1 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: When Tom Thumb showed up on the scene in eighteen thirty, 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: there weren't too many places to go. Back then, there 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: were only twenty three miles of railroad track in the 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: whole country, so as you can imagine, getting anywhere was 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: pretty tough. This Tom Thumb, though, wasn't P. T. Barnum's 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: famous pint size protege that we've already discussed in an 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: earlier episode. This Tom was a tiny steam engine, one 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: of the first ever to be built in America. It 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: weighed less than one ton and made its inventor, the 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: industrialist Peter Cooper, very proud and very excited. The Tom 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: Thumb steam engine was under the ownership of the Baltimore 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: and Ohio Railroad, or the B and O for short. 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: On July four, eight Charles Carroll broke the first ground 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: at the lines official commissioning. At years old, he was 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: the last living signer of the Declaration of Independence. One 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: day in eighteen thirty, Peter Cooper decided he would take 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: Tom Thumb out for a spin on the tracks near Baltimore. 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: He was out in a rail yard when a horse 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: drawn train pulled up alongside him and challenged him to 20 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: a gentlemanly drag race. Peter's engine had been known to 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: clock speeds as high as fourteen miles per hour, and 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: he wanted to test its metal. The two men lined 23 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: up with each other, sitting in parallel on their respectful steeds. 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: Paused for a moment, and then we're off to the races. 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 1: Down the tracks, they surged at what must have felt 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: like breakneck speed, although it's more likely they barely broke 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: into the double digits. Peter and his tom Thumb effortlessly 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: took the lead, but it wouldn't last. One of the 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: trains belts had broken loose, and it slowly came to 30 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: a halt. But it wasn't over yet. You see. Peter 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: may have lost this battle, but he would end up 32 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: winning the war because he had impressed some important people 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: that day, people who would be making the big decisions 34 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: for the future of the train line. The tom Thumb 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: demonstrated promise through its raw power, and the executives decided 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: that they would convert their entire railroad to steam. Horse 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: drawn cars were out. Less than a century later, those 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: twenty three miles of train lines would multiply exponentially by 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: over one thousand times. In fact, at the railroad's peak 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: in nineteen eleven, enough track had been laid throughout the country. 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: That's hypothetically speaking, it equaled the distance from the Earth 42 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: to the Moon, with miles to spare. To say that 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: the train was one of the important technological innovations to 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: ever hit American shores would be an understatement. Railroads would 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: go on to upend almost everything about life at the time. 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: They changed the way we worked, traveled, and played, and 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: those who got to be up close to them, whether 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: to ride or just look, couldn't help but marvel at 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: what the future seemed to promise. The country would never 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: be the same. Trains were becoming a spectacle, celebrities in 51 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: their own right, and sometimes so were the people who 52 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: wrote them. I'm Aaron Manky and welcome to the side show. 53 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: It was only a matter of time before their wishes 54 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: would outgrow their hawthorn tree. Jenny and Eddie Ward were 55 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: young enough to remember, but also old enough to know 56 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: that life wasn't going to be easy. Their home life 57 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: was unstable and money was always tight. Plus there was 58 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: a rotating cast of father figures, with their mother always 59 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: searching for a reliable man that could afford them a 60 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: better existence. When Eddie was in third grade, he dropped 61 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: out of school and got a job. He had to 62 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: take care of his family after all. Jenny, a few 63 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: years younger, loved her brother mightily. He was her caretaker 64 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: and her best friend, and they were inseparable. Together they 65 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: could be unafraid of whatever life through at them. On 66 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: just about any day of the year, they could be 67 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: found climbing the limbs of their hawthorn tree. They were 68 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: happiest there. At one point, Jenny and Eddie strung up 69 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: a crude trap he's made of rope and a bar. 70 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: As a parent, I am terrified just thinking about it. 71 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: They played for hours at a time, swinging and jumping 72 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: through the air, always earth bound, yes, but attempting to 73 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: defy gravity, to test physics and fate. They loved it, 74 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: and you know what, they were good at it too. 75 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: It's true that we're all products of our environment, but 76 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: one can't help but think that Jenny and Eddie had 77 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: appeared in the exact right place at the exact right time. 78 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: They were born in the last decade of the nineteenth 79 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: century in Bloomington, Illinois, a city whose legacy would become 80 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: inextricably linked with the world of the circus. Bloomingtons had 81 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: become aerial It's ground zero, just two decades after the 82 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: flying trapeeze first appeared in Europe. Jenny and Eddie's flying 83 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: trapeeze birthright was not one of heritage, but of proximity. 