1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: A young co ed at LSU is missing and all 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: outsearch going on right now. Where is Corey? Corey Gaugier's 3 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: family became concerned about the LSU freshman after finding out 4 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: she didn't show up for work. Gauchier's car was found 5 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: unoccupied on the Mississippi River Bridge. A state trooper had 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: reported an abandoned vehicle to the local police, but there 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: was an accident before authorities arrived. Another driver hit Gauchier's car, 8 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: causing extensive damage. The Baton Ridge Police Department says that 9 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: Gauchier's car was still running. The LSU freshman's personal belongings, 10 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: including her phone and wallet, were still inside. The car 11 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: was towed to a junk yard. That's where her family 12 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: found it by pinging her phone. Reports say the police 13 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: department did not content act the registered owner after towing 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: the vehicle. Well, that settles it. I'm never letting John, 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: David or Lucy out of their rooms again, my thirteen 16 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: year old twins. I mean, this family is very, very 17 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: involved in their daughter's life. They let her go off 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: to LSU and the next thing you know, she doesn't 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: show up for work. They can't find her, they don't 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: hear a word from anybody, and the only way they 21 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: do figure out where she is by pinging her cell phone. 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: With me and all start panel to try and make 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 1: sense of it all. First of all, Cheryl McCollum, director 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: of the Cold Case Research Institute, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: and star of a new Netflix series, Bling Empire, and 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: you can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. 27 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: Dale Carson is with US criminal defense attorney out of Jacksonville, 28 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: former FBI that worked on the Wayne Williams Atlanta and 29 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: Missing Missing and Murdered Children case. Former cop and author 30 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: of Arrest Proof Yourself. Tony Wade in the search for Corey, 31 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: the commander the Cajun Coast Search and Rescue Team. You 32 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: can find them on Facebook at Cajun Coast s AR, 33 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Cajun Coast K nine SAAR dot com. Also with me 34 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: a young LSU student who has totally immersed herself in 35 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: the search for Corey, Gabrielle Clemens and her dad, my 36 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: longtime friend and colleague, Kirby Clemens. But first to Alexis 37 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: terres Chut Crime Online dot com investigative reporter also with 38 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: lead Stories dot com. Alexis terres Chuck, what is happening? 39 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Corey is a beautiful at nineteen year old freshman in college. 40 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: She was leading her dorm with left dorm on Tuesday 41 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: night before midnight. All of a sudden, after midnight. This 42 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: is what let me say, this is the last time 43 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: anybody has heard from her since she has been thing 44 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: for about a week now. She gets in her car. 45 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: She is driving, driving across the bridge and disappears. Absolutely 46 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: no traces of her whatsoever, no text messages, no phone calls. 47 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: We don't know where she is. A young man is 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: driving across the bridge and unfortunately, because if traffic hits 49 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: her car, he gets right out immediately. Is so concerned. 50 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: He looks inside, looks and he sees that there's a 51 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: cell phone in there, the car is running, there's a 52 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: person there, but there is not a person. Wait a minute, 53 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: all right, you said there's a purse in there, but 54 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: there's not a person. Well, that was a lot of 55 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: information to take in so quickly. Let me understand this. 56 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: So this young girl, Corey Gothier lsu co ed freshman freshman, 57 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 1: she leaves, goes out in her car. Nobody knows where 58 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: she's going. The next thing, you know, her car are 59 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: heading home rammed from behind on the bridge over the 60 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: Mississippi River. You know, that's interesting. You said she was 61 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: going home. Was her car pointed toward home or not 62 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: she turtling east? I think I believe that's where people believe. 63 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: You know, Let's follow up with Tony Wade, our longtime 64 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: colleague and Frank commander of the Cajun Coach Search and 65 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 1: Rescue team who was looking for Corey. Right now, guys, 66 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to this. Our 67 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: friends at NBC thirty three last that we knew she 68 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: was on canvas, so we call LSUPD first and so 69 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: they that's why they are taking the league. The family 70 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: says that her vehicle was found on the Mississippi River 71 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: bridge and that it was involved in an accident around 72 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: one am on April seventh. Last thing that we know of, 73 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: she sent my son a snapchat. At midnight, LSU put 74 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: out a statement saying that the car was unoccupied when 75 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 1: it was hit. We found out today that a state 76 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: trooper reported that the he saw an abandoned vehicle on 77 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: the Mississippi River bridge, and then by the time the 78 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: dispatch called it in and somebody from the Sheriff's office 79 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: could get there. The red had already happened, and that 80 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: it was headed eastbound on the bridge toward Baton Rouge. 