1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: So Jamie, uh uh, I don't have one right now? 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: You don't have an Obo with you? 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 3: No, no, but I do have one at my house. 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 4: Thanks Obama, Thanks you're the oma. 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big eight. 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: Dot com. Kevin, check that domain name for me. I'm 7 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: ready to invest. 8 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 4: It's a book. 9 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Let me say something first. 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: When we have a guest coming on Kevin the night before, 11 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: an hour before and a Pember texting not just that 12 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: we have a guest, but going, I was thinking, maybe 13 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: we could talk about this with this guest. 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: Maybe I do with. 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: This guess the last time this guest was on, we 16 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: talked about this, and maybe there's a way to sort 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: of cannibalize our own thing and reference. 18 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: Something that no one will remember. And he's just like 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: always going like, what are we gonna do when. 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,199 Speaker 1: Get a little deeper your in today? Yes not did 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: not for one second. His confidence in you, your ability 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: to riff, your innate charm is so high. He didn't 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: send a single idea of what we should talk about. 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: What unspoken is Jamie's here. I got the day off, 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine. 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: And I planned to go nuts today. 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: And I think he could sense it that you were 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: going to go. 29 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: We used to say fucking tazz out on the show. 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: I love to tazz out, and that that feels good 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: to hear about Kevin because on previous appearances, I've had 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: long meeting. 33 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Preps you a lot, right, Yeah, he drills me couple 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: of us where you're where you're getting intensive. 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: Drills, yeah, I And he wanted to set them for 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: when I would normally take my pilates classes just eight 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: in the morning, because. 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: After it's not gonna like, no, you're gonna be spent. 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 40 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: He said that like all the like little muscles that 41 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: you use for like balance and stability are crucial. 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: I use my obliques yeah right now. 43 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Yes, that those are very important to his process and 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: he can't have you burning them out. 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. And he doesn't even want them toned, which is 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: like he wants to shape them. 47 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: They'll fuck them up. 48 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: He says. 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: So, yeah, I quit for a while to you know, 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: crop with Kevin, and I mean it feels good to 51 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: you know, not have to do those calls. 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: Where you go and usually you go to d R pilates. 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: I go to pilates punks. 54 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm not allowed in there, they said, I 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: have to have a mohawk to take the car. 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they like. 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: Pin me down and starts shaving my head and I 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: said no, and they said, oh, then I guess you're not. 59 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: Serious about pilates. Yeah, so I. 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 3: Would agree with that. I didn't used to feel that way, 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: but now I do. 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: They said, I have to hold a paper clip up 63 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 4: to my nose. 64 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: Did they make you? 65 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 5: I have to actually put it in there anything. I 66 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 5: just have to hold it up like it's like it's 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 5: in there. 68 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: They have to slag off the queen. 69 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: They said, you better start slagging off the queen, did you? 70 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't have a little I didn't really 71 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: put my ass behind it. 72 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: You know, I. 73 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: Was doing it, but it was just like, oh, that 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 4: bitty she's you know, I said she was a nutter. 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: They do need you to put your whole bussy into 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,119 Speaker 3: it can go in. 77 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: That was the message I received as well. 78 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: I named I named the five bands, and they just 79 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: let me cruise on through. I named five at the 80 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: door and they said, all right, let's see what she's got. 81 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 4: What'd you name? Yeah? What were the bas A lot 82 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: of bands? 83 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: It's a lot of bands. 84 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: Five Yeah, I can name maybe two. 85 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Ramon's that's number one, Okay, that's my band. Next, 86 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: you have New York Dolls. 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: I would not have gotten that. 88 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: Then I just started looking. 89 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Is that the American girl Ball Store? 90 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: They played that in there? 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: Because one of them is one of them? 92 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: Is one of them is a New York Doll? And 93 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: then the last three I was kind of panicking. But 94 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: there's stuff hanging on the wall. 95 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: Geb what of gheeby one of one of the bands? 96 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: Is she bed? 97 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: I didn't name that one, and I think that that 98 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: broke up. 99 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: Okay. 100 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: And then there's Modest Mouse ah, and then she kind of. 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: The way they want me to know them. 102 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, because when. 103 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: You say Modest Mouse, then you have to say like 104 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: their early stuff, right, Modest Mouse before yeah, before they 105 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: hit hold on yeah. 106 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: And then and then I said no doubt and then 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 3: I stuttered and I said no doubt again, and I 108 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: just let me in. 109 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: Okay, that is five. 110 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: Well yeah again they didn't even I didn't get to 111 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: the band part of it. If I had what I 112 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: have said, top five, top five, okay, dead or alive? 113 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: Is is p Diddy a punk band? 114 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 115 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: I remember some pretty loud guitars in some of those songs. 116 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: You know what they do count because I checked the 117 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: roster too, because I've been going there for a while, 118 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: and after a while they let you look at the 119 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 3: list of bands. You can say jay Z, but you 120 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: have to say with Lincoln. 121 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: Park jay Z, Lincoln Park, you gotta say that's an 122 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: acceptable answer. 123 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay. 124 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: How many times have you been done with do the show? 125 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: How many? Hayes was asking me yesterday and I had 126 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: no clue. 127 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know. 128 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 4: It makes more sense for you, I mean for you 129 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 4: to know that. 130 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: Us I should Yeah, because you're doing this. 131 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 4: We did five hundred more. 132 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: I saw. 133 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: A lot of our guests because we got zero pressed. 134 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: God, that's really was that hard. 135 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: To get no press? 136 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: Getting no press? 137 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: Yeah? 138 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 5: I am actually curious for Kevin if it was hard 139 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: fending off the press. 140 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's such a press. 141 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: It was very hard. 142 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 6: There was a lot of emails I had to not 143 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 6: respond to about depressed. 144 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 4: I got depressed. Yeah, we got depressed, like Kevin. Yeah, 145 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: we got depressed. 