that means that there's football

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Speaker 1: ten days from an hour or twelve days from now

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Speaker 1: or not, but I think that I think we're probably

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Speaker 1: just because the NFL has a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: head start on this and understanding exactly what the players

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Speaker 1: are saying, kind of getting time to deal with it

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Speaker 1: that maybe they can maybe maybe the two sides can

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Speaker 1: feel good about just going ahead and playing football. In

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Speaker 1: a way. Seth the NFL is benefiting from some of

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Speaker 1: what they've benefited, they've benefited from during the coronavirus, which

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Speaker 1: is they are the league. That is they're the league

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Speaker 1: that just their schedule lends itself to not getting blindsided.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think there was I think there was

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Speaker 1: a part of the NBA that got blindside. Hell, the

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Speaker 1: players themselves on other teams got kind of blindsided by

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Speaker 1: what the Bucks did the other day. That was apparently

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Speaker 1: a big talking point in that meeting among NBA players

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Speaker 1: that night. Was like, hey, Bucks, it would have been

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Speaker 1: nice if you could have told us if this is

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Speaker 1: what you were you were gonna do and then you

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Speaker 1: Ultimately those other teams followed through with it. But but

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Speaker 1: I think they wanted it to. I think the players

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Speaker 1: in the NBA wanted it to appear like we're all

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Speaker 1: more on the same page than it. Then it appeared

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Speaker 1: than it appeared that night. So so that blindsided a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, including some of the fellow players. Think

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Speaker 1: baseball same thing. I don't. I don't think football is

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Speaker 1: going to be blindsided by anything. Well and and you

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Speaker 1: know it's um and if I please, I'm not one

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Speaker 1: bit trying to speak for black people here anyting. Obviously, Um,

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Speaker 1: I haven't lived at or anything, but I would just

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Speaker 1: say from my from my perspective, and haven't been in

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Speaker 1: locker rooms and you know, playing in a sport that's

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Speaker 1: you know, just just mostly black guys some for a

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Speaker 1: long long time. I would say that I think there's

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Speaker 1: there's something that I've come to understand lately that I

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Speaker 1: didn't understand before. It's that so many black people in

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Speaker 1: America have to grow up just kind of accepting or

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Speaker 1: understanding that they're gonna have to carry themselves differently in

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Speaker 1: public places because they walk in and they're a suspect already.

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Speaker 1: Um and that and and and and it gets to

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Speaker 1: a point almost where it just becomes so ingrained that

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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily even think or challenge it. Like like

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Speaker 1: I think that I think it's like that for some people. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I think what what this generation is saying is

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01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 1: like screw that, we're not We're not We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: not challenge that anymore. And it's a very emotional thing, um,

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Speaker 1: And it's a very uh you know, it's a very

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Speaker 1: painful thing. And I don't think that it's as easy

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Speaker 1: as just or as simple as like, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're gonna proceed through step one and then step two

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Speaker 1: and then step three. So that's I get that part

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Speaker 1: of it. I think I get that part of it, um,

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Speaker 1: And I just that's the that's like I would say,

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Speaker 1: like sta my, like some of the conversations I've had

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Speaker 1: just even the last couple of years with with black

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Speaker 1: guys that I've known for two decades that I feel

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Speaker 1: guilty that I didn't really truly genuinely understand before was

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Speaker 1: just this this need to like have when you're a

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Speaker 1: young black man, you gotta have your you gotta have

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Speaker 1: your story straight wherever you go, wherever you whenever you

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Speaker 1: walk into a neighborhood, into an unfamiliar place or whatever,

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01:44:07,880 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: you gotta be sure you know, like that you can

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Speaker 1: explain why you're there, who you're there to see, because

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01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: somebody is going to question you invariably and inevitably. And

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Speaker 1: I'd like and when I try to put myself in

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Speaker 1: that situation, I get freaking angry, like and you know me, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I lash out quite frequently when I feel like I've

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Speaker 1: been treated unjustly. So it's like I get as somebody

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Speaker 1: who's myself is uh, you know, done things at times

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Speaker 1: without necessarily having a plan ahead of time. I think

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Speaker 1: that some people who are in really extremely emotional situations

2074
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: have done an incredible job of of actually forming a

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Speaker 1: plan and moving forward that plan. I think any stills

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01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 1: in Michael Toomas have done an incredible job with this team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's what we're hearing from Bill O'Brien

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Speaker 1: in that cut that we just we just played. Sean Pendergass,

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Speaker 1: Seth Pain with you. It's Texans Training Camp Special presented

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Speaker 1: by Exfinity, thirty two consecutive days of tech since coverage

2081
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 1: leading up to the season opener. Seth, It'll be the

2082
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Speaker 1: one year anniversary when you and I get back on

2083
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Speaker 1: the air on Monday together six am here on Sports

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Speaker 1: Radio six ten. It will be the one year anniversary

2085
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Speaker 1: of what I like to call swap meet Saturday last year.

2086
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Speaker 1: You remember, remember that Saturday last year where it felt

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Speaker 1: like the Texans were making a trade like every fifteen

2088
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Speaker 1: minutes for about for about six hour period, I was

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Speaker 1: at brunch with Landry Locker. Yeah, I just gonna have

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Speaker 1: a I was just having a nice, easy, relaxing prunch

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Speaker 1: and then I ended up finishing off two jugs and mimosas,

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Speaker 1: and you know, going on the air. Yeah, I had

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Speaker 1: to go to a radio show. Yeah, brilliant and analysis.

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Speaker 1: I'd ever given emergency show, but that was the day

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Speaker 1: for Texan fans, just to refresh. That was the day

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Speaker 1: that Bill O'Brien traded two traded two first round picks,

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Speaker 1: a second round pick, and a handful of other smaller

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Speaker 1: assets players and lower level draft picks for Kenny Stills

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Speaker 1: and Laramie Tunsel. He also traded Judevian Clowney for Jacob Martin,

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Speaker 1: this team as a special teams player at the very

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Speaker 1: least in a backup cornerback seth as we look back

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Speaker 1: a year ago at that date, is there any part

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Speaker 1: of that that you think Bill O'Brien wouldn't want to

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Speaker 1: do over on? Oh, I would like, you know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I think that with Clowney, it's really really hard to

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Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, what would Bill O'Brien have done if

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Speaker 1: he was the GM back in February of twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: because that really and I wonder if that was the

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Speaker 1: beginning of when whatever rift there was between Brian Gaine

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Speaker 1: and Bill O'Brien really started, because the best time to

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Speaker 1: trade Clowney would have been before the draft in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Reportedly there was a chance that the Texans would have

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a whole lot of rumor and speculation,

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Speaker 1: but I wonder if Bill O'Brien just was I wonder

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Speaker 1: if that was what contributed to it. So if I

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Speaker 1: can if we blame Brian Game for not getting the

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Speaker 1: right value for Clowney earlier on, then I'm okay with saying, like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, Bill O'Brien by that point, the horse

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Speaker 1: was out of the barn, and you got to figure

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Speaker 1: out and get whatever you can take at that point.

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Speaker 1: And then Clowney didn't have his best year after that obviously,

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Speaker 1: so that one, that one doesn't hurt as bad. I

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Speaker 1: still I still question the logic and the way it

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Speaker 1: was executed and everything, but at the very least either

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Speaker 1: by Lucker, because Bill O'Brien saw it happening that way,

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Speaker 1: that didn't turn out to be nearly as devastating as

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Speaker 1: it could have been. He said, I think the part

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Speaker 1: of the Clowney trade, yeah, I mean you lay out

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Speaker 1: the saga perfectly. Like the part of the Clowney Trade

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Speaker 1: I think O'Brien would like to do over is the

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Speaker 1: part that he probably didn't have full control of, which

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Speaker 1: was even putting the franchise tag on him in the

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Speaker 1: first place. Like I think Bill O'Brien had his brothers,

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Speaker 1: he never put the franchise tag on jadeveon Clowney certainly

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Speaker 1: would have let it get to the stage that it

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Speaker 1: had gotten to by the time Brian Gaine was gone.

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Speaker 1: But I think the part of the Clowney trade that

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Speaker 1: they actually ended up making, I know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people like man that's all you could get was

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Speaker 1: a third boy, you know, Jacob Martin and Borkibious mingo

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Speaker 1: who are they this? And now Jacob Martin wind up

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Speaker 1: might wind up being a pretty good player for this team.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. I think the part that I did I

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Speaker 1: find the most um frustrating or the head scratching was

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01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: paying half of his salary. Yeah that, I'm like, that

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Speaker 1: just feels like, yeah, that just feels like you're lighting

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Speaker 1: cigars with thousand dollars bills, you know what I mean? Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: seven million, here you go. Yeah, you know, and again,

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Speaker 1: in like in any specific situation, you don't know exactly

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Speaker 1: how it was all working out. That one my fear

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Speaker 1: at the time, and maybe my fear still was that

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Speaker 1: that was Bill O'Brien, the new GM perhaps maybe being

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Speaker 1: in a room, so to speak, with a bunch of

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Speaker 1: sharks where you know, like when you're at the car

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Speaker 1: dealership and you think you're the deal's almost done and

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Speaker 1: they say, oh, by the way, that's an extra two

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars that we have to tack on for this.

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Speaker 1: You say, fine, fine, whatever, I'll tell you know that

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Speaker 1: that's where I felt a little bit nervous about it,

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Speaker 1: but by guns, by guns, I think, um, the Tunsil trades.

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Speaker 1: Look then, I think, this is the first time I

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Speaker 1: felt good about this offensive line in five years. Right,

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Speaker 1: So what am I gonna say? I like what they have?

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Speaker 1: What they could they have better used that draft pick

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Speaker 1: on somebody that they didn't else have to pay a

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Speaker 1: bunch of money. Um sure, But a big key to

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Speaker 1: the Tunsil trade ultimately working out to where you, as

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Speaker 1: a Texan fan, or Bill O'Brien as a gm US

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Speaker 1: as people who cover the Texans, can look back and go,

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Speaker 1: you know what actually worked out really really good in

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Speaker 1: the end is if the Texans, the Texans have to

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Speaker 1: have a good year this year. They have to have

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Speaker 1: a good year this year, because then the pick will

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Speaker 1: be somewhere in the high twenties. If they're five and

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Speaker 1: eleven or six and ten this year, or like the

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Speaker 1: year they traded their first round pick to move up

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Speaker 1: and get to Sean. You know that that's different because

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Speaker 1: it's a quarterback. You do that again every day of

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Speaker 1: the week, you know, you knowing what the Shawan is now,

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Speaker 1: you'd trade three first round picks to move up and

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Speaker 1: get to Shaun Watson but this is an offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: and so it's a little different. If the Texans are

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Speaker 1: somewhere where they're picking, they would have been picking ninth,

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Speaker 1: let's say, you know, eighth or ninth something like that.

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Speaker 1: That's a big difference. Not all first round picks are

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Speaker 1: created equal, obviously, in the difference between a top ten

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Speaker 1: pick and a back of the first round pick is

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Speaker 1: a huge, huge difference. And the tough thing with I

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Speaker 1: don't those anytime you trade two first round picks or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, you know, it doesn't hurt you in

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Speaker 1: that first year after it, right, it's the cumulative effect

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Speaker 1: of using an extra first round pick or two first

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Speaker 1: round picks on a guy that you also have to

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Speaker 1: then give a twenty two million dollars year extension too.

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Speaker 1: That starts to take its toll over time. And do

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Speaker 1: you do it? How often are you doing stuff like that?

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Speaker 1: You can only get away with doing that, you know,

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Speaker 1: once in a blue moon, every now and then before

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Speaker 1: it catches up to you. And this is where I

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Speaker 1: think the real tests of a general manager or Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien is these next two years where you I don't

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Speaker 1: want to say they've painted themselves into a corner, but

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Speaker 1: they've got some tough situations between draft catapul and salary

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Speaker 1: cap that this is where the real work of a

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Speaker 1: GM begins. The AFC south of all the division seth.

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Speaker 1: I haven't gone and made the comparison, but I think

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Speaker 1: you'd have a hard time finding another division where the

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Speaker 1: teams in the division have sort of just adjusted on

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Speaker 1: the fly in the last year, like done major change

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Speaker 1: to their team or had major change thrust upon them

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Speaker 1: in the last year. And you know, not just the Texans,

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Speaker 1: but Luck retiring and now it's Philip Rivers. A year ago,

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Speaker 1: if someone said Andrew Luck's going to retire tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is going to be their quarterback next year,

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Speaker 1: you'd been like, wait, what, the Chargers just went twelve

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Speaker 1: and four last year? What are you talking about? The

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Speaker 1: Jags Boardle's gone, they bring fulls in fulls gone. Now

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Speaker 1: it's Minshew. And then the Titans go into this time

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Speaker 1: a year ago, Marcus Mariota was their starter. Well, the

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Speaker 1: Titans trading for Ryan Tannehill might have been the best

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Speaker 1: move of the year last Yes, that might have been worthy.

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Speaker 1: That might have been worthy of GM of the Year

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Speaker 1: for Robinson really, because I mean, I knew that was

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Speaker 1: a name that came up. We thought there was a

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Speaker 1: chance that Ryan Tannello would be starting at some point

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Speaker 1: that year, either because Mariota got injured yet again or

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Speaker 1: because Mariota just finally fizzled out. But nobody expect him

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Speaker 1: to be as good as he was, right right. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Tennessee Titans expect him to be good

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Speaker 1: as good as he was. I think the Titans expected

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Speaker 1: to trade for him, going you know what, this is

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Speaker 1: a guy that if Mariota either gets hurt or he stinks,

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Speaker 1: he can muck us through the season and we can

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Speaker 1: be respectable. As it turns out, he was statistically incredible

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Speaker 1: last year and he wound up being their franchise quarterback. Movie.

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Speaker 1: It was a smart move. I mean, it was a trade,

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Speaker 1: but Ryan Tannell had a lot of control over whether

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Speaker 1: or not he wanted to accept it, and that was

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Speaker 1: that was a really smart move by him to accept

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Speaker 1: that trade, no doubt, Seth. It was fun as always.

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Speaker 1: I will see you Monday morning at six am, antibodies

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Speaker 1: to you, my friend, I'll see you Monday. Enjoy like

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Speaker 1: scads and scads of baseball in basketball this year. Indeed, indeed,

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Speaker 1: that up. Okay, all right, I apologize to the FCC preemptively.

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Speaker 1: me in studio here for Texans Training Camp Special. Dirty,

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Speaker 1: What is happening? Man? That's a hell of a damn intro. Right, Yeah, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: come oh man, dude, we do the postgame show together.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get into mid season four myself. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: been too long since I've heard it. So that was great, man,

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Speaker 1: I priest know, it's great to be here. Man. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's training camps wrapped up and it's go time. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's we got the Kansas City Chiefs that you know

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Speaker 1: start you know, starting at the pipe in less than

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Speaker 1: two weeks. And and man, I don't know what else

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Speaker 1: you'd want if you're a Uston Texans fan, if you're

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Speaker 1: used in Texans player, coach, anybody involved, is extra days

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Speaker 1: to prepare for the Super Bowl champ from the year before. Man,

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Speaker 1: this is a hell of an opportunity for the Texas. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is. They've still got a few practices left. It's

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Speaker 1: the part that's wrapped up is the part that outside

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Speaker 1: human eyes are allowed to jo see. So they they

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Speaker 1: did practice today, They're gonna practice tomorrow, and they've got

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Speaker 1: I believe three more that they've got allotted to them

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Speaker 1: by by the union, maybe two more. I think it

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Speaker 1: was fourteen total. We were at number eleven today, So

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Speaker 1: they've got three more after today that they still got

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Speaker 1: between now and Thursday, which O'Brien said earlier today, Clint

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Speaker 1: is going to be is going to be the day

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Speaker 1: that the Texans do cutdowns. I think the league day

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Speaker 1: to do it is Saturday in the afternoon. But as

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Speaker 1: we know, the Texans and Chiefs have been doing everything

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Speaker 1: two or three days earlier than the rest of the league.

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Speaker 1: So O'Brien said, today, Thursday is the day that they're

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Speaker 1: gonna that they're gonna cut their roster down right now. Look,

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Speaker 1: you're somebody who's been through a few of these these

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Speaker 1: weeks at the end of training camp, where you're you know,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to make the team, you're trying to make

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Speaker 1: an impression. Put us in the shoes of somebody we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about guys who are on the bubble.

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Speaker 1: Put us in the shoes of a guy who's at

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Speaker 1: this point you're you're, you know, you're trying to make

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Speaker 1: a roster, maybe you've never made an NFL roster before,

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Speaker 1: and trying to do it in a in a preseason

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Speaker 1: where there's no games to go prove yourself, it's got

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Speaker 1: to be really anxiety inducing. For Yeah, I couldn't imagine

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Speaker 1: the no preseason game aspect of a Sean because that

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Speaker 1: was always the one thing I had that I could

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Speaker 1: hang my hat on. It wasn't walking in the door

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Speaker 1: and being six four obviously and having the biggest arm

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Speaker 1: in the building, or running a four three four four

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Speaker 1: forty or anything like that. The one thing that I

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Speaker 1: could bank on was getting an opportunity in a preseason game.

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Speaker 1: And my drives. What if I got three drives, I

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Speaker 1: needed all three of them to end in a kick.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was no turnovers. We needed a field goal,

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Speaker 1: we needed a touchdown, and we needed a punt. And

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Speaker 1: I was I was fortunate enough to get in the

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Speaker 1: game preseason games, and a lot of my drives, they

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Speaker 1: weren't pretty, there was nothing that would blow your mind.

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Speaker 1: But the coaching staff would sit in a meeting and go, well,

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Speaker 1: we got two field goals out of the two drives,

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Speaker 1: a sterner gut and and so I was able to

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Speaker 1: put a you know, a reel together in a four

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Speaker 1: game preseason span of drives that ended in points. These

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Speaker 1: guys don't get that, man. So so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how a guy like myself makes the

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Speaker 1: team and makes any noise whatsoever with an organization with

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Speaker 1: no preseason games. It's just hard for me to think

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Speaker 1: how a guy that his strengths are not the tangible

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Speaker 1: aspects of his of his skill, and how that guy

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Speaker 1: makes a living in the NFL. This is just a

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Speaker 1: tough year for those guys, man. It's it's a tough

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Speaker 1: year for those guys. And yet I feel like there

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Speaker 1: are going to be more quarterbacks who have paying jobs

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Speaker 1: this year, just because teams are going to be super

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Speaker 1: cautious when it comes to the COVID nineteen yeah, and

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Speaker 1: making sure they've at least got a guy on the

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02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 1: practice But like Alex McGoo is going to get a

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Speaker 1: paycheck from the Texans this year, Zerode, whether it's as

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Speaker 1: a third string quarterback on the fifty three, I tend

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02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:38,440
Speaker 1: to doubt it's that, but as a guy on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad who they might, you know, use one of

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Speaker 1: their four spots they can freeze, you can't touch this

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02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 1: guy each week kind of thing. So you're right, it's

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Speaker 1: a strange year. I think they're gonna be more players

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Speaker 1: that actually have paying jobs in the NFL this year

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Speaker 1: than ever before because the expanded practice squad. And yet

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be really hard for guys to to put

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Speaker 1: good film out there for anything going for like, eventually

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Speaker 1: these rules are going to go away, and now you're

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Speaker 1: competing with a whole other classic guys next year to

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Speaker 1: try to make impressions and things like that's just a

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Speaker 1: very strange. It's a crapshoot. Sean is really for players.

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Speaker 1: It's the guys that would typically, um, you know, be

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Speaker 1: a candidate for the practice squad. And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: guys like I was activated. I never spent one full

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Speaker 1: year on a practice squad. I was activated as the

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Speaker 1: starter got injured, or the second string wasn't ready, or

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason here and there. I was activated so

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Speaker 1: I was able to make a little bit of extra

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Speaker 1: money my rookie year being activated. I do I did.

