1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can't I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We're on every day 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: from one until four, and then after four o'clock John 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Cobelts show on demand on the iHeart app. That's the 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: podcast version. Anything that you missed, you can hear for 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: the first time or hear it all over again after 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: four it gets posted. Among the stories that are leaking 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: out now several weeks after the fires started, was and 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: because they're looking to see just how bad was the 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: response and how bad was the preparation by not only 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: Karen Bass and the city of la but also Gavin Newsom. 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: The public, however, they get their news. However you might 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: think the news was slanted, they got the message. Only 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: thirty percent of California citizens approve of Gavin Newsom's handling 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: of the fires, and only thirty seven percent and approve 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles of Karen Bass's work in managing 17 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: the fires. So most of the public realized that these 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: two really struck out. Although to strike out you have 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: to take a swing to begin with, and the Karen 20 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Bass was missing in action. She wasn't even there to 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: take the field One of the stories that popped out 22 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: about Newsom was that there was a and I had 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: never heard of this, there was a highly trained, all 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: volunteer team of certified firefighters that was created in twenty twenty. 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: It was called Team Blaze. It was an on call 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: strike force staffed entirely with certified firefighters of the California 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: State Guard. That's a volunteer militia force that reports to 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: Governor Newsom. I didn't know Newsom had his own militia 29 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: that reported to him and they were trained to be firefighters. 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: And then Newsom disbanded Team Blaze in January. We're with 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, a year ago before the Pals States fire. 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: We're going to talk now with Jay Coggan, former State 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: Guard commanding General, to talk about the disbanding and what 34 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: role they could have played in fighting this fire. Jay, 35 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: how are you hi. 36 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: John, how are you doing? 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. I never heard of this. This 38 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: was started during Newsom's administration five years ago. 39 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the State Guard has been around a long time. 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: In Second World War Two there were seventy three thousand numbers. 41 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: When the National Guard is away or busy, somebody has 42 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: to protect California, and that is it's State Guard, and 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: the State Guard has been around a long time. There 44 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: are volunteers. They don't get paid to train. They can 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 2: do get paid when they're out on the fire line 46 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: like anybody, but they're able to train all year round, weekend, 47 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: week out, month in, month out, whereas the National Guard, 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: with the exception of Team Task Force RAYL. Snake, is 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: trained for war fighting by the federal government. They're paid 50 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: with federal money to train to go to war, not 51 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: to protect California. And what ended up happening is there 52 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: was this policy decision to scale back and downsize the 53 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: State Guards capabilities. Now it's all hazard, it's not just firefighting. 54 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: We were cross training with the Coastguard to do water rescues, 55 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: tsunamis and flooding, which as you know, California's got four seasons. 56 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: We just saw a part of it. They got fire 57 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: that it burns it off, and you get drought and 58 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: then you get mudslides and it goes one after the other, 59 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: and so it was prepared to do it was everybody 60 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: in the State Guard that was operational was fully certified, 61 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: whether we're search and rescue, whether it's operating fire engines, 62 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: whether it was putting out fires, whether it's security forces. 63 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: Many are currently serving police officers and fire chiefs or 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: retired fire chiefs and retired military. It's a tremendous amazing 65 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: have you and. 66 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: You guys had been called out. You guys had been 67 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: called out for various disasters over the years. 68 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, many of us went out during the Dischi fire, 69 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: which was California's largest. Uh. And that was right after 70 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: it got started, and it was building itself up and 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: growing and training and getting certified nationally certified to CalFire standards. 72 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: And for some reason, uh, it was sent by the wayside. 73 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: And in fact, what it did get, interestingly enough, was 74 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: five fire engines, uh type six fire engines from cal 75 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: Office of Emergency Services a few years ago. Specifically, would 76 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: have been very valuable during the La fires. 77 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, because all our fire engines are 78 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: busted and in the shop. 79 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. And these were small enough to carry water and 80 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: personnel up the winding roads above the hills, and they're 81 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: all sitting fallow now. They were they were sent back 82 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 2: to the state. All the people that were trying to 83 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: operate them, Bye bye, they're gone. 84 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: And and it was a volunteer force, so the costs 85 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: were minimal to keep this, to keep this group in together. 86 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: So that's what a secondly cost the state nothing. In fact, 87 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: what happened is we formed a foundation of five oh 88 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: one c three charity run by some very very successful 89 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: people in California and raised one hundreds of thousands of dollars. 