Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. It's curious if they're allowed
Speaker 1: to make fun of JJ Watt's clothing line. Now, oh boy,
Speaker 1: too soon, Now I'm afraid from the Chris Westling podcast studio,
Speaker 1: it's around the NFL. I am Dan hanssh That one's
Speaker 1: from the archive. Cost us a trip to London, two story, Um,
Speaker 1: Dan hands us here Greg Rosenthal and it's that laugh
Speaker 1: the great Patrick Claibon back in the studio with us,
Speaker 1: Buddy and back uh in this studio, but in this
Speaker 1: building since three am. So we respect you and I
Speaker 1: am thankful. Well, no, I finally I would I could have.
Speaker 1: I would have come into here on an off day.
Speaker 1: I would have come into and off day. And you've
Speaker 1: done any time with you guys, I have and I
Speaker 1: will again. One of the great, one of the great
Speaker 1: satellite heroes. Patrick Claibon. Well, you have this great crew. Um.
Speaker 1: I love the off season. I love how we were
Speaker 1: able to do it with the Friday show this year
Speaker 1: with Patrick involved and I and and this it's it's notable,
Speaker 1: Greggy that so much change around us through the years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have this nice core. It makes me comfortable personally.
Speaker 1: I like it. I do think about that, because there's
Speaker 1: been a lot of turnover at this company, right, but
Speaker 1: you would, you would look around us. The people were
Speaker 1: closest too for the most part. Pat you know, we've
Speaker 1: all been we've been here a while now ten years.
Speaker 1: It's a testament to you guys. Ten plus for twelve.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, Yeah, a lot going on, well
Speaker 1: actually not a ton going on right now from when
Speaker 1: we last um spoke with you on Tuesday. But we'll
Speaker 1: get caught up on the news and we'll do some
Speaker 1: We're gonna throw out some trades because Greg, the trades
Speaker 1: tsunami could be ready to crash. I think it's coming.
Speaker 1: Not enough good free agents, so I think you can
Speaker 1: get some good players via trade, right, and we're having
Speaker 1: it with some urgency. We're doing it on today's show
Speaker 1: because it could happen now. There could be an announcement
Speaker 1: now during the show of a trade all through next week.
Speaker 1: Speaking next week, we're gonna have some good stuff. We
Speaker 1: have Greggy's top one on one free agents. Bang. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go around the AFC and around the NFC. Bang. Bang.
Speaker 1: That's a big week. Is that combine week? We have
Speaker 1: the Combine I think we were doing around AFC NFC
Speaker 1: the following week. Yeah, it's all coming up. That's fine,
Speaker 1: close enough. Before we get into the news. Hey, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Dom dom Capers. Let's just start here.
Speaker 1: That's what everyone's talking about. It kind of is yesterday.
Speaker 1: Dom Caper was Dom Capers, who was the first head
Speaker 1: coach ever of the Carolina Panthers when they joined the
Speaker 1: NFL in nineteen ninety five. I believe he was introduced
Speaker 1: as the senior defensive assistant, where he will be working
Speaker 1: scouting opponents and doing works work behind the scenes with
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator A giro Evarro. Evera, we talked about this
Speaker 1: seven minutes. There's so many different pronunciation GUIDs. It meant
Speaker 1: so much to me to stick the landing on that one,
Speaker 1: and I blew it. I'll trust Greg, all right, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm just reading off the two thousand and seventeen through
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty RAMS pronunciation guide And I just
Speaker 1: want to say I have a take on the press
Speaker 1: conference for Dom. He's seventy two years old. He has
Speaker 1: a certain follical strategy that he's using that would that
Speaker 1: invited UM a lot of let's say criticism or bits
Speaker 1: people had bits on twitterers, snickers h and I just
Speaker 1: want to say, listen, Dom, hey man, it's his life.
Speaker 1: He's taken the strategy uh with it's kind of a
Speaker 1: Lego esque Look, I'm not judging him for it. He
Speaker 1: could do whatever he wants. He's seventy two, He's had
Speaker 1: a great life. I have more of a take with
Speaker 1: because when they bring out Dom the Panthers to speak
Speaker 1: with the media, it's kind of a it's a cool
Speaker 1: thing for the organization because there is this full circle
Speaker 1: nature to it, and he's this guy that obviously has
Speaker 1: connections with the city and the media and obviously the team.
Speaker 1: And yet when he does his press conference and speaking
Speaker 1: from the heart about his career and where it is
Speaker 1: and where it is now, nobody's talking about that. Everybody's
Speaker 1: talking about his hair. And it did make me think
Speaker 1: about as another example, Ben McAdoo. Remember when he got
Speaker 1: the Giant's job and he lost a bunch of weight
Speaker 1: before he got the job, probably as part of to
Speaker 1: look good to get a job. But he didn't have
Speaker 1: a new suit, so he had the oversized David Byrne
Speaker 1: talking head suit that he wore at the press conference,
Speaker 1: and it kind of made him a bit of a
Speaker 1: laughing stock after that. My take on this is, this
Speaker 1: is a big business. These are billion dollars franchises. Let's
Speaker 1: get a stylist involved. Let's protect these guys a little
Speaker 1: bit because they're football coaches, you know, and especially the
Speaker 1: senior ones. Let's for Dom as an example. Let's put
Speaker 1: a hat on Dom and be like, Tom, we're gonna
Speaker 1: work with you on this, and we're gonna get this
Speaker 1: in a different place by the time we're doing pressors
Speaker 1: at OTA's just work with us and let us take
Speaker 1: care of this, because otherwise you're gonna have people talking
Speaker 1: about you in a way you don't want them to
Speaker 1: talk about you. Same thing with Macdo you're in the
Speaker 1: New York Giants, you're a Tiffany franchise. Somebody's got to
Speaker 1: see what the suit looks like, and somebody's got to
Speaker 1: give him a tailored suit. He represents the franchise. That's
Speaker 1: my take. It's it's an interesting take. Thank you, Hi.
Speaker 1: You guys know me, I'm pretty anti fashion. My number
Speaker 1: one fashion take is it doesn't matter, Oh do you
Speaker 1: have a nice cable? You know, it's a little annoyed
Speaker 1: because you're such a tremendously handsome fellow that you could
Speaker 1: put on anything and you look good. Some of us
Speaker 1: have to work a lot harder just to look decent.
Speaker 1: But I just want to say there's some subtexts argument
Speaker 1: by Dan, but ultimately, as you said at the start,
Speaker 1: Don should wear whatever he wants. He can take whatever
Speaker 1: follicle strategy. I'm the line is very crispy and we
Speaker 1: should all aspire to that. Okay, I can't get there anymore,
Speaker 1: but but Dom is right there. We've been mcadoo's suits.
Speaker 1: If people maybe would have trusted that he made through
Speaker 1: the right decision, as Greg Rosenthal said at the time,
Speaker 1: by putting Eli on the bench and putting in if
Speaker 1: if changing suits would have made people respect that decision more,
Speaker 1: then net problem is on the people. It's not on
Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo should wear whatever he wants. Don could have
Speaker 1: his hair or however wants. None of it actually matters.
Speaker 1: It's all just vibes. We should evaluate people on what
Speaker 1: they do. So Don has been wearing that hair style
Speaker 1: for a long time, as long as I've seen him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called it. I call it horizontal and tight, right,
Speaker 1: it looks it looks like it's lined up essentially. But
Speaker 1: I covered the Packers during the twenty ten Super Bowl
Speaker 1: against the Steelers. It was like on the beat where
Speaker 1: I was covering them each day that week, and I
Speaker 1: made it my business to get as close as I
Speaker 1: could to his hair. Sure, many times you want to
Speaker 1: smell it, just to like see what was going on,
Speaker 1: And it all looked very like. I didn't see any Uh,
Speaker 1: you think it was natural. You're saying I don't think
Speaker 1: it was because it makes no sense, But you weren't
Speaker 1: seeing any thing that would indicate that it wasn't like
Speaker 1: it looked better is what I was really wanted to
Speaker 1: get to and more lifelike in person, like a few
Speaker 1: inches away from it. So maybe his wife likes it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just and so if people are curious because I
Speaker 1: know I talk about my hair, other people talk about
Speaker 1: my hair, um that if I was the stylist, it's true,
Speaker 1: the follicle stylist of the Carolina Panthers. When you saw
Speaker 1: Dom Capers at OTA's, he looked like freaking Elvis the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight Comeback special. It would be people would
Speaker 1: be talking about him in a totally different way. So
Speaker 1: give him a chance to be a hero in that sense.
Speaker 1: What a staff though that Frank Cranks put together. When
Speaker 1: I was mentioned all those wild names last show, I
Speaker 1: didn't even mention old old m seventy two years young.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news. I don't know what you mean,
Speaker 1: but it's Zaddi. Yeah, I don't know what. Nobody's underdog.