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Speaker 1: I heard you guys talking earlier, and I do think

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Speaker 1: that the opportunity for a player, young players to be

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Speaker 1: employed in the NFL is greater in twenty twenty than

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Speaker 1: it's ever been before from a standpoint of the sixteen

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Speaker 1: man practice squad, the way that the different rules, the

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Speaker 1: way they've lacked some of the rules with the injured

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Speaker 1: reserve players. UM, I mean, there's there is an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for guys that have, you know, just some kind of

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Speaker 1: unique skill set, whether it's a quarterback that they trust,

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Speaker 1: or it's a receiver that's got size or alignment that

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Speaker 1: work with, the opportunity to be an NFL player in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I mean, I think has has grown when

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Speaker 1: typically up to this point we look at it as

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Speaker 1: as a negative. I think it's actually a positive. I

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Speaker 1: think there'll be more guys that wouldn't be pulling an

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02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:32,680
Speaker 1: NFL paycheck pulling a check this year. I get what

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Like you're not saying, let's say it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing this coronavirus showed up because now guys are

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Speaker 1: getting more jobs. No, but one of the byproducts of

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Speaker 1: it is there are more jobs out there for guys

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Speaker 1: this year. Old Brian has said it himself. He said,

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Speaker 1: we've got eighty guys in camp. Sixty nine of these

2494
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Speaker 1: guys are gonna be or you know, our roster is

2495
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 1: pretty much set. There's ten or eleven guys that we

2496
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 1: need to cut loose. We got to figure out a

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Speaker 1: summer on the fifty three or some are on the sixteen,

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02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:57,040
Speaker 1: and we've got to figure that that whole thing out.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious as someone you look you you've gotten reports

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Speaker 1: from me every day about training camp. This is one

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Speaker 1: of those years that is also unique in that there's

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Speaker 1: there haven't been many people that have have been allowed

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Speaker 1: to go to it. Through my reports and through some

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Speaker 1: of the reports you're getting from other people. I'm really

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Speaker 1: curious about this, Like what are the things, what are

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Speaker 1: the things you're most looking forward to seeing ultimately when

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Speaker 1: you're able to watch this team on television a week

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Speaker 1: from Thursday, Like what what what intrigues you the most

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Speaker 1: based on things that you're hearing anecdotally either from me

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Speaker 1: or other people, and what you know already about this team.

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Speaker 1: Far and away, the number one thing that I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing I'm most excited about is Anthony Weaver.

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Speaker 1: expect to see a really fun, aggressive defense to watch.

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Speaker 1: And I've heard I've read between the line with the players,

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Speaker 1: We've He's really smart, he's got a real good rapport

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Speaker 1: with the players. UM. You know, he's played in the league,

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Speaker 1: he's coached in the league. He's coached under some really

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Speaker 1: good UM defensive coordinators when he was a D line coached,

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Speaker 1: that's what he's trying to do. And uh, I think

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Speaker 1: he's doing a good job. He works really hard, UM,

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Speaker 1: communicates well with his staff. He's got a good staff

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Speaker 1: any other preseason? I take notes every preseason during practice

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Speaker 1: just kind of writing down, Okay, this guy was a

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Speaker 1: he probably would have had the sack if this were

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Speaker 1: a real game. And more than any other preseason that

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Speaker 1: I can remember, I was writing down the names of

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Speaker 1: defensive backs that were in the backfield, that were that

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Speaker 1: were sacking the quarterback, that were that were providing pressure,

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Speaker 1: that were doing disruptive things where normally you hadn't seen

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Speaker 1: defensive backs doing those things. Who knows, some of them

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Speaker 1: may be because they've got a really athletic group of

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Speaker 1: defensive maybe the most athletic group of defensive backs that

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Speaker 1: they've had since O'Brien got here. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they're the best group, but they're the most athletic group

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Speaker 1: probably um all, and it's probably a combination, but maybe

2583
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Speaker 1: this is the bigger deal. Anthony Weaver likes to do

2584
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Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff, you know, I think Anthony

2585
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Speaker 1: Weaver likes to do a lot of it. I think

2586
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Speaker 1: they are extremely deep in terms of players that can

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Speaker 1: actually contribute on Sunday afternoon. They're not just special teams

2588
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Speaker 1: players that boy, you really hold your breath. They have

2589
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Speaker 1: to get snaps on defense. I don't think that's the

2590
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Speaker 1: case in the secondary. So Anthony Weaver likes to do it.

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Speaker 1: I think they're deep at that position. And look, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I think the number one the first opponent out of

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Speaker 1: the Gates Kansas City Chiefs and in twenty twenty the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You need to be able to first and foremost defend

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Speaker 1: the pass. You need to be able to throw six

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Speaker 1: or seven defensive backs out there and defend the pass

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Speaker 1: at a high level. And if you if you happen

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Speaker 1: to have guys like Lonnie Johnson, if you happen to

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Speaker 1: you happen to have guys like that that are in

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Speaker 1: in you know, I cannot really. They're not starters at

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Speaker 1: corner or they're not starters at safety, but their skill

2604
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Speaker 1: set is built to play in and around the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage inside the box. They're physical players. Then those

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Speaker 1: guys in twenty twenty NFL are valuable players, and it

2607
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Speaker 1: wasn't the case. It hasn't always been the case. That's

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Speaker 1: the case today. And if you have those players, there's

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Speaker 1: just too many EA Sean, there's too many boxes that

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Speaker 1: there there are to check of reasons why this team should,

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Speaker 1: this defense should look different. They should be aggressive, they

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Speaker 1: should be creative. They I mean the writings on the wall,

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Speaker 1: from what you just said to players being DB's being

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look totally different. The team's equipped to look different,

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Speaker 1: I don't even think it's a there's a close second

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Speaker 1: to how excited I am in terms of seeing anthe

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Speaker 1: a big way is if if the defense gambles a

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2721
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:46,000
Speaker 1: the ball, throw it, Williams is wide open. Why are

2722
02:17:46,040 --> 02:17:48,440
Speaker 1: you doing this to me. Use that rocket arm. Come on,

2723
02:17:49,040 --> 02:17:50,959
Speaker 1: they don't listen to you. But if you went into

2724
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:53,640
Speaker 1: a Geico office and yelled, someone please help me save

2725
02:17:53,720 --> 02:17:56,480
Speaker 1: some money on car insurance, everyone would hop to it,

2726
02:17:56,800 --> 02:17:58,960
Speaker 1: except the intern because it's his first day and he

2727
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:02,520
Speaker 1: doesn't even have a computer yet. See better switch and

2728
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Speaker 1: save with Geico. It's almost better than sports. Tomorrow at two,

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Speaker 1: it's the Texans Preseason Special presented by Exfinity, with Wayne Smith,

2730
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Speaker 1: insight unlike anyone else can as our thirty two consecutive

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Speaker 1: six tenth The Texans play Here. It's back to football

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02:18:32,520 --> 02:18:35,840
Speaker 1: and you're back on the sideline at training camp with

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02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:42,000
Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Texans Training Camp Special presented by Exfinity. I'm

2736
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:45,840
Speaker 1: Sean Pendergast Clint Sterner alongside, and hear me in the

2737
02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:47,600
Speaker 1: mornings with Seth Payne. You can hear Clint in the

2738
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:50,480
Speaker 1: afternoons with Round the Show Hugli here during the week

2739
02:18:50,600 --> 02:18:53,160
Speaker 1: on Sports Radio six ten. And we are twelve days

2740
02:18:53,160 --> 02:18:54,920
Speaker 1: away from the start of the season, which means we're

2741
02:18:55,240 --> 02:18:57,800
Speaker 1: twelve days away from our first postgame show together, Clint,

2742
02:18:57,840 --> 02:18:59,680
Speaker 1: when normally you and I would have had a chance

2743
02:18:59,720 --> 02:19:04,080
Speaker 1: to stretch out our verbal hamstrings you four of them actually, um,

2744
02:19:04,280 --> 02:19:07,879
Speaker 1: but but no, no preseason games for us either. Yeah. Look,

2745
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:11,880
Speaker 1: the preseason game postgame shows were actually easier because you

2746
02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:15,400
Speaker 1: get you get so many different guys to look at, right,

2747
02:19:15,480 --> 02:19:17,280
Speaker 1: the young guys play in the second half, or the

2748
02:19:17,320 --> 02:19:19,640
Speaker 1: young guys play the last three quarters, so you and

2749
02:19:19,720 --> 02:19:21,640
Speaker 1: I can sit there and talk about talk about all

2750
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:24,200
Speaker 1: the different players. Now, it's it's it's real action that

2751
02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:25,840
Speaker 1: we just got to be thrown to the fire. Baby.

2752
02:19:25,959 --> 02:19:29,720
Speaker 1: That's all right, the h The only thing about the

2753
02:19:29,760 --> 02:19:32,119
Speaker 1: preseason games, You're right, I like the position battles are funny.

2754
02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:33,400
Speaker 1: We're about to talk about a few of them here.

2755
02:19:33,480 --> 02:19:35,400
Speaker 1: The only thing is it's really hard to get worked

2756
02:19:35,480 --> 02:19:37,240
Speaker 1: up about any of the decisions that get made in

2757
02:19:37,320 --> 02:19:39,480
Speaker 1: the game, Like, you know, like, can't believe a Brian

2758
02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:41,640
Speaker 1: did this on third and three? What's he thinking? What's

2759
02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 1: he thinking throwing a slant to fill in name of

2760
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:47,000
Speaker 1: undrafted wide receiver here on that play? Yeah, it's always

2761
02:19:47,080 --> 02:19:49,320
Speaker 1: good to have in your back pocket. Well, well, Clint

2762
02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:51,400
Speaker 1: Starner looked good in the fourth quarter on that drive.

2763
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:53,640
Speaker 1: That's true, d't in a touchdown you think he might

2764
02:19:53,720 --> 02:19:55,480
Speaker 1: make it. He might think he might squeak into the

2765
02:19:55,520 --> 02:19:57,760
Speaker 1: conversation of making this team. Would you have made the

2766
02:19:57,840 --> 02:20:00,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys if you didn't have preseason games to play in? Absolutely?

2767
02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:02,720
Speaker 1: That was your thing. I needed to do well and

2768
02:20:02,840 --> 02:20:05,360
Speaker 1: I needed Paul Justin was his name. He was a veteran.

2769
02:20:05,400 --> 02:20:09,119
Speaker 1: I remember him. Boy, Hey, you talk about looked like Tarzan.

2770
02:20:09,240 --> 02:20:10,959
Speaker 1: Now he walked through the door six four or six

2771
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:14,600
Speaker 1: to five, could throw it. Boy, he just completely melted

2772
02:20:14,840 --> 02:20:17,960
Speaker 1: under having to work with all of the backups in

2773
02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:21,680
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of preseason games. He just completely melted.

2774
02:20:22,280 --> 02:20:25,440
Speaker 1: And because of that, they said, well, we're gonna get

2775
02:20:25,560 --> 02:20:27,560
Speaker 1: him on out of here. And that created a spot

2776
02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:31,920
Speaker 1: for me to just quietly stick around. And then once

2777
02:20:31,959 --> 02:20:33,560
Speaker 1: that happened, I was able to get the opportunity after

2778
02:20:33,600 --> 02:20:37,920
Speaker 1: opportunity after opportunity to stick for a while and it

2779
02:20:38,040 --> 02:20:40,960
Speaker 1: worked out. But yeah, the preseason games, whether it was

2780
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:42,760
Speaker 1: me playing well or the guy that I was battling

2781
02:20:42,840 --> 02:20:45,640
Speaker 1: with not playing well, either way, I needed him. Yeah, yeah,

2782
02:20:45,640 --> 02:20:47,440
Speaker 1: I remember Paul. Yeah, Paul Justin the tray he was

2783
02:20:47,480 --> 02:20:49,240
Speaker 1: on that Rams team in nineteen ninety nine. He was

2784
02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:51,280
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner's back. He got he got a lot of clock,

2785
02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:53,640
Speaker 1: I believes in Indianapolis. I mean I think I think

2786
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:56,880
Speaker 1: ninety seven. Yeah, at one point they thought he may

2787
02:20:56,959 --> 02:20:58,560
Speaker 1: be the starter. He was that kind of guy. He

2788
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:01,560
Speaker 1: walked in the door. Now, he looked good. He was confident.

2789
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:05,080
Speaker 1: But boy, you talk about a guy that just crumbled

2790
02:21:05,240 --> 02:21:08,760
Speaker 1: under the pressure of not having you know, Joey Galloway

2791
02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:11,480
Speaker 1: and Rocket Ishmael and Jason Witton and Larry Outen in

2792
02:21:11,560 --> 02:21:13,040
Speaker 1: front of him. Yeah. I mean, because you get in

2793
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:15,120
Speaker 1: that huddle, man, and you're in a huddle with a

2794
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:16,880
Speaker 1: bunch of guys that you know aren't going to make

2795
02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:20,680
Speaker 1: the team. Um, and and it's it's a different animal.

2796
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:25,039
Speaker 1: And he just really crumbled under that, under that those circumstances,

2797
02:21:25,080 --> 02:21:26,880
Speaker 1: and that just happened to be where I did my

2798
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:30,280
Speaker 1: best work. That's really interesting. Um so I UM. I

2799
02:21:30,360 --> 02:21:32,520
Speaker 1: asked Bill O'Brien a question this morning in his press

2800
02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:37,320
Speaker 1: conference and basically not in these exact words, Clint, but

2801
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:40,200
Speaker 1: I said, hey, you know, um, Bill, the media, we

2802
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:43,160
Speaker 1: on this call a lot of us throughout training camp. Um,

2803
02:21:43,400 --> 02:21:45,960
Speaker 1: we liked to at various times during training camp, try

2804
02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:49,160
Speaker 1: to predict who the fifty three man roster would be

2805
02:21:49,160 --> 02:21:50,680
Speaker 1: if you had to play a game the next day.

2806
02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:52,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's a fun exercise. That did We

2807
02:21:52,440 --> 02:21:54,760
Speaker 1: do that on the radio And I essentially asked him

2808
02:21:54,760 --> 02:21:56,200
Speaker 1: if you do the same to you do the same thing.

2809
02:21:56,320 --> 02:21:58,000
Speaker 1: You know, do you guys, how do you look at

2810
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:00,520
Speaker 1: the fifty three man rosters? That's something thing that at

2811
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:03,840
Speaker 1: various points during training camp you stop, you pause, you go, okay,

2812
02:22:03,879 --> 02:22:06,320
Speaker 1: this would be our fifty three or is it something

2813
02:22:06,400 --> 02:22:09,520
Speaker 1: that comes more into focus this week when you're having

2814
02:22:09,560 --> 02:22:13,200
Speaker 1: to make those decision issues. Here's what he had to say. No,

2815
02:22:13,480 --> 02:22:15,760
Speaker 1: it definitely comes into focus sooner than this week. I

2816
02:22:15,840 --> 02:22:17,400
Speaker 1: mean we talk about it. I mean, it doesn't come

2817
02:22:17,440 --> 02:22:19,680
Speaker 1: into focus right after the first day. You know, it's

2818
02:22:19,720 --> 02:22:22,240
Speaker 1: got to play out a little bit. But I would

2819
02:22:22,280 --> 02:22:26,680
Speaker 1: say last week we started talking about relative to myself

2820
02:22:26,760 --> 02:22:28,920
Speaker 1: and Jack and Matt and then the coordinators, you know,

2821
02:22:29,240 --> 02:22:31,400
Speaker 1: just hey, this is how we see it right now.

2822
02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:33,480
Speaker 1: But then you know, then you go out and the

2823
02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:36,320
Speaker 1: next day, you know, somebody you know has a good

2824
02:22:36,400 --> 02:22:38,000
Speaker 1: day at a certain position and you're like, well, you

2825
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:40,360
Speaker 1: know you could do this, and you know, some of

2826
02:22:40,400 --> 02:22:42,280
Speaker 1: the questions that you ask yourself, Hey, does this guy

2827
02:22:42,320 --> 02:22:46,240
Speaker 1: have practice squad eligibility? You know, where is this guy contractually?

2828
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:49,800
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot that goes into those decisions.

2829
02:22:49,879 --> 02:22:52,600
Speaker 1: You're trying to You're not trying to necessarily pick an

2830
02:22:52,640 --> 02:22:54,720
Speaker 1: all star fifty three. You're trying to pick the best

2831
02:22:54,760 --> 02:22:57,240
Speaker 1: fifty three. What is the best fifty three? Obviously it

2832
02:22:57,360 --> 02:23:01,720
Speaker 1: changes during the year based on injuries or roster moves

2833
02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:03,880
Speaker 1: that you may decide to make, but no, we we

2834
02:23:04,400 --> 02:23:06,760
Speaker 1: have that. That's probably the last thing we do every

2835
02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:09,560
Speaker 1: night before we leave, as we go through, Okay, each

2836
02:23:09,640 --> 02:23:11,440
Speaker 1: guy on the roster, and how does that guy fit

2837
02:23:11,560 --> 02:23:16,920
Speaker 1: relative to fifty three game day game day roster? And

2838
02:23:17,560 --> 02:23:19,520
Speaker 1: then practice one. You know, we kind of kind of

2839
02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:21,560
Speaker 1: look at it that way. Every night. I'm just picturing

2840
02:23:21,680 --> 02:23:24,920
Speaker 1: like tiles that slide into slots on a whiteboard, and

2841
02:23:25,040 --> 02:23:27,680
Speaker 1: each of the tiles has the name the picture, you know,

2842
02:23:27,760 --> 02:23:29,960
Speaker 1: the headshot from the media guy with the guy smiling

2843
02:23:30,520 --> 02:23:32,959
Speaker 1: right underneath it in a smaller font is their salary

2844
02:23:33,080 --> 02:23:35,960
Speaker 1: cap hit, you know, and stuff like that. And somewhere

2845
02:23:35,959 --> 02:23:37,760
Speaker 1: there's a spreadsheet that keeps track of all this. When

2846
02:23:37,800 --> 02:23:40,640
Speaker 1: you decide to move guys around. But he basically said,

2847
02:23:40,800 --> 02:23:42,840
Speaker 1: we do it every night. Man. We we sit down

2848
02:23:42,920 --> 02:23:44,840
Speaker 1: and we go, Okay, this will be our roster, right. Yeah.

2849
02:23:44,879 --> 02:23:47,520
Speaker 1: What do you think, Sean, what do you think the

2850
02:23:47,680 --> 02:23:52,480
Speaker 1: number is of players that are truly the number of

2851
02:23:52,600 --> 02:23:54,880
Speaker 1: spots that players are vying for? I mean, I bet

2852
02:23:54,959 --> 02:23:58,240
Speaker 1: it's I bet it's eight. I can tell you exactly

2853
02:23:58,280 --> 02:24:00,600
Speaker 1: what I think it is, because I did fifty three

2854
02:24:00,640 --> 02:24:05,760
Speaker 1: man roster prediction Friday. More pretty close, um, and actually

2855
02:24:05,840 --> 02:24:08,200
Speaker 1: closer than I'm than I'm letting on probably. I I

2856
02:24:08,400 --> 02:24:10,600
Speaker 1: the way when I do a fifty three man roster prediction,

2857
02:24:11,200 --> 02:24:13,160
Speaker 1: I first the first thing I do is put the

2858
02:24:13,240 --> 02:24:16,080
Speaker 1: locks down right at each position, like here the locks

2859
02:24:16,120 --> 02:24:18,200
Speaker 1: at quarterback, running back, so on and so forth, through

2860
02:24:18,240 --> 02:24:23,000
Speaker 1: all ten position groups plus specialists. And usually that number

2861
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:25,840
Speaker 1: will be like the locks like these guys are one

2862
02:24:26,600 --> 02:24:29,360
Speaker 1: making the team. It's usually somewhere between thirty five and

2863
02:24:29,480 --> 02:24:32,240
Speaker 1: forty that are stone cold locks. And then I just

2864
02:24:32,320 --> 02:24:33,880
Speaker 1: start to fill it in after that. And to be

2865
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:36,640
Speaker 1: honest with you, you know, so there were forty I

2866
02:24:36,680 --> 02:24:38,600
Speaker 1: think there were like forty one or forty two this

2867
02:24:38,720 --> 02:24:41,240
Speaker 1: time around, of just locks. So that leaves ten or

2868
02:24:41,240 --> 02:24:43,640
Speaker 1: eleven spots left over, so you're pretty close. And actually

2869
02:24:43,680 --> 02:24:46,240
Speaker 1: you're even closer because when you start to go through,

2870
02:24:46,280 --> 02:24:47,920
Speaker 1: you go, Okay, I don't know if this guy's a lock,

2871
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:50,080
Speaker 1: but he's probably making the shoot and that kind of thing.