81 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: Not sure if she was trying to come to my 82 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: house and change her mind or what she was doing, 83 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: but we know she left Baton Rouge and then eventually 84 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: was going back into Baton Rouge. You know, I just 85 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: keep looking at this girl's picture and I see her 86 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: big brown eyes and her beautiful smile. It looks like 87 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: she's looking right at me. Can we find her? Can 88 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: we help find her? The tip line two two five 89 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: five seven eight zero eight zero seven repeat two two 90 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 1: five five to seven eight zero eight zero seven. Where 91 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: is Corey? You know, this young girl has just turned 92 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: eighteen years old. She is a freshman at LSU. That's 93 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: just a few years older than my children. And when 94 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: I think of sending them off and suddenly this happens 95 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: to them. Back to you, Tony Wade, or should I 96 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: say Commander Wade with the Cajun Coach Search and Rescue Team. 97 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: Tell me about the search and about that bridge. You know, Tony, 98 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: you and I talked at length when I took the 99 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: children on an RV trip and we went over the 100 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: Mississippi and we went to the confluence where the Mississippi 101 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: meets the Missouri. And I'm just thinking about her car stopped, 102 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: still running over the mighty Mississippi. What could have happened 103 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: on that bridge. Tell me about the search, Tony. The 104 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: search right now is a massive search. There are just 105 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of different groups are 106 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: out searching right now. We did get a report that 107 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: a key nine from a team made an alert on 108 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: the river in the same you know, on one spot. 109 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: So they're searching it pretty good right now. But the 110 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: Mississippi is just so difficult to search because the currents 111 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: are rolling and rolling, and there's there's multiple things on 112 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: the bottom for things that get tangled in. It's just 113 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: it's it's a really tough start. You know, the Mississippi 114 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: is so vast, uh, Commander Wade, And you're telling me 115 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: that one particular area of the Mississippi is being searched 116 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: right now, Tony. Yes, they're they're running solar on a 117 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: spot right now where the dogs had indicated, uh, you know, 118 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: south of the bridge. Um. But but again, the Mississippi 119 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: just store. There's so many challenges at a search. They're confused, 120 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: the dogs or what have you. It's just it's a 121 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: really difficult search. I know there's a lot of ground 122 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: searches along the banks of the river going on. Um 123 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: there's gonna go for days, you know, And there's no 124 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: certainty in this case that she's actually in the river, 125 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: which I mean, for all we know, Commander Wade, she 126 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: could have been rustled out of that car. Is a 127 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: car still running and dragged off to be raped or 128 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: attacked in some way. And the dogs are hitting in 129 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: that area. You know, in some parts of the Mississippi 130 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: it's as deep as ninety feet correct, Yes, I think 131 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: the spots of the dogs alerted them. They were seeing 132 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: in between eighty five and ninety feet. And the waters 133 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: zero visibility as well. There's no visibility in anything. Is 134 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: that Dale Carson jumping in? It is jump in, Dale? 135 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: And also want to talk to you about those air 136 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: bags what you were telling me? Come ahead, Dale. Well, 137 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: the zero visibility water just amplifies the problem because of 138 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: the current. When you're diving in zero visibility water, as 139 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: I've done on occasion, you can't see anything. It's a 140 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: matter of feeling for things, turtles and all that sort 141 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: of thing. You don't know what you're going to lay 142 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: your handgot. But when I looked at the photographs of 143 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: the actual crash, it's interesting that the airbags were deployed. 144 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: And my research indicates that static car the airbags when 145 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: the rear end strike are not supposed to walk. Slow down, 146 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Slow down. You know, when you and Tony Wade with 147 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: his Cajun accents start talking so fast, it's a lot 148 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: of information to take in. You guys got to slow down. 149 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: You know, we're just lawyers, Okay, crime stories with Nancy Grace. 150 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: Guys are talking about a missing girl. She's eighteen years old, freshman, 151 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: lsu the whole world in front of her. I want 152 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: to find this girl. Her family wants to find this girl. 153 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: So Dale, slow it down, You and Tony, slow it down. 154 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: What did you just say about the bags? So the 155 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: bags in the car. Airbags are not supposed to both 156 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: deploy if there's no one in the car or if 157 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: it's rear ended. And it appears what you were saying 158 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: is certainly possible that she was in the car. We 159 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: will know that when the DNA is checked on the airbags. 