Speaker 1: That's my man's right there, CD Lamb on around the
Speaker 1: NFL Live from the Super Bowl. Uh, a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks back. Now he might come up a little bit
Speaker 1: later in conversation. Um, but starting now, let's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: check in with our producer Justin Graver, who was trapped
Speaker 1: behind a parking gate earlier this morning and he had
Speaker 1: still found a way to get here on time for
Speaker 1: the taping. Um, your Tennessee Titans. Obviously they made that
Speaker 1: runs few years, got close to the Bowl, never quite
Speaker 1: made it, and now it's time to let's see reload, rebuild, retool.
Speaker 1: The Titans released Robert Woods, one and done wide receiver.
Speaker 1: He was disappointing with them this past season, although issues
Speaker 1: a quarterback an offensive line certainly didn't help anyone on
Speaker 1: that offense. Taylor Luan who was a mainstay on that
Speaker 1: offensive line for years, and it appears he has headed
Speaker 1: potentially toward retirement. Zack Cunningham and even Big Bone Randy
Speaker 1: Bullock their kicker, all released as the Titans transition into
Speaker 1: a new phase of the organization. Still unclear what's going
Speaker 1: to happen with Ryan Tannehill, also Derrick Henry, who I
Speaker 1: whope maybe comes up later in this episode. Your thoughts,
Speaker 1: justin Graver. Titans were like twenty three twenty five million
Speaker 1: dollars over the cap something like that before these moves,
Speaker 1: and now they're about four million dollars under the cap.
Speaker 1: So I think most Titans fans who have been following
Speaker 1: along knew these cuts were coming. A lot of people
Speaker 1: still waiting to find out if Bud Dupree will be released.
Speaker 1: There was also reports that Zach Cunningham was released the linebackers,
Speaker 1: so I mentioned, Oh yes, that's all good. Sorry, Sorry
Speaker 1: you were stuck behind a cage for hours. That was
Speaker 1: really fun trying to leave my apartment this morning and
Speaker 1: the garage gate doesn't open anyway. So yeah, these moves
Speaker 1: kind of they were like Titans fans expected them, but
Speaker 1: still creates a whole left tackle you had to back
Speaker 1: up playing there all last season. Who's also going to
Speaker 1: be a free agent and wide receiver one of the
Speaker 1: weaker groups in the league, probably looking to draft somebody there.
Speaker 1: Don't trade for a thirty year old wide receivers coming
Speaker 1: off major injuries. NFL teams, I think that would be
Speaker 1: the Titans have done it two years in a row,
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and Robert Woods, and it didn't really work out.
Speaker 1: The Woods was a trade. I sort of forgot that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he like requested apparently Tennessee was what if they
Speaker 1: give up for him? I think it was a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick, not bad, but then he tweeted immediately free
Speaker 1: yesterday and apparently there's like reports that he and Mike
Speaker 1: Vrabel kind of clashed. So I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make of. That's a tough season, Yeah, Tennessee, you can
Speaker 1: make the case they had a whole at left tackle
Speaker 1: when Luan was there as well well. He was struggling
Speaker 1: and injured. That contract they gave him ended up being
Speaker 1: a little bit of a disaster just because he got
Speaker 1: hurt so much. I don't know whether I should put
Speaker 1: him on the top one to one maybe at the
Speaker 1: very end. I don't know. He hasn't been able to
Speaker 1: stay on the field, but Ran Carthon has a lot
Speaker 1: to do. Their new their new GM. This is a
Speaker 1: rebuilding team, even though they have the same head coach,
Speaker 1: like they are starting from scratch, almost as much as
Speaker 1: any team in the league. I wonder if one, oh,
Speaker 1: don't oh, that's if you show anyone, they will take
Speaker 1: a finger comes out a picture. Um. Yeah, Luan's only
Speaker 1: thirty one. UM. He has a peed suspension on his ledger. Um.
Speaker 1: He tore his ACL in Week five of twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: suffered another season ending n the injuries, you know, just
Speaker 1: two games into this past season. So he's played only
Speaker 1: twenty games UM in the past three years. I did
Speaker 1: read somewhere that retirement was a real possibility for him.
Speaker 1: Has a successful podcast. He said on his podcast this
Speaker 1: week that his knee is still not right, that he
Speaker 1: still said he needs to get the juice in his knee,
Speaker 1: and he also said that he would rather retire than
Speaker 1: go to a AFC South team that's not the Titans. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've got some breaking news coming up here. The juice
Speaker 1: in or out of his knee right. Based on this situation, Graver,
Speaker 1: hit it, hit it. Oh, this could be a great
Speaker 1: synchronization based on those juice comments that Justin Graver just
Speaker 1: gave me. I am now removing Taylor law from the
Speaker 1: top one on one. Patrick can see me doing it.
Speaker 1: He technically was at one on four, but he would
Speaker 1: have gotten in there eventually. That is if horrendous use
Speaker 1: of the breaking news drop. This is I just wanted
Speaker 1: to let people if you can't be responsible with the drop, Greggy,
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna about to say that, like
Speaker 1: Ian was reporting, there's retiring. I mean, sometimes you gotta,
Speaker 1: you know, I use the drop as a comedic element.
Speaker 1: I will make the case that Greg making the announcement
Speaker 1: about Taylor Lawan's not placement on the one on one
Speaker 1: is more important news than his retirement. Okay, wow, I
Speaker 1: just s I heard that the juice when he needed
Speaker 1: the bore juice that you gotta get off the list
Speaker 1: does have a PD suspension, So maybe the juice is
Speaker 1: maybe the juice needs to be loose, all right, I
Speaker 1: think that the breaking news drop is sacred personally, but
Speaker 1: agree to disagree on that one. In other news and
Speaker 1: Big Bone Randy times, they are changing titans EATA kicker.
Speaker 1: The Broncos bring back Vance Joseph after a series of
Speaker 1: interviews helmed by Sean Payton, the new head coach in Denver.
Speaker 1: He goes with Vance Joseph, who has obvious history with
Speaker 1: the never Broncos. He was once their head coach and
Speaker 1: now he's back in the DC position. Other notable names
Speaker 1: Patrick viewed for the job, including Rex Ryan, who's probably
Speaker 1: a little bit annoyed Rex as someone who followed Rex
Speaker 1: very closely. Obviously, he went from you know, top of
Speaker 1: the world head coach to now he can't even land
Speaker 1: a DC job. So I guess back to ESPN with him,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll get back on the campaign trail. He had
Speaker 1: a lot of success with wait Kit before we moved
Speaker 1: from Rex. Can I make one little point when these
Speaker 1: reports come out whenever Rex kind of does anything that
Speaker 1: he's like a really strong candidate in Denver and this
Speaker 1: that and the does he think like being such a
Speaker 1: media funnel as helping him? I don't think it's helping him.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's not why Sean Payton didn't hire him. But
Speaker 1: anytime Rex Ryan gets any little interest from the NFL,
Speaker 1: there's like four different reporters that's like, looks like Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan is getting this job, and it's like that almost
Speaker 1: immediately lets the coach know, like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be kind of a headache. Having Rex Ryan is the
Speaker 1: never a lot of sense to me, Like it didn't
Speaker 1: feel like Sean Payton and Rex Ryan for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: felt like a good match. And I also thought, like
Speaker 1: worked under it. Yeah, maybe it's for a while. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was a favorite to Rob that maybe that was
Speaker 1: a um but Rex. I also thought Rex would never
Speaker 1: go back um on the sideline if he wasn't a
Speaker 1: head coach, and he's probably not going to ever get
Speaker 1: a head coach job again. So it surprise me that
Speaker 1: he was even doing that and didn't work out. But
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph is there in that position justin. Graver listens
Speaker 1: to our shows so closely that he was upset that Mark,
Speaker 1: our good friend right out this week, was not here
Speaker 1: so that Mark could capitalize on a long standing take
Speaker 1: that they should bring Vance Joseph back as a defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: a take that Dan and I had no recollection of
Speaker 1: a longstanding That's what Graver said that he had been
Speaker 1: saying that all season, said it a few times. I
Speaker 1: hope I am remembering that correctly, because now I'm a
Speaker 1: good job by you. I wouldn't trust these you definitely
Speaker 1: listen to That's how we have so many shows, so
Speaker 1: many takes. Uh, justin. I hope you're right on that one,
Speaker 1: because the listeners really having the time of my life.
Speaker 1: The listeners will hold you to it. Uh. Let's see
Speaker 1: how much they've changed in Denver by the way, Like
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, that's weird. He's going back
Speaker 1: to the place he was just fired. But there's a
Speaker 1: different owner, a different head coach. Nothing is the same.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has left his Darkness Retreat. I'm about that.
Speaker 1: Scott Burman, who owns Skycave Retreats, said Rogers left the
Speaker 1: dark room and the facility on Wednesday. Rogers, of course,
Speaker 1: is at the center of the offseason scuttle butt. He
Speaker 1: is under contract with the Packers for nearly sixty million
Speaker 1: guaranteed if he plays in twenty twenty three, but there
Speaker 1: is a lot of speculation that perhaps his time with
Speaker 1: Green Bays over even if he continues to play football.
