WEBVTT - Jesse Tyler Ferguson - Modern Family Issues 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:07.400 Really now, really, really. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.480 Now, really Hello, and welcome to Really Know Really with 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.160 Jason Alexander and Peter Tilden, who asked you and your 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:18.120 entire Modern Family to please subscribe. And speaking of Modern Family, 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:22.119 today we meet actor, author, philanthropist, restaurant tour activist, and 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:26.160 star of Modern Family Jesse Tyler Ferguson. He reveals why 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.920 he had to come out as gay to his dad 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.760 three different times, and whether straight actors should be cast 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.519 as LGBTQ characters. He'll explain why he said yes to 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.159 appearing in Cocaine Bear and who the supposed documentarian was 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.240 that was filming Modern Family. Plus, we'll explore the strange 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.600 commonalities between Jason and Jesse and who lost the Primetime 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.800 Emmy Better. And lastly, we'll ask why there's a version 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.920 of Modern Family produced by the Islamic Republic of Iran 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:57.240 Broadcasting Company. Really No, really, really, we're rolling now. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:58.600 Oh, we're rolling, Peta. 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.720 We're rolling, Don It's like the worst, it was the worst. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:02.760 We're rolling. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:04.000 We're rolling. 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.640 It's not live. Jason going down it really is? 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:07.360 He really? 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.639 I have that actor thing about rolling business. 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.200 Okay, okay, dance for Grandma. 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.839 Boy. That voice we got a special guests. I would 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:20.880 say special guest, but this is truly I was excited 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:25.120 about this wonderful, wonderful. You were very wonderful human being. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:26.800 Who were you so excited? Because he was on a 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.720 hit show? Wow, and he's beloved. Wow. 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:32.240 Two for. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.080 You know everybody knows I love you. We just came 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:37.839 back from a We just took. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.920 A fantastic trip through the Miami Beach area. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:42.920 We went to Hollywood, we went. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.280 To Florida, and Jason's so funny. We booked the gig 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.520 and Jason goes good so we can leave fifteen minutes 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.760 before I said, not no, wrong Hollywood. Jason. By the way, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.440 I don't know if everybody listening has this a friend 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.880 like this, I can Jason doesn't read the second line 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:57.600 of a text, the second rune of an email. I 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.440 could write, hey man, I hope you're well. Second line 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.560 I just had a massive heart attack on at Cedars, 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.200 and you would write back, I'm doing good. I'm good. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.120 So I have to put stuff, color code it and 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.800 read it. He goes we never discussed that. He didn't 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.560 write that, And I can pull it up and he'll go, 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.400 oh yeah, oh yeah, I. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:18.000 Want to say. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:20.880 Of all the things that you have claimed that I 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.520 am good, bad at dude, don't do this is. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:24.520 The first one where you're right. 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.600 I will cop to the fact I am a bad 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.920 text and email reader. I feel like if it's not 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.440 there in the first two lines, it's probably not important. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.040 And I love that you're honest about This is the 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.360 first time acknowledge. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.600 You've called me, You've you've ragged me on my driving. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.119 I'm I'm a perfectly lovely driver. I don't know where 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.120 you pull that up to get me as being a 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:45.799 bad driver. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.799 Do you want me to bring up you actually you have? 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.920 Won't bring up the a I've had a few acts, Okay, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:51.800 I'm just saying I. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.760 Haven't one of them totally not my fault. One of 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:55.760 them not my phone. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:03:00.480 Okay, sure, Oh boy, all right, Wow, you're hurtful. I'm 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:01.560 just pointing out fasts. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.440 We're like family, all right. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.320 So our guest, our guest right now is Jesse Tyler Ferguson. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:10.040 You know from Modern. 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.720 I knew Jesse Tyler Ferguson when he was a pup 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:15.600 back in his theater days. 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.880 Well he still has. So let's talk about this for 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:20.520 a second. He's doing a lot of a lot of theater, 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.519 a lot of Broadway, minor family. We know him from 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:24.320 eleven years. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.720 Eleven years and Emmy, oh wait wait. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.480 Wait stop, you know something. You have to step on everything, 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.320 you know what. We prepare things and then you ruin them. That. 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.600 I didn't see that in the email. So let's bringing. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:38.920 Don't don't mention, so let's not. 