1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: DAYBAC podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: you listen. It's Friday, the twenty third of February. I'm 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: Caroline Hepka. 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: And I'm Lizzie Burden coming up today And video's quarter 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: of a trillion dollar surch sparks a global stock rally. 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: But as equities surge, more fed speakers Pylon to say 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: that rake huts aren't coming anytime soon. 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: And Putin makes friends in Africa. Why Russia's shipping free 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: food to countries on the continent. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: A record breaking two hundred and seventy seven billion dollar 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: one day jump in the value of Nvidia has helped 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: to fuel a global rally in equities that's seen markets 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: from the US to Europe and Japan hit all time highs. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: The SP five hundred, the Nasdaq, and the MSCIS Asia 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: all country in DEA closed at new records in the US, 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: while Asian stocks also jumped. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: Home. 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: E Lynn, senior macro strategist at Lombard Audier, says he 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: expects American equities to continue their rise. 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: When you see a rally like this, first of all, 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: you have to respect the price section and momentum, so 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: we are incorporating that in our portfolios by overweighting US 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: equities at the expense of European equities, for which we 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 3: think the macro and policy backdrop is slightly more challenging. 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: Home in Ly's bullish view on the US comes despite 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: increasingly hawkish language from Fed policymakers, with a number of 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: rate setters pushing back on the idea of rate cuts 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: in the coming months. Much of the stock rally so 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: far in twenty twenty four has been powered by investor 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: expectation that the Federal Reserve will begin to cut interest 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: rates later this year. 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Former Treasury is actually Larry Summers is warning that financial 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: markets are underestimating the risks of political and social turmoil 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: around the world resulting on populist policies. He highlighted the 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: dangers of protectionism and restrictions on the free flow of goods, capital, 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: and people, calling them very real. 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: Risks nationalists populist policy, both at home in terms of 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: the rule of law internationally in terms of protectionism and 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: restrictions on flows of goods, flows of capital flows of people. 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 4: But they are very real risks, and they seem to 43 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 4: me to be insufficiently. 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: Christian Summers is a paid contributor to Bloomberg. Television has 45 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: caused the coming US election, the most consequential vote since 46 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: World War II. 47 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: Top FED officials are emphasizing the need for patients on 48 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: rate cuts. Their calls come in the wake of strong 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: US economic data, including a surprise drop in jobless claims 50 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: for the weekending February seventeenth to two hundred one thousand, 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: well below estimates of two hundred and sixteen thousand. FED 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: Vice Chair Philip Jefferson and Governor Lisa Cook say inflation 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: is cooling, but they added that they need to see 54 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: more evidence before lowering borrowing costs. Jefferson also says excessive 55 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: easing could stall progress. 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: The labor market can change dramatically. We have to be 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: careful and we have to. 58 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 5: Try to assess the different shocks that can hit the economy. 59 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 6: I would like to have greater confidence that inflation is 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 6: converging to two percent before beginning to cut the policy rate. 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 6: I would see an eventual rate cut as adjusting policy 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 6: to reflect a shifting balance of risks. 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Vice chairv Jefferson and Governor Cook speaking there. The remarks 64 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: from policymakers come as economists forecast the Fed's preferred inflation 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: gauge will rise at the fastest pace since twenty twenty three. 66 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Standard Chartered has announced a one billion dollar buy back 67 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: program as its profits last quarter beat which analyst estimates. 68 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: The lender's fourth quarter adjusted pre tax profit rose by 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: sixty three percent to one point zero six billion dollars, 70 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: beating estimates. Following the strong results, the ferminals a new 71 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: Fit for Growth program that will save over one and 72 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: a half billion dollars over the next three years, boosting 73 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: returns for investors and galvanizing the bank's stock, which has 74 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: plunged by more than twenty percent in the last year. 75 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: Has been a priority for Standard Chartered CEO Bill Winters to. 76 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: The UK Parliament now where more than ten percent of 77 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: all MPs have called on Lindsay Hoyle to quit. The 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: motion of no confidence is a fallout from a rule 79 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: change the Speaker of the House of Commons made which 80 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: helped the Labour Party avoid a rebellion on Gaza. Prime 81 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: Minister Rishisunak stopped short of calling for Hoyle to go 82 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: instead blaming pro Palestine protesters. 