146 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: His train abandon train, the later stuff, yeah, the not 147 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: the releasty after it. 148 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: Because we're on a bit of a run. You see, 149 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 5: we don't like to you know, we don't like to talk. 150 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: We don't like to jinx the streak by discussing the streak. 151 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: But you are finding us in the middle of. 152 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: A hot zone. 153 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: That's amazing. I'm so thrilled. 154 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you could get infected with some of the 155 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: comedy in the in the center of this hot zone 156 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: because it's going viral. 157 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: It's going all the time. 158 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: And be thinking about we've been cutting, we've been doing. 159 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: Clip degrees of viral, but yes, always at least a 160 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: little bit a. 161 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Low simmer, or think about what would make a good 162 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: clip from your episode, like try to do something that generates. 163 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: Just like if the episode's good, great, fine. I don't know, 164 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: nobody really listens to the episode. 165 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 4: But we have, yes, and we need help with the clips. 166 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: Kevin's clip in sticks mm hmmm are fatal. 167 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm realizing that he named his hedgehog clippy ironically. 168 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: Oh god, because. 169 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Because that's the only thing that he's not really able 170 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: to like wrap his head around. 171 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: He's so good at the other stuff, telling press no thank. 172 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: You, getting a guest and then not really preparing anything 173 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: for them. 174 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: I guess telling us what we've done before, like all 175 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: that stuff. 176 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: He's like got his head around finding a clip. 177 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: Well, naming a hedgehog. 178 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 4: Is unfortunately with God right now with God. Forgot, Sorry, 179 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: I forgot. I was supposed to tell you he fell off. 180 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: The have a fatal bunk about it. 181 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: It's like when I went when I was at tennis 182 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: camp and my parents didn't tell me that my mud 183 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: skipper died until I got home. 184 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: You know, I went on vacation. 185 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: Elliott was his name? 186 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: Elliott? Yeah, oh that's how long did he live? 187 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: Pretty long? 188 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: A lot longer than the one we got after. Yeah, 189 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: he started a trend. That's the other mudskippers hurt. How 190 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: easy it was. 191 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: It's too bad that Elliott's Elliot's death went viral like 192 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 3: that because it just gave other mudskifers ideas. 193 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thirteen, why for. 194 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: Tread center? 195 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just read this entire book. 196 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 197 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: The book is raw dog. 198 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 5: The book is raw dog, it saysn't part travelogue, part 199 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: culinary history. All capitalists critique, Jamie, I know, yeah, I 200 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 5: noticed the book is for sale, and yet I noticed 201 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 5: the book is for sale for money? 202 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 2: Okay, that is where does the money go? To the DSA. 203 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: You know, I would say it doesn't. It doesn't. And 204 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 3: that's something that the good people on on good Reads 205 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: have been confronting me about this pretty consistently, saying, oh, 206 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: that's interesting. Are you accepting money for this when you 207 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: seem to hate money? 208 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 5: So you said, I guess it's it's a capitalist critique. 209 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 5: It's a critique that is capitalist. Yeah, it's a critique. 210 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: Coming from a capitalist. I'm criticizing those those dupas that 211 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: you know. I don't want money. 212 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but I'm obsessed now with I cut 213 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: you off. You had said I was on vacing. I 214 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: told the tennis camp story, pretty touched it. 215 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: It was really hopeful we could let it go to. 216 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: And then you said it, but and then and then 217 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 2: maybe stitch this in after because Jamie's got a good 218 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: vacation story that she didn't get to at the time. 219 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 4: We'll go back to the book. 220 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: The book's going to be a lot of the episode. 221 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: Sure, sure you, but you. 222 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: Were on vacation. 223 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: What happened? 224 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 7: Where were you? 225 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: I regretted that sentence the second it came out of 226 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: my mouth. 227 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: Well, because it sounds pretty bougie, you know what I mean? 228 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: We got this big capitalist critique. 229 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, I am on vacations and was it a nice vacation? No, 230 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: but it was a vacation. I took some time off. 231 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 4: Where did you have a vacation. 232 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: With my mom in Orlando, Florida? 233 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: Okay, we got there, We got to somewhere. 234 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: We did. 235 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: It was a little touch and go with my mom 236 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 4: of it all. 237 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it was cold. We were staying at 238 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: the Sheraton. We have a we have a time share there. 239 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: Now that's a little bougie as well. 240 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Time Sheraton, that's. 241 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 3: What they call it there, and they're always trying to 242 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: upsell you. But I okay, I was twenty six years old. 243 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: I went on vacation with my mom in Orlando, Florida. 244 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: I asked my roommate to take care of my hamster. 245 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: Uh and it was I was in spot. Was so 246 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: inspired by hearing Elliott's story. Then I wanted to share 247 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: my hamster story because while I was gone, she got 248 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: something called wet bottom and died within a day. It's 249 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: very terminal for hamsters. It's like one of the top 250 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 3: reasons and there's nothing you can do. 251 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: Scary, I think I have it. Are you serious, I 252 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: have it. 253 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's really not a cure. 254 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm just working back through the last couple of days 255 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just imagining what it could be. There's really 256 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: only one thing, and I have it, which means like. 257 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: Have you called you know, an exotic pets foot? 258 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: I guess, but you're saying it's terminal, like maybe it's 259 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: maybe it's different, is it? 260 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: Yeah? 261 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you probably you have more time at least. 262 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so maybe I can get some stuff done. 263 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Record a couple more podcasts before I say goodbye. 264 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 5: I don't want to get to like clinical with like 265 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 5: what the the epidemial, like the hamster epidemiology and like 266 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 5: how it impacts them and things like that. 267 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: But basically they back up on it a little dripper. 268 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 3: It's yeah, so you've seen it. 269 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and of the state. 270 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: Right with that got me into the punk pilates bar. 271 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: You might be able to trick them if you scowl 272 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: really hard while you say it, and I'm must not hurt. 273 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: I think you could go harder. 274 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 5: I went a vacation too, okay, all right, and we 275 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 5: asked the neighbor should take care of my pet bird, 276 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 5: Larry bird, And then what. 277 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: He flew in a window and his head broke. 278 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 8: Way. 279 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: Joy. Oh wait, we found him walking in the street. 280 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: I've done that. 281 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 5: That's how we first found him. He was walking down 282 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 5: the street and we picked him up and took him home. 283 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: Oh before he died. 284 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: You found him walking, that's how you That's how we 285 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: first found. 