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Speaker 2: At the sixteen years of being a quarterback for the Giants,

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Speaker 2: cast with his brother Peyton Eli Manning. We appreciate you

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Speaker 2: coming on this, I Jalen, I know, damn. What is

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Speaker 4: You nail introduction? Dang man, exceptional. That's enough set you

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Speaker 4: hadn't I'll tell you the season season two.

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Speaker 6: Hey, you're killing it. You're killing it. It's a staple. Now,

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Speaker 6: once you do something twenty five times, you're a staple.

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Speaker 2: There's room. There's room for you know, other guys, Matt Jalen,

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Speaker 3: The torch Josh Harborne to do in truth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is actually one thing I wanted to talk about,

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Speaker 3: Yett before I got on or.

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Speaker 1: Now, I only said, Hey, I'm gonna keep my eagles.

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Speaker 6: you know commanders, I got eagles.

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Speaker 4: You know I'm not going to get any good questions

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Speaker 2: Thank god we have no cowboys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, at least, yeah, we got a chance to have

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Speaker 1: Actually, unlike Josh, I got a nice video from Eli

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Speaker 1: when we did the whole captain thing. So thank you, Eli.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I'm Josh. I'm still waiting on.

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Speaker 1: Nor your first one. Like I deserve like a public

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a total hypothetical, Eli, But when you

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Speaker 6: But he was paying attention to everything. He was taking notes.

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Speaker 4: It happened.

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Speaker 6: He broke eighty yarders and he worked hard, and you

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy hearing how like long a day is,

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Speaker 6: Our first meeting was at seven forty five, So I'm

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Speaker 4: Double teams on this guy.

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Speaker 6: And and so they're just it's very team specific and

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Speaker 1: Josh, do you think how long do you think Tis

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because I would have demanded a train.

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Speaker 4: No, we have you're on the practice field.

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Speaker 6: You're on the practice field for usually have like a

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Speaker 6: you got practice eat. I mean you don't eat most

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Speaker 4: From there. So yeah, it's long days you're in there.

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Speaker 2: What's probably number at ten or eleven?

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Speaker 1: If we have a game the day before, practices at twelve.

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Speaker 1: If we don't have a game day before practice at eleven,

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Speaker 4: I mean it's yeah, the amount of game should play,

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Speaker 2: But even half even half, Like, we'll get there eleven

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Speaker 1: You get that ten o'clock for a living practice.

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Speaker 2: Beginning of it. Yeah, I'll get that. I'll get that

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Speaker 2: about ten thirty. Go get like fifteen minutes of shooting

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Speaker 1: I'm usually there like a nine twenty nine thirty. Like

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock. Damn you get there at ten thirty, ten

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Speaker 2: Thirty sometimes, bro it was at the end.

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Speaker 4: Of the year.

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Speaker 2: You also have the travel, the travel exactly the road

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Speaker 4: Week road trip. I'm home every night. I mean I'm

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Speaker 1: No, I do not do not give him any type

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Speaker 1: ten thirty. Actually make sure we keep this in, keep

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm never late. I'm a beata beat there. So

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Speaker 2: you know, talk about like the play that y'all run

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Speaker 6: I think it's gotten better. Gruden was known for having

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Speaker 6: But yeah, it was it was very worthy and you

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Speaker 4: You have what you have?

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Speaker 6: One word, it tells everybody what to do. And they wanted,

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Speaker 4: That's how college is going. More to that.

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Speaker 6: Two minute to be a little bit quicker, and you know,

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Speaker 6: I think it's gotten better of just you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: That's cool because we I mean we we only really

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Speaker 2: It was just like get JB the ball. Yeah, it

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Speaker 6: be I guess I think of it like if we

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Speaker 6: the end, we know what the play is, like we've

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Speaker 6: talked about during the week, or I feel like y'all

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Speaker 6: are just drawing stuff up in the dirts, like all right,

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Speaker 4: Let's go figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I think we have plays that like we'll run, like

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Speaker 1: after timeout, it's like Ato, that's actually let me, let's

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Speaker 1: not go down that road, Josh. But like we'll walk

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Speaker 1: situation were we make we most likely we'll go to

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Speaker 1: this or this. Like we'll have different things out of

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Speaker 1: know more times than that what we're doing because we

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Speaker 1: have the coach. We have the most prepared coach in

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Speaker 1: It's whatever situation is, he's gonna have a play for

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Speaker 1: us to figure it out. But we will walk through

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Speaker 1: it pretty much almost every shoot around, Like we'll walk

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Speaker 1: through a different set of plays and like in different situations.

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Speaker 1: So but we won't really have names for it, like

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Speaker 1: it just yeah, it'll just be the situation where we

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if all of a sudden we had a big

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Speaker 2: I would say it's crazy because like as you as

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Speaker 2: you know, just being in a leaf for so long,

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Speaker 2: it's just going from like different coaches. It changes so much.