2872
02:24:50,280 --> 02:24:52,560
Speaker 1: As far as spots that are truly up for grabs,

2873
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:55,200
Speaker 1: you know where it's it's fifty fifty between this guy

2874
02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:57,840
Speaker 1: or that guy, or it's it's it's this guy or

2875
02:24:57,920 --> 02:24:59,840
Speaker 1: this guy or this guy for that spot like that,

2876
02:25:00,280 --> 02:25:02,360
Speaker 1: the last defensive line spot, right, we know who five

2877
02:25:02,400 --> 02:25:04,440
Speaker 1: of them are gonna be. Five of them are gonna be,

2878
02:25:05,040 --> 02:25:10,880
Speaker 1: um what done? Blacks and a Menahue and and Blacklock?

2879
02:25:11,120 --> 02:25:13,959
Speaker 1: Those are five. They usually take six. Who's the six

2880
02:25:14,040 --> 02:25:16,480
Speaker 1: one gonna be? Well, it's either Carlos Watkins or it's

2881
02:25:16,640 --> 02:25:20,480
Speaker 1: Albert Huggins, or it maybe PJ. Hall does something this

2882
02:25:20,640 --> 02:25:23,480
Speaker 1: last week, so it's one of those three guys. I

2883
02:25:23,560 --> 02:25:26,199
Speaker 1: think as far as battles like that go, it's there's

2884
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:28,720
Speaker 1: probably like five or six battles like that going on

2885
02:25:28,879 --> 02:25:30,600
Speaker 1: with this team for back end of the roster. But

2886
02:25:30,720 --> 02:25:33,160
Speaker 1: eight spots is a pretty good estimate. And if your

2887
02:25:33,200 --> 02:25:35,279
Speaker 1: overall point is a lot of the stuff is already

2888
02:25:35,720 --> 02:25:37,680
Speaker 1: like it's not nearly as up in the air as

2889
02:25:37,720 --> 02:25:40,320
Speaker 1: you would think heading into Thursday, Like, this thing's pretty well,

2890
02:25:40,560 --> 02:25:42,720
Speaker 1: pretty well stocked up. I think you're right. Yeah, I mean,

2891
02:25:42,800 --> 02:25:45,240
Speaker 1: I just I picture it being like a draft war

2892
02:25:45,360 --> 02:25:48,720
Speaker 1: room where where you've got they've they've done the same

2893
02:25:48,800 --> 02:25:50,880
Speaker 1: thing you've done. If these guys are locks, we can't

2894
02:25:50,879 --> 02:25:56,240
Speaker 1: afford to not have these forty two or forty three guys. Now, boom,

2895
02:25:56,360 --> 02:26:00,160
Speaker 1: here's eight to ten slots of today. If if we

2896
02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:02,680
Speaker 1: had to cut today, what would it look like? Um?

2897
02:26:02,760 --> 02:26:05,120
Speaker 1: And a lot of those are dictated by position battles

2898
02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:07,080
Speaker 1: like Jordan Thomas and Kholly Wearing. I don't know what

2899
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:08,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with those two guys, but the tight

2900
02:26:08,760 --> 02:26:11,200
Speaker 1: end position, I would I would be blown away if

2901
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:13,920
Speaker 1: there was more than three guys on the roster, maybe

2902
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:18,160
Speaker 1: maybe even two given the receiver situation right now. Um.

2903
02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:20,400
Speaker 1: But but they've got all of that figured out. I

2904
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:23,600
Speaker 1: just I would think that most of the fifty three

2905
02:26:23,680 --> 02:26:28,000
Speaker 1: man roster decisions are damn near decided at this point,

2906
02:26:28,120 --> 02:26:31,440
Speaker 1: now being twenty twenty, with all the COVID nineteen stuff.

2907
02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:36,000
Speaker 1: This is where it gets tricky. Sixteen practice squad players

2908
02:26:36,400 --> 02:26:38,160
Speaker 1: do you do you try to slide a couple of

2909
02:26:38,240 --> 02:26:42,800
Speaker 1: guys by that twenty four hour waiver window, and you

2910
02:26:42,879 --> 02:26:44,480
Speaker 1: know who do you think you could do that with

2911
02:26:44,840 --> 02:26:47,640
Speaker 1: the The injured reserved is different this year is injured

2912
02:26:47,680 --> 02:26:49,920
Speaker 1: list r injured reserve, say injured reserve. No injured list

2913
02:26:50,040 --> 02:26:51,920
Speaker 1: is base where you can bring them injured reserve. You

2914
02:26:51,959 --> 02:26:54,760
Speaker 1: can bring them back early earlier. Now then you you

2915
02:26:54,840 --> 02:26:56,480
Speaker 1: can you have to wait eight weeks. You only have

2916
02:26:56,520 --> 02:26:58,560
Speaker 1: to wait three now. And I believe it's unlimited. I

2917
02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:00,200
Speaker 1: think you you know, I think it's it's it's a

2918
02:27:00,360 --> 02:27:06,280
Speaker 1: very very fluid year for your roster construction throughout the season. Yeah.

2919
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:08,360
Speaker 1: So if there, if there are you know, eight to

2920
02:27:08,480 --> 02:27:11,480
Speaker 1: ten slots that are that are the decision still needs

2921
02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:15,800
Speaker 1: to be made. Man, there's another twenty decisions below that

2922
02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:18,000
Speaker 1: that need to be made of how you handle the

2923
02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:20,960
Speaker 1: practice squad or how you handle the injured reserved, and

2924
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:23,280
Speaker 1: and how do you want to bring players on and

2925
02:27:23,360 --> 02:27:26,039
Speaker 1: off that injured reserve. It's it's gonna be interesting, it's

2926
02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna be tricky to see how Bill O'Brien handles it. Yeah,

2927
02:27:29,080 --> 02:27:31,400
Speaker 1: there you just have It's kind of a good thing

2928
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Speaker 1: if you're a head coach, you have a lot more

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Speaker 1: tools available to you to keep guys around if you

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Speaker 1: want to keep them around. You know, the the big

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Speaker 1: talk has been with the backup slot receiver and the

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Speaker 1: kick returner. Thing has been with DeAndre Carter and keiki

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Speaker 1: Q two and Qt I think has the higher ceiling

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Speaker 1: as a football player, but DeAndre Carter has had the

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Speaker 1: better camp in large part because he's been available. Keiki

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Speaker 1: Qt just got back on the practice field today. He

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Speaker 1: had missed like a week and a half a practice

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Speaker 1: with a foot injury. He was back out there today,

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Speaker 1: so that's good for him. And he was having a

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Speaker 1: good camp to that point. The first four practices are

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Speaker 1: so off camp. He was out there a lot and

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Speaker 1: he was making plays. But could you say, you know, look, Key,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep you around, but let's put you on the

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Speaker 1: injured reserve with that foot. Let's make sure you don't

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Speaker 1: hurt that foot too bad to start the year. And

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Speaker 1: then at the very end you keep Carter obviously, yes,

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Speaker 1: and then you're at least you're doing two things. One

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Speaker 1: at the very least, you're delaying the decision. You know,

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Speaker 1: this buys us a few more weeks. So we got

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Speaker 1: to figure out what to do or be what if

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Speaker 1: something happens to Carter boy, you sure will be glad

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Speaker 1: that you kept QT around on the injured reserve. Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt. There's just some some really tricky ways

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Speaker 1: to use these new rules and bend the new rules,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, to really be beneficial to an organization,

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Speaker 1: whether it's an injury situation or it's just a guy

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Speaker 1: that you want to see work a little bit more. Now,

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Speaker 1: I do think it'll be interesting, and I believe it

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Speaker 1: it'll get really there'll be a lot of activity with

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Speaker 1: that waiver window for the practice squad. I think that's

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Speaker 1: where teams can really win. The teams that have scouted

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Speaker 1: guys better than the others, which I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that what that means in this COVID nineteam where guys

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Speaker 1: can't travel. But but boy, the guys that have done

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Speaker 1: the their due diligence and no players a little bit

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Speaker 1: more and can catch teams trying to get get players

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Speaker 1: to slip through that waiver window and grab some talent

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Speaker 1: that that would be fun to be a fly on

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Speaker 1: the wall and watch. Here's what I think will be

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Speaker 1: interesting when it comes to the waiver process. And again

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Speaker 1: for those who don't know, because I think people think like, well,

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Speaker 1: you just pick your fifty three and then you put

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Speaker 1: your next sixteen on the practice squad. No, those players

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Speaker 1: you put on the practice squad have to pass through

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Speaker 1: waivers to cut them. For twenty four got to cut

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Speaker 1: them and other teams get a crack at them in

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Speaker 1: whatever order the waivers are. You know, it begins with

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati and it goes all the way to Kansas City

2979
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Speaker 1: one through thirty two. So I think what will be

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Speaker 1: interesting because I could see the Texans maybe trying to

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Speaker 1: slip like Isaiah Coulter or Charlie Heck through there this

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Speaker 1: year where they may not have in previous years. I'd

2983
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Speaker 1: be risky, brother, It's gonna be risky. But you know, look,

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Speaker 1: there's only fifty three spots. You know, and and and

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Speaker 1: so and Charlie Heck looks pretty overwhelmed right now. You know,

2986
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Speaker 1: so um and Culture hasn't practiced. He's practiced like twice.

2987
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Speaker 1: He's been injured the whole time. So I wonder this.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if teams because there's no preseason film on

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Speaker 1: any of these guys. There's no games to go throw

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Speaker 1: the film on and say this is what they look like.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if teams are going to rely on their

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Speaker 1: scouting reports from college and look at some of these

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Speaker 1: rookies that are getting pushed through the waiver process as

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Speaker 1: almost like a free role in the draft, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we we wanted to draft this guy, Sean, that's the guy.

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Speaker 1: The two guys you mentioned are precisely what I was

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Speaker 1: talking about. If somebody, if the Texans try to slide

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Speaker 1: who you think someone's taking? Oh they no doubt, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't see how they got to put him on

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Speaker 1: the fifty three though. You can't just pick him up

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Speaker 1: and throw them on the practice Well yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I understand that you could put him in the fifty

3004
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Speaker 1: three or or you figure out a way to hour.

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Speaker 1: I'm like you did like you did with Hollie Wearing

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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. If a

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Speaker 1: team picks them up on waivers, they've got to put

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Speaker 1: them on the Yeah, but those are two guys that

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Speaker 1: that I mean. I think that the Texans have to

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Speaker 1: decide whether they wouldn't put them on the roster, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: So if they tried to slip them through waivers, there's

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Speaker 1: definitely other teams out there going, well, hell, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's yeah, we'll consider putting them on the rosters. If

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Speaker 1: you're a rebuilding team, you know what I mean, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you can you get a good young player. Mean, what

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Speaker 1: was he a fifth, fourth, fourth round? Yeah, Sean, there's

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Speaker 1: that would be super risky of the Texans to do.

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Speaker 1: You can be interesting, man, it's a different kind of year.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be very very interesting. It brings up a

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Speaker 1: cool point because there's so many everybody's got to do it,

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Speaker 1: so there's there's an opportunity to to to to grab

3022
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Speaker 1: a couple of players under the radar like that as well.

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Speaker 1: like a free role on a guy that they had

3136
02:38:11,720 --> 02:38:13,560
Speaker 1: a high draft grade on and that's all they have

3137
02:38:13,640 --> 02:38:15,920
Speaker 1: on them because there's no film on these guys. Well,

3138
02:38:16,040 --> 02:38:18,000
Speaker 1: the hard part with that is, how do you know

3139
02:38:18,080 --> 02:38:20,240
Speaker 1: you have a high great on a guy because you

3140
02:38:20,320 --> 02:38:22,040
Speaker 1: didn't see him out of prote You didn't get a

3141
02:38:22,120 --> 02:38:25,480
Speaker 1: chance to even see him physically. It's true, maybe maybe

3142
02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:27,160
Speaker 1: you saw him at the combine, you know, One of

3143
02:38:27,200 --> 02:38:31,039
Speaker 1: the things about Ross Blacklock being drafted in the second

3144
02:38:31,120 --> 02:38:33,400
Speaker 1: round for the Texans was they actually had a workout

3145
02:38:33,400 --> 02:38:36,680
Speaker 1: with him before the COVID restrictions hit, so in the building,

3146
02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:39,360
Speaker 1: a private workout, so he came back from the combine,

3147
02:38:39,480 --> 02:38:41,959
Speaker 1: did the probably workout, and then COVID hits, they had

3148
02:38:41,959 --> 02:38:43,720
Speaker 1: a chance to do that workout with him. You know,

3149
02:38:43,800 --> 02:38:47,080
Speaker 1: it's a really it's kind of a weird situation because

3150
02:38:47,480 --> 02:38:50,560
Speaker 1: a lot of times you've seen guys in enjoy practices

3151
02:38:50,800 --> 02:38:53,240
Speaker 1: or you've seen them in a preseason game. You know,

3152
02:38:53,320 --> 02:38:56,800
Speaker 1: with two joint practice sessions and then four games, you

3153
02:38:56,879 --> 02:39:00,320
Speaker 1: have plenty of opportunity to see other players play. And oh,

3154
02:39:00,360 --> 02:39:03,960
Speaker 1: by the way, every other game you could watch, you

3155
02:39:04,080 --> 02:39:06,720
Speaker 1: got the film on basically, so your pro scouts were

3156
02:39:06,760 --> 02:39:09,000
Speaker 1: at work looking at other players you're gonna pick up.

3157
02:39:09,040 --> 02:39:12,400
Speaker 1: And if you think about the Texans scouring the waiver wire,

3158
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I've heard this entire weekend. You know,

3159
02:39:15,879 --> 02:39:17,800
Speaker 1: we've been talking about all camp about how good a J.

3160
02:39:18,000 --> 02:39:20,080
Speaker 1: Moore has been all camp, and the other night he

3161
02:39:20,120 --> 02:39:21,640
Speaker 1: just blows up and I was like a J Moore,

3162
02:39:21,840 --> 02:39:23,600
Speaker 1: J Moore and it's like a J Moore. We picked

3163
02:39:23,680 --> 02:39:26,400
Speaker 1: up off waivers that whole process. You know, he did

3164
02:39:26,480 --> 02:39:28,920
Speaker 1: pretty well for I think it was the Patriots he

3165
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:31,520
Speaker 1: was really like him remembers the Patriots Dolphins, either one,

3166
02:39:31,840 --> 02:39:34,039
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but either way, they were really impressed

3167
02:39:34,040 --> 02:39:37,440
Speaker 1: with him, brought him in and he's been a specialist

3168
02:39:37,480 --> 02:39:40,760
Speaker 1: team stud and now is turning into his third year

3169
02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:42,640
Speaker 1: where he could be a guy that could find some

3170
02:39:42,760 --> 02:39:45,320
Speaker 1: time on the field, playing safety, playing defensive back for

3171
02:39:45,360 --> 02:39:47,920
Speaker 1: this team, playing defense a lot more than he's been

3172
02:39:48,400 --> 02:39:50,520
Speaker 1: in the past. So that's the thing to me is

3173
02:39:51,640 --> 02:39:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that you're gonna have guys banging the

3174
02:39:54,320 --> 02:39:56,440
Speaker 1: table for this guy, going hey, look look we went

3175
02:39:56,440 --> 02:39:58,480
Speaker 1: and saw his pro day. He's athletically a whole lot

3176
02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:03,240
Speaker 1: more gifted and beyond just the the athletic traits. It is, Hey,

3177
02:40:03,320 --> 02:40:05,360
Speaker 1: we sat down with this guy. He's not a flake.

3178
02:40:05,840 --> 02:40:08,040
Speaker 1: You know, he would fit our locker room. You know,

3179
02:40:08,160 --> 02:40:10,160
Speaker 1: he's not kind of a you know, goofy off the

3180
02:40:10,200 --> 02:40:12,720
Speaker 1: wall guy. He takes football seriously. You know, ball is

3181
02:40:12,879 --> 02:40:16,120
Speaker 1: very important to him. And those are guys that Texas

3182
02:40:16,160 --> 02:40:18,519
Speaker 1: are gonna gonna want. And they didn't have that opportunity.

3183
02:40:18,959 --> 02:40:20,880
Speaker 1: Now they did have the Zoom meetings and things like that,

3184
02:40:21,080 --> 02:40:23,320
Speaker 1: But I don't know how much stock they'll put into that.

3185
02:40:23,440 --> 02:40:26,240
Speaker 1: So I think teams, we'll look at it and say,

3186
02:40:27,400 --> 02:40:31,240
Speaker 1: are there guys that we are absolutely just no doubt

3187
02:40:32,000 --> 02:40:34,800
Speaker 1: not gonna have a role for this year? And if

3188
02:40:34,800 --> 02:40:37,480
Speaker 1: you think about the get eighty guys in camp, there's

3189
02:40:37,520 --> 02:40:41,240
Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster, plus sixteen on practice squad.

3190
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:44,440
Speaker 1: Am I right on that, So that's sixty nine of

3191
02:40:44,640 --> 02:40:47,760
Speaker 1: eighty plus you're gonna have, you know, a few that

3192
02:40:47,959 --> 02:40:52,520
Speaker 1: go to injured reserve. So are there a few guys

3193
02:40:52,560 --> 02:40:55,760
Speaker 1: on the team that you know just okay, just we're

3194
02:40:55,840 --> 02:40:58,440
Speaker 1: we're we'rete we're spinning our wheels here, we're waste our time.

3195
02:40:58,560 --> 02:41:01,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna move on. And you're probably two to three

3196
02:41:01,440 --> 02:41:03,800
Speaker 1: guys that you already know, maybe even four to five

3197
02:41:03,840 --> 02:41:06,200
Speaker 1: guys that you already know. So you're really kind of,

3198
02:41:06,440 --> 02:41:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, getting rid of four to five guys that

3199
02:41:08,280 --> 02:41:09,840
Speaker 1: you just know aren't gonna make it. Then you got

3200
02:41:09,879 --> 02:41:11,800
Speaker 1: three or four they're maybe like, man, I don't know,

3201
02:41:12,360 --> 02:41:15,520
Speaker 1: but I think prioritizing what you're gonna do with those

3202
02:41:15,600 --> 02:41:19,120
Speaker 1: four protected spots, that becomes sort of interesting to me

3203
02:41:19,840 --> 02:41:21,880
Speaker 1: because you would think right off the bat, one of

3204
02:41:21,920 --> 02:41:24,480
Speaker 1: those protected spots is going to be your number three quarterback,

3205
02:41:24,840 --> 02:41:28,800
Speaker 1: you would think. But then after that, who all gets protected?

3206
02:41:28,840 --> 02:41:31,320
Speaker 1: You know, if you only keep three tight ends, then

3207
02:41:31,760 --> 02:41:34,720
Speaker 1: if it's I mean George Thomas, Jordan Nakins and Darren

3208
02:41:34,760 --> 02:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Fells have been really good, Collie Wearing had a really

3209
02:41:37,120 --> 02:41:40,160
Speaker 1: good final day and Wearing is a former third round pick.

3210
02:41:40,680 --> 02:41:43,119
Speaker 1: If you're keeping three tight ends, do you protect whichever

3211
02:41:43,240 --> 02:41:45,800
Speaker 1: tight end you're not keeping? I mean, you know, you

3212
02:41:45,879 --> 02:41:48,080
Speaker 1: got to go through that process. So I think it's

3213
02:41:48,120 --> 02:41:51,720
Speaker 1: gonna vary from team to team. This team has been

3214
02:41:51,800 --> 02:41:54,240
Speaker 1: made up of veterans. I mean, Bill Bryant said that

3215
02:41:54,360 --> 02:41:56,680
Speaker 1: a lot of times, and I think my guests would

3216
02:41:56,680 --> 02:41:58,720
Speaker 1: be that he would want to keep as many rookies

3217
02:41:59,080 --> 02:42:02,039
Speaker 1: on drafted draft, did whatever is possible on that practice

3218
02:42:02,080 --> 02:42:04,360
Speaker 1: squad at worst, to make sure that they've got some

3219
02:42:04,560 --> 02:42:08,600
Speaker 1: foundation of young players that are still around going forward. Now,

3220
02:42:08,680 --> 02:42:11,000
Speaker 1: next year they'll pick up they'll they're on first or

3221
02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:13,480
Speaker 1: second round pick, but they've got like nine or ten picks,

3222
02:42:14,120 --> 02:42:17,240
Speaker 1: so they'll have bodies next year a few more and

3223
02:42:17,280 --> 02:42:19,560
Speaker 1: hopefully they'll have a full draft process to go through

3224
02:42:19,800 --> 02:42:21,560
Speaker 1: and they can feel maybe even better than they do

3225
02:42:21,600 --> 02:42:23,440
Speaker 1: about these guys. But I feel like they did a

3226
02:42:23,480 --> 02:42:25,600
Speaker 1: pretty good job finding these five guys as it was.