286 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: Him and usually acquired Larry Bird. 287 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 5: He was walking down the middle of the street. What 288 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: kind of bird was on Cape cod That was on 289 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 5: a different vacation. 290 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: He was pary blue. 291 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: Wow, just out for a stroll, right, scoomcase. 292 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: Seems like someone's picking my ass up. 293 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: Now you're the cops. 294 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 4: M Yeah, basically, what did you. 295 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: Ask for consent? 296 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: Like? 297 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: What was that process like. 298 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: To pick up Larry Bird? 299 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, scooping his ass up? 300 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: Did you check him at all? 301 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: I guess. I was like, Hey, is it okay if 302 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 4: I throw this entire towel over you? Yes? 303 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 5: I did say that, Okay, I've got this gigantic towel. 304 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: Is it okay if I just drop it on your ass? 305 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: And he was fine. 306 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: He was very very chill about it. 307 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: Wow, Jamie, I know you know about the show, the 308 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: show that you're on. Of course, I think you famously 309 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: told us once that you had a roommate who said 310 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: you wouldn't get it. 311 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: Yes, let's tip, and I'd never get it. It's what 312 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: they said, you never. 313 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: I honor you, King. We need our. 314 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: Gatekeepers, yes, otherwise the gates just open. 315 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 316 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: So you know that. 317 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: We've been going a little bit, especially since you heard 318 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: about the five hundred the episode, that we've been going 319 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: through the history of the. 320 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: Show, some of our biggest moments. 321 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: And like one thing that people to this day reference 322 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: even a shirt at one point is we would say, 323 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: and we didn't know what it meant. 324 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: We would say, hot dog go to bathroom. You remember that. 325 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: That's fun? 326 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: Do you remember that. 327 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: I don't remember that. 328 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: You don't remember it. It was like a quiz. 329 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: It was like what's your perfect day at the beach 330 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: or something, and it was a multiple choice and the 331 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: joys were like go for a walk, like collect shells 332 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: like that, and then the last choice was hot dog 333 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: go to bathroom. 334 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: And man, we laughed at us saying that hilarious. We 335 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 2: were loving it. Cut to nine years later, you write 336 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: a book, Hot Dog. 337 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: Right to be Read in the Bathroom. Yeah, and it's 338 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: and it's raw Dog. The book and what Kevin said. 339 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't feel this way necessarily, But Kevin said that 340 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: we know she listened to the episode She's stealing a stealer. 341 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: And then he said to me, and this is I'm 342 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: quoting him. I want to be clear because I don't 343 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: say this stuff. First he asked, do you know who C. S. 344 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: Lewis is? 345 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 4: I go, yeah, I do. 346 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: And goes, then you'll love this the lion, the witch, 347 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: and the audacity of this. 348 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: Are you serious? 349 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: I mean I had to sit my ass down because 350 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Kevin, this is a friend, this is 351 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: a return guest, like that's precious to us. 352 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: We need return guests. 353 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 4: Weird to say, like do you know C. S. Lewis? 354 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: I don't know why, Like, yeah, I guess. 355 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 5: Because some people like and like, okay, well I know 356 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 5: that that title is familiar to me. I guess you 357 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: can't say do you know the lion, the witch and 358 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 5: the wardrobe? 359 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was part of it, but like, yeah, 360 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: it's like I'd say at that point, just roll the dice, 361 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: even if I thought you were making up the rhyme, 362 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: like it's going to have a similar impact. 363 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: Well, I will say, and this doesn't feel good to say, 364 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: because I'm pretty pissed off right now. But it did 365 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 3: land for me. Yeah, I thought it was pretty funny, and. 366 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: It's do you like hanging out with Kevin? He's been 367 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: saying it more and more. 368 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: Well, he's been drilling me for years, so it's really, 369 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's really frustrating to hear these, you know, 370 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: and then you can like sort of get the vibe 371 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 3: from someone who's gonna talk shit behind your back. 372 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: I can hear in your voice how furious. 373 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: Like it's really I just feel like a lump in 374 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: my throat because I just didn't think it's always a person. 375 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: You don't think it's going. 376 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: To do it. 377 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the book trust that's an adult. 378 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: Adult you know. 379 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: That means poor, not poor, stuff says adult. Can I 380 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: see that. 381 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 4: Cat? 382 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: Okay to poor note adult adult humor, poor jokes. 383 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: They don't put that at the front of the Barnes 384 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: and Noble. That's why they're not doing that. 385 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, they. 386 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: Have to put it in the back. It's too dangerous. 387 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: What kind of porno jokes are in here? 388 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 4: You know? 389 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 3: Oh I can't be given away my porno jokes for free. 390 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 8: You know. 391 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: One where it's like the it's like a breathalyzer, but 392 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: it's it's like giving her breathalyzer, but it's she's like, 393 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: what are you actually given the dude? 394 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 4: Dope? 395 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 3: Oh I don't know. 396 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: I mean, ah, dude, such a porno. Okay, And now 397 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: I'm and now I'm lost in the book. Yeah, a 398 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: world of words. And I've been something. Hey's you take over? 399 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 4: There's something on every single page. 400 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: Jamie's little aside. There's footnotes. I like the way their 401 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: format it is. I don't want to flip to the 402 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: back of my footnote. I want it right here. When 403 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: I ignore it. 404 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: You know what, Oh, shorter page. 405 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to feel like, yeah, I don't want 406 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: to feel like I'm big lazy because of the structure 407 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: of it. 408 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: I want to just be like, yep, no, thank you. 409 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of reading. 410 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't need to like stop and like go read 411 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: so I could keep reading. 412 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: That's not me, I. 413 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: Did that for you. That's okay, that's good. 414 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 4: Let's talk about the book. 415 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: Big Gas footnote. 416 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: It's pretty long. It's the only one. 417 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: Page one and it's putting note number one. Yeah, lucky 418 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: that I found it. Honestly, it's kind of. 419 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: An adult humor teake in itself. 420 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 4: Mm hm, did you ever eat a whole lot? 421 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 422 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: Tough to even find one these days. 423 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: It's I'm glad you said that, because that I was 424 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: censored a little and I couldn't say, you know, where 425 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: the hell am I. 426 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: Supposed to be? Where's the rest of the beef? 427 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: Where's the rest of them? 428 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: Okay, see, I can't say where's the beef? There's certainly 429 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 4: some here, but where's the rest beef? 430 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 2: But where'd the rest of it go? Here's the beef, 431 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: some of it? Where does the rest of the beef go? 432 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 3: How would you punctuate that? 433 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 4: Uh? Sorry? 