WEBVTT - Part Two: Dr. Oz: Why 'America's Doctor' Is A Bastard 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:05.200 Hm. This is Behind the Bastards, the podcast where we 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:08.719 neg our audience in order to make them more closely 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:13.040 drawn to us. It's a tactic I learned, um from 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:17.760 pickup artists, from pickup artists. Um. Really, this whole show 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.280 is based on the lessons I learned as a pickup artist. Um. 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.960 You can't see it, but I'm wearing an enormous hat 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.720 with ostrich plumes coming on, made out of purple felt. 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:31.680 It's an incredible hat. The most fuckable hat, the most 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.040 fuckable hat. Yes, that was actually the first name I 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:39.000 pitched for this podcast, but Sophie said that that means 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.199 nothing and no one will listen to it. We will 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.760 lies on my name and saying that I turned down 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.239 his ideas. That's just not the case, so they I 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:49.720 think we can all agree that one of the best 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.120 things to do is to lie about things your colleagues 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:56.920 didn't do, because it's funny. I agree with it. Thank you. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:03.120 Onto the show. We're talking about Dr Odds um And 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.080 as we left the last episode off, he had just 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:11.200 you know, gotten Oprah right, Uh, started his TV career, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.160 got an opera hard Um, so he started his TV career, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.320 and he also starts right around the same time he 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.200 gets on TV for the first time. He starts a 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.800 daily morning radio show on Oprah Winfrey's Serious x M channel. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.160 Never a good idea, Serious x M, No terrible idea. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.600 What is it about giving people three hours of an 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.680 interrupted airtime? You know, there's just something about it. I 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.000 I you know, this is an opinion that's pretty controversial 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.119 within I heart radio. I think radio should be illegal, um. 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.560 And I think it should be a felony, punished by 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.720 prison time for for being on the radio or having 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:50.760 a radio. Thinking about the radio, I think the only 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.400 form of entertainment that should be legal is specifically my podcast. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:59.840 Yeah podcast and yes, yeah, and and there should legally 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.240 only be one Sopranos podcast allowed, which, as it turns out, 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.160 is the case. So I think if we, if we 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.760 could get Chuck Schumer's ear, we can make this happen. Um. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.160 We will tack this onto the pot bill, no one 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:17.000 will notice. So Dr Oz has the Doctor Oz Show. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.440 He's got a radio show on winfries S x M 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.600 channel where he covers very scientific topics like how God 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.000 changes your brain and the happiest people in the world. 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.280 Now I found a new York Times article that was 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.880 written just a few months into his tenure with his 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.920 TV show, kind of at the start of his his 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:39.400 burst into stardom. Um and the interviewer who talked to 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.760 Oz for this article seems as impressed as everyone always 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.639 is by the manic, somewhat in human pace at which 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.520 memot Oz works. By this point, he'd also written six 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.520 books with titles like You the Smart Patient, You on 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.680 a Diet, and You Having a Baby. It's like the 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:01.799 series The Cole and whatever. And he co writes these 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.280 books with another doctor. I can't tell you how much 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:05.880 of the writing was a lot of times. I'm not 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.959 saying this is the case with Dr Oz because he's 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.560 a wild workaholic, but a lot of times, when you 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.360 have a guy that's his kind of famous and they 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.959 write a bunch of books, they write like ten percent 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.200 of the book and they have someone else, a co 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.160 author or a ghost writer, do the rest. I don't 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.959 know if that's the case here. There's one dam who's 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.120 writing most of Good Will Hunting, and then there's a 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.440 Ben Affleck who gets top book, and I I do 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:33.240 believe Matt Damon writes most of his books. Yeah, so 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.560 nine million copies of his various titles are in print 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.480 by this point, like the first year of his show, 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.279 So he is he is a very wealthy and successful 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.920 man pretty much out the gate like money. Getting the 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.960 start on Oprah kind of guarantees it. Basically, if Oprah 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.680 likes you, um enough to put you on her show 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:55.200 more than once, you're going to get rich. Damn. Yeah, 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.000 I just I just should have spent my my youth 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.760 trying to get on Oprah. We all should have. Well, 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.520 so um Dr Oz gets a semi regular column for 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:09.800 Time magazine because again they see this guy get famous 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.520 and like, we gotta get some of that Oprah money too. 