90 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: In fact, while these volunteers were training, the foundation had 91 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: to buy them lunch. The state wouldn't even do it. 92 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: In fact, the state, on their basis, charged them for 93 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: their lunches. Well wow for free? 94 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all the money we'd blow on so much 95 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: nonsense in this state, and they wouldn't buy you guys 96 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: a lunch. 97 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: No, And they were traveling on their own dime to 98 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: these facilities, to the military bases in California and wouldn't 99 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: get fed. Is that something? We had to buy them 100 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: their tools and their their masks. All the equipment was 101 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: bought by charities. And that foundation has now gone because 102 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: the decision was made we will accept no more money 103 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: from them. 104 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: And and what what what was the reason is this 105 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: Newsom's decision or is this some commission? Why did they 106 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: decide to disband you guys well, well, the. 107 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: State Guard itself is not disbanded, but but the regional Yeah, 108 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: I would say it's a policy decision from the new 109 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: commander of the of the Military Department himself, General Matt Beavers, 110 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: who decided that his primary mission was to support the 111 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: war fighting Federal missional Mission and National Garden. I guess 112 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: to be damned through California and Newsom appointed him. It's 113 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: a cabinet position and uh, my perception of Newsomb Seraly 114 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: must be aware of what his cabinet member must be doing, 115 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: and it's just the decision was made, We're not going 116 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: to do this. Well, there was no reason. It wasn't 117 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: costing him a penny, not a penny. 118 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: What kind of effect do you think you could have had, 119 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: especially in the in the. 120 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: Early kind of been out the door? First perfect example 121 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: is we have fully trained tach two hand crews already 122 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: ready to go during the day. The reason we set 123 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: it up was years ago. Cal Fire used to almost say, 124 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: why do we have to reinvent the wheel? Because every 125 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: year there's a fire that the regular National Guard troops 126 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: they're amazing, amazing men and women, but that's not their job. 127 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: They're not a job is not firefighting, and so they'd 128 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: be brought to Camp Roberts and they spent five days training. 129 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 2: So it knew some sense. I'm calling up the National Guard. 130 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: A large portion of the several hundred were five days 131 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: before they're even ready to go to fire. How many 132 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: houses were lost during those five days? How many lives 133 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: were put in jeopardy during this fight for those five days. So, 134 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what to tell you. It 135 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: just it makes no sense. I mean, if the governor 136 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: in the state ever took the time and took a 137 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: look at this, they could have an all hazards, all 138 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: volunteer firefighting, cyber protection team, flood response, any kind of response. 139 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: There's so many people in California that want to put 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: a uniform on be part of the military department. Many 141 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: of them are former service member, want to serve again. 142 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: Many of them are people that didn't get a chance 143 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: to serve while they're raising families and now get to 144 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: and they're in the State Guard, in the National Guard 145 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: part of the way and command Patrol, the governor are equal. 146 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: Why would not I'll. 147 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: Ask you something before I got to go for doing newscaster. 148 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: What do you think explains the negligence on the part 149 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: of Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom other officials. You see when 150 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: the firefighters and or you know, people like your particular groups, 151 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: when you're allowed to go out there, you do miraculous stuff, 152 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: incredibly courageous, incredibly hard working and effective. Why why were 153 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: they so reluctant to be prepared to pre deploy to 154 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: just manage things competently. What's gone wrong? 155 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: Well, one of the reasons, it's all about the benjamins. 156 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: There's some misallocation of resources, the determination to spend money 157 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: in areas active rather than protective. There's no reason why 158 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: we can't repurpose funds within California and treat it as 159 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: a way to stop a problem instead of spending more 160 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: money every time the problem ever starts. It's answering to 161 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: all the people that have all the needs, but they 162 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: never think about what's going to happen when the disaster strikes. 163 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: And that's common. It always happens, whether it's flooding, whether 164 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: it's fires, civil unrest, it doesn't matter. People don't think 165 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: about what they need in advance. It's just the problem 166 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: we have. 167 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: It's weird to me because they're always lecturing the public 168 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: to be prepared, to be ready for all the various disasters, 169 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: and then we look at the state and the state 170 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: is flat footed time and time again. 