434 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: So the scenario is I'm transcribing my own question. 435 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: She's got to steal it. This is what she does 436 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 4: say so clearly. Now, just the level of laziness. 437 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting that before oh it's just Kevin. 438 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: The things that's been all of a sudden, it seems 439 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: like maybe Hayes shares his opinion. 440 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: Well of what I Kevin has known to infect our brains. 441 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: He is a virus. 442 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: He's sort of. 443 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: Like crafted the show to his specifications. Now, we used 444 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: to do all kinds. 445 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: Of shit, you know, and now we just do like 446 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: the one thing that Kevin thought. 447 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: The show was over and over again, he would just 448 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: accused people of stealing from us. 449 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: He's got to get his. 450 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 5: And he and he asked me, like related to this, 451 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: He asked me if I know uh, he asked me 452 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 5: if I have C. 453 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: S Lewis Oh God, I know where this is going. 454 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 4: And I said yes, And he said the butcher, the baker, 455 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 4: and the idea taker at this pitch. Okay, I don't 456 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 4: think I don't think C. 457 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: S lewis that fucking believable. Yeah, well, you know, maybe 458 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 3: Kevin could benefit from stealing some ideas because that's not 459 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: a very good one, is it. 460 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: No that No, maybe definitely he needs an idea stolen 461 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: from anyone else, because that one doesn't seem to connect 462 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: the CS. 463 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 4: No, it feels like. 464 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: A stretch to get a b ward in there, which 465 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: is like. 466 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: It doesn't rhyme with the middle thing at all. 467 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, which, in twenty twenty three doesn't feel very appropriate 468 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 3: to be calling me something like that. I hated it especially. 469 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 2: I hated that he did that. 470 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: He shouldn't have done it. But you know, okay, Fine. 471 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: Don't do that. 472 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: It's not nice. 473 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: Get this is to repeat what I said at the time, 474 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: and no way. 475 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 4: On the on the floor, which is what your book 476 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: should be called. 477 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 8: Come on, man threw up on the floor of the book, right, Yeah. 478 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: I just it's so frustrating because now that I'm thinking 479 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: about it, like in these sessions that then I would have, 480 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 3: you would be calling other people in his life bitch 481 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: is old all the time. I don't know why I 482 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: thought I would be exempt. 483 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. 484 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is funny you work back through all the 485 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: interactions you've had all the time brought up anybody else 486 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: in his life, Like even like when Hayes wasn't there, 487 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: he was saying it about Hayes. 488 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 2: Why did I think it wasn't happening about me when I. 489 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: Wasn't there, you know. 490 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when someone tells you who they are, do 491 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: me a favor, go ahead and believe them. 492 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: Bitch that's said to me, and I. 493 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: Didn't use it, so you know, he was warning about himself. 494 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I found out. You know. One time 495 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: he asked me if I knew who C. S. 496 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: Lewis was, and I said, yeah, Like we've talked about 497 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: this before, and then he just was. 498 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: Like, more like Prince aspying. 499 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: That wasn't Lewis thing. 500 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: So yeah, well he's hit or miss because I didn't. 501 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: And I, well, I feel like I can break our 502 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: you know, Kevin, you know, my agreement in our Cone 503 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 3: of Silence is just broken at this point because the 504 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 3: trust is shattered. 505 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: It's all out there. 506 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: And so he did ask me one time if I 507 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: knew who C. S. 508 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: Lewis. 509 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: Was sure, no, he'll do that. I said, this story 510 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: tracks for me so far. That's my experience with Kevin as. 511 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: And of course I said yes. And at this and 512 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: and this is like. 513 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: You write books, I mean you know C. S. 514 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: Lewis. 515 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've heard of them, right, you know 516 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: a fellow author, right, And this was a day he 517 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 3: was he was a little frustrated with Hayes. Hayes had 518 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: cut him off at some point, and so he he said, 519 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: have you heard of C. S. Lewis? And I said yes, 520 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 3: and and Kevin said, I know why the cage bird 521 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: won't shut the hell up. 522 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: That's definitely not. 523 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: That wow, and so and then I just said, like 524 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 3: I have to go. 525 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: It's offensive and thinking it's C. S. Lewis is offensive. 526 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 5: If he just said that I cut him off, you 527 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 5: might be thinking that I like cut off communication with him, 528 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 5: or cut him off on the road, or something like that. 529 00:25:54,520 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 5: What it actually was was schnapps. Yes he was, he 530 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 5: had been. 531 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: That is your last. That is your last one. You 532 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: will not be getting another one. I wonder if it 533 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: was a reference to Larry Bird Mmm, wow, he knew that. 534 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: Bird page Birdy. 535 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 6: This week on the Patreon, the Boys write a eulogy 536 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 6: for the Stitcher app. On the pro Version and The 537 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 6: flaker Ones are mostly talking all things basketball. Check out 538 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 6: all these shows and the video for today's episode with 539 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 6: Jamie at patreon dot com Slash the Flaker Ones. 540 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: The book is Raw Dog. It's on shelves now everywhere. 541 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: You can read this thing. You find this, you go 542 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: buy it right and the money goes. 543 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: To a great cause, capitalism. 544 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's out now and it's so many, 545 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: so much hot dogs. 546 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: In the book, Jamie talk. 547 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: A little bit about I saw a treat at Trader Joe's. 548 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: It was it was called perfectly pickled Dogs. It was 549 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: a frozen package of hot dogs that are covered in 550 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like a corn dog. Reading there's a but 551 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: there's a. 552 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: Pick pickle flavored red crumb surrounding it. What is this 553 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: is that in the book? 554 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 4: Is that in the. 555 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 3: Book it's a pickle hot dog at Trader Joe's. 556 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: In perfectly pickled dogs from Trader Joe's. 557 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: I'm curious about it. 558 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: It's a. 559 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: Reading it's like a morn dog where it's got like 560 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: a like dipped in but there's a pickle element to it. 561 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: That's Trader Joe's capitalizing on the craze. Is that in 562 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: the book it didn't make the book I did. I 563 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 3: had certain rules with corn dogs for the book, and 564 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 3: it sucks because I know exactly what you're talking about. 565 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 3: And I really wanted to put it in and but 566 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: they said, you. 567 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: Know that sucks. 