3227
02:42:25,800 --> 02:42:28,720
Speaker 1: So I think they'll have different process all the way throughout,

3228
02:42:28,760 --> 02:42:30,120
Speaker 1: but I think the way they'll look at it, and

3229
02:42:30,200 --> 02:42:32,560
Speaker 1: I've heard coach say this, I've heard Jack Easter we

3230
02:42:32,720 --> 02:42:37,040
Speaker 1: say this, I think they'll consider individual roles on the

3231
02:42:37,240 --> 02:42:42,760
Speaker 1: team a little bit more than just safety, corner, linebacker.

3232
02:42:43,240 --> 02:42:45,879
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna look at specific roles. I heard

3233
02:42:45,920 --> 02:42:48,280
Speaker 1: coach O'Brien say one day in practice, Hey, you're up

3234
02:42:48,320 --> 02:42:51,000
Speaker 1: for that third gunner position, and I was like, well,

3235
02:42:51,040 --> 02:42:53,680
Speaker 1: that's a new one, you know, and gunner being you know,

3236
02:42:53,720 --> 02:42:55,800
Speaker 1: a guy that flies down on punt team. It's the

3237
02:42:56,000 --> 02:42:58,440
Speaker 1: third gunner. That's code word for you're probably not gonna

3238
02:42:58,440 --> 02:43:01,840
Speaker 1: be on the team. Yeah. Yeah, either that or you're

3239
02:43:01,879 --> 02:43:05,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the guy that makes the fifty three. But

3240
02:43:05,720 --> 02:43:08,560
Speaker 1: he is, you know, forty seven through fifty three and

3241
02:43:08,640 --> 02:43:10,400
Speaker 1: he ends up having his name written down as an

3242
02:43:10,440 --> 02:43:12,560
Speaker 1: active on game day. But I heard him say that

3243
02:43:12,640 --> 02:43:15,280
Speaker 1: the other day and went, that's kind an interesting third gunner.

3244
02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:19,199
Speaker 1: And so it sounds it just feels like they talk

3245
02:43:19,320 --> 02:43:23,560
Speaker 1: more about specific roles that they want filled more than

3246
02:43:23,720 --> 02:43:26,720
Speaker 1: just buy position. So it's gonna be kind of interesting

3247
02:43:26,720 --> 02:43:30,440
Speaker 1: to see how they play it. But I don't The

3248
02:43:30,560 --> 02:43:32,440
Speaker 1: one thing I don't know that they'll do, and I

3249
02:43:32,520 --> 02:43:34,200
Speaker 1: think it will be interesting to your point, Sean, is

3250
02:43:34,320 --> 02:43:36,360
Speaker 1: how many players have they got and grab off the

3251
02:43:36,440 --> 02:43:39,160
Speaker 1: ware wire to put on their squad. That that's the

3252
02:43:39,240 --> 02:43:41,080
Speaker 1: one to me that I'm kind of curious to see

3253
02:43:41,120 --> 02:43:43,280
Speaker 1: what they do with because they've done that the past

3254
02:43:43,320 --> 02:43:45,680
Speaker 1: few years, but they've had a lot more information to

3255
02:43:45,879 --> 02:43:48,760
Speaker 1: go on those past few years as well. Joe along

3256
02:43:48,840 --> 02:43:51,520
Speaker 1: that line right there, do you know I'm gonna put

3257
02:43:51,560 --> 02:43:53,800
Speaker 1: you on the spot. But what is if you picked

3258
02:43:53,879 --> 02:43:57,039
Speaker 1: up a guy on the off the waiver waiver wire

3259
02:43:57,160 --> 02:43:58,959
Speaker 1: and you've got to put him on the roster? How

3260
02:43:59,200 --> 02:44:01,080
Speaker 1: what is the record wireman in a sense of how

3261
02:44:01,120 --> 02:44:02,800
Speaker 1: many weeks does he have to be on the waiver

3262
02:44:02,959 --> 02:44:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean on the roster following the pick up off

3263
02:44:06,879 --> 02:44:11,959
Speaker 1: the waiver wire? Um? I mean mean you could pick

3264
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:13,520
Speaker 1: a guy up off the waiver wire and he's there

3265
02:44:13,560 --> 02:44:15,800
Speaker 1: for your week and you get rid of him. No, no,

3266
02:44:16,000 --> 02:44:18,160
Speaker 1: like so say it's a guy that you that you're

3267
02:44:18,280 --> 02:44:20,840
Speaker 1: you're really high on, but he's a developmental player. Say

3268
02:44:20,879 --> 02:44:23,960
Speaker 1: it's I say it's culture or Heck from from the Texans,

3269
02:44:24,000 --> 02:44:25,720
Speaker 1: and they they put him on the waiver wire, and

3270
02:44:25,760 --> 02:44:28,080
Speaker 1: somebody goes, hey, we know those guys are good players

3271
02:44:28,560 --> 02:44:30,520
Speaker 1: and we want to grab him. But they have to

3272
02:44:30,760 --> 02:44:32,280
Speaker 1: they have to grab him and then put him on

3273
02:44:32,360 --> 02:44:33,920
Speaker 1: the roster. You can't just grab him and put him

3274
02:44:33,920 --> 02:44:36,840
Speaker 1: on their practice squad. Correct. Once you do that, how

3275
02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:39,279
Speaker 1: long would Charlie Heck have to be on a different

3276
02:44:39,400 --> 02:44:42,640
Speaker 1: team's roster before they could then put him on their

3277
02:44:42,720 --> 02:44:45,880
Speaker 1: practice squad? What is that? What is that game like?

3278
02:44:46,080 --> 02:44:49,800
Speaker 1: What is that requirement? I don't um, Well, that's a

3279
02:44:49,920 --> 02:44:54,360
Speaker 1: good question. I think if oh, that's a good question.

3280
02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:57,680
Speaker 1: I think if he does go to someone's let's let's

3281
02:44:57,720 --> 02:45:00,440
Speaker 1: say that happens and he is picked up on somebody's

3282
02:45:00,480 --> 02:45:03,160
Speaker 1: fifty three, he goes on to the fifty three man roster,

3283
02:45:03,640 --> 02:45:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a requirement for how

3284
02:45:06,920 --> 02:45:09,240
Speaker 1: long he has to stay on the fifty three man roster.

3285
02:45:09,360 --> 02:45:12,240
Speaker 1: But I don't believe you can then just stash him

3286
02:45:12,280 --> 02:45:14,160
Speaker 1: on the practice squad at that point. But I'm trying

3287
02:45:14,200 --> 02:45:16,280
Speaker 1: to think of I'm trying to think of a case

3288
02:45:17,480 --> 02:45:20,120
Speaker 1: that would be that way because the guys that the

3289
02:45:20,240 --> 02:45:23,279
Speaker 1: Texans have done that four in the past. I remember

3290
02:45:23,360 --> 02:45:26,880
Speaker 1: Jamal Role in twenty fourteen they did that. He went

3291
02:45:26,920 --> 02:45:28,480
Speaker 1: on the fifty three, but he was on the fifty

3292
02:45:28,520 --> 02:45:32,160
Speaker 1: three all year, and the Texas picked up Buddy Howell

3293
02:45:32,200 --> 02:45:34,160
Speaker 1: and A. J. Mooren. They were on the fifty three

3294
02:45:34,200 --> 02:45:36,520
Speaker 1: all year. I don't remember any of them going to

3295
02:45:36,720 --> 02:45:39,440
Speaker 1: the practice squad at that point, But I don't know

3296
02:45:39,520 --> 02:45:41,680
Speaker 1: what there. I don't know if there is a requirement, Clint,

3297
02:45:41,720 --> 02:45:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're just at that point if

3298
02:45:43,920 --> 02:45:46,600
Speaker 1: you if they're clipped off that fifty three man roster,

3299
02:45:47,440 --> 02:45:50,000
Speaker 1: then they have to probably go through the waiver process

3300
02:45:50,120 --> 02:45:52,200
Speaker 1: again and then maybe you can bring them back at

3301
02:45:52,240 --> 02:45:54,520
Speaker 1: that point on the practice squad. If nobody then picks

3302
02:45:54,600 --> 02:45:57,800
Speaker 1: him back up, that might be I think what it is.

3303
02:45:57,840 --> 02:45:59,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think there's a weekly requirement that they've

3304
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:02,520
Speaker 1: got to be on the fifty three. They just go

3305
02:46:02,680 --> 02:46:05,279
Speaker 1: straight to the fifty three. But if they get waived,

3306
02:46:05,280 --> 02:46:08,440
Speaker 1: and I think they're subject to the waiver requirement just

3307
02:46:08,560 --> 02:46:10,440
Speaker 1: as they were, you know, come out of camp, got

3308
02:46:10,520 --> 02:46:13,320
Speaker 1: you got you. There's so many different just little lens

3309
02:46:13,360 --> 02:46:16,480
Speaker 1: and outs and loopholes, so to speak. That that this year,

3310
02:46:16,520 --> 02:46:18,000
Speaker 1: I just think teams are gonna be able to take

3311
02:46:18,000 --> 02:46:20,600
Speaker 1: advantage of it to be intereaged. That's that's above my

3312
02:46:20,680 --> 02:46:23,039
Speaker 1: pay grade to figure all that out. But it's gonna

3313
02:46:23,040 --> 02:46:24,880
Speaker 1: be fun to watch how they do it. Heyt we

3314
02:46:25,000 --> 02:46:28,440
Speaker 1: had you on last week and you you mentioned, just

3315
02:46:28,879 --> 02:46:30,880
Speaker 1: off the cuff, you said, man, it wouldn't surprise me

3316
02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:33,680
Speaker 1: if if the Texans didn't roll seven defensive backs out

3317
02:46:33,720 --> 02:46:37,039
Speaker 1: there um Week one against Kansas City. When you said seven,

3318
02:46:37,120 --> 02:46:39,680
Speaker 1: I thought, damn, that's a big number. But I started

3319
02:46:39,760 --> 02:46:42,959
Speaker 1: doing the math with this group. There's seven or eight

3320
02:46:43,080 --> 02:46:46,240
Speaker 1: deep of guys that they're not just special teams players.

3321
02:46:46,320 --> 02:46:49,360
Speaker 1: They're guys that, assuming that they're healthy and assuming that

3322
02:46:49,400 --> 02:46:53,120
Speaker 1: they're playing good football, could be contributors on this football team.

3323
02:46:53,160 --> 02:46:56,480
Speaker 1: Out of that group, you got John Reid, you got more,

3324
02:46:56,879 --> 02:46:59,440
Speaker 1: you got Lonnie Johnson, you got hard grade some of

3325
02:46:59,480 --> 02:47:03,160
Speaker 1: those second get tier guys on this in this secondary.

3326
02:47:03,520 --> 02:47:05,960
Speaker 1: Of those guys, which one do you see getting the

3327
02:47:06,080 --> 02:47:09,400
Speaker 1: most the most clock in some of those different packages

3328
02:47:09,440 --> 02:47:13,000
Speaker 1: that Anthony Weaver might go out there. Well, that's a

3329
02:47:13,800 --> 02:47:15,959
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good question. I mean I think

3330
02:47:16,160 --> 02:47:18,240
Speaker 1: I think the staff trust John Reid. I wouldn't be

3331
02:47:18,280 --> 02:47:21,400
Speaker 1: surprised to see John Reid have a role with this team,

3332
02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:24,880
Speaker 1: not just special teams, a lot earlier than we think.

3333
02:47:25,520 --> 02:47:28,000
Speaker 1: And I think the other guy that really has kind

3334
02:47:28,040 --> 02:47:31,840
Speaker 1: of played his way into I don't into contention. I

3335
02:47:31,879 --> 02:47:33,200
Speaker 1: don't know if that's the right way of saying it.

3336
02:47:33,200 --> 02:47:35,080
Speaker 1: And I think he's always been on the radar screen

3337
02:47:35,840 --> 02:47:37,959
Speaker 1: is a J. Moore. I think AJ, with the way

3338
02:47:38,000 --> 02:47:40,160
Speaker 1: that he has played, I think there are a number

3339
02:47:40,200 --> 02:47:42,200
Speaker 1: of different things. You know, AJ at the end of

3340
02:47:42,400 --> 02:47:44,320
Speaker 1: last year and I went back and I watched the

3341
02:47:44,320 --> 02:47:48,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo game a couple of days ago, and in watching it,

3342
02:47:48,360 --> 02:47:50,600
Speaker 1: you saw AJ come on the field ended up blitzing

3343
02:47:50,680 --> 02:47:52,119
Speaker 1: I think a couple of times. I think he only

3344
02:47:52,160 --> 02:47:53,800
Speaker 1: played like two or three plays. I think he blitzed

3345
02:47:53,840 --> 02:47:56,480
Speaker 1: every time. It was kind of a key giveaway. But

3346
02:47:56,760 --> 02:47:58,959
Speaker 1: he had not played up to that point that I remember,

3347
02:47:59,200 --> 02:48:00,880
Speaker 1: and so I don't know the Buffalo handle it. But

3348
02:48:01,440 --> 02:48:03,720
Speaker 1: he times the blitz up pretty well. He played in

3349
02:48:03,800 --> 02:48:06,160
Speaker 1: coverage pretty well. I think a J. Moore and John

3350
02:48:06,240 --> 02:48:11,400
Speaker 1: Reid become really intriguing guys because of the way that

3351
02:48:11,720 --> 02:48:15,400
Speaker 1: they can blitz. And there's there's more art to it

3352
02:48:15,520 --> 02:48:17,720
Speaker 1: than science. You think, Okay, well your blitz, he just

3353
02:48:17,800 --> 02:48:19,960
Speaker 1: blitz the b gap or come off the edge or whatever.

3354
02:48:20,080 --> 02:48:22,880
Speaker 1: It's just well you just go right. There's more to

3355
02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:24,560
Speaker 1: it than that. And I saw it the other day

3356
02:48:24,600 --> 02:48:27,880
Speaker 1: with John Reid. He he he had a blitz where

3357
02:48:27,959 --> 02:48:31,200
Speaker 1: he timed it up perfectly from the slot and I

3358
02:48:31,360 --> 02:48:34,120
Speaker 1: had he had no idea he was coming, but he

3359
02:48:34,280 --> 02:48:36,320
Speaker 1: timed it up so perfectly. I mean he was his

3360
02:48:36,480 --> 02:48:38,320
Speaker 1: eyes were right on a number three wide receiver like

3361
02:48:38,400 --> 02:48:41,200
Speaker 1: he was locked in, and a ball a ball I

3362
02:48:41,240 --> 02:48:43,119
Speaker 1: don't even think the ball was snapped, and he started

3363
02:48:43,160 --> 02:48:45,280
Speaker 1: taking off for the quarterback and I was like, WHOA.

3364
02:48:45,920 --> 02:48:50,200
Speaker 1: So I do think that with John Reid and Vernon Hargraves,

3365
02:48:50,320 --> 02:48:52,400
Speaker 1: I think that'll be the battle for the nickel spot.

3366
02:48:53,760 --> 02:48:55,680
Speaker 1: And then when they want to go dime, then I

3367
02:48:55,760 --> 02:48:57,560
Speaker 1: think a J. Moore can step in there at one

3368
02:48:57,560 --> 02:48:59,840
Speaker 1: of the safety spots, you know, Jalen Watkins can step

3369
02:48:59,879 --> 02:49:02,320
Speaker 1: in there. I think they're depending on what they want

3370
02:49:02,360 --> 02:49:04,360
Speaker 1: to do with it. Lonnie Johnson can step in there,

3371
02:49:05,000 --> 02:49:07,560
Speaker 1: depending on how they want to go about it. But um,

3372
02:49:07,840 --> 02:49:10,040
Speaker 1: I was just kind of messing around with something. I

3373
02:49:10,480 --> 02:49:12,160
Speaker 1: kind of drewed up and send it to Mark. I'll

3374
02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:13,920
Speaker 1: send it to you during a break, Clint what I

3375
02:49:14,000 --> 02:49:16,200
Speaker 1: came up with And as I look at it, I

3376
02:49:16,320 --> 02:49:19,080
Speaker 1: put the Chiefs formation in there, and I had them

3377
02:49:19,120 --> 02:49:21,440
Speaker 1: an eleven personnel, and then I put the seven dbs

3378
02:49:21,440 --> 02:49:24,800
Speaker 1: on the field and I went, Okay. Vanomer wrote me

3379
02:49:24,840 --> 02:49:27,680
Speaker 1: back and he said, they'll run on you. I was like,

3380
02:49:27,959 --> 02:49:30,320
Speaker 1: I want them to, no question. I want the Chiefs

3381
02:49:30,360 --> 02:49:32,840
Speaker 1: to run on me. That's what I want. I want

3382
02:49:32,879 --> 02:49:36,600
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards, Larry Daryl Williams to run the ball fifty times. Yes,

3383
02:49:36,879 --> 02:49:39,760
Speaker 1: if if I can put a seven dB package on

3384
02:49:39,840 --> 02:49:42,280
Speaker 1: the field, and that means that Pat the ball gets

3385
02:49:42,320 --> 02:49:44,680
Speaker 1: taken out of Pat Mahomes hands. If I can do

3386
02:49:44,760 --> 02:49:49,760
Speaker 1: that by personnel, count me in exactly. And that's and

3387
02:49:49,879 --> 02:49:52,760
Speaker 1: I said, that's exactly what I want. I mean, hell,

3388
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:57,240
Speaker 1: at that point, play play eight dbs what and blacklock? Uh?

3389
02:49:57,320 --> 02:49:59,400
Speaker 1: And then put Zac out there. I mean that you

3390
02:49:59,480 --> 02:50:01,360
Speaker 1: know that might work. You know whatever your hail Mary

3391
02:50:01,400 --> 02:50:03,680
Speaker 1: package is, you know, just to get them to I mean, see,

3392
02:50:03,920 --> 02:50:06,520
Speaker 1: just dare them to do it. I mean, now that

3393
02:50:06,680 --> 02:50:09,840
Speaker 1: group over Kansas City probably can beat seventy b's a

3394
02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:13,000
Speaker 1: decent portion of the time, but just dare them see

3395
02:50:13,000 --> 02:50:16,480
Speaker 1: if they'll stick to the run for however long. If

3396
02:50:16,520 --> 02:50:18,120
Speaker 1: any defense according you could pull it off, I think

3397
02:50:18,160 --> 02:50:21,040
Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver definitely could. So I'm curious to see how

3398
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:23,880
Speaker 1: they they attack it and they try and match up personnel.

3399
02:50:23,959 --> 02:50:25,680
Speaker 1: But I also think you can go the other way too.

3400
02:50:25,959 --> 02:50:29,680
Speaker 1: I also think your defense sometimes the personnel you throw

3401
02:50:29,720 --> 02:50:31,600
Speaker 1: out there, maybe the offense has got to try and

3402
02:50:31,640 --> 02:50:33,560
Speaker 1: match up too, Like, well, wait a second, they've got

3403
02:50:33,720 --> 02:50:36,199
Speaker 1: Holy cow, we can't do this. We can't be stuck

3404
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:37,560
Speaker 1: in this. We gotta make sure that we've got a

3405
02:50:37,600 --> 02:50:40,160
Speaker 1: tight end in this situation because they're gonna put this

3406
02:50:40,240 --> 02:50:42,920
Speaker 1: out on the field. So you know your defense can

3407
02:50:42,959 --> 02:50:45,360
Speaker 1: attack as well. And I think hopefully that's what Anthony

3408
02:50:45,400 --> 02:50:48,039
Speaker 1: Weaver will do. On September tenth, for sure, John Harris

3409
02:50:48,160 --> 02:50:51,240
Speaker 1: joining US on Texans training Camp special presented by Xfinity.