160 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: Every time an airbag deploys, it leaves a trace of 161 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: the driver on the airbag. If there is a driver, 162 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: so the airbags Alexis rushot crime online dot com and 163 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: lead stories dot com. The airbags did deploy. Guess that's 164 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: what we understand. But this is so strange to me 165 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 1: that a state trooper drives by, he sees an abandoned car, 166 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't stop, he doesn't investigate. But this is if 167 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: I drove by an abandon car, similar to the boy 168 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: that drove by the car, he would stop and try 169 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: to help. I mean, I stop it help every all 170 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: listen to me. We've been together a long time. Alexis. 171 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: If you see an abandoned car, do not get out 172 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: of your car to go help. Call nine one one. 173 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm not a police officer. Don't get out okay, but 174 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: she just said, okay, anyway, don't get out of the car. 175 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: Say you're right. Cheryl mccollo, I'm director Coldcase Research Institute. 176 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: You can find her at coldcase crime dot org. Jump in, Cheryl. 177 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: My biggest concern, Nancy is the car was still running. 178 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: That means whatever happened to her happened very quickly. If 179 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: she got out of the car because somebody you know, 180 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: stage direct with her. Whatever could have happened by a 181 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: perpetrator again was very very fast. I'm also heartsick for 182 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: her family. Can you imagine using find my iPhone only 183 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: to see that her car is totaled in a junkyard? 184 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go through the timeline again. Kirby, 185 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: Clement's joining me. This is Gabrielle Clement's dad. Gabrielle has 186 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: totally immersed herself in trying to find Corey. She also 187 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: is at LSU Kirby, Okay, the timeline that I understand 188 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: is she gets in her car and Jumpana likes us 189 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: if you've got a different timeline, And the next thing 190 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: we know, her car is reported abandoned on a bridge 191 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: over the Mississippi. The airbacks are deployed, the car is 192 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: still running, her purse and cell phone or on the 193 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: car are The car gets towed After this starts hitting 194 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: the news thanks to people like your daughter, Gabrielle clements. 195 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: The guy who henry car calls either the dad or 196 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: the uncle to say I hit her car, but nobody 197 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: was in it. Is that right, alexis dress Chuck, That 198 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: is exactly right. He is the one that he knew 199 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: what happened. He thought it was so strange, and he 200 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: reached out to the family because he didn't he didn't 201 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: know how to contact anybody. He contacted the police when 202 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: he hit the car and they came, but he didn't 203 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: know how to find But no, Corey, Okay, Kirby clements. 204 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: You and I have worked on prosecuted a lot of 205 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: missing people ending up in murder cases. Tell me what 206 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: your take is on this case, Kirby, Well, I'll tell you. 207 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: My daughter is the one that got me involved because 208 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: she had so she was so traumatized and so what 209 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: we One of the things that I had heard was 210 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: that they have an app on your phone. I think 211 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: the school provides an app that you can notify people 212 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: you know where you are and that it's appeared. And 213 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: her car had gone toward the bridge, then going back 214 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: into ls towards LSU, and then going back towards the 215 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: bridge again. I mean, right, she had movement travel. It's 216 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: that Gabrielle. Yes, Gabrielle tell us what she now dear right, So, 217 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: according to what I saw on Twitter that had been 218 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: posted by the family using the app called Life three sixty. 219 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: They saw the accident. They saw that using like videos 220 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: from the surrounding storage places she passed. She drove towards 221 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: the bridge and then away and then towards in a 222 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: way about four times prior to actually getting onto the 223 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: bridge where the accident occurred. So it was more so 224 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: like a sporadic driving where they weren't sure what she 225 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: was doing because she had already texted I believe her 226 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: cousin or her brother that she was on the way 227 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: to them, so they were anticipating her arrival. She moves 228 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: back and forth, and then the cars found on the bridge. Okay, guys, 229 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: Live three sixty works. I know I've got it on 230 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: the twins. We all have it on each other. So 231 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: when Lucy thinks she's going on a walk by herself, 232 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: listening to whatever she's listening to, we know that she's 233 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: okay and where she is because we can see her 234 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: walking you know home. It works. So, Gabrielle Clemens, tell 235 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: me your understanding of the car's movements. So from my understanding, 236 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: she went it was like she was going westbound in eastbound, 237 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: so she kept going forwards and