1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. It's curious if they're allowed 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: to make fun of JJ Watt's clothing line. Now, oh boy, 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: too soon, Now I'm afraid from the Chris Westling podcast studio, 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: it's around the NFL. I am Dan hanssh That one's 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: from the archive. Cost us a trip to London, two story, Um, 6 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Dan hands us here Greg Rosenthal and it's that laugh 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 1: the great Patrick Claibon back in the studio with us, 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Buddy and back uh in this studio, but in this 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: building since three am. So we respect you and I 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: am thankful. Well, no, I finally I would I could have. 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: I would have come into here on an off day. 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: I would have come into and off day. And you've 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: done any time with you guys, I have and I 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: will again. One of the great, one of the great 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: satellite heroes. Patrick Claibon. Well, you have this great crew. Um. 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I love the off season. I love how we were 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: able to do it with the Friday show this year 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: with Patrick involved and I and and this it's it's notable, 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Greggy that so much change around us through the years. Yeah, 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: we have this nice core. It makes me comfortable personally. 21 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: I like it. I do think about that, because there's 22 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: been a lot of turnover at this company, right, but 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: you would, you would look around us. The people were 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: closest too for the most part. Pat you know, we've 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: all been we've been here a while now ten years. 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: It's a testament to you guys. Ten plus for twelve. 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, Yeah, a lot going on, well 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: actually not a ton going on right now from when 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: we last um spoke with you on Tuesday. But we'll 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: get caught up on the news and we'll do some 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna throw out some trades because Greg, the trades 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: tsunami could be ready to crash. I think it's coming. 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: Not enough good free agents, so I think you can 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: get some good players via trade, right, and we're having 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: it with some urgency. We're doing it on today's show 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: because it could happen now. There could be an announcement 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: now during the show of a trade all through next week. 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Speaking next week, we're gonna have some good stuff. We 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: have Greggy's top one on one free agents. Bang. We're 40 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna go around the AFC and around the NFC. Bang. Bang. 41 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: That's a big week. Is that combine week? We have 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: the Combine I think we were doing around AFC NFC 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: the following week. Yeah, it's all coming up. That's fine, 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: close enough. Before we get into the news. Hey, I 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: want to talk about Dom dom Capers. Let's just start here. 46 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: That's what everyone's talking about. It kind of is yesterday. 47 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: Dom Caper was Dom Capers, who was the first head 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: coach ever of the Carolina Panthers when they joined the 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: NFL in nineteen ninety five. I believe he was introduced 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: as the senior defensive assistant, where he will be working 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: scouting opponents and doing works work behind the scenes with 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator A giro Evarro. Evera, we talked about this 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: seven minutes. There's so many different pronunciation GUIDs. It meant 54 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: so much to me to stick the landing on that one, 55 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: and I blew it. I'll trust Greg, all right, I don't. 56 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm just reading off the two thousand and seventeen through 57 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty RAMS pronunciation guide And I just 58 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: want to say I have a take on the press 59 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: conference for Dom. He's seventy two years old. He has 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: a certain follical strategy that he's using that would that 61 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: invited UM a lot of let's say criticism or bits 62 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: people had bits on twitterers, snickers h and I just 63 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: want to say, listen, Dom, hey man, it's his life. 64 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: He's taken the strategy uh with it's kind of a 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Lego esque Look, I'm not judging him for it. He 66 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: could do whatever he wants. He's seventy two, He's had 67 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: a great life. I have more of a take with 68 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: because when they bring out Dom the Panthers to speak 69 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: with the media, it's kind of a it's a cool 70 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: thing for the organization because there is this full circle 71 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: nature to it, and he's this guy that obviously has 72 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: connections with the city and the media and obviously the team. 73 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: And yet when he does his press conference and speaking 74 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: from the heart about his career and where it is 75 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: and where it is now, nobody's talking about that. Everybody's 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: talking about his hair. And it did make me think 77 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: about as another example, Ben McAdoo. Remember when he got 78 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: the Giant's job and he lost a bunch of weight 79 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: before he got the job, probably as part of to 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: look good to get a job. But he didn't have 81 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: a new suit, so he had the oversized David Byrne 82 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 1: talking head suit that he wore at the press conference, 83 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: and it kind of made him a bit of a 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: laughing stock after that. My take on this is, this 85 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: is a big business. These are billion dollars franchises. Let's 86 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: get a stylist involved. Let's protect these guys a little 87 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: bit because they're football coaches, you know, and especially the 88 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: senior ones. Let's for Dom as an example. Let's put 89 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: a hat on Dom and be like, Tom, we're gonna 90 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: work with you on this, and we're gonna get this 91 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: in a different place by the time we're doing pressors 92 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: at OTA's just work with us and let us take 93 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: care of this, because otherwise you're gonna have people talking 94 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: about you in a way you don't want them to 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: talk about you. Same thing with Macdo you're in the 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: New York Giants, you're a Tiffany franchise. Somebody's got to 97 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: see what the suit looks like, and somebody's got to 98 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: give him a tailored suit. He represents the franchise. That's 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: my take. It's it's an interesting take. Thank you, Hi. 100 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: You guys know me, I'm pretty anti fashion. My number 101 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: one fashion take is it doesn't matter, Oh do you 102 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: have a nice cable? You know, it's a little annoyed 103 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: because you're such a tremendously handsome fellow that you could 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: put on anything and you look good. Some of us 105 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: have to work a lot harder just to look decent. 106 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: But I just want to say there's some subtexts argument 107 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: by Dan, but ultimately, as you said at the start, 108 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: Don should wear whatever he wants. He can take whatever 109 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: follicle strategy. I'm the line is very crispy and we 110 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: should all aspire to that. Okay, I can't get there anymore, 111 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: but but Dom is right there. We've been mcadoo's suits. 112 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: If people maybe would have trusted that he made through 113 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: the right decision, as Greg Rosenthal said at the time, 114 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: by putting Eli on the bench and putting in if 115 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: if changing suits would have made people respect that decision more, 116 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: then net problem is on the people. It's not on 117 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo should wear whatever he wants. Don could have 118 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: his hair or however wants. None of it actually matters. 119 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: It's all just vibes. We should evaluate people on what 120 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: they do. So Don has been wearing that hair style 121 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: for a long time, as long as I've seen him. Yeah, 122 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: it's called it. I call it horizontal and tight, right, 123 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: it looks it looks like it's lined up essentially. But 124 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: I covered the Packers during the twenty ten Super Bowl 125 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: against the Steelers. It was like on the beat where 126 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: I was covering them each day that week, and I 127 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: made it my business to get as close as I 128 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: could to his hair. Sure, many times you want to 129 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: smell it, just to like see what was going on, 130 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: And it all looked very like. I didn't see any Uh, 131 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: you think it was natural. You're saying I don't think 132 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: it was because it makes no sense, But you weren't 133 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: seeing any thing that would indicate that it wasn't like 134 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: it looked better is what I was really wanted to 135 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: get to and more lifelike in person, like a few 136 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: inches away from it. So maybe his wife likes it. Yeah, 137 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: and just and so if people are curious because I 138 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: know I talk about my hair, other people talk about 139 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: my hair, um that if I was the stylist, it's true, 140 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: the follicle stylist of the Carolina Panthers. When you saw 141 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Dom Capers at OTA's, he looked like freaking Elvis the 142 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight Comeback special. It would be people would 143 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: be talking about him in a totally different way. So 144 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: give him a chance to be a hero in that sense. 145 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: What a staff though that Frank Cranks put together. When 146 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: I was mentioned all those wild names last show, I 147 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: didn't even mention old old m seventy two years young. 148 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: Let's do some news. I don't know what you mean, 149 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: but it's Zaddi. Yeah, I don't know what. Nobody's underdog. 150 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: That's my man's right there, CD Lamb on around the 151 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: NFL Live from the Super Bowl. Uh, a couple of 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: weeks back. Now he might come up a little bit 153 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: later in conversation. Um, but starting now, let's uh, you know, 154 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: check in with our producer Justin Graver, who was trapped 155 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: behind a parking gate earlier this morning and he had 156 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: still found a way to get here on time for 157 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: the taping. Um, your Tennessee Titans. Obviously they made that 158 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: runs few years, got close to the Bowl, never quite 159 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: made it, and now it's time to let's see reload, rebuild, retool. 