Speaker 1: We shall see. Um. I thought, I don't know why
Speaker 1: I when I saw this update first it's funny that
Speaker 1: reporters are calling around to different darkness retreats they find
Speaker 1: the one Aaron Rodgers is out and good reporting by
Speaker 1: the people involved. Um. But also I was a little
Speaker 1: bit I thought that Aaron Rodgers would be more organic
Speaker 1: than that. I thought he would find his own cave
Speaker 1: and be in the darkness in a very pure, non
Speaker 1: commercial way. So the fact that he went to sky
Speaker 1: Cave Retreats, that just that makes me think maybe I
Speaker 1: want Derek Carr on the jets instead. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: I think that's February twenty twenty three. The Skycave Retreats
Speaker 1: bothers me. It seems you said you had a take
Speaker 1: on this story. You almost didn't discuss it, and this
Speaker 1: is quite a take. I thought, Yeah, I thought it
Speaker 1: was something a little more crunchy, given um, the path
Speaker 1: he's taken in life. This is you wanted him to
Speaker 1: go kind of yeah. I wanted it to be something
Speaker 1: like an eternal journey that he went on deep into
Speaker 1: like the woods. The fact that he just googled darkness
Speaker 1: retreats and then got on a private jet and went
Speaker 1: to this place and then stayed for a couple of
Speaker 1: you gotta have the person to drop the food into
Speaker 1: the hole or whatever. It's more than just darkness. You're
Speaker 1: embracing the energy of the universe. This is right for
Speaker 1: like seventeen hundred dollars an hour. Yeah, because you have
Speaker 1: to have a trained professional. You can't just have any darkness.
Speaker 1: You can't just go because you just only like a
Speaker 1: three hundred square feet though. That's pretty hardcore. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: that that that did bother me, that that it wasn't official. Um,
Speaker 1: I might have a similar situation going on because movers
Speaker 1: arrive tomorrow. Uh in I'm moving, but we had ordered
Speaker 1: a new bed for the new place and it hasn't
Speaker 1: arrived yet, and I still have the old place until
Speaker 1: the end of the month. And I think so I
Speaker 1: might stay in the old place in the old bed
Speaker 1: because there's nowhere to sleep in the new bed. But
Speaker 1: just bas no, we have like five more days, so
Speaker 1: I think that is going to be my five day
Speaker 1: darkness retreat in my old house. You could foil the
Speaker 1: windows in the empty house and then sell it as
Speaker 1: a darkness retreat, all right. You just put some astrological
Speaker 1: information up there and people will flock to it. I um,
Speaker 1: when I was living on the Upper West Side in
Speaker 1: New York. They it was this old building. It was
Speaker 1: a fifth floor walk up, and loved living there was
Speaker 1: a great place eighty second in Amsterdam. And as happens,
Speaker 1: especially in New York, but especially in that area, it
Speaker 1: was decided that it was going to be sold to
Speaker 1: a developer who would turn it into a luxury condominium.
Speaker 1: So we got booted out of the place, and I
Speaker 1: was working at MLB dot com on the southern end
Speaker 1: of Manhattan, and there I didn't really have a place
Speaker 1: to live for like a couple of months, so I
Speaker 1: had spent a lot of time at my buddies Bob's
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. But sometimes when I didn't want to go
Speaker 1: through that, I would just like go up to the
Speaker 1: old apartment that was still everything was still there, and
Speaker 1: I just the key still worked, and I just slept
Speaker 1: on the couch. Multiple times months after our lease had
Speaker 1: lapsed and the entire building was empty. It was a
Speaker 1: little scary, to be honest with you, but I could
Speaker 1: steal Wi Fi from an apartment across the way, and
Speaker 1: there was enough light coming in because there were no
Speaker 1: blinds that it wasn't a darkness retreat. And that was
Speaker 1: a nice little life pack for the old zuser in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: I would argue you were morally obligated to do that,
Speaker 1: considering that they free the option and put you on
Speaker 1: the street. I like that that was the only way
Speaker 1: to go. It's a lot of sleeping in strange place
Speaker 1: content today. Before the show too, Patrick talked about how
Speaker 1: occasionally at the old NFL building he set up a mattress,
Speaker 1: an air mattress when he had the three am shift. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you can. You have a small child at home,
Speaker 1: not a lot of sleep there, when you can. And finally,
Speaker 1: net Netflix announces a QB series. What's it called Grave Diggers?
Speaker 1: It called Quarterback. Yes see. I kind of like that.
Speaker 1: It's just like, we're not fusing around here. It's Quarterback, um,
Speaker 1: and we'll focus on the lives and careers of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, that's a pretty good get for the series.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, that's kind of a great get for people
Speaker 1: that find that guy interesting. Uh I do. I honestly
Speaker 1: find Kirk Cousins interesting. Not that he he's an interesting guy, right,
Speaker 1: this is what makes him tick? What is up with Kirk?
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna get to I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's I don't The less I know,
Speaker 1: the better. I feel like, keep the mystery around Kirk. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: and I want to see like the Kirk Cousins who
Speaker 1: did a gender reveal and almost missed the target. Like,
Speaker 1: I want to see what's going on at Cousins mansion. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Netflix is doing that series, and I like that. I
Speaker 1: love quarterbacks and getting behind the scenes. Look, especially with
Speaker 1: mahomes about give it to Me. I will be curious
Speaker 1: to see how they handle the Mariota getting benched and
Speaker 1: then leaving the team because waiting mid season for the
Speaker 1: birth of his daughter. Wait, did they I don't know
Speaker 1: enough about the series, so it's covering him across the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh okay, great, it's pretty good too. I'm all about
Speaker 1: streaming services doing football content. Get at me, hit me up,
Speaker 1: connect with Patrick Clay. They have they have a similar
Speaker 1: ish tennis one. They had the f one. Now they
Speaker 1: have a tennis one and it's it's up and down.
Speaker 1: It took out a few episodes to get going. I
Speaker 1: thought it was great. Did you watch it? I love streaming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the mega watts smile hire this man. Let's take a
Speaker 1: break and we will pitch some trades. All right, mind,
Speaker 1: it's time for Navigating Trades and Free Agency, presented by Toyota. Uh. Greg,
Speaker 1: it is the I just heard um. I checked with
Speaker 1: the Associated Press. This is the fifth anniversary of your
Speaker 1: Trade Tsunami column. Uh. And obviously it's take on a
Speaker 1: life of its own in the years since it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's washed over the mainstream. At this point, it's
Speaker 1: only picked up. Unfortunately, like a lot of climate change,
Speaker 1: like it just gets worse and worse the trades last season.
Speaker 1: At this point it's out of my control. Trade Tsunami
Speaker 1: lives bigger than me. And I'd love the NFL is
Speaker 1: embracing this, you know, embracing the chaos. Yeah, it makes
Speaker 1: it more fun to follow in the off season Fox Show,
Speaker 1: including when the actual deadline is come around Halloween every year,
Speaker 1: it just you know, big names will be moving. So
Speaker 1: this will be an opportunity for us to throw out
Speaker 1: some trades. And just to be clear, these are going
Speaker 1: to be trades that we believe can happen. These are
Speaker 1: trades that have they're rooted in a realistic nature. Okay,
Speaker 1: the rooted. I'm searching for the word. I can't find it.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw to Patrick to get us going.
Speaker 1: And when I do think of the word, I will
Speaker 1: probably interrupt you. But rooted in go ahead, all right?
Speaker 1: So the first trade, and I'm glad that I'm going first,
Speaker 1: because you guys are probably going to think about this.
Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons send pick number one oh eight, excuse me,
Speaker 1: one oh nine, pick number eight, a twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: first rounder in a conditional twenty twenty four first round pick,
Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for the Lamar Demitrius Sho.
Speaker 1: You came off the top roup to begin with. Wait,
Speaker 1: you have to re read the so I need to
Speaker 1: hear it. Those Let's start the present with Lamar, the
Speaker 1: top ten pick rooted in reality. He was the word
Speaker 1: you were looking at A well, not really bad. I
Speaker 1: don't think this is unrealistic. I don't think it's that unrealized.
Speaker 1: That's an exercise, right, Yeah, No, it's got to be realistic.
Speaker 1: Gotta be rooted in reality. And Lamar Jackson getting traded,
Speaker 1: as we talked about Tuesday, certainly can have It's the
Speaker 1: number eight overall pick yep number eight overall one oh
Speaker 1: nine overall. A first round pick one or nine is
Speaker 1: a fourth rounder, yes, okay, another because they a first
Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty four and a conditional first
Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty five. Sorry four conditional first
Speaker 1: rounder in twenty five tied to performance or playing time
Speaker 1: or what do we We'll figure out the concussions. It's
Speaker 1: just important. It's the first round pick. Yeah. I had
Speaker 1: to throw in an extra first because there were the
Speaker 1: two first for Russell Wilson. Lamar clearly a younger player.
