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Speaker 1: We're live in Chicago. It's the Herd. Final Herd Hierarchy

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Speaker 1: for a while. Forty two year old Aaron Rodger longest

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Speaker 1: drive in the second half, twenty three yards. Texans d

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Speaker 1: is for real. Well, so many delicious topics, but let's

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Speaker 1: not waste any time before we get to Nick Right.

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Speaker 1: Robert May's on our show in an hour. Here we

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Speaker 1: go with our Herd Hierarchy.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy, Now go the top ten NFL teams according

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Speaker 2: to College number eight.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I'm gonna put Chicago there. Season low in penalties

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Speaker 1: and penalty yards against Green Bay. I didn't love Ben

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Speaker 1: desperate in the first half, try to get a little cute,

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Speaker 1: but they played clean. They're seven to two at home

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Speaker 1: this year. Nine to two against teams outside of their division.

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Speaker 1: They're a great fourth quarter team, first win without a takeaway,

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Speaker 1: so there's a lot to take from it. They played

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Speaker 1: a clean game. Caleb was remarkable, but losing their starting

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Speaker 1: left tackle and linebacker TJ. Edwards is going to hurt

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Speaker 1: against the Rams. They are not nearly as athletic defensively,

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Speaker 1: Edwards and their left tackle against Jared Verse, I worry

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Speaker 1: about the Bears. I have them at eight, number seven

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Speaker 1: Francisco again. Now you can prepare for the Niners without

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Speaker 1: George Kittle. You're not losing him in game. Brock Purty

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Speaker 1: as a pick in four straight games, I don't really care.

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Speaker 1: What I care is if you look at brock Perty

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Speaker 1: he's had four game winning drives in six playoff games.

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Speaker 1: That's what matters to me. They've won eleven straight playoff

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Speaker 1: games in the wild card or divisional round and that's

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of that's Kyle Shanahan. But I

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Speaker 1: think going into a game without Kittle, very rested Seattle team,

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Speaker 1: that is a lot to ask. I have them at seven,

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Speaker 1: number six a Denver. Listen, they're very very good at

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Speaker 1: home and eleven and two and one score games. But

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Speaker 1: there's there's no more Raiders, you know, there's no more

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Speaker 1: lightweight offenses like the Chargers. And they do lead the

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Speaker 1: NFL in sacks and allow the fewest sacks. So I

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Speaker 1: like the roster construct. But they've been held a twenty

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Speaker 1: And I said this, I'm not so sure taking the

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Speaker 1: I think Buffalo's probably gonna beat him, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: think that a couple of weeks ago. But it was

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Speaker 1: the first road win under McDermott. They've won six of

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Speaker 1: seven games. And Josh Allen listen to this. In his

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Speaker 1: last seven playoff games, Josh Allen nineteen total touchdowns, one pick.

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Speaker 1: He has a way of getting rid of the mistakes.

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Speaker 1: They've got their tush push figured out, which they didn't

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Speaker 1: I think they're offensive personnels better than I give it

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Speaker 1: at five number four, but neutral field. I take the Texans.

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Speaker 1: They've won ten straight. Their defense last night and I

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Speaker 1: outscored the Steelers offense. I mean Pittsburgh was playing well

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Speaker 1: there's nothing to pick on with New England. I have

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Speaker 1: You have to throw the ball to beat Seattle, and

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Speaker 1: I mean when I look at the Bears, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: they could not afford to lose a left tackle or

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Speaker 1: they're really one linebacker that's active and they lost both.

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Speaker 1: They could have lost a wide receiver, they could have lot.

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Speaker 1: It's not that they're a bad team. They didn't play clean.

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Speaker 1: But man, that Rams team right now is really healthy.