3410
02:50:51,320 --> 02:50:54,200
Speaker 1: Johnny Anthony Weaver was asked this week to name three

3411
02:50:54,320 --> 02:50:57,879
Speaker 1: defensive players who stood out during training camps. Zat Cunningham

3412
02:50:57,920 --> 02:50:59,640
Speaker 1: and Justin Reid were two of them, and that's good

3413
02:50:59,680 --> 02:51:02,560
Speaker 1: because that's two of your best defensive players. But the

3414
02:51:02,680 --> 02:51:05,880
Speaker 1: very first name that he gave to the person who

3415
02:51:05,920 --> 02:51:09,280
Speaker 1: asked the question, was Jacob Martin. Does that match what

3416
02:51:09,440 --> 02:51:12,160
Speaker 1: you've seen from Jacob Martin out of camp and what

3417
02:51:12,280 --> 02:51:15,880
Speaker 1: will be the key to him sustaining that for sixteen games? Yeah?

3418
02:51:16,080 --> 02:51:20,000
Speaker 1: To me, it's very simple. He has been He has

3419
02:51:20,080 --> 02:51:21,760
Speaker 1: been that guy all the way along. I mean, he

3420
02:51:21,800 --> 02:51:23,320
Speaker 1: told us in the media session in the day he

3421
02:51:23,440 --> 02:51:25,240
Speaker 1: put on twenty one pounds and I'm a fell out

3422
02:51:25,240 --> 02:51:28,920
Speaker 1: of my chairs, like, oh thank god. But here's how

3423
02:51:29,000 --> 02:51:31,240
Speaker 1: he keeps that job. How he sets the edge if

3424
02:51:31,280 --> 02:51:34,280
Speaker 1: they are going to run. And I think everybody knew

3425
02:51:34,320 --> 02:51:36,200
Speaker 1: last year when Jacob came on the field. Everybody knew

3426
02:51:36,200 --> 02:51:38,160
Speaker 1: what Jacob was gonna do. He was either gonna rush

3427
02:51:38,240 --> 02:51:40,480
Speaker 1: the outside or he was gonna work a stump back

3428
02:51:40,520 --> 02:51:42,480
Speaker 1: to the inside with ever whoever he was on the

3429
02:51:42,520 --> 02:51:44,879
Speaker 1: side with. So he was passed rushing, there's no doubt.

3430
02:51:45,080 --> 02:51:47,480
Speaker 1: And what Kansas City did in the playoff game was

3431
02:51:47,600 --> 02:51:51,000
Speaker 1: they schemed the side that Martin was on that for

3432
02:51:51,160 --> 02:51:54,280
Speaker 1: Jacob to have to go cover Damian Williams down the

3433
02:51:54,360 --> 02:51:57,040
Speaker 1: scene basically, and that's just not what Jacob does well.

3434
02:51:57,480 --> 02:52:00,760
Speaker 1: So I think there's probably a better way to attack

3435
02:52:00,840 --> 02:52:03,199
Speaker 1: it this year. That Jacob won't be put in that position.

3436
02:52:03,480 --> 02:52:05,520
Speaker 1: But to me, it's pretty easy for Jacob. It is

3437
02:52:06,080 --> 02:52:09,600
Speaker 1: can he set the edge against big tackles and even

3438
02:52:09,680 --> 02:52:12,440
Speaker 1: blocking tight ends against the run. If he could do that,

3439
02:52:12,720 --> 02:52:14,959
Speaker 1: then he can stay on the field. Last year, he's

3440
02:52:15,000 --> 02:52:18,039
Speaker 1: two twenty six at some points two twenty six pounds.

3441
02:52:18,360 --> 02:52:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was gonna be able to

3442
02:52:19,959 --> 02:52:21,920
Speaker 1: hold up against the run, but man, he was a

3443
02:52:21,959 --> 02:52:25,160
Speaker 1: house of fire getting after it when when quarterbacks went

3444
02:52:25,200 --> 02:52:26,880
Speaker 1: back to throw. But it was hard to hard to

3445
02:52:26,959 --> 02:52:28,480
Speaker 1: keep out there on first and second down because you

3446
02:52:28,520 --> 02:52:30,200
Speaker 1: felt like, man, they're gonna run right at this guy.

3447
02:52:30,600 --> 02:52:33,000
Speaker 1: If he can hold the edge and set the edge, well,

3448
02:52:33,640 --> 02:52:35,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on his field because of the way

3449
02:52:35,760 --> 02:52:37,880
Speaker 1: that he rushes. If he turns into a three down

3450
02:52:38,000 --> 02:52:41,039
Speaker 1: player at two hundred and forty five pounds, oh boy,

3451
02:52:41,400 --> 02:52:44,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna be tough. But it's that and

3452
02:52:44,560 --> 02:52:46,720
Speaker 1: that only can you set the edge against the run,

3453
02:52:46,720 --> 02:52:49,000
Speaker 1: because you know he can rush win one on ones

3454
02:52:49,360 --> 02:52:52,000
Speaker 1: stunts he works. I mean, he's gonna be a menace

3455
02:52:52,200 --> 02:52:54,680
Speaker 1: and pass rush. But if you know he's out there,

3456
02:52:54,840 --> 02:52:56,760
Speaker 1: you know he's rushing in the passer, you can scheme

3457
02:52:56,840 --> 02:52:58,360
Speaker 1: up against that. But if he's setting the edge against

3458
02:52:58,360 --> 02:53:00,280
Speaker 1: the run, he's out there for all three downs, you're

3459
02:53:00,280 --> 02:53:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna feel pretty good about what you can disguise and

3460
02:53:03,040 --> 02:53:05,200
Speaker 1: what different things you can do. Because now he's out

3461
02:53:05,240 --> 02:53:07,160
Speaker 1: there for all three downs and the offense is going well,

3462
02:53:07,600 --> 02:53:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's run at him and see it's

3463
02:53:09,240 --> 02:53:11,119
Speaker 1: test him. Okay, go ahead, and he said in the edge,

3464
02:53:11,160 --> 02:53:13,320
Speaker 1: well you stop the run, you stop second along and

3465
02:53:13,440 --> 02:53:15,640
Speaker 1: now he Watton and company could just go eat and

3466
02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:19,400
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. Johnny, twelve days till the season starts, Baby,

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Speaker 1: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans throughout the season. Johnny,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate it as always, Go enjoy your Saturday, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you boys. Thank you very much for having me.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Johnny, good stuff as always, John Harris

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Speaker 1: joining us on the program. It is Texans Training Camp Special.

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Speaker 1: This is our second to last one. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: to get here. And I tell you, glynt of all

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Speaker 1: the things, it almost feels like with everything going on

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Speaker 1: scrimmage this past week on Thursday, and there was talk

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday or Tuesday, or Wednesday about Tuesday probably that hey,

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Speaker 1: The scrimmage might get postponed because of Hurricane Laura. We

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Speaker 1: were lucky in that, you know, we were able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of dodge that one. Certainly thoughts and

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Speaker 1: prayers to our neighbors to the east and Beaumont and

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Speaker 1: Lake Charles and so forth, but dodge the bullet on weather. There.

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Speaker 1: So the scrimmage days in place. But then on Wednesday,

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03:01:56,600 --> 03:02:02,039
Speaker 1: all these NBA teams start start protesting and walking out

3623
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Speaker 1: of games. And the thought was this might happen in

3624
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Speaker 1: the NFL too, and in Major League Baseball, and it did.

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Speaker 1: It happened by Major League Baseball canceled a bunch of games,

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Speaker 1: including the Astros last night. Nine different teams on Thursday

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Speaker 1: canceled their practices to align with what but the NBA

3628
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Speaker 1: had started earlier in the day. We saw soccer teams

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Speaker 1: do it. It was happening all over the sports world.

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Speaker 1: The Texans chose to continue on with their scrimmage because

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Speaker 1: they felt they needed the work and there were productive

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Speaker 1: I just thought as the scrimmage was ending in Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien gave that answer in his press conference about you know,

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Speaker 1: we thought it'd be a good idea to do the scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: but we're having all kinds of conversations behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, man, what a strange world, and

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Speaker 1: that what was the one thing that was scaring us

3639
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Speaker 1: that we thought might cancel football? The freaking coronavirus. Like

3640
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Speaker 1: nobody thought a damn thing at COVID nineteen throughout the

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Speaker 1: last few days, like COVID. Sorry, COVID, you're now third

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Speaker 1: events canceled in twenty twenty. Nice try, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: a nice try with your whole big pandemic. Ooh, your

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Speaker 1: third now beyond the social justice protests and uh and

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Speaker 1: and bad weather coming from the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah,

3647
03:03:13,120 --> 03:03:15,760
Speaker 1: what a weird year, man, in such a weird way.

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Speaker 1: There's it was a little you get away from talking

3649
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Speaker 1: about COVID nineteen across the country and we're so lucky

3650
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Speaker 1: we could talk about a damn hurricane right right, right right?

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Speaker 1: What a distraction? Yeah? Wow, Um, so the season will

3652
03:03:28,760 --> 03:03:30,920
Speaker 1: be here soon enough, twelve days from now. Somebody corrected

3653
03:03:30,959 --> 03:03:32,480
Speaker 1: me on the text page. I said, yeah, you know what,

3654
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Speaker 1: you go into this game against the Chiefs and yeah,

3655
03:03:35,200 --> 03:03:38,080
Speaker 1: anything that can make it a little little wonky, you know,

3656
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Speaker 1: a little uh, you know different. You know, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be more variants in this whole thing, just because of

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Speaker 1: the difference in the lead up to the season. You know,

3659
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Speaker 1: I like that for the Texans more so than the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you inject some sort of variable into something, it's

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Speaker 1: it's always thought to help the team that's the underdog

3662
03:03:53,400 --> 03:03:55,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more than it helps the team that's favored.

3663
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Speaker 1: The team that's favored is favored for a reason. They

3664
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Speaker 1: got plenty of things going for him. They don't need

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Speaker 1: any variants injected to the situation. And one of the

3666
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Speaker 1: things I brought up was, Hey, who knows, maybe they're

3667
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Speaker 1: a little distracted or feeling full of themselves because they're

3668
03:04:06,000 --> 03:04:08,199
Speaker 1: raising their banner for the you know, for the super

3669
03:04:08,280 --> 03:04:10,760
Speaker 1: Bowl the ring. Someone corrected me and said, they actually

3670
03:04:10,920 --> 03:04:13,600
Speaker 1: did that this weekend. They'd a practice with five thousand

3671
03:04:13,640 --> 03:04:16,120
Speaker 1: people there, and they raised the Super Bowl banner, so

3672
03:04:16,560 --> 03:04:18,760
Speaker 1: one less thing to distract the chiefs. Well, look, it

3673
03:04:18,840 --> 03:04:21,280
Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that that Pat Mahomes is out

3674
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Speaker 1: there buying into baseball teams, and Travis Kelsey's out there

3675
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Speaker 1: with lady issues, and uh, what's my man, Chris the

3676
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Speaker 1: defensive lineman. It just signed to Big Chris Jones. Chris

3677
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Speaker 1: Jones is out there guaranteed five Super Bowls, Tyreek Hill

3678
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Speaker 1: guaranteed seven. I mean, there's definitely plenty of distraction in Kansas.

3679
03:04:40,240 --> 03:04:42,480
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of Rocky Balboa and Rocky three

3680
03:04:42,560 --> 03:04:45,199
Speaker 1: going on right now. Yes, you think we're they're starting

3681
03:04:45,240 --> 03:04:47,120
Speaker 1: to get a little full of themselves with other American

3682
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3683
03:04:50,879 --> 03:04:52,920
Speaker 1: like that. And meanwhile, club are lang in this case

3684
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Yes, he's in a basement somewhere doing pull

3685
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3686
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Speaker 1: glistening off of his two right, two pittys the full

3687
03:05:06,280 --> 03:05:08,320
Speaker 1: So Clinton looking at the schedule here, Look, we know

3688
03:05:08,480 --> 03:05:11,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City in Baltimore are right now, on paper the

3689
03:05:11,080 --> 03:05:13,280
Speaker 1: two best teams in football and maybe in actuality, the

3690
03:05:13,320 --> 03:05:16,120
Speaker 1: two best teams in football looking at the rest of

3691
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Speaker 1: this schedule, and who knows, maybe your answer to one

3692
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Speaker 1: of these questions is one of those two teams. But

3693
03:05:19,959 --> 03:05:23,800
Speaker 1: the question I posed before the break is which game

3694
03:05:23,879 --> 03:05:26,080
Speaker 1: on the schedule do you think is going to be

3695
03:05:27,280 --> 03:05:29,360
Speaker 1: easier than it might look on paper right now? And

3696
03:05:29,560 --> 03:05:31,320
Speaker 1: which is a game or two, if you want to

3697
03:05:31,400 --> 03:05:32,920
Speaker 1: name them, that you think is going to be harder

3698
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Speaker 1: than we're giving it credit for that. I got three

3699
03:05:36,080 --> 03:05:37,400
Speaker 1: of them that are that I think are going to

3700
03:05:37,440 --> 03:05:40,520
Speaker 1: be easier, and that's that's the New England Patriots, UM,

3701
03:05:41,320 --> 03:05:44,880
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Green Bay Packers. I just

3702
03:05:45,000 --> 03:05:47,000
Speaker 1: I think the Packers take a step back. I mean,

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03:05:47,240 --> 03:05:50,560
Speaker 1: you know, they were just they were just I don't

3704
03:05:50,560 --> 03:05:52,440
Speaker 1: know how they won so many games last year and

3705
03:05:52,480 --> 03:05:55,720
Speaker 1: got to the NFC Championship without having more than Davante

3706
03:05:55,800 --> 03:06:00,720
Speaker 1: Adams as as weapons for sure, the right for Aaron Rodgers.

3707
03:06:00,760 --> 03:06:03,320
Speaker 1: So I just don't buy into them. I mean, you

3708
03:06:03,400 --> 03:06:05,120
Speaker 1: gotta view them as man. They were in the NFC

3709
03:06:05,280 --> 03:06:07,359
Speaker 1: Championship last year, so it's a hell of an opponent.

3710
03:06:07,440 --> 03:06:11,560
Speaker 1: But I just don't buy into what we saw last

3711
03:06:11,640 --> 03:06:15,800
Speaker 1: year from them. Uh. The Steelers, Man, I offensively, they

3712
03:06:15,920 --> 03:06:18,840
Speaker 1: just don't scare ME. An another really good defensively, and

3713
03:06:18,959 --> 03:06:22,160
Speaker 1: other Packers are really good defensively. But when you look

3714
03:06:22,200 --> 03:06:27,320
Speaker 1: at teams that I think will scare the Texans, I

3715
03:06:27,640 --> 03:06:32,320
Speaker 1: need offensive firepower that can outscore. I need to see

3716
03:06:32,520 --> 03:06:36,520
Speaker 1: something more than just good defenses. And I think the Patriots, Steelers,

3717
03:06:36,560 --> 03:06:41,120
Speaker 1: and Packers they've got great defenses and their suspect at

3718
03:06:41,200 --> 03:06:43,160
Speaker 1: best on the offensive side of the football. And you,

3719
03:06:43,440 --> 03:06:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a mouthful when you were talking

3720
03:06:45,920 --> 03:06:49,080
Speaker 1: about Cam Newton, Ben Roethlisberger and Aaron Rodgers. I just

3721
03:06:49,240 --> 03:06:53,480
Speaker 1: think the weapons that those guys have right now, they're

3722
03:06:53,520 --> 03:06:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna have a really hard time scoring points. Man. And

3723
03:06:56,040 --> 03:06:58,560
Speaker 1: when that's the case, I just believe Deshaun Watson and

3724
03:06:58,680 --> 03:07:00,800
Speaker 1: company are gonna find a way to outscore. So I

3725
03:07:00,879 --> 03:07:03,400
Speaker 1: just think those three games, there's Sean or or. As

3726
03:07:03,480 --> 03:07:05,360
Speaker 1: we look at the names, we look at the franchises,

3727
03:07:05,680 --> 03:07:08,280
Speaker 1: we look at the history versus the Patriots, you go, man,

3728
03:07:08,320 --> 03:07:10,720
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough one. Those are blue blood franchise. Yes,

3729
03:07:11,000 --> 03:07:12,520
Speaker 1: there's a chance that I just think if I had

3730
03:07:12,560 --> 03:07:14,760
Speaker 1: to pick them now, I wouldn't take any of them lightly.

3731
03:07:15,000 --> 03:07:16,600
Speaker 1: But if I had to pick three teams on this

3732
03:07:16,640 --> 03:07:18,760
Speaker 1: schedule that everybody thinks you're gonna be difficult games, it

3733
03:07:18,920 --> 03:07:22,119
Speaker 1: might not be that difficult. It would be those three.

3734
03:07:22,200 --> 03:07:23,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay is the one that made me think of

3735
03:07:23,560 --> 03:07:25,760
Speaker 1: this topic. As I was looking at the schedule, I'm like, man,

3736
03:07:25,800 --> 03:07:27,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if that green Bay game. To me

3737
03:07:27,720 --> 03:07:29,240
Speaker 1: that the thing I'm most worried about with the green

3738
03:07:29,280 --> 03:07:32,840
Speaker 1: Bay game is the cumulative effect of the early part

3739
03:07:32,920 --> 03:07:35,280
Speaker 1: of the season being so difficult. And that's your last

3740
03:07:35,360 --> 03:07:37,720
Speaker 1: game before the bye week. You know, it's that's Week

3741
03:07:37,840 --> 03:07:40,080
Speaker 1: seven and coming off of a first six games where

3742
03:07:40,080 --> 03:07:43,640
Speaker 1: you win at Kansas City home, Baltimore at Pittsburgh home,

3743
03:07:43,720 --> 03:07:48,200
Speaker 1: Minnesota home, Jacksonville at Tennessee. You know, So those are

3744
03:07:48,240 --> 03:07:50,800
Speaker 1: there's some tough games in that patch. But I'm with you.

3745
03:07:50,840 --> 03:07:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not as high on green Bay than

3746
03:07:52,360 --> 03:07:54,880
Speaker 1: green Bay takes a big step back this year. New England.

3747
03:07:54,920 --> 03:07:56,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't that high on in the first place. I

3748
03:07:56,560 --> 03:07:58,840
Speaker 1: disagree with you on the Steelers only because if Ben

3749
03:07:58,959 --> 03:08:01,080
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is health, he looks like he's trimmed down a

3750
03:08:01,120 --> 03:08:03,520
Speaker 1: little bit of his arm is healthy. I think they've

3751
03:08:03,560 --> 03:08:05,480
Speaker 1: got some weapons on that team, and they were eight

3752
03:08:05,520 --> 03:08:10,120
Speaker 1: and eat last year with horrible quarterback play. Yeah. Like,

3753
03:08:10,240 --> 03:08:13,040
Speaker 1: if if Ben Roethlisberger is just seventy five percent of

3754
03:08:13,080 --> 03:08:15,760
Speaker 1: what Ben Roethlisberger normally is, then I think that could

3755
03:08:15,760 --> 03:08:18,160
Speaker 1: be an eleven win team. Yeah, I mean I could

3756
03:08:18,160 --> 03:08:21,320
Speaker 1: see him finishing the season strong and being a playoff team.