Speaker 1: You can't think it's tough to think of a precedent
Speaker 1: for a player at this position, at this age. Lamar
Speaker 1: younger than Joe Burrow. It's like, considering the things that
Speaker 1: he's done and things that he can do well. Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson got three first a third, and essentially a late
Speaker 1: round trade up, and so you would think that's the
Speaker 1: starting point. It's kind of like the whole Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: negotiations is getting in the way of of Lamar in general.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I know that's like we look back
Speaker 1: at what Steve Bashadi said last year and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh and everybody's reaction to the Watson contract was well
Speaker 1: that this puts Baltimore into tough position. What put them
Speaker 1: in a tough position was not paying Lamar Jackson the
Speaker 1: moment they had the opportunity, and what that signals to
Speaker 1: me and the consecutive moments since then, is they don't
Speaker 1: want to have Lamar on their team and pay him
Speaker 1: what he's what he deserves. So let's just let's cut
Speaker 1: with all this and like, oh, we want Lamar to
Speaker 1: be here. If you did, you would have had him.
Speaker 1: It's just like after the fact when Davante left Green Bay,
Speaker 1: there was oh, well there was this offer and there
Speaker 1: was that. No, it's just it's like you're saying in
Speaker 1: terms of you're saying, it's not really something to connect
Speaker 1: the dots on which I agree if you're if you
Speaker 1: mean that they didn't get the deal done before last March,
Speaker 1: because once that deal happens, it does connect well, I
Speaker 1: think these quarterbacks, right, I agree, But Patrick has a
Speaker 1: good point that ultimately I believe there are other teams
Speaker 1: that value Lamar Jackson higher than the Baltimore Ravens do,
Speaker 1: which is a little disappointing if you're Lamar Jackson that
Speaker 1: there are many teams out there, and I think Atlanta
Speaker 1: would be a perfect landing spot for him in terms
Speaker 1: of what Arthur Smith likes to do, and I think
Speaker 1: they would love it that would give him the fully
Speaker 1: guaranteed contract, and that I think whether Steve Bashotti cares
Speaker 1: about precedent or not, it doesn't. It doesn't matter. If
Speaker 1: there's teams out there like the Jets, like the Falcons
Speaker 1: that would happily give him a five year guaranteed contract,
Speaker 1: then that's his value and that ultimately, like Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: can get that. I know, like the teams have players
Speaker 1: over a barrel with these franchise tags, But I really
Speaker 1: do think that Watson trade change things and that quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are gonna get these types of contracts moving forward. UM.
Speaker 1: Good one, Patrick, I like it. You are you are
Speaker 1: the media entities number one Lamar Our fan, and you
Speaker 1: like the idea of him getting a fresh start in
Speaker 1: Atlanta as well. I just like the idea of people
Speaker 1: getting paid what they deserve, and like it was less
Speaker 1: than a year ago, Derek Carr signs this alleged one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one million dollar extension and that's all
Speaker 1: of the headlines. Oh, one hundred twenty one million. He
Speaker 1: got seven percent of one hundred twenty one million fired. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so like the reality of these things are is
Speaker 1: we float these contract numbers. And of course Lamar and
Speaker 1: his family and a lawyer are negotiating this deal. Where
Speaker 1: is this request of a guaranteed contract even coming from? Right?
Speaker 1: We don't know that for sure, and so I don't
Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that the Ravens have made an
Speaker 1: offer that's aggressive enough for because if they did, I
Speaker 1: don't think we'd be having this. There's been different reporting.
Speaker 1: There was one report out there that said that guarantee
Speaker 1: was around one hundred and thirty million, which would have
Speaker 1: been significantly lower than Kyler Murray. I did. I mean
Speaker 1: a Kimes' show this week, she mentioned hearing something that
Speaker 1: it was more than Kyler Murray, but not fully guarantee.
Speaker 1: And then if it's if it's getting that close, it's like,
Speaker 1: just do it right, If you're that clote, if you're
Speaker 1: willing to guarantee one hundred and eighty million, just just
Speaker 1: go to two thirty Like what what are you holding
Speaker 1: out for? Principal wise, I'm with you that how much?
Speaker 1: How much do you think, uh, Lamar missing the end
Speaker 1: of the last two seasons consecutively have led Baltimore to
Speaker 1: maybe hesitate here, They've been hesitating before that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think it has a huge factor. They were they
Speaker 1: were hesitating because it was the same deal last year.
Speaker 1: They weren't coming close to the contract last year, right, right,
Speaker 1: but then it happened again. I'm just saying, if if
Speaker 1: iriability issue questions about a mobile quarterback that you know,
Speaker 1: if he's Taylor Lawana and he's not good when he's
Speaker 1: on the field, then I think that's worthwhile discussion. But
Speaker 1: whoever plays quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens is going to
Speaker 1: be a human being who was capable of being injured.
Speaker 1: And essentially most of these things did the luck. Did
Speaker 1: you hear my pitch about a sports agency? Um? Last
Speaker 1: day show? Um, not athletes first? People first? I like it.
Speaker 1: Let's get people all right. Let me go next because
Speaker 1: mine connects to yours because I have a quarterback in
Speaker 1: Atlanta as well. Oh wow, Um, but it's not Lamar.
Speaker 1: This team would love Lamar the Falcons. But let's say
Speaker 1: that is not an option. Um, you know, we gotta
Speaker 1: get number three out of Denver. We gotta get him
Speaker 1: out of there. We got an airlift number three. Did
Speaker 1: you see by the way, that Tarique Woolen was just
Speaker 1: doing a podcast and he said when he met Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: he was surprised by first out kind of how he
Speaker 1: was short and stature in trigue will in six three.
Speaker 1: But but he also said his body was like a
Speaker 1: sack of potatoes. That was interesting to this dude just
Speaker 1: got to the league. Everybody's taking and I was like,
Speaker 1: Russ will I know Russell Wilson could take. You know,
Speaker 1: has been taking a lot of fire, really his whole rear.
Speaker 1: But now people are coming for him. His fitness. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's the one thing you would never have
Speaker 1: to worry about with Wilson, but he was described by
Speaker 1: a rookie cornerback is a sack of potatoes. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: feel for Russell Wilson. He does not seem like a
Speaker 1: bad guy, and he's in a bad situation in Denver,
Speaker 1: you know, And now you have Sean Payton there, who
Speaker 1: is as we talked about when the hire happened, he's
Speaker 1: the boss there. Now he's in control of the situation.
Speaker 1: This is no longer Russell Land. Remember Nathaniel Hackett's famous
Speaker 1: line at the press conference, come on, y'all, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: Holy very exciting. It's crazy how how recently that was
Speaker 1: and things are so different now the Falcons, and this
Speaker 1: connects with Patrick as well because one element of this.
Speaker 1: Atlanta has the second highest amount of cap space in
Speaker 1: the league right now fifty six million. Chicago, by the way,
Speaker 1: is first with almost one hundred million in cap space.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on them anyway. So we know, here's
Speaker 1: the quick background that connects to Lamar as well as Russ.
Speaker 1: That the Falcons, as we know, under Arthur Smith, it's
Speaker 1: a run first offense. They play in a dome, they're
Speaker 1: in a week division. It's an offensive minded head coach
Speaker 1: who has a history of salvaging veteran quarterbacks. Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: comes to mind. The Falcons are in QB purgatory with
Speaker 1: no obvious in house option. You got Desmond Ritter, who
Speaker 1: Mariota was a total mess and now is on Netflix.
Speaker 1: Last offseason, they traded Matt Ryan to the Colts for
Speaker 1: a third round pick. So let's try something similar here
Speaker 1: with the Broncos. Russell Wilson to the Falcons for a
Speaker 1: third round pick seventy fifth overall Escalators based on Wilson's play,
Speaker 1: becomes a second round pick if Wilson plays seventy five
Speaker 1: percent of snaps, first rounder if Wilson plays seventy five percent,
Speaker 1: and the Falcons appear in the NFC title game, Fresh
Speaker 1: start for all involved, and the Falcons maybe maybe have
Speaker 1: a quarterback. M This is a shocker. It's a gamblebviously
Speaker 1: would be gamb especially at the gamble for Atlanta too
Speaker 1: much is probably in the he's year three of a regime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: got him, probably make the playoffs, and you're hitching your
Speaker 1: wagon to Russ. But I think it's better than what
Speaker 1: they have currently. It's it's a short side to me,
Speaker 1: it's a short term solution. It's Denver just deciding we
Speaker 1: kind of are punting on twenty twenty three, not punting
Speaker 1: in the sense of like we're not going to try
Speaker 1: to win we could. We think we can find a
Speaker 1: very low cost quarterback that can play as well or
Speaker 1: better than Russell Wilson, and we're gonna swallow, you know,
Speaker 1: the biggest salary cap pain we've ever had, like any
Speaker 1: team's ever had. I think it would be sixty million
Speaker 1: dollars that Russell Wilson would be on their books, but
Speaker 1: he'd be they'd be done with it. It'd be clean,
Speaker 1: it would wash over the organization. If if internally they're like,
Speaker 1: it's very similar to the Matt Ryan trade, because that
Speaker 1: was sort of under the radar. The Falcons decided to
Speaker 1: take incredible dead money pain just to kind of be
Speaker 1: done with it, get of Matt Ryan and move forward.