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Speaker 2: Like some coaches, like you, have set plays that they're

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Speaker 2: Some coaches have like another assistant coach that like, you

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Speaker 2: I played for like six coaches so far, so it's

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Speaker 2: crazy to see like the difference of you know, of

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Speaker 4: And you're in New Orleans my hometown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, mans, big easy, great, great eating. I was. I was.

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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time on magazine Street getting

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Speaker 2: some good food that was that was mostly was it

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Speaker 2: I don't think so I had good times in New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of I got a lot of flak. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of flats for my statements the

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Josh said that he doesn't know. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: know a player that was excited to get traded to

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Speaker 2: He said, Okay, I was coming from and when I

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Speaker 4: I don't know what the vibe is.

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Speaker 2: Down there, really, I was, Yeah, I was coming from

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Speaker 2: La Bro. Like, no, I wasn't excited. Once I got

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Speaker 2: down there, like, as you know, like the vibe of

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Speaker 2: it is dope. It's cool for us. They embraced us,

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Speaker 2: so like it was really dope once I got down there.

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Speaker 2: But before I got there, I was I was not excited.

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Speaker 2: I was leaving Sunny La. I was kind of I

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Speaker 2: was sick about it, but I didn't it was in

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Speaker 2: the podcast. I didn't go into that much detail. So

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Speaker 2: they were just like, oh, wow, we thought you liked

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Speaker 2: this here, I'm like, nah, I did like y'all, like

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Speaker 2: I loved y'all. Y'all embraced me. I wasn't excited at first.

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Speaker 1: But if you look up backtracking in the dictionary, we'll

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Speaker 1: see a picture of Josh right there, just right there,

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Speaker 1: just one.

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Speaker 2: You know. For me, it's like you can just see,

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Speaker 2: like if I like this city or whatever, like I'm

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Speaker 2: going to like show love on like Instagram, Twitter or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So it's like all anybody has to do is go

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Speaker 2: through my tweets from like seventeen, I mean you haven't

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Speaker 2: like they're nineteen to like twenty two and see like

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Speaker 2: all the love and like, oh no, he actually liked it,

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Speaker 2: something like huh.

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Speaker 4: And what about for both of y'all?

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Speaker 6: Obviously you know we're different places professionally, and then you come,

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Speaker 6: you know, come to the Knicks or come to New York.

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Speaker 6: Would you say that New York is is? I guess

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Speaker 6: you know some it can be a little scary, I think,

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Speaker 6: just because of the media capital and you do well

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Speaker 6: and obviously you know, the success this year was was

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Speaker 6: unbelievable and and you know, just on that note, I

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Speaker 6: hadn't been to a Knicks game and like seven or

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Speaker 6: eight years and went to some early you know, just

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Speaker 6: you know, Nixon not been the best team.

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Speaker 4: As I went to like three games this year to

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Speaker 6: The playoffs, watching on TV, had the kids watching, and

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Speaker 6: so it was it was fun.

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Speaker 4: It's exciting and and obviously awesome.

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Speaker 6: But like, before you come to New York, is there

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Speaker 6: any you know, as an athlete or do athletes talk

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Speaker 6: about like like this is can be scary because if

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Speaker 6: and the media and there's so much and there's gonna

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Speaker 6: be so much. We're gonna get talked about. No matter

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Speaker 6: what we're playing great, we get talked about.

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Speaker 4: Is good.

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Speaker 6: If we're not playing great, we're gonna still get talked about,

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Speaker 6: and it's you know, might not be so good.

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Speaker 4: Is there any thoughts into that coming to New York?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I think that's always gonna be in the

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Speaker 1: back of your head regardless because of because of what

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Speaker 1: like New York brings, like what New York media brings

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Speaker 1: to like the sports world, and so I mean, for me,

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Speaker 1: I just tried to hold myself accountable. I tried to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I didn't play well, I gotta be better and just

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Speaker 1: I just I tried to be genuine. I didn't try

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Speaker 1: and push like fault on somebody else, like. I just

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Speaker 1: took all accountability when I could, and I that's why

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Speaker 1: I really focused on when I talked to the media.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously I go out there and try and

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Speaker 1: do my best to help my team win. And but

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Speaker 1: I think for me, I didn't think of it as

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Speaker 1: much once I was actually like playing, once the season

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Speaker 1: started and all that stuff like before like, yeah, I

656
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: was thinking about it, like what if I like what

657
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: if I fail? Like what what if things don't go well?

658
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: Well?

659
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Like, no, that's life, like things aren't gonna go like

660
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: the way you think, like You're gonna have ups and downs.

