1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio comis a Myth and Bullshit radio phonic novella. 2 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Local Radio hosted by Malama locomotis Welcome to Season three 3 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: of Local Radio. Because fem revenge has never sounded so sweet. 4 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: Look At Radio is a radio phonic novella archiving the 5 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: brilliance and legacies of women and fems of color. I'm 6 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Rsa and I'm Mala, and we are Las Mammies of 7 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Myth and Bullshit. Las Local Radio, which is a radiophonic novella, 8 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: which is just a really extra way of saying a podcast. 9 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Thank you for tuning in, Thank you, thank 10 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: you for tuning in, and for joining us in our 11 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: fem Tech quarter. Super excited to continue talk being about 12 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: fem technology. Yes, we love fem technology. This is one 13 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: of my favorite topics. I'm so happy we're covering this 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: this quarter. We've already interviewed some amazing mohetes to talk 15 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: about fem technology. 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The 105 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: question is how do you balance your multiple projects and 106 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: also make time for your home, girls, for your friends. 107 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. That's a great question. That's a 108 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: really tough one. Um, you go first, you start. You 109 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: always do this to me, how are you balancing love, friendship, life, 110 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: podcast job? You know, there's definitely friends that I don't see, 111 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: not for lack of wanting to see them, but because 112 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: I am so busy. Um. So I think one way 113 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: that I try to show that I'm like I'm still here, 114 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Like it's you know, not that I don't want to 115 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: see you, it's just like by sending them texts like 116 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: when i'm thinking about them or calling them, um and 117 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: just reminding them, you know, like how are you doing? 118 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't ever wanted to feel like, 119 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: oh I'm hitting you up because I'm inviting you to 120 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: something that I'm doing or um, I'm venting about something 121 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: like No, I like definitely don't want to be that 122 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: kind of friends. So I really do just send texts 123 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: when I'm thinking about them, like, hey, I was thinking 124 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: about you, or I've had like times where I haven't 125 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: talked to some a friend of mine in a couple 126 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: of weeks or maybe even even a couple of months, 127 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: and then they'll come to me in dreams and I'm like, Okay, 128 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: so I need to text them because either they need 129 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: to tell me something they're going through something, but um, 130 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: I need to reach out. So then I reach out 131 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, yeah, actually this is happening. 132 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: So definitely, like I'm very I don't know, I think 133 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: I'm very. I try to be very active in my 134 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: friends lives. Can't always be, but you know, the text 135 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: and the call really goes a long way. At least 136 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, the text is a huge deal, Like 137 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: to be able to text someone, especially friends, Like I 138 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: have a lot of friends who live out of state, 139 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: who are in New York and in Boston and just 140 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: different time zones, and it can be hard to keep 141 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: up with friends when your day is like you're at 142 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: a different place in your day than they are, right, 143 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: that makes sense every single day. Um, But so the 144 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: texting and social media goes a long way. Like I 145 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: really make use of social media to stay in contact 146 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: with my friends. For me, that's the best way that 147 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: I've been able to do that because someone can be 148 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: in London or fucking Armenia and like I can still 149 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: reach out and say, hey, you know if we even 150 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: if we can't see each other in person. Um, it's 151 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: really hard for me to balance all these different things 152 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: that we're doing and then making time for friends because 153 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: I need a loane time. I need a loane time. 154 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: And if it comes down to it, like I unfortunately, 155 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: well not unfortunately, I will cancel, like I cancel if 156 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: I just need to be at home, you know. So still, 157 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think ongoing as this gets as look 158 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: I thought I gets bigger, and we like we like 159 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: rarely have a day where we're not working all day 160 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: and also working at night on the podcast somehow. So 161 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: it's just so many hours out of the week and 162 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: we love it, Like I love it. I'm having a 163 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: great time. But I have not been able to figure 164 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: out balance yet because it's the workload is in increasing, 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: it's increasing. Yeah, and it's like you're not really on 166 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: a set schedule because every week looks different. It's wild, 167 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: it's wild ship and you know, this past week, um, 168 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: it was a little slower for us, like we were 169 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: in between, like we had a really busy week the 170 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: last week, and then next week will be really busy, 171 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: and then even the week after that. So this week 172 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: was really slow and I didn't know what to do. 173 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Almost like the week dragged because I wasn't like back 174 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: to back to back. So I had to give remind 175 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: myself and give myself perspective, like, Okay, well this week 176 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: is kind of slow, So this is your week to 177 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: go to the gym, to cook, to clean, to be home, 178 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to like all over l a take care. 179 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: It's time to take care of ourselves exactly and relax 180 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: and catch up on sleep, right, which is hard to do. 181 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: It's hard, and I see you know what you know, 182 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I self sabotaged myself for all like stay up and 183 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm like I should be asleep right now, and I'm 184 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: like still up doing whatever, like wasting time, rob robbing 185 00:09:54,480 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: myself of sleep is real. Yeah, sabot is just like 186 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: keeps me on my toes at all times, and the 187 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: only one sabotaging me is me because no one else 188 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: gives a ship And what would that what would what 189 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: would that even be? In Spanish? Like I like it, 190 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, so dramatic it is, but it is. Yeah, 191 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: we're out here wasting around time. Yes girl, Oh my god. 192 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,119 Speaker 1: I don't know why this is relevant to this conversation, 193 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: but it's not. But then even like things like, um, 194 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: I have to go shaper on the prom, like how 195 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: am I supposed to hang out with my friends if 196 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm shopper, because we actually do have like a friend 197 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: gets together today, like it's Maria's birthday. Happy birthday, Marizza. 198 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: By the time this is out, you'll have been thirty 199 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: for a month. We love you, Maria of the Mommy Collective. Yes. Um, yeah, 200 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: So reach out to your friends, let them, let them 201 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: know that you're thinking about them. Realistically, your friends that 202 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: support you know that you're busy, and it's not because 203 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: you don't want to see them exactly, you know, exactly. 204 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: So hopefully that helps. Yes, maybe it doesn't, who knows whatever. 205 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Thank you for that question. Yes, okay, So next question, 206 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: this is this one is intense one. It's a good one. 207 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: How do you talk to your family about reproductive justice? 208 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't you know what. I don't either. And when 209 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: we say family, what we really mean is like your 210 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: mom or your grandma maybe right, or I mean even 211 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: maybe extended family, you know. And I think that this 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: question is so important because I know like a lot 213 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: already Latin Next, folks, as voters, we don't really have voting. 214 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: We have the power, but we don't actually show up 215 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: and vote, like for folks that can vote, and when 216 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: we do, we tend to be single issue voters. Meaning 217 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: if like there's a politician or somebody that is pro choice, um, 218 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: your anti choice because you're Catholic and you're told that 219 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: you should be anti choice, sin, you won't vote for 220 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: them even though they have all these other things that 221 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: will probably benefit you. So then it gets really, really 222 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: fucking complicated. Absolutely. We were talking about this before we 223 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: started recording, right and the concept of talking to like 224 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: the like Michelle shout out Michelle Video video team, Hey girl, Um, 225 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: we were talking about having this this conversation and similar 226 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: conversations about abortion or birth control. We'll have you with 227 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: our mothers, and our mothers can be such wonderful mohaes, 228 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: but on these particular issues, like I know this is 229 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: true of my mom, these particular issues are just going 230 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: to be wound up in the Catholic point of view. 231 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: And we're not going to come to an agreement. We're 232 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: not going to be on the same side of things politically, 233 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: and so I kind of just don't get into it 234 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: with my mother. Somebody who's walgged by with a saxophone. 235 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we're in mariachi class. Literally just saw someone 236 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: walk by with this text. It's Boil Heights. Boil Heights 237 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: is It's a mecca of art and culture. Find all 238 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: instruments at all times. Okay, so continue, but yeah, So anyways, 239 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: I just don't broach the subject with her because I 240 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: don't want to get into it. I already know how 241 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: she feels. I know how I feel, and I think 242 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: we are at an understanding there. And you know, like 243 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: I was saying, I have barely just gotten to a 244 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: point of like of understanding with my mom about like, 245 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: don't make me feel guilty about not going to church. 