Speaker 1: And then the pick that they have to send to
Speaker 1: me is almost incidental. I think they could probably like
Speaker 1: if someone was willing to take Russell Wilson, they would
Speaker 1: take whatever. If it's a third, if it's a fifth,
Speaker 1: sure is for the Falcons. And that much of a
Speaker 1: need to be to be out of this. I mean,
Speaker 1: we saw the head coach go, Um, he's right back
Speaker 1: doing doing what he does. Um, he's going to be
Speaker 1: involved in calling plays and managing an offense and all
Speaker 1: of those things. And so it's it's all Russ. It
Speaker 1: just it took a collective effort for the offense to
Speaker 1: be that bad. Right, you're saying they don't hate the
Speaker 1: idea though, of like, we don't really see him as
Speaker 1: the long term solution and that if anyone's willing to
Speaker 1: give up anything, they would take him. It's interest like,
Speaker 1: it's weird because any team that takes him on, people think,
Speaker 1: oh wow, why would you even take on that contract. Actually,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson will be one of the cheapest starting quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the league. He has base no base salary, and
Speaker 1: he would be a one year kicking the tires commitment
Speaker 1: where you're paying him, you know, less than what like
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston types are making. He makes eight million dollars
Speaker 1: this year base salary, and you just see it's just
Speaker 1: sort of a kicking the cans. It's it's free money,
Speaker 1: free money for the Falcons. Let's do it, Broncos country.
Speaker 1: Let's right. I like the Lamar move much better. I
Speaker 1: want to see better. I mean, I just I don't
Speaker 1: see any purpose in taking on Russell Wilson at the
Speaker 1: at this point. But I get it from Denver's perspective.
Speaker 1: I just want to see what new slogan he'll say
Speaker 1: at the end of press conferences if he goes to
Speaker 1: another team. I think he I think what we'll see
Speaker 1: just the prediction. Sometimes self awareness is not a trait
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson tends to possess, but some of that
Speaker 1: stuff is going to melt away. Now. I feel like
Speaker 1: there was a very humbling twenty twenty two. I think
Speaker 1: what changes is the people he's selling himself to, uh
Speaker 1: and the people he's selling himself to and Denver are
Speaker 1: fundamentally different than the ones that are in Atlanta and
Speaker 1: um so I think it would it would change because
Speaker 1: Russ Russ manages a brand and like all of these
Speaker 1: guys do. Like Matt Ryan, like the discussion about like
Speaker 1: how good he was and how happy he was with
Speaker 1: being benched and how he was gonna help. It was like, no,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was pissed off, but guaranteed seventeen million dollars
Speaker 1: next year, by the way, so it's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a it's a two year, twenty five million dollar commitment,
Speaker 1: so kind of a similar contract to one you would
Speaker 1: give like a I don't even know who is Amid,
Speaker 1: No one gets does It's not even Jameis Wins. Then
Speaker 1: I guess would get like a two for twenty five
Speaker 1: that he got from the Saints something like that. All right,
Speaker 1: Greggy hit us, Greg all right, mine simple. DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: to Buffalo for the Bills's uh first round pick this year,
Speaker 1: which I believe it's twenty nine. Okay, okay, interesting DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins Okay, he's thirty coming off the PD but did
Speaker 1: perform when he came back last season. Bills, we all
Speaker 1: talked about it. Have a need to add some more playmakers.
Speaker 1: I like it. You say first round pick, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a late pick that seems maybe a little rich. Do
Speaker 1: you want to give up a first round pick? I
Speaker 1: would say second, and maybe give back a fifth or something.
Speaker 1: It's it's all about managing the window, though, and we
Speaker 1: see how small that that window could be. And you
Speaker 1: go from you know, asking the corpse of Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: to come run some routes in the playoffs to putting
Speaker 1: new Hopkins in the slot. Definitely to change, huge upgrade.
Speaker 1: I love the fit because he doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: the number one there. I don't think he's necessarily that
Speaker 1: guy where the whole offense needs to revolve around him.
Speaker 1: You have Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis is a useful player,
Speaker 1: but putting him one depth, you know, one spot down helps.
Speaker 1: I don't think the twenty seventh overall pick and that
Speaker 1: that's what it would be would be too much for him,
Speaker 1: like this is not it's not just win now. But
Speaker 1: I think that's totally appropriate value. You look at the
Speaker 1: players they've drafted in general in the first round, and
Speaker 1: I know, you get these rookie contracts and that's nice.
Speaker 1: You have to play DeAndre Hopkins a lot more. But
Speaker 1: it's it's been Tremaine Edmonds, it's been Greg Rousseau, which
Speaker 1: worked out Ed Oliver like Kyrie Elam last year. This
Speaker 1: is either at the end of the first round, these
Speaker 1: aren't as great a premium pick, and I'm taking bird
Speaker 1: in the hand, DeAndre Hopkins with that big arm at
Speaker 1: Josh Allen throwing at seventy yards on the field. It's fun.
Speaker 1: I would I would do it. I would do it
Speaker 1: for the twenty seventh overall pick, but I would try
Speaker 1: very hard to hold on to the pick and see
Speaker 1: if I can get Yeah, I think the trade market
Speaker 1: and I have another receiver trade coming. I think it'll
Speaker 1: be aggressive because I think it'll cost that much, because
Speaker 1: I think they'll be competition because there's so little available
Speaker 1: in free agency at wide receiver. Mister Patrick laybal and
Speaker 1: back to you, buddy, all right. I think I could
Speaker 1: satisfy a couple of different with the alarm. Run for cover.
Speaker 1: There's nowhere to run, there's nowhere. The sea is retreating.
Speaker 1: What does that mean. It means there's a swell of
Speaker 1: water on the way, and that water includes the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans sending pick number four, pick number thirty five. Here
Speaker 1: we go, pick number one hundred and five. There we go,
Speaker 1: and Brandon cooks the Chicago Bears in exchange for the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Thank you Patrick for doing that.
Speaker 1: We could not do this exercise without addressing the Bears
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. And you've done it. Can we
Speaker 1: want to do it one more time? So I can
Speaker 1: should have been four five or four thirty five and
Speaker 1: one oh five and Brandon cooks. I needed to throw
Speaker 1: in a player because I use the Rich Hill shout
Speaker 1: out to Rich Hill trade value chart, which has been
Speaker 1: almost identical to the trades that we've seen in the
Speaker 1: past few years. And uh, those numbers get close to
Speaker 1: working out for me in the Bear mean two overall.
Speaker 1: Two overall Bears are the first overall pick right, oh whoops,
Speaker 1: my bad? Yeah, and the since number two. So just
Speaker 1: to move up one spot, you got to give up
Speaker 1: all that. You got to be absolutely in love with
Speaker 1: a quarterback that you can't risk not getting. Do we
Speaker 1: have any insight that they are in love with somebody.
Speaker 1: I just wanted Justin Fields to have a good receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Cooks Fields trade on this conversation now,
Speaker 1: I think this is and I don't think a Justin
Speaker 1: Fields trade is crazy for the Bearers to consider they
Speaker 1: didn't draft him depending on what they can get. I
Speaker 1: just don't think that's a crazy thing to like go
Speaker 1: through the exercise he was on with Rich Eisen said
Speaker 1: the only thing he would love in this scenario is transparency,
Speaker 1: like toe from the team. Yeah, to hear from the
Speaker 1: team like what they're thinking. He hasn't yet and I
Speaker 1: don't I unfortunately don't think he will. It's an uncomfortable
Speaker 1: thing that if they get a godfather offer they have
Speaker 1: to think about everything. But to me, this is perfect
Speaker 1: for them. You move only one spot down, you actually
Speaker 1: still have the option of drafting quarterback there or entertaining
Speaker 1: more likely trades for another quarterback moving up there. And
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that crazy for Houston to give
Speaker 1: up all that because some other team will if they
Speaker 1: don't Indianapolis will, or the Raiders will or the Panthers
Speaker 1: will like it could happen. And what it does is
Speaker 1: it exercises the Trubisky trade demons, and all of that
Speaker 1: finally goes away and the Bears can be happy. I
Speaker 1: mean that goes away until Patrick Mahomes retires. But I mean, imagine,
Speaker 1: if you're the Bears, you get the number two overall pick,
Speaker 1: and you get that second round back that you gave
Speaker 1: up for Claypool, which maybe a mistake, you get Cooks.
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing there. You could trade the Bears in,
Speaker 1: you could keep accruing picks. It is really an amazing situation.
Speaker 1: They found themselves in not being able to win games
Speaker 1: last year. Remember Bears fans last offseason very upset about,
Speaker 1: like I remember, they were my number one overall pick
Speaker 1: when we did over unders taking the under for Bears,
Speaker 1: very upset about that. They're upset with your power rankings
Speaker 1: in this season, and yet UH, now they're in this
Speaker 1: beautiful spot because they lived up. Um. I feel bad
Speaker 1: for the UH and this is gonna be surprising to
Speaker 1: some listeners, but I feel bad for the Jeremiah's of
Speaker 1: the world. DJ you know, he's put out mock Draft
Speaker 1: two point zero, and it's just you're in a tough
Speaker 1: spot because the Bears are almost certainly going to trade
Speaker 1: that pick, or it's very likely it happens, but they can't.
