Speaker 1: Hey, y'all.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you don't lie about that, right Lauren, Hey, y'all,
Speaker 3: what's up.
Speaker 2: It's Laura l Rosa And this is another episode of
Speaker 2: the Latest with Laura l Rosa. This is your deli
Speaker 2: dive on all things pop culture and a timid news
Speaker 2: and all of the conversations that shape the room.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 2: Now today we're gonna hop right on into the Latest.
Speaker 2: Let's get on into some news. So first up, Kanye West.
Speaker 2: So you guys know, Kanye West has been attempting to
Speaker 2: I would say smooth things over, but I don't even
Speaker 2: think that it's the smooth things over at this point
Speaker 2: with fans, with you know, corporations, with arenas, with the
Speaker 2: world at this point. But Kanye West has been attempting
Speaker 2: to patch things up or do something of the sorts.
Speaker 2: So he set out to do a few shows.
Speaker 3: This year and they were over in Europe.
Speaker 2: These various concert dates were either canceled or postponed, or
Speaker 2: one and then the other due to a lot of
Speaker 2: the backlash from his anti Semitic remarks. Most recently, the
Speaker 2: show in Poland, which was supposed to be June nineteenth,
Speaker 2: was canceled after officials said that it was unacceptable to
Speaker 2: host him given his history of hate speech. They called
Speaker 2: it a deliberate crossing of boundaries. His show in Switzerland
Speaker 2: was canceled as well. He also found his show in London.
Speaker 2: In the UK, he was supposed to headline a few
Speaker 2: days at Wireless Festival, which is a huge festival. I
Speaker 2: was actually surprised to even see that he was headlining
Speaker 2: this festival, if I'm being honest. That was also canceled,
Speaker 2: and showing France that he was supposed to do as well.
Speaker 2: To eleventh was postponed and definitely following first it was
Speaker 2: postponed and then it was postponed, and definitely following a
Speaker 2: lot of the backlash that they were getting, a lot
Speaker 2: of the authorities were getting pressures pressure over there about
Speaker 2: him coming and performing. Now Wireless Festival, I say I
Speaker 2: was surprised about him even doing because a lot of
Speaker 2: these one off shows are like, you know, we always
Speaker 2: talk about like celebrity and celebrity culture and cancel culture
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, what that even looks like and
Speaker 2: if it's even honestly like a real thing, not even
Speaker 2: whether it's real, but whether it actually sticks and sustains
Speaker 2: enough to stop a person's business.
Speaker 3: Larger than their celebrity.
Speaker 2: You know, We've had these conversations with other artists, uh
Speaker 2: the Baby, but not for.
Speaker 3: The same reasons.
Speaker 2: Nick Cannon at one point was being, you know, put
Speaker 2: in this antestemitic conversation, and then you know he had
Speaker 2: went and had a conversation with a rabbi and kind
Speaker 2: of has moved forward since. But Kanye West, this is
Speaker 2: always been a bit of a different conversation for.
Speaker 3: Him because of his celebrity.
Speaker 2: Now, if I'm being honest, the reason why I say
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see him on Wireless Festival was
Speaker 2: because even though I know he has a cult audience,
Speaker 2: even though I know his celebrity to me and my opinion,
Speaker 2: still shines brighten a lot.
Speaker 3: Of the things that he's done, he said, which.
Speaker 2: Was proved by all of the sold out nights that
Speaker 2: he did prior to all of these shows at the Sofi.
Speaker 2: You know Arena in La Sofi, sayed him in La
Speaker 2: I just didn't think that a brand will honestly take
Speaker 2: the risk of getting behind him. You know those shows
Speaker 2: that he did at Sofi, these other shows outside of
Speaker 2: Wireless Fest, those were not one off because you know,
Speaker 2: they're big, they're planned, their stadium shows. You know, Kanye
Speaker 2: West brings people out, but so it's not like he's
Speaker 2: popping up at a hole in a while when I
Speaker 2: say one off, But it's Kanye West's name drawing the
Speaker 2: people out on festivals, it's a bit different. The sponsors
Speaker 2: look a bit different, you know. Know, things for the
Speaker 2: touring company, promotional company are set up a bit differently
Speaker 2: because of you know, you're coming behind someone's name, you're
Speaker 2: coming on someone else's merit. That is was a big
Speaker 2: surprise for me, especially to be headlining it. When I
Speaker 2: saw that announcement, that's when I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is going to be the test on.