83 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 7: The usual ways in which Parliament works were changed. Now 84 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 7: my understanding is that the Speaker has apologized for what 85 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 7: happened and is reflecting on that. But I think the 86 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 7: important point here is that we should never let extremists 87 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 7: intimidate us into changing the way in which Parliament work. 88 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: As back continues to overshadow government business and any debate 89 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: over Westminster's approach to the Israel Hamas War. 90 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: And finally, for the first time since nineteen seventy two, 91 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: the United States is back on the Moon. In a 92 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: mission marred by challenges including a harsh environment and last 93 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: minute changes, Intuitive Machines became the first private firm to 94 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: land an intact vehicle on the lunar surface. The NASA administrator, 95 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: Bill Nelson says that the trip was an important victory. 96 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 8: Today, for the first time in the history of humanity, 97 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 8: a commercial company, an American company, launched and led the 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 8: voyage up there. What a triumph Odysseus has taken the moon. 99 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Bill Nelson works ser NASA, which paid nearly one hundred 100 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: and eighteen million dollars for the mission. The landing is 101 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: a milestone for the business of space after previous attempts 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: to reach the surface where a private craft failed. In 103 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: a moment, we are going to talk about, well, the 104 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: stocks rally, what hellse Jill Disis, our Bloomberg Economy and 105 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Government editor will be joining us, but we should really 106 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: reflect on the search to an all time high for 107 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Nvidia a single session. There was a lot of anticipation, 108 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot of concern about whether Nvidia could deliver in 109 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: terms of the results. The investors absolutely loved. 110 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 9: It, Liz it. 111 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love this line from Stacy Ragson at Sanford 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: s Bernstein. 113 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 9: They are just printing money at this point. 114 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: And it's not just Nvidia itself that's at a tipping point. 115 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 9: Using the CEO's words, he is too. 116 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: He's on the verge of becoming one of the top 117 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 2: twenty richest people in the world. 118 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 9: That's according to our Bloomberg Billionaires Index. 119 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, hang on, he's not quite there yet though. He's 120 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: twenty first richest, wealth increasing by nine point six billion dollars. 121 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: That's quite some sum. 122 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 2: The thing is that this point, everybody owns in video, 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: so when he gets rich, so do all the other billionaires. 124 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: Everyone except Kathy Wood because ARC hasn't held in video 125 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: of course since the start of last year, so she's 126 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 2: just got to watch from the sidelines talk about Fomoh. 127 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I think that's we have mentioned this before. 128 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: You know that Kathy Wood has missed out on this, 129 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: even though she was one of the early converts and 130 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: talking about the artificial intelligence you know, capacity, capability and boom. 131 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: But yes, you're right, and videos rally has really lifted 132 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: the fortunes of a lot of companies. How far does 133 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: that go? I think a lot of investors are going 134 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: to be probing this. It has helped the fortunes of 135 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: a lot of other billionaires and a lot of other businesses, 136 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: including in Europe ASML for example. But you know how 137 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: much does it sort of trickle down? It's just staggering 138 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: the gap between stocks and bonds right now. 139 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 9: Well, this is the point. 140 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: Kathy Wood's waiting for that rally to broaden. It's why 141 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: she's got broad or exposure. But that point isn't yet 142 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: as still down eight percent so far this year. 143 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 6: Is it? 144 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 9: Okay? 145 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, Well, let's turn our attention then to the 146 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: markets more broadly, talk about in video rate cuts in 147 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: the US and Europe may be looking less likely but 148 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: the strong earnings from chip maker in Vidia, who's a 149 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: stock price surge sixteen percent in a single day, have 150 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: fueled this global equities rally, markets in the US, Europe, 151 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: and Japan hitting all time highs. Joining US Now to 152 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: discuss his Bloomberg Economy and Government editor Jill de Sis, 153 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, Jill. So we've seen continued rally in Asia 154 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: this morning, the S and P five hundred, the NAZA 155 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: one hundred, the All Country Index all closing at new records. 