160 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: The Titans released Robert Woods, one and done wide receiver. 161 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: He was disappointing with them this past season, although issues 162 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback an offensive line certainly didn't help anyone on 163 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: that offense. Taylor Luan who was a mainstay on that 164 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: offensive line for years, and it appears he has headed 165 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: potentially toward retirement. Zack Cunningham and even Big Bone Randy 166 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: Bullock their kicker, all released as the Titans transition into 167 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: a new phase of the organization. Still unclear what's going 168 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: to happen with Ryan Tannehill, also Derrick Henry, who I 169 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: whope maybe comes up later in this episode. Your thoughts, 170 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: justin Graver. Titans were like twenty three twenty five million 171 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: dollars over the cap something like that before these moves, 172 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: and now they're about four million dollars under the cap. 173 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: So I think most Titans fans who have been following 174 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: along knew these cuts were coming. A lot of people 175 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: still waiting to find out if Bud Dupree will be released. 176 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: There was also reports that Zach Cunningham was released the linebackers, 177 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: so I mentioned, Oh yes, that's all good. Sorry, Sorry 178 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: you were stuck behind a cage for hours. That was 179 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: really fun trying to leave my apartment this morning and 180 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: the garage gate doesn't open anyway. So yeah, these moves 181 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of they were like Titans fans expected them, but 182 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: still creates a whole left tackle you had to back 183 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: up playing there all last season. Who's also going to 184 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: be a free agent and wide receiver one of the 185 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: weaker groups in the league, probably looking to draft somebody there. 186 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: Don't trade for a thirty year old wide receivers coming 187 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: off major injuries. NFL teams, I think that would be 188 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: the Titans have done it two years in a row, 189 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Julio Jones and Robert Woods, and it didn't really work out. 190 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: The Woods was a trade. I sort of forgot that, yeah, 191 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: and he like requested apparently Tennessee was what if they 192 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: give up for him? I think it was a fourth 193 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: round pick, not bad, but then he tweeted immediately free 194 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: yesterday and apparently there's like reports that he and Mike 195 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: Vrabel kind of clashed. So I don't know what to 196 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: make of. That's a tough season, Yeah, Tennessee, you can 197 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: make the case they had a whole at left tackle 198 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: when Luan was there as well well. He was struggling 199 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: and injured. That contract they gave him ended up being 200 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of a disaster just because he got 201 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: hurt so much. I don't know whether I should put 202 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: him on the top one to one maybe at the 203 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: very end. I don't know. He hasn't been able to 204 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: stay on the field, but Ran Carthon has a lot 205 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: to do. Their new their new GM. This is a 206 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: rebuilding team, even though they have the same head coach, 207 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: like they are starting from scratch, almost as much as 208 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: any team in the league. I wonder if one, oh, 209 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: don't oh, that's if you show anyone, they will take 210 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: a finger comes out a picture. Um. Yeah, Luan's only 211 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: thirty one. UM. He has a peed suspension on his ledger. Um. 212 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: He tore his ACL in Week five of twenty twenty, 213 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: suffered another season ending n the injuries, you know, just 214 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: two games into this past season. So he's played only 215 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: twenty games UM in the past three years. I did 216 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: read somewhere that retirement was a real possibility for him. 217 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: Has a successful podcast. He said on his podcast this 218 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: week that his knee is still not right, that he 219 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: still said he needs to get the juice in his knee, 220 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: and he also said that he would rather retire than 221 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: go to a AFC South team that's not the Titans. Okay, 222 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: we've got some breaking news coming up here. The juice 223 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: in or out of his knee right. Based on this situation, Graver, 224 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: hit it, hit it. Oh, this could be a great 225 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: synchronization based on those juice comments that Justin Graver just 226 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: gave me. I am now removing Taylor law from the 227 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: top one on one. Patrick can see me doing it. 228 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: He technically was at one on four, but he would 229 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: have gotten in there eventually. That is if horrendous use 230 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: of the breaking news drop. This is I just wanted 231 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: to let people if you can't be responsible with the drop, Greggy, 232 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna about to say that, like 233 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: Ian was reporting, there's retiring. I mean, sometimes you gotta, 234 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, I use the drop as a comedic element. 235 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: I will make the case that Greg making the announcement 236 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: about Taylor Lawan's not placement on the one on one 237 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: is more important news than his retirement. Okay, wow, I 238 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: just s I heard that the juice when he needed 239 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: the bore juice that you gotta get off the list 240 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: does have a PD suspension, So maybe the juice is 241 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: maybe the juice needs to be loose, all right, I 242 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: think that the breaking news drop is sacred personally, but 243 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: agree to disagree on that one. In other news and 244 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Big Bone Randy times, they are changing titans EATA kicker. 245 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: The Broncos bring back Vance Joseph after a series of 246 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: interviews helmed by Sean Payton, the new head coach in Denver. 247 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: He goes with Vance Joseph, who has obvious history with 248 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: the never Broncos. He was once their head coach and 249 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: now he's back in the DC position. Other notable names 250 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Patrick viewed for the job, including Rex Ryan, who's probably 251 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: a little bit annoyed Rex as someone who followed Rex 252 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: very closely. Obviously, he went from you know, top of 253 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: the world head coach to now he can't even land 254 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: a DC job. So I guess back to ESPN with him, 255 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: maybe he'll get back on the campaign trail. He had 256 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: a lot of success with wait Kit before we moved 257 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: from Rex. Can I make one little point when these 258 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: reports come out whenever Rex kind of does anything that 259 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: he's like a really strong candidate in Denver and this 260 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: that and the does he think like being such a 261 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: media funnel as helping him? I don't think it's helping him. 262 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that's not why Sean Payton didn't hire him. But 263 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: anytime Rex Ryan gets any little interest from the NFL, 264 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: there's like four different reporters that's like, looks like Rex 265 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: Ryan is getting this job, and it's like that almost 266 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: immediately lets the coach know, like, oh, this is gonna 267 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: be kind of a headache. Having Rex Ryan is the 268 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: never a lot of sense to me, Like it didn't 269 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: feel like Sean Payton and Rex Ryan for whatever reason, 270 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: felt like a good match. And I also thought, like 271 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: worked under it. Yeah, maybe it's for a while. Maybe 272 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: it was a favorite to Rob that maybe that was 273 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: a um but Rex. I also thought Rex would never 274 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: go back um on the sideline if he wasn't a 275 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: head coach, and he's probably not going to ever get 276 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: a head coach job again. So it surprise me that 277 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: he was even doing that and didn't work out. But 278 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph is there in that position justin. Graver listens 279 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: to our shows so closely that he was upset that Mark, 280 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: our good friend right out this week, was not here 281 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: so that Mark could capitalize on a long standing take 282 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: that they should bring Vance Joseph back as a defensive coordinator, 283 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: a take that Dan and I had no recollection of 284 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: a longstanding That's what Graver said that he had been 285 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: saying that all season, said it a few times. I 286 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: hope I am remembering that correctly, because now I'm a 287 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: good job by you. I wouldn't trust these you definitely 288 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: listen to That's how we have so many shows, so 289 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: many takes. Uh, justin. I hope you're right on that one, 290 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: because the listeners really having the time of my life. 291 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: The listeners will hold you to it. Uh. Let's see 292 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: how much they've changed in Denver by the way, Like 293 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, oh, that's weird. He's going back 294 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: to the place he was just fired. But there's a 295 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: different owner, a different head coach. Nothing is the same. 296 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has left his Darkness Retreat. I'm about that. 297 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Scott Burman, who owns Skycave Retreats, said Rogers left the 298 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: dark room and the facility on Wednesday. Rogers, of course, 299 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: is at the center of the offseason scuttle butt. He 300 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: is under contract with the Packers for nearly sixty million 301 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed if he plays in twenty twenty three, but there 302 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: is a lot of speculation that perhaps his time with 303 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: Green Bays over even if he continues to play football. 