661
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 1: It's all about how you like bounce back from stuff

662
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, I just tried my best to

663
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: not really think about it. And obviously having the teammates

664
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: around you that are there, I'll lift you up and

665
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: it makes it a lot easier, It makes it more fun,

666
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: makes it better. And so yeah, it's just regardless we

667
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: were going to talk about you, so just you can't

668
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: listen to anything positive or negative. You just got to

669
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: go on and do your thing.

670
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, it was probably kind of like a

671
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: little bit of same because it was like when I

672
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: got traded in New York. At first, like I was

673
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: like super excited, astatic, and then I think I like

674
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: flew out like the next day or like the next afternoon,

675
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: and I like I remember like that morning, I'm just saying,

676
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: I'm like like about to go to New York, is

677
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 2: about be fired New York, And I'm just sat there

678
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: and think, I'm like, but what if I'm trash when

679
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: I get there? Like what if I'm just terrible? They're

680
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: gonna boo me and all that. But it's I think

681
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: it's always like something that just kind of pops into

682
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: your mind for like a quick second. But then as

683
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: you guys know, like once you get there and you

684
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: get into the swing of things. If you guys know

685
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: like New York, you know, they always going to show

686
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 2: you little but one of the biggest things they want

687
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: to see you, you know, like jam said, be accountable

688
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: and like put the work in and put the effort in,

689
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: like they love you know, the the genuine the authentic

690
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: you know player who kind of you know, blue collar,

691
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: and but I was like, I know, yeah exactly. So

692
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, I always have that in my

693
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 2: back pocket, Like I'm you know, I might not always

694
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: make shots or misshots to do whatever it is, but

695
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm always going to have that, like, you know, never

696
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: kind of give up grind, you know, and they're at

697
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: least you know, they might not like me or but

698
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: they're at least respected as a player.

699
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: V Almost he almost wanted to cancel the pod before

700
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: we started because the New York the New York media was.

701
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had we had a moment where we were

702
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I can't just say Josh too, it was me too.

703
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: I had a moment. I'm just like I just I

704
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: don't know. We knew the pod was a thing, and

705
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: we thought about it, and I means I think we

706
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: had a run where we just like we weren't playing

707
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: as well, and so me and Josh contemplated, like, yo,

708
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: like this we shouldn't do this, and then we started

709
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: the podcast and like I think we went. Oh, I

710
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: think we were a three or four game lousion shake

711
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: when we first started the podcast. So people were saying,

712
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: let stop the podcast. Stop the podcast and then we

713
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: were just like you know what, like, hey, we just

714
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: we just gotta do what we gotta do. And then

715
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: turned out to be a hit on both on and

716
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: off the court.

717
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: So it was.

718
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Speaker 1: Like I said, you just can't listen to anything positive

719
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: or negative. We just gotta go with what you're what

720
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: you're feeling, and yeah, that's it.

721
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: Cool.

722
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 3: So this part of the episode is brought to you

723
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: by Fanatics Sportsbook. So, Eli, if you can't take the

724
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: chip chips out of the equation, say say you can't

725
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 3: say those, what would you say? Your favorite memory wearing

726
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: number ten for the Giants.

727
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 6: Was, Oh, you know it's it's I think, great thing

728
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 6: about sports. It's still about the friendships, about the relationships,

729
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 6: about the bond with with your teammates. You know that

730
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 6: that's what you take back whether you win a championship,

731
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 6: don't win a championship, you can't take back you know,

732
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 6: the training camps and the and the days of grinding

733
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 6: with your teammates and and just the friendships that are

734
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 6: that that last afterwards with you know, some of my

735
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 6: teammates that still live in the New Jersey area, see

736
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 6: we're raising our kids together at each other's uh, you know,

737
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 6: weddings and so just those relationships are or are still

738
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 6: the most meaningful thing of my career up here in

739
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 6: New York.

740
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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

741
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 3: And then while we have three fourths of the NFC

742
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: East covered on the podcast, obviously, I think it makes

743
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: sense to do some predictions. So what does everyone thinks

744
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: gonna happen this year in the.

745
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: Nfcas, Oh, Jalen, I already know what you're gonna say.

746
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jail got the Eagle. I mean, the Eagles have

747
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: lost like eight in a row.

748
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: You know, we're looking on the future. Now, we're on

749
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: the future, in the past, in the past, and there's.

750
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Speaker 4: You know, they changed their name more than their their

751
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: head coaches, so I didn't think that was going on there.

752
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 4: So I think Giants are looking good. I think Giants

753
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 4: are out of this crew. I mean, I think Giants

754
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Speaker 4: are in the league.

755
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: I feel like we all can agree realistically that the

756
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: Giants will be the worst ones, and then the Commanders

757
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: will be like a like a nine and nine and eighteen,

758
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: you know, and then even in Cowboy, they're both going

759
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: to be like thirteen and something.