171 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great way of put it off on 172 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: the people. In other words, we're not going to protect 173 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 2: you. You got to take care of yourself, is what it 174 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: sounds like the way you put it. And I don't 175 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: disagree kind of. 176 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: No, I've thought that for a long time, is that 177 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: ultimately the government is not going to protect you, and 178 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: you are out there on your own and you've got 179 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: to do everything you can inside your own house with 180 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: your family to protect yourself or to escape because forget 181 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: about it. But this was a total breakdown, Oh tell total. 182 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: And I would hope that your listeners more and more 183 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: get in touch with their representatives and say, what's with 184 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: the State Guard? And why isn't it there? Why are 185 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: we spending money that we don't have to. Why don't 186 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: we take these very high qualified people. The trains are 187 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: free all year round, they're ready to go out the door, 188 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: like U shots, that's amazing. Do we do that? And 189 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: then why don't I join? I mean, you think what 190 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: would be with forty million people? You can get thousands 191 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: of very qual qualified people, but they don't even know 192 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 2: about it. The state does nothing to publicize the availability 193 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: of this organization to function. 194 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: All right, Jake, thanks for coming on with us. 195 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: No my pleasure. Thanks Jeth for having. 196 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Jake Coger with the State Guard. 197 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 198 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: six forty. 199 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: We just said, Jake, I had never heard of this 200 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: California State Guard, which apparently is a volunteer militia force. 201 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: And they within the militia force, they had a firefighting 202 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 1: group called Team Blaze, and they had equipment, they had 203 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: firefighters very well trained, and Newsome disbanded them a year ago, 204 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: and they could have been used and they could be 205 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: very helpful in the in the early hours and days 206 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: of the fire. And this is just another one of 207 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: these small decisions that people weren't aware of at the time, 208 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: and now the news leaks out little by little. I mean, 209 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: this story ended up came out in the Washington Free Beacon, 210 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: so hardly anybody in LA is aware of this story. 211 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: But you know what's so weird about this is that 212 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: they don't get paid unless they're fighting a fire or 213 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: they're dealing with a disaster. So it's not like they're 214 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: costing the state any money until there's a disaster, right, 215 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 4: So it's definitely not a financial thing. 216 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: No, I don't. This is just inexplicable. But there's so 217 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: many inexplicable decisions that added up to this disaster. And 218 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling this, the secondary disaster of this was the 219 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: response and the preparation from all levels of government. And 220 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: this State Guard being it's firefighting unit being disbanded is 221 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: just is just another example of it. And there's a 222 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: story it was in the La Daily News. It's just 223 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: I really feel for the people in Altadena and Palisades 224 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: because now they're looking at endless months and years of 225 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: going through the grind of dealing with the government, bureaucracy 226 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: and dealing with I just like, there's this long snake. 227 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: There was apparently long long string of cars along pch 228 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: snaking for two to three miles, and it was it 229 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: was residents of the Palisades inching their way into parking 230 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: lot number three in Santa Monica, where they had to 231 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: show ID to get them a permit so they could 232 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: drive into the burn zone. You had to spend hours 233 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: three miles that's the best they could do. 234 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand. 235 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 4: They've had plenty of time, plenty of time to figure 236 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: out a process that would make people happy, and it 237 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 4: wouldn't it wouldn't be this long. 238 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Why would you arrange it? And I don't know who's 239 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: in charge of this, why would you arrange it that 240 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: there's only one place to get the permit so they 241 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: you'd have a three mile line. 242 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing we were told, right that we're 243 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: going to cut down on the red tape. There's going 244 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 4: to be very little red tape. We're going to make 245 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 4: the process as easy as possible. 246 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 5: But this isn't easy. 247 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, couldn't you go to something like the Dodger 248 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Stadium parking lot? Remember during COVID. 249 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 5: Yes, with the vaccine, with the vaccine. 250 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: And they used a whole parking lot in order to 251 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: facilitate as many people as possible. And that's when they 252 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: were trying to vaccinate the whole county. 253 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 4: Right, or have a few different places, numerous places to 254 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 4: be able to do this. 255 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you pick one? Maybe they had another 256 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: parking lot, but this one ended up with a three 257 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: mile traffic jam. Why is it diplomat. Why is it 258 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: that these bureaucrats do everything badly, consistently badly, and everything 259 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: is a torture. Haven't these people gone through enough? And 260 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: it's only three weeks in. 261 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 5: Well, that's the thing. 