156 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: Is in video really driving it all? 157 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 8: Well? 158 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 10: I think, Caroline, what we're really seeing here is when 159 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 10: the video is doing, is sort of epitomizing these strong 160 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 10: fundamentals that are underlying stocks right now. I mean the 161 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 10: fact that you're seeing, you know, I mean in video 162 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,239 Speaker 10: by its self, I think has obviously been beating expectations 163 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 10: for quite some time now. The market capitalization that it 164 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 10: just added over you know, a single day, two hundred 165 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 10: and eighty million dollars is absolutely or two hundred eighty 166 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 10: billion dollars really is just absolutely stunning. But it's really 167 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 10: sort of that fundamental idea of you know, it adding 168 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 10: in you know, all of the you know, all all 169 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 10: of these gains on the back of this incredible advancement 170 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 10: in artificial intelligence, what that ultimately means for the broader 171 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 10: tech market, and then how that's ultimately helping you know, 172 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 10: the SMP Nazak that that kind of stuff. And I 173 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 10: think that you're sort of juxtaposing that against this idea 174 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 10: that the narrative on inflation out of the US and 175 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 10: the FED policy hasn't really changed too much over the 176 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 10: past few weeks, particularly when you take into account some 177 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 10: of this other FED speak that we've been hearing recently. 178 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 10: So we just heard from several FED officials yesterday, you know, 179 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 10: talking about, you know, they eventually need to cut rates, 180 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 10: although they didn't particularly put any timing on there. That 181 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 10: narrative hasn't changed fundamentally. And so when you're not seeing 182 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 10: that you're change and policy, stocks can kind of just 183 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 10: keep going, especially when you're seeing such amazing results from 184 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 10: a company like in Video, And I think that that's 185 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 10: kind of you know, playing out across global markets right now. 186 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Berdie in the newsroom told me this morning that 187 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 2: sixty six billion dollars worth of Nvidia shares traded hands yesterday. 188 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: It's the second biggest day for volume in history. Second 189 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: only to the day of Tesla's inclusion in the S 190 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: and P five hundred, So it was a huge deal, 191 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: even if it's not the only thing that's driving the 192 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: equity rally. But Jill, the bit of the laggard in 193 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: the markets this morning has been China, Hong Kong, they're 194 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: in the green now, the Hang Sang Tech Inneck's still 195 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: down five tenths of eight percent. 196 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 9: What's the problem there. 197 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 10: Well, Lizzie, I think that you know, China has some 198 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 10: other more fundamental problems here that are continuing to drag 199 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 10: these stocks down, particularly over the last week. So you 200 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 10: can't really talk about China without talking about the economy, 201 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 10: which is slowing down. You're seeing this this big slowdown 202 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 10: in growth that's continuing to weigh out on sentiment there. 203 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 10: We did see bit of a rally before China went 204 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 10: on this week long lunar New Year holiday last week. 205 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 10: We were hoping to see something of an improvement at 206 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 10: the beginning of this week as stocks finally reopened after 207 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 10: that really really lengthy break, but that hasn't really materialized 208 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 10: in China. That's in part because some of the data 209 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 10: that we've been getting recently just really hasn't been as 210 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 10: strong as we would have liked. We saw some travel 211 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 10: and spending data over the course of the Lunar New 212 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 10: Year holiday, which we're pretty strong on the face of things, 213 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 10: but then you dug down a little bit deeper. You 214 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 10: saw that consumers in China were still being pretty thrifty, 215 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 10: which was a bit disappointing in China. Today, you just 216 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 10: got some data on home prices that wasn't particularly strong, 217 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 10: still showing you know, that fall of indicating that the 218 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 10: property crisis continues to be an issue there. So you're 219 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 10: and then you've also just got some of these larger 220 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 10: issues with the stock market in China that has been 221 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 10: experiencing this seven trillion dollars route over the last eighteen months. 222 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 10: Authorities are taking some efforts to curve volatility in trading, 223 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 10: but I think the sentiment problem is really just becoming 224 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 10: too much to bear there. 