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Speaker 1: I think it anything take your shot at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I agree, given the injuries, under stand where

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Speaker 3: you have the Bears. I also think what they have

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Speaker 3: this tournament that if the fourth quarter starts on Sunday

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Speaker 3: fine about it. The stat of the year for the

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Speaker 4: And fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: The Bears down ten plus five minutes remaining are three

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Speaker 3: and three. What for everyone else is a five percent

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Speaker 3: shot is for the Bears. It's not even a five

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Speaker 3: fifty percent shot. And Caleb has shown how specially is

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Speaker 3: late in these spots. But that's a long way of

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Speaker 3: saying I agree with you the left tackle injury. The

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Speaker 3: defense was already shaky. That was more to me. I

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Speaker 3: understand the Bears defense stepped up in the second half

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Speaker 3: at all was a culmination of a season worth of

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Speaker 3: bad offense for the Eagles for finally coming to I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry for the season worth, the bad for the Packers,

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Speaker 3: CJ was brutal yesterday, and I don't trust the offense.

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Speaker 3: That the Steelers did nothing for forty five minutes and

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Speaker 3: it's seven to six entering the fourth quarter. The Steelers

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Speaker 3: But other than that, I like where you're out on

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Speaker 3: year was very, very impressive.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it could have been the last game for Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: How will you remember holistically Aaron Rodgers career?

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Speaker 4: What a great question. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I think he is one of the most one of

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Speaker 3: the five most talented quarterbacks ever. I also think that

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Speaker 3: you can find specifically three huge spots in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: where the defense left him drawing dead. Where they allow

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Speaker 3: forty four points to Matt Ryan's Falcons in a conference

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Speaker 3: championship game, where they allow forty five points to Kaepernick

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Speaker 3: when they score thirty plus win the Niners in a

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Speaker 3: conference championship game score I think thirty seven, maybe more,

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Speaker 3: but I know they only threw the ball eight times.

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Speaker 3: There are instances where Aaron defenders could rightfully say that.

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Speaker 4: That's not on himah.

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Speaker 3: But there are also instances where in those biggest spots,

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Speaker 3: be it the famous game against Seattle with the onside kicks.

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Speaker 3: Everyone remembers the on side kick and the Russell Wilson throw.

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Speaker 3: What they don't remember is Aaron was brutal throughout the

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Speaker 3: almost entirety of that game, and it was really remarkable.

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Speaker 3: The Packers were leading near the final moments for the comeback,

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Speaker 3: or the game against Brady where he had the brutal

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Speaker 4: Well maybe they don't remember.

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Speaker 3: Is they were in that spot because that Packers team

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Speaker 4: But the things you.

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Speaker 3: drop in dk Metcalf. We have seen those things throughout

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Speaker 3: his career leading up to it, so it's a complicated legacy.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the four greatest regular season quarterbacks ever.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the five most talented quarterbacks ever, he

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Speaker 3: has four MVPs, and so this is a compliment and

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Speaker 3: his career as underachieving, given how great he was. It

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Speaker 3: is it's really remarkable that in his second third year

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Speaker 3: fifteen to one and he's damn near the unanimous MVP,

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Speaker 3: and he never got to another super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 3: It's I have a hard time believing it. But I

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Speaker 3: think some of the things that made you forever skeptical

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three former packers have told me to my face,

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Speaker 1: You're never quite sure which Aaron shows up. But I

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Speaker 1: also can say simultaneously, he's smart, he's a little trickly,

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Speaker 1: he can be a little condescending, but he can also

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Speaker 1: be amazing. And there's as many teammates that love him

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Speaker 1: of the complexity of life. So, you know, the way

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Speaker 1: I look at Josh Allen, and I think Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: Oh So, Justin Herbert's got the thirty second ranked offensive line.

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Speaker 3: That is the most turnovers forced by a quarterbacks defense

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Speaker 4: And everyone who knew the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Do you think Justin might be able to come through?

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Speaker 3: Listen, he won the Super Bowl a year ago. I

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Speaker 4: See shot man.

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Speaker 4: One day, something had to be done.

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Speaker 3: One day he will.

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Speaker 3: comp is a slight to Herbert. Maybe I just think

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Speaker 3: more highly of Andy Dalton than everybody else. Andy Dalton

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Speaker 3: beat out your guy Sam Darnold, my guy Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 3: in Carolina. Maybe Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 4: Should put some respect on his name.