3757
03:08:21,480 --> 03:08:24,480
Speaker 1: I just when I don't believe in Juju Smith Suster. Yeah,

3758
03:08:24,480 --> 03:08:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean he's my guy. He's my Miles Austin, Right,

3759
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Speaker 1: He's the guy that I look at. Yeah, I look

3760
03:08:29,680 --> 03:08:31,680
Speaker 1: at him and I go, man, you were a really

3761
03:08:32,120 --> 03:08:36,560
Speaker 1: really really good number two. Yeah, and insanely good number

3762
03:08:36,560 --> 03:08:39,320
Speaker 1: two right. And I just I can't. I can't buy

3763
03:08:39,520 --> 03:08:42,360
Speaker 1: into him being like a team being confident they're gonna

3764
03:08:42,360 --> 03:08:45,320
Speaker 1: go into a season with him as their number one

3765
03:08:45,480 --> 03:08:49,840
Speaker 1: receiver without two and three being pretty damn good. And

3766
03:08:50,040 --> 03:08:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Pittsburgh Steelers roster up and down,

3767
03:08:52,840 --> 03:08:55,040
Speaker 1: but I just don't. I like Connor and out of

3768
03:08:55,080 --> 03:08:57,680
Speaker 1: the backfield, Um, you know, I think they'll have a

3769
03:08:57,840 --> 03:09:00,960
Speaker 1: decent run game. I like Juju Smith Shust. I just

3770
03:09:01,040 --> 03:09:02,840
Speaker 1: don't look at him and go, man, you're gonna strike

3771
03:09:02,920 --> 03:09:05,840
Speaker 1: fear in defenses across the league. Mike Tomlin will have

3772
03:09:05,879 --> 03:09:08,160
Speaker 1: a hell of a defense, and Ben Roethlisberger will win

3773
03:09:08,240 --> 03:09:10,320
Speaker 1: some games for him. I just look at it versus

3774
03:09:10,400 --> 03:09:12,360
Speaker 1: the Texans and they just don't scare me that that

3775
03:09:12,560 --> 03:09:14,840
Speaker 1: might be a desperate Texans team that goes into that

3776
03:09:14,920 --> 03:09:17,480
Speaker 1: game as well. Let's face that the Texans are gonna

3777
03:09:17,480 --> 03:09:19,720
Speaker 1: be underdogs in their first two games. They're playing the

3778
03:09:19,760 --> 03:09:21,480
Speaker 1: two best teams in the AGEC. You know what I mean,

3779
03:09:22,120 --> 03:09:24,280
Speaker 1: There is a there's a decent chance of Texans are

3780
03:09:24,280 --> 03:09:26,560
Speaker 1: O and two to start the season, and that that's

3781
03:09:26,600 --> 03:09:29,280
Speaker 1: not a slap at the Texans. Again, the Ravens were

3782
03:09:29,320 --> 03:09:31,720
Speaker 1: fourteen and two and beat you by thirty four last year,

3783
03:09:32,120 --> 03:09:34,240
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs rolled you up fifty one to seven

3784
03:09:34,280 --> 03:09:36,160
Speaker 1: after you're twenty four nothing lead in the playoffs. So

3785
03:09:36,160 --> 03:09:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything that's groundbreaking or I think even

3786
03:09:38,920 --> 03:09:41,320
Speaker 1: insulting that the Texans could go oh and two to

3787
03:09:41,440 --> 03:09:43,640
Speaker 1: start the season. That's what the oddsmakers say is going

3788
03:09:43,760 --> 03:09:46,120
Speaker 1: to happen with the Texans. So my point is that

3789
03:09:46,200 --> 03:09:47,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers and there's gonna be no fans in the

3790
03:09:48,040 --> 03:09:51,320
Speaker 1: stands at Hines Field either. That was announced two days ago,

3791
03:09:51,640 --> 03:09:54,680
Speaker 1: so to be an empty stadium, they may get the Steelers,

3792
03:09:54,800 --> 03:09:56,240
Speaker 1: might get a Texans team that's a bit of a

3793
03:09:56,280 --> 03:09:59,040
Speaker 1: wounded animal in that game, you know. Yeah, yeah, I

3794
03:09:59,080 --> 03:10:02,120
Speaker 1: mean in a desperate situation. Yes, that's what I was

3795
03:10:02,120 --> 03:10:04,640
Speaker 1: gonna say. I just when I look at at this

3796
03:10:04,800 --> 03:10:08,920
Speaker 1: football team, Sean, and look, I'm I'm I'm gonna addressing

3797
03:10:09,000 --> 03:10:12,880
Speaker 1: the conversation from a stance of I feel like the

3798
03:10:14,480 --> 03:10:17,120
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna be as aggressive as the defense

3799
03:10:17,240 --> 03:10:19,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be. I think that's when we've heard I've

3800
03:10:19,040 --> 03:10:21,879
Speaker 1: heard I've heard Bill O'Brien say we gotta play faster.

3801
03:10:22,360 --> 03:10:24,680
Speaker 1: And so when Bill O'Brien lets the cat out of

3802
03:10:24,720 --> 03:10:26,640
Speaker 1: the bag on something which he doesn't do very often,

3803
03:10:26,840 --> 03:10:29,120
Speaker 1: he feels pretty damn confident that that's what they're gonna do.

3804
03:10:29,600 --> 03:10:32,000
Speaker 1: Um And with that said, I just feel like you're

3805
03:10:32,000 --> 03:10:34,280
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna beat the Texans, you're gonna score

3806
03:10:34,320 --> 03:10:36,320
Speaker 1: a lot of points. Yeah. Yeah, I think so too.

3807
03:10:36,640 --> 03:10:38,640
Speaker 1: So what about the flip side, What are some games

3808
03:10:38,720 --> 03:10:41,920
Speaker 1: right now with some teams, maybe not blue blood teams,

3809
03:10:42,000 --> 03:10:44,720
Speaker 1: or maybe teams that are being underrated or or you know,

3810
03:10:44,879 --> 03:10:47,240
Speaker 1: just flying under the radar that you think are gonna

3811
03:10:47,240 --> 03:10:49,120
Speaker 1: be harder games, and maybe they look like on the

3812
03:10:49,160 --> 03:10:52,560
Speaker 1: schedule right now, Man Colts and the Titans. I hate

3813
03:10:52,560 --> 03:10:54,400
Speaker 1: to hate for it to be two division and that

3814
03:10:54,520 --> 03:10:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm basing that. You know, I do radio every day

3815
03:10:56,640 --> 03:10:58,480
Speaker 1: with Ron the show Hugli, and Ron's not real high

3816
03:10:58,520 --> 03:11:02,200
Speaker 1: on Tannehill and he's not Ohian Rivers. And so when

3817
03:11:02,280 --> 03:11:05,600
Speaker 1: I I am, so that's good. Like I'm high on

3818
03:11:05,720 --> 03:11:07,600
Speaker 1: both of those guys in there in the in the

3819
03:11:07,920 --> 03:11:11,360
Speaker 1: situation that they're in right now, and I think they're

3820
03:11:11,400 --> 03:11:15,360
Speaker 1: gonna be problems for the Houston Texans. I just believe

3821
03:11:15,560 --> 03:11:19,960
Speaker 1: those two guys, those two teams are our teams. That

3822
03:11:21,240 --> 03:11:23,280
Speaker 1: one of them is obviously made a run to the

3823
03:11:23,400 --> 03:11:26,240
Speaker 1: FC Championship game. And when you make a run to

3824
03:11:26,320 --> 03:11:31,480
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game with you ride a very strong

3825
03:11:31,720 --> 03:11:34,960
Speaker 1: run game, that's more than just Derek Henry. You know,

3826
03:11:35,080 --> 03:11:37,280
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good schemer upfront, that's a hell

3827
03:11:37,320 --> 03:11:40,320
Speaker 1: of an offensive line, and that's being able to CounterPunch

3828
03:11:40,400 --> 03:11:43,120
Speaker 1: really well with a J. Brown and Tanny Hill. So

3829
03:11:43,280 --> 03:11:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm just not I just refuse to take those guys lightly.

3830
03:11:46,720 --> 03:11:48,640
Speaker 1: And I just think the Colts man, when you look

3831
03:11:48,720 --> 03:11:50,720
Speaker 1: at I think they're gonna look different than what we've

3832
03:11:50,760 --> 03:11:52,840
Speaker 1: seen in the past. They're really good up front with

3833
03:11:52,840 --> 03:11:54,680
Speaker 1: the offer, They're gonna have the ability to run the football.

3834
03:11:54,879 --> 03:11:58,000
Speaker 1: And I just think Philip Rivers is a master distributor man,

3835
03:11:58,280 --> 03:12:01,440
Speaker 1: and with the weapons around him and with the run

3836
03:12:01,520 --> 03:12:03,320
Speaker 1: game that he's gonna be able to lean on, he

3837
03:12:03,480 --> 03:12:05,440
Speaker 1: scares the hell out of me. Man. So those two

3838
03:12:05,520 --> 03:12:08,640
Speaker 1: teams in division, the Browns out of division simply because

3839
03:12:08,680 --> 03:12:11,160
Speaker 1: of simply because of how talent Johnathan Taylor looks really

3840
03:12:11,200 --> 03:12:14,560
Speaker 1: good supposedly at colts Camp, the running back out of Wisconsin, right,

3841
03:12:14,840 --> 03:12:17,360
Speaker 1: he looks really good. Yeah, I mean, just so there's

3842
03:12:17,360 --> 03:12:19,640
Speaker 1: one more running. I mean like like you're looking at

3843
03:12:19,680 --> 03:12:21,120
Speaker 1: me like it's my fault. That hell no, it just

3844
03:12:21,240 --> 03:12:22,960
Speaker 1: it just pisses me because you go, yeah, he looks

3845
03:12:23,000 --> 03:12:24,680
Speaker 1: good and good, and you're looking at me like like

3846
03:12:24,720 --> 03:12:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm his dad or something. You're adding him to a

3847
03:12:27,920 --> 03:12:30,480
Speaker 1: really good offensive line, You're adding him to a really

3848
03:12:30,560 --> 03:12:33,080
Speaker 1: good stable of running backs. And oh, by the way,

3849
03:12:33,280 --> 03:12:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, one of the one of a great quarterback

3850
03:12:35,160 --> 03:12:37,680
Speaker 1: is spinning the rock around the parks. Here, here's my

3851
03:12:38,200 --> 03:12:40,440
Speaker 1: I have three and they're kind of intertwined as far

3852
03:12:40,520 --> 03:12:43,520
Speaker 1: as games that look games that look easier now than

3853
03:12:43,560 --> 03:12:47,000
Speaker 1: I think they're actually gonna be. And they are weeks ten, twelve,

3854
03:12:47,080 --> 03:12:50,680
Speaker 1: and fourteen, and they're all road games, and they're all

3855
03:12:50,720 --> 03:12:53,080
Speaker 1: out of the division, and actually two of them are

3856
03:12:53,120 --> 03:12:55,600
Speaker 1: out of the conference. And here's why I think these

3857
03:12:55,640 --> 03:12:57,720
Speaker 1: are hard games. And they're Cleveland in Week ten on

3858
03:12:57,840 --> 03:13:01,120
Speaker 1: the road, Detroit Thanksgiving Day on the road, Chicago at

3859
03:13:01,240 --> 03:13:05,800
Speaker 1: Chicago in Week fourteen, outdoors in December at Chicago, all

3860
03:13:05,920 --> 03:13:09,240
Speaker 1: difficult situations to begin with, especially Detroit on Thanksgiving in

3861
03:13:09,320 --> 03:13:12,680
Speaker 1: Chicago outdoors in December, like those in a vacuum, would

3862
03:13:12,720 --> 03:13:15,880
Speaker 1: be hard games anyways, just because of the circumstance, right

3863
03:13:15,959 --> 03:13:19,120
Speaker 1: Like Detroit place Thanksgiving every year, they're used to that

3864
03:13:19,320 --> 03:13:23,040
Speaker 1: weird week and you know the holiday. And Chicago, like

3865
03:13:23,120 --> 03:13:25,600
Speaker 1: the Texans, don't play a lot of games in in

3866
03:13:25,720 --> 03:13:27,600
Speaker 1: Chicago December where there I used to live there. It's

3867
03:13:27,600 --> 03:13:31,879
Speaker 1: a miserable, miserable place in December. The reason these games

3868
03:13:31,920 --> 03:13:34,600
Speaker 1: are are even harder than they look is because Cleveland

3869
03:13:34,720 --> 03:13:37,880
Speaker 1: is sandwiched in between at Jacksonville, a division game, and

3870
03:13:38,040 --> 03:13:40,320
Speaker 1: the home game against New England, which may as well

3871
03:13:40,400 --> 03:13:42,920
Speaker 1: be a Division game for the Texans they play every year,

3872
03:13:43,879 --> 03:13:47,680
Speaker 1: and then the Detroit game is sandwiched in between New

3873
03:13:47,760 --> 03:13:53,000
Speaker 1: England and Indianapolis, and then the Chicago game is sandwiched

3874
03:13:53,040 --> 03:13:56,320
Speaker 1: in between the two Indianapolis games. And so you may

3875
03:13:56,360 --> 03:13:57,760
Speaker 1: be wondering, what does that have to do with anything?

3876
03:13:57,800 --> 03:13:59,400
Speaker 1: Why why do we hear that it's sandwiched in between

3877
03:13:59,440 --> 03:14:01,360
Speaker 1: those games? Because, as you know, Clint, from being in

3878
03:14:01,400 --> 03:14:03,200
Speaker 1: the league, there's an abb and a flow to a

3879
03:14:03,240 --> 03:14:05,720
Speaker 1: schedule where what happens the previous week affects you in

3880
03:14:05,840 --> 03:14:08,720
Speaker 1: some way the following week, either physically or mentally, no question,

3881
03:14:09,000 --> 03:14:11,160
Speaker 1: whether it's a letdown or whatever the case. Maybe, well,

3882
03:14:11,240 --> 03:14:13,400
Speaker 1: I'll say emotionally as well, throw that in there as well,

3883
03:14:13,400 --> 03:14:17,520
Speaker 1: because yeah, I mean sandwich between two Indianapolis games that

3884
03:14:18,080 --> 03:14:20,520
Speaker 1: more than likely are gonna mean something, Yes, and you

3885
03:14:20,760 --> 03:14:23,160
Speaker 1: you just get so worked up for the first one

3886
03:14:23,520 --> 03:14:25,400
Speaker 1: that the next game may be a letdown. They know,

3887
03:14:25,480 --> 03:14:27,560
Speaker 1: by the way, you got another one coming behind it

3888
03:14:27,879 --> 03:14:29,920
Speaker 1: that you're gonna you're gonna need to be physically, mentally

3889
03:14:29,959 --> 03:14:32,640
Speaker 1: and emotionally prepared for. And so yeah, and there, if

3890
03:14:32,640 --> 03:14:34,200
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, at the end of the season, right,

3891
03:14:34,400 --> 03:14:40,400
Speaker 1: they uh, the Coult weeks thirteen and fifteen, Right, so

3892
03:14:40,480 --> 03:14:42,360
Speaker 1: you're late in the season, so add that to the

3893
03:14:42,680 --> 03:14:45,880
Speaker 1: fatigue aspect of playing the game. So yeah, man, that

3894
03:14:46,120 --> 03:14:49,879
Speaker 1: that's definitely a monster. Yeah, it's like on paper, individually,

3895
03:14:49,920 --> 03:14:51,880
Speaker 1: the opponents the second half of the year don't look

3896
03:14:51,920 --> 03:14:54,680
Speaker 1: that hard. But the way that the schedule kind of,

3897
03:14:54,920 --> 03:14:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, change itself along like that is underratedly difficult

3898
03:14:59,120 --> 03:15:01,279
Speaker 1: I think for this team. Well, you hope the culture

3899
03:15:01,360 --> 03:15:04,320
Speaker 1: that that Bill O'Brien has built, the leadership, the JJ

3900
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Speaker 1: Watts and those guys are leading the ship well enough

3901
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3902
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Speaker 1: an elite level. They're they're crossing t's and dot and eyes,

3903
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Speaker 1: so to speak, and they can weather that sixteen game

3904
03:15:15,640 --> 03:15:17,840
Speaker 1: season storm a little bit better than the rest of

3905
03:15:17,879 --> 03:15:19,880
Speaker 1: the league. All Right, we'll hear from We'll hear from

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien in the next Segmentum, what does he think

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Speaker 1: Thirty two consecutive days of Texans coverage. That is a

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Speaker 1: I would say, in terms of covering a topic on

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Speaker 1: Thirty two straight thirty two straight days of Yeah. Absolutely absolutely,

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Speaker 1: We're pumped up. We can't wait for the season to

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Speaker 1: get here. September the tenth, the Texans are slated to

4001
03:21:21,879 --> 03:21:26,520
Speaker 1: open against the Kansas City Chiefs. Questions probably abounding now

4002
03:21:26,920 --> 03:21:29,680
Speaker 1: is to whether or not the protests that have gone

4003
03:21:29,720 --> 03:21:33,720
Speaker 1: on in basketball, in baseball at practice right now for

4004
03:21:33,800 --> 03:21:36,880
Speaker 1: the NFL, for some teams, if those bleed into the

4005
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Speaker 1: regular season. Bill O'Brien was asked about that by John

4006
03:21:39,800 --> 03:21:42,120
Speaker 1: McClean earlier today, and here's what the Texans head coach

4007
03:21:42,160 --> 03:21:46,000
Speaker 1: had to say. We've had some good discussions. You know,

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03:21:46,040 --> 03:21:48,480
Speaker 1: I would say anything's possible, you know, I think that

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03:21:49,600 --> 03:21:53,320
Speaker 1: just speaking for the Houston Texans, really proud of these

4010
03:21:53,360 --> 03:21:55,039
Speaker 1: guys that are on our team. We have a lot

4011
03:21:55,120 --> 03:22:00,680
Speaker 1: of really good veteran guys that are really passionate about football,

4012
03:22:00,840 --> 03:22:04,760
Speaker 1: really passionate about what's going on in the world. Um.

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03:22:05,680 --> 03:22:08,720
Speaker 1: The thing that the thing that really uh strikes me.

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03:22:09,560 --> 03:22:11,640
Speaker 1: You know, as a coach, you're always in a rush, right,

4015
03:22:11,680 --> 03:22:13,840
Speaker 1: you want to like, you're always in a r you

4016
03:22:13,920 --> 03:22:15,760
Speaker 1: want to make sure everything's going well, and you're you're

4017
03:22:15,800 --> 03:22:17,440
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're thinking about the next day, the

4018
03:22:17,520 --> 03:22:21,000
Speaker 1: next play, the next three plays from that. But these players,

4019
03:22:21,120 --> 03:22:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're not in a rush. Our players,

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03:22:23,760 --> 03:22:26,720
Speaker 1: Our players are really thoughtful. They want to they want

4021
03:22:26,720 --> 03:22:29,720
Speaker 1: to think about things. They they don't want to rush

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03:22:30,800 --> 03:22:34,080
Speaker 1: to make any decisions on anything. It's just been has

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03:22:34,120 --> 03:22:39,119
Speaker 1: been really enlightening for me. Um today in the squad meeting,

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03:22:39,200 --> 03:22:41,720
Speaker 1: we we we um, we had a good squad meeting

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03:22:41,800 --> 03:22:44,360
Speaker 1: and Um, you know, we'll see how it goes John,

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03:22:44,400 --> 03:22:46,400
Speaker 1: But you know, I wouldn't be able to make any predictions.

4027
03:22:46,440 --> 03:22:48,520
Speaker 1: I just know that our team's going to practice today,

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03:22:48,600 --> 03:22:51,160
Speaker 1: and our team, you know, we feel good about where

4029
03:22:51,160 --> 03:22:52,880
Speaker 1: we're at after the scrimmage, and we're just gonna keep

4030
03:22:52,879 --> 03:22:55,320
Speaker 1: plugging away. So that's O'Brien there, Clint. I think I

4031
03:22:55,400 --> 03:22:58,680
Speaker 1: think Bill O'Brien is in many ways the perfect head

4032
03:22:58,720 --> 03:23:01,840
Speaker 1: coach to be handling something like this with this team,

4033
03:23:01,879 --> 03:23:03,760
Speaker 1: and I think for a couple of reasons. I think,

4034
03:23:04,920 --> 03:23:07,280
Speaker 1: first of all, I think he feels pretty passionately about

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03:23:07,320 --> 03:23:10,000
Speaker 1: this as a topic racial equality. We remember that day

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03:23:10,080 --> 03:23:13,200
Speaker 1: that he that he UH did his It was like

4037
03:23:13,280 --> 03:23:17,200
Speaker 1: a ten or eleven minute zoom um, almost like a

4038
03:23:17,320 --> 03:23:20,720
Speaker 1: speech in the media, where he talked about the different

4039
03:23:20,760 --> 03:23:23,039
Speaker 1: things he had been reading and the conversations he'd been

4040
03:23:23,080 --> 03:23:26,520
Speaker 1: having internally. We remember back to twenty seventeen where he

4041
03:23:26,760 --> 03:23:31,600
Speaker 1: was supportive of the players when the players took issue

4042
03:23:31,800 --> 03:23:34,959
Speaker 1: with something that the Bob McNair, the late Bob McNair

4043
03:23:35,040 --> 03:23:38,840
Speaker 1: had said that year, um that I think was misconstrued,

4044
03:23:39,000 --> 03:23:41,360
Speaker 1: but but it was. It was a it was a

4045
03:23:41,440 --> 03:23:43,480
Speaker 1: trying time for the stream in the locker room at

4046
03:23:43,520 --> 03:23:47,600
Speaker 1: the time. Um O'Brien handles. I think adversity like this

4047
03:23:48,320 --> 03:23:52,600
Speaker 1: really well, like the locker room stuff, the relationship based stuff.