262 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: I would think that when you have a crisis like this, 263 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: you know what you give in. 264 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 5: You have to be. 265 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 4: Able to be flexible, and you have to be able 266 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: to change things. And maybe everything isn't exactly how you 267 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the bureaucrats how you wanted to go. 268 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 4: But I mean, at a time like this, let the 269 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: people go back to their homes or what was their 270 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: home and let them see it. And enough with the 271 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: waiting and the these long lines. 272 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 5: I mean, you're right, these people have gone through enough. 273 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: And then they talk about some of the people who 274 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: they were dressed up dress up head to toe and 275 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: protective gear, you know, have suits, and they go through 276 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: the sad rubble of their home. They looked at the 277 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: Kadeshian family. The mother is Kim Kadeshian. 278 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: Not Kim Kardashian. 279 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: No, this is the Kadeshians. They have less money and 280 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: and mom and grandma and one of the kids, Paul, 281 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: he's taking an entire quarter off from college to deal 282 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: with the fire, and he said, I thought we were 283 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna have to be like gold miners with a pan 284 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: sifting through the ash. The home wasn't completely destroyed, but 285 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: there weren't many items left, and he you know, they 286 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: just grabbed a some silverware, melted down jewelry, a couple 287 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: of antis, partially melted typewriters. Yeah, so sad, it's you know, 288 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: And he said, after a while he goes the things 289 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: and stuff I was hoping survived. I'm kind of hoping 290 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: now that they didn't because they would be unsalvageable. Like 291 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to see things melted down and ruined. 292 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: He'd rather have just be gone. 293 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: How many people, I'm very curious or a percentage of 294 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: people are going to decide, you know what, screw this. 295 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 4: We're not going to wait eighteen months to. 296 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 5: Have the debris removed. We're just going to move somewhere else. 297 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: That's another thing I read. It is going to be 298 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: eighteen months. Yeah, the EPA said, because because when when 299 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: when Trump was saying, hey, it's going to be eighteen months, 300 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm told bast was saying, no, no, it's not going 301 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: to be eighteen eighteen. 302 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 5: Months, and then how long is it going to be? 303 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: She was lying there. She was lying there because it 304 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: was federal employees were telling the residents that it's going 305 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: to be eighteen months to the cleanup, and she just 306 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: outright lied. I know that that should be streamlined. We 307 00:16:59,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: got to take a break. 308 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am 309 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: six forty. 310 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: We're on from one in some four and after four o'clock. 311 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: Whatever you missed John Cobelt' show on demand on the 312 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: iHeart app. We've been discussing the fire, and boy, you 313 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: people in the Palisades, if you're listening, I know what 314 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: one of your worst fears is that they're going to 315 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: force affordable housing into the Palisades. And you may see 316 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: officials saying no, no, no, that's not going to happen. Well, 317 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: there's pressure coming from these idiot housing advocates to do 318 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: exactly that. Gavin Newsom had signed a bill, Senate Bill 319 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: three thirty and it requires affordable housing. There's a second 320 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: bill called the Density Bonus Law, which encourages developers to 321 00:17:55,119 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: build new units of affordable house apartment buildings. And the 322 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: whole plan was to force cheap housing into wealthy areas 323 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: in the name of equity. 324 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: You know, I can't afford to live in the Palisades, 325 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 4: and my dream was always to live in Malibu, not 326 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: that I'd want to live there now, but you can't 327 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 4: afford it, So therefore I live in the San Fernando Valley. 328 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 5: That's just the way it is. 329 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: You would have been out of Balibu by now. 330 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 5: It's no longer my dream. Yes, I'm sad to say 331 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 5: my wife. 332 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: Had that dream too. The dream has been revised, I know. 333 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: See this one I don't understand is like, why is 334 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: it so hard? This is progressive lunatics again. Why is 335 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: it so hard to accept that there are things in 336 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: life you're never going to have because you're never going 337 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: to make enough money. We all have that. Even billionaires 338 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: are jealous of one another. 339 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 5: Well, there's always somebody that's going to make more money 340 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 5: than somebody. 341 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: I have read that. The wealthy guys who have the 342 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: Gulf Stream private jets. Yeah, they get headitive over who's 343 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: got the biggest jet or the most modern jet, and 344 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: sometimes a guy taps out at the mid size jet 345 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: and then they run into somebody who's got the super jet. 346 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 5: Can you imagine having that problem. 347 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I want. I want to feel insecure 348 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: because my private jet is smaller. 349 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 5: My jet is smaller than your jet. 350 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: But it's that's the way it is. There is no way. 351 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if there's maybe an 352 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Arab oil baron who has more money than Elon Musk's. 353 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if Musk is absolutely the 354 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: richest person in the world. Who cares? I know, but people, 355 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: it makes me crazy. And it's these progressives who are 356 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: constantly babbling about equity. There's no reason to stick poor 357 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: people in the palisades. 