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.520 We get this guy on Time, people will start reading 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:18.719 Time again and yeah, it's interesting. They give him a column, um, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.680 And in two thousand eight they included him on their 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:25.000 list of the world's most one hundred most influential people. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:26.920 So before they hire him to a column, they call 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.680 him one of the world's most influential people. And as 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.360 soon as he gets listed as one of the hundred 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.240 most influential people on the planet, Dr Oz calls his 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:39.080 dad right like finally, Yeah, this has gotta be the thing. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.839 How could he not be impressed by this. Am I 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:45.480 enough for you, Papa. So when he tells his dad, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:51.120 his dad's first question is what numbers? How are you? 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.080 And this is not a ranked thing, like it's not 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.320 the top hundred, like going to one. It's just like 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:03.120 these hundred people are all very Yeah, it's not a 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:09.159 listical um. But doctor Oz in this interview, seemed to 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.920 acknowledge that the fact that his dad reacted that way 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.640 said a lot about both you know his dad and 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.080 about their relationship. He told an interviewer, quote, he wants 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.400 to know what number? Are you kidding me? There are 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:26.600 six billion people on the planet. It's a rounding error. God, 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.120 But but like, but like what number? Though? How high 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.600 are you? Motherfucker? Are you? You're basically me? Yeah. So 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.120 that interviewer, along with The New York Times, wrote quote, 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.320 it's also the kind of thing that goads the sun 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.520 to climb mountain after mountain, seldom pausing to enjoy the view. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.840 The Good Doctor did admit to engaging in a number 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.479 of time saving measures over the years. He did numerous 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.480 columns which were often just recycled from other columns or 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:57.200 chunks of his books. He provide the same list of 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:01.000 skin moisturizing or metabolism boosting tips and different magazines or 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:05.400 online articles. Even so, his workload was enormous. The Doctorage 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.760 Show was instantly one of the most popular shows on 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.279 the planet, and memit was contracted to record a hundred 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.680 and seventy five hour long episodes per year, which is 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.680 a fucking brutal work schedule on its own, and the 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.719 man continued to practice as a surgeon, albeit at a 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.960 reduced rate. The New York Times interviewer who visited him 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.280 in two thousand ten seemed to find his behavior and 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:31.440 kind of his compulsive workaholism somewhat unsettling. I never saw 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.560 him without a portable larder of baggies, plastic containers and 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.560 thermosis of food and drink, and all of it, every crumb, 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.000 every drop was healthful low fat Greek yogurt mixed with 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.440 brightly colored berries, spinach slaw, raw almonds, raw walnuts soaked 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:48.640 in water to amplify their nutritional benefit, a dark green 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.400 concoction of juices from vegetables and cuting, including cucumber and parsley. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.800 Roughly every forty five to sixty minutes, as if on cue, 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.680 he would ingest something from his movable buffet, but only 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.520 a little bit his Porsche, and assiduously regulated like an intravening, 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.479 like an intravenous drip of nutrition. It was the most efficient, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.640 joyless eating I have ever seen. That is so weird. 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:17.320 I'm sorry that it's so uncomfortable to just He's cool, dude, 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.680 Like that's you know, he's living life in the in 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.480 the most drab way possible, just trying to just trying 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.840 to make TV shows and do heart surgeries. You know, 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.840 who has time to enjoy anything when you're dead? And 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:34.000 efficient evening eating He's like, I don't eat or drink 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.640 anything that I would enjoy. Yeah, you're welcome. That's just 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.120 so unsettling. I mean, you know what, I have known 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.080 a couple of people in my life's all very skinny, 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.320 who have told me like I just don't really like eating, Like, yeah, 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.040 there's some foods that I prefer to others, but I 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.000 just don't really enjoy it one way or the other. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.480 Like I've know, like some of those people wound up 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.760 on the soilent thing, and I guess, like, I mean, yeah, fine, 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:56.960 it's like it's whatever. You know, it's your life. You 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.080 want food, eat monkey food. But don't be surprised when 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.480 I judge, you know, yeah, like it's uh, that's weird. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.720 At the start, the Doctor Oz Show was broadly inoffensive 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.560 from a medical perspective. He gave a lot of fairly good, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.040 common sense health advice health advice, and provided a lot 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.640 of people with a friendly medical face willing to explain 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.920 things their doctors might not have the time or the 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.720 bedside manner to properly lay out. But Oz's fascination with 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.680 alternative medicine was present from the beginning, and as time 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:27.920 went on, he veered more and more in that direction, 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.200 following both the topics that consistently drew the most viewers 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.760 and the topics that were easiest to put together, because 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:35.920 a hundred and seventy five hours of content a year 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.240 is a lot. I mean really though, Like at some 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.280 point you run out of ship to talk about and 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.680 you have to just be like, uh, pendulums over the 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.960 heart do they work? Yeah? Yeah? Punching people in the dick? 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:53.760 Could it? What? I mean? You know, we we have 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:55.640 to do. I don't know how much content we have 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:57.920 to do per year, fifty two weeks, two hours a week. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.160 Uh yeah, we we do like a hundred and ten maybe, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.840 like with some of the episodes that go over a 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.600 hundred and twenty hours of content here for this show, 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.640 and that's a lot um a hundred seventy five hours 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.640 of video content. Is he like, you can't. There's there's 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.360 not that much good and also entertaining medical advice that 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.000 you can give in a year, let alone every single year. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.400 I mean, just like there's only so many organs to 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.160 talk about, you know, after a while, you just got 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:27.000 to invent ship. Yeah, And it's this thing. It's this 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:31.120 kind of this inevitable churn of capitalism leading us all 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.960 into this this specific kind of nonsense because you can't 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:40.720 not have content legally you're contracted to. But also you 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:43.160 have this whole team of people whose ability to pay 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.400 their rent and whose ability to to to afford their 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.080 homes to keep their kids in school is dependent upon 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.160 you doing this show outside of just the fact that 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.800 he's rich, Like like, he's fine, but he like, it's 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:55.920 this thing. You have to keep putting out the thing, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.000 and you will never have enough meaningful ship to put 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.400 out to do it. So you start, in his case, 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.360 doing nonsense about mediums and ship and in our case 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:12.640 doing episodes about Dr Oz. When you run out of bastards, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.920 eventually you just gotta find one on tea. We're not 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.439 out of bastards. But like last week, I spent thirty 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.920 hours reading about the protocols of the Elders Zion. I 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:25.040 needed an off with you know God, that is that 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:30.480 is one of my favorite, absolutely real documents to read. Yeah, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.800 that's why we brought you on. Actually, yeah, I'm actually 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.160 one of the Elders of Zion and I got some 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:43.800 protocols for you. Oh good times. So for an example 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.640 of the kind of nonsense creep, I guess you'd call 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.880 it that. Like advanced upon his show. In March of 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.120 two thousand twelve, Doctor Oz did a show titled Medium 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.800 Versus Medicine. Oz's guest was a psychic who claimed she 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.760 could communicate with the dead. This was one of several, 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.680 and by this point probably dozens of episodes dedicated to 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.960 people who claimed to talk to the dead. Energy healing was, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.440 you know, on the fringe, certainly, but at least it 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:12.840 was something that when he started doing it, there were 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.760 scientific studies saying there might be something to it. Those 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.319 studies have since been to to a large extent discredited. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.520 But when he started doing that, there was some evidence 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:23.200 it was a thing to try. You know, he wasn't 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.920 completely out of left field. People were at least testing 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.200 at episodes on mediums. Talking to the dead is well 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:34.000 outside of plausible deniability territory, right, Like, you're just doing 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:38.520 nonsense at this point. You know, it depends how they're talking. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.520 If you go up to a dead body and start 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.480 talking to it, you are technically talking to the dead. Now, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.400 that would be a fun show. Dr Oz breaks into 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:50.360 morgues and talks to corpses. Yeah, how did you die? 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.559 Just just just having his bodyguards mace police officers rolling 0:11:55.559 --> 0:12:00.240 into a crime scene, be like, who did this? Had 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:08.679 this good? Are you okay? I am a doctor? Do 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:14.240 you want some almonds? They're soaked in water for more nutrition? 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.640 So yeah, he had. Yeah. Dr Oz had among his 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:29.559 psychic guests famous grifter king John Edwards on his show 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:35.600 Not the Politicians, The Talks to Dead TV show guy. Yeah, 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:39.480 and he praised the reading that he received from John Edwards, saying, quote, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.400 let me tell you what changed my life. I've learned 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.800 in my career that there are times when science just 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.240 hasn't caught up with things, and I think this maybe 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:51.800 one of them, which is almost exactly what he said 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.440 about John of God, the guy who raped hundreds of people. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.160 That's how, you know, like to stay far away from 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.000 anything when he's just like, man, this is uh, this 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.720 is a brand new, groundbreaking territory, and you can go 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.360 all wrong and it's it's one of those things. Part 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.400 of how he's like the intelligent way to frame this 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.000 is you start with the truth thing, which is there 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.079 are things science can't explain. One of those things is 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.840 the nature of consciousness and what happens to it after 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.360 you know, vital sciences. We don't know. That's not an 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.640 objective answer to that. But it going this way is 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.120 kind of like being like, yeah, you know, we can't 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.719 explain like the slit box experiment. Like there's a bunch 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.400 of ship in physics. I don't know, I'm not a 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.400 science guy, but like you know, particle and wave ship, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.640 you can't explain that. You can't explain magnets, Yeah, how 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.079 do they work? How do they work? It's this It's 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.439 this jump from yes, there are things we can't explain 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.280 to so let's listen to this man talk to the dead. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.599 Millions of people gather around, gather around. He's going to 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:57.760 channel you're dead on Yes, Um, maybe not not a 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:02.120 reasonable way to take a reasonable starting point. Yeah, especially 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.880 when you're a doctor on TV. Yeah, and I want 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.360 to quote from a write up I found in the 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:12.360 Journal of the Missouri State Medical Association. Quote. During another show, 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.240 Oz interviewed Dr Mossara Fali, a miracle here healer to 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.840 Sylvester Stallone, Prince Charles of England, and others, regarding his 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.480 use of irrodology. According to the Whitely debumpd bizarre belief, 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.640 each part of the iris corresponds to a specific area 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.920 of the body, and a person's state of health could 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.560 be diagnosed by examining particular regions of the iris. If 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.960 you're expressing his amazement at Dr Ali's diagnostic abilities, oh stated, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.840 I want to applaud Dr Mossara f Ali because these 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.440 are ancient traditions and they have been around for centuries. 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.440 So who am I to has missed the other than 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:50.960 a very well educated man, doctor doctor met he had 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.640 at Yeah, It's like, you know, there's a lot of 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.160 cultures who say that you should remove the clitterist surgically 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.600 because it's it's it's it's healthier, and it stops dangerous masturbation. 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.800 It's ancient. Who are we gonna say this is a 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.320 bad idea? Who are any of us to say anything's wrong? 