246 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: I cannot support the pedophiles. I can't do it, like 247 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: the straight up petals. I just refuse and I have 248 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: to just be like mom, like if I go to church, 249 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: it's because of my mom, like to be supportive of her, 250 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: not for church, you know, And I'm not going to 251 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: accept the host to like I'm not. I don't do 252 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: it if I'm there, I'm just a warm body and appeal. Right, Yeah, 253 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: that's that's real. You know. My family doesn't really go 254 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: to church anymore. We like went to I went to 255 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: Calatholical school. My whole life. Um had the like lack 256 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: of sex education, like all of that. I had, Like 257 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: a white woman teacher in the eighth grade show us 258 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: like this horrible slide show about abortion. But it was 259 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: just like showing us horrible images of like fetus is fetus. 260 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't what you know, you know exactly what I mean? 261 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: Fetus is what is the plural of the fetus? I 262 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: don't know. Anyway, The point is that she did that 263 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: and it was all mangled and it was horrible, and 264 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: it was just a scare tactic as opposed to giving 265 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: us actual sex education. Um. Why did I bring this up? 266 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: Because we don't really go to church anymore. We don't 267 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: go to church anymore. Um, And I don't really know 268 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: what that's about. Like, if that was a conscious decision 269 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: my parents made, I don't think it's because like they're 270 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily religious anymore. Maybe it's because they're living in sin. 271 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't really know who knows, you know, but um, 272 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: I know that my mom is like pro choice. I 273 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: would say that my mom as like, you know, my 274 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: mom is in her sixties so like and she was 275 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: born to my Hankolf definitely grew up here, so even like, 276 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: so my mom like tends to like lean towards like 277 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: white feminism, and I'm like trying to like pull her 278 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, what about this and what about that? 279 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: You know? But she's definitely more liberal, um and like 280 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: a Democrat, so she's you know, pro choice. So I 281 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: don't necessarily worry about that with her, but it does 282 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: make me ask like, well, what if it was me 283 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: that had an abortion right or what if it was 284 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: me that you know, did whatever, Like how would you 285 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: feel about that? And it's not something I necessarily want 286 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: to venture into to find out, but it does make 287 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: me think, like, you know, what's what's that about? Because 288 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: I know when I came out, like my mom was 289 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: totally fine with everybody else being queer, but when it 290 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: was me, it was like, oh, well, so here's the difference. 291 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: So do women have rights or do daughters have right? 292 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: Daughters have no right, daughters don't have rights. Latina Latina, 293 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: daughters have no rights. Women might have rights, but do 294 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: daughters no rights? Hell no, no, because we're supposed to 295 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: go from parents home to husband's home. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, 296 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: direct handoff. They literally hands you off when you walk 297 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: down the aisle, like here you go, I cannot no girl, 298 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: no girl. But speaking of religion, so it's just so 299 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: funny that religion class is the sex said. It makes 300 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: no sense. We've talked about this a lot because we've 301 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: been talking about firm defense or just sex education in general, 302 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: like within the past few months at different universities that 303 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: we've been to, and like this has like come up repeatedly, 304 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: like recovering caffine, recovering Catholics and there being no type 305 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: of sex education and any type of sex that is 306 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: embedded in your religion class as opposed to its own 307 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: course like health or when you're learning bio. Like it's 308 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: just wild too, because I am remembering back to this 309 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: like nun in training, I don't remember what you call him. 310 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: She's like a nun in training, sister sister, miss Aaron. 