304 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: We shall see. Um. I thought, I don't know why 305 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: I when I saw this update first it's funny that 306 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: reporters are calling around to different darkness retreats they find 307 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: the one Aaron Rodgers is out and good reporting by 308 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: the people involved. Um. But also I was a little 309 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: bit I thought that Aaron Rodgers would be more organic 310 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: than that. I thought he would find his own cave 311 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: and be in the darkness in a very pure, non 312 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: commercial way. So the fact that he went to sky 313 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: Cave Retreats, that just that makes me think maybe I 314 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: want Derek Carr on the jets instead. That's it. That's it. 315 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: I think that's February twenty twenty three. The Skycave Retreats 316 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: bothers me. It seems you said you had a take 317 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: on this story. You almost didn't discuss it, and this 318 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: is quite a take. I thought, Yeah, I thought it 319 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: was something a little more crunchy, given um, the path 320 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: he's taken in life. This is you wanted him to 321 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: go kind of yeah. I wanted it to be something 322 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: like an eternal journey that he went on deep into 323 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: like the woods. The fact that he just googled darkness 324 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: retreats and then got on a private jet and went 325 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: to this place and then stayed for a couple of 326 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: you gotta have the person to drop the food into 327 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: the hole or whatever. It's more than just darkness. You're 328 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: embracing the energy of the universe. This is right for 329 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: like seventeen hundred dollars an hour. Yeah, because you have 330 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: to have a trained professional. You can't just have any darkness. 331 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: You can't just go because you just only like a 332 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: three hundred square feet though. That's pretty hardcore. Yeah, So 333 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: that that that did bother me, that that it wasn't official. Um, 334 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: I might have a similar situation going on because movers 335 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: arrive tomorrow. Uh in I'm moving, but we had ordered 336 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: a new bed for the new place and it hasn't 337 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: arrived yet, and I still have the old place until 338 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: the end of the month. And I think so I 339 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: might stay in the old place in the old bed 340 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: because there's nowhere to sleep in the new bed. But 341 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: just bas no, we have like five more days, so 342 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: I think that is going to be my five day 343 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: darkness retreat in my old house. You could foil the 344 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: windows in the empty house and then sell it as 345 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: a darkness retreat, all right. You just put some astrological 346 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: information up there and people will flock to it. I um, 347 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: when I was living on the Upper West Side in 348 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: New York. They it was this old building. It was 349 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: a fifth floor walk up, and loved living there was 350 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: a great place eighty second in Amsterdam. And as happens, 351 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: especially in New York, but especially in that area, it 352 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: was decided that it was going to be sold to 353 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: a developer who would turn it into a luxury condominium. 354 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: So we got booted out of the place, and I 355 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: was working at MLB dot com on the southern end 356 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: of Manhattan, and there I didn't really have a place 357 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: to live for like a couple of months, so I 358 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: had spent a lot of time at my buddies Bob's 359 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. But sometimes when I didn't want to go 360 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: through that, I would just like go up to the 361 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: old apartment that was still everything was still there, and 362 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: I just the key still worked, and I just slept 363 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: on the couch. Multiple times months after our lease had 364 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: lapsed and the entire building was empty. It was a 365 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: little scary, to be honest with you, but I could 366 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: steal Wi Fi from an apartment across the way, and 367 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: there was enough light coming in because there were no 368 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: blinds that it wasn't a darkness retreat. And that was 369 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: a nice little life pack for the old zuser in Manhattan. 370 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: I would argue you were morally obligated to do that, 371 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: considering that they free the option and put you on 372 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: the street. I like that that was the only way 373 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: to go. It's a lot of sleeping in strange place 374 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: content today. Before the show too, Patrick talked about how 375 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: occasionally at the old NFL building he set up a mattress, 376 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: an air mattress when he had the three am shift. Yeah, 377 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 1: when you can. You have a small child at home, 378 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: not a lot of sleep there, when you can. And finally, 379 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: net Netflix announces a QB series. What's it called Grave Diggers? 380 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: It called Quarterback. Yes see. I kind of like that. 381 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: It's just like, we're not fusing around here. It's Quarterback, um, 382 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: and we'll focus on the lives and careers of quarterbacks. 383 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, that's a pretty good get for the series. 384 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, that's kind of a great get for people 385 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: that find that guy interesting. Uh I do. I honestly 386 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: find Kirk Cousins interesting. Not that he he's an interesting guy, right, 387 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: this is what makes him tick? What is up with Kirk? 388 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna get to I don't know. 389 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: I feel like he's I don't The less I know, 390 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: the better. I feel like, keep the mystery around Kirk. Well, okay, 391 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: and I want to see like the Kirk Cousins who 392 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: did a gender reveal and almost missed the target. Like, 393 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: I want to see what's going on at Cousins mansion. Anyway, 394 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: Netflix is doing that series, and I like that. I 395 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: love quarterbacks and getting behind the scenes. Look, especially with 396 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: mahomes about give it to Me. I will be curious 397 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: to see how they handle the Mariota getting benched and 398 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: then leaving the team because waiting mid season for the 399 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: birth of his daughter. Wait, did they I don't know 400 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: enough about the series, so it's covering him across the season. Yeah, 401 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: oh okay, great, it's pretty good too. I'm all about 402 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: streaming services doing football content. Get at me, hit me up, 403 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: connect with Patrick Clay. They have they have a similar 404 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: ish tennis one. They had the f one. Now they 405 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: have a tennis one and it's it's up and down. 406 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: It took out a few episodes to get going. I 407 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: thought it was great. Did you watch it? I love streaming. Yeah, 408 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: the mega watts smile hire this man. Let's take a 409 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: break and we will pitch some trades. All right, mind, 410 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: it's time for Navigating Trades and Free Agency, presented by Toyota. Uh. Greg, 411 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: it is the I just heard um. I checked with 412 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: the Associated Press. This is the fifth anniversary of your 413 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: Trade Tsunami column. Uh. And obviously it's take on a 414 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: life of its own in the years since it's it's 415 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: it's it's washed over the mainstream. At this point, it's 416 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: only picked up. Unfortunately, like a lot of climate change, 417 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: like it just gets worse and worse the trades last season. 418 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: At this point it's out of my control. Trade Tsunami 419 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: lives bigger than me. And I'd love the NFL is 420 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: embracing this, you know, embracing the chaos. Yeah, it makes 421 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: it more fun to follow in the off season Fox Show, 422 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: including when the actual deadline is come around Halloween every year, 423 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: it just you know, big names will be moving. So 424 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: this will be an opportunity for us to throw out 425 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: some trades. And just to be clear, these are going 426 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: to be trades that we believe can happen. These are 427 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: trades that have they're rooted in a realistic nature. Okay, 428 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: the rooted. I'm searching for the word. I can't find it. 429 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw to Patrick to get us going. 430 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: And when I do think of the word, I will 431 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,199 Speaker 1: probably interrupt you. But rooted in go ahead, all right? 432 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: So the first trade, and I'm glad that I'm going first, 433 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: because you guys are probably going to think about this. 434 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons send pick number one oh eight, excuse me, 435 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: one oh nine, pick number eight, a twenty twenty three 436 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: first rounder in a conditional twenty twenty four first round pick, 437 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: to the Baltimore Ravens in exchange for the Lamar Demitrius Sho. 438 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: You came off the top roup to begin with. Wait, 439 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: you have to re read the so I need to 440 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: hear it. Those Let's start the present with Lamar, the 441 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: top ten pick rooted in reality. He was the word 442 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: you were looking at A well, not really bad. I 443 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: don't think this is unrealistic. I don't think it's that unrealized. 444 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: That's an exercise, right, Yeah, No, it's got to be realistic. 445 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: Gotta be rooted in reality. And Lamar Jackson getting traded, 446 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: as we talked about Tuesday, certainly can have It's the 447 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: number eight overall pick yep number eight overall one oh 448 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: nine overall. A first round pick one or nine is 449 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: a fourth rounder, yes, okay, another because they a first 450 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty four and a conditional first 451 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: round pick in twenty twenty five. Sorry four conditional first 452 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: rounder in twenty five tied to performance or playing time 453 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: or what do we We'll figure out the concussions. It's 454 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: just important. It's the first round pick. Yeah. I had 455 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: to throw in an extra first because there were the 456 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: two first for Russell Wilson. Lamar clearly a younger player. 457 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: You can't think it's tough to think of a precedent 458 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: for a player at this position, at this age. Lamar 459 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: younger than Joe Burrow. It's like, considering the things that 460 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: he's done and things that he can do well. Deshaun 461 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: Watson got three first a third, and essentially a late 462 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: round trade up, and so you would think that's the 463 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: starting point. It's kind of like the whole Deshaun Watson 464 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: negotiations is getting in the way of of Lamar in general. 