760
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 4: I feel like he's going to get a jersey or.

761
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: Something yeah, yeah, there it is.

762
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 6: Oh, oh stole my giant, this stole safe one, and

763
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: now he's got the jersey on.

764
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Speaker 3: This is how, this is how I knew Jalen was

765
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 3: a diehard Eagles fan because so we had Tom on

766
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: the pod like a couple of weeks ago live and

767
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: obviously I had never met him before. Everything that you

768
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: hear is just he's like a psycho competitor, right, and

769
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 3: like you said, those Super Bowls, like the ones he lose,

770
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: like they still eat at him. Three minutes into the podcast,

771
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: we sit down and Jalen makes a joke about the

772
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Speaker 3: Eagles beating the Patriots.

773
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 4: I swore he was going to get up and leave.

774
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: I was like, and he actually he pretended. He pretended

775
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 4: to get up and then he sat back down.

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Speaker 1: I see, I asked Tom. I said, Tom, I'm a

777
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: huge Eaglish fan, right, I just want to clear this

778
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: before we go up there. And I totally embarras myself.

779
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: Can I say something about the Eagles beating you? If not,

780
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: I will, I will shut up. I'll bite my tongue. No, No,

781
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: you're good, You're good. It was like perfect.

782
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Speaker 3: So just a little job in there, little job ELI

783
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: want to question I have for you. You and Jalen, obviously,

784
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: I think share some similarities and that like Jalen grew

785
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: up in a basketball household, you grew up in a

786
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 3: football household. And one of the things that Jalen's dad

787
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 3: said to him was like, if you really want to

788
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: do this, if you're serious about it, Like Jayleen, I

789
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: forget the exact coute, but he's like, if a teacher

790
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: gave you the answers to the test, you'd basically take it.

791
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 3: He was like, I'm giving you the answers to the test,

792
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 3: So I want to hear from both of you guys,

793
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: like what it was like growing up in a in

794
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: a football or a basketball household? Was there pressure? Was

795
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: there ever a question whether or not you want it? Like,

796
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: at what point were you like, this is what I

797
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 3: want And how did that like infrastructure around you help

798
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: you get there?

799
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: I think, I mean, I think for me, I mean

800
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: my dad.

801
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 6: My dad played fourteen years in the NFL, but he

802
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 6: never he never necessarily pushed like football on us. It

803
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 6: wasn't It wasn't h his goal to create NFL quarterbacks.

804
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 6: It really wasn't, wasn't it. We played a ton of

805
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 6: sports my dad. My dad played college baseball as well,

806
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 6: and so he wanted you know, he played basketball and

807
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 6: high school, so we played all those sports. I played

808
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 6: basketball through high school, played baseball until my junior year

809
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 6: of high school.

810
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 4: And just you know.

811
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Speaker 6: Love love my teammates, love playing all these sports. New

812
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 6: football was was probably gonna be my route. I worked

813
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 6: harder at that. I you know, I did more camps

814
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 6: around football.

815
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: I knew. I mean I was six or five, and

816
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: you know.

817
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 6: Dunk twice in my life, so I knew, like, hey,

818
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 6: basketball is probably not probably not the right thing for

819
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 6: me at this point. In football, I could, I could

820
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 6: throw it well. But my dad's big thing was he said,

821
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 6: I'm never gonna make you go do something, or I'm

822
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: never gonna make you go outside and throw routes or

823
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 6: we have to do this. But if you ever want

824
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 6: my help, you just have to ask and I'll drop

825
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 6: whatever and come help you. If you want me to

826
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 6: come with your receivers to a you know, a throwing session,

827
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 6: or help organize it, just ask me.

828
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: I'll do it.

829
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Speaker 6: I'll coach those guys up, I'll coach you up. I'll

830
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 6: help you where I can. But you know it's got

831
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 6: to be on you. You got to want to do this,

832
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 6: and I can help you along the way, but I'm

833
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 6: not going to force you into something you don't necessarily

834
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 6: want to do. And I think that that helped me

835
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 6: just kind of find my my passion, find my way.

836
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,919
Speaker 6: And and you know when I when I needed help

837
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 6: on something, I had a resource that was that was

838
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 6: there to help. But I think my dad kind of said, hey,

839
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 6: I live my my athletic dreams. I lived my football dreams,

840
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 6: and I want if you want to do it, I

841
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 6: want you to do it, but it's got to be

842
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 6: on your terms, and I want you to live it out.

843
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to live my my dreams through you.

844
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 6: So you go do it your own way. You figure

845
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 6: it out, you decide where you want to go to school,

846
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 6: you decide how you want to do it, and I'm

847
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 6: just I'm here to help you along the way.