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Speaker 3: And maybe if you were six sick for the Rocket

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Speaker 3: armed people would have even though owned four in the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: owned three in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you Colin, Good to see you, Nick right,

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Speaker 1: Greg Rowman, got yeah, listen, it's Herbert. You know, somebody's

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Speaker 1: gotta pay for that.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: We got good study, you know. I hope we don't

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Speaker 1: forget about Miami and Indiana National Championship. Let's let's not

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Speaker 1: May's last hour, Nick Wright hurt hierarchy so far. Some

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the Hurricanes and Indiana. I think that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a good one. Slide edge Indiana, but I think

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Speaker 1: the Hurricanes up front can push back and make it

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Colin, I was a little giddy last night on

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Speaker 7: that Aaron Rodgers ending. You see everybody going up to

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Speaker 7: him to congratulate him after the game. Hey man, great career,

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Speaker 7: Colin didn't with a pick six. His last throw in

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Speaker 7: the NFL was a pick six. I mean, we all

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Speaker 7: think he's gonna retire the Texans retreating it that way.

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Speaker 7: The camera literally followed him around everywhere. They didn't get

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Speaker 7: the coach's handshake, nothing. Cam Hayward says he still wants

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Speaker 7: Rogers around Okay, yeah, he's the only one. I think

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Speaker 7: there's a hard reboot in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 8: But do you think.

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Speaker 7: Rogers, you know, does another darkness retreat and decides I'm

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Speaker 7: coming back, man, What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Well, I just don't think. I never thought it was

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Speaker 1: a great fit. I thought I kept saying all year,

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is the comeback player of the year.

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Speaker 1: I thought the fit was Minnesota. I'll tell you right now.

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Speaker 1: My take is I would go and look at Minnesota

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Speaker 1: because I think they're gonna bring somebody else in to

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Speaker 1: compete with JJ McCarthy. He can't stay healthy, can't make starts.

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Speaker 1: They're they're not. You can't go into the year saying

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Speaker 1: we think JJ is gonna play seventeen games. You'd be

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Speaker 1: lucky if you'd sign up today that it could play ten.

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Speaker 7: I scoff at that because he would be exactly copying

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Speaker 7: Brett Favre, who went Packers, Jets and Vikings and his career.

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Speaker 8: I just find it comical.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, I don't know that that's possible, but hey, quite

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Speaker 7: quick on Rogers, Colin.

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Speaker 8: I had to look this up. Twenty twenty was his

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Speaker 8: last playoff win.

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty we're in twenty twenty six, five years is

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Speaker 7: on a playoff game.

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Speaker 8: The only reason they're in the playoffs with.

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Speaker 7: Because Tyler Lup misses a forty four yard field goal

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Speaker 7: fair and because Burrow missed half the season and Lamar

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Speaker 7: missed a bunch of games.

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Speaker 8: I would go, they're not even in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I kind of think Aaron's

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Speaker 1: gonna disappear and we're not gonna have an answer for

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Speaker 1: a long time. And I think, for the record, I

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Speaker 1: think Minnesota loves that. So I think Minnesota going into

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Speaker 1: the draft isn't sure what they're gonna do, so I

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Speaker 1: think I think after I think Minnesota watched the Vikings

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Speaker 1: in the draft, what do they do at quarterback? I

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Speaker 1: would say better than fifty shit. I'll make my guests here.

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Speaker 1: It's only three things gonna happen. Retire Viking, Okay, two

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Speaker 1: things hire or Vikings? Is my guest? Right?

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Speaker 7: Do you think if Rogers says, hey, Mike, you want

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Speaker 7: to run it back, that that is more likely for

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Speaker 7: Tomlin to want to stay versus go to a cushy

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Speaker 7: TV job.

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Speaker 8: Probably take one of the other openness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably he'd stay for aeron. Yeah, a lot of kumbaya.

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Speaker 1: They like each other.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, did you say ayahuasca or kumbaya? I miss this?

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Speaker 8: All right, Let's go to the next story, and that's

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Speaker 8: the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 7: Colin reports currently indicate Matt Lafleur is in contract negotiations

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Speaker 7: with the Packers. It sounds like nothing definitive. He's going

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Speaker 7: to be staying in Green Bay. That's good news for

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Speaker 7: Edge rusher Micah Parsons, who told the media he wants

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Speaker 7: his coach to stay.