465 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: I mean, because I know that's like we look back 466 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: at what Steve Bashadi said last year and it's like, 467 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: oh and everybody's reaction to the Watson contract was well 468 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: that this puts Baltimore into tough position. What put them 469 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: in a tough position was not paying Lamar Jackson the 470 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: moment they had the opportunity, and what that signals to 471 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: me and the consecutive moments since then, is they don't 472 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: want to have Lamar on their team and pay him 473 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: what he's what he deserves. So let's just let's cut 474 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: with all this and like, oh, we want Lamar to 475 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: be here. If you did, you would have had him. 476 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: It's just like after the fact when Davante left Green Bay, 477 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: there was oh, well there was this offer and there 478 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: was that. No, it's just it's like you're saying in 479 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 1: terms of you're saying, it's not really something to connect 480 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: the dots on which I agree if you're if you 481 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: mean that they didn't get the deal done before last March, 482 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 1: because once that deal happens, it does connect well, I 483 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: think these quarterbacks, right, I agree, But Patrick has a 484 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: good point that ultimately I believe there are other teams 485 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: that value Lamar Jackson higher than the Baltimore Ravens do, 486 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: which is a little disappointing if you're Lamar Jackson that 487 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: there are many teams out there, and I think Atlanta 488 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: would be a perfect landing spot for him in terms 489 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: of what Arthur Smith likes to do, and I think 490 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: they would love it that would give him the fully 491 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: guaranteed contract, and that I think whether Steve Bashotti cares 492 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: about precedent or not, it doesn't. It doesn't matter. If 493 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: there's teams out there like the Jets, like the Falcons 494 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: that would happily give him a five year guaranteed contract, 495 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: then that's his value and that ultimately, like Lamar Jackson 496 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: can get that. I know, like the teams have players 497 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: over a barrel with these franchise tags, But I really 498 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: do think that Watson trade change things and that quarterbacks 499 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: are gonna get these types of contracts moving forward. UM. 500 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: Good one, Patrick, I like it. You are you are 501 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: the media entities number one Lamar Our fan, and you 502 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: like the idea of him getting a fresh start in 503 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: Atlanta as well. I just like the idea of people 504 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: getting paid what they deserve, and like it was less 505 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: than a year ago, Derek Carr signs this alleged one 506 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty one million dollar extension and that's all 507 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: of the headlines. Oh, one hundred twenty one million. He 508 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: got seven percent of one hundred twenty one million fired. Yeah, 509 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: And so like the reality of these things are is 510 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: we float these contract numbers. And of course Lamar and 511 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: his family and a lawyer are negotiating this deal. Where 512 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: is this request of a guaranteed contract even coming from? Right? 513 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: We don't know that for sure, and so I don't 514 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm just not sure that the Ravens have made an 515 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: offer that's aggressive enough for because if they did, I 516 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 1: don't think we'd be having this. There's been different reporting. 517 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: There was one report out there that said that guarantee 518 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: was around one hundred and thirty million, which would have 519 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: been significantly lower than Kyler Murray. I did. I mean 520 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: a Kimes' show this week, she mentioned hearing something that 521 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: it was more than Kyler Murray, but not fully guarantee. 522 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: And then if it's if it's getting that close, it's like, 523 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: just do it right, If you're that clote, if you're 524 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: willing to guarantee one hundred and eighty million, just just 525 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: go to two thirty Like what what are you holding 526 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: out for? Principal wise, I'm with you that how much? 527 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: How much do you think, uh, Lamar missing the end 528 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: of the last two seasons consecutively have led Baltimore to 529 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: maybe hesitate here, They've been hesitating before that. Yeah, I 530 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: don't think it has a huge factor. They were they 531 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: were hesitating because it was the same deal last year. 532 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: They weren't coming close to the contract last year, right, right, 533 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: but then it happened again. I'm just saying, if if 534 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: iriability issue questions about a mobile quarterback that you know, 535 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: if he's Taylor Lawana and he's not good when he's 536 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: on the field, then I think that's worthwhile discussion. But 537 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: whoever plays quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens is going to 538 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: be a human being who was capable of being injured. 539 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: And essentially most of these things did the luck. Did 540 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: you hear my pitch about a sports agency? Um? Last 541 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: day show? Um, not athletes first? People first? I like it. 542 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: Let's get people all right. Let me go next because 543 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: mine connects to yours because I have a quarterback in 544 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta as well. Oh wow, Um, but it's not Lamar. 545 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: This team would love Lamar the Falcons. But let's say 546 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: that is not an option. Um, you know, we gotta 547 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: get number three out of Denver. We gotta get him 548 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: out of there. We got an airlift number three. Did 549 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: you see by the way, that Tarique Woolen was just 550 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: doing a podcast and he said when he met Russell Wilson, 551 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 1: he was surprised by first out kind of how he 552 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: was short and stature in trigue will in six three. 553 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: But but he also said his body was like a 554 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: sack of potatoes. That was interesting to this dude just 555 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: got to the league. Everybody's taking and I was like, 556 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: Russ will I know Russell Wilson could take. You know, 557 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: has been taking a lot of fire, really his whole rear. 558 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: But now people are coming for him. His fitness. I 559 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: feel like that's the one thing you would never have 560 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: to worry about with Wilson, but he was described by 561 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: a rookie cornerback is a sack of potatoes. Anyway, I 562 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: feel for Russell Wilson. He does not seem like a 563 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: bad guy, and he's in a bad situation in Denver, 564 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, And now you have Sean Payton there, who 565 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: is as we talked about when the hire happened, he's 566 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: the boss there. Now he's in control of the situation. 567 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: This is no longer Russell Land. Remember Nathaniel Hackett's famous 568 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: line at the press conference, come on, y'all, Russell Wilson. 569 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: Holy very exciting. It's crazy how how recently that was 570 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: and things are so different now the Falcons, and this 571 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: connects with Patrick as well because one element of this. 572 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: Atlanta has the second highest amount of cap space in 573 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: the league right now fifty six million. Chicago, by the way, 574 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: is first with almost one hundred million in cap space. 575 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Keep an eye on them anyway. So we know, here's 576 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: the quick background that connects to Lamar as well as Russ. 577 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: That the Falcons, as we know, under Arthur Smith, it's 578 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: a run first offense. They play in a dome, they're 579 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: in a week division. It's an offensive minded head coach 580 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: who has a history of salvaging veteran quarterbacks. Ryan Tannehill 581 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: comes to mind. The Falcons are in QB purgatory with 582 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: no obvious in house option. You got Desmond Ritter, who 583 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: Mariota was a total mess and now is on Netflix. 584 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: Last offseason, they traded Matt Ryan to the Colts for 585 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: a third round pick. So let's try something similar here 586 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: with the Broncos. Russell Wilson to the Falcons for a 587 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: third round pick seventy fifth overall Escalators based on Wilson's play, 588 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: becomes a second round pick if Wilson plays seventy five 589 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: percent of snaps, first rounder if Wilson plays seventy five percent, 590 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: and the Falcons appear in the NFC title game, Fresh 591 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: start for all involved, and the Falcons maybe maybe have 592 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback. M This is a shocker. It's a gamblebviously 593 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: would be gamb especially at the gamble for Atlanta too 594 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: much is probably in the he's year three of a regime. Yeah, 595 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: got him, probably make the playoffs, and you're hitching your 596 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: wagon to Russ. But I think it's better than what 597 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: they have currently. It's it's a short side to me, 598 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: it's a short term solution. It's Denver just deciding we 599 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: kind of are punting on twenty twenty three, not punting 600 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: in the sense of like we're not going to try 601 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: to win we could. We think we can find a 602 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: very low cost quarterback that can play as well or 603 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: better than Russell Wilson, and we're gonna swallow, you know, 604 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: the biggest salary cap pain we've ever had, like any 605 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: team's ever had. I think it would be sixty million 606 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: dollars that Russell Wilson would be on their books, but 607 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: he'd be they'd be done with it. It'd be clean, 608 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: it would wash over the organization. If if internally they're like, 609 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: it's very similar to the Matt Ryan trade, because that 610 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: was sort of under the radar. The Falcons decided to 611 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: take incredible dead money pain just to kind of be 612 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: done with it, get of Matt Ryan and move forward. 