84 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: The history books tell us that a few years before 85 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: they were born, some local brothers had set up a 86 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: trapeeze in their barn, replicating the aerial acts that they 87 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: had seen when the circus wagons had passed through town. 88 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: They practiced their flips and tricks, much to the dismay 89 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: of their father, who sooner wished they joined the family's 90 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: confection or business than tempt death. But before long those 91 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: brothers had paying customers. People came to watch and eventually 92 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: to train. Want to be acrobats arrived from not just 93 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: all over the country, but all over the world. According 94 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: to one newspaper, the city became the capital of the 95 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: aerial Kingdom, making it impossible to visit a circus anywhere 96 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: without running into performers who hadn't done time there. By 97 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: nineteen oh three, Eddie and Jenny had graduated from their 98 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: tree and landed their first paying gig at a local fair. 99 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: It was a twenty mile train ride out of town, 100 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: but it felt a world away here under the big top. 101 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: They were reborn as the flying Wards. Their week long 102 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: contract was worth fifteen dollars, but they brought home so 103 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: much more. By passing around a hat to the enthusiastic audience, 104 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: they managed to collect the equivalent of over ten thousand 105 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: dollars in modern currency. The crowd had spoken, they were 106 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: a smash hit, and the siblings couldn't believe it. With that, 107 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: their professional career had begun. What Jenny and Eddie didn't 108 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: know at that moment was that they were on their 109 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: way not only to stardom, but to creating a circus 110 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: family dynasty. The world didn't know, it hungered for. It 111 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: was the golden age of the circus, and they were 112 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: right on time. The Trapeeze was going to be Jenny 113 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: and Eddie's ticket out of town. Countless shows were now 114 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: moving through the country by rail, including P. T. Barnum 115 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: and his entourage. The rail held their future. The following year, 116 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: the flying Wards appeared at the Atlanta Fair. In nineteen 117 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: o five, they were hired by a small amusement company. 118 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: The year After that, the Ringling Brothers circus got hold 119 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: of them before they jumped ship to join up with 120 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: the Van Amberg circus. By nineteen twelve, their ranks had 121 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 1: grown to include a rotating cast of friends and two 122 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: aerial artist spouses. Jenny married Alec Todd and Eddie married 123 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Mamie Faye. Together they opened a training barn in Iowa, 124 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: and then another back home in Bloomington in nineteen fifteen. 125 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: But lest you think this was any old barn, think again. 126 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: That label doesn't quite do it justice. There's was a 127 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: structure built to mimic a circus tent, thirty eight feet 128 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: high with twenty two large windows that made the place 129 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: glow with light. In one of their most famous acts, 130 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Jenny would hop on a trappies bar above Eddie's own bar, 131 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: who sat with his legs dangling forty ft above the ground. 132 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: From there, she would drop head first, deadweight like a corpse, 133 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: earthbound like a bomb, and he would catch her, of course, 134 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: but with his feet, all of this with no safety nets. 135 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: In nine Hampton magazine wrote up a profile about the Wards. 136 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: The reporter had teased Jenny she was as fearless as 137 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: a gladiator, but all wrapped up in more sinewy demure packaging. 138 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Jenny told the reporter that she didn't see why she 139 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: would have anything to fear when performing, because she knew 140 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: that her brother would catch her because he had to. 141 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: But she admitted, without batting an eye, there was something 142 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: else that rattled her more than hurtling toward the ground. Ever, 143 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: could railroad tracks? Railroad tracks? Asked the reporter incredulously. It 144 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: seemed all things considered to be a very silly thing 145 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: to worry about. Jenny shot back. Who wouldn't be afraid 146 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: of a great, big engine? She always worried about the 147 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: chance that she wouldn't make it across, Perhaps her foot 148 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: would get stuck, or she would trip and