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Speaker 9: I've had my fair shriff coaches and people are honest

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Speaker 9: league that I've been around, and Matt's one of the

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Speaker 9: best guys and people like as a person I've been

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Speaker 9: around since I've been in this league. I'll reached out

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Speaker 9: to him when I started seeing this and I said, man,

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Speaker 9: you know, when I agreed to come here, like you

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Speaker 9: were part of the reason why I came here, I

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Speaker 9: want you a part is and you know I love you,

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Speaker 9: and you know I think you're a great coach. And

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Speaker 9: you know he appreciated those words, and we had a

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Speaker 9: brief conversation.

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Speaker 8: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you shouldn't fire Matt Lafleur.

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Speaker 8: It was a bad game. You could admit it was

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Speaker 8: a terrible.

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Speaker 1: He had a very good first half. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 1: coaches half. He out coached Ben Johnson and the coaches half.

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Speaker 8: Well. Okay, so he had a better game plan than.

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Speaker 7: Ben Johnson, but he had that in all three games

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Speaker 7: against Ben Johnson this season.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's his strength.

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Speaker 8: Okay, But adjustments are part of coaching.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kyle Shanahan's not very good at adjustments because he's

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Speaker 1: never won a game where he trailed entering the fourth

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Speaker 1: by a touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I've seen that stat How much were

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Speaker 7: they trailing the Eagles by entering the fourth?

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Speaker 8: Was it sixteen to ten or something like that. I

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Speaker 8: don't know.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's I just I like the adjustments for

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Speaker 7: Dennis Allen and the Bears. They decided, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 7: dial up the blitz, We're not going to let Love

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Speaker 7: sit back and kill us, and I.

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Speaker 8: Saw zero adjustments from the floor.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 8: I was extremely disappointed that.

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Speaker 7: Being said, you know, we got some stats on him,

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Speaker 7: most wins by a head coach in their first seven seasons.

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Speaker 7: He's tied for second most in the history of football column. Now,

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Speaker 7: some would argue that's because he had Aaron Rodgers for

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Speaker 7: a few of those.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I mean, I mean, you don't win without a

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Speaker 8: good quarterback in this league.

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Speaker 1: We know that, right the guys won with Malik Willis playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I mean, just it's the idea that you'd fly

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Speaker 1: fire Matt Lafleur, that you're just too close to the forest,

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Speaker 1: can't see the trees. That's like packer cheesehead guy. I

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Speaker 1: don't It's just dumb. It shouldn't even be a topic.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 8: I'm with you. Final story, Let's go to college football.

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Speaker 7: You're right, we shouldn't forget about the national championship coming up,

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Speaker 7: and it will have been a long time between games.

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Speaker 7: But let's focus on Dante Moore in Oregon. He was

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Speaker 7: ticketed for my Jets and then he kind of not

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Speaker 7: a rough one we say against Indiana, fumbling interception on

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Speaker 7: the first play. But Urban Meyer was on a podcast

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Speaker 7: and said, if Dante Moore does come out, he hopes

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Speaker 7: he gets a chance to develop here we go.

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Speaker 5: I just hope if he goes somewhere he can go

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Speaker 5: sit and learn for a year. Yeah. I hate that

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Speaker 5: when they throw the I did it? You throw that

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Speaker 5: rookie quarterback in there, and it's just man, you just

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Speaker 5: wish you had some veteran guy in front of him.

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Speaker 5: Dan Rodgers learning from Brett Faire number four, Brent Fare.

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Speaker 5: So that was the perfect way, well member, for quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: to have great success.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I love Urban when he comes on the ship.

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Speaker 7: That's just not realistic right now with these teams at

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Speaker 7: the top. It worked for Patrick Mahomes right with Kansas

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Speaker 7: City and a playoff team with Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: You know, and I'm dead serious, if the Jets had

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Speaker 1: a co tighlight like if Dante, if the agents did

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Speaker 1: a deal and Dante Moore literally through his agent, contacted

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Speaker 1: the Jets, you can do that and the Jets hired

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, I'd come out I'm not coming out for

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Speaker 1: the Jets mess and Aaron Glenn, I'd come out of

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Speaker 1: the Jets hired Kevin Stefanski. I would. If I was

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Speaker 1: Dante More and really wanted to leave, I would call

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Speaker 1: my agent. I mean, I've done this a million times.

