Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of
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Speaker 1: Listener Mail. This is Robert Lamb and this is Joe McCormick.
Speaker 1: And Rob your back for your first listener mail. In
Speaker 1: a bit, I did a couple without you there. It's
Speaker 1: good to have you back on the mic. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad you were there fighting the mail bag,
Speaker 1: keeping it from becoming two overstuffed lest it erupt all
Speaker 1: over us. UM. You know, one of the things I
Speaker 1: did while I was out is I finished rereading Dune
Speaker 1: by Frank Herbert, and then I reread Dune Messiah, the
Speaker 1: second one in this series, and I did want to
Speaker 1: update for anyone out there who cares about this as
Speaker 1: much as I do. UM. One of the things that
Speaker 1: I ended up doing an artifact episode regarding is the
Speaker 1: idea of donkeys of Dune, because it's it's mentioned in
Speaker 1: UM in the appendices for for the first Dune novel
Speaker 1: that that's still that there there had there are donkeys
Speaker 1: on the planet Iracus. They are sometimes outfitted in still suits,
Speaker 1: and they're they're used either too, you know, for mild
Speaker 1: carrying of things around and they're sometimes used for milk
Speaker 1: um as as a dairy um animal. And so in
Speaker 1: that Artifact episode, I speculated on why this could be.
Speaker 1: You know, part of my thinking was that, well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like like Frank Herbert ever did anything in
Speaker 1: his Dune novels without a lot of thought going into it.
Speaker 1: So it couldn't just be a random choice that there
Speaker 1: are donkeys on Iraqus, but there don't seem to be
Speaker 1: camels on Iraqus. Um. You know, both are are animals
Speaker 1: that are that are adapt at at desert environments. But
Speaker 1: but why the donkey and not the camel. So I
Speaker 1: talked about that for a little bit. And then when
Speaker 1: I reread Dune Messiah Lo and Behold, there's one little
Speaker 1: passage in there which is kind of as a as
Speaker 1: an off handed remark that mentioned that the fremen of
Speaker 1: Iracus would not know about the camel, like the camel
Speaker 1: is specifically mentioned as being an animal of the Golden
Speaker 1: Age of Earth. Uh So, still I don't have any
Speaker 1: you know. He there's no little note there where Herbert
Speaker 1: describes why in great detail he decided to go with
Speaker 1: the donkey rather than the camel. I expect that it
Speaker 1: might line up with some of the ideas I presented,
Speaker 1: but he does seem to double down in Messiah on
Speaker 1: there being no camels whatsoever on the planet. Well, glad
Speaker 1: to get that information, But wait a minute, no, are
Speaker 1: your ideas that? What? That? Would it be that the
Speaker 1: camel is extinct by the time of of the Dune
Speaker 1: novels or that or that what like the Benny jesse
Speaker 1: At have conspired not to let knowledge of the camel spread. Basically,
Speaker 1: my my critique was that based on some some really
Speaker 1: excellent sources, there have been whole books written about like
Speaker 1: the role of uh, you know that, the history of
Speaker 1: the use of of of the donkey, the history of
Speaker 1: the use the camel, and it's all you know. You know,
Speaker 1: you can also get into various comparisons about how they
Speaker 1: good they are energy wise, but basically it seems like
Speaker 1: the camel is more useful for longer distances and greater cargo.
Speaker 1: And it seems like on a rack, as you know,
Speaker 1: first of all, you're dealing with with an age in
Speaker 1: which you have things like ornithopters and you can fly around.
Speaker 1: You you have more, you have other means of transportation
Speaker 1: that are available to you. Also, you can't just while
Speaker 1: the camel would be perfect for moving across long distances
Speaker 1: over the desert, you can't very well do that if
Speaker 1: you have sandworms around, because unless you have somehow taught
Speaker 1: the camel to walk with no rhythm, it's just gonna
Speaker 1: wind up in the belly of the sand worm. Well.
Speaker 1: One of the other arguments that is often made in
Speaker 1: comparing camels and donkeys is the camel is a more
Speaker 1: extensive animal, so if you have to go with one, uh, like,
Speaker 1: the cost of the donkey is less than the cost
Speaker 1: of keeping a camel, or so it seems. I accept.