fall with 149 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: no one there to catch her. It was as if 150 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: Jenny knew something, something that told her that, for all 151 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: her high flying and death defying acts, trains were the 152 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: thing she had to be afraid of. But for someone 153 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: who would go on to make her living being ferried 154 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: from one city to another aboard the iron horse, she 155 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: had to get used to it. But that nagging sense 156 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: of worry she felt it was almost as if she 157 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: knew this wouldn't end well. One of America's greatest technological 158 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: inventions had revolutionized mass entertainment. No, I'm not talking about 159 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: the television or even the radio. I'm still talking about 160 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: the railroad. Rail had made the country accessible in a 161 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: way it never had before, traversing prairies and mountain passes, 162 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: cutting through cities and into small towns alike. For decades, 163 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: showman and their entourages had been traveling by wagon. It 164 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: was slow and hard. Barnum himself had acquired a hundred 165 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: or so wagons to transport his show, plus a few 166 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: hundred horses to pull them. It was a grinding, hardly 167 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: profitable way to try to squeeze out a living. Just 168 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: weeks after the Transcontinental Railroad was completed in eighteen sixty nine, 169 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,359 Speaker 1: a Wisconsin man took his two elephants and two camels 170 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: on tour from Nebraska to California. And these companies got 171 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: the process down to a science. Weeks ahead of a 172 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: circus performance, advertisements promoting the stars of the show would 173 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: appear in local newspapers and advertisements. No place in a 174 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: thirty mile radius of their next show was safe from big, 175 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: colorful postering. A glittering three mile parade was promised to 176 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: spectators who showed up, and that promise was usually kept. 177 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: For rural farming communities especially, the anticipation was palpable. They 178 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: knew that the biggest event of the whole year was 179 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: about to roll into town, and when the circus appeared, 180 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: everything else in their life just sort of stopped. In 181 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: the magazine, McClure's called the modern circus a kingdom on wheels, 182 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: a city that folds itself up like an umbrella. The 183 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: writer also wrote that quickly and swiftly, every night it 184 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: does the work of a Laddin's lamp, picking up in 185 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: its magical arms, theater, hotel, schoolroom, barracks, home, whisking them 186 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: all miles away, and setting them down before sunrise in 187 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: a new place, as if by magic. A parade of 188 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: exotic animals would appear at dawn and march down main street. 189 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Townsfolk watched as canvas tents spring up like mushroom caps. 190 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: They could rub shoulders with tattooed ladies and dwarfs, the 191 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: painted likenesses of which stood twenty feet tall on wood 192 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: and canvas to announce their arrival. To say that the 193 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: circus was a spectacle was an understatement. They was here 194 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: that Americans were utterly transported to a world that at 195 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: that time existed only in stories and their imaginations. The 196 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: circus train made it real. It was a rolling fantasy, 197 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: a hulking dream machine that rolled into town under the 198 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: cover of night. That's how everyone would get around for 199 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: a good time too. It became standard business practice, so 200 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighteen, the Flying Wards climbed onto the Haggenback 201 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: Wallace circus Train ready for their next tour. It was 202 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: an old school set of cars, all made of wood. 203 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: For Jenny and Eddie and their troop, it was familiar 204 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: and cozy. Their personal quarters of bare bones sleeper car 205 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: was full of bunks stacked two and three high. Overhead 206 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: oil lamps kept the cars glowing throughout the night. It 207 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: was a swaltering existence with the bodies of hundreds of 208 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: performers all stacked together in the summer air. But this 209 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: was what the Wards had worked so hard for. To them, 210 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: this circus train was home. Their show that season was 211 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: going to be a good one. They boasted and I 212 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: quote twenty five different acts advertising the presence of sixty aerialists, 213 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: sixty acrobats, sixty writers, fifty clowns and one hundred count them, 214 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: one hundred dancing girls. They also brought along seventy elephants, 215 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: eighty horse drawn wagons, twenty trick ponies, and a home 216 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,359 Speaker 1: and nagerie of other exotic creatures. That's a lot of numbers, 217 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: but you get the picture. The Wards and Company arrived 218 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: in Michigan City, Indiana, on June one, nineteen eighteen, to 219 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: give a charity performance at the Indiana State Penitentiary. All 220 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: things considered, this was going to be a light and 221 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: leisurely performance, and it was an afternoon show, one that 222 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: would give them enough time to wrap up with daylight 223 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: left to burn. As the cars finished loading, they would 224 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: head off in stages. The first section of the train 225 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: to leave the station at one am, was full of animals, 226 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: their handlers, and six sleeper cars. The second, comprised mostly 227 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: of performers, was slated to leave at two thirty am. 228 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: After a long day, the performers all settled in for 229 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: the night. Eddie and Mamie together, Jenny and Alec nearby, 230 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: the family and single women carriages were towards the front. 