568 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 4: Sucks. Doggy sucks. 569 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 3: It sucked doggy. 570 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: I mean it was like doggy. 571 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 3: So I was really bummed. No not today, but like 572 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: I just because I've. 573 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: Worked through it, you know, no no more tears left 574 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: for this one. No, you know, we've just been through 575 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: the whole process. 576 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 4: Ship. 577 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's all I have prepared. 578 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: Did you try that on time? 579 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: No? 580 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: No, you just look at it. 581 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Somebody send me a picture of it. I don't think 582 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: they've tried it either. 583 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: I would, I mean I would try it. 584 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: I'm curious, what's the what house? What house the book? 585 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 4: What the publishing house. 586 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 8: For? 587 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Forge, Forge, It's Forge Woven one of the 588 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: X Men. No Forge, Yeah, he's the strongest one, isn't he? Sorry? 589 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: Strong the strongest one. 590 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: Who's the strongest one? 591 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 4: I actually think that Storm is the strongest one. 592 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you the ability to control the weather. 593 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: But I guess, I guess you'd think one of the. 594 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: Actually girl X men's are actually one of them too. 595 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 2: It could be the strongest one. 596 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: Really, I don't know. I just I just don't think 597 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: that that's true. Well you, as a woman, I think 598 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: Forge is the strongest one. 599 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: I would say that, uh, Forge is very strong. 600 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, the strongest one. I would probably say. 601 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: Rogue who got could acquire for powers. 602 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: At any time that she wished by using her powers 603 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 4: of seduction. 604 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: I I see, I don't think Forge would fall for it. 605 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: I think when Forge fell for it one time, it 606 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: was a play. 607 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: Letting her think he could fall for it. 608 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 4: Was going to do it. 609 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: Then he would be able to be strong and build 610 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: a plane or something. 611 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 4: That's what he would do. 612 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he could bring build a plane and leave. 613 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: Is that not strong? 614 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: It's very you know, it's it's very strong. The ability 615 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: to build a plane and leave, that's quite a power. 616 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: I can't do either of those things. 617 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: Did you write Forge? How did this come about? Well? 618 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: Forge reached. 619 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, reached out to you. 620 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: So they wrote the funny email. 621 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: And I was like taken a bad act obviously, you know, 622 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: because it was it was a couple of years ago. 623 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: It was during lockdown, and Forge reached out and and said, 624 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: you know that the world needed joy and and how 625 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: can we get there? You know, And and I really 626 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 3: I've been such a big fan of Forge over the years, 627 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: and it was just like in honor to hear from him. 628 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: And so actually this was at a time where Kevin 629 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: and I were still doing the session and so that's 630 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: like part of why it's so painful to see him today, 631 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: because I started canceling my sessions with Kevin so I 632 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 3: could be with Forge the book, right, And I thought 633 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: Kevin would be happy for me. No way, I well, yeah, 634 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: I know. 635 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: That's clear now. Yeah, you know, I don't understand no 636 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: way now. 637 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: I just didn't. I mean, I don't like to take 638 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: it back there. But I just was surprised the extent, 639 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: the how low he was willing to go. 640 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 5: So when you had tried to cancel the sessions because 641 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 5: of lockdown, and he said no way. 642 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, we're growing virtual and and and I 643 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: would try to you know, I would say it was. 644 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: Helmet or something. 645 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: I am so stressed out because I was like, we 646 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: can't meet in person right now, and he said, want 647 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: to bet? And then I just like didn't know what 648 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: to do. So we were, you know, it was like 649 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: a yard. It was safe. We were in the yard, 650 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: but and I was wearing a helmet. He was wearing 651 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: a helmet, and it was just like, I don't know. 652 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: And then when we went virtual, it got even worse 653 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: because you would send the calendar invites, always with the 654 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: calendar invites, and I would say no. At some point, 655 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 3: I will. 656 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 2: In the invites said want a cyber like, which is like, 657 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: there's no way. He didn't know that. 658 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: There's like another way to read that, because it was 659 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: it was And to defend him, I know because I've 660 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: gotten the same yeals. We did some virtual meetings, We 661 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: did some virtual okay, and he did drill. 662 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: Me and and I. 663 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: Did, I think improve my hosting presence. You can even 664 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: see today. 665 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: I'm fully self possessed. 666 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: All of my ideas are good, really expressing myself really clearly. 667 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the guests, occasional eye contact. 668 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, all things that were weaknesses for me before. 669 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm not saying the drilling didn't work. I just like 670 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: I was trying to say when you know, and he 671 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: would not allow it. 672 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: Can we talk about podcasts? 673 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 674 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 4: You did that? 675 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 3: I see Yeah, I mean so. 676 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 4: We miss you. We miss you over here. 677 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: It's different. Where's my friend? 678 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: Does this like with the microphone and everything? Does it 679 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: make you thinks? 680 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: Such a throwback? 681 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 4: If I went back and I did. 682 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 3: It's such a throwback. I'm just like, wow, there's well. 683 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: I've gotten so many emails saying I really enjoyed not 684 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 3: to I really enjoyed the book. It's like a really 685 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: long podcast. And I find these emails really really really 686 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,959 Speaker 3: frustrating to receive. But it's nice to be back. 687 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: Did you bring the book? 688 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 3: Give me the book? Did I give you the book? 689 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: You have the book? I don't know whose book. 690 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: That's that's pretty somebody mhm. 691 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 6: I oh, Ship says to Nick, and. 692 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: Mitch fuck. 693 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 3: And they left it here. 694 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: The original boys. 695 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, the real boys. But it was just 696 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 3: a joke. 697 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: Boys, it's just a joke I have without dog Boys. 698 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 4: But those guys, what we actually prefer. 699 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 5: Is that you just going forward from when we schedule 700 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 5: these again, is that you do us first and then 701 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 5: you go do their show. 702 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: Okay, and then. 703 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 5: We don't have a direct line for them, but we 704 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 5: do need to speak with them about us being able 705 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 5: to do Yeah. 706 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: No, I'll hit the group chat right. 707 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: To get on there. 