848
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say mine was pretty similar. I think

849
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember the term that my dad used

850
00:39:54,360 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: to Matt. It was like, yeah, he was like, hey,

851
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: if this is what you want to do, like I

852
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: have the answer to the test, Like if a teacher

853
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: gave you a study, guy with all the answers to

854
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 1: prepare for our test. You would look at the study

855
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: guide to make sure you pass the test. So I'm

856
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: the study guide and let me help you pass the

857
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: test if this is what you want to do. And

858
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: so once my dad retired, he kind of looked at

859
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: me and was like, hey, like what do you want

860
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: to do? Like what is like a goal of yours?

861
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: And like, since I was so young, I wanted to

862
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: play in the NBA. I wanted to be successful in

863
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: the NBA. And he said, hey, I'm going to push you.

864
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: It was like from fifth grade on, fifth or sixth

865
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: grade on, I wasn't going to push you, right, I'm

866
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: going to ask you every single day, whether you're crying,

867
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: whether you're happy, whatever your situations, if this is what

868
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: you want to do, and whatever your answer is, we're

869
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: going to go with that. But CS, I'm going to

870
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: continue to do it. If it's no, I'm going to

871
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: back off. But I'm not going to force you to

872
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: do something you don't want to do. And so there

873
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: were days like from fifth grade you started like we

874
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: started like training twice a week, and then sixth grade

875
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: it was maybe three times a week. And then he

876
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: went on and on and on, and but I think

877
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: at a young age he definitely wanted me to have

878
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: a mindset of always working hard. My dad being on nine,

879
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: I guaranteed contracts throughout the end, throughout his NBA career,

880
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: and I got to see him at a young age

881
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: obviously worked really hard, and just to see him how

882
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: hard he worked, which was crazy because he would run

883
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: in like those sweat like trash bag type bags, he

884
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: would go lift, he'd go shoot, he'd go play all

885
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: with him one day and then do everything again the

886
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: next day in the summertime. And so seeing that at

887
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: a young age, I'm not really understanding what it is.

888
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: But as I got older, once I started to work

889
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: all my game and get and start to try and

890
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: get better, I remember those moments I was like, damn,

891
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: like that's what he used to do, and so it

892
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: was similar. I just think that like when he asked

893
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: me every single day, I was like, whatever emotion I

894
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: was feeling, it was, I was, it was like yes,

895
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: And so he pushed me and pushed me. At the

896
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: older I got like obviously more conversations we had, like

897
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: it was like about what I was doing or seeing

898
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: or wherever but when I was younger, it was like

899
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: push push, push to see where I was mentally, to

900
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: see if he could break me, and it was he

901
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: helped me just stay mentally strong.

902
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 6: Did you guys play any other sports like growing up

903
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 6: or in middle school or high school?

904
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: I mean I played. I played Hot Warner football. Actually

905
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: my football coach was Vince Papali. Yeah, Vince Papali was

906
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: my football coach, and I played with his son for

907
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: like two or three years. But I was I was

908
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: asked football. I just it was too cold. I'd rather

909
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: played indoor sport anyway. I played baseball. I played soccer,

910
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: But I mean I moved like six or seven times

911
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: before I went to college, and so I had to

912
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: I had to like get up and find a new team.

913
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: And basta was just the easiest thing to just do

914
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: for me, and obviously I loved it.

915
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 2: More I tried football, I didn't really like because they

916
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: I was like a little bit of a bigger kid

917
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: when I was younger, so I kept one of you

918
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: to play offensive line and it was no fun. So

919
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: I kind of gave up on that one. I played

920
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: baseball middle school till like my freshman year of high school.

921
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: And then I stopped and it was just basketball.

922
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 4: Eli.

923
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: What was your We're doing some research so that you

924
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: or you just mentioned obviously too that you played basketball

925
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: high school.

926
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: What was your What was your game?

927
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 6: Like my game, you know, I could score. I could

928
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 6: score twenty one game and then not shoot the next game.

929
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 6: It was like the motion offense. You had to pass

930
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 6: five times before you could shoot like that that style.

931
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 6: So like I would have to you know, get open

932
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 6: on screens or back you know, back cuts and and

933
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff. I was good, good passer, good,

934
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 6: you know, good kind of seeing everything going on. But

935
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 6: like I wasn't I wasn't shooting threes. I wasn't you know,

936
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 6: creating a lot of like one on one shots. I

937
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 6: was gonna lay ups and free throws. Uh, you know,

938
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 6: offensive rebounds. Kind of the ugly, ugly game, but you know,

939
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 6: get in there.

940
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: It sounds like a Princeton offense to me, exactly.

941
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 6: That's that was like the It was like the Princeton offense.

942
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 6: That's that's what our coach.