311 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: She was like a white lady, and she told us 312 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: a story about how she wants shared a blanket with 313 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: the boy and the greatest regret of her life. She's like, 314 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: never do it. Never share a blanket with a boy. 315 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: He'll regret it for the rest of your lives. What 316 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: happened under the blanket is my question? And I'm sitting 317 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: there like thinking, like I think I'm a hoe, Like 318 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: this is not connecting. I'm not connecting with this content, right, 319 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: I do understand what is the issue? What is the 320 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: issue sharing a blanket? I don't get it. Really confused. 321 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: Good times, you know. So that's where we started, and 322 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: look at where we know. I'm proud of us. I'm 323 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: proud of us. Good job, girl, job. We're out here 324 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: being recovering AFLIX recovery. We're doing it. Yeah, I'm proud 325 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: of it. I'm proud of us. 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Okay, so we're gonna go into a 345 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: song bright now or belly rost and and and and 346 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and and and 347 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and belly rack 348 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: and and and the rack and and and and and 349 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: and um um from from um um from um um 350 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: m of it and little ship um All right, and 351 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: we are back. Scott was Megan B. Stallion? You know, 352 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: I hope that she gives us a summer anthem. I'm 353 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: sure she will. She will, I'm sure she's working on 354 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: one right now as we speak, Yes, already. So we're 355 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: going to get into the content of today, which is 356 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: actually fem technology. You know, we wanted to update our 357 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: FM tech episode that was of season one way back 358 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: in the day. So we just wanted to you know, 359 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: talk about some new findings that we have, some new 360 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: content context, um and all of that, you know, So 361 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it. Um. A quote that Mala 362 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: actually found on Twitter, Um, we want to pull that 363 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: a long time ago. We want to pull that as 364 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: kind of a framework for today's conversation. Mala, do you 365 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: want to say it? Yeah, So as we think about 366 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: how do we define fem tech and fem technology. So 367 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: this Twitter, this account is at greta low g r 368 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: e t t A l o u W and the 369 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: tweet reads technology is not the antithesis of craft. Tech 370 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: is just craft with electronic components. So basically your iPhone, 371 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: your computer, all the tech that we love and a 372 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: door is basically just arts and crafts with electronic components. 373 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, I mean it is because like 374 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: if you think about now, like with the with all 375 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: the added like effects that you can do to your photos, 376 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: or even just like on the apps, like on Instagram, 377 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: how you can have the gifts right, like reminiscent of 378 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: like MySpace, and you can have like all the extra 379 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: little like things you can put on your photos, like 380 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: the filters and the little emojis, and you can place 381 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: them all around your photos. Like that is arts and crafts. 382 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: You are collaging. It's like scrap booking, but on your phone. 383 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: It's like their stickers, stickers, They're definitely stickers. So it's 384 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: all arts and crafts. It's all found technology. Whether we 385 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: acknowledge it or not, we acknowledge it. We acknowledge it 386 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: because we're the ones that are women, especially women of color, 387 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: especially black women, are definitely running social media, you know, 388 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: like the photos that are taken, the like everything everything 389 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: that like social media, all of the imagery, the lifestyle 390 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: content like women of color, the makeup, women of color 391 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: running that. It's very very true. Like influencer culture. I 392 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: mean there are big name influencers who get like huge 393 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: contracts who are white people. I mean you've all probably 394 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: like seeing the like James Charles drama that's been going on, right, 395 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: But what I find so interesting is that when we 396 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 1: have these talks about like social media and its impact 397 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: on the youth, and like what it means to our generations, 398 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: like to have this inundated sort of like relationship with 399 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: social media. It's always about the negatives of social media 400 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: and the addiction and the this and that and how 401 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: we have no social connection. But I rarely hear the 402 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: like large critiques of social media. I rarely hear like 403 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: uplift of the women of color who use it to 404 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: start businesses, social movements launch like writing careers, modeling careers, 405 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: like airl now modeling for Savage by fenty Like this 406 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: bitch is on the Savage by fentye. Like she started 407 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: modeling while she was an undergrad at you see Santa Barbara, 408 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: Like she just started like posting modeling shots on her 409 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: own page and now she has like she signed with 410 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: Natural Beauty. She was like she was now on Savage 411 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: by Fancy, like all of that ship on Nike. Fore 412 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: it started on the ground. We started on the ground. 