backwards. It was a 238 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: lot of speculation when no one understood why if she'd 239 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: already said the direction she was going in it was 240 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: a known destination. I believe the DPS had the address 241 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: she was going to typed in, but her family made 242 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: a note that they that she would have known exactly 243 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: where she was driving too, So everything was confusing towards 244 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: the ending. And I think they narrowed it down to 245 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: about a ten minute time in which they did not 246 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: know what she was doing. Why does that tell you, Kirby, Well, 247 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: I what got me concerned is because I was thinking, 248 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: was it someone in the car or was she being 249 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: followed by someone and was trying to you know, avoid, 250 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, anything, And because I think that it was 251 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: reported that the vehicle decelerated rapidly you know, at the bridge. 252 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: So those are my concerns that it was either someone 253 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: was someone in the car where she having an argument 254 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: and just you know, got out, or was it a 255 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: something she was being followed and again, as you indicated, 256 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: someone staged an accident. And that was concerning. But what 257 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: was even more concerning was the fact that once they 258 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: found the car with the purse. I mean, if you 259 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: find a vehicle running with no driver, that says to 260 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: me start looking around for the driver right now because 261 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: it's a vehicle on the bridge, purse cell phone? Why 262 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: told we should someone should have been looking that night. 263 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: You know what's amazing to me, Tony Wade, our commander 264 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Cajun Coach Search and Rescue, is that there are not 265 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: there's not a surveillance camera on the bridge. There what 266 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm understanding, there's this there's cameras at the beginning and 267 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: the end of the bridge, but nothing nothing, No cameras 268 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: where the incident would have taken place out And what 269 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: does cameras show, Tony fact, that's what I was told. 270 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: Well did those cameras show? I haven't heard any information 271 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: at all, you know, all I was told us there's 272 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: no cameras where the accident took place at But it 273 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: seems to me we would be able to tell if 274 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: somebody was in the car with her. Yeah, that's that 275 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: has been my question all along. But Nancy Grace, it 276 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: also sounds like hesitation hesitation marks and a suicide. You know, 277 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: you're trying to decide what to do, and finally you 278 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: decide this is what you're going to do, Which leads 279 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: me to the point I was involved in the Atlantic 280 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: kid nappings and killings. And when a body strikes the water, 281 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't float, you can't see it. It goes directly 282 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: under water, and it's several days before it will actually 283 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: return to the surface. And with that current and the 284 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: actual river, the Mississippi River right there is in floodstage, 285 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: and so that body could be if it's in the water, 286 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: could be mile by. Now, Della Carson, you're the expert. 287 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: I know that. But Cheryl McCollum to me, if this 288 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: were a suicide of a girl this age, which is 289 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: statistically very very low likelihood, think about it. If you're 290 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: going to commit suicide, I think you would pull up, 291 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: cut the car off, and sit there and think, not 292 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: erratically go forward and back and forward and back and 293 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: forward and back, over and back. That sounds like someone 294 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: is hitting the brake and then trying to go forward, 295 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: almost as if you're in some kind of a struggle. Exactly. Well, 296 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the thing that bothers me the most 297 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: here is perception matters. And you've got a person that 298 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: no contact was made with the car owner, no contact 299 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: to try to find the driver, Nobody went out of 300 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: their way to figure out Why do we have a 301 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,160 Speaker 1: running corner bridge that's been wrecked with airbacks employed. Then 302 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: you've got the school taken down posters of a missing student. 303 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: The perception is nobody cared and we gotta do something 304 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: about that. Today, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Guys, we 305 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: were talking about a missing girl. She's just eighteen years old, 306 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: just turned Corey Gothier, LSU freshman. Her car is found 307 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: running with her cell phone and her purse in the car. 308 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: It's been rearended on a bridge over the Mississippi. Let's 309 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: talk about Gabrielle Clements. Is it true that a lot 310 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: of the posters missing posters about her were taken down 311 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: on campus? Right? So a lot of the students went 312 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: around after the uncle came to LSU, he passed out posters. 