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.120 Let's bring. So let's start with that. You guys have 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.960 a lot in common. Hello Jesse, Hello Peter, Nice to 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.720 see yourself. Here's the deal. Let's open with this. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.200 Yeah, you have a lot in comment so much, both 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:48.440 in the. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:55.280 Producers, both both Tony Award winners, Yes, and both nine 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:59.680 years playing a role, eleven years playing a role, and 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.760 now ever got an Emmy for that role. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.040 You were nominated though, right, I was nominated many times? 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:10.320 How many times? Seven more than me? Five? 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:10.920 Right? 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:12.640 And you must really suck? 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.479 So I suck, but you must really, I really do. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:20.040 Here's here's here's the talk. Here's the talk. The Emmy 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:27.960 voters every year for eleven years went still not buying him. Jason, Jason, 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.520 George Costanza. You know what I just if he just. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:31.719 Yeah, he's good, he's good. 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:35.760 But David Hyde Peers, boy, you nemphasis I had you 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.080 know who? I lost you every time either and I 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:42.160 totally get it. Yeah, either David Pears or Michael Richards. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.640 Yeah you know I lost. I lost my stars. I 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:47.440 lost to Eric. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:52.640 Twice twice and then Tony Hale, who I also adore once, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:54.880 so you know, I can't complain. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.920 And we're always in the first category up. So then 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.680 you sit there, I haven't changed. God give me a 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.400 kind bar or or a night. 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.880 Did you work yourself up? Like eleven years every time 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.120 did you go? It's got just by the math the 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:09.680 mass alone. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.040 It is only one year where I thought I had 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.800 a shot. The other years I really thought I was 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.040 lucky to be nominated, truly. And then the last time 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.880 I was nominated was that the season where I got married, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.120 and I just I I The episode I submitted was 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.560 one of the wedding we had episode two, part wedding episode, 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.680 and it just had a lot of there was a 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.400 lot of great stuff. There a lot of great stuff 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.240 with my dad, Jay Jay Pritchett, who's played by the 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.440 brilliant Ed O'Neill, and I just I thought, well, if 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:36.920 there's if there if they were ever going to give 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.440 it to me, this would be the time and then 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:40.640 tie one again. 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.320 And how how long do you have to act like 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.520 you are thrilled for him? Is it the day? Two 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.680 days a week? How long you have to go congratulations 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.240 against it? Like New Year's Like Larry David says, after 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.840 January fourth, you can stop saying having New Year. When 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.200 do you say thy it's enough already? 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.960 I thought I said it immediately, immediately high enough is 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.160 enough while he was up there doing his acceptance speech, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:04.280 So enough time. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.960 Obviously I was thrilled from but you know, it's it is. 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.760 It was one of those things like remember I think 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.200 as Amy Poehler after like her eighth nomination for Parks 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:17.200 and Recreation, she was. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.080 Like, oh, okay, I get it. I see what's happening here, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:20.800 jokes on me. 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.800 Ahaha, That's kind of what I was starting to feel. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:27.000 Like, did Cort Nelson almost get Did he turn down 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:27.760 the other on your room? 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:28.159 He did? 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.599 Really, that's a real thing first, really know? Really? Is 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:33.640 that you guys between you, I love to do the 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.800 accumulatively twenty years and no, Emmy, that's nomination. That's amazing. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:38.480 Although I have. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:42.479 An Emmy, I'm sorry, that doesn't matter. 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.000 I read it in Wikipedia, which means it has to 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:49.200 be true that you kind of gravitated to the idea 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:50.200 of acting when you were eight. 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.080 Around that age, I was a little I was twelve 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:53.440 or thirty. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:57.840 Yeah, but when you were fantasizing about, hey, if this works, 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.400 I will be a what was it? 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.200 Was it theater? Did you think the whole. 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.320 That we have so much in common? Jason? 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.200 Actually, you've been on my mind a lot recently, and 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.760 apart for many reasons, but one of the reasons is 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.760 because I went and saw that fabulous production. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:15.320 Merrily we Roll Along. 