613 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: And then the pick that they have to send to 614 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: me is almost incidental. I think they could probably like 615 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: if someone was willing to take Russell Wilson, they would 616 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: take whatever. If it's a third, if it's a fifth, 617 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: sure is for the Falcons. And that much of a 618 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: need to be to be out of this. I mean, 619 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: we saw the head coach go, Um, he's right back 620 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: doing doing what he does. Um, he's going to be 621 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: involved in calling plays and managing an offense and all 622 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: of those things. And so it's it's all Russ. It 623 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: just it took a collective effort for the offense to 624 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: be that bad. Right, you're saying they don't hate the 625 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: idea though, of like, we don't really see him as 626 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: the long term solution and that if anyone's willing to 627 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: give up anything, they would take him. It's interest like, 628 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: it's weird because any team that takes him on, people think, 629 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: oh wow, why would you even take on that contract. Actually, 630 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson will be one of the cheapest starting quarterbacks 631 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: in the league. He has base no base salary, and 632 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: he would be a one year kicking the tires commitment 633 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: where you're paying him, you know, less than what like 634 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston types are making. He makes eight million dollars 635 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: this year base salary, and you just see it's just 636 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: sort of a kicking the cans. It's it's free money, 637 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: free money for the Falcons. Let's do it, Broncos country. 638 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: Let's right. I like the Lamar move much better. I 639 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: want to see better. I mean, I just I don't 640 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: see any purpose in taking on Russell Wilson at the 641 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: at this point. But I get it from Denver's perspective. 642 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: I just want to see what new slogan he'll say 643 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: at the end of press conferences if he goes to 644 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: another team. I think he I think what we'll see 645 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: just the prediction. Sometimes self awareness is not a trait 646 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson tends to possess, but some of that 647 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: stuff is going to melt away. Now. I feel like 648 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: there was a very humbling twenty twenty two. I think 649 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: what changes is the people he's selling himself to, uh 650 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: and the people he's selling himself to and Denver are 651 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: fundamentally different than the ones that are in Atlanta and 652 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: um so I think it would it would change because 653 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: Russ Russ manages a brand and like all of these 654 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: guys do. Like Matt Ryan, like the discussion about like 655 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: how good he was and how happy he was with 656 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: being benched and how he was gonna help. It was like, no, 657 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was pissed off, but guaranteed seventeen million dollars 658 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: next year, by the way, so it's a little bit 659 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: of a it's a two year, twenty five million dollar commitment, 660 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,959 Speaker 1: so kind of a similar contract to one you would 661 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 1: give like a I don't even know who is Amid, 662 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: No one gets does It's not even Jameis Wins. Then 663 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: I guess would get like a two for twenty five 664 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: that he got from the Saints something like that. All right, 665 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: Greggy hit us, Greg all right, mine simple. DeAndre Hopkins 666 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: to Buffalo for the Bills's uh first round pick this year, 667 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: which I believe it's twenty nine. Okay, okay, interesting DeAndre 668 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: Hopkins Okay, he's thirty coming off the PD but did 669 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: perform when he came back last season. Bills, we all 670 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: talked about it. Have a need to add some more playmakers. 671 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: I like it. You say first round pick, Yeah, it's 672 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: a late pick that seems maybe a little rich. Do 673 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: you want to give up a first round pick? I 674 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: would say second, and maybe give back a fifth or something. 675 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: It's it's all about managing the window, though, and we 676 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: see how small that that window could be. And you 677 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: go from you know, asking the corpse of Cole Beasley 678 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: to come run some routes in the playoffs to putting 679 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: new Hopkins in the slot. Definitely to change, huge upgrade. 680 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: I love the fit because he doesn't have to be 681 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: the number one there. I don't think he's necessarily that 682 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: guy where the whole offense needs to revolve around him. 683 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: You have Stefan Diggs, Gabe Davis is a useful player, 684 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 1: but putting him one depth, you know, one spot down helps. 685 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: I don't think the twenty seventh overall pick and that 686 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: that's what it would be would be too much for him, 687 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: like this is not it's not just win now. But 688 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: I think that's totally appropriate value. You look at the 689 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: players they've drafted in general in the first round, and 690 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: I know, you get these rookie contracts and that's nice. 691 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: You have to play DeAndre Hopkins a lot more. But 692 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: it's it's been Tremaine Edmonds, it's been Greg Rousseau, which 693 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: worked out Ed Oliver like Kyrie Elam last year. This 694 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: is either at the end of the first round, these 695 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 1: aren't as great a premium pick, and I'm taking bird 696 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: in the hand, DeAndre Hopkins with that big arm at 697 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: Josh Allen throwing at seventy yards on the field. It's fun. 698 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: I would I would do it. I would do it 699 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: for the twenty seventh overall pick, but I would try 700 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: very hard to hold on to the pick and see 701 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: if I can get Yeah, I think the trade market 702 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: and I have another receiver trade coming. I think it'll 703 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: be aggressive because I think it'll cost that much, because 704 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: I think they'll be competition because there's so little available 705 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: in free agency at wide receiver. Mister Patrick laybal and 706 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: back to you, buddy, all right. I think I could 707 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: satisfy a couple of different with the alarm. Run for cover. 708 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: There's nowhere to run, there's nowhere. The sea is retreating. 709 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: What does that mean. It means there's a swell of 710 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: water on the way, and that water includes the Houston 711 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: Texans sending pick number four, pick number thirty five. Here 712 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: we go, pick number one hundred and five. There we go, 713 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: and Brandon cooks the Chicago Bears in exchange for the 714 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. Thank you Patrick for doing that. 715 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: We could not do this exercise without addressing the Bears 716 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. And you've done it. Can we 717 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: want to do it one more time? So I can 718 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: should have been four five or four thirty five and 719 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: one oh five and Brandon cooks. I needed to throw 720 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: in a player because I use the Rich Hill shout 721 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: out to Rich Hill trade value chart, which has been 722 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: almost identical to the trades that we've seen in the 723 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: past few years. And uh, those numbers get close to 724 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: working out for me in the Bear mean two overall. 725 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: Two overall Bears are the first overall pick right, oh whoops, 726 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: my bad? Yeah, and the since number two. So just 727 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: to move up one spot, you got to give up 728 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: all that. You got to be absolutely in love with 729 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: a quarterback that you can't risk not getting. Do we 730 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: have any insight that they are in love with somebody. 731 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: I just wanted Justin Fields to have a good receiver. Yeah, 732 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: I think Brandon Cooks Fields trade on this conversation now, 733 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: I think this is and I don't think a Justin 734 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: Fields trade is crazy for the Bearers to consider they 735 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: didn't draft him depending on what they can get. I 736 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: just don't think that's a crazy thing to like go 737 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: through the exercise he was on with Rich Eisen said 738 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: the only thing he would love in this scenario is transparency, 739 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: like toe from the team. Yeah, to hear from the 740 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: team like what they're thinking. He hasn't yet and I 741 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: don't I unfortunately don't think he will. It's an uncomfortable 742 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: thing that if they get a godfather offer they have 743 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: to think about everything. But to me, this is perfect 744 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: for them. You move only one spot down, you actually 745 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: still have the option of drafting quarterback there or entertaining 746 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: more likely trades for another quarterback moving up there. And 747 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that crazy for Houston to give 748 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: up all that because some other team will if they 749 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: don't Indianapolis will, or the Raiders will or the Panthers 750 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: will like it could happen. And what it does is 751 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: it exercises the Trubisky trade demons, and all of that 752 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: finally goes away and the Bears can be happy. I 753 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 1: mean that goes away until Patrick Mahomes retires. But I mean, imagine, 754 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: if you're the Bears, you get the number two overall pick, 755 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: and you get that second round back that you gave 756 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: up for Claypool, which maybe a mistake, you get Cooks. 757 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: It's it's amazing there. You could trade the Bears in, 758 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: you could keep accruing picks. It is really an amazing situation. 759 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: They found themselves in not being able to win games 760 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: last year. Remember Bears fans last offseason very upset about, 761 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: like I remember, they were my number one overall pick 762 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: when we did over unders taking the under for Bears, 763 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: very upset about that. They're upset with your power rankings 764 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: in this season, and yet UH, now they're in this 765 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: beautiful spot because they lived up. Um. I feel bad 766 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: for the UH and this is gonna be surprising to 767 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: some listeners, but I feel bad for the Jeremiah's of 768 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: the world. DJ you know, he's put out mock Draft 769 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 1: two point zero, and it's just you're in a tough 770 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: spot because the Bears are almost certainly going to trade 771 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: that pick, or it's very likely it happens, but they can't. 772 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: They don't want to a lot of these mock guys 773 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: don't want to mock trades this early. So you're stuck 774 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: giving giving the Bears Jalen Carter, the Georgia defensive tackle 775 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: um and then you have Bryce Young, according to DJ, 776 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: going to Houston with the number two pick. He calls 777 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: him the best quarterback in the class. Here's the here's 778 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: the dream scenario for the Bears. Let's say they do 779 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: trade out of one and it is to the Houston Texans. 