Speaker 1: And then I guess you've got to somehow get enough
Speaker 1: camels too, Iracus to begin with, I mean camels or donkeys,
Speaker 1: So maybe that's part of it too. Um, you have
Speaker 1: to factor in how many are you bringing. I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's additional computation you can make on it.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I was excited just to see
Speaker 1: it mentioned again. I didn't remember this from from my
Speaker 1: previous reading up doing Messiah. So uh, here's hoping that
Speaker 1: the Children of Doone continues this trend and offers more
Speaker 1: juicy tidbits about donkeys on the planet Iracus. Yes, here's hoping. Well, Rob,
Speaker 1: if you don't mind, I guess I'm going to jump
Speaker 1: right into our first message from a listener with this
Speaker 1: email from Renata. Let's do it, okay, Renata says, Hi, Rob,
Speaker 1: Joe and Seth short time listener, frequent emailer. I started
Speaker 1: listening in the summer of one and have been working
Speaker 1: my way back through your catalog. I have a story
Speaker 1: to tell about water tasting, but first I want a
Speaker 1: shaff phenomenon I recently came across that reminded me of
Speaker 1: the Moses Effect. I guess water tasting would tie into
Speaker 1: our episodes on Thursday, and the Moses effect was something
Speaker 1: we discussed in a recent Vault episode. Now, if you
Speaker 1: haven't listened to the episode, the Moses effect is uh
Speaker 1: is an example of a type of type of phenomenon
Speaker 1: known as knowledge neglect, where you can ask somebody a
Speaker 1: question like how many of each type of animal did
Speaker 1: Moses take onto the arc? And most people will say too,
Speaker 1: even though they know that it was Noah and not
Speaker 1: Moses who took animals onto the ark. They're just like,
Speaker 1: they just ignore that semantic error in the question and
Speaker 1: answer it as if you had said Noah. And they're
Speaker 1: all kinds of interesting little implications of knowledge and neglect.
Speaker 1: But Ronata goes on to say, there's another type of
Speaker 1: linguistic allusion called the comparative illusion. Most people report that
Speaker 1: they understand a sentence like this one. Here you go
Speaker 1: more people have been to Berlin than I have. Understand.
Speaker 1: That just kind of breaks my brain to to to
Speaker 1: hear that. I mean, it's the kind of thing that
Speaker 1: if you're asked to focus on it, yeah, it sounds
Speaker 1: wrong because it's actually a nonsensical sentence. But if you
Speaker 1: if it just came quickly in a conversation, it would
Speaker 1: go right over me. I would just be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand what that means. I mean, I guess they're
Speaker 1: trying to say, like, more people within my circle have
Speaker 1: been to Berlin than I. It still breaks my brain. Sorry,
Speaker 1: even that wouldn't make any sense, would it? Really? Okay?
Speaker 1: So Ranada goes on to explain, She says, but this
Speaker 1: sentence makes less sense the more you think about it.
Speaker 1: At first, blush, I interpret the sentence to mean I
Speaker 1: have not been to Berlin. Most other people have. Um, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. She says, I'm curious if it
Speaker 1: means something different to you. To understand the issue with
Speaker 1: the sentence, an example of a well formed comparison sentence
Speaker 1: may help. Quote more people have been to Berlin than
Speaker 1: those who have been to Fiji. The first half of
Speaker 1: the sentence A is the number of people who have
Speaker 1: been to Berlin. The second half of the sentence B
Speaker 1: is the number of people who have been to Fiji.
Speaker 1: The second sentence is saying A is greater than B. However,
Speaker 1: in the first sentence I gave while A is the same,
Speaker 1: the second half of the sentence isn't referring to a
Speaker 1: set of people. And if I understand the grammatical explanation,
Speaker 1: that's where the problem arises. The sentence is almost a
Speaker 1: Yogi barra is m When you stop to think about it,
Speaker 1: you're saying that the set of everyone who has been
Speaker 1: to Berlin is greater than yourself. It's a statement either
Speaker 1: so obviously true that it's uninformative, or it has no
Speaker 1: meaning at all. Maybe we can come back to more
Speaker 1: about this after the emails done. But I also wanted
Speaker 1: to read so Ranada has comments on water tasting. She
Speaker 1: writes this is in response to your series about thirst.