4048
03:23:52,640 --> 03:23:54,480
Speaker 1: And I know there's probably some people like, well, you know,

4049
03:23:54,560 --> 03:23:57,440
Speaker 1: he he didn't DeAndre Hopkins said he didn't have a

4050
03:23:57,520 --> 03:23:59,480
Speaker 1: relationship with him, and it didn't seem like he really

4051
03:23:59,520 --> 03:24:01,760
Speaker 1: liked you have on Clowney very much, and that those

4052
03:24:01,840 --> 03:24:04,560
Speaker 1: things may very well be true. This is a different

4053
03:24:04,720 --> 03:24:07,920
Speaker 1: type of relationship player coach type of thing though, than

4054
03:24:08,000 --> 03:24:10,840
Speaker 1: just what are your practice habits? You know, this is

4055
03:24:10,920 --> 03:24:14,320
Speaker 1: something where these players are looking for a coach and

4056
03:24:14,480 --> 03:24:16,840
Speaker 1: an owner, you know, in management, the whole thing that's

4057
03:24:16,840 --> 03:24:18,840
Speaker 1: going to have their back in a completely different kind

4058
03:24:18,879 --> 03:24:21,400
Speaker 1: of way. And I just think I feel like Bill

4059
03:24:21,440 --> 03:24:24,520
Speaker 1: O'Brien is somebody who navigates these types of waters really

4060
03:24:24,600 --> 03:24:26,320
Speaker 1: really well. He was. He was the head coach at

4061
03:24:26,360 --> 03:24:29,840
Speaker 1: Penn State after they got walloped by NCAA sanctions for

4062
03:24:29,920 --> 03:24:32,680
Speaker 1: some of the worst stuff ever and put a winning

4063
03:24:32,680 --> 03:24:36,160
Speaker 1: football team on the field. I think like any head coach.

4064
03:24:36,240 --> 03:24:38,959
Speaker 1: I think there's you know, there's some things he does

4065
03:24:39,240 --> 03:24:41,640
Speaker 1: better than other things. I think this particular thing is

4066
03:24:41,680 --> 03:24:44,560
Speaker 1: something that fits his skill set as a coach really,

4067
03:24:44,600 --> 03:24:46,800
Speaker 1: really well. I think Bill O'Brien has done a great

4068
03:24:46,920 --> 03:24:49,480
Speaker 1: job of towing the line. I don't know if that's

4069
03:24:49,520 --> 03:24:52,440
Speaker 1: the right phrase, but but he's he's done. I heard

4070
03:24:52,480 --> 03:24:54,800
Speaker 1: him talk about time. I don't know, it's probably a moment.

4071
03:24:55,080 --> 03:24:56,800
Speaker 1: Time runs to good days run together. It's twenty a

4072
03:24:56,840 --> 03:25:00,480
Speaker 1: month ago and Bill O'Brien said something that immediately stopped

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03:25:00,480 --> 03:25:03,160
Speaker 1: me in the true in my tracks. And he alluded

4074
03:25:03,240 --> 03:25:06,960
Speaker 1: to the fact that the old school coaches and the

4075
03:25:07,080 --> 03:25:10,960
Speaker 1: way that they approached the game. He said, those days

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03:25:11,000 --> 03:25:14,680
Speaker 1: are over. Man. You know, these these players have a voice,

4077
03:25:14,720 --> 03:25:17,720
Speaker 1: they have a platform. And I don't remember exactly the

4078
03:25:17,840 --> 03:25:19,960
Speaker 1: timing and what he was talking about, but when he

4079
03:25:20,160 --> 03:25:23,600
Speaker 1: said that, and when you couple that with the fact

4080
03:25:23,680 --> 03:25:28,520
Speaker 1: that that Bill O'Brien's cut from the the Bill Belichick

4081
03:25:28,600 --> 03:25:31,440
Speaker 1: tree comes out of the Parcels tree, and those are

4082
03:25:31,520 --> 03:25:34,320
Speaker 1: old school dudes that do it the old school way.

4083
03:25:34,920 --> 03:25:37,560
Speaker 1: And to hear Bill O'Brien say, hey, man, them days

4084
03:25:37,600 --> 03:25:42,160
Speaker 1: are over, it just told me immediately that, Hey, Bill

4085
03:25:42,240 --> 03:25:44,800
Speaker 1: O'Brien is evolving with time. He's not one of those

4086
03:25:44,840 --> 03:25:47,800
Speaker 1: coaches that's gonna get left behind because of, you know,

4087
03:25:47,879 --> 03:25:50,040
Speaker 1: the way that he used to do things and because

4088
03:25:50,120 --> 03:25:52,600
Speaker 1: he's stuck in that rut of doing things the old way.

4089
03:25:53,040 --> 03:25:56,040
Speaker 1: He's evolving with these times, and I immediately thought that

4090
03:25:56,160 --> 03:25:57,840
Speaker 1: this is a guy that gets it. He's not just

4091
03:25:57,959 --> 03:26:01,600
Speaker 1: a great football coach, but he clearly gets how you

4092
03:26:01,760 --> 03:26:06,720
Speaker 1: have to handle these types of issues. And obviously he's

4093
03:26:06,760 --> 03:26:09,840
Speaker 1: been tried more times than he would probably like to

4094
03:26:10,400 --> 03:26:12,320
Speaker 1: have been tried in a sense of so many different

4095
03:26:12,320 --> 03:26:15,240
Speaker 1: things around our country happening. But yeah, Sean, I mean

4096
03:26:15,320 --> 03:26:18,360
Speaker 1: he's handling it. He's handling it as well, if not

4097
03:26:18,560 --> 03:26:21,760
Speaker 1: better than any head coach across the league. And so

4098
03:26:22,360 --> 03:26:25,800
Speaker 1: definitely salute Bill O'Brien for the way he's handled that.

4099
03:26:25,959 --> 03:26:29,280
Speaker 1: And I think the Texans as an organization, including the players,

4100
03:26:29,840 --> 03:26:35,200
Speaker 1: will handle things as well as possible moving forward. I

4101
03:26:35,200 --> 03:26:38,200
Speaker 1: got I got supreme confidence that they'll handle things right

4102
03:26:38,240 --> 03:26:41,119
Speaker 1: moving forward. Yeah. Conveniently today, one of the two players

4103
03:26:41,160 --> 03:26:43,520
Speaker 1: that was chosen to meet with the media today was

4104
03:26:43,600 --> 03:26:48,520
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, the safety special teamer who has been part

4105
03:26:48,560 --> 03:26:52,080
Speaker 1: of the kneeling protests during the national anthem going back

4106
03:26:52,200 --> 03:26:57,240
Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen, and he was asked about the same thing,

4107
03:26:57,440 --> 03:26:59,800
Speaker 1: what are the chances that there is a some sort

4108
03:26:59,800 --> 03:27:03,840
Speaker 1: of protest that affects Week one of the regular season,

4109
03:27:03,920 --> 03:27:06,280
Speaker 1: the game with the Chiefs and the Texans. And here

4110
03:27:06,400 --> 03:27:09,080
Speaker 1: is what Michael Thomas had to say, as of right now,

4111
03:27:09,360 --> 03:27:12,960
Speaker 1: we're all in a situation where we're like, hey, how

4112
03:27:13,040 --> 03:27:15,120
Speaker 1: can we use our voice in our platform to have

4113
03:27:15,280 --> 03:27:19,960
Speaker 1: the greatest impact? Is that approaching the team owners the

4114
03:27:20,000 --> 03:27:22,680
Speaker 1: team president saying, hey, you have great contacts when it

4115
03:27:22,800 --> 03:27:24,960
Speaker 1: comes to you know, Congress, and when it comes to

4116
03:27:25,080 --> 03:27:26,880
Speaker 1: the you know, the state legislators and governors or whatever,

4117
03:27:27,000 --> 03:27:29,480
Speaker 1: those who have the power and ability to change these

4118
03:27:29,560 --> 03:27:31,320
Speaker 1: laws that need to be changed in order for us

4119
03:27:31,320 --> 03:27:33,879
Speaker 1: to have real change when it comes to you know, uh,

4120
03:27:34,200 --> 03:27:36,120
Speaker 1: not police reform, but you know, trying trying to make

4121
03:27:36,160 --> 03:27:39,240
Speaker 1: sure that we don't have instances where you know, Jacob

4122
03:27:39,240 --> 03:27:41,080
Speaker 1: Blake is getting shot. Sometimes in the back end, there's

4123
03:27:41,240 --> 03:27:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, no type of justice forward where you know

4124
03:27:43,360 --> 03:27:46,320
Speaker 1: there's George Floord, Brianna Taylor, Matt Aubrey. You know, I'm saying,

4125
03:27:46,400 --> 03:27:49,199
Speaker 1: these are the people that have the ability to affect change.

4126
03:27:49,240 --> 03:27:51,560
Speaker 1: So if there's a way that we can use our platform,

4127
03:27:51,959 --> 03:27:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, that first Thursday night game, it's going to

4128
03:27:54,760 --> 03:27:56,840
Speaker 1: be huge. If we can work with the Chiefs and say, hey,

4129
03:27:57,080 --> 03:27:59,680
Speaker 1: can the mcmare family and the family help us, you know,

4130
03:28:00,000 --> 03:28:02,080
Speaker 1: how to rease those who have the power to make

4131
03:28:02,160 --> 03:28:04,199
Speaker 1: changes in the past these loss then you know, maybe

4132
03:28:04,240 --> 03:28:07,440
Speaker 1: we do that. But to say that the players aren't

4133
03:28:07,480 --> 03:28:09,920
Speaker 1: thinking about, hey, is the best thing to do to

4134
03:28:09,959 --> 03:28:12,160
Speaker 1: play or not play? You know, those are definitely discussing

4135
03:28:12,200 --> 03:28:14,240
Speaker 1: that are happening. Clint. I'll say this, I have no

4136
03:28:14,320 --> 03:28:15,760
Speaker 1: idea if that game is going to take place on

4137
03:28:15,840 --> 03:28:17,800
Speaker 1: September tenth. If I were to bet, I would bet

4138
03:28:17,920 --> 03:28:19,920
Speaker 1: yes that it's going to take place. But to me,

4139
03:28:20,200 --> 03:28:24,119
Speaker 1: anything is possible in twenty twenty, Like when those games

4140
03:28:24,160 --> 03:28:27,400
Speaker 1: started getting canceled on Wednesday in the NBA, I was going, Wow,

4141
03:28:27,480 --> 03:28:28,880
Speaker 1: this is one of the this is one of the

4142
03:28:28,959 --> 03:28:31,560
Speaker 1: craziest things I've ever seen. You know, this is wild,

4143
03:28:31,720 --> 03:28:35,000
Speaker 1: like like these are playoff basketball games that are that

4144
03:28:35,120 --> 03:28:37,600
Speaker 1: are being canceled for this, And you know, the players

4145
03:28:37,680 --> 03:28:40,920
Speaker 1: got the owners attentions and the owner's attention, and I

4146
03:28:40,959 --> 03:28:43,600
Speaker 1: think that was their goal was to get further alignment

4147
03:28:43,640 --> 03:28:46,440
Speaker 1: and more help and trying to further some of their causes.

4148
03:28:46,959 --> 03:28:49,920
Speaker 1: I think the NFL, in particular the Chiefs and the Texans,

4149
03:28:49,959 --> 03:28:52,920
Speaker 1: because they play on an island, they are playing Thursday night,

4150
03:28:53,200 --> 03:28:57,040
Speaker 1: three days before anybody else is playing. I do think

4151
03:28:57,080 --> 03:29:01,920
Speaker 1: the timing is beneficial to them, and they won't they

4152
03:29:02,000 --> 03:29:04,720
Speaker 1: won't be reactive like the NBA owners had to be.

4153
03:29:05,120 --> 03:29:08,080
Speaker 1: They can now watch what went on with the NBA

4154
03:29:09,160 --> 03:29:11,160
Speaker 1: to a degree, what's been going on with baseball as

4155
03:29:11,200 --> 03:29:14,200
Speaker 1: well other sports, and they can now be proactive and

4156
03:29:14,240 --> 03:29:15,560
Speaker 1: be out in front of us and say, well, okay,

4157
03:29:15,600 --> 03:29:18,440
Speaker 1: what you know you what is it that you guys want?

4158
03:29:19,360 --> 03:29:22,560
Speaker 1: Where is it that we can help all with the

4159
03:29:22,720 --> 03:29:25,520
Speaker 1: idea of a helping first and foremost, but be the

4160
03:29:25,640 --> 03:29:28,080
Speaker 1: secondary thing being let's make sure we get our game

4161
03:29:28,160 --> 03:29:30,880
Speaker 1: on the field, because it's one thing to postpone a

4162
03:29:30,920 --> 03:29:32,600
Speaker 1: baseball game where you can just throw it in the

4163
03:29:32,680 --> 03:29:35,080
Speaker 1: next day and do a doubleheader like the Astros are today,

4164
03:29:35,200 --> 03:29:37,800
Speaker 1: like we're canceled Friday, we'll play, let's play two tomorrow,

4165
03:29:38,160 --> 03:29:40,680
Speaker 1: or the NBA playoffs where they're just basically taking where

4166
03:29:40,720 --> 03:29:43,720
Speaker 1: they were on Wednesday and just hitting restart and they're

4167
03:29:43,720 --> 03:29:45,600
Speaker 1: starting where they were on Wednesday, and they keep playing.

4168
03:29:46,280 --> 03:29:48,280
Speaker 1: There's this is one of sixteen games. You're not gonna

4169
03:29:48,280 --> 03:29:49,800
Speaker 1: think to play the Chiefs again. What are you going

4170
03:29:49,840 --> 03:29:51,520
Speaker 1: to schedule that game for? You know what I mean?

4171
03:29:51,840 --> 03:29:53,800
Speaker 1: And I get it. People are gonna go, well, there's

4172
03:29:53,840 --> 03:29:55,840
Speaker 1: this is bigger than sports, and it's you know, you're

4173
03:29:55,840 --> 03:29:58,440
Speaker 1: talking about scheduling a game versus people getting killed. And

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Speaker 1: you've got sixteen of them, it'd be difficult to reschedule them.

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Speaker 1: I think the players, given the fact they have time,

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Speaker 1: Texans Training Camp Special. They have let's see one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: three practices left I believe today was practice eleven. They

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Speaker 1: They are going to scrimmage again on Wednesday, according to

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, and then that'll be it. That'll be you

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll be picking a fifty three man roster here

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Speaker 1: pretty soon now if it's anything like last year. And

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Speaker 1: I don't anticipate this being the case, but last year

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Speaker 1: on August thirty first, which is Monday, so it was

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Speaker 1: really like a year in a way. It was kind

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Speaker 1: of a year ago today because it was on a Saturday,

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Speaker 1: but it was August thirty first, Saturday, August thirty, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: That was really the first day that we felt, okay,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely a new general manager for this football team.

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Speaker 1: If you remember, that was a day that the Texans

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Speaker 1: traded a first restaurunt pick and I'm sorry, two first

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Speaker 1: round picks and a second round pick, along with some

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Speaker 1: other secondary assets to the Dolphins for Laramie Tunsel and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Stills. They traded Jadevi and Clowney along with half

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Speaker 1: his salary, to the Seattle Seahawks for Jacob Martin, Barkievious Mango,

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Speaker 1: and a third round pick that they eventually flipped into

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Speaker 1: Gary and Conley at the trade deadline. Last year, they

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Speaker 1: also had some lower level trades. I say lower level trades.

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Speaker 1: You got your leading rusher out of one of them.

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Speaker 1: Carlos Hide came over in a deal for Martinez ranking

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Speaker 1: and then Keion Crossing for a six round pick, and

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Speaker 1: Crossing has been a nice performer on special teams for

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Speaker 1: this team. So four big trades that were made um

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Speaker 1: and then you know, earlier in the summer they had

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Speaker 1: conditional third round pick. But this was the day, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this was the day Clint where it was almost Bill

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Speaker 1: O'Brien kind of in a way announcing his presence with authority,

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Speaker 1: like no, this we're reshaping this roster. And that's a process.

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Speaker 1: It has continued into this offseason, like he is not

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Speaker 1: sitting idly by and going, okay, well ten and six

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Speaker 1: last year, we'll just we'll run it back. He's not

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Speaker 1: a running back guy. This just in Bill O'Brien not

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Speaker 1: a running back guy. And you know what, you know

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Speaker 1: how I feel about run it back guys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're not a running back, not a run it back guy. Man.

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Speaker 1: I like to hey, if something ain't working, man, let's

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Speaker 1: adjust and give it another shot. But that whole run

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Speaker 1: it back stuff, it's got to be an awfully good group,

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Speaker 1: an awfully good product on the field to be a

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Speaker 1: running back guy. I'm gonna ask you the same thing

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Speaker 1: I asked Seth Payne. Are there any of those deals

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Speaker 1: that Bill O'Brien would like to do over if he

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Speaker 1: were given the chance. Tunsil trade, Clowney trade, the high

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Speaker 1: He's a seahawk now. But still we can talk about that,

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Speaker 1: and then the crossing trade, sort of a lower level.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a I think there's a debate to

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Speaker 1: round picks. Hey, man, look, those guys are crapshoots. Man.

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Speaker 1: You don't ever know what you're gonna get. You don't

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Speaker 1: And when you can get a lockdown left tackle, go

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Speaker 1: one that there's a debate there, Sean simply because you

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Speaker 1: mean you look at it and you go, man, if

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it and you go that

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Speaker 1: pretty damn good move by Bill O'Brien. Whether you're looking

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4381
03:41:40,240 --> 03:41:42,520
Speaker 1: by the organization. Yeah, I think that the gap has

4382
03:41:42,640 --> 03:41:44,879
Speaker 1: narrowed on the Clowney for sure. I mean the Clowney

4383
03:41:44,879 --> 03:41:47,080
Speaker 1: trade looked really lopsided the day that you made it.

4384
03:41:47,200 --> 03:41:50,600
Speaker 1: And you're right, Jacob Martin turning into something other than

4385
03:41:50,640 --> 03:41:54,760
Speaker 1: a guy you're throwing in obvious passing situations, Yeah, is

4386
03:41:55,440 --> 03:41:58,200
Speaker 1: imperative for you to try to try to continue to

4387
03:41:58,240 --> 03:42:00,360
Speaker 1: close the gap on that deal. Kansas City. He just

4388
03:42:00,480 --> 03:42:03,600
Speaker 1: absolutely torched Jacob Martin last year when he was when

4389
03:42:03,640 --> 03:42:05,360
Speaker 1: he was out there on the field in that playoff game,

4390
03:42:05,400 --> 03:42:08,480
Speaker 1: because that's all he could do was rush the past.

4391
03:42:08,560 --> 03:42:10,960
Speaker 1: Or hopefully he's something different now. John Harris talked about

4392
03:42:10,959 --> 03:42:13,160
Speaker 1: that a little bit earlier with us. Of all the

4393
03:42:13,200 --> 03:42:15,000
Speaker 1: things with the Clowney trade. Two things I think with

4394
03:42:15,080 --> 03:42:16,560
Speaker 1: the Clowney trade Clinton, and I don't want to get

4395
03:42:16,560 --> 03:42:20,800
Speaker 1: your thoughts, but one I think that it that it

4396
03:42:20,920 --> 03:42:23,920
Speaker 1: got that far. Let me back up. I don't think

4397
03:42:24,000 --> 03:42:26,040
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien would have wanted to do a franchise tag

4398
03:42:26,080 --> 03:42:27,800
Speaker 1: on Clowney. I think that was a Brian game thing.