Speaker 1: They don't want to a lot of these mock guys
Speaker 1: don't want to mock trades this early. So you're stuck
Speaker 1: giving giving the Bears Jalen Carter, the Georgia defensive tackle
Speaker 1: um and then you have Bryce Young, according to DJ,
Speaker 1: going to Houston with the number two pick. He calls
Speaker 1: him the best quarterback in the class. Here's the here's
Speaker 1: the dream scenario for the Bears. Let's say they do
Speaker 1: trade out of one and it is to the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: And then let's say the Texans take the quarterback that
Speaker 1: the Colts don't want, and then the Cults are gonna
Speaker 1: have to come up to two at that point, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to entertain those discussions that they were
Speaker 1: just having that weren't good enough, like what's the price
Speaker 1: then to get to two. It could be it could
Speaker 1: be all Bears. They could get three first round pick
Speaker 1: value out of There is absolutely a scenario here, assuming
Speaker 1: they want to keep justin fields. But even if they
Speaker 1: would entertain the idea of trading him, the fact that
Speaker 1: they're there and this is such a quarterback I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say quarterback rich, but there's four guys that are probably
Speaker 1: going to go in the top fifteen. The question of
Speaker 1: if you go up to one, though, is does Young
Speaker 1: Is he that much higher on everyone's list, or on
Speaker 1: at least the Texans list than whoever's next, whether it's c. J.
Speaker 1: Stroud or Levis. There is conversation around this quarterback class
Speaker 1: that is better than last year, but certainly not a
Speaker 1: quote slam dunk guy that you know will be a
Speaker 1: big time NFL qb Ain't that the way, although it
Speaker 1: you know, cults Jim Mersey already sort of throwing it
Speaker 1: out there that this Bryce Young looks pretty good the one.
Speaker 1: You know, he threw that out there in the introductory
Speaker 1: press conference for their head coach and basically said, like,
Speaker 1: we brought him in to develop. We brought Shane Stikeen
Speaker 1: in to develop a young quarterback. So they're taking a quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's just whether they get their first choice or second choice.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're a third. All right, you said, Greg, you
Speaker 1: had you had a wide receiver. I do have another wide.
Speaker 1: I have a wide receiver and another one, But why
Speaker 1: don't you throw out your wide receiver? Cults related This
Speaker 1: one's pretty simple. The Tsunami's coming to Indianapolis. Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: to the Colts for a two and twenty four third
Speaker 1: round pick. The Cults have already traded away their their
Speaker 1: third round pick this year. Uh in the what was
Speaker 1: it the Matt Ryan trade and what was it? Um
Speaker 1: Keim Allen. I don't think it's gonna have like a
Speaker 1: super aggressive market as a trade option because of his
Speaker 1: big salary, But I think if you look at it,
Speaker 1: he's due to make fifteen million base salary this year.
Speaker 1: I actually think he could get that or maybe a
Speaker 1: little more in free agency. So I actually don't think
Speaker 1: that Chargers will have to cut him if that's what
Speaker 1: they're leaning towards doing, which it sounds very possible. With
Speaker 1: their cap situation, the Colts can fit Allen in under
Speaker 1: the cap stike and worked with Keenan Allen before when
Speaker 1: he was back in San Diego and feel like he
Speaker 1: is like the capable, relatively low cost pair of hands
Speaker 1: they could use to pair there with Michael Pittman, I like,
Speaker 1: it makes sense, highly sensible. Yeah, not like a huge
Speaker 1: fireworks trade. But I was kind of trying to look
Speaker 1: to see like who is legitimately realistically gonna get traded.
Speaker 1: And I've been seeing all this Keenan Allen might get
Speaker 1: cut noise, and I'm like, no, I think team would
Speaker 1: give something up even even that contract is not that
Speaker 1: crazy to me. Can't stay healthy, but he's still when
Speaker 1: he's on the field, he's still Keenan Allen. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: do a wide receiver too, m c D who is
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. But you heard earlier he was on
Speaker 1: around the NFL a couple of weeks back in Phoenix. Uh.
Speaker 1: He disagreed or was a little confused on the Zaddi
Speaker 1: line up questioning, but he also was frank with us
Speaker 1: and frankly others on the Cowboys needed to clean things
Speaker 1: up a little bit in terms of their playmaking roster.
Speaker 1: They I want more players around me. Let's let's listen
Speaker 1: to a little bit of what CD had to say
Speaker 1: on our show. You got as around stare like that
Speaker 1: um on Dak Yes, go look at the Eagles and
Speaker 1: they got three receivers. Um great tight end group. Uh
Speaker 1: they run the ball well, a line is very phenomenal.
Speaker 1: He get San France, they got they surrounded their quarterback
Speaker 1: and uh, you get you get success ultimately. I mean
Speaker 1: granted we got we got just you know, as many weapons,
Speaker 1: but that extra player or that that that one, all
Speaker 1: all it takes is one. You know, you could be
Speaker 1: so close in that to the to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: and they could be a deciding factors of feel like
Speaker 1: just keeping him, just keeping him comfortable in the pocket,
Speaker 1: just keeping just keeping him surrounded with you know whatever.
Speaker 1: Its spart production should I say? And uh, you gotta
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Look at us making news. We're from newsmakers.
Speaker 1: Look at us facts like that Ceedee Lamb. So he's
Speaker 1: he's putting it out there in the media that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have enough guys to make Dak the quarterback
Speaker 1: he can be. So you know, jar Jara likes making splashes.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have some issues. They're not in cap hell,
Speaker 1: but they have work to do to get underneath the cap.
Speaker 1: But it is possible. For instance, there is a path
Speaker 1: to cutting Dak Prescott's current cap hit in half, and
Speaker 1: you know, moving the pain down the line, they can
Speaker 1: clear money, and they should clear money because they also
Speaker 1: have to bring back Tony Pollard. By the way, Dalton
Speaker 1: Schultz um, but they need that number two wide receiver
Speaker 1: just like the Bills. And I do like uh, I
Speaker 1: do like allup. But also we just don't know if
Speaker 1: he's ever gonna be the same guy again after that
Speaker 1: knee injury, So let's go get him a true number
Speaker 1: two alongside CD Mike Evans. WHOA, he's twenty nine years old,
Speaker 1: he's in the last year of his contract. The Bucks
Speaker 1: are steaming toward a rebuild, so it makes sense Evans
Speaker 1: went to Texas A and M you're a home state,
Speaker 1: justin for better or worse, and he uh scheduled to
Speaker 1: make twenty four million, that's the eighth highest paid wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. But you can make it work.
Speaker 1: You can find a way, and then you have, hopefully
Speaker 1: with Tony Pollard healthy and back on the roster, CD,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and his nine straight one thousand yard seasons,
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz and Dak Prescott going for it this year
Speaker 1: and seeing if they could get over the hump out
Speaker 1: of the divisional playoffs. That's that's the favorite trade that
Speaker 1: I've we've suggested to me. Can I oh, I didn't
Speaker 1: do the terms. Second round pick fifty eighth overall, and
Speaker 1: the ice is great, and you can sometimes I could
Speaker 1: be wrong. Maybe it would take a first round pick.
Speaker 1: I think, like what you're saying, the Bills would have
Speaker 1: to give up. But sometimes these guys that are on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty veterans that are expensive, I
Speaker 1: think sometimes it takes down the price a little more,
Speaker 1: and everybody's a little surprised sometimes by the terms when
Speaker 1: they come out. But I would do it for a
Speaker 1: first time. Certainly that happened with a Marii Cooper last season.
Speaker 1: He's only thirty though, and he still moves well. I
Speaker 1: know he didn't have a great season. The only trick,
Speaker 1: and I've seen this Evans thing out here, is just
Speaker 1: they don't really save much money by tradeium. Like there's
Speaker 1: this idea that, like, he makes a lot of money,
Speaker 1: so you save a lot by tradeium. But it's just
Speaker 1: not the case because of the way his contracts directors.
Speaker 1: So I don't see their motivation unless they got a
Speaker 1: premium pick. I think they are at a point where
Speaker 1: it could make sense to trade Mike Evans because his
Speaker 1: value is at a high relatively, But that's why I
Speaker 1: just would say they would need more. You gotta get
Speaker 1: that first round, and I think they could get it.
Speaker 1: I don't see why not. All right, twist on my
Speaker 1: arm a second and a fourth with a six going
Speaker 1: back the other way. Right, This isn't exactly like you're
Speaker 1: the GM, But I'm not doing this trade if I'm
Speaker 1: Jason Light without a first plus and I don't think that.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's a team out there that would
Speaker 1: give up a first round pick for Mike Evans? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do. I think you just named that team. I
Speaker 1: think I think so because it is partly because of
Speaker 1: the money situation. After June first, it would be a
Speaker 1: bigger trade, but that's like not when things happen, but
Speaker 1: right now it wouldn't really. They wouldn't really save anything
Speaker 1: from it. So it's like, you gotta make it worth it.
Speaker 1: You gotta make it worth it. And once you make
Speaker 1: the trade right, you can make some sort of commitment
Speaker 1: to both Mink Evans and Deck as you mentioned, and
Speaker 1: kind of alter the cap situation that number twenty six pick.