413 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: We started on the ground. So you know, okay, I'm 414 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: a teacher, right, And they had me watch this documentary 415 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: style film called like Right, and it's about like youth 416 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: and social media. The entire film, which struck me the 417 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: most is that the films like this, like analyzing social media, 418 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: everyone on screen is white. Of course, that people who 419 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: are analyzing, who are commenting, the youth that are talking 420 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: about their experiences with social media are all little white kids. 421 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: The professionals, the professors, the sociologists, the writers a journalists 422 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: are all white people. And it's all how the kids 423 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: are like so negatively affected and their self esteem and 424 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: their time. And I'm like, there's so much missing here 425 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: from this analysis, and you know what, And I think 426 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: a part of that is because white people don't have 427 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: to find community through social media and women, queer folks, 428 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: people of color, like, we very much have our niche 429 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: communities that live on social media because we're maybe we 430 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: don't live in like a Los Angeles right where we 431 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: have like POC events all the time, you know. They 432 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: we we are like building with people on social media, 433 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: so that that's definitely like a white person thing because 434 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: they see see themselves reflected in everything and everything. And 435 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: then are they necessarily in need need of the creative 436 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: outlets to start a business or to start their project 437 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: or launch their career. Families are their seed money. Their 438 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: family is their seed money. So where we're like trying 439 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: to be creative and use free platforms to get something 440 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: off the ground, They're like, oh no, like I had 441 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: that internship with so and so when I was nineteen, 442 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: Like I already had the connect I already had the 443 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: seed money built. What right for what my dad is 444 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: like the VP of something? Yeah, for example, what a himful? 445 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: We're not talking about anyone in particular, just you know, 446 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: we're not. You just never know, you never know anti 447 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 1: who um. Yeah. So when it comes to I think 448 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: this is also why we do what we do, Like, 449 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: let this archive correct and imbalanced history, because the history 450 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: about the Internet and about social media will be written. 451 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: There will be an official formal history, and it will 452 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: be all about how it was like brainwashing a generation 453 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: making everyone neurotic, like making everyone self a steam lowered, 454 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: or or like a generation of like snow flakes and 455 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: like very like hyper sensitive, hypercritical where not no one 456 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: can say anything anymore. Like That's that I think will 457 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: be of definitely a part of history. Yes, But will 458 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: the history include the acknowledgement of the artists and the 459 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: creatives and the business women For the most part, the 460 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: business people who have been women of color, predominantly queer 461 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: people of color, who have used the Internet for like 462 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: just just just social upheaval, like of the most positive sort. Right, 463 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: And if you think about like back in like when 464 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: you read history about like the sixties, the seventies, you know, 465 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: the civil rights movements, like everyone, there is always a 466 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: component of counter culture. And we're like living in the 467 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: counter counterculture right now, Like we are the counter culture. 468 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: Like we like when everyone is talking about social media 469 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: and the negatives, that here is the counterculture telling you 470 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: this is actually what's happening, and this is actually why 471 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: it's created something positive, you know, And there will be 472 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: a history and there will be all these like examples 473 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: of all the artists that did this, this and that. Yeah. 474 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: So that's I think part of the work that we 475 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: try to do when we talk about an audio archive, 476 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: it's archiving this aspect of it too, that this work 477 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: is being done in a particular space, right, It's it's 478 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: straddling the in real life community and the digital space, 479 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: and it's entrepreneurial and it's artistic, and it's social justice 480 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: and it's creative, like it's all these things and it's 481 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: really incredible. So like when we think about them technology. 