358 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: You need just to build the palisades the way the palisades. 359 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 5: I mean, that's just right. 360 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: I mean, the people that lost their homes, let them rebuild, 361 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 4: have the shopping center and the restaurants, and just keep 362 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: everything the same. 363 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: It's wrong to do this, and La County officials want 364 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:18,479 Speaker 1: to waive state housing laws, and there is blowback because 365 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: Amy Bodek is the head of the county Planning Department, 366 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: and she said she thinks state laws could end up 367 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: hampering the recovery because homeowners want to rebuild what they had, 368 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: and these laws incentivize developers to create density, which is 369 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: a code word for apartment buildings and affordable apartment buildings, 370 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: which is that's not the way the people in the 371 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: Palace Sades want to live. I'm going to be blunt here. 372 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: When you make some money, you want to live with 373 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: your own kind and you don't want to live with 374 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: people of different classes. You just don't. And that's just 375 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: a universal human truth. 376 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: But it's also again the people that live in the 377 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: Palisades no fault of their own. They lose their homes, 378 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 4: they lose their community. They want to rebuild, and they 379 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 4: want it back the same They loved living in the Palisades, 380 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: and I'm sure many of them want it back. 381 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: There's a actually, shouldn't be an opportunity to change that. 382 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 5: They shouldn't. 383 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: They had this meeting and at the meeting, housing advocates 384 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: contended that the county's waiver would slash too many restrictions 385 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: bypassing laws. The laws are supposed to solve the affordable 386 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: housing crisis. You're not going to solve the affordable housing 387 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: crisis by taking a burned out fire area and forcing 388 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: people to build apartment buildings. What everyone wants to live 389 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: in a single family home neighborhood, and that happened. 390 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:51,959 Speaker 5: But John, what happened. 391 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: If there wasn't the fire right, you weren't going to 392 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: You weren't going to have affordable housing in the Palisades. 393 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: It's only because of a tragedy that you're trying to change. 394 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: Yes, they're trying to take advantage of it. Oh, they're 395 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: very excited, which is what was predicted. Nolan Gray is 396 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: senior director of legislation and Research for some whack job 397 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: group called California Yimby. You've heard of Nimby. No in 398 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: my backyard. This is yes in my backyard, but it's 399 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: yes in somebody else's backyard, not Nolan Gray's backyard. Well, 400 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: this is just going in the wrong direction. There's so 401 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: much in here that has nothing to do with helping 402 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: people rebuild. He is for he's for these laws that 403 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: are going to construct thousands of affordable units. All those 404 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: people should move to another state, go to another city, 405 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: another state. California is not the place for you if 406 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: you can't earn enough to live here. 407 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: But also the people that want to move back, they 408 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 4: want to rebuild in the Palisades. This is going to 409 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: make them not And then they have to figure out 410 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 4: places to go. 411 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 5: So it's penal it's just not fair. 412 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: He says. If the Oh, here's another law professor at 413 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: UC Davis, Chris Elmendorf. He says, if the goal is 414 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: to get people back in their communities as fast as possible, 415 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't the goal be to build as much housing in 416 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: these communities as fast as possible. No, because the people 417 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: in these communities don't want to live in apartments, and 418 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: they don't want to live in affordable housing. 419 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 5: Apartments well, because they don't need to see. 420 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: Affordable housing is a fancy word, you know, to give 421 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: give homes to poor people, and then you have all 422 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: kinds of class problems. You have people live vastly different 423 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: lifestyles that don't mix well together. 424 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm saying. 425 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 4: So there's not going to be an incentive for people 426 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 4: in the people who lived in the Palisades to want 427 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 4: to rebuild there. 428 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's not you know. 429 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: Which is what these housing active advocates want. 430 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 5: But then it's not fair to those people because where 431 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 5: are they going to go. 432 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: They don't care about fair, they're looking for equity. They 433 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: want just as many poor people to live in a 434 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: place like the Palisades as wealthy people. They don't think 435 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: wealthy people should have a lock on beautiful views. 436 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: But again, I can't afford to have that beautiful view. 437 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: And you know, maybe I did something wrong in my life. 438 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, but we could go through that one. 439 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: That's true, but you know I can't, and I've. 440 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: Accepted to just accept that. Everybody. I don't know people 441 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: like this. It's only these progressive advocates who talk like this, 442 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: the idea that you're not supposed to accept the limitations 443 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 1: of your abilities, of your accomplishments, of your talents. It's just, 444 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, we're not all created a week. Well, we're 445 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: not all the talents in the world are distributed equitably. 