313 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: There was a large student help and they put posters 314 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: up all throughout LSU Student Union. That's like a really 315 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: dense part of the campus that gets a lot of 316 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: foot traffic. Some more people to see the flyers and 317 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: LSU had them removed and they sent out an email 318 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: to us basically explaining that it didn't have the official 319 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: LSU markings. Whatever may have been. But in my opinion, 320 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: I was like this, a girl is missing at the 321 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: end of the day, even if your school name isn't 322 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: on the papers, the goal should be to find her, 323 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: not say that you are attached to anything. So I 324 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: don't I felt that though. It just it was very 325 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: stressful to see that. And so eventually they did go 326 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: and put the posters back up. And this was during 327 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: around when they were doing school tours, so they took 328 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: them down during the tours put them back up. Prospective 329 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: students and their parents wouldn't say there was a student missing, right, wow, 330 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: But well, here's the truth of what more people, here's 331 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: the truth exactly. Here's the truth of what we learned 332 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: from LSU Amber Shearer. We are sorry for the confusion 333 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: that calls the posers to initially be taken down. An 334 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: employee was following our student unions and policies. Student unions 335 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: policies against hanging flyers on the walls. Obviously this is 336 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: a unique situation. The removal was unwarranted. The flyers had 337 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: been replaced. Yeah, I don't know what I think about that. 338 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: That's a whole nother can of worms. But okay, but 339 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: I think about it. Go ahead, when common sense is 340 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: not employed and you just we've got to go buy policy. 341 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? This isn't the poster put up 342 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: about hey joined the Nazi Club, and it doesn't have 343 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: the school official stance, and you can put this up. 344 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: This is a child missing and it should have been 345 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: everywhere with no concern. Should I agree with you? And 346 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: there's gonna be plenty of time for finger pointing after 347 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: we find her. I'm just not buying this whole suicide thing, 348 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, we need to shrink Nancy. Jump in, beth, 349 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: I mean Nancy. You talked about seeing the picture of 350 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: her and her family. She is gorgeous, beautiful, long brown hair, 351 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 1: big eyes. This woman. I know you can't all if 352 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: somebody has a mental defect just from a picture. But 353 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: she looks so intact. She's dressed beautifully, the car is 354 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: well maintained. This is an eighteen year old who has 355 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: the rest of her life in front of her. This 356 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: is not a girl who's going to jump off the bridge. 357 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: Even her belt perfectly matched, her pants and her top. 358 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: She's completely well put together. She is not a suicidal 359 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: young woman. Nancy. I just had a flashback to times 360 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: when I was in my late teens and early twenties 361 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: driving down the freeway and I would see a car 362 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: pull up behind me and side of men leering and 363 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: trying to follow me. It happens to young women all 364 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: the time. And what do they do. They start looking 365 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: for the nearest police station, or they start fumbling with 366 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: their ways of a navigation and trying to find it 367 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: a safe place to go. I don't know if somebody 368 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: was in the car with her and that's the reason 369 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: for the erratic driving, or if someone was following her, 370 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: but just her beauty and the time of night made 371 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: her a prime target. I would be curious was she 372 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: using ways? What was the navigation system? What was she 373 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: searching for that made her go back and forth? Was 374 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: she looking for a safe haven? You know? To you 375 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: electus to roscha crime online dot com? What can you 376 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: tell us about? Did she put her home address in 377 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: the nav she did? Like also didn't make sense to me, 378 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: because she knew how to get home her mom's home address. Actually, yeah, 379 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: so she she would know that. Although sometimes I like 380 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: to put it in the NAP to see if I 381 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: can beat my time home or something like that, in 382 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: order to see how long how long the time of 383 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: the day or night was this this was after midnight? Well, 384 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: probably started about ten thirty at night and minute and 385 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: then the car accident was after midnight, so Tuesday night 386 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: when day, very very very early in the morning. No, 387 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: she has no mental defect, Bethany at all. I'm looking 388 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: at this other picture for her while we're talking. If 389 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: her were wearing her little purple beanie hat. Just you know, 390 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: she's so involved. This girl has no mental defense. She's 391 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: not suicidal, nothing. But what can you tell me about 392 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: the boyfriend? Alexis Terreschuk. Didn't she have a boyfriend? She 393 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: did does have a boyfriend, and her family said that 394 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: he was the last person to see her that night 395 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: and that they were together. I guess they were in 396 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: there maybe his dorm and I meaning he's a student 397 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: at LSU and they got in an argument and he 398 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: is the last person who has seen her alive. That 399 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: is what her family had said. I assume at LSU, 400 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: Gabrielle Clemens, it's blanketed with surveillance cameras, right, so we 401 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: would know if she was the one that got into 402 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: her car or somebody else got into her car, right, right. 