780 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: And then let's say the Texans take the quarterback that 781 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: the Colts don't want, and then the Cults are gonna 782 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: have to come up to two at that point, and 783 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to entertain those discussions that they were 784 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: just having that weren't good enough, like what's the price 785 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: then to get to two. It could be it could 786 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: be all Bears. They could get three first round pick 787 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: value out of There is absolutely a scenario here, assuming 788 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: they want to keep justin fields. But even if they 789 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: would entertain the idea of trading him, the fact that 790 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: they're there and this is such a quarterback I wouldn't 791 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: say quarterback rich, but there's four guys that are probably 792 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: going to go in the top fifteen. The question of 793 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: if you go up to one, though, is does Young 794 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: Is he that much higher on everyone's list, or on 795 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: at least the Texans list than whoever's next, whether it's c. J. 796 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: Stroud or Levis. There is conversation around this quarterback class 797 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: that is better than last year, but certainly not a 798 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: quote slam dunk guy that you know will be a 799 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: big time NFL qb Ain't that the way, although it 800 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: you know, cults Jim Mersey already sort of throwing it 801 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: out there that this Bryce Young looks pretty good the one. 802 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: You know, he threw that out there in the introductory 803 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: press conference for their head coach and basically said, like, 804 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: we brought him in to develop. We brought Shane Stikeen 805 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 1: in to develop a young quarterback. So they're taking a quarterback. 806 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,959 Speaker 1: It's just whether they get their first choice or second choice. 807 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 1: Maybe they're a third. All right, you said, Greg, you 808 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: had you had a wide receiver. I do have another wide. 809 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: I have a wide receiver and another one, But why 810 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,319 Speaker 1: don't you throw out your wide receiver? Cults related This 811 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: one's pretty simple. The Tsunami's coming to Indianapolis. Keenan Allen 812 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: to the Colts for a two and twenty four third 813 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: round pick. The Cults have already traded away their their 814 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: third round pick this year. Uh in the what was 815 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 1: it the Matt Ryan trade and what was it? Um 816 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: Keim Allen. I don't think it's gonna have like a 817 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: super aggressive market as a trade option because of his 818 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: big salary, But I think if you look at it, 819 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 1: he's due to make fifteen million base salary this year. 820 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: I actually think he could get that or maybe a 821 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: little more in free agency. So I actually don't think 822 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: that Chargers will have to cut him if that's what 823 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: they're leaning towards doing, which it sounds very possible. With 824 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: their cap situation, the Colts can fit Allen in under 825 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: the cap stike and worked with Keenan Allen before when 826 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: he was back in San Diego and feel like he 827 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: is like the capable, relatively low cost pair of hands 828 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: they could use to pair there with Michael Pittman, I like, 829 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: it makes sense, highly sensible. Yeah, not like a huge 830 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: fireworks trade. But I was kind of trying to look 831 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: to see like who is legitimately realistically gonna get traded. 832 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 1: And I've been seeing all this Keenan Allen might get 833 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 1: cut noise, and I'm like, no, I think team would 834 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: give something up even even that contract is not that 835 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 1: crazy to me. Can't stay healthy, but he's still when 836 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 1: he's on the field, he's still Keenan Allen. Okay, I'll 837 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: do a wide receiver too, m c D who is 838 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. But you heard earlier he was on 839 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: around the NFL a couple of weeks back in Phoenix. Uh. 840 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: He disagreed or was a little confused on the Zaddi 841 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: line up questioning, but he also was frank with us 842 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: and frankly others on the Cowboys needed to clean things 843 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: up a little bit in terms of their playmaking roster. 844 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: They I want more players around me. Let's let's listen 845 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: to a little bit of what CD had to say 846 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: on our show. You got as around stare like that 847 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: um on Dak Yes, go look at the Eagles and 848 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: they got three receivers. Um great tight end group. Uh 849 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: they run the ball well, a line is very phenomenal. 850 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: He get San France, they got they surrounded their quarterback 851 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: and uh, you get you get success ultimately. I mean 852 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: granted we got we got just you know, as many weapons, 853 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: but that extra player or that that that one, all 854 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: all it takes is one. You know, you could be 855 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: so close in that to the to the super Bowl 856 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: and they could be a deciding factors of feel like 857 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: just keeping him, just keeping him comfortable in the pocket, 858 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: just keeping just keeping him surrounded with you know whatever. 859 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: Its spart production should I say? And uh, you gotta 860 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: stay healthy. Look at us making news. We're from newsmakers. 861 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 1: Look at us facts like that Ceedee Lamb. So he's 862 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: he's putting it out there in the media that the 863 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have enough guys to make Dak the quarterback 864 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: he can be. So you know, jar Jara likes making splashes. 865 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have some issues. They're not in cap hell, 866 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: but they have work to do to get underneath the cap. 867 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,359 Speaker 1: But it is possible. For instance, there is a path 868 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: to cutting Dak Prescott's current cap hit in half, and 869 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,439 Speaker 1: you know, moving the pain down the line, they can 870 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: clear money, and they should clear money because they also 871 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 1: have to bring back Tony Pollard. By the way, Dalton 872 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: Schultz um, but they need that number two wide receiver 873 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 1: just like the Bills. And I do like uh, I 874 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: do like allup. But also we just don't know if 875 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 1: he's ever gonna be the same guy again after that 876 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,879 Speaker 1: knee injury, So let's go get him a true number 877 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: two alongside CD Mike Evans. WHOA, he's twenty nine years old, 878 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: he's in the last year of his contract. The Bucks 879 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,760 Speaker 1: are steaming toward a rebuild, so it makes sense Evans 880 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: went to Texas A and M you're a home state, 881 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: justin for better or worse, and he uh scheduled to 882 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: make twenty four million, that's the eighth highest paid wide 883 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: receiver in the league. But you can make it work. 884 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 1: You can find a way, and then you have, hopefully 885 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: with Tony Pollard healthy and back on the roster, CD, 886 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: Mike Evans and his nine straight one thousand yard seasons, 887 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz and Dak Prescott going for it this year 888 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,400 Speaker 1: and seeing if they could get over the hump out 889 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: of the divisional playoffs. That's that's the favorite trade that 890 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: I've we've suggested to me. Can I oh, I didn't 891 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: do the terms. Second round pick fifty eighth overall, and 892 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: the ice is great, and you can sometimes I could 893 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: be wrong. Maybe it would take a first round pick. 894 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: I think, like what you're saying, the Bills would have 895 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: to give up. But sometimes these guys that are on 896 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty veterans that are expensive, I 897 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: think sometimes it takes down the price a little more, 898 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: and everybody's a little surprised sometimes by the terms when 899 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: they come out. But I would do it for a 900 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: first time. Certainly that happened with a Marii Cooper last season. 901 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: He's only thirty though, and he still moves well. I 902 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: know he didn't have a great season. The only trick, 903 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: and I've seen this Evans thing out here, is just 904 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 1: they don't really save much money by tradeium. Like there's 905 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: this idea that, like, he makes a lot of money, 906 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: so you save a lot by tradeium. But it's just 907 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: not the case because of the way his contracts directors. 908 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: So I don't see their motivation unless they got a 909 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: premium pick. I think they are at a point where 910 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 1: it could make sense to trade Mike Evans because his 911 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: value is at a high relatively, But that's why I 912 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: just would say they would need more. You gotta get 913 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: that first round, and I think they could get it. 914 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't see why not. All right, twist on my 915 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: arm a second and a fourth with a six going 916 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: back the other way. Right, This isn't exactly like you're 917 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: the GM, But I'm not doing this trade if I'm 918 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: Jason Light without a first plus and I don't think that. 919 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: Do you think there's a team out there that would 920 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: give up a first round pick for Mike Evans? Yeah? 921 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: I do. I think you just named that team. I 922 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 1: think I think so because it is partly because of 923 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: the money situation. After June first, it would be a 924 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: bigger trade, but that's like not when things happen, but 925 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: right now it wouldn't really. They wouldn't really save anything 926 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: from it. So it's like, you gotta make it worth it. 927 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: You gotta make it worth it. And once you make 928 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: the trade right, you can make some sort of commitment 929 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: to both Mink Evans and Deck as you mentioned, and 930 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: kind of alter the cap situation that number twenty six pick. 931 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: Where are we getting at twenty six? Mike Evans? Isn't 932 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,919 Speaker 1: there at twenty six. Mike Evans might not I would 933 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: do it. I would do it, but as this is 934 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: not you're the GM, but I would try very hard 935 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: to hold onto that pick if I can and see 936 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: see if we can make the move and and the 937 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: and the Bucks. Maybe either're like Jason Light's like man, 938 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: I love Secon round picks, so I love them. They're cheaper, 939 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: team control. I like good players. And this is a 940 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 1: fallout from what they did in the Tom Brady era. 941 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: Is they did things to create space, like adding three 942 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,439 Speaker 1: fake years onto Mike Evans's deal that don't really exist. 