231 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: The married acts were sandwiched in the middle, the single 232 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: men roustabouts and trainers all pulled up the rear of 233 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: the train. The engine rumbled to life. The passengers felt 234 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: the jolt as their cars began to roll, and turned 235 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: their heads to the windows. The town sailed by like 236 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: a silent movie screen. It wouldn't be long now until 237 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: their next stop, which would be early enough to see 238 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the first light of dawn. The train rattled and shook 239 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: across the night. It was creaky at its joints, but 240 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: did its passengers a surface. It rocked them to sleep. 241 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: Little did they know that this night would be the 242 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: last for many on board. Some, in fact, would never 243 00:14:44,360 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: wake up again. Alonso, Sergeant, was on a collision horse, 244 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: and he had no idea. Often one never does. We 245 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: spend our lives hurtling toward the future. Are minutes ticking 246 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: on at our seconds winding down, And sometimes it's only 247 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: when we're forced to come to an abrupt stopped do 248 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: we realize that we might be out of time. Alonso, 249 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: the train engineer at the throttle of engine of the 250 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: Michigan Central Line, hadn't gotten much rest in the past day. 251 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: He was tired. He closed his cab window to save 252 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: himself from the night's chill. He knew these tracks, and 253 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: he knew his job, and he closed his eyes just 254 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: for a few moments. Of course, Alonso knew that he 255 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: didn't have long to go now, but what he missed 256 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: were the two caution signals, and instead of slowing down, 257 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: he sped up. Up ahead was the Hagenbach Wallace circus 258 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: train with the mechanical issue brakeman Oscar tim was walking 259 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: the rail, taking stock of the situation. They were just 260 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: five miles from their destination of Hammond, Indie Enna. Suddenly, 261 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: Oscar heard something he shouldn't have, the smooth rumble of 262 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: the tracks, and then saw something that shocked him, a 263 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: huge plume of smoke and the headlights of an oncoming train, 264 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: one that seemed to have no intention of slowing down. 265 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: Part of the circus car was on the transition rail, 266 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: but the rest of it was still on the main line, 267 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: directly in the path of this billowing beast. Oscar grabbed 268 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: an emergency flare and took off toward Alonso Sergeant's train. 269 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Oscar screamed he waved frantically, but Alonso couldn't hear him. 270 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: His window was closed, after all, and so he never 271 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: noticed when Oscar threw his burning flare at him. It 272 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: bounced off engine as the train sped onward. The few 273 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: who also saw this train coming watched Oscar's efforts in vain. 274 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: In a moment of sheer terror that we can only imagine, 275 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: they could do nothing but jump out of the way 276 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: as one fifty tons of steel hurtled straight towards them. 277 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: For the witnesses, we can imagine that time slowed down 278 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: in the seconds before impact, stretching and warping to fit 279 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: the full shape of the situation's horror. All the trainmen 280 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: could do now was wait and pray that the folks 281 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: inside the train cars were asleep and dreaming. And with that, 282 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: Alonso's steam engine made contact with the circus train. It 283 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: plowed into the caboose's steel frame, the air exploding with 284 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: gnashing roars and the tearing of steel. The engine's cow 285 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: catcher created a plowing, rolling effect, effectively mashing the circus 286 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: train into a snowball of twisted metal and sparks. The 287 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: next car beyond the caboose was one of the sleeper cars. 288 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: In an instant, a tidal wave of metal smashed through 289 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: the old wooden car. It shattered like glass, timber, splinters everywhere, 290 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: the walls coming down while smashed kerosene lamps pitched riders 291 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: into darkness. Those sleeping were sucked up in the undertow 292 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: of debris, living breathing bodies being dragged forwards as the 293 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: engine tore through the next passenger car, and then the next, 294 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: and then finally one last one before slowing down. It 295 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: was suddenly quiet for a moment, and then came the screams. 