403 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: So ELSI frequently asks us to just identify people will 404 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: get emails identify this person, which we did not get 405 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: regarding her case. It actually took a good moment for 406 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: them to send us something, which they have now. But no, 407 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: so far we have not seen anything regarding her last 408 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: moment to LSU, at least not to my knowledge. Do 409 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: you know what was Gabrielle? No, I don't. But now 410 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: gabriel used to be an RA, so she's also aware 411 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, freshman are supposed are 412 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: what is what Freshmos live on campus, so they're supposed 413 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: to be correct. So freshman has to live on campus 414 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: most of the time. Your ras are aware of, like 415 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: if you're leaving, if you're going out of town, that's 416 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: that was the job was to keep up with your residence. 417 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: So it just yeah, Nancy, there there is a picture 418 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: from well it hasn't been published, but I understand from 419 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: her family that that's how they can describe exactly what 420 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: she was wearing, that there's a there is video camera 421 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: at the dorms that she was leaving, and so that 422 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: they can see that she was wearing kind of an 423 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: LSU purple sweatshirt and leggings. And I think legging, sweatshirt. 424 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: What did you say? I want to say pink slippers, 425 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: but maybe maybe you know, just like kind of shoes 426 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: and then her hair was in a bun. But the 427 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: photograph has not been released, but there is I believe 428 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: her family had seen the photo. Guys, the search is 429 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: intensifying for a missing lsu CO and her name is 430 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: Corey Gouthier. Her car found abandoned rear ended on a 431 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: bridge over the Mississippi River. She was leaving from her 432 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: dorm area to go to her mom's house that night. 433 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: She has not been seen since, last seen with the 434 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: boy last known to be with the boyfriend, they have 435 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: an argument, she leaves. This girl in no way was suicidal. 436 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: Why was the car going backwards and fords and backwards 437 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: and fords before it got to where it finally stopped? 438 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: The airbags deployed? Is their DNA on them? To Tony Wade, 439 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: commander of the Cajun Search and Rescue Team, his team 440 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: in charge of the search, I understand this dog, this 441 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: K nine has alerted twice during the search for Corey Gouthier. 442 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: What do you know? Well, that's about all I know 443 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: about that right now. And I know we got all 444 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: that some dogs in the separate team had alerted on 445 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: a spot of the river. They backed them off on 446 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: the spot and went back and the dogs alerted again. 447 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's so many people missing in that area. 448 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: It's one of the things that concerns me. We still 449 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: got two duck hunters that have been missing for months now. 450 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I trusted dogs. What a dog tells 451 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: me there's something there. I trust that that. But after 452 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: the dogs are learning, it's just it's so difficult to 453 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: try and do any kind of recovery. You know, they 454 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: put cement slabs in the Mississippi River to help fight erosion. 455 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: They have cables on those, so you can't necessarily drag 456 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: like you would do for a normal drawing case because 457 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: you tang them up from the cables. And putting divers 458 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: in the water there is extremely risky because of the 459 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: risk of entanglement. It's just the Mississippi. We have searched 460 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: on the Mississippi River for for years now, and it's 461 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: just it's one of the most challenging places that I've 462 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: ever been to do it. To offer to search just 463 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: just betremely difficult. It's extremely dangerous. Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 464 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: The guys were talking about a missing girl just eighteen. 