943
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: It sounds like you were an ethical player though you

944
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: didn't do anything like you didn't try to like manipulate

945
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: the game to get to the free throw line or

946
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: to get you know, you know, your shots or anything

947
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: like you played the game the right way, like.

948
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: When you played football.

949
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 4: It sounds like a shot was taken there a little bit.

950
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: It was definitely a shot when you when you got

951
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: on the field, right. Obviously there's games within the game.

952
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: You're trying to manipulate the game to keep to have

953
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: an advantage for your team. Correct.

954
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, that's all.

955
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 6: If you can find little loopholes, you can find, you know,

956
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 6: ways to be successful or or you know, hey, get

957
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 6: your points, get wins.

958
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 4: That's what it's all about.

959
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: Exactly. Unethical, my ass.

960
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 2: I'm not calling I'm just saying, you know, those are

961
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: the words in the street. You know, I would never

962
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: I would never call it.

963
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 6: No, No, I knew, I knew you were kind of

964
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 6: cool someone else third parties?

965
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: What was that?

966
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know not not after that unbelievable kind of

967
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: captain note you left him.

968
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 4: I would never expect that from you, exactly, and that

969
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 4: introduction you gave me. I mean, everything's just the top quality.

970
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate So.

971
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: Josh Lee, how do you how would you say your

972
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: workouts compare as the season gets closer versus maybe earlier

973
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: in the summer, Like, is there a difference. Does that

974
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 3: different show up in your whoop stats, your HRV recovery

975
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: anything like that.

976
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a little different because I feel like

977
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: I started getting a little bit more active and I

978
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: started having more kind of a higher strain towards the

979
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: end of end of the summer. The beginning of the summer.

980
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: You know, I'm getting you know, I'm getting shots up,

981
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: you know, but I'm not I'm not working out five

982
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: days a week or six days a week doing you know,

983
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 2: full skill stuff. You know that I kind of eased

984
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: my body into it, you know, and I'll do three

985
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: days a week of heavy skill work and a couple

986
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: of days of just shooting, and then go to four

987
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 2: days and go to five days. I don't really play,

988
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: you know, five on final or open runs that much

989
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: in the summer until you know, September when you're getting

990
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 2: kind of ready for camp. So now the workouts are

991
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: definitely starting to get a little bit more cardio based

992
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: and you know, getting up and down the floor. You know,

993
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: obviously still let the weights, but making sure I'm in

994
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: good shape to start training camp and making sure my

995
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: body is strong to start the season. It kind of

996
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: lasts me throughout the season because it's hard to you know,

997
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: for weight wise and strength to continue to climb. During

998
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: the season, it's mostly about maintaining. So I'm trying to

999
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: guess strong as I can until then and then just

1000
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: maintain it.

1001
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: So would you say as we get closer to the season,

1002
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: if you were looking at like your whooped, would you

1003
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: say that your recovery is generally higher as it gets closer,

1004
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: You're sort of giving yourself, your body a little bit

1005
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: of a rest before things really eat up.

1006
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. It's you know, in the summer,

1007
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: you know, sometime in Miami, you know it's go out.

1008
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: You know, we go out to dinner. We don't really

1009
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: go out that much, but you know we we like

1010
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 2: going to dinners and you know, have some wine and

1011
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: cocktails and stuff like that. And you know, getting to September,

1012
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 2: it's more so everything is gearing up, preparing for the season.

1013
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 2: So as sleep is, you know, I'm getting more sleep,

1014
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: I'm in bed earlier, I'm getting you know, the working

1015
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: that I'm getting naps in. During the day, I'm doing

1016
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: you know, doing more recovery work, you know, work to

1017
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: make sure my body is ready for the season, but

1018
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 2: I'm not doing you know, as much, you know, going

1019
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 2: out to you know, you know, Miami. Sometimes you'll be

1020
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: at dinner till eleven, twelve o'clock, So not really doing

1021
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: that too much anymore. So it's really more so about

1022
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: you know that car don't getting my body ready for

1023
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: the season, but also making sure I'm giving my body

1024
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 2: time the rest of recovery.

1025
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously like that we did.

1026
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: We just got back from like a long weekend vacation,

1027
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: but it was it was a family vacation, so it

1028
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: wasn't really you know, we weren't, like I said, going

1029
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 3: out or anything like that, but it was. It was

1030
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: nice because I would say that if you look at

1031
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 3: our recovery and sleep really over the last like fourth day,

1032
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: it's got to be pretty nice because we just kept it,

1033
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: kept it low key, really didn't do anything. It didn't

1034
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 3: work out, so the recovery is for sure.