446 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. Not all of us 447 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: have the same look. I grew up in lower middle class. 448 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: My parents had no money. My dad made eleven thousand 449 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: dollars a year. You know, I've worked in incredibly hard 450 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: for decades, and I got some activists. Adiot who wants 451 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: to put up an apartment complex across It's not fair. 452 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 5: It isn't fair. That's not being equitable. 453 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: It's like a penalty. It's like you're a penalty for 454 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: being success tesful. What a weird, sick, psycho culture we have. 455 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: And I saw this and it just made me crazy 456 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: because I know the people in Palisades are afraid of this, 457 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: because Newsom and these bullies in the California Legislator had 458 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: written these series of laws, and are they are salivating thinking, Wow, 459 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: this is a great chance to make the Palisades equitable. 460 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 5: That's taking advantage of a terrible situation. 461 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 1: It is more coming up. 462 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM six. 463 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Forty Conway, coming up in a few minutes. One of 464 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: the other big foul ups was in La County. The 465 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: emergency notification system over this a couple of times, right, 466 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: fake phony, false notifications claiming you have to evacuate, And 467 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: that happened several times. That happened like about half a 468 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: dozen times, I think. 469 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 4: Well, the biggest one was that West Hills fire that 470 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 4: broke out and it was only for people in the 471 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 4: West Hills area, and then I don't know how many people, like. 472 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: The whole county was tall to where are we all 473 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: going to go? 474 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 475 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: Well, the Alley County Board of Supervisor's emotion to have 476 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: an independent review of this system. Who was supervising this 477 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: all these years leading up to that moment. They're going 478 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: to do a review now and an investigation now of 479 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: all the screw ups, you know, the not being prepared 480 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: for the fire in the Palisades. 481 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: Right, Well, we haven't heard from that person, no. 482 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: I but. 483 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: These people work on this stuff for years and years, 484 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: and then they assure us that everything's in place, and 485 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: if something happens, you'll see how it works. 486 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: Well, do they ever do dry runs? You know where 487 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 4: it's not going to go? I mean, seriously, how do 488 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 4: they How do they check these things? 489 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember ever getting an evacuation 490 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: test order, but. 491 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: I think I think we Well, but then that would 492 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: scare people, and you can't do that now because everybody'd. 493 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 5: Be freaked out. 494 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a system, you got it, you got 495 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: to tell I know, you have. 496 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 5: To figure out a way to test it. 497 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, and the story goes through the 498 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: whole list, but we've lived through the whole list. Uh, 499 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: Conway has arrived. How are you hey? 500 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 2: Now? 501 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 6: Hey, now you guys sound great. It's the new John 502 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 6: and Ken. 503 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 5: I'm just visiting today having fun, is that right? Yeah? 504 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 505 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 5: He he loved. 506 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: Having me Tim, he did really right, John Oh, I 507 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: asked for it. 508 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: What what's going on? Is that right? Yeah? You with 509 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: a blooper show, you have you have partners every two days, 510 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: that's right, all kinds of people wandering and off the street. 511 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 6: I have partner. I have partners every day. Some on 512 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 6: the air too. Yeah, right, all right. Alex Stone is 513 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 6: coming on with us. I love that guy. 514 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Patrick O'Neill. 515 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 6: He does the King's Game and he his uh he 516 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 6: had a house in Malibu that is still on fire, 517 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 6: like a couple of days ago, I mean right on 518 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 6: the beach there. And so we'll we'll chat with him. Also, 519 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 6: doctor Ray kas Sherry's coming on with us. That guy's great. 520 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 6: He'll talk about the air quality and all the crazy's 521 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 6: going on. And then Tula Sharp, who's with the mo 522 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 6: Kelly show. He's doing I'm involved with some kind of 523 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 6: charity event. Will give them a little love. And then 524 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 6: Trump is in the news. 525 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: How about that is he? Yeah? He is? That's right, 526 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: all right. I guess the head of the FDA. 527 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 6: I was told to get out and she said, I'm 528 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 6: not going, and they said, is. 529 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: That right you are? Yeah, there's no upside to say 530 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: no right now. They escorted her out seriously. 531 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, that's starting up crap in a box. 532 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: Conway's next. Dey. Thank you, thank you for having me 533 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: and Carzier live in the twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, 534 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You 535 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: can always hear the show live on KFI AM six 536 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 537 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.