708 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: And I'd be willing to write a book by this 709 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: book or another one if it meant me getting back 710 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: on the show. 711 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: Do this one. It's great. Yeah, you're gonna really like it. 712 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: I you know, I didn't give me the book. 713 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 3: I didn't give you the book, but you said yourself, 714 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: you said you didn't want to read it. 715 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 2: I know, I don't want to read the footnote. 716 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 3: You want to read everything around. 717 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: Then are you reading the book? Okay? I can't. I'm 718 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: in flow, you know, I don't break up the flow. 719 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: Got this nice rhythm going. 720 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: I'm going to stop down now, No, you're right, I 721 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: mean you're stopping to tie your shoe in the middle 722 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: of the race, and it was it was. 723 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 3: Brought up to me that it would be bitchy to 724 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 3: add a footnote. So so late. 725 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 2: Kevin said that. 726 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: He said that, yeah, Kevin. Oh he didn't. 727 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: No, he said to me, he said to. 728 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 9: Me, now he said, yes, Kevin, please. 729 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 3: Behavior Well, okay. At this point, I'm just like not 730 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 3: even surprised. I'm just like feeling murder. 731 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 4: Does a footnote have a star? 732 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 2: Let's see, well, it got it. 733 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: I know what page it is, one fifty six because 734 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: I said it. Okay, so I am here, and uh, 735 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: there's a one. There's a little one. 736 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 4: It's a little one. 737 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 3: Little one, Okay, I insisted on that. 738 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so I know I'm supposed to find the 739 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 5: other one. 740 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: I know that. 741 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 4: I get to the end of the footnote. Where do 742 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: I go? 743 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 5: Now it I don't established back. There's a little like 744 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 5: a little code. 745 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess what. 746 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: So the last word of the footnote that there should 747 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: be after that is like a little star or a 748 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: new number. 749 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: Star. 750 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: And then you well, yes, because the star would then 751 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: be found up on this page. So this it's like 752 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: the one takes me down to the one, and then 753 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: the star takes me back up to the star because 754 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: I end up getting lost. 755 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: Like I finished this. 756 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: And then I started reading the next page, but I'm 757 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: the middle of saying that I don't know about my pants, 758 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: my belt buckle. 759 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 4: God. 760 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 3: That's so. That's really that's useful feedback. Thank you. I 761 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 3: guess I never considered the star system. 762 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,879 Speaker 2: But that is mostly doesn't have to be a star. 763 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be a star. It has to be 764 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 2: something to help me. I'm lost. 765 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 3: I like that, like the little cross, the little cross. 766 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 3: I like to add the little cross, and it feels. 767 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 4: So Jesus who's reading the book and he's like, Okay, 768 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 4: thanks for reminding me of that hot dog. Yeah he 769 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 4: can't yeh, I remember that side cartoon. 770 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 3: I like. I like when I but I would get 771 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: confused because when I see the cross, I'm like, oh, 772 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 3: I should put this down and pick up my Bible, 773 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 3: and then I stop reading the book. I don't finish it. 774 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 4: That's true. 775 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: I end up doing the entire goddamn Rosary. 776 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: I end up doing the whole mother fucking Rosary and 777 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: then crossing there. 778 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, then I need then I need a nap. 779 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 5: Or the other are your other little friends? Like is 780 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 5: Kathy writing you and being like, hey. 781 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 4: Could be sort of funny to do a podcast about 782 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 4: Kathy eats a hot dog? 783 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 5: You know now that you've like just straight up moved on, 784 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 5: and yeah, well they're spent carcass. 785 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 4: But like, in the wake of your ambition. 786 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 3: I think maybe she I mean, I think maybe maybe 787 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: people would have reached out if I hadn't. I think 788 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 3: in retrospect, I shouldn't have bridge burned as severely as 789 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 3: I reached out. 790 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: They're going, what if Lolita you a hot dog? You know, 791 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 2: rather seductively and like, no. 792 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 5: When you do a podcast, someone your body makes a 793 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 5: promise and that it's it is a secret. It's not 794 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 5: something that you can just like act like it never happens, 795 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 5: Like you don't get happened. It did happen. You did 796 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 5: a podcast about Kathy. 797 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: Yes, you were, You were a willing participant in that. 798 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: In fact, I think you initiated. I think you were 799 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: the one that seduced Kathy originally. 800 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really And now picture having the confidence 801 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 5: to just show up and be like. 802 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 4: Hey, like Jamie, you do a podcast, you. 803 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: Want to do that? That's not yeah, no one knows 804 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: that it's you. 805 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 3: No, And she I think now thinks of it, like, wow, 806 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: you know she was so thirsty, you know, like reaching 807 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 3: out repeatedly. But I think it's just like you know, 808 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 3: when am I allowed to move on? When you to 809 00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: hot Dog. 810 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 4: About well yeah maybe mensa, could you know hot Dog? 811 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 4: I don't know. 812 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 2: I just had a genius idea l O l r O. 813 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: F Uh maybe. 814 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: I would let the hey look, nothing stopping them. But 815 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 3: uh but I've you know, I'm just like there, I'm 816 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 3: not stopping you' How am I holding them back at 817 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 3: this late stage? 818 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: I just feel they trust you now, they have you 819 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 2: took their hand in yours, Let me guide you, let 820 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 2: me show you. 821 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: And then you went to write a hot Dog and 822 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: they said may I have a bite of hot Dog? 823 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 2: And you said, oh, so busy? 824 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 3: I have to go like I yeah, but at some 825 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 3: point you know it's it's just you have to move on. 826 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 2: Kevin, can you have them keep it down out there? 827 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,959 Speaker 1: I saw Ben Rogers, I know Ben Rogers and John 828 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: Gabers maybe are out there. Can you have them be 829 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: quiet just while we're recording. 830 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 8: Sir Casey, when you do a second studio, if you 831 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 8: do one, a little sound proof and could be helpful 832 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 8: because there are people outside and they are having conversations 833 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 8: and sometimes they're being funny laughing. 834 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 2: I don't begrudge anyone having a big. 835 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: Laughed, but I but I do think that when you're 836 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: inside the studio doing the recording with the guests, like 837 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: Jamie wrote a book, we need to be able to 838 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: discuss it quiet. 839 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 4: Well. 840 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: See, I am a little frustrated because uh Ben and 841 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: Gabors know that they know that I wrote a book, 842 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 3: and they're still being you know, I didn't give them 843 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 3: the book. I didn't give them book the book. I've 844 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 3: only got something. 845 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 4: How do they know about it? You literally just said 846 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 4: they know about it? 847 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 3: They're literally well, I mean they're obsessed with the library. 