Speaker 3: Whether or not.
Speaker 2: A lot of people who were affected by the remarks
Speaker 2: that he made, a lot of Jewish people that were
Speaker 2: affected by the remarks that he made, whether we would
Speaker 2: see if you know they've forgiven and actually believe the
Speaker 2: apologies that he set out to give. Now that was
Speaker 2: proven to not be true. And I don't want to
Speaker 2: say that that one canceled, that one canceled festival and
Speaker 2: these other shows that surround it speak for all Jewish people,
Speaker 2: But I think that it was a good representation of
Speaker 2: the fact that there are still people in places that
Speaker 2: are able to make decisions, which is, you know what
Speaker 2: Kanye West was really against in the beginning. Who don't
Speaker 2: buy it? I mean, we saw him sat down with
Speaker 2: a rabbi almost about a year or so ago. He
Speaker 2: issued a letter of apology as an ad through the
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal in the beginning of this year, and
Speaker 2: that was titled to those I've heard, And in that letter,
Speaker 2: Kanye West is talking to not just the Jewish community,
Speaker 2: He's talking to Black people as well too, because you know,
Speaker 2: we're part of this conversation in a big way. I
Speaker 2: don't think, in my opinion, I don't think we've seen
Speaker 2: him lean toward enough when it comes to apologizing overhear
Speaker 2: to us. But I think, you know, we've kind of
Speaker 2: like reaccepted him back into a lot of our spaces,
Speaker 2: and I know a lot of that conversation is like
Speaker 2: you know, it's like he's one of us, So how
Speaker 2: do we cast him to the side?
Speaker 3: Throw him away? But I know people who feel opposite. Now.
Speaker 2: In the letter that he posted to the Wall Street
Speaker 2: Journal back in January, he did mention, you know that
Speaker 2: a lot of his like episodes and things that we
Speaker 2: were seeing when he was on these anti Semitic rants,
Speaker 2: when he was degrading black people in our history came from,
Speaker 2: you know, a misdiagnosis of neurological issues and various medicines
Speaker 2: that he had been taking and you know, or or
Speaker 2: lack of and not wanting to get help for a
Speaker 2: lot of these things, which he said that he's corrected,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of people that aren't buying it.
Speaker 3: And he's still on this apology tour.
Speaker 2: So Kanye West was spotted leaving the Simon Wisenthal Center
Speaker 2: in Beverly Hills Monday night, and TMZ tried to get
Speaker 2: some information from him about why he was there.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, can I ask you what'd you last night
Speaker 3: at the class? Any thoughts on the festival being canceled?
Speaker 1: And the band.
Speaker 2: Thinks, now the Simon Wisenthal Center is a Jewish human
Speaker 2: rights organization. It was established back in seventy seven by
Speaker 2: Rabbi Marvin Higher. Here I may be saying that last
Speaker 2: name incorrectly, I apologize. The Center is known for Holocaust
Speaker 2: research in remembrance, hunting Nazi war criminals, combating anti Semitism,
Speaker 2: tolerance education, defending Israel in the Museum of Tolerance. So
Speaker 2: it's kind of obvious why he's there, even though we
Speaker 2: all do want to have a more definite answer of
Speaker 2: like what exactly he's doing, what exactly he's working through,
Speaker 2: and how he expects this to change anything for him
Speaker 2: in the public eye, especially because we've publicly seen him
Speaker 2: meet sit have conversations with the rabbis, conversations of which
Speaker 2: have been released to the public, and there's still this pushback.