465 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: LSU freshman Corey Gauthier dale her cell phone. Don't you 466 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: know a girl this age she had thought of suicide, 467 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: would have sent a suicide text. You know that I do. 468 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: And and one of the things that concerns me is 469 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: that the troopers went by and they didn't stop. And 470 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: this is now the scene of an abduction or a 471 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: homicide right there, and so there's no effort to check 472 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: the railings for anything. And it may be that the 473 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: accident that happened was only the second accident, not the 474 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: first accident, because when you have airbags deployed, that indicates 475 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: something has struck the front of the car. And apparently, 476 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: based on the testimony of this individual driving the car, 477 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: he hit the rear of her car, which should not 478 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: deploy the airbags. So, you know, the doc brings up 479 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: something really interesting, you know, it is that this girl's 480 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: put together, the likelihood of her committing suicide is minimal, 481 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: to be sure, and your idea that someone else was 482 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: in the car with her or she was being followed 483 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: seems to be more accurate. Yeah, the Nancy, can I 484 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: jump in f Also, she missed a doctor's appointment. That's 485 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: relevant to me because that's a future event that she's 486 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: sent and she's set in stone. That's not somebody's suicidal. 487 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: The other thing is a snapchat she sent her brother 488 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: at midnight. What happened between that snapchat at midnight and 489 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: being on the bridge at one That doesn't sound suicidal. Again, 490 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: she's sent in social tags, she's I can doubt disappointment. 491 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: She's got class, she's got work. But about that doctor, Bethany, 492 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: she's right, Well, I agree this woman had. This young 493 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: woman had a future ahead of her. I wondered what 494 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: the doctor's appointment was for and what was going on 495 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: with her health? Was she pregnant with something going on 496 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: with the boyfriend towards her? But Nancy, there's another big 497 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: story hole here, and I'm waiting for somebody to fill 498 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: it in. Was there anything going on on the LSU 499 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: campus that other young women had reported, you know, a predator, 500 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: somebody coming onto campus who shouldn't have been there, stalking 501 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: the women. Did this young woman have a stalker? Has 502 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: anybody looked at her online profile, her Twitter, her Instagram, 503 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, her emails to see if anybody was preoccupied 504 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: with her. You know, eighteen year old young women who 505 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: travel predictable routes and are in college are at a 506 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: very high risk for abduction, sexual abduction off the side. 507 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: So there's so many more avenues to explore the scene 508 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: of the crime. Potentially, it's not just on the bridge, 509 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: that it may have started months or weeks earlier, with 510 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: some other relationship or something that was going on in 511 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: her life, or where she was being victimized somewhere. I 512 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: actually have a point on that one that's actually rather 513 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: not actually that's the whole reason Gabrielle actually came home. 514 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: And we're not making this about gabriel at all, but 515 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: but Gabby Gabbie had an experience out in LSU just 516 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: in February. Every I just go ahead and just give 517 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: the right. So I was driving across the street I 518 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: regularly drive. A group of white males and a truck 519 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: next to me, asking me to wind down my window. 520 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: I do where They're just asking me questions and at 521 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: the end they yelled that they're coming for me and 522 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: proceed to follow me. I was driving to a friend's 523 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: house at the time, in which I switched my direction. 524 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: I said I should just go home. It's about nine 525 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: o'clock at night. They follow me. I take a different 526 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: route home. I'm putting backstreets. There still behind me. Eventually 527 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: I duck off into a CBS parking lot and I 528 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: just turned off my car lights and sit there. See 529 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: the car drive next to on the street next to me. 530 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: They don't see me. They keep going to which I 531 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: go into the CBS, called my father and have a 532 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: worker there escort me out. So that was I reported 533 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: it to LSU police pretty recently, actually not at the time, 534 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: but did still report it and basically came home within 535 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: a week of it happening. It was enough for me 536 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: to just decide I didn't need to be out there anymore. 537 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: So if something like that did happen to her, God forbid, 538 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: but I could I could understand that I could see 539 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: that route happening. You know what, my Gabrielle, you just 540 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: put chills down my arms. Kirby, after all year gone 541 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: through to raise this child, to think somebody would come 542 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: along and try to get her like that. I'm just wondering, 543 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: what if anything like that happened with Corey just and 544 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: that's what that's what concerned me, because when she when 545 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: they gave the route of the car and how I 546 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: was tracked those Gabby was, you know, telling me, you know, sad, 547 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: this is what's going on. And so I was like, well, 548 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: what did she do? And then she explained the route. 