Speaker 1: Where are we getting at twenty six? Mike Evans? Isn't
Speaker 1: there at twenty six. Mike Evans might not I would
Speaker 1: do it. I would do it, but as this is
Speaker 1: not you're the GM, but I would try very hard
Speaker 1: to hold onto that pick if I can and see
Speaker 1: see if we can make the move and and the
Speaker 1: and the Bucks. Maybe either're like Jason Light's like man,
Speaker 1: I love Secon round picks, so I love them. They're cheaper,
Speaker 1: team control. I like good players. And this is a
Speaker 1: fallout from what they did in the Tom Brady era.
Speaker 1: Is they did things to create space, like adding three
Speaker 1: fake years onto Mike Evans's deal that don't really exist.
Speaker 1: They're void years, but push this pain so that if
Speaker 1: they wanted to make this trade, they're not really saving
Speaker 1: anything because of everything they did a year. It was
Speaker 1: a party. That was the whole goal of the Brady
Speaker 1: trade and eat the pain. This last year wasn't worth it.
Speaker 1: But they you know, I don't blame them for doing it.
Speaker 1: Sure we have, anybody else? Have another one? Oh? I
Speaker 1: gotta because I do. All right, let's do one words,
Speaker 1: take a break, and we'll do one more each. We
Speaker 1: love Akholder back, all right, one more time around the horn, Claybonne,
Speaker 1: Let's get it the Seattle Seahawks and the fifty first
Speaker 1: overall and the eighty third overall pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three draft to the New Orleans Saints in exchange
Speaker 1: for Cam Jordan. Oh okay, like that, who's got one
Speaker 1: more year on his deal? Ye. The Saints, as Greg
Speaker 1: pointed out earlier this week, wanted to try to save
Speaker 1: money on Derek Carr, like during their their interview before
Speaker 1: he was going to be a free agent. And it
Speaker 1: signals to me that they're they're finally starting to worry
Speaker 1: about these things, and we're going to see some longtime
Speaker 1: New Orleans favorites and other places. All time sack leader
Speaker 1: of New Orleans Saints. I believe maybe he started to
Speaker 1: show some of his age last year. Maybe he's not
Speaker 1: the same dude, but he's also a guy that would
Speaker 1: it surprise you if he went to Seattle and had
Speaker 1: eleven sacks next year. Seattle is the type of team too,
Speaker 1: that would give up good value for a player like
Speaker 1: Cam Jordan. I think if the Saints could get that,
Speaker 1: they would do it. I like that one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: set a second round pick too, how about that? Okay,
Speaker 1: what we got, We're going to Green Bay Darren Waller
Speaker 1: to Green Bay for a twenty twenty four second round pick.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it has to be twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have it in a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three second round pick. In a twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. They were reportedly offering a premium pick,
Speaker 1: according to Ian Rapport at the trade deadline for Waller,
Speaker 1: considering there were reports that they offered their second for
Speaker 1: chess Chase Claypool. But we're topped by Chicago. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna guess it was this second round pick. Now you
Speaker 1: can get it for Waller. I think the Raiders are
Speaker 1: motivated to trade Waller, and I think he will be
Speaker 1: traded this off season. There's already been little little bird droppings.
Speaker 1: I've heard that that he's kind of outop like bird dropping.
Speaker 1: I don't know, or are they birds dropping information or
Speaker 1: are they defecated a little bit of both. Darren Waller
Speaker 1: he recently signed a contract that made him one of
Speaker 1: the most or if not the most, highest highest paid
Speaker 1: tight end in the league. I don't know. Uh, I
Speaker 1: know he's hurt a lot. I don't know. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: feels like I don't know if he's a little disinterested
Speaker 1: and you have Josh McDaniels there, It doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: that staff. And it's interesting that he got that contract,
Speaker 1: but there might be a disagreement here and value between
Speaker 1: ownership and the coaching staff. It's a good it's a
Speaker 1: tradable contract. I think, where's he going? I'm sorry, Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and you do that move regardless of if it's Rogers
Speaker 1: or Love because you gotta give the whoever it is.
Speaker 1: They need another weapon. They need they need pass catchers
Speaker 1: no matter what they're doing. Uh you, I like to
Speaker 1: how about another trade involving a second round pick? Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry I checked with my official Titans insider, only one
Speaker 1: year remaining on his contract. That is a very tradeable contract,
Speaker 1: even if he is a highly paid running back who
Speaker 1: perhaps isn't the same guy he was two years ago,
Speaker 1: but still Derek Henry I think has a year or
Speaker 1: two in the tank where he could be a big
Speaker 1: time contributor, especially if he's in the right offense. How
Speaker 1: about this, Derek Henry to the New York Giants who
Speaker 1: boxed in a little bit here with say Quon or
Speaker 1: perhaps don't want to give him a top of the
Speaker 1: market running back contract and have the Daniel Jones deal
Speaker 1: to take care of you tag Daniel Jones, you let
Speaker 1: Barkley go to free agency, and another team in your
Speaker 1: mind overpays, and then you trade the fifty seventh overall pick.
Speaker 1: Maybe you can make it a third round pick. Let's
Speaker 1: see what's going on, and you get Derrick Henry the
Speaker 1: final year of his deal in I believe is his
Speaker 1: age twenty nine season, and you can then figure out
Speaker 1: if you want to keep him around beyond this upcoming season.
Speaker 1: So you keep Daniel Jones. You can decide whether sa
Speaker 1: Quon Henry is at a wash is it one way
Speaker 1: or the other? But you still have a big time
Speaker 1: running back for a team that loves to run the ball,
Speaker 1: and you don't have to give sa Quon a deal
Speaker 1: that you don't feel comfortable with. It's essentially like giving
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry the franchise tag. Instead of give up a
Speaker 1: third round pick. You franchise one year, ten million dollars,
Speaker 1: which is a fine rate for Derrick Henry. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely you get a good player for for
Speaker 1: a great value. My question would be, if you need
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry as you needed Saquon Barkley, but why not
Speaker 1: just tag sa Quan if you have to have a
Speaker 1: generational running back because you don't want you. You don't
Speaker 1: want to give a one hundred and some odd million
Speaker 1: dollars to Daniel because you're not quite sure in that either.
Speaker 1: So it's going to be another Lamars if you don't
Speaker 1: want the quarterback, just let him go, right I do.
Speaker 1: Lamar and Daniel Jones are very different cases, though, well
Speaker 1: they could be making me exactly they might actually pay
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I was thinking about that that Daniel, there's
Speaker 1: at least a chance Daniel Jones, Gino Smith, and Lamar
Speaker 1: are all making the same amount of money next year.
Speaker 1: If you had told me like a year ago, would
Speaker 1: have blown my mind that that would be a wild move.
Speaker 1: I think about timelines with them. Are they thinking they
Speaker 1: are trying to win right now because that that is
Speaker 1: sort of just played in the divisional playoffs, and whether
Speaker 1: or not we take them seriously. I'm sure they feel
Speaker 1: they're gonna be ready to contend in the NFC next year,
Speaker 1: and it's a It's an aggressive move, but one that
Speaker 1: I think doesn't set them back it's not a huge
Speaker 1: gambit in terms of giving up the future to get
Speaker 1: better in the present. Um, I think they're gonna have
Speaker 1: who's who's on that roster running back behind right now?
Speaker 1: Very right well, he was there, They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: put it this way. If sa Quan's not there, they're
Speaker 1: either gonna have to go get somebody or draft a
Speaker 1: guy uh in the first couple of rounds. I would
Speaker 1: think that they could feel good about running the football,
Speaker 1: but they have to address running back. And maybe this
Speaker 1: is the Maybe this is all a bunch of bunk
Speaker 1: by me because they're just gonna bring back because they
Speaker 1: have the guy already, But maybe it's not. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid a lot of money, say gun Barkley,
Speaker 1: and I do think they'd be looking maybe to go cheaper,
Speaker 1: but that might be using a second or a third
Speaker 1: round pick at running back. Interesting. I think Henry would
Speaker 1: be a fun uh in a very realistic can't see
Speaker 1: him that, can't quite see him with the Giants this year,
Speaker 1: but I could see him getting traded. Is it Grave Digger?
Speaker 1: Are you given what we what just happened with the
Speaker 1: Titans and where they are organizationally, like, this isn't this?
Speaker 1: This is the time to move a twenty nine year
Speaker 1: old running back with ninety seven thousand miles on the odometer.
Speaker 1: It's time, right, It's It's not like his value is
Speaker 1: going to get higher from here. He has a sixteen
Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit win the super Bowl next year,
Speaker 1: justin I don't think the Titans are winning the super
Speaker 1: Bowl this So why would you have a nearly thirty
Speaker 1: year old running back with trade value? Because he could
Speaker 1: eventually be the franchises all time leading rusher and it's
Speaker 1: kind of cool to have him playing with one team
Speaker 1: and maybe people in Tennessee like to watch Derek is true,
Speaker 1: But that's all very nice, I agree, but it's not.