Speaker 2: So you know, I just don't know what that boundary
Speaker 2: looks like for him.
Speaker 3: He's been able to really music.
Speaker 2: He released Bully finally that dropped and it did well.
Speaker 2: It did actually really well. But again, I think when
Speaker 2: you have those conversations about Kanye and him dropping music,
Speaker 2: it's not really a surprise as something like a Bully
Speaker 2: does well, because there's still that element of celebrity, which
Speaker 2: a lot of powers that be just can't take away
Speaker 2: from you. But when he released it, it released it on
Speaker 2: a March twenty seventh of this year, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: The lead single from it was Father, which was a
Speaker 2: song that he did with Travis Scott. He dropped the
Speaker 2: video for that as well, which his wife Bianka Sensori directed,
Speaker 2: and yet I mean it charted, It broke Spotify records.
Speaker 2: He had features, you know, there were Don Tolliver, Travis
Speaker 2: Scott's Heelo Green, Gamma is behind Him, which is Larry
Speaker 2: Jackson's label, and they're you know, very adamant and trying
Speaker 2: to you know, figure all of this stuff out.
Speaker 3: I got.
Speaker 2: There's my question is here is like, at what point
Speaker 2: does Kanye stop right like or does he like, is
Speaker 2: there a point where he has sat down, been educated enough,
Speaker 2: apologized enough, and now he's actually able to maneuver and
Speaker 2: move around in business and performance and all of these
Speaker 2: things in a way that he wants to or has
Speaker 2: he ruined that for himself so much that there's no
Speaker 2: coming back from it. That's like an honest question that
Speaker 2: I you know, would love to get an answer to and.
Speaker 3: To be honest with you.
Speaker 2: Like, one of the biggest things that I'm wondering is,
Speaker 2: like who even answers that question? Like there's no one
Speaker 2: unique body of people that answers that question. It's various.
Speaker 2: You know, there are various different people. When I say
Speaker 2: that things were canceled and there was pushback, there were
Speaker 2: various different people in different places who made these decisions
Speaker 2: not collectively but singlely made these decisions on their own
Speaker 2: based off of leading their people and wanting to protect
Speaker 2: their people and wanted to set a standard for their people.
Speaker 3: And you know, you can't be mad about that. But
Speaker 3: who answers that question?
Speaker 2: And watching Kanye West now and you know he's here
Speaker 2: in Beverly Hills now and he's you know, at learning
Speaker 2: and educating himself and you know, doing all the things right,
Speaker 2: what does that look like a year from now, two
Speaker 2: years from now, Like, is there going to be a
Speaker 2: un tapped like unbothered, there's no pushback, We're gonna allow
Speaker 2: you to come back and be Kanye West's moment For
Speaker 2: Kanye again, that leads into him just being able to
Speaker 2: go on and you know, say that he made a
Speaker 2: mistake or two or three or four or five or
Speaker 2: six and you know, be able to go on about
Speaker 2: his career. Is that possible. We'll keep you guys updated
Speaker 2: on what happens. I mean, there are still some shows
Speaker 2: that he has out of the US oude of the
Speaker 2: country that plan that he plans to go on and
Speaker 2: do so, I mean the Netherlands. At the same time
Speaker 2: with Poland, cans So said, hey, we don't agree with
Speaker 2: his anti semitism. It's disgusting, but that is no legal
Speaker 2: bounds for us to stop him from performing. So it's
Speaker 2: working in some places. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: like I've heard people say, you know, he's doing all
Speaker 2: of this to apologize to people of the Jewish community
Speaker 2: that have been affected by his words and his actions,
Speaker 2: but it's not enough to the black community. And after
Speaker 2: seeing him leaving this place in Beverly Hills, I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like I agree with that now.
Speaker 3: And I love Kanye West. I'm one of the.