848 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 3: They love reading. Not to call you guys out, but 849 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 3: like if you were at the library, you would know. 850 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 2: Okay, that's interesting. They have invited me to the library 851 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: a lot. 852 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 853 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: They said, you gotta see what's in there. They said, 854 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: the copy machine goes crazy. 855 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 3: It goes nuts. 856 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 4: And some of the some of the books have porno. 857 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: Well, they said, there's some adult books. There's adult humor, 858 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: some porno jokes. 859 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they actually are responsible for the curtain in 860 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 3: front of the adult books. I didn't used to be there, 861 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 3: oh Ibry, Yeah, yeah, but they saw some wanderers that 862 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 3: maybe shouldn't have been in that section, and I think 863 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 3: they did the right thing. 864 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 5: It used to be a screen door, and they were like, 865 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 5: well this is you know, it's affected so a breeze 866 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 5: can get in, which is nice and actually pretty. 867 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 4: Necessary if you're reading the curtain. Is my understanding you 868 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 4: can't get a stiff breeze is that It's. 869 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 5: Just it's it's keeping out the air flow in the 870 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 5: way that we do need to get some mirror back 871 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 5: in there. It's true without having the curtain be open. 872 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 3: Well, how would you like, so you have been to 873 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 3: the adult book section of. 874 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 4: Well, I'm you know, these are like my friends. 875 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: Like I actually I've gone there to pick them up 876 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: and stuff before or but never going to need to 877 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,720 Speaker 1: ride because they're like getting so crazy with these books. 878 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like myself to drive home. 879 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn't drive. 880 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,800 Speaker 4: But they're like sitting in the car. It's from personal experience. 881 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 5: And they got kind of like musty in there, like 882 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 5: behind the curtain, you know what I mean. They sort 883 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 5: of built up a little like film from like not 884 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 5: having the necessary air flow in there. 885 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: To take the top down on my old jiloppie? 886 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 4: You got any idea for a podcast? Finger on you? 887 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 5: If I'm hot Dog, I just want to say, like, 888 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 5: I'm sure hot Dog is feeling pretty good. 889 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 2: Right now, but look at the wake of destruction. 890 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 4: I'm different. Hot Dog is like I'm different. 891 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 2: Really likes me. I'm different. She won't maybe move on 892 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 2: to some other things. 893 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 3: And I won't. And I wouldn't do that, Okay, And 894 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 3: I think that people take stuff really personally. 895 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: What's the next stuff? Now that hot Dog has served 896 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 2: its purpose, You've used it up and spit it. 897 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 3: Out, I'm staying. I'm staying with hot Dog. I'm gonna 898 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stew, you know, kind of stew in the juice. 899 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 2: You can tell us, be honest, what's it gonna be? 900 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 3: No, I can't another food. 901 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 2: Another cartoon. 902 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 4: Did you eat your whole athletic Greens? 903 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? And I've kind of just been fucking around with 904 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: the I kind of forgot that there's video on, but 905 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 3: I bet the video would tell it twist. Uh yeah. 906 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 907 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: It was heating up in my hands, so I started 908 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 3: drinking it faster. 909 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: But I liked it. It's nice at Frush the Age one. Yeah, damn, 910 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: you get right about now a mouse? 911 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 3: No, I think that mouse is covered. The thing is like, yeah, 912 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 3: hot dog wasn't covered. Mouse. There's plenty of plenty of 913 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 3: mouse content out there. I don't want to I don't want 914 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 3: to clog up, you know. I don't want to speak 915 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 3: out of turn. I feel like I have nothing to add. 916 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 3: I thought about it, but I have nothing to add. 917 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just asking like, like literally, just. 918 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 4: Are you going to write a book about a mouse? No? Yes, no, no, no, 919 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 4: I'm not. 920 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: You're not doing a mouse. Okay, I think something else. 921 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 4: Okay, fine, no, free country. 922 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm not writing a book about a mouse. 923 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it. 924 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 2: It's really man's. 925 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 4: You think. 926 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 5: So you think the guy that that the other book 927 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 5: about a mouse is bad? 928 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 8: No? 929 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 3: I think it's so like I I think the hubris 930 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,840 Speaker 3: of trying to, you know, outdo Stuart. You know I 931 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 3: can't do that. That mouse could drive a cart. Yeah, 932 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 3: that mosk could drive a car, So I can't. You 933 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 3: know what am I going to do? 934 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: Mister Clean? The story of Mister Clean whole. 935 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, now, we're talking, I would be out. 936 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: Mister Clean, right, that's podcast book, whatever you want, but. 937 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,359 Speaker 4: That's you had a crush on him when you're kid 938 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 4: or something. 939 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you have to. You have to start with. 940 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: Steal the mister Clean bottle and hide it under my pillow. 941 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I actually. 942 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 8: Did. 943 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 3: You guys know I did a pilot about that. 944 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: High as hell. I'm still high off to mister Clean fumes. 945 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: That's why I'm writing so crazy blah blah blah blah 946 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: blah blah. 947 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 3: It's funny, first of all to say things like that. Okay, 948 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 3: and I like, I didn't end up. I would like 949 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 3: to finish my project about mister Clean. I think it's 950 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 3: a weird way to bring it up. 951 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I didn't know you did a pilot 952 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 2: about that. 953 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 3: I well I did, And yes, it did start with 954 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 3: a cute little anecdote that I made up. Yeah, and 955 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,879 Speaker 3: it started. I liked the cadence. I kind of hit 956 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 3: for that one too. I feel like it was really 957 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 3: coming into my own with a cadence where I was like, 958 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: mister Clean, you've heard of them, right, and then a 959 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: little music comes in and say, of course you've heard 960 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 3: of him? Maybe you saw him on TV when your 961 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 3: mom was watching soap operas. Maybe you saw him at 962 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 3: Chuck E Cheese when you were enjoying a slice of 963 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 3: pizza as a child. 964 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 5: That's where it lost me a little bit, because I 965 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 5: just don't think so you. 966 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 2: There. 967 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't see speistically to Chuck E Cheese. 968 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 3: I saw him at Chuck E Cheese. 969 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 4: Oh you did see it, Okay, but that's made up too. 970 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 3: This is all made up. Okay, yeah, I don't. My 971 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,719 Speaker 3: mom didn't watch soap operas. I didn't. We didn't go 972 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 3: to Chuck E Cheese. That's like one of the biggest 973 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 3: bullshit lives. I've been telling one for years. And then 974 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 3: the music changes a little more. 975 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 2: Didn't like soap operas? 976 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 3: You know there? Well, look, this isn't gonna some sob story. 