1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can I just say the fact that you guys are 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: doing a podcast that I watched you guys game yesterday 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: and the fact that you guys are doing a podcast 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: the next day, it's I can't even imagine doing a 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: podcast and coming to practice and seeing Tip's face the 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: next day. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 2: So the fact that you guys, you know, I respect it. 8 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 3: I just want to let you guys know. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: It's it's very different than the way that we did it. 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: But the fact that you guys are building your ship 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: during season, I'm impressed. 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 4: I mean, when you were playing you have you guys 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 4: are like sidekicks, so it's totally different back like, yeah, 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: we sidekicks. 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a messenger, big, big, a guy, big, it's 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 4: a messenger. 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: Let's talk about We. 19 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Had Tis on the episode sign Up. That's episode. 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 2: Yeah that was a good episode. 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: It's real. 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, made him laugh a lot. Yeah, no, you're wrong. 24 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 5: He definitely he loosened up. He loosened up. But you 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 5: can tell like. 26 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: It took him about ten to fifteen minutes. 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it took him to fifteen minutes. And then probably 28 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 5: for the last two years since we've been doing this pod, 29 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 5: you know what, he'd always make like a couple of 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 5: little comments or whatever, so you can tell, yeah, you 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 5: can tell like he'll be caught like annoyed. Ye, yeah, 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 5: like somebody would be doing something like get your podcast, buddy, 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 5: and it's like you can say, like I say, you're 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 5: mad about this? 35 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. My favorite, one of my favorite Tips moments was 36 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: Twitter had just come out and I shot at three 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: in practice and I made it, and and Tip just like, this. 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Is what we're doing, guys, Like you serious joking? Like 39 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: you're over here shooting threes? What is this joke? 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: And I got to the locker room after practice and 41 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: I said, I hit a three in practice today. But 42 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: Tips started hating. Tips was hating and and I remember 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: it was like it was one of those things that 44 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: every it went a little viral. Not nothing crazy, but 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: people were laughing about it. 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: And I remember coming in the next. 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: Day and TIBs was not happy about it, like brought 48 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: me up to the office to talk about it, like 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: just don't don't play with me like that. Anyway, Doing 50 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: all this just brought it brought me back. Times have changed, 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Times have changed? 52 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, three days because we have three days off till 53 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 5: next a game two thousand. What they said it was 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: two thousand and twelve, y'all had three days off. 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: What would have been like he would always talk about 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: the no contact thing. 57 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: So we weren't practicing five on five going at each 58 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: other like that, but we were going over the plays 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: over and over, so we would be on our feet 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: for you know, two three hours? 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: Good lord, Yeah, sounds right. We weren't too three hours. 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: We were like, say, a practice like tomorrow, we have 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: two days before the next game. 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: We'll probably on our feet for what hour? 65 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 2: Forty yeah, forty two hours? Yeah, but yeah, it would 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: be like that, like not really contact, just. 67 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: Shooting and then going through all plays, the rolodecks of plays. 68 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: How old are you now thirty? 69 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: And how old are you not thirty? 70 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: He's still in your twenties. 71 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you guys are finally like, let's have this conversation. 73 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: In five years. Five years, I'll be done. 74 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: In five years, I'll be I'll be down in Florida 75 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: as far as far as I can be away from basketball. 76 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 5: That's to be my plan after that. Don't have no 77 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 5: one called me, don't text me. 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: It's nice. 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 5: I don't even think ESPN wants to do something. I 80 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 5: don't know about that. 81 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: He's lying. 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: Say yeah, he's lying. 83 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 6: To do what if you ESPN calls you to do 84 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 6: the finals again, You're gonna go. You're gonna be there 85 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 6: so fast. If I can do stuff periodically, I will. 86 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 6: But if I got to do like. 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: Get like what like Mike Breen does, like ninety twelve 88 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: hundred games season, I mean at that point, I'm well playing. 89 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: The league for sure. Try to hang around and do 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: a veat minimum so you don't see yourself, you know, 91 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: talking ship with Steven A. 92 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 5: We could do that like a first take. I would 93 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 5: do like a I would do like a first take 94 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 5: like I'll do it like once a week. 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: That's one of the. 96 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 6: Beauty of beauties of starting your own pot is. Obviously 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 6: we don't know how far this will go. But if 98 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 6: we're still doing it in five years, I mean something's 99 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 6: going right. You can just that could be your career 100 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 6: any occasionally be a finals. 101 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as I do. 102 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 5: I just want to golf, honestly, That's what I Just 103 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 5: want to get away, just golf. 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 2: And do nothing with my life. Just relaxed sounds. 105 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: So you want to raise your kids. 106 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'll raise them. You know what I mean. 107 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 5: I'll wake up, you know, get them ready for school, 108 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 5: drop them off to school, go to the golf course, 109 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 5: play golf, pick them up from school. On the way 110 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 5: back from the golf course, hang out for a couple 111 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 5: of hours. They go to sleep, have some wine, go 112 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 5: to sleep, and do it, do it again. 113 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: You know, you're you get really bored really easily. So 114 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 4: that's not going to be sustainable for a long time. 115 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 5: When I get bored, I'll probably just like travel and 116 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 5: play golf, okay, to a different place. 117 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting hearing you guys talking about retirement 118 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: when you guys are in the retirement. 