Speaker 2: People that are like, look, we got who we got,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And you might not deal
Speaker 2: with them the same way, but to not deal with
Speaker 2: him at all, knowing what he means to us just creatively,
Speaker 2: but like, yes, it does need to be tamed. It
Speaker 2: does need to be educated, it does need to be
Speaker 2: kind of put in this not even team because I
Speaker 2: feel like artists in the word changes don't go hand
Speaker 2: in hand. But you know, there has to be some
Speaker 2: sense of response ability that we hold him to.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. And what does that look like
Speaker 3: for us?
Speaker 2: You guys will remember we talked to Derek Johnson, who
Speaker 2: is CEO of the NAACP here on the latest with
Speaker 2: long Rods of the podcast.
Speaker 3: Please go check out that prior episode.
Speaker 2: From our first season because yes we are in season
Speaker 2: two and take a listen to that. And you know
Speaker 2: we talked to him about the fact that Kanye West
Speaker 2: hadn't even I mean, if we have premiere organizations that
Speaker 2: he would talk to, the NAACP would be that and
Speaker 2: they hadn't even received a phone call from him. And
Speaker 2: you know, we'll go back and check that, but at
Speaker 2: this time that that was what was fact. But what
Speaker 2: does he do to apologize even further for us and
Speaker 2: educate himself. I don't even think it's just about the apologies,
Speaker 2: It's about the change behavior. What do you guys think
Speaker 2: I want to hear from y'all? Take it to the
Speaker 2: streets and the tweets. I'm Lauren, the roads that everywhere
Speaker 2: l O r e N l O R O s A.
Speaker 2: Will Kanye West ever be able to return back to
Speaker 2: all things entertainment touring successfully or has he really done
Speaker 2: it for himself? And when I say that, I do
Speaker 2: say that loosely because Kanye is still making money awf
Speaker 2: of what he can do. Let's not get that apped up. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's we'll talk about it in another episode. Now before
Speaker 2: we get on out of here, I wanted to present
Speaker 2: you guys with an update, a very sad update. I
Speaker 2: actually was kind of going back and forth about whether
Speaker 2: or not to even report this or have a conversation
Speaker 2: about just because of how sad it it is. We
Speaker 2: did an interview with a mother. Her name is LaVette.
Speaker 2: She's from Warmington, Delaware, which is where I'm from, and
Speaker 2: we had a conversation about black and missing people and
Speaker 2: children and just the lack there that they, you know,
Speaker 2: their cases received when it comes to media attention, when
Speaker 2: it comes to police help, when it comes to finding
Speaker 2: our people.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 2: Interview, just just a quick listen to give you guys
Speaker 2: some background on her daughter, Aisha bent Hadifa, who was
Speaker 2: missing at the time. Because we have an update on Ayisha,
Speaker 2: let's sick.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 1: My name is live at Bryce. I'm looking for my daughter,
Speaker 1: August Benny Daeva. Her name is Aisha. She went missing.
Speaker 1: I live right here on South Franklin. She was last
Speaker 1: seen down here on Franklin and Elm. We've been out
Speaker 1: here every day since the twenty second looking for.
Speaker 2: I'm sad to report that Ayisha was found, but she
Speaker 2: was not found alive. She was found deceased a few
Speaker 2: days ago here in New York City. There's no current
Speaker 2: additional details as to why she was in New York.
Speaker 2: You know that is a two hour drive in a
Speaker 2: car on a bus that is about two hours forty
Speaker 2: five minutes depending on the bus, same thing on a train,
Speaker 2: so you know that transportation of Aysha would have been
Speaker 2: very deliberate. And there's no update on you know, how
Speaker 2: she got here to New York. But her mother went
Speaker 2: live on Instagram because she's kind of been the only
Speaker 2: updates we've been receiving because the media hasn't really covered
Speaker 2: it a lot, to let us know that they found
Speaker 2: her baby and she was not alive.
Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to her mom.
Speaker 1: Said, I couldn't because I've been telling them and I've
Speaker 1: been asking, and I've been telling them. I've been going,
Speaker 1: like yo, going, got.
Speaker 3: Any tears left to cry?
Speaker 1: Because if they hadn't helped me from day one, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here today, man, like yo, Like I felt
Speaker 1: that shit.