Speaker 1: Coffee making is another profession that pays close attention to
Speaker 1: the composition and taste of water. My partner is a
Speaker 1: barista and one of the things he likes to do
Speaker 1: is organized coffee tastings where he makes the same coffee
Speaker 1: with the same method of preparation and every other variable
Speaker 1: controlled except the water source. He'll use local tap water,
Speaker 1: distilled water, and water with different mineralities, and the results
Speaker 1: are staggering. My partner has trained his brain to identify
Speaker 1: subtle differences in flavors, but even to the novice taster
Speaker 1: like me, the coffee tastes entirely different based on the water,
Speaker 1: mostly impacting acidity and bitterness. We live in Wisconsin currently
Speaker 1: and the water is extremely hard. Any coffee nerd living
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin knows we have to make our own water
Speaker 1: for coffee. My partner and I distill our own water
Speaker 1: and add a mixture of minerals to produce the proper
Speaker 1: concentration per gallon. Fortunately, you can now buy preportioned mineral packets. Wow,
Speaker 1: that that is dedication to coffee. When they said we
Speaker 1: have to make our own water for coffee again, apologies,
Speaker 1: I've just been reading a lot of dune recently. I
Speaker 1: was just imagining like the frem and coffee, and you're
Speaker 1: having to use like a still about to prepare. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter that it was once tears and an armpits wet.
Speaker 1: It is clean now. I mean it has an all
Speaker 1: water been tier in armpit sweat at some point, Yes,
Speaker 1: every glass of water you drink is full of water
Speaker 1: that was once dinosaur urine, dinosaur feces, somebody's diarrhea. It's
Speaker 1: it's all the same water. By the way, there is
Speaker 1: a recipe for friend and coffee in the Dune Encyclopedia,
Speaker 1: so at some point I'm going to fire that up. Okay.
Speaker 1: Going back to the email, Ranada said, Okay. So she
Speaker 1: said she and her partner live in Wisconsin now, but
Speaker 1: a few years ago they moved to New Zealand, and
Speaker 1: she says, distilled water isn't readily available to buy, and
Speaker 1: we didn't have a distiller ourselves. At first, we were
Speaker 1: distraught that our coffee would taste bad, but it turned
Speaker 1: out that our tap water was actually quite close to ideal.
Speaker 1: This fascinated and excited my partner, so when he saw
Speaker 1: an advertisement for a water tasting event, he just had
Speaker 1: to go, thinking he would find they're like minded flavor
Speaker 1: enthusiasts like himself. She you're enough. They brought waters from
Speaker 1: around New Zealand and the world and had participants guests
Speaker 1: the origin. But he was moldly embarrassed to learn that
Speaker 1: this was put on as a joke and the organizers
Speaker 1: weren't going to educate him on why the waters tasted
Speaker 1: the way they did. And then she attaches a news
Speaker 1: article about the event, and then one final question, she says,
Speaker 1: did you know that there was an NPR piece on
Speaker 1: the science of drinking? Uh? This is drinking water, not
Speaker 1: drinking alcohol, the science of drinking that was published at
Speaker 1: about the same time as your episodes. Coincidence or were
Speaker 1: you inspired by this research? And then she links to
Speaker 1: an NPR piece and finally says, love your show, wish
Speaker 1: you and your family is a great two. Thank you
Speaker 1: for bringing me and so many others joy all the best. Renata, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for not a great email. Uh okay,
Speaker 1: I guess to take things in more or less random order.