119 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like this is. 120 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, once it's gone, you know you you you 121 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: kind of you can't take the walking into the arena, 122 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: playing in front of twenty thousand, the crowd going nice 123 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: like that. When when that's gone, you don't get that 124 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: back ever. So as somebody who's done now, because I 125 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: remember being in your position when I was like thirty 126 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: years old, My body was heard and playing hard at 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: hell every night and just you know, just thinking about later. 128 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: On down to like my life down the line, and. 129 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: It's just the adrenaline that you get for being out there. 130 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: You'll never get that feeling again. So just and and 131 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: and the responsibilities, Like I know you guys, have you 132 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: guys like I know, it's crazy to me that you 133 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: have kids. I mean I remember you being in seventh 134 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: grade in Chicago, Like I went to your games like 135 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: what you were in ninth grade. Actually ninthus came to 136 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: your game yours. 137 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: But it's just like the fact that you have kids. 138 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: And look, the responsibilities changed, like now basketball is priority always. 139 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: I never even like took out the garbage until after 140 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I retired. 141 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: You know, Like, what what do you do in the 142 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: house to make yourself you besides now, oh I. 143 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 3: I pick up after my wife and my daughter. 144 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, I'm gonna make that known towards the camera. 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: That's what I do. There's ship everywhere. Can you keep 146 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: it clean? I don't. 147 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 4: I'm not shrubbing the floors. I'm not like vacuuming whatever, 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: but like there's it's out of place. 149 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't live like that. 150 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I a lot. Now I'm just in here thinking 151 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: like damn, what do I be doing. I might put 152 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: this NBA as far as I can bro come, just 153 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: saying I'm like, damn, what do I be doing in now? 154 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 6: So I'm just like, we went to the grocery store 155 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 6: the other day, and I was kind of thinking to myself, like, 156 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 6: when was the last time you were in a grocery store. 157 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: That's a grocery Was this summer? 158 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? But said the summer? 159 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: Summer? Then I think it was right before fourth of July. 160 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: So like that's where we needed. We needed food that's. 161 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 6: One every week without sometimes multiple times a week. 162 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: When was the last time you were in a supermarket? 163 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 6: Well, Shannon asked you to pick up something the other day, 164 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 6: That's what That's what I was talking about. 165 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: Fresh market. Oh yeah, before that, that's that was the 166 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: memo ride. It might have been. I think it was. 167 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: It was the summer. It was when I went to 168 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: your house case in point. 169 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: You don't know. 170 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: I went to your house because I was if you 171 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: have to think about it, yeah, Shannon. 172 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 5: Shannon took a nap and I didn't want to go 173 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 5: to sleep, so I was just like hanging out and 174 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 5: I got bored. 175 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go to a 176 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: grocery store. Okay, So he went on not necessity. I 177 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: was bored I went to grocery store. 178 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 5: I like picked up like some candy and like some cherries, 179 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 5: and then I just like walked into your house unannounced. 180 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 4: True you did? And candy and cherries? Yeah, who are 181 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 4: the cherries for your seedless seed? 182 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 3: Making? 183 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: Sure? I probably had like some watermelon, but like I 184 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: can't go. 185 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 5: That they so actually, I mean, yeah we can't. That's 186 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 5: gonna go too much into the black stereotype. I got watermelon, cherries, 187 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: I walked in his house unannounced. It doesn't really go 188 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 5: well for the stereotype. But you did leave the keys 189 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 5: in the door that day, so I know, yeah, that 190 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 5: was bad. That's that's a white stereotype. 191 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, is it? 192 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 5: Yes, in the gated community though, so you know no 193 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 5: one took them. 194 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: Why is he putting my business out there? 195 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: Damn that's your guy. Damn. 196 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'm not useful at all. 197 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: Why were you not? 198 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 6: Is it just because like you were so busy, you 199 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 6: were so tired by the time you got home. Obviously 200 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 6: you were making a lot of money. It was just 201 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 6: like I can offload this or. 202 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the the paying the bills thing only goes 203 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: so far. So I didn't realize until I was done 204 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: playing like I don't bring nothing useful to the house, 205 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: like besides paying the bills, Like I don't bring shit. 206 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, I just got married after I. 207 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: Retired, and everybody's you know, doing dishes, has a roll 208 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: around the house, and I'm just like pacing around because 209 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna start taking out the garbent. 210 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: Do something because I'm just like my wife is looking 211 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 2: at me, like. 212 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 3: Do something, you know. 213 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: So that's why it's interesting because now you guys, I 214 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: mean after a game, like I would never do no 215 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: shit like this, but you guys are already thinking about 216 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: the future. 217 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: You know. 218 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: It's just to me, it's it's interesting, man, It's just 219 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: it's good to think about because as a player, everybody 220 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: tells you everything's great and you bring so much. There's 221 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: more to this shit, and it's the simple things like 222 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: making yourself useful at the crib. 223 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is actually good because I feel like, I mean, 224 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 6: more times we can count on two hands. In this show, 225 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 6: you'll you'll reference your retirement and how you're excited to 226 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 6: do nothing. This is the first time that someone's actually 227 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 6: said here and been like, nah, you should appreciate what 228 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 6: you're doing right now. 229 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 5: I should push doing something as far away as possibly. 230 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 3: All Right, fellas is that time again? 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