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Speaker 1: I call an agent and say, can you give me

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Speaker 1: a phone number of somebody I want to pay him

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Speaker 1: a compliment or I want to ask him a question.

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Speaker 1: Just go to your agent get a hold of the Jets,

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Speaker 1: find out if Aaron Glenn is absolutely coming back. If

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Speaker 1: he is, there's no way I'm going. I'm not because

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Speaker 1: you'll have to play. It'll be awful. I'm not doing it.

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Speaker 7: This idea of sittings sounds great if you're drafting it

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Speaker 7: like Lamar Jackson thirty two. You know Patrick Mahomes ten

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Speaker 7: in the teens. You just can't do that at the

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Speaker 7: top of the draft. The team is there because they

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Speaker 7: stink and they need a savior. The Jets need a savior.

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Speaker 1: And how about this, I don't know that Dante Moore

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Speaker 1: is that guy. I'll tell you right now. At least

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Speaker 1: you want to know an under the radar story developing. Please,

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Speaker 1: Brian Dabol to the Titans.

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Speaker 8: You were on this last week. We haven't heard dables

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Speaker 8: name anywhere.

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Speaker 7: I just saw a website, one of the prominent ones

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Speaker 7: projected the head coaches for every opening. Brian Dables not

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Speaker 7: listed as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting.

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Speaker 8: What's that about. Is there some back channel stuff happening.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere He's interviewing Friday.

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Speaker 7: I mean they had just Halfley ticketed for the New

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Speaker 7: York Giants.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if that happens. Just start the mutiny in

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Speaker 8: New York.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Hafley, cam Ward Brian Dable.

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Speaker 8: That sounds good to me. I don't know what my

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Speaker 8: Jets do.

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Speaker 1: I your I on Brian Dable to the Titans.

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Speaker 8: Sounds like you have some inside information.

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Speaker 1: Addition, I'm America's honesty broker, also a twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven journalist.

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Speaker 8: Oh really, big Jay or lowercase Jay? Lowercase okay?

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Speaker 1: J mclin Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping

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Speaker 1: by the Herd Line News.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Neon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 7: Fox College Troops Friday features a prime time Big twelve

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Speaker 7: battle as Baylor looks to take down bill Selfs Kansas Jayhawks,

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Speaker 7: and all tips off Friday night, eight eastern on Fox.

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Speaker 1: By the way, classes resume for the Miami Hurricanes Monday,

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Speaker 1: so it'll be the first time now in the playoff

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Speaker 1: the kids are going to class and playing in the games.

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Speaker 1: They are about an eight point underdog to the Indiana Hoosiers.

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Speaker 1: A lot was made like two weeks before the college

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Speaker 1: football playoff teams were announced. Miami, Notre Dame, Notre Dame Miami,

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Speaker 1: who do we pick? The truth is both are going

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Speaker 1: to be in this college football playoff most of the

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Speaker 1: next decade. Marcus Freeman and Mario Christobal have a lot

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Speaker 1: in common. Big confidence, great recruiters, build physically tough, relentless defenses,

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Speaker 1: and both schools have big nil money. I said this morning,

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Speaker 1: if you give me if I had to project top ten,

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Speaker 1: next ten, the next decade with the transfer portal nil

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Speaker 1: and the playoffs, who will consistently be in that playoff?

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Speaker 1: The ten programs that will consistently be in that playoff?

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Speaker 1: Just to show you, I think a lot of it

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Speaker 1: is your top booster and your economy. I have three

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Speaker 1: Texas schools in it, Texas Texas and m and Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: They should all be in it. I have Ohio State, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Indiana because of Mark Cuban and their coach,

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Speaker 1: Miami big nil money, and USC and Oregon Phil Knight

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Speaker 1: and the LA economy. I do not have Georgia over

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Speaker 1: the next ten years. They just a year ago their

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Speaker 1: top booster passed away. They've lost five players. Georgia has

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Speaker 1: five dbs in a transfer portal. The best quarterback just

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Speaker 1: selected Vanderbilt the academic school over Georgia. So I mean

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Speaker 1: to me when you say, oh, what about Lane Kiff

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Speaker 1: and LSU, I don't think they'll have the money. I

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Speaker 1: think Levitt's going to be great, but they won't be

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Speaker 1: able to build top five six defenses. I think going

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Speaker 1: forward it's going to be about what is your economy.