549 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, that's that sounds like somebody that's 550 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: trying to avoid someone. And uh, I mean I thought, 551 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: I thought with the back and forth and the circling 552 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: and guys, take a listen to our friend Scottie Hunter WAFB. 553 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: As the search intensifies in the air, on land, and 554 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: in the water. The biggest question that remains for the 555 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: Nine News investigators is why Moore wasn't done the moment 556 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: someone else crashed into go Chase car early Tuesday. The 557 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: man who slammed into go Chase car on the bridge 558 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: said nobody was inside when he went to check the car, 559 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: and when they swear on cut lanes also was a 560 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: part car. So I locked up my brakes because it 561 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: was either the white car or the eighteen willing. According 562 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: to police, her car was left running on the bridge. 563 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: Once officers got to the scene, they found Gocha's personal belongings, 564 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: including her phone inside, and they had her car towed 565 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: to a junkyard. But to you, I'll like to jump in. 566 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: This is why crime scenes are so important. Was the 567 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: car in drive or park when it was rear ended? 568 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: I mean, those are important, critical factors that are lost 569 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: over time. When you tow a car out of there, 570 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: that all changes and we don't have that information because 571 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: the trooper didn't stop and assess whether or not somebody 572 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: was hurt or in distress on the bridge the first 573 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: time it was c you know what, You're right, Commander 574 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: Tony Way. That adds into the intricacies of this search, 575 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: all the missteps at the beginning. I understand that you 576 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: were also using drones and helicopters in the search. Yes, 577 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: there are multiple drones up. Helicopters have been involved in 578 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: the search. It's just widespread. And again, how things are 579 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: handled at the beginning, the faster you can get these 580 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: resources on scene, that's just you increase your odds of 581 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: finding something. You know, I think this was misshandled from 582 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: the very beginning. You know that troopers should have stopped, uh, 583 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: you know, And I agree with the evidence of the 584 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: crime scene that all of that has changed. Not the 585 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: call was removed. I agree with that one hundred percent. 586 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: But as a search aspect, it just makes it very 587 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: difficult when when first we're not giving information and then 588 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: we have to wait several days before we're even allowed 589 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: to do anything. Um. I just I just think across 590 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: the nation things need to change like this. You know 591 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: that there's probably a lot of people out there that 592 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: could have been found alive that that weren't because everything 593 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: was held up, you know, through policy or procedure. I 594 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: think those policies and procedures need to be looked at 595 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: and and changed accordingly. You know what, Tony White, I 596 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: agree with you, And there have been so many missteps 597 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: in this case. I hardly know where to start. First 598 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: of all them not uh police law enforcement not doing 599 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: anything about the car on the bridge. How can you 600 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: not notice that it's running and the airbags are deployed. 601 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: Second of all the posters being taken down. Third of 602 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: all acting like there's no urgency, as we see so 603 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: often when young girls go missing, they immediately think they're 604 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: a quote runaway. Everything has gone wrong so far until 605 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: the Cajun Coastguard has gotten involved. Guys, I want you 606 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: to take a listen to our friends at WA f 607 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: B LaVar co Chase says he only found out his 608 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: daughter was missing after his wife couldn't get a hold 609 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: of her Wednesday. Called me multiple times and that's highly unusual, 610 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: and she sent me a text that my daughter wasn't 611 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: answering a phone. So I immediately started calling trying to 612 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: contact Then I got nothing. The one step police did 613 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: not take was notifying the owner of the abandoned car 614 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: once he found out she was missing. Her dad says 615 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: he raced to bad and Urge. I left Lapplause from 616 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: where and I came to Benouge and that's kind of 617 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: when the process got started. BRPD says their main focus 618 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: was to move the car off the bridge to prevent 619 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: any other crashes. In a statement, they told WAFB in parts, 620 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: the registered owner of the unoccupied vehicle was not contacted, 621 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: but this investigation remained ongoing, from taking down the missing 622 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: posters to not noticing a car running over the Mississippi 623 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: with the airbags deployed, to not noticing the rear ending 624 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: to not contacting the owner of the car her dad 625 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: when it was first towed. Everything seemingly has gone sideways 626 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: in this case. Is there a chance we can bring 627 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: Corey Gothier Home Alive tipline two two five five seven 628 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: eight zero eight zero seven Repeat two two five five 629 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: to seven eight zero eight zero seven. We wait as 630 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: Justice entoals. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off was