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.800 Oh my god, I love it too, just like I 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.440 was amazed by his ability to look into my eyes 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.800 and diagnose that my dad will never love me. How 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.440 did he know? How did you know? It does bring 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.840 me enjoy that Prince Charles got fucked with. I wonder 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.000 what his eyes said. It's funny it said the same thing. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.920 It said, your dad will never love you. That's all 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.800 he does. He goes to famous people and he goes 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.680 your dad will never love you. Your dad will never 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:40.040 love you. There's this. One of the big aspects of 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.200 this guy's success and of the success of the things 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.520 he pushes, is Orientalism, right, um, Like this idea of 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:51.160 like the forbidden and strange and wondrous and magical East 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.560 and all of the we don't understand all of these, like, oh, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.880 India is so mysterious, YadA YadA, um. What if you 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.040 were to say, like, well, for centuries, tobacco companies have 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.920 said that tobacco can cure like different ailments. Who are 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:10.960 we to dismiss these ancient traditions? The queues owe could 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:15.400 be real exactly, Like it stops people from stuttering, do 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:21.920 more cocaine. I mean, yeah, just the idea. And I've 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.640 always found this in general to be the biggest load 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:28.480 of Horseshit is when people have have said, you know, 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.160 this is like an ancient healing technique, and it's like, 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.200 you mean like bleeding people with leeches, you know, you mean, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.440 like cutting off someone's leg because he got a fucking 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.840 a small infection on his ancient It's this thing with 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.800 Dr Oz, Like it's one thing if you're just like 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:49.040 traveling another part of the world, you see some sort 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.880 of medical or treatment you've never seen before, and you're like, well, 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.920 who am I? Who am I to say anything about? Right? Like, 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.160 I don't know. Dr Oz is a doctor on TV 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.160 talking to millions. You're literally the person who should be 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.680 saying something about the legitimacy of this, right Yeah, Yeah, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.000 you're you're the guy. You're the person, you are, in fact, 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:12.600 the person who should say something about you're the most 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.520 famous doctor in America. Yeah, And that's what that that 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.760 right up in the Journal of the Missouri State Medical 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:22.200 Association notes, quote who doctor Oz is a trained clinician 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.159 and scientist, someone who can read a scientific article with 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.600 a critical eye. He is someone who can filter out 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.040 the noise of the placebo effect or discern the simple 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.720 carnival tricks of Charlatan. The problem is that most people 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.480 in his audience cannot. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's he 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:41.480 has a literal responsibility to tell people that these guys 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:44.840 are full of ship. But he also has a responsibility 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:49.680 to his show sponsors and to to the network for ratings. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.240 You know, you know who else has a responsibility to 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:56.960 the show's politicis. I think that's got to be the 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.360 first time. That's got to be the first time it's 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:11.600 ever been relevant. So fucking good. Anyway, here's products uh, 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.680 we're back talking about Dr Oz having just a great time. Um. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.640 So obviously the fact that Doctor Oz, I mean probably 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.000 the fact that most of his audience couldn't discern whether 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.359 or not any of these nonsense treatments were real, um, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.879 is a big part of why the Doctors Show became 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.879 an overnight success. Before very long, it was being watched 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:35.880 by four million viewers every single day over the next 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.119 half decade or so, he won two Emmys. His guest 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.440 list included First Lady Michelle Obama, who loved Dr Oz 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.919 for his focus on healthy diets for children and in 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:48.080 general his crusade to get Americans to lose weight. Doctor 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.520 Oz claimed through Medicine the through Math that I cannot 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.440 verify that his show inspired Americans to lose three million 0:18:55.560 --> 0:19:00.800 cumulative pounds per year. I don't know. Maybe they based 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:04.360 that on what, Like did people call in to say 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.160 how many pounds they've lost to the show. I mean, 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:09.520 I'm sure he found some way to like make the 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.080 claim or whatever. But it's it's very it's I don't know. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.040 Maybe it is one of the things that he does 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.200 that is we'll talk about. There's problems with some of 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:21.160 the diet tips he gives people, actually significant ones. Um, 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:25.120 but telling like inspiring people to lose weight is not 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.879 usually bad for their health, can't be. Yeah, sometimes people 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.280 take it too far and health problems. You know, it's 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:37.600 a mixed bag. I guess we'd say, but the other 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.879 stuff isn'to mixed bag. So I guess we'll call that 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:45.320 his his great success. Um. So, yeah, it is good. 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.960 I will say it isn't equivalently good that doctors continually 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:50.439 pressed his audience of millions of people to eat more 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.520 fruits and vegetables, fruits and vegetables, to get better sleep, 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.399 to exercise regularly, and to get their flu vaccinations. That's 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:01.200 all rat right, But should I could have that? Give me? Yeah, 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:02.639 you don't. You don't have to have You don't have 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.560 to be a doctor to say that, Yeah, eat piggies. 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:09.440 But he's charismatic. People like him. It's good that he 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.480 does that at least. Yeah, I don't trust me, so 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.920 they won't give me the show, but they should because Yeah, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:19.680 the unfortunate part is that this guy gained because he's 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.200 he's handsome. A lot of a lot of a lot 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.160 of ladies out there think Dr oz is hot Um. 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:30.800 He's he's very charismatic. Um, he's very charming, and he 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:34.840 gains this enormous influence with Middle America, and he uses 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.080 that influence to do some really fucking questionable ship. And 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:39.600 I'm going to quote now from a write up in 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.880 the A. M. A's Journal of Ethics. He has told 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.520 mothers that there were dangerous levels of arsenic in their 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.440 child's apple juice. There weren't and suggested that green coffee 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:53.640 is a miracle cure for obesity. Federal regulators discovered altered 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.560 data in hyped coffee being evidence. The Food and Drug 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.560 Administration tested for arsenic and apple juice and found the 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.600 vast majority of apple juice tested contained to contain low 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.600 levels of arsenic, and given these levels, was confident in 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.560 the overall safety of apple juice consumed in this country. 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.440 Dr Oz also featured two guests on his show who 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.320 claimed that genetically modified foods were cancer causing, despite repeated 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:19.320 safety reports that found no adverse effects. Man, I mean, 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:23.560 he's like, he's very he's getting there, Like I'm I'm 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:29.960 watching him slowly go from mement to mangela. You know, well, 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:37.879 come on, let him. I guess that you want to 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:40.840 be fair, Robert, but let's go for it, all right, 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.880 we're doing but no, we're watching it like turn into 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:48.040 a snake oil salesman, and it's it's very exciting. Yeah. 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:52.840 So Dr oz Is enthusiasm for alternative medicine has had 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.600 the effect of creating instant fads over any health product. 0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:59.080 He even vaguely suggests on his show when he mentions 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.240 the purported health the fits of white mulberry, red palm oil, 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.800 or brown seaweed, all of which he's claimed can do 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.200 things like cut weight, reduce aging, or beat the flu. 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.720 Those products fly off the shelf. Oz often doesn't endure 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.640 specific brands, but he doesn't need to. Online retailers watch 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.159 closely and immediately slap, as seen on Doctor Oz on 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:22.879 the Scientific Products. Yes, I've seen this. Yeah, this is 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.000 where we get to the big harm. He did one 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:29.080 episode that focused on so called relaxation drinks and included 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.840 a close upshot of five cans of beverages he said 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:37.880 might help calm you down. Just a Miller High Life. Yeah, 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.760 he just puts a can of Cult on the table. 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:47.720 Billy Dee Williams walks out, it's still reserved. Trust me, 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:56.760 you'll be calm and shit, you might yell let your mom. Yeah, 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:01.080 you will very calmly put your hand through a axcab window. 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:08.119 As soon as the episode aired, a quote Liquid sleep 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:11.760 aid called eye Chill bragged on their website Dr oz 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:13.800 is talking about a new way to wind down with 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:17.040 relaxation drinks. They are the newest trend in helping you 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.440