1035
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, mine, I actually did my my whoop actually

1036
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: ran out of charge and I didn't charge it the

1037
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 2: night because we were on like I said, you were

1038
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: on a long we were on a long vacation. I

1039
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: was sick all day yesterday and it kind of started

1040
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: the night before and I and my whoop died, and

1041
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: I'm just like I had no energy to like go

1042
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: find my charger and doing that, and I just knew

1043
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: my recovery that'd be bad. The next day, you know,

1044
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: I was sick. I barely slept the next day. I

1045
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: was tossing and turning the whole time. I sick the

1046
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: whole time. So I'm happy I actually don't have my

1047
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: recovery for those you know, two nights that I was sick,

1048
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 2: because I probably would be in the riot. It would

1049
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: be I probably would have been like one percent. I

1050
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: probably would have had to hide it, hide the metrics.

1051
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 2: So luckily, I was so fatigued that I just didn't

1052
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: even like try to go for my charge because I

1053
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: didn't want to see my recover.

1054
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 3: It be makes sense, awesome, Well, join woop for free

1055
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,400
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1056
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: You like, what's it?

1057
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: Uh, what's it been like for for your family to see, uh,

1058
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 3: see Arch doing his thing at Texas?

1059
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: Obviously had two touchdowns last game. How has that been?

1060
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: And obviously he broke broke some records of yours.

1061
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, he broke.

1062
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, broke all my high school records and Peyton's uh, you.

1063
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 4: Know which I'm I'm all for it.

1064
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 6: I'm a I'm all for records being broken, and and

1065
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 6: we've you know, he's my my nephew, so I'm always

1066
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 6: always tried to help him and and uh and support

1067
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 6: him in any way. So I was excited to see

1068
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 6: him get some action this weekend and get it, get

1069
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 6: in the game, have a couple of good drives, get

1070
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 6: a rushing touchdown, get his first passing touchdown. So I

1071
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 6: sent him a text. You know, he had had a

1072
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 6: great game. His his last play or his last pass.

1073
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 6: You know, I kind of looked at it. It was,

1074
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 6: you know, he tried to throw it out. It seemed

1075
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 6: like he tried to force it out to the left.

1076
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 6: From the TV version. I couldn't see the coverage, but

1077
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 6: looked like, you know, it looked like he maybe forced

1078
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 6: it or had a misread. He came to the sideline

1079
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 6: and and sarked the head coaches kind of in his ear.

1080
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: Looked like he was ripping them a little bit. And

1081
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: so I sent him a text.

1082
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 6: ARCHI text, It's like, hey, you know, good game, makes

1083
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 6: some nice plays. Hey, last play looks like you know,

1084
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 6: they rolled, they kind of rolled to cover too, and

1085
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 6: you try to force it out to the single receiver

1086
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 6: instead of working the three receiver concept to the right.

1087
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 6: He's like, yes, exactly, exactly right. You know, I miss

1088
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 6: misread that one, which is you know, good, Hey, you're you're,

1089
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 6: you know, young quarterback getting your first action. You're gonna

1090
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 6: have mistakes, You're gonna have misreads. Every opportunity is a

1091
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 6: learning experience. And and you know, I've been there before

1092
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 6: where you're like, hey, oh I got this play, I'm

1093
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 6: the working my receiver to the left, and all of

1094
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 6: a sudden they play a defense and and disguise something

1095
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 6: and you still do it even you know, just because

1096
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 6: you're predetermine. So I just kind of talked about, hey,

1097
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 6: don't you know, have a plan, but don't predetermine what

1098
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 6: you're gonna do. And then so when something changes or

1099
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 6: they change up the defense, you know, just have your

1100
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 6: have you know, your your progression of what you're in

1101
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 6: go through. So but proud of him, how hard he's worked,

1102
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 6: he's into it, he puts in the work, he puts

1103
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 6: in the grind. He's a good kid and look forward

1104
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 6: to you know, getting getting getting to see him play

1105
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 6: some more this season and next season.

1106
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: When you guys hear ELI talk about like reads and

1107
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 3: everything like that, do you because for me, I'm like I.

1108
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: I maybe it says I grew up around basketball and

1109
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 3: I'm around you guys, But when I hear high level

1110
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: basketball talk, a lot of it makes sense. When I

1111
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 3: hear I talk about quarterback, quarterback is the most it

1112
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 3: has to be the most cerebral position in any sport.

1113
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 4: Really, I was.

1114
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: I was before we got on. I was just playing

1115
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: NCAA football in my little glory mode. I rode to

1116
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: glory as a quarterback, and I'm playing I'm in my

1117
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: guys in Michigan. I'm playing Ohio State. You know one

1118
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 2: verse two. And when I tell you, I've had to

1119
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: quit this game twice because the first one I threw

1120
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: three interceptions, the next one I threw it interception, and

1121
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: then I scrambled on the next possession and I fumbled.

1122
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you I can't read coverage like I can't.