225 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, so that for the kind of China angle. Meanwhile, 226 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: we've got to do a quick comparison in terms of 227 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: the bone market. Is FED officials have been advocating patients 228 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: in terms of interest rate cuts, how patient can they 229 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: be when there's a lag in terms of monetary transmission. 230 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 10: Oh gosh, Well, I think that at this point that's 231 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 10: really the big question when it comes to the FED, 232 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 10: and I think the ultimate difficulty that they have to 233 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 10: deal with this year is they figure out when exactly 234 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 10: they're going to cut rates. I think that, you know, 235 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 10: the FED response to that has ultimately been, look, we're 236 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 10: incredibly data dependent and they're looking at all types of 237 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 10: indicators to decide when exactly they need to move the 238 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 10: needle on that first policy cut of the year. But 239 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 10: Fed official has been pretty adamant for the last couple 240 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 10: of months now that they don't want to move too quickly. 241 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 10: I think we just saw in the FOMC minutes the 242 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 10: other day that more most FED officials were worried about 243 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 10: actually moving too quickly on making interest rate cuts, while 244 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 10: only a couple were really suggesting that, you know, they 245 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 10: were worried about the long term economic risks of not 246 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 10: moving quickly enough. I think that, you know, at this point, 247 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 10: we just had a bunch of FED officials yesterday, Vice 248 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 10: Fed Fair Philip Jefferson, Governor Lisa Cook, we had Governor 249 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 10: Governor Christopher Waller. I'll kind of give a bit of 250 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 10: what I saw is still kind of the status quo 251 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 10: A bit on this, which is that you know they're optimistic, 252 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 10: bit that inflation is cooling, but it's just really not 253 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 10: time to cut rags yet. I think we still need 254 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 10: to wait a bit more time before we ultimately see 255 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 10: some specificity with which Fed officials are willing to say. 256 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 10: This is when you know we're actually going to see 257 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 10: a cut. 258 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, no one wants to start cutting if they're going 259 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: to have to hike again. All right, Bloomberg's Economy and 260 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 2: Government editor Jill Deesis. 261 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 9: We thank you for that analysis. 262 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: Now we're going to pivot to another story this morning. 263 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Russia is steadily expanding its influence across Africa with arm sails, 264 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Kremlin sponsored beauty pageants, and more recently free grain. It's 265 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: the subject of a deep dive story that we have 266 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: on the Bloombergmanal this morning. And joining us to discuss 267 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: is our Bloomberg Africa correspondent in Dhaka, Katerina Hoiser. Welcome 268 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: to Bloomberg Radio, Katerina, and for telling us about your story. 269 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: What does Russia hope to get in return for all 270 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: of this investment? 271 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 11: Well, I mean Russia is looking for new markets to 272 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 11: sell its grains. As it's facing sanctions or its war 273 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 11: in Ukraine. I mean, Russia is the world's biggest export 274 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 11: of wheats and it has a glood of grain after 275 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 11: several bumper harvests, and almost half of the nations in 276 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 11: Africa order in port thirty percent of the wheat from 277 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 11: either Ukraine or Russia. So as Ukraine is having difficulty 278 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 11: exporting its wheat since the beginning of the war and 279 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 11: also since last year as Moscow announced its decision to 280 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 11: end the Black Sea Grain Initiative, Russia is probably hoping 281 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 11: to fill some of that gap and also soften some 282 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 11: of the impact of viewers and European sanctions. Secondly, it's 283 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 11: also good pr for Moscow. While the donations are pretty 284 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 11: small between twenty five thousand and fifty thousand tons of wheat, 285 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 11: and we'll only cover small part of these countries' needs 286 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 11: by donating food, Moscow comes across as Africa's friend and 287 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 11: someone who sees the continent struggle, so this helps us. 288 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 11: The Kremlin is also looking for support on an international 289 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 11: state for example, for allies, they will vote in its 290 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 11: favor to you. 291 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: And. 292 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 293 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 294 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 295 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 296 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 297 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 5: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 298 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 299 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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