Speaker 1: But it's a business. Business, Yeah, yeah, I would love
Speaker 1: that they would save seven million against the cap if
Speaker 1: they move. It's our money, right, well, and there is
Speaker 1: a point where it's good business to have a team
Speaker 1: that doesn't alienate your fan base. And they could blow
Speaker 1: it all up, get rid of Tannehill and Henry and
Speaker 1: they might, but that that has its own risk to it,
Speaker 1: as they alienated the fan base and they traded a J. Brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your fans like well, lose interest in you for two
Speaker 1: or three. I wouldn't be upset if the Titans had
Speaker 1: to go through a miserable two and fifteen season to
Speaker 1: get the number one overall pick next year when Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams is coming out. Just throwing that out there, But
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Titans, like Mike rabel is
Speaker 1: not a coach who's like, yeah, let's just do a
Speaker 1: year of losing. That sounds fun, Like that's not how
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem. So can I throw out one more?
Speaker 1: I know we're it's spicy, wait, but can I just
Speaker 1: just put a bow on that? So? Do you? And
Speaker 1: what Patrick's saying is, certainly there's merit to it, like
Speaker 1: the idea that he's one of the greatest Titans ever
Speaker 1: set every record, give him the statue, retires a Titan.
Speaker 1: But in terms of the short and long term interests
Speaker 1: of the team, do you want him on the team
Speaker 1: week one? I think the Titans, if they can trade
Speaker 1: Henry for a second round pick, they should do that.
Speaker 1: But it's also the same team that like locked Steve
Speaker 1: McNair out of the building in what like two thousand
Speaker 1: and three or whatever, and then he went and signed
Speaker 1: for with the Ravens, who was in a huge rival
Speaker 1: at the time, totally different ownership management and everything. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think home for the Cowboys. Cut Zeke, don't
Speaker 1: resign Pollard Henry to the Cowboys. I see him going
Speaker 1: to Yeah, an interesting if they Cincinnati cut Joe Mixon,
Speaker 1: get Derrick Henry weird, All right, go ahead, Okay, sorry.
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, who I really do think is gonna get traded.
Speaker 1: So does he to the Patriots for the number fourteen
Speaker 1: overall pick and Kendrick Bourne. I mean he's under contract.
Speaker 1: I think he's a useful player. I think he's better
Speaker 1: than what the Patriots have shown him to be, so
Speaker 1: you might as well throw him. And Ramsey's not gonna
Speaker 1: cost as much as he was to get in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: But man, doesn't he feel that that Stefan Gilmore, big,
Speaker 1: physical Taiwah type of cornerback sort of at a discount.
Speaker 1: This is when Bill likes to swoop in. It does.
Speaker 1: It does make a whole lot of sense, and it
Speaker 1: feels like it's gonna happen. Now. Yes, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey in the Patriots uniform. Everybody's gonna it's like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, we we slept on him because he got
Speaker 1: beat those five or six times. But this guy's actually
Speaker 1: had a pretty good season fourteen overall. I think actually
Speaker 1: could get it done potentially. Who pooped on Detroit and
Speaker 1: said why would you go from LA to Detroit? Who
Speaker 1: said that? Uh? When the Jalen Ramsey, Michael Parsons, Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons like, why would you go for La to Foxborough
Speaker 1: in a non Tom Brady era? Well, in this case,
Speaker 1: he doesn't on some level doesn't have a choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he signed a nice sexist franchise in modern times. No,
Speaker 1: but uh, he signed a big, big contract. Maybe you
Speaker 1: have to give him a little extra. But he's doe
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars this year. That's the thing with these
Speaker 1: long contracts is they become very tradeable and you might
Speaker 1: be incentivized to give him a little short term bump
Speaker 1: to make him happy. But his next three years he
Speaker 1: is only due forty six million dollars, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: a great contract. That's that's uh, the contract that Carlton
Speaker 1: Davis got essentially last year. They're probably gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I can be good. I kind of don't get why
Speaker 1: the Rams feel like they have to. But I get
Speaker 1: that they don't really have another avenue to get picks
Speaker 1: and they feel like they maybe need that. Now. I
Speaker 1: know you said Patrick that you know he got beat
Speaker 1: seven times, but he's actually still great. The Rams are
Speaker 1: interest did in trading him. Maybe they some of their
Speaker 1: self scouting is like, maybe it's time to get out
Speaker 1: before we can't get out on this one. Well, the
Speaker 1: thing is, I think Jalen Ramsey has extra years that
Speaker 1: we may not con because he may not be playing
Speaker 1: corner for the rest of his career, Like he's gonna
Speaker 1: make that transition at some point, and I think that's yeah.
Speaker 1: I could picture Jalen Ramsey orchestrating a trade and being
Speaker 1: on the Dolphins or something. I feel like he would
Speaker 1: seems like a guy would like Miami. I don't know,
Speaker 1: the cold weather. Jalen's kind of a Hollywood dude to me.
Speaker 1: I think I just see him in that Darrell Reeves
Speaker 1: one year in New England, Stefan Gilmour. It's just like that,
Speaker 1: that's what Bill likes. I'm just thinking Bill's type likes
Speaker 1: the big physical as veteran guys. Yeah, to get rings,
Speaker 1: that's not who the Patriots are anywhere. They don't have
Speaker 1: that s more in terms of free agency and in
Speaker 1: the trade market. If these guys control where they go,
Speaker 1: a little bit fair. But the Gregg's point, Jalen doesn't
Speaker 1: really have a choice in this. In this aspect, he's
Speaker 1: he can control. He's got ways of doing things. Remember
Speaker 1: how he got from the Jacksonville, LA. That's fair because
Speaker 1: he pulled up in the Brinks truck at training camp.
Speaker 1: He said, I would like to be compensated, and Tom
Speaker 1: Coffin was like no, and he got He got everything
Speaker 1: he wanted. I think Jayalen will get what he wants.
Speaker 1: Sneaky twenty nine. I don't know why. I'm surprised that
Speaker 1: he's been around a while though, old Tom Hall of Famer. Yeah, now,
Speaker 1: neither couple. I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't know about
Speaker 1: the now thing. But let's say he doesn't make any
Speaker 1: more All pros in his career. He already has more
Speaker 1: All pros than some cornerbacks in the do you he's
Speaker 1: so you're saying he's his salaries manageable? Is that where
Speaker 1: you think New England should be spending the bulk of
Speaker 1: their offseason money Their piggyback or should it be ho.
Speaker 1: He'd be a great pickup for most any team. There
Speaker 1: might be something and I don't know if it's for
Speaker 1: soonality or what it is that I just get the
Speaker 1: feeling that Jalen Ramsey helped the Rams get a championship,
Speaker 1: become a great defense and they feel like that relationship
Speaker 1: was great and that like that maybe it ran its
Speaker 1: course for whatever reason, because otherwise I don't understand why
Speaker 1: they would trade him. He still seems like he's playing
Speaker 1: at a high level. Three team, first time, first team
Speaker 1: All Pro. That's that's a good start. The top headline
Speaker 1: on ESPN right now is out of the darkness Colan
Speaker 1: Rodgers exits Oregon facility. They just know that's gonna get love.
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Speaker 1: free agency presented by Toyota. Those are good ones. I think.
Speaker 1: I thought we did an excellent work today, and I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to, you know, naval gays on
Speaker 1: that level and pat ourselves on the back Barry Harrowood style.
Speaker 1: But I really do think all of those trades make
Speaker 1: sense and I would be surprised if not one of them.
Speaker 1: If we we go over whatever. I think one of
Speaker 1: those trades will happen in some capacity. That's why not
Speaker 1: just makes sense. They're also fun fun, They were fun,
Speaker 1: and that ray one because I don't like the picture.
Speaker 1: I think there's an irony also greggy to the tsunami,
Speaker 1: which is a horrific act of it. It's a little
Speaker 1: tricky for the brand Mother Nature, and yet it's so
Speaker 1: fun for us. The tsunami in the in the context
Speaker 1: of professional football transactions, is that interesting. It's crossed my
Speaker 1: mind when I send send out like a celebratory gift
Speaker 1: of an actual tsunami and then think this is there's
Speaker 1: something wrong here and it's a problem, but you don't
Speaker 1: stop because it's good for the brand. I might stop
Speaker 1: now now that I've put this out there. I had
Speaker 1: to google Barry Horror. But a wave is a fundamental partial.
Speaker 1: It's one of the great Jewish wrestlers of all times.
Speaker 1: Had never heard of him, but uh, I think he
Speaker 1: actually had to start off dad on his shorts like
Speaker 1: he was or a necklace. He was like one of
Speaker 1: the great Um Hammond Eggers of the eighties and early nineties.
Speaker 1: He was he was always defeated, but he kind of
Speaker 1: had a little swag to him. Um and the real
Speaker 1: ones know what I'm talking about. Harrowitz, All right, that's it, Patrick,
Speaker 1: You've done beautiful work with us. Thank you, Thank you. Guys.
Speaker 1: Are you going to sleep now? How does it work?
Speaker 1: Absolutely in moments. We'll be back next week, combine week
Speaker 1: with Mark Sessler joining us again. Until then, he lookal