1123
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: I suck at this game. I'm the court. I should

1124
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: have been like a running back or something where I

1125
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: didn't have to make these reads because literally all I

1126
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: do is throw drag routes to my tight end and

1127
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: hopefully he can get like ten yards or scramble because

1128
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: I can't read the coverage to save my life.

1129
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 6: That's hey, every quarterback, well I have a good tight end.

1130
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 6: That's why I Kelsey tight end is That's that's the

1131
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 6: safe guy. Like you don't have to recoverages in the

1132
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 6: middle of the field. It's a man zone. Is a

1133
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 6: guy open, not open outside. There's a lot going on

1134
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 6: receivers and the you know, coverages, they can double guys,

1135
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 6: they can do a lot of stuff in the middle.

1136
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: It's it's a lot of one on one.

1137
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 6: Even if it is zone defense, it's still one on one.

1138
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: That's why you love. You love your tight ends. Worth

1139
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 4: the tight end all day. That's good.

1140
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 2: That's what the JB's like, Eli, you know, he he

1141
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: does all day. He reads the coverage and all that.

1142
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: I'm just like Jeremy Shockey. I just like go and

1143
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: just like you know, you know, go over the middle.

1144
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 2: You know I'm open to exactly.

1145
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 4: Put the hand, put the hands up.

1146
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 6: You don't get the ball, I'm open, exactly.

1147
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: That's it. Now I'm mistaking. I'm like, you know, I'm

1148
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: going to be over the middle. You know, if you

1149
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: read the coverage and you throw it at me, up,

1150
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: I'll catch it.

1151
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 4: Would be good, I'll catch it. There you go. You're

1152
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 4: the tight end.

1153
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: I like it exactly. Everybody needs a good tight end.

1154
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1155
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: But but I am curious of the because your first

1156
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: number one, uh pick in any sport we've had on

1157
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: the pod, JB was thirty three. I was thirty Matt

1158
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: was undrafted.

1159
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: Why do you have to throw that?

1160
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: It's like I was undrafted.

1161
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: That was undrafted? What? Yeah, yeah, he's still waiting. What

1162
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: was that process like for you? Like, you know, are

1163
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: you how many teams are you working now? I vaguely

1164
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: remember like a little bit of the the ELI draft,

1165
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: you know, process left story but.

1166
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: You were no.

1167
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: But but wasn't whold up? But wasn't it wasn't half

1168
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 2: of it? Like, yo, he's not going there?

1169
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: Yes, so I see JB.

1170
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: I was a young boy, but I remember. I remember

1171
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: it was the Chargers, wasn't it.

1172
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 4: The Chargers had the first pick, and.

1173
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 6: LIGHTLY asked them if they would this not not draft

1174
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 6: me with the first pick?

1175
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 4: And uh, they didn't.

1176
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 6: They didn't think that was very nice of me to

1177
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 6: say that and so they you know, they kind of

1178
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 6: broke the news and told everybody I'd asked them not

1179
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 6: to not to pick me, and uh so that was

1180
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 6: that was stressful, Like it's supposed to be an exciting

1181
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 6: time you're going to the NFL. I didn't really care

1182
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 6: where I was drafted. I didn't care about going one

1183
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 6: or being a certain number. I just you know, didn't

1184
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 6: feel like that was gonna be the right spot for me,

1185
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 6: and and and and wouldn't have it, you know, as

1186
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 6: could a chance to be successful there for and so

1187
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 6: I tried to dictate kind of where I wanted to

1188
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 6: go and see if it would work, and it did.

1189
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 6: The Chargers ended up drafting me, and like basically like

1190
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 6: thirty or forty minutes later, the Giants had drafted Philip

1191
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,280
Speaker 6: Rivers and then we traded, but they had that worked

1192
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 6: out before. I didn't know that though, So I was

1193
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 6: like forty minutes of doing interviews as a Charger deal

1194
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 6: with all this, and then got traded to the Giants

1195
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 6: and was happy, happy to come to New York just

1196
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 6: because you know, they just the Giants and their there

1197
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,720
Speaker 6: New York. And the Giant said, it's a history of

1198
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 6: of just just success and great ownership and and great

1199
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 6: teams and just a great culture.

1200
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 4: And so I was excited to come come here, and

1201
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 4: there you go. The rest is history.

1202
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: Am I reading correctly too? That they used that trade

1203
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 3: to they ended up getting Sean Merriman because of it.

1204
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 6: They did, so they went Sean Merriman was a beast,

1205
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 6: was a beast, and they end up like they end up.

1206
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 6: The Chargers turned it around pretty quickly. Drew they had

1207
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 6: they had Drew Brees already, they drafted him two years before.

1208
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 6: He ended up playing well like the next couple of

1209
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 6: years there and became a pro bowler. Philip