Speaker 1: You know, when you said the water tasting event was
Speaker 1: a joke, I thought, surely the joke was going to
Speaker 1: be that all the water actually came out of the
Speaker 1: same hose round back outside the restaurant. But I didn't
Speaker 1: see any obvious indication of this in the article. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe I missed it somehow. Uh So, so I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what you're getting at there. What seems like the
Speaker 1: like New Zealander humor can be a little a little dry, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard to It may be hard to get
Speaker 1: to to to to catch on too, if you're you're
Speaker 1: looking in the wrong direction. I know people have done
Speaker 1: that before, like you know, selling people on the idea
Speaker 1: of here's various fancy bottled waters, but it all came
Speaker 1: out of a hose. Oh yeah. And then of course
Speaker 1: they're they're various wine experiments. Uh. But meaning to come
Speaker 1: back to that on the on the show, because I
Speaker 1: know we have like there was like an old episode
Speaker 1: where we very briefly talked about one of these studies
Speaker 1: where they're you know, they're kind of doing a gotcha
Speaker 1: moment by saying, ah, you were not you know you
Speaker 1: you you were just confusing. You confused red wine with
Speaker 1: white wine, uh and uh and so forth, which I
Speaker 1: mean some of that I think can be illuminating about
Speaker 1: you know how much you know, language and and priming
Speaker 1: we put into our experience of taste sensations at a
Speaker 1: glass of wine or a beer or anything. But but
Speaker 1: on the other hand, like all of that is important,
Speaker 1: Like you can't I feel like it's kind of cheap
Speaker 1: to discount like knowledge of where something came from, or
Speaker 1: the history that went into the culture, the traditions that
Speaker 1: went into it, and just bloil it all down to
Speaker 1: just this pure sensory experience, because that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: not how we work with our our food culture. Oh sure, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder about I know some of the studies you're
Speaker 1: talking about where they like give people cheap wine and
Speaker 1: ask them to do tasting notes as if it's super expensive,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, you didn't even know this
Speaker 1: was cheap or whatever. I don't know, I think that
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I don't want to be too
Speaker 1: critical because I'm not actually looking at those studies right now,
Speaker 1: but I remember looking at some of that stuff and
Speaker 1: thinking that it was kind of leaving out some important
Speaker 1: factors of of like the experience of tasting things in general. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but anyway, yeah, well we can come back to it.
Speaker 1: We could definitely look at that. Uh So, As for
Speaker 1: the question about the timing of thirst stories on our
Speaker 1: show and on NPR, No, I didn't have any idea,
Speaker 1: and I think the episodes were my idea to do so, Rob,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard this at the same time,
Speaker 1: but this just happens sometimes. I remember people used to
Speaker 1: ask us about this, especially when it would happen on
Speaker 1: different How Stuff Works podcasts, Like occasionally stuff you should
Speaker 1: Know would cover the same topic as us in the
Speaker 1: same week, and people would ask if we did that
Speaker 1: on purpose. Uh No, I mean, we don't collaborate on
Speaker 1: on like planning topics out or anything like that. And honestly,
Speaker 1: I think if we could predict that in advance, we
Speaker 1: would avoid it since we have a lot of audience overlap.
Speaker 1: So it just happens, like generally, if there if I
Speaker 1: hear something really cool on NPR or certainly on another podcast,
Speaker 1: and I don't listen to a ton of podcasts, but occasionally,
Speaker 1: you know, I listen to something and um, and if
Speaker 1: I do hear something cool and think, oh, that would
Speaker 1: be a cool topic for us to explore, I would
Speaker 1: The added part of that is explore and maybe you know,
Speaker 1: three to six months. We can't really jump on it
Speaker 1: right now because I feel like they just they just
Speaker 1: did a great job with that. What what could we
Speaker 1: contribute at this point? Yeah, actually the same here. I
Speaker 1: would say that, um, you know, ultimately, everything I suggest
Speaker 1: to cover on the podcast is pretty much necessarily because
Speaker 1: of something I read somewhere else. Ultimately, but uh, there's
Speaker 1: usually a bigger time lag. It's something I read months
Speaker 1: ago which kind of ferments in my brain for a while,
Speaker 1: and then I eventually come back around to it. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The main exception to this, I would imagine would be
Speaker 1: when when we occasionally have guests on and sometimes those
Speaker 1: guests have a book coming out, and so uh yeah
Speaker 1: you hear Mary Roach talking about her new book on
Speaker 1: our show, and yes she's also talking about the new
Speaker 1: book on this other podcast or on this NPR shows
Speaker 1: that you know, obviously, all that ends up landing around
Speaker 1: the same time publishing timelines. Yeah. Yeah. But finally coming
Speaker 1: back to your idea of the comparative illusion, and it's
Speaker 1: it's similarity to the Moses effect. I really love this.