Speaker 3: I felt that shit.
Speaker 1: I felt I felt it. I felt it. Man, y'all
Speaker 1: don't even understand when I say I know mine kids.
Speaker 1: I know my kids. Oh man, like yo, this can't
Speaker 1: be life.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't even got nothing, like I
Speaker 1: really don't. I'm gonna still look for the rest of
Speaker 1: them because it's not.
Speaker 3: It don't make sense.
Speaker 1: Like it don't make sense, yo, stay so adamant or
Speaker 1: kids just run away? And I know my baby like yo,
Speaker 1: I like yo, man, yo crazy yoa.
Speaker 2: This is not the outcome that we wanted, of course,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like when you hear stories
Speaker 2: like this, and you know, Aisha was a baby still
Speaker 2: she was only nineteen years old. When you hear stories
Speaker 2: like this, nobody should have to bury their child. Nobody
Speaker 2: should have to bury their child. And you know, I'm
Speaker 2: sure her mother is living with so many I wish
Speaker 2: I would have. I wish I could have. You know,
Speaker 2: she was screaming at the top of her lung for
Speaker 2: help anywhere she could get it. I haven't spoken to
Speaker 2: her on the phone. I called her the day after
Speaker 2: I saw the video. I just kind of wanted to
Speaker 2: give her, like a day. I figured everybody would be
Speaker 2: reaching out to her just to you know, send my
Speaker 2: condolences and send her some love. And didn't hear back
Speaker 2: from her. And then a few days later I just
Speaker 2: shot our text and was just like, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: thinking about you again today, sending you some love. And
Speaker 2: she was very appreciative of the podcast, and you guys
Speaker 2: as the low riders in the podcast community and everybody
Speaker 2: that you know reached out to her following our episode
Speaker 2: in our interview with information or you know, whatever you
Speaker 2: guys could do, just support repost of her daughter's photo
Speaker 2: when she was still looking for her daughter, she says,
Speaker 2: you know the podcast community. In that interview, literally her
Speaker 2: words were, good morning. I just want to say thank you.
Speaker 2: You helped us in ways you don't even know. Just
Speaker 2: so you know, I am not done, she had told
Speaker 2: us during that interview, and again you guys can go
Speaker 2: back and check out that full interview season one one
Speaker 2: of our previous episodes of the Latest with Lauren la
Speaker 2: Rowse of the podcast, she had told us that, you know,
Speaker 2: once she found her baby, her mission was not complete.
Speaker 2: She wanted to help other mothers, other parents, you know,
Speaker 2: other people, families who were going through this, missing people
Speaker 2: that look like us, these black and brown people that
Speaker 2: look like us who were not receiving the attention, the care,
Speaker 2: the alerts, and a lot of things that they deserved.
Speaker 2: And it seems like that's the mission that she's going
Speaker 2: to continue on.
Speaker 3: So I let her know.
Speaker 2: You know, whenever you need the platform, feel free to
Speaker 2: give me a call. But man, this is not the
Speaker 2: ending that we wanted to hear at all. So we're
Speaker 2: sending her lots of love. If you're listening, we are
Speaker 2: with you. I send you a hug, some comfort. I
Speaker 2: know our words are not enough. It will never take
Speaker 2: the place of your child, and you know what you're
Speaker 2: going through right now, but sending you as much love
Speaker 2: and as much comfort and prayers as we can. I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry for your loss. This is you just never.
Speaker 2: This is as a reporter, this is never the ending
Speaker 2: of a follow up you want to report, but as
Speaker 2: a person, this is never something you want to see.
Speaker 2: I'll keep you guys posting on any further updates here.
Speaker 3: I'm Laura l. Rosa. This has been another episode of
Speaker 3: the Ladies with Laura Rosa. I tell you guys all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: You guys could be anywhere with any old body, talking
Speaker 2: about all these things, but you choose to be right here,
Speaker 2: my lowriders. I'll catch you in my next episode.