296 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: A moment later, the train began to burn. When Mamie 297 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: Ward came to she was upside down and folded into 298 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: a pocket in the wreckage. With the sound of Eddie 299 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: yelling for her from outside, she freed herself and climbed 300 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: to the top of the mountain of carnage. It was, 301 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: according to her, as tall as a telephone pole. Eddie, 302 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: who had been thrown from the wreck went back to help. 303 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: There were hundreds of people on that train. Survivors started digging, 304 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: pulling friends and family from the wreckage. They got to 305 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: work excavating frantically, following sounds of wailing and the smell 306 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: of burning flesh. But the smolder grew and the fire 307 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: turned into an inferno. The local fire departments were even 308 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: called in, but with few water sources nearby, there wasn't 309 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: much they could do. One newspaper later reported that the 310 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: task of identifying the dead and seriously injured was almost hopeless. 311 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: Not only were many of the bodies burned so badly 312 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: that recognition was impossible, but practically everyone on the train 313 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: was killed or hurt. The injured and dying were laid 314 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: on the ground next to the tracks. Morticians with their 315 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: horse drawn wagons stood by, making quick work of loading 316 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: the unidentifiable corpses and taking them away. Altogether, eight six 317 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: people died and over one hundred and twenty were injured. 318 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: The sun rose that day on a new world for 319 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: many of the Circus trains passengers, the ones who were 320 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: left behind to pick up the pieces of that fateful 321 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: summer night. Eddie was hailed as a hero by the 322 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: local papers. He had gone back into the wreckage time 323 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: and again, helping who he could, while clearly looking for 324 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: someone in particular. Just before he collapsed from exhaustion, he 325 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: succeeded and stepped out of the wreckage carrying something. It 326 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: was the lifeless body of his beloved sister Jenny. He 327 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: hadn't been there to catch her and now she was gone. 328 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: Jenny's final train ride took her home to Bloomington's, and 329 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: there where it all started. She was late to rest. 330 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: Eddie would never recover. On June, just a few days 331 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: after the accident, the caskets of fifty six train wreck 332 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: victims were buried in a common grave at Showman's Rest 333 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: Cemetery in Forest Hills, Illinois. Only thirteen of them had 334 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: been identified. The rest were charred beyond recognition. If you 335 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: were to visit there today, you'd find that many of 336 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: the headstones in that plot are inscribed with unknown male 337 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: and unknown female, But if you look closely enough, you'll 338 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: be able to find more affectionate names, such as Baldy 339 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: Smiley and four horse Driver. Ever since, Showman's Rest has 340 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: become the final resting place for hundreds of circus folk, 341 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: from roustabouts to owners and everyone in between. Some neighbors 342 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: claim that they can hear the sounds of phantom elephants 343 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: at night, but as the records show, no elephants were 344 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: actually buried there. I suppose we'll just have to chalk 345 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: it up to the zoo nearby. Oh and almost unbelievably, 346 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: the Hagenbach Wallace Circus only canceled to performances. Assistance came 347 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: from the Ringleing Brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus in 348 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: the form of equipment, animals, and performers. Survivors of the 349 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: wreck were able to perform once again, because even in 350 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: the face of extraordinary tragedy, it seems the show must 351 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: go on. In a world where many of us spent 352 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time at home during the pandemic, it's 353 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: amazing to imagine the ways will travel and the things 354 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: will see in the years ahead. The way we move, 355 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: the where, the how, and with whom. All of it 356 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: gives shape to our lives in truly meaningful ways. But 357 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: we're not done just yet. Stick around through this brief 358 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: sponsor break to hear one more tale about the side 359 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: show and maybe find some inspiration for your next road trip. 360 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to say if he ever knew it, but 361 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: one of the quite literally biggest celebrities in the world 362 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: was so unanimously loved. His beginnings were quiet and his 363 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: life was good, but that all changed when his mother 364 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: was shot and killed. He was kidnapped from Sudan and 365 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: forced to walk hundreds of miles before being taken by 366 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: boat to Paris, where he was brought to the Jordan Duplont. 