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting. It's it's just another indication
Speaker 1: that there is something so much more to verbal communication
Speaker 1: than just a literal reading of the words in each
Speaker 1: sentence we speak or here, since we can so often
Speaker 1: say things or I think especially can pose questions that
Speaker 1: are literally nonsensical as phrased, and yet somehow most of
Speaker 1: the time people understand what we're trying to say. We
Speaker 1: understand what we're hearing, and we just take it in
Speaker 1: stride and respond as if the person phrase the question correctly,
Speaker 1: which you know, we assume is what they were trying
Speaker 1: to ask. Right now, I want to come back to
Speaker 1: the the idea of of different waters being selected for
Speaker 1: the brewing of coffee. Um, somebody should take this and
Speaker 1: run with it, like pick a particular water and make
Speaker 1: that be like the guiding principle behind your your coffee franchise.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like Florida Water Coffee. That can well, you
Speaker 1: can to just take the world by storm with that.
Speaker 1: Oh Man. To revisit a recent show topic, heavy Water
Speaker 1: Coffee company, it's all you know, you get your du tier. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's a it's a risky it's a risky lifestyle,
Speaker 1: but it's the heaviest Okay, Rob, do you wanna let's
Speaker 1: see do you want to do. This message from Brett
Speaker 1: connecting to some older episodes we've done about the ant
Speaker 1: parasite fungus Opeo cor deceps. Sure Brett writes in and says, Hey,
Speaker 1: Robin Joe, I know you guys have touched on zombie
Speaker 1: ant fungus many times, but I don't recall you mentioning
Speaker 1: this study from Apparently the researchers discovered through electron microscopy
Speaker 1: that the fungus weaves into and around muscle fibers throughout
Speaker 1: the body, but doesn't invade the brain. To quote the
Speaker 1: paper quote, fungal cells were found throughout the host body
Speaker 1: but not in the brain, implying the behavioral control of
Speaker 1: the animal body by this microbe occurs peripherally. Additionally, fungal
Speaker 1: cells invaded host muscle fibers enjoyed together to form net
Speaker 1: works that encircled the muscles. These networks may represent a
Speaker 1: collective foraging behavior of this parasite, which may in turn
Speaker 1: facilitate host manipulation unquote. So the question I post to
Speaker 1: you too is this what is scarier at parasite living
Speaker 1: in your brain and turning you into a zombie or
Speaker 1: the parasite leaving your brain fully in tact so that
Speaker 1: you are forced to observe the horror of your body
Speaker 1: being driven to an involuntary death. Uh. They include the
Speaker 1: quote the link to the paper. Love the show, It's
Speaker 1: genuinely the best podcast out there. Don't ever stop Brett.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks Brett. Yeah, that this is a question for
Speaker 1: David Cronenberg. I mean they're both. They're both horrible fates
Speaker 1: to behold, right, the losing control of your body or
Speaker 1: losing control of your mind. I mean really, and I
Speaker 1: think we all think about this probably all the time
Speaker 1: as we get older. Right, Um, you know which what
Speaker 1: what is more dear to me? Uh? You know, and
Speaker 1: preferably you'd want to hold onto both and just the
Speaker 1: parasites leave you completely alone. But uh you know, uh
Speaker 1: not if the parasites have anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: As for the particular paper here in this revelation, I
Speaker 1: do remember covering it in some form, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: loss to remember how if it came up in a
Speaker 1: particular episode, or if I did a blog post about
Speaker 1: it back when blog posts were a thing. I do
Speaker 1: remember reading it because it's certainly, you know, turns the
Speaker 1: tables on our on our on what seemed to be
Speaker 1: our understanding of this scenario in the past. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know we have covered OPEO court a SPS.
Speaker 1: So if if it was not this paper we were
Speaker 1: looking at, I wonder what else it would have been.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not sure, but anyway to give the
Speaker 1: full reference in case you want to look the paper
Speaker 1: up for yourself. It's published in P and A s
Speaker 1: INEN by Frederickson at All and it's called three Dimensional
Speaker 1: Visualization of a Deep learning Model Reveal complex fungal parasite
Speaker 1: networks in behaviorally manipulated ants. Alright, This next message is
Speaker 1: from Matt. It says, Hey, Robert and Joe. I thought
Speaker 1: I would drop you a line on the topic of
Speaker 1: thirst because I seem to have a weak thirst impulse.