4399
03:42:27,959 --> 03:42:30,440
Speaker 1: And I think once the franchise tag was on Clowney

4400
03:42:31,080 --> 03:42:34,080
Speaker 1: then and it got past the draft, it's one thing

4401
03:42:34,120 --> 03:42:36,640
Speaker 1: to franchise him and you try to move him before

4402
03:42:36,640 --> 03:42:39,000
Speaker 1: the draft. It's another one, you franchise him, and then

4403
03:42:39,120 --> 03:42:43,360
Speaker 1: now you're now you're into June and July and you're

4404
03:42:43,360 --> 03:42:45,600
Speaker 1: starting to lose your leverage. That's one the one thing,

4405
03:42:45,680 --> 03:42:47,360
Speaker 1: but the Clowney trade that is always just a real

4406
03:42:47,440 --> 03:42:50,120
Speaker 1: head scratcher to me and slightly frustrating. I guess it's

4407
03:42:50,160 --> 03:42:52,560
Speaker 1: not my money, but whatever is that they paid half

4408
03:42:52,640 --> 03:42:54,920
Speaker 1: his salary, you know what I mean? You felt like

4409
03:42:55,360 --> 03:42:57,720
Speaker 1: they got to, you know, kind of like the deal

4410
03:42:57,840 --> 03:42:59,680
Speaker 1: was almost done and then the Seahawks are like, wait,

4411
03:43:00,080 --> 03:43:03,280
Speaker 1: there's more, you know, like you know, like if someone

4412
03:43:03,280 --> 03:43:04,920
Speaker 1: who would want to do a deal this badly would

4413
03:43:04,959 --> 03:43:06,840
Speaker 1: probably also want to pay a half his salary. I

4414
03:43:06,879 --> 03:43:10,519
Speaker 1: would imagine, Yeah, there's a there's a couple of aspects

4415
03:43:10,600 --> 03:43:13,600
Speaker 1: to that move that that are they're head scratchers, there's

4416
03:43:13,640 --> 03:43:16,040
Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, I think the biggest thing to

4417
03:43:16,120 --> 03:43:18,959
Speaker 1: me sean that that keeps me from going, hell, yeah

4418
03:43:19,000 --> 03:43:22,320
Speaker 1: it was a good move, is there's no debating that

4419
03:43:22,879 --> 03:43:27,720
Speaker 1: Jadevion Clowney would have been much more disruptive when JJ

4420
03:43:27,879 --> 03:43:30,560
Speaker 1: Watt got hurt. He's he's more of a standalone piece

4421
03:43:30,680 --> 03:43:33,879
Speaker 1: in a defense, and the Texans severely missed that one

4422
03:43:33,959 --> 03:43:38,520
Speaker 1: standalone piece last year when when um JJ Watt went down,

4423
03:43:39,160 --> 03:43:42,160
Speaker 1: and so just that aspect of it of they don't

4424
03:43:42,280 --> 03:43:45,240
Speaker 1: have that guy. And I think last season in twenty nineteen,

4425
03:43:45,800 --> 03:43:48,560
Speaker 1: when JJ went down, you there was a glare. It

4426
03:43:48,680 --> 03:43:51,959
Speaker 1: was obvious that you that you were missing that caliber player.

4427
03:43:52,440 --> 03:43:54,600
Speaker 1: And and so I think if they were ever to find,

4428
03:43:54,680 --> 03:43:57,160
Speaker 1: like like if if JJ can stay healthy and a

4429
03:43:57,280 --> 03:44:01,440
Speaker 1: combination of Jacob Martin and Whitney Merciless can have really

4430
03:44:01,520 --> 03:44:06,360
Speaker 1: good years and productive years statistically productive years, that I

4431
03:44:06,520 --> 03:44:08,600
Speaker 1: think it would be water under the bridge. But until

4432
03:44:08,680 --> 03:44:11,680
Speaker 1: that happens, man, it's hard for me to view that

4433
03:44:11,879 --> 03:44:15,360
Speaker 1: is a good move when you just you don't have

4434
03:44:15,480 --> 03:44:18,240
Speaker 1: anybody that compares to him in that number two slot

4435
03:44:18,440 --> 03:44:20,640
Speaker 1: next to JJ Wat. I like the high trade. I

4436
03:44:20,760 --> 03:44:22,119
Speaker 1: liked it at the time, and I like it even

4437
03:44:22,200 --> 03:44:24,120
Speaker 1: better after you rushed for a thousand yards, but you

4438
03:44:24,160 --> 03:44:26,160
Speaker 1: were gonna cut Martinez rank, and now ranking might end

4439
03:44:26,240 --> 03:44:28,040
Speaker 1: up being a player. He was starting for the Chiefs

4440
03:44:28,080 --> 03:44:29,960
Speaker 1: before he hurt his knee. He could be that too.

4441
03:44:30,000 --> 03:44:31,440
Speaker 1: He could be somebody who gets hurt all the time.

4442
03:44:31,680 --> 03:44:33,039
Speaker 1: You know, he was hurt when he was here too.

4443
03:44:33,640 --> 03:44:35,800
Speaker 1: But the Carl's high trade is good you know, the

4444
03:44:35,879 --> 03:44:38,200
Speaker 1: keyon Crossing trade is a trade for a guy who's

4445
03:44:38,280 --> 03:44:40,360
Speaker 1: just you know, he's a he's an energy guy on

4446
03:44:40,480 --> 03:44:43,480
Speaker 1: special teams. Six round pick. I'm fine the Tounsil trades

4447
03:44:43,520 --> 03:44:45,879
Speaker 1: obviously the big one. The key to that one will

4448
03:44:45,920 --> 03:44:48,840
Speaker 1: be the Texans. The Texans need to play well this

4449
03:44:49,000 --> 03:44:51,520
Speaker 1: year for that one to be worth for that one

4450
03:44:51,600 --> 03:44:53,640
Speaker 1: to be less of a debate, because if the Dolphins

4451
03:44:53,680 --> 03:44:55,959
Speaker 1: are getting the twenty eighth pick in the first round

4452
03:44:56,720 --> 03:44:59,400
Speaker 1: and not the ninth pick in the first round, it's

4453
03:44:59,440 --> 03:45:01,720
Speaker 1: a different it's a different tenor to that trade. I

4454
03:45:01,800 --> 03:45:03,600
Speaker 1: think of O'Brien had anything to do over with the

4455
03:45:03,680 --> 03:45:05,800
Speaker 1: Clowney trade, it would it wouldn't be the trade itself,

4456
03:45:06,200 --> 03:45:09,160
Speaker 1: it would be the entire process going back to March

4457
03:45:09,240 --> 03:45:11,600
Speaker 1: with Cloud agreed one hundred percent that that that's the

4458
03:45:12,040 --> 03:45:14,840
Speaker 1: elephant in the room, that's, you know, the negative light

4459
03:45:14,920 --> 03:45:17,200
Speaker 1: shined on as the process. Now, there is one thing

4460
03:45:17,280 --> 03:45:20,080
Speaker 1: which I didn't I didn't connect the dots of the

4461
03:45:20,879 --> 03:45:23,840
Speaker 1: pick that came in the Clowney trade ended up getting

4462
03:45:23,840 --> 03:45:26,959
Speaker 1: flipped for Gary On Connley. Gary On Connley is another

4463
03:45:27,040 --> 03:45:30,120
Speaker 1: guy that I'm already high on in a sense of

4464
03:45:30,200 --> 03:45:32,680
Speaker 1: I've seen enough that he's a good number two. Um.

4465
03:45:33,160 --> 03:45:36,320
Speaker 1: And but if he goes in and put sixteen games together,

4466
03:45:36,400 --> 03:45:37,800
Speaker 1: where we all look and go, hey man, that's a

4467
03:45:37,840 --> 03:45:40,680
Speaker 1: pretty good number two corner on the Texans. And he

4468
03:45:40,720 --> 03:45:44,080
Speaker 1: allows Lonnie Johnson to be used as as that utility

4469
03:45:44,160 --> 03:45:46,280
Speaker 1: player in and around the line of scrimmage. I mean,

4470
03:45:46,400 --> 03:45:49,760
Speaker 1: that's that is a valuable, valuable part. So if you

4471
03:45:50,040 --> 03:45:52,920
Speaker 1: if you kick in Jacob Martin and gary On Connley

4472
03:45:53,040 --> 03:45:56,680
Speaker 1: or two of your I don't know newcomers type are

4473
03:45:56,800 --> 03:45:59,240
Speaker 1: are you know guys that you just didn't that do

4474
03:45:59,400 --> 03:46:02,400
Speaker 1: more than you ever were expected. That that makes that

4475
03:46:02,680 --> 03:46:04,840
Speaker 1: Clowney trade a little bit more debatable as well. Well.

4476
03:46:04,840 --> 03:46:07,560
Speaker 1: If Connley's a capable starting corner in the NFL, that's

4477
03:46:07,560 --> 03:46:10,160
Speaker 1: a big asset, you know. And he was a capable

4478
03:46:10,200 --> 03:46:12,240
Speaker 1: starting corner of the second half of last season. He

4479
03:46:12,400 --> 03:46:15,440
Speaker 1: was he was improved for this team. Second, I mean

4480
03:46:15,480 --> 03:46:18,240
Speaker 1: I stole your I stole your information about the secondary

4481
03:46:18,320 --> 03:46:21,200
Speaker 1: a year ago. I mean it was who was it?

4482
03:46:21,520 --> 03:46:25,560
Speaker 1: It was Bradley Yet Opening Day, brad Ian Day. Well, no,

4483
03:46:25,600 --> 03:46:28,520
Speaker 1: it's Jonathan Joseph, Aaron Colvin and Bradley Ray were the

4484
03:46:28,560 --> 03:46:30,680
Speaker 1: top three. Yeah, and now you look at it, and

4485
03:46:30,720 --> 03:46:32,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about them being eight deep of guys that

4486
03:46:32,879 --> 03:46:36,039
Speaker 1: can contribute. Yeah, and and they're better in the top three.

4487
03:46:36,160 --> 03:46:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean. So my point was was not only or

4488
03:46:38,680 --> 03:46:40,720
Speaker 1: if those guys are players, not only do you look

4489
03:46:40,760 --> 03:46:42,520
Speaker 1: at them and go, well, you got some production out

4490
03:46:42,560 --> 03:46:45,040
Speaker 1: of Jacob Martin and Gary on Conley. But I believe

4491
03:46:45,080 --> 03:46:48,000
Speaker 1: if you look back twelve months ago, the secondary was

4492
03:46:48,080 --> 03:46:50,360
Speaker 1: in shambles in a sense of being able to last

4493
03:46:50,400 --> 03:46:54,680
Speaker 1: throughout sixteen games. And if you look back eight months ago,

4494
03:46:55,040 --> 03:46:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how hell when was the Kansas City

4495
03:46:56,600 --> 03:46:58,920
Speaker 1: playoff loss was? It was eight months ago, January, middle

4496
03:46:58,920 --> 03:47:01,080
Speaker 1: of January. So yeah, a little elf you look back

4497
03:47:01,120 --> 03:47:03,320
Speaker 1: eight months ago in the in the pass rush was

4498
03:47:03,400 --> 03:47:05,520
Speaker 1: non existent and had some big time problems. So if

4499
03:47:05,560 --> 03:47:08,720
Speaker 1: those two guys answer the two biggest glaring problems on

4500
03:47:08,800 --> 03:47:11,560
Speaker 1: your defense, or they help answer those glaring problems, it

4501
03:47:11,680 --> 03:47:13,800
Speaker 1: was a pretty damn good move. Yeah. Yeah, well we'll

4502
03:47:13,840 --> 03:47:17,920
Speaker 1: see um the Texans training camp special Sean Pendergas Clint

4503
03:47:17,959 --> 03:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Stirner with you. It got me thinking too, Clint, that

4504
03:47:21,360 --> 03:47:24,160
Speaker 1: that was a major facelift for the Texans in the

4505
03:47:25,080 --> 03:47:28,320
Speaker 1: offensive line. It's solidified the offensive line you know, the

4506
03:47:28,600 --> 03:47:31,800
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsel made Max Sharping a better player by playing

4507
03:47:31,879 --> 03:47:35,720
Speaker 1: next to him. Um it. I would imagine having Laramie

4508
03:47:35,720 --> 03:47:37,920
Speaker 1: Tunsel there probably helps tight As Howard in some ways

4509
03:47:37,920 --> 03:47:39,360
Speaker 1: in that room. So you got a really good young

4510
03:47:39,440 --> 03:47:42,800
Speaker 1: set of book end tackles. So you have the Texans

4511
03:47:43,240 --> 03:47:46,840
Speaker 1: who their facelift a year ago. Just look at one

4512
03:47:46,959 --> 03:47:49,320
Speaker 1: year ago on all four teams in the AFC South

4513
03:47:49,680 --> 03:47:53,800
Speaker 1: and think about how the shape of those teams have

4514
03:47:53,920 --> 03:47:56,640
Speaker 1: all changed in a year in that the Texans made

4515
03:47:56,680 --> 03:47:59,879
Speaker 1: the Tunsel deal that solidified the offensive line, They solidify

4516
03:48:00,120 --> 03:48:02,120
Speaker 1: the secondary. They got better players in the secondary. We

4517
03:48:02,160 --> 03:48:03,920
Speaker 1: gotta wait and see they solidified it. They were not

4518
03:48:04,000 --> 03:48:05,720
Speaker 1: a good pass defense last year at the end of

4519
03:48:05,760 --> 03:48:07,640
Speaker 1: the year, but they had better players there. Now the

4520
03:48:07,720 --> 03:48:10,760
Speaker 1: potential is better in that secondary. They've made a bunch

4521
03:48:10,800 --> 03:48:13,080
Speaker 1: of other moves, obviously the Hopkins trade and things like that.

4522
03:48:13,320 --> 03:48:16,000
Speaker 1: It's a very different looking team over the last year.

4523
03:48:16,560 --> 03:48:19,119
Speaker 1: But that's just part for the course. In the AFC South,

4524
03:48:19,160 --> 03:48:21,560
Speaker 1: think about this. A year ago, we were a week

4525
03:48:21,680 --> 03:48:25,960
Speaker 1: removed from Andrew Luck retiring from the Colts, and now

4526
03:48:26,040 --> 03:48:29,280
Speaker 1: here we are a year later and Philip Rivers, someone

4527
03:48:29,360 --> 03:48:31,040
Speaker 1: had told you a year ago Philip Rivers would be

4528
03:48:31,040 --> 03:48:34,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback for the Colts, Like maybe maybe a little

4529
03:48:34,040 --> 03:48:35,880
Speaker 1: more that if someone had told you that the night

4530
03:48:35,959 --> 03:48:38,240
Speaker 1: before Andrew Luck retired, you know who's gonna be the

4531
03:48:38,320 --> 03:48:40,920
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Colts next year, Philip Rivers. I would

4532
03:48:40,959 --> 03:48:43,840
Speaker 1: have been more likely Philip Rivers retires than it's quarterbacking.

4533
03:48:43,879 --> 03:48:48,040
Speaker 1: Another team gets injured behind it find that civil an

4534
03:48:48,040 --> 03:48:52,400
Speaker 1: offensive line. Right, So there's that. The Jags they punted

4535
03:48:52,440 --> 03:48:55,280
Speaker 1: on Blake Bortles, they signed Nick Foles, who knew that

4536
03:48:55,440 --> 03:48:57,800
Speaker 1: neither of those guys would be their quarterback moving forward,

4537
03:48:57,840 --> 03:48:59,720
Speaker 1: At least for now, it's Gardner Minshew. I think for

4538
03:48:59,800 --> 03:49:02,160
Speaker 1: now it's somebody who's playing in college right now, probably

4539
03:49:02,200 --> 03:49:05,240
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields. But Gardner Minshew, a sixth

4540
03:49:05,320 --> 03:49:08,200
Speaker 1: round pick, is the quarter A year later, he's the quarterback.

4541
03:49:08,320 --> 03:49:10,720
Speaker 1: A year ago it was Nick Foles, and then the

4542
03:49:11,040 --> 03:49:13,520
Speaker 1: Titans it was you know, it was put up or

4543
03:49:13,520 --> 03:49:16,040
Speaker 1: shut up time for Marcus Mariota. But here we are

4544
03:49:16,040 --> 03:49:18,480
Speaker 1: a year later, and Ryan Tannehills not only the quarterback,

4545
03:49:18,560 --> 03:49:21,080
Speaker 1: he is their franchise quarterback who they are paying like

4546
03:49:21,200 --> 03:49:24,680
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. It's just been a for a division,

4547
03:49:25,120 --> 03:49:28,120
Speaker 1: for a division that had been kind of just just

4548
03:49:28,880 --> 03:49:33,520
Speaker 1: sort of, you know, just steadies the wrong word because

4549
03:49:33,520 --> 03:49:35,600
Speaker 1: it would imply that the division was good, right, they

4550
03:49:35,600 --> 03:49:38,280
Speaker 1: were just existing stale maybe stale, you know, like the

4551
03:49:38,360 --> 03:49:40,960
Speaker 1: Texans were what they were every year. You know, the

4552
03:49:41,600 --> 03:49:44,240
Speaker 1: Colts were Andrew Luck when he was healthy and then

4553
03:49:44,600 --> 03:49:46,400
Speaker 1: and then the Jags and the Titans just weren't very

4554
03:49:46,480 --> 03:49:48,400
Speaker 1: The Titans are the definition of it. Their nine and

4555
03:49:48,480 --> 03:49:50,680
Speaker 1: seven every year, you know, the last four years or

4556
03:49:50,760 --> 03:49:53,520
Speaker 1: nine and seven. But it's a really interesting division from

4557
03:49:53,560 --> 03:49:55,640
Speaker 1: a standpoint. These are all teams that have made massive

4558
03:49:55,720 --> 03:49:57,840
Speaker 1: facelifts to their team over the last year. Yeah, I

4559
03:49:57,840 --> 03:49:59,840
Speaker 1: think it's safe to say that the division that the

4560
03:50:00,160 --> 03:50:03,240
Speaker 1: level of sexy, right. I mean that on a national scale.

4561
03:50:03,240 --> 03:50:05,240
Speaker 1: If you're just sitting around and you're a you're an

4562
03:50:05,360 --> 03:50:09,280
Speaker 1: NFL guy and you like to watch professional football in

4563
03:50:09,440 --> 03:50:12,360
Speaker 1: the past, it would you ain't picking the Titans. And

4564
03:50:12,600 --> 03:50:14,960
Speaker 1: if you're not a Deshaun Watson family probably weren't picking

4565
03:50:15,000 --> 03:50:18,240
Speaker 1: the Texans until the last year or so. Um and

4566
03:50:18,960 --> 03:50:23,160
Speaker 1: damn sure wasn't. Wasn't Indianapolis and Jacksonville wasn't moving the needle.

4567
03:50:23,280 --> 03:50:25,360
Speaker 1: So they were probably at the bottom of the barrel

4568
03:50:25,400 --> 03:50:28,440
Speaker 1: to where you now you flip it on and you go, Man,

4569
03:50:28,560 --> 03:50:30,960
Speaker 1: I've got plenty of reason. Whether I'm a fan of

4570
03:50:31,040 --> 03:50:33,840
Speaker 1: these organizations or not, I've got I've got plenty of

4571
03:50:33,960 --> 03:50:36,720
Speaker 1: reason to damn sure what watch what's going on in Houston.

4572
03:50:37,080 --> 03:50:39,880
Speaker 1: But Indianapolis, I mean Indianapolis to me that they may

4573
03:50:39,960 --> 03:50:44,600
Speaker 1: be the they're the team, and it's around the entire

4574
03:50:44,760 --> 03:50:47,520
Speaker 1: NFL that I that I think if the stars aligned,

4575
03:50:47,640 --> 03:50:49,560
Speaker 1: they could make a ton of noise in the playoffs.

4576
03:50:49,920 --> 03:50:52,320
Speaker 1: But if the if the Rivers thing doesn't work out

4577
03:50:52,440 --> 03:50:55,440
Speaker 1: just right, boy, they could really they could really struggle.

4578
03:50:55,800 --> 03:50:58,520
Speaker 1: They're the mystery. That's that's where it doesn't for They're

4579
03:50:58,520 --> 03:51:01,240
Speaker 1: the mystery in the end fail for me right now,

4580
03:51:01,280 --> 03:51:05,040
Speaker 1: because they could be really, really, really good. We're probably

4581
03:51:05,120 --> 03:51:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a division this year, at least in one

4582
03:51:08,120 --> 03:51:11,520
Speaker 1: of the two conferences that sends three teams to the playoffs,

4583
03:51:11,760 --> 03:51:13,640
Speaker 1: right because there's seven teams that are going to the

4584
03:51:13,680 --> 03:51:15,920
Speaker 1: playoffs in each conference. Now, now it may not be

4585
03:51:16,040 --> 03:51:18,120
Speaker 1: that way. Maybe it's the four division winners and there's

4586
03:51:18,120 --> 03:51:20,600
Speaker 1: a wild card in three divisions and then there's only

4587
03:51:20,720 --> 03:51:22,320
Speaker 1: you know there's a division that only sends one team

4588
03:51:22,360 --> 03:51:25,600
Speaker 1: that could very well be that's obviously mathematically possible. But

4589
03:51:25,720 --> 03:51:27,280
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Speaker 1: this division isn't very strong, yeah yeah, no, no, and

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