943 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: They're void years, but push this pain so that if 944 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: they wanted to make this trade, they're not really saving 945 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: anything because of everything they did a year. It was 946 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: a party. That was the whole goal of the Brady 947 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: trade and eat the pain. This last year wasn't worth it. 948 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: But they you know, I don't blame them for doing it. 949 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: Sure we have, anybody else? Have another one? Oh? I 950 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: gotta because I do. All right, let's do one words, 951 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: take a break, and we'll do one more each. We 952 00:51:54,680 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: love Akholder back, all right, one more time around the horn, Claybonne, 953 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: Let's get it the Seattle Seahawks and the fifty first 954 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: overall and the eighty third overall pick in the twenty 955 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: twenty three draft to the New Orleans Saints in exchange 956 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: for Cam Jordan. Oh okay, like that, who's got one 957 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: more year on his deal? Ye. The Saints, as Greg 958 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: pointed out earlier this week, wanted to try to save 959 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: money on Derek Carr, like during their their interview before 960 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: he was going to be a free agent. And it 961 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: signals to me that they're they're finally starting to worry 962 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: about these things, and we're going to see some longtime 963 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: New Orleans favorites and other places. All time sack leader 964 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: of New Orleans Saints. I believe maybe he started to 965 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: show some of his age last year. Maybe he's not 966 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 1: the same dude, but he's also a guy that would 967 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: it surprise you if he went to Seattle and had 968 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,399 Speaker 1: eleven sacks next year. Seattle is the type of team too, 969 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: that would give up good value for a player like 970 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: Cam Jordan. I think if the Saints could get that, 971 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,439 Speaker 1: they would do it. I like that one. I'm gonna 972 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: set a second round pick too, how about that? Okay, 973 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: what we got, We're going to Green Bay Darren Waller 974 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,479 Speaker 1: to Green Bay for a twenty twenty four second round pick. 975 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 1: I don't know why it has to be twenty twenty four. 976 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they have it in a twenty twenty 977 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: twenty three second round pick. In a twenty twenty three 978 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. They were reportedly offering a premium pick, 979 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: according to Ian Rapport at the trade deadline for Waller, 980 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: considering there were reports that they offered their second for 981 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: chess Chase Claypool. But we're topped by Chicago. I'm just 982 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna guess it was this second round pick. Now you 983 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: can get it for Waller. I think the Raiders are 984 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 1: motivated to trade Waller, and I think he will be 985 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: traded this off season. There's already been little little bird droppings. 986 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: I've heard that that he's kind of outop like bird dropping. 987 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, or are they birds dropping information or 988 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: are they defecated a little bit of both. Darren Waller 989 00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: he recently signed a contract that made him one of 990 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: the most or if not the most, highest highest paid 991 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: tight end in the league. I don't know. Uh, I 992 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: know he's hurt a lot. I don't know. Sometimes it 993 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: feels like I don't know if he's a little disinterested 994 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: and you have Josh McDaniels there, It doesn't seem like 995 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: that staff. And it's interesting that he got that contract, 996 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: but there might be a disagreement here and value between 997 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: ownership and the coaching staff. It's a good it's a 998 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 1: tradable contract. I think, where's he going? I'm sorry, Green Bay, 999 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: and you do that move regardless of if it's Rogers 1000 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 1: or Love because you gotta give the whoever it is. 1001 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: They need another weapon. They need they need pass catchers 1002 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: no matter what they're doing. Uh you, I like to 1003 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: how about another trade involving a second round pick? Derrick 1004 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: Henry I checked with my official Titans insider, only one 1005 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:54,440 Speaker 1: year remaining on his contract. That is a very tradeable contract, 1006 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 1: even if he is a highly paid running back who 1007 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,239 Speaker 1: perhaps isn't the same guy he was two years ago, 1008 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: but still Derek Henry I think has a year or 1009 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: two in the tank where he could be a big 1010 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,080 Speaker 1: time contributor, especially if he's in the right offense. How 1011 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 1: about this, Derek Henry to the New York Giants who 1012 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: boxed in a little bit here with say Quon or 1013 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 1: perhaps don't want to give him a top of the 1014 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,399 Speaker 1: market running back contract and have the Daniel Jones deal 1015 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: to take care of you tag Daniel Jones, you let 1016 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,480 Speaker 1: Barkley go to free agency, and another team in your 1017 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,439 Speaker 1: mind overpays, and then you trade the fifty seventh overall pick. 1018 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: Maybe you can make it a third round pick. Let's 1019 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,880 Speaker 1: see what's going on, and you get Derrick Henry the 1020 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 1: final year of his deal in I believe is his 1021 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 1: age twenty nine season, and you can then figure out 1022 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 1: if you want to keep him around beyond this upcoming season. 1023 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 1: So you keep Daniel Jones. You can decide whether sa 1024 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,799 Speaker 1: Quon Henry is at a wash is it one way 1025 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: or the other? But you still have a big time 1026 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: running back for a team that loves to run the ball, 1027 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: and you don't have to give sa Quon a deal 1028 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: that you don't feel comfortable with. It's essentially like giving 1029 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry the franchise tag. Instead of give up a 1030 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: third round pick. You franchise one year, ten million dollars, 1031 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: which is a fine rate for Derrick Henry. Yeah, no, 1032 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely you get a good player for for 1033 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: a great value. My question would be, if you need 1034 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry as you needed Saquon Barkley, but why not 1035 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 1: just tag sa Quan if you have to have a 1036 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: generational running back because you don't want you. You don't 1037 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 1: want to give a one hundred and some odd million 1038 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 1: dollars to Daniel because you're not quite sure in that either. 1039 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: So it's going to be another Lamars if you don't 1040 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 1: want the quarterback, just let him go, right I do. 1041 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: Lamar and Daniel Jones are very different cases, though, well 1042 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: they could be making me exactly they might actually pay 1043 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I was thinking about that that Daniel, there's 1044 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: at least a chance Daniel Jones, Gino Smith, and Lamar 1045 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: are all making the same amount of money next year. 1046 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: If you had told me like a year ago, would 1047 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 1: have blown my mind that that would be a wild move. 1048 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 1: I think about timelines with them. Are they thinking they 1049 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: are trying to win right now because that that is 1050 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 1: sort of just played in the divisional playoffs, and whether 1051 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: or not we take them seriously. I'm sure they feel 1052 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna be ready to contend in the NFC next year, 1053 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: and it's a It's an aggressive move, but one that 1054 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,880 Speaker 1: I think doesn't set them back it's not a huge 1055 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: gambit in terms of giving up the future to get 1056 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: better in the present. Um, I think they're gonna have 1057 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: who's who's on that roster running back behind right now? 1058 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: Very right well, he was there, They're gonna have to 1059 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 1: put it this way. If sa Quan's not there, they're 1060 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: either gonna have to go get somebody or draft a 1061 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: guy uh in the first couple of rounds. I would 1062 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: think that they could feel good about running the football, 1063 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: but they have to address running back. And maybe this 1064 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: is the Maybe this is all a bunch of bunk 1065 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: by me because they're just gonna bring back because they 1066 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: have the guy already, But maybe it's not. I think 1067 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna get paid a lot of money, say gun Barkley, 1068 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: and I do think they'd be looking maybe to go cheaper, 1069 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: but that might be using a second or a third 1070 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 1: round pick at running back. Interesting. I think Henry would 1071 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 1: be a fun uh in a very realistic can't see 1072 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: him that, can't quite see him with the Giants this year, 1073 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: but I could see him getting traded. Is it Grave Digger? 1074 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: Are you given what we what just happened with the 1075 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: Titans and where they are organizationally, like, this isn't this? 1076 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: This is the time to move a twenty nine year 1077 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: old running back with ninety seven thousand miles on the odometer. 