367 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: It was France's botanical garden, a jewel in the eyes 368 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: of biologists working to understand the secrets of the natural world. 369 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: His life there, well, it was pretty bleak. His transfer 370 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: was eventually negotiated in the form of a trade. He 371 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: would go to the London Zoo in exchange for a rhino, 372 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: a jackal, two eagles, a pair of dingos, a possum 373 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: and a kangaroo. There, Jumbo the elephant would become a star. 374 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: Even though he was a smaller African elephant. The calf 375 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: would grow to a hearty twelve feet tall, and they're 376 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: under the watchful eye of his caretaker, Matthew Scott, Jumbo flourished. 377 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: He was sweet, and he was gentle, and within a 378 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: few years he was giving writhes to children, including those 379 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: of Queen Victoria, a boy named Winston Churchill, and if 380 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: the legends are true, even a young f dr. The 381 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: public loved him and they came to visit him by 382 00:23:54,480 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: the tens of thousands. But this situation wasn't built to last. 383 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: At around age twenty, the beginning of the teenage years 384 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: of an elephant if you will, he began acting moody 385 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: p t. Barnum caught wind of this and offered to 386 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: take Jumbo to America. After much protest from tens of 387 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: thousands of Londoners and from Queen Victoria herself, Jumbo once 388 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: again boarded a ship and set sail west towards his 389 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: new home. Barnum, ever, the opportunist, was able to conjure 390 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: a crowd for Jumbo's arrival. According to some sources, it 391 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: was the largest crowd New York City had ever seen. 392 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Before long, Barnum had made Jumbo an even bigger star. 393 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: He became the face of many products and a household name. 394 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: At that the term Jumbo became synonymous with giants. Together, 395 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: they logged tens of thousands of miles on the circus train, 396 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: breaking a ten records everywhere they went. But all good 397 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: things must come to an end, it seems. In September, 398 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: as Jumbo and his entourage were loading into a circus 399 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: train after a show, an unscheduled train came barreling down 400 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: the tracks and t boned the friendly giant. Jumbo perished 401 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: within minutes. But if you think that would be the 402 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: end of his story, you're dead wrong. As you've seen 403 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: by now, Barnam and his cronies never let an untimely 404 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: death get in the way of good business. Nope, quite 405 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: the opposite. They saw death as yet another money making opportunity, 406 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: one that certainly wasn't going to slow them down. Barnum, 407 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: you see, had a taxidermist on call. The taxidermist made 408 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: quick work of Jumbo, disarticulating his keleton and rebuilding it, 409 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: as well as stuffing his hide. Just shy of a miracle, 410 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: the modern day version of multiplying bread and fishes for 411 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: the masses, if you will. Barnum now had two Jumbos 412 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: for his audience. Stuffed Jumbo traveled by train to Tufts University, 413 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: a Barnum beneficiary. He was large, cumbersome, and totally immobile. 414 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: It said. It took many horses and over fifty people 415 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: to get him up the hill, and once they got there, 416 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: it was easier to get the good natured volunteers to 417 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: disassemble the university stone doorway than to get him inside 418 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: by any other alternative. And it's here Jumbo, to point oh, 419 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: would stay for decades, once again becoming a beloved mascot 420 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: to an adoring crowd, but it seems one last tragedy 421 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: would befall him. In the spring of n an electrical 422 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: fire broke out, burning Jumbo's building to the ground. Barely 423 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: anything was left of his stuffed mortal remains. A quick 424 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: thinking employee was able to save some of his remains, though, 425 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: and if you're up for it, you can still go 426 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: see them. Today. He sits on a shelf there Tufts 427 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: University in the athletic director's office. Rumor has it it's 428 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: considered good luck to say hello to him before a game, 429 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: but he's certainly easy to miss because all that's left 430 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: of Jumbo. Today's ash collected in a small glass jar 431 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: that was once used for Crunchy Peanut Butter. Side show 432 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: was written by Robin Miniter with narration by me Aaron Manky. 433 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: Research for the series was by Robin Minater, Taylor Haggard Dorn, 434 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: and Sam Alberty, with production assistance from Josh Thay, Jesse Funk, 435 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: Alex Williams, and Matt Frederick. Grim and Mile Presents was 436 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: created in partnership with I Heart Radio. You can learn 437 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: more about this show and everything else from Grim and 438 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: mild Over at Grim and mild Dot com and as 439 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: always thanks for listening. M