977 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 3: Then the music changes a little bit again. I say, 978 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 3: but who is myster clean? And then we get some 979 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 3: voices in Oh my god. 980 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 2: These freaky guys. 981 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 4: The library always cut. 982 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 3: I can come in in. Sure, that's what we need here. 983 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 2: More bodies, Yeah, more bros. 984 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: More geez Okay, okay, you're not on mic right now? 985 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 2: Armed the mic? Well, it's spinning. 986 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: We're talking about raw dog and this just became a 987 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: real sausage fest. 988 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,839 Speaker 2: I'll show you what we got. 989 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 7: Two more feel little bros coming in. Well, you know, 990 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 7: I actually read the book and I loved it. 991 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: Okay, how did you get the book? 992 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 2: How'd you get it? Because she said she didn't give 993 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 2: it to you? 994 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 4: Now I bought it. Oh, you bought it. 995 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 3: And you guys could have done that. 996 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 6: Pre ordered on bookshop dot org. 997 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 8: My book is a critique of capitalism. 998 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the money doesn't go to me, It goes to 999 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 3: it goes to somebody else. It goes to uh, it 1000 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 3: goes to other organizations and people. 1001 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 9: Well, now I have to buy it because yeah, I 1002 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 9: am so big on organizations and yeah, like I have 1003 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 9: to put my money where my mouth is a little 1004 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 9: bit on this one because I've been saying for a 1005 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 9: long time that I'm like, mister people organizations guy. 1006 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,360 Speaker 4: You know you say that once or twice. 1007 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 2: Jesus, thank you record. 1008 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 4: I have his back on this. 1009 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 7: He's a big organizations guy. 1010 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's funny because I was thinking he was 1011 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 3: maybe bullshitting me on that one. But I mean, I'll 1012 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 3: take your word for it because you read the book. 1013 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 4: You know, I read the book. 1014 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 7: So I know the book, and I know where you stand, 1015 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 7: and I know where you guys stand. Sean won't stop 1016 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 7: talking about organizations. 1017 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like because it's because honestly, you said 1018 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: organizations and people. 1019 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 2: To me, organizations are really just the people that make 1020 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 2: them up and organize them. 1021 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 3: You know. 1022 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 2: You're all the same, right, Yeah. 1023 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,479 Speaker 4: It's your favorite part. 1024 00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 2: Uh, organizations, he of raw dog. 1025 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 7: I do have a real answer, say thee it's. 1026 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 3: Giving me a ship. About the foot we even talk 1027 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 3: about the content of the footnote. 1028 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,919 Speaker 7: Well, there's one point where a friend of yours gets 1029 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 7: bullied by a child who you say tough He said 1030 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 7: tough titties, old man. 1031 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 3: He didn't say tough. 1032 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 4: Shit I've ever heard. 1033 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 2: You think that's made up? I will say clean anecdote. 1034 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: There is the mister clean anecdote was fake. The chucky 1035 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 3: stuff was fake. Mostly how I've characterized my family and 1036 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 3: my life has been completely made up. But the tough 1037 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 3: titties old man anecdote is is real. And that's why 1038 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,919 Speaker 3: it's stuck with you is because it's the first truth 1039 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 3: thing I've ever written. 1040 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 7: Oh wow, yeah, okay, yeah, because I thought the part 1041 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 7: where you called my hometown, Buffalo, New York, a miserable 1042 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 7: place was also made up. 1043 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 3: Maybe Yeah, no, I think it's a really fun place. 1044 00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 3: I had the best time, and I actually stayed for 1045 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, but I didn't, you know, I 1046 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 3: was afraid of what people would say. 1047 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 4: I get that. Yeah, that makes sense. 1048 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: I'll tell you wings that wild don't come from a 1049 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: life of ease. You know, they come from hardship, have 1050 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 1: a story from being oppressed, pushed down, and that that 1051 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: is where you need to then spread some truly wild wings. 1052 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1053 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 2: I think that's Ohio franchise. 1054 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 7: I don't think it actually has anything to do with 1055 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 7: the city of Buffalo. 1056 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't care, like I'll give a ship. Okay, yeah, 1057 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 2: what are you talking about? 1058 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 4: What else do you think it's not? 1059 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, another episode of Ben thinks. You know what 1060 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: I mean? This ship was called fucking Hollo here. 1061 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 7: But you guys WAPs. I regretted at the moment I 1062 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 7: sat down. 1063 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 2: Well, you shouldn't have been in the window making crazy faces. 1064 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 7: I saw my three friends. 1065 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 4: I got excited. Yeah. 1066 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, trying to buy the book, trying to. 1067 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 7: Here's the thought, here's the thought for everybody buy this 1068 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 7: fucking book. 1069 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 3: I mean I would, and he's leaving. 1070 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, he doesn't believe in what he said, doesn't want 1071 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 2: to stay and defended. 1072 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, he can't back that up. He can't back that up, Kevin, 1073 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 3: did you eversion? 1074 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 4: The whole thing felt very orchestrated to me. 1075 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 5: Jamie's here, They've obviously communicated, he's read the book. 1076 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 2: He's read the book. 1077 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 4: He cuts up. What was the last thing he said 1078 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,760 Speaker 4: before he was leaving? 1079 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't I don't remembering, but so pissy. 1080 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 3: I think he was being great. I think he's been great, 1081 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 3: and I don't think that was scripted at all. I 1082 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 3: think that he was doing the right thing. 1083 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: I don't know who to trust anymore. 1084 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: Well, uh, the book is raw Dog? 1085 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 2: The book is what is that Lauren talking about the book? 1086 00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 5: He's introducing the book instead of a of a musical guest. 1087 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 4: But she doesn't really do ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, 1088 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 4: raw Dog. 1089 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 3: You can what I'm hoping. 1090 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,239 Speaker 2: It's just a zoom in book on a ship on 1091 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 2: the stage. 1092 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 3: You can play the audio book. That's like I could 1093 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 3: play the audio. You could play the audiobook. I'm hoping 1094 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 3: someone does it you. 1095 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,439 Speaker 1: Like people doing the audiobook or you'd rather they read 1096 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: the words the read the adio. 1097 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's not a podcast. People enjoy it, Yes, 1098 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,000 Speaker 3: I do. 1099 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 4: Which way? 1100 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 3: I want people to hold it in their hands? 1101 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 2: Hold the book? 1102 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, even though I don't do that. I don't like reading. 1103 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 4: Everyone can do that. 1104 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was very fucked up of me. 1105 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 2: That's okay, So people could get really hurt of aameless author. 1106 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 2: Jamie has written a book called raw Dog. 1107 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,359 Speaker 3: Well, not everyone can hear it either, So you've got 1108 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,440 Speaker 3: to have options. 1109 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 4: Great, but you just said that you could only do one, 1110 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 4: and then there's one thing you think. 1111 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 3: That Yeah, and also the right, the moral option is 1112 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 3: to hold it. 1113 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 6: Jamie can pitch you a comedy bank bank character you 1114 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 6: can do when you promote the raw Talk book. 1115 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 3: Bye, oh, I don't know 1116 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 4: Ho