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.560 It's on Broadway right now, and I just think about 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.000 you every time I hear that music, and you know 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.240 that you are such a you know, part of part 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.920 of an iconic show like that, and obviously they had 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.560 a very turbulent past, and but I just love that 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.960 you were part of its history. And then also just 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.800 that you your roots are in the theater, and that's 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.400 like I could I know that's where your love is. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.880 And then also just because I'm having I'm running to 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.440 a lot of people now who are discovering modern family 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.800 for the first time, and I think your show is 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.400 very similar in that it lives on this platform now 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:50.080 and people are they they'll discover Seinfeld and watch it 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.400 and fall in love with it all over again, you know, 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:54.240 fifty years later. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.720 Yeah. No, I mean it's almost we're getting there. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.120 We're getting really close. But yeah, theater was always my 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:01.640 first love. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.600 So yeah, here's here's the question. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:06.720 It's a weird question, and I don't want it to 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.760 sound like I'm not grateful or anything like that, but 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.880 did you when you were up for the Emmys? Did 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.360 it was it important to. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:18.120 You to win it? 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.480 I want to I'm going to say no, but I'm 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.960 also going to I'm going to say that I was 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.760 disappointed not to win it. Yeah, but when the first 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.600 time I was nominated for an Emmy, I really was 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.720 so shocked that I was being recognized because I was 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.120 in this ensemble of six brilliant adults, and also the 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.400 kids were so fantastic. I knew Eric would be recognized. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.920 I knew Tibe I would be recognized. I really kind 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.400 of had a I couldn't make a case for any 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.240 of the other people, but then the fact that I 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.320 was included was just sort of a surprise, And so 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.080 for me, it just sort of felt like that was 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:54.560 the win and the I mean, I never like stood 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.080 in front of my bathroom mirror imagining winning an Emmy 0:08:58.200 --> 0:08:58.880 or even an Oscar. 0:08:58.920 --> 0:08:59.920 But it was always a Tony. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.200 That's exactly all I when I'm asked about this. Yeah, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.400 and so now I'm going to ask you the follow 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.960 up questions. Yeah, I won my Tony when I was 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.520 twenty nine, and I thought I had very Robin you 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:17.600 bet you. I thought I had really realistic dreams about, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.200 oh maybe when i'm forty, I'll get to Broadway and 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.120 maybe i'm sixty, I'll play some great role and I'll 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.400 be nominated for Tony. And then at twenty nine it 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.320 hits me and I again, I don't want to lead 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:29.520 the witness. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.960 You win the Tony. Did it meet your expectations? 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.920 I'm going to say yes, only because I did a 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.360 lot of theater before that, and I did some roles 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.640 that I felt like were Tony nominational worthy? 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.520 Right, But I was, I had been. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.520 I don't want to say ignore because everyone that was 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.840 nominated was obviously very worthy about there was some disappointment there, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.960 and so when I was nominated, just being able to 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.640 stand in front of it. I'm kind of glad that 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.439 it did happen later in my career, not not when 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.600 I was in my twenties, but like I was able 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.080 to stand in front of this community that meant so 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.200 much to me and meant so much to me before 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.840 I even got to New York, like I dreamed of 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.160 being on Broadway when I was a kid in Albuquerque, Mexico, 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:21.160 listening to Cast albums in my bedroom, like to stand 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.199 in and like, you know, Patty Lapone and Bernard Peters 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:24.840 are in the front row, and like, these are some 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.640 of the people that I would listen to in my 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.760 They rescued me from situations when I was a kid, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.240 like they meant so much to me. And to stand 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.200 in front of that community and say thank you so 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.120 much for allowing me in that meant everything to me 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:39.440 so in that in that respect, Yes, it did mean 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.400 as much as I thought it would. It probably meant 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:42.840 more than I thought it was going to me. Yeah, 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.199 because I got to thank the community the ward itself. 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.199 Probably not like I think all awards like never mean 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.120 as much as you want them to mean. I don't 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.080 change your career in ways that you want them to change. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.040 But for me that personal moment of being able to 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.440 stand in front of the New York theater community and 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:02.040 thank them was really powerful. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.240 It's so interesting I hear and understand everything you just said. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.480 And you know, my experience was. I was young enough 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:13.200 that I kept thinking, well, when I win the Tony Award, 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:17.400 I will be someone, or my life will achieve something, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.640 or I'll be a I will have gotten to the 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.200 there that I dream about. And I remember same thing going, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.040 I can't believe I'm here. I can't believe this is happening. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.199 Tommy Toon gave me the award. He hugged me, his 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:35.720 belt buckle went into my face. And I made the speech, 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.559 and I went to the party, and I went home 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.960 and there were twenty messages on my machine. 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.000 And twenty messages was a lot. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.680 I mean, the normal day is three four messages, but 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:45.760 it wasn't a hundred. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:46.800 It was twenty. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:47.280 Yeah. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.120 And I went to bed that night, and my wife, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.439 who knows how much I love the show Pippen, says 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.840 to me, how do you feel? And I went I 0:11:55.840 --> 0:12:00.280 thought there'd be more plumes, and it was a lead 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.559 great lesson about it's not the destination, it's the journey 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.880 and yes, and that's why when when I start, when 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:08.840 I started getting nominated for Emmy's, I. 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.160 Thought, well, that's a lark. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.319 I never even thought i'd be on TV. 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.559 Yeah, you know, and sure you get there and you go, well, 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.440 this would be cool. I guess you wanted, but it 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:23.120 was never I never had that sort of crushing Oh geez, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:24.640 I should or why not me? 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.800 Or you know, I think if you're starting to feel 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:29.400 that you're you're obviously for the wrong reason. Yeah, I mean, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.480 I'm sure we can always be disappointed, but like, think 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.080 about how many people are on television and just you 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.760 were one of five or six showsen to be honored 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:40.520 by just the nominat. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.559 Oh wait, let me ask you about that. You guys 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.520 decided we're all going to be supporting actress. They got 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.120 together and said, nobody's going to be the breakout. We're 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.120 going to do this because you're a thompl Seinfeldt also 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.640 shared those guys would say, like, I know, Jason would 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.840 say to Juliet, you know, I think this line's funnier 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.559 for you than me. It was very much that. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.320 Yeah, I mean that was the you know, to the 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.520 extent that I can explain Why are ensemble became an 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:10.160 ensemble was very early on when the show was struggling 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.600 and we thought, let's just get some good tape for 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:17.520 our next audition. We couldn't help but enjoy with each 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:22.160 other we're doing. And there were instances where, you know, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.400 George would have a bit and I'd say, wouldn't this 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.560 be better on a lane? I mean, if it's really 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.880 a coin toss, it'd be funnier on our Or we'd 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.880 have a thing going and we'd go, you know, we 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.400 could we don't need this whole section of Michael just 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:38.040 falls on, you know, the trips over the thing. We 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.640 just started thinking of passing the ball right, and I 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:47.560 would have to assume you guys were you know, you 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:48.760 were the Harlem Glove drotterers. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:49.480 When it comes to that. 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:52.400 It was just there were so many Well it. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.000 Was a big cast, yeah, I had just I had 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.400 done a show a few seasons previous where it was 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.480 also a big cast. You know, the character is kind 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.120 of got lost, and so when I was part of 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:04.600 a big cast again, I was like, oh, I've been 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.959 through down this road before, but for some reason, the 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.960 writers were so good about for some reason, that's what 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.520 the Emmy Awards. But like they they they were so 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.400 great about like really carving out moments and really clarifying 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.360 who these people were a very efficient amount of time. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.840 And so the reason why there was so much richness 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:25.960 that I think it's because we were a great ensemble, 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.600 and like I think if you took a single person 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.800 out of that that group of six adults, like we 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.720 wouldn't have been as strong as a as a team. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:33.760 Absolutely. 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.280 Yeah, as a stupid question, sure, who were you all talking? 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:47.000 Yeah, the documentary the car where's is the guy going on? 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:51.600 You can do so storytelling and really trunk. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.320 There was an early version of the show where the 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.640 documentarian was actually a character and it was a a 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:02.600 Nix change student that had stayed with the Pritchetts when 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:04.680 they when he was young, like a Dutch exchange student, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:07.200 and so he came back and he was doing a 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.480 documentary about this family that he used to live with 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.160 when he was a kid, and so they had actually 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.120 honored that character as well, so he was part of 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.400 the story. Then it came to the point where like 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.640 we need to cut some there's too many people, and 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.080 he was the most natural person to cut, so but 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:25.720 they still kept the device of the documentary, so you know, none. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:26.160 Of us know. 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:28.520 Good. 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:29.960 But also in the first. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.720 Season we really were like, okay, well if this is 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.880 a documentary crew and we're coming in from outside and 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.080 we're going inside, and then like season three, you know, 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.880 we'll like you know, come home from picking up groceries 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.160 and like open our door and there's already a cruise 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.320 us like we've you know, we lost that device. 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.000 Because I'm such a linear thinker, the minute they cut 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.960 the documentary character, I'd go, why are we doing? 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:52.880 Well? 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.320 He would be doing So they're in the bedroom, so 0:15:55.320 --> 0:16:00.000 they went into the bedroom really and the guy guy sitting. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.160 Here scenes in the the night like wake up a 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.080 dream or something. I'm like, why is the camera over you? 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.000 Over you guys on the ceiling? 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.240 Okay, I just we just want to know that this 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.400 isn't really no, really, in Iran they took your sitcom. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.440 They took the gay characters and made them heterosexual. Right, 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.800 But they do basically a word by words shooting of 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.480 modern family. Can China really know? Really they have shows 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.400 and in Russia they have It's always Sonny in Moscow, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.560 So I'm wondering either a couple of things and I 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.520 don't know the answer, but I'd like to explort. Is 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.880 it because other countries are just as non creative as 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.560 we are that they do that they have to do 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:38.520 something they've. 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.000 Seen We took the office and the pilot of the office. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.200 The American office is exactly the same as the British. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.800 But these are there are countries that hate us, that 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:51.440 are taking our cultural families and putting them on. So 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:52.920 there must be something resonating. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:54.680 I'm just gonna be I'm going to give you a 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.720 little life lesson because you haven't been in as much 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:57.720 of the world as I have. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.680 When you say a country, hey, the country doesn't. 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:06.080 Understood, I'm just saying people you know, but that's the 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.439 governments might not do understand. But the fact that they 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:16.040 understand to talk then, but like in Russia to allow 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.600 that and Iran to allow that and openly. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.840 Iran Mitchell and camera bay Ruse and Elham. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.080 Yeah, a husband and wife, so what do you think 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.280 and you are to have children because Bayrus is infertile. 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:30.880 Yeah, you know, different problems. 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.600 So I want to because you have been a huge 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.359 gay right to advocate, especially when we were advocating for marriage. 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.240 So I just want to get your feeling in this, 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:41.960 and this is the way I'm gonna I have two 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:43.680 questions about it, and then I just want to see 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:47.480 where you go. I have two friends that are directors 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.040 that are gay, and you know, there's a lot of 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.920 in all of our unions, a lot of focus now 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.919 on diversity and inclusion and all this stuff. Gay is 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:03.280 no longer consider diversity g GA. It's not a diversity 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.600 higher right thoughts. 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.320 Because apparently all the boxes have been checked, so it's China. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:15.320 I mean, okay, here are my thoughts. I think it's 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.199 great because that means that there's been progress. And I 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.280 think that like the fact that you know, the Modern 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.919 Family started, this gay couple was a really revolutionary thing, but. 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.919 I think so, yeah, and on at least on network television. 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.360 And and you know, the fact that by the time 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.120 this show was ending, we weren't so revolutionary, I think 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:40.720 is actually really great. And you know, there was a 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.159 time when I feel like you know that it was 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:46.080 there was a great stigma around being openly gay and 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.080