482 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: We also contextualize the I G. Batty in the same way. Yes, 483 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: the I G. Batty is a tech startup. It's tech 484 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: startup like people that talk ship, well know, men that 485 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: talk shit about the I G. Batty with her cash 486 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: app and her Venmo and her PayPal and her bio 487 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: like haters. She's a tech startup start up. So I 488 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: don't see what the problem is, right, what is the 489 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: formal definition of a tech startup? Like, where is the 490 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: formal definition and what does it mean? Because we tend 491 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,479 Speaker 1: to think that it's all Silicon Valley. It's white guys. 492 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: It's like quirky, it's business oriented, it's utilizing technology, it's 493 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: utilizing an app. It's it's something different. Well, the women 494 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: of color that have like Instagram boutiques, that's a tech startup. 495 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: That's a tech startup. Shop latin x when Britt and 496 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Bree were here, they talked about shop latin X is 497 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: a tech startup. Yeah, we're a fucking tech startup. We're 498 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: a tech startup. What makes us not a tech startup 499 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: that we're not white men. That's what it is. That's 500 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: exactly what it is, because I mean use of technology hello, Right, 501 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: we do that check check I mean creative project, check events, 502 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: product like there's some type of sale, there's some type 503 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: of revenue going on. Check check, you know what I mean? Like, 504 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: so where is it? Not happy? It's so what is 505 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: the truth? What is the truth? What is the true? 506 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: I G Batties are tech startups? Where the I G 507 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: Batties were affirming ourselves in the digital space, and we 508 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: encourage all of are women of color? Are fems are 509 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: queer people of color who are doing projects online to 510 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: frame like you're thinking around yourself as a tech startup 511 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: and go after those tech dollars. Yes, we're going after 512 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: those tech dollars. We are because why not? You heard 513 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: it here first season four? Watch give it it's ours. Yes, 514 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, I mean. And then and then there's like 515 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: fem tech also in like the literal sense, like the 516 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: audio recording, the audio editing, the uploading of it, like 517 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: the podcast as actual fem technology, right because we're fems 518 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: doing it and it's technology. It's also you know a 519 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: part of art, but art is also technology. You know, 520 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: the craft is the technology. So I think that that's 521 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: definitely like another added layer to what we're doing. Is 522 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: the podcasting as fem technology. Yeah absolutely. I think to 523 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: like the tech startup doesn't have to be like a 524 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: gentrifying force, Like is that is that a prerequisite? Is 525 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: that a signifier of a tech startup? You have to 526 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: be a gentrifier or a hint a fire essentially, you know, 527 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: like we come and we visit Boil Heights and we 528 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: participate on a community level, like, but we don't really 529 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: have like events here. We like shout out Espasio and 530 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: come through and support local businesses and local families, um 531 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: having Boil Heights like artists residents can be on the show, 532 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, like we support events and show up to 533 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: events that our community lad but we're not like buying 534 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: a property, you know, we're not necessarily like having events 535 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: here and profiting renting out here. Yeah, definitely, you know 536 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. So we try and in the local community, 537 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: like stay in our lane. You know, could we do better? Probably, 538 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: I mean everyone can do that, can do better, But yeah, 539 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that, you know, we can 540 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: think about tech startups as broad in the Deaf and 541 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: Asian right brought in the definition, I think it's very 542 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: narrow right now. Yeah, I mean, and I think that 543 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: that's what we not only you and I, but just creators, 544 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: women of color. Creators are continuing to redefine how we 545 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: look at everything. You know, from hair and makeup being 546 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: a technology, which is what we've talked about, to the 547 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: audio being a tech startup, to your marketplace being a 548 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: tech startup. You know, all of it can be a 549 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: tech startup because of the world that we're living in 550 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: right now, because it's and we're continuing to just incorporate technology, 551 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: like actual technology, I mean, like the phones, the applications, 552 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: like that is the technology that is now being incorporated 553 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: into every part of our lives. The website that we 554 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: have to learn how to use and manipulate, right, yeah, 555 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: I mean even like reading analytics, reading analytics. But I 556 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: mean I was even going to use an example, like 557 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: even doctors and hospitals and clinics they have their own 558 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: apps now because they like get how important it is 559 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: for you to be able to like look at your 560 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, diagnosis on an application, to look at your 561 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: prescription and all of that on the application. You know, 562 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: We're only going to continue to see more of that. Yes, 563 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many ways that we can identify 564 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: fem technology in the world. This is kind of now 565 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: veering off, but not really right now as we record this, 566 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of of posts, tweets, threads, there's a 567 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: lot of online activity around abortion and the abortion bands 568 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: that are going on, like the attacks on reproductive choice 569 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: and reproductive rights like across the board, and even considering 570 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: abortion as being a very ancient fem technology that we 571 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: need to fight to preserve, like we have a right 572 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: to this technology. That it was women, it was child like, 573 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: it was people that he could give birth to children, 574 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: it was people with uteruses that came up with reproductive 575 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: resources and technology like abortion our technology absolutely because I mean, 576 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, we've had like dulas for centuries, right, and 577 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: it's abortion didn't just like come out of like the 578 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: sixties or whatever like movement, like the women's rights movement 579 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: like that definitely not is not where it came from. 580 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean from what I know, like it started as 581 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: like a yerba, like the mixture the mixture of like 582 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: different yervas that you could have a t you know, 583 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: so definitely ancient fem technology that we're continuing to fight 584 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: for and like thinking about like La Loba Loca and 585 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: like Loba talks about like how a lot of like 586 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: the medicinal practices actually come from brujas, right, And Loba 587 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: has this really great shirt and it says something along 588 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: the lines of like brujas are the reason that that 589 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: we're all alive today, or like budhas are the reason 590 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: that we're all in existent? Sure sure, sure, sure yeah. 591 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean there's so much like appropriated knowledge and appropriated 592 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: technology and information that just has been soaked up into 593 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 1: like the medical industrial complaint and everything else. I mean 594 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: even thinking about I was thinking about this the other day, 595 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: like the fucking fact that there are so many white 596 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: people that go hiking and backpacking. Right. You talked about 597 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: this like all these people in Washington State that when 598 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: I was backpacking up there, there were so many white 599 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: men by themselves, backpacking in the middle of nowhere by themselves, 600 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: and thinking about how like they have their little camp 601 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: stoves and they're sleeping bags made out of specific material, 602 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: And I'm like, how did the fund did you all 603 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: learn how to survive in this territory? Right? Like where 604 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 1: did this knowledge and technology come from? Oh? You fucking 605 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: stole it from Native people? Right? They colonized and murdered them. 606 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: They colonized and murdered them, then stole all their technology 607 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: as to how to survive this terrain because it's not 608 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: where you're from, right, it's wild. It's some wild ship, 609 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: so right. And then like and it's interesting because we 610 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: think of like white people as like like the hippies 611 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: are the ones that like go hiking and the yoga 612 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: and like all that ship would actually people have called 613 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: or like it was Columbus from people of color. Yes, 614 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: yoga as a type of technology, like all of it, 615 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: all of it, it's ours, well not yoga, but you 616 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But yeah, a lot of the 617 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: practices and rituals that people of color have created have 618 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: then been appropriated, and then it's almost like us getting 619 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: back into it like whatever that may be, Like obviously 620 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: like molasa yoga is not ours, but whether that be 621 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: some type of like wellness practice, like it's you kind 622 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: of have to like re teach yourself and relearn it. 623 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: And then you go and it's like everybody's white, like 624 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: it's some type of white space that you're walking into, 625 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: yet it was owned or created by people of color. 