1078 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: It's time, right, It's It's not like his value is 1079 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: going to get higher from here. He has a sixteen 1080 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: million dollar cap hit win the super Bowl next year, 1081 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,160 Speaker 1: justin I don't think the Titans are winning the super 1082 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: Bowl this So why would you have a nearly thirty 1083 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 1: year old running back with trade value? Because he could 1084 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: eventually be the franchises all time leading rusher and it's 1085 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: kind of cool to have him playing with one team 1086 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,480 Speaker 1: and maybe people in Tennessee like to watch Derek is true, 1087 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 1: But that's all very nice, I agree, but it's not. 1088 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: But it's a business. Business, Yeah, yeah, I would love 1089 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: that they would save seven million against the cap if 1090 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 1: they move. It's our money, right, well, and there is 1091 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: a point where it's good business to have a team 1092 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't alienate your fan base. And they could blow 1093 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 1: it all up, get rid of Tannehill and Henry and 1094 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 1: they might, but that that has its own risk to it, 1095 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 1: as they alienated the fan base and they traded a J. Brown. Yeah, 1096 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: your fans like well, lose interest in you for two 1097 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: or three. I wouldn't be upset if the Titans had 1098 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: to go through a miserable two and fifteen season to 1099 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: get the number one overall pick next year when Caleb 1100 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: Williams is coming out. Just throwing that out there, But 1101 00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if the Titans, like Mike rabel is 1102 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: not a coach who's like, yeah, let's just do a 1103 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: year of losing. That sounds fun, Like that's not how 1104 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem. So can I throw out one more? 1105 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: I know we're it's spicy, wait, but can I just 1106 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: just put a bow on that? So? Do you? And 1107 00:59:56,440 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: what Patrick's saying is, certainly there's merit to it, like 1108 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: the idea that he's one of the greatest Titans ever 1109 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,040 Speaker 1: set every record, give him the statue, retires a Titan. 1110 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: But in terms of the short and long term interests 1111 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: of the team, do you want him on the team 1112 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: week one? I think the Titans, if they can trade 1113 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Henry for a second round pick, they should do that. 1114 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 1: But it's also the same team that like locked Steve 1115 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: McNair out of the building in what like two thousand 1116 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 1: and three or whatever, and then he went and signed 1117 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: for with the Ravens, who was in a huge rival 1118 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 1: at the time, totally different ownership management and everything. I'm 1119 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 1: trying to think home for the Cowboys. Cut Zeke, don't 1120 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 1: resign Pollard Henry to the Cowboys. I see him going 1121 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: to Yeah, an interesting if they Cincinnati cut Joe Mixon, 1122 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: get Derrick Henry weird, All right, go ahead, Okay, sorry. 1123 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, who I really do think is gonna get traded. 1124 01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: So does he to the Patriots for the number fourteen 1125 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:09,440 Speaker 1: overall pick and Kendrick Bourne. I mean he's under contract. 1126 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 1: I think he's a useful player. I think he's better 1127 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: than what the Patriots have shown him to be, so 1128 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 1: you might as well throw him. And Ramsey's not gonna 1129 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 1: cost as much as he was to get in Los Angeles. 1130 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: But man, doesn't he feel that that Stefan Gilmore, big, 1131 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 1: physical Taiwah type of cornerback sort of at a discount. 1132 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 1: This is when Bill likes to swoop in. It does. 1133 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 1: It does make a whole lot of sense, and it 1134 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,360 Speaker 1: feels like it's gonna happen. Now. Yes, it's gonna be 1135 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey in the Patriots uniform. Everybody's gonna it's like, 1136 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: oh wow, we we slept on him because he got 1137 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,200 Speaker 1: beat those five or six times. But this guy's actually 1138 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: had a pretty good season fourteen overall. I think actually 1139 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: could get it done potentially. Who pooped on Detroit and 1140 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: said why would you go from LA to Detroit? Who 1141 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: said that? Uh? When the Jalen Ramsey, Michael Parsons, Micah 1142 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: Parsons like, why would you go for La to Foxborough 1143 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: in a non Tom Brady era? Well, in this case, 1144 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't on some level doesn't have a choice. Yeah, 1145 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, he signed a nice sexist franchise in modern times. No, 1146 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 1: but uh, he signed a big, big contract. Maybe you 1147 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: have to give him a little extra. But he's doe 1148 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars this year. That's the thing with these 1149 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 1: long contracts is they become very tradeable and you might 1150 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: be incentivized to give him a little short term bump 1151 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: to make him happy. But his next three years he 1152 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 1: is only due forty six million dollars, which is, you know, 1153 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: a great contract. That's that's uh, the contract that Carlton 1154 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Davis got essentially last year. They're probably gonna do it. 1155 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I can be good. I kind of don't get why 1156 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: the Rams feel like they have to. But I get 1157 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: that they don't really have another avenue to get picks 1158 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 1: and they feel like they maybe need that. Now. I 1159 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,919 Speaker 1: know you said Patrick that you know he got beat 1160 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: seven times, but he's actually still great. The Rams are 1161 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: interest did in trading him. Maybe they some of their 1162 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 1: self scouting is like, maybe it's time to get out 1163 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: before we can't get out on this one. Well, the 1164 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: thing is, I think Jalen Ramsey has extra years that 1165 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,640 Speaker 1: we may not con because he may not be playing 1166 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: corner for the rest of his career, Like he's gonna 1167 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 1: make that transition at some point, and I think that's yeah. 1168 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: I could picture Jalen Ramsey orchestrating a trade and being 1169 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: on the Dolphins or something. I feel like he would 1170 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 1: seems like a guy would like Miami. I don't know, 1171 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: the cold weather. Jalen's kind of a Hollywood dude to me. 1172 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: I think I just see him in that Darrell Reeves 1173 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: one year in New England, Stefan Gilmour. It's just like that, 1174 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 1: that's what Bill likes. I'm just thinking Bill's type likes 1175 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: the big physical as veteran guys. Yeah, to get rings, 1176 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,400 Speaker 1: that's not who the Patriots are anywhere. They don't have 1177 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: that s more in terms of free agency and in 1178 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: the trade market. If these guys control where they go, 1179 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: a little bit fair. But the Gregg's point, Jalen doesn't 1180 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: really have a choice in this. In this aspect, he's 1181 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 1: he can control. He's got ways of doing things. Remember 1182 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 1: how he got from the Jacksonville, LA. That's fair because 1183 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: he pulled up in the Brinks truck at training camp. 1184 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 1: He said, I would like to be compensated, and Tom 1185 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 1: Coffin was like no, and he got He got everything 1186 01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 1: he wanted. I think Jayalen will get what he wants. 1187 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 1: Sneaky twenty nine. I don't know why. I'm surprised that 1188 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 1: he's been around a while though, old Tom Hall of Famer. Yeah, now, 1189 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: neither couple. I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't know about 1190 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: the now thing. But let's say he doesn't make any 1191 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 1: more All pros in his career. He already has more 1192 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: All pros than some cornerbacks in the do you he's 1193 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 1: so you're saying he's his salaries manageable? Is that where 1194 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: you think New England should be spending the bulk of 1195 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: their offseason money Their piggyback or should it be ho. 1196 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: He'd be a great pickup for most any team. There 1197 01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: might be something and I don't know if it's for 1198 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: soonality or what it is that I just get the 1199 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 1: feeling that Jalen Ramsey helped the Rams get a championship, 1200 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,480 Speaker 1: become a great defense and they feel like that relationship 1201 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: was great and that like that maybe it ran its 1202 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: course for whatever reason, because otherwise I don't understand why 1203 01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: they would trade him. He still seems like he's playing 1204 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 1: at a high level. Three team, first time, first team 1205 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: All Pro. That's that's a good start. The top headline 1206 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 1: on ESPN right now is out of the darkness Colan 1207 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers exits Oregon facility. They just know that's gonna get love. 1208 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: SEO masterpiece all right, that was navigating trade season and 1209 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: free agency presented by Toyota. Those are good ones. I think. 1210 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: I thought we did an excellent work today, and I 1211 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't want to, you know, naval gays on 1212 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: that level and pat ourselves on the back Barry Harrowood style. 1213 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: But I really do think all of those trades make 1214 01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: sense and I would be surprised if not one of them. 1215 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: If we we go over whatever. I think one of 1216 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,640 Speaker 1: those trades will happen in some capacity. That's why not 1217 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,040 Speaker 1: just makes sense. They're also fun fun, They were fun, 1218 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 1: and that ray one because I don't like the picture. 1219 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: I think there's an irony also greggy to the tsunami, 1220 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 1: which is a horrific act of it. It's a little 1221 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: tricky for the brand Mother Nature, and yet it's so 1222 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 1: fun for us. The tsunami in the in the context 1223 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 1: of professional football transactions, is that interesting. It's crossed my 1224 01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 1: mind when I send send out like a celebratory gift 1225 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: of an actual tsunami and then think this is there's 1226 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: something wrong here and it's a problem, but you don't 1227 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: stop because it's good for the brand. I might stop 1228 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,400 Speaker 1: now now that I've put this out there. I had 1229 01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: to google Barry Horror. But a wave is a fundamental partial. 1230 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: It's one of the great Jewish wrestlers of all times. 1231 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Had never heard of him, but uh, I think he 1232 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 1: actually had to start off dad on his shorts like 1233 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: he was or a necklace. He was like one of 1234 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 1: the great Um Hammond Eggers of the eighties and early nineties. 1235 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 1: He was he was always defeated, but he kind of 1236 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 1: had a little swag to him. Um and the real 1237 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: ones know what I'm talking about. Harrowitz, All right, that's it, Patrick, 1238 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 1: You've done beautiful work with us. Thank you, Thank you. Guys. 1239 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 1: Are you going to sleep now? How does it work? 1240 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely in moments. We'll be back next week, combine week 1241 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 1: with Mark Sessler joining us again. Until then, he lookal