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Speaker 1: Georgia has seventeen fortune five hundred companies, California's got fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: Texas has fifty four, and I think Texas is going

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Speaker 1: to catch up to them. So I have three Texas

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Speaker 1: schools over the next decade, Texas Tech, Texas A and M,

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Speaker 1: and Texas. I think they'll all be consistently college football

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Speaker 1: playoff teams. We know Alabama can't keep up. That we know.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a reckoning period for Georgia. When I

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Speaker 1: watched Georgia this year, I didn't see a big distance

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Speaker 1: between them and Tennessee and them and Auburn, them in

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Speaker 1: Alabama and Alabama struggling in Alabama and now the players

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Speaker 1: and now I don't think ole miss going forward. I thought,

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Speaker 1: I think it was a great story. They won't be

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Speaker 1: able to buy both sides of the ball. Here's Mario

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Speaker 1: Christobaul on facing Indiana as a dog in the in

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Speaker 1: the Natty.

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Speaker 10: We have to prepare for an awesome opportunity. We preach it,

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Speaker 10: we teach it, and then we go and we we

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Speaker 10: get away from everybody, just like we did a couple

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Speaker 10: of weeks ago, the last couple of weeks when we

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Speaker 10: went on the road, and that's where I know the

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Speaker 10: process was quote I asked about earlier, It's it's no different.

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Speaker 10: Just got to shut out the outside world and go

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Speaker 10: to work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just a new world. We've seen it.

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Speaker 1: Not only three years in a row with no SEC

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Speaker 1: team in National Championship. We've seen that. Go look at

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Speaker 1: who the SEC is beating in the College Football Playoff,

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Speaker 1: only SEC schools and two they're they're not winning the

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Speaker 1: other games. So I think the drop off is precipitous.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to an agent and NIL agent this

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Speaker 1: weekend and a one of those ten schools, Northern schools

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Speaker 1: I talked about, who already has two really good receivers

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Speaker 1: that will play on Sundays, is bidding on another receiver

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Speaker 1: seven figures out of Syracuse. Like that's the kind of

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Speaker 1: money that's been Like it is it is Notre Dame, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, three Texas Schools, Phil Night money, USC money.

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Speaker 1: It's just six seven hundred thousand dollars for off ball linebackers.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of money we're talking about until the

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Speaker 1: NCAA can get this whole thing fixed. So and Indiana,

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Speaker 1: I mean again, Indiana's got a great business school, massive alumni.

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Speaker 1: And I said this two years ago. These big ten

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Speaker 1: schools are bigger than SEC school. They got forty fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand people and a lot of good business schools, and

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Speaker 1: those kids pour out to the West coast, East coast,

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Speaker 1: and then they come back to write a check for

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Speaker 1: football and basketball, especially football. So that's where we are

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Speaker 1: right now. I think Miami keeps it close for a

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Speaker 1: while against Indiana. And again, say what you want about

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Speaker 1: Carson Beck, but this will be his third national championship.

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Speaker 1: Gaming's in so he's been around the block. My top ten,

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Speaker 1: next ten there it is Miami SC, Texas, Texas A,

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Speaker 1: and m Texas Tech, Notre Dame, Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan, Indiana.

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Speaker 8: All right, let me ask, uh, sorry, people, what's wrong?

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Speaker 1: Why is USC in there? What's that about LA's economy?

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Speaker 1: They just had the best recruiting class. Why they got

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Speaker 1: their collective in order, and they're building a three hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollar facility and they're paying Lincoln Riley eighty million

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Speaker 1: over the next eight years. Money's not an issue.

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Speaker 8: Got just make it sure because I'm sure. Yeah, Indiana is.

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Speaker 8: I love this story.

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Speaker 1: College great, it's awesome, great business school. So that that

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Speaker 1: I didn't say the previous ten. I've got two SEC

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Speaker 1: teams in there, Texas and Texas A and M Oil

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Speaker 1: Money remains undefeated. I'm sorry. I mean that that's Texas

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Speaker 1: Texas nightmare for the SEC two