626 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: This also reminds me if any of you have done 627 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: like nonprofit work, this might be familiar to you. But 628 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: there's like an organization called the Center for Counsel and 629 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 1: they go and they teach council like to different schools 630 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: and nonprofits and corporations. And what council is is sitting 631 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: in a circle and having centerpieces and dedicating the conversation 632 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: to some or something and then using a talking piece 633 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: to talk about things, which is like a panic indigenous 634 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: like appropriation of like indigenous council practices and set up. 635 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: But they're white people who do it, and now it's 636 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: considered like a hippie dippy white people thing. And I'm 637 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: there and I'm like, this is some bullshits hell indigenous 638 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: right now? Like what the fun is going on? Right? Anyways? 639 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, found technology, Like fams, we've been creating technology, 640 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: and we will continue to be creating technology and just 641 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: trying to find it in all the places where it's 642 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: already happening, you know, like we don't have to look 643 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: that far outside of ourselves now, we really don't, um, 644 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: I see kind of like also in our notes right 645 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: thinking about aesthetics, thinking about aesthetics. Okay, so bear with me. 646 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: So We've talked about selfies, right, selfies as high art, 647 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: selfies as high art. So when I was in high school, 648 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 1: I went to the National Portrait Gallery and watching in 649 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: d C. So you know, they have like portraits of 650 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: like George Washington and John F. Kennedy, and that one 651 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: picture of pocahonis like in the British garb clearly very 652 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: like not her, just like sucked up. Right, very few 653 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: portraits of women of color unless it's in a very 654 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: political context, right, and like really very very few to 655 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: know self portraits of women of color. Right. So I 656 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: was looking up recently, like the National Portrait Gallery and 657 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: what they have going on there, and they have a 658 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: selfie exhibition. They don't call it them selfies, but it's 659 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: called Eye to Eye self Portraits from like nineteen hundred 660 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: to the present. So I'm looking and I'm like, Okay, 661 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 1: when I think of self portraits, I think of women 662 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: of color taking selfies because we just like have totally 663 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: revolutionized the selfie, the self portrait as in the form 664 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: of the selfie. And of course, like at the National 665 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: Portrait Gallery, which is a Smithsonian museum in d C, 666 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: the selfies, the self portraits from the last century up 667 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: until now and again like none by women of color, 668 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: nor no self portraits, no selfies, the erasure. So even 669 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: from the photos in the exhibit from now, are still 670 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: just white people, yes, I and a lot of men 671 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: and I because you can see, you know, what's on 672 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: display online. You can like look through the portraits and 673 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: the self portraits, and there are no women of color. 674 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: There's one selfie included, and it's a white woman who 675 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: who you know, it's like a self portrait, but it's 676 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: a selfie. So the selfie is there, but it's represented 677 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 1: by white women. And I do not identify white women 678 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: as being the vanguards of selfie. I really don't. Yeah, 679 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: just saying, damn, it's upsetting. I'm upset, right, Okay, So 680 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: we got to take back the selfies, is what I'm hearing. 681 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: We have to take back the selfie. Keep posting your selfie, 682 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: keep posting your selfies and whatever the hashtag is, like, 683 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, women of color selfies, My selfie is high art. 684 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know. One of my favorite hashtags 685 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: um is hashteg fums of Color Visibility, which was created 686 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: by the l A FMS of Color Collective and last 687 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: time I checked, which was a few months ago, it 688 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: had like twenty thousand posts, which I thought was amazing 689 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: because it's just all these different representations of fem identities. 690 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: Um So I think that that's definitely like, if you 691 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: are identify as fem like, that's definitely a hashtag to 692 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: check out, to use and to like also build and 693 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: connect with other fems online, fums of color online. Love it. 694 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: This has been a good conversation. Yes, girl heard a lot. Yeah, 695 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: we did. For us, there was more that we wanted 696 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: to talk about, but we were running out, were running 697 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: out of time. You know, next one we will. We 698 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: will to be continued. There's always more, Yes, there's always 699 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: more already look at what as well. Thank you for 700 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 1: tuning into another radio. We will catch you next time. Bess.