Speaker 1: What I mean by this is I often don't have,
Speaker 1: or at least rarely notice myself being thirsty until I'm
Speaker 1: quite far along the way towards dehydration. It's often to
Speaker 1: the point that if I forget to drink, I will
Speaker 1: develop migraines from dehydration. In response to this, I find
Speaker 1: I often need to schedule out when I drink, such
Speaker 1: as drinking and glass during every even hour throughout the day,
Speaker 1: or I will drink between each appropriately timed task, or
Speaker 1: carry a water bottle with me and just constantly sit
Speaker 1: at it when my activities at work are well suited
Speaker 1: for that one thing that I think is interesting about
Speaker 1: my situation. Though I don't though I don't have a
Speaker 1: strong thirst impulse, I do experience the satiation after drinking,
Speaker 1: even if I didn't feel thirsty to begin with. It's
Speaker 1: when I forced myself to drink. My brain goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention we were thirsty. Thanks for that.
Speaker 1: And this is interesting, Matt, because it seems to totally
Speaker 1: go along with some of the findings of that thirst
Speaker 1: research we were looking at, which was one of these
Speaker 1: findings was that thirst is not sated by the reverse
Speaker 1: of the process that created it. So you know, the
Speaker 1: thirst is created by this osmolality sensing sensing mechanism in
Speaker 1: the brain that detects dehydration and it tries to get
Speaker 1: you to drink. But then when you drink, that good
Speaker 1: feeling you get from swallowing the water is a different process.
Speaker 1: It's not just reversing the process that made you thirsty,
Speaker 1: because it actually takes like ten to fifteen minutes or
Speaker 1: so or maybe even more for your body to actually
Speaker 1: become hydrated from that water you drank. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: as simple as like a thirst meter in a video game,
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, well, my character is thirsty, you
Speaker 1: better drink a bunch of water. Uh, And then you
Speaker 1: just remember to keep looking at it to tell uh
Speaker 1: what you need more or if you're good right. And
Speaker 1: this is important for a number of reasons that we
Speaker 1: got into in detail in the episode. So if you
Speaker 1: haven't listened to our third series yet, you go back
Speaker 1: and check that out and then you'll know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Oh. But then back to Matt's email. Matt
Speaker 1: suggests a topic after this, which is that he thinks
Speaker 1: maybe we should look into the idea of using indicator
Speaker 1: plants and insects as in a garden to understand the
Speaker 1: condition of the soil and environment that exists there. And
Speaker 1: he he says, I'm not sure the best way of
Speaker 1: describing this, but I will try to give you examples.
Speaker 1: One would be when you see a large number of
Speaker 1: dandelions growing in the garden, I mean a lot, not
Speaker 1: just a few here and there, you can infer one
Speaker 1: or more conditions is true about the soil, such as
Speaker 1: the calcium levels are low and or the soil is
Speaker 1: very hard slash compacted. I have no knowledge of this myself,
Speaker 1: but Matt, I will trust you're on the right track there. Anyway,
Speaker 1: He attaches some videos and links to a book about
Speaker 1: this idea of these indicator plan and an insect species
Speaker 1: that that are supposedly signals of soil health and so Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do think this is an interesting topic. Soil doesn't
Speaker 1: get enough of a look, does it, rob We we
Speaker 1: could we could definitely talk about soil. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know we've we've touched on soil a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it's uh, you know, a soil is alive. Soil
Speaker 1: is is a rich and complex thing. I think One
Speaker 1: of the things we've touched on before is like vampires
Speaker 1: in legend the especially especially saying the novel Dracula, where
Speaker 1: they have to bring their grave soil with them in
Speaker 1: order to continue to thrive like they ultimately in that
Speaker 1: in these cases anyway, vampires know what's up. They know
Speaker 1: that the soil is essential and if life is to thrive,
Speaker 1: the soil has to be has to be maintained, cared for,
Speaker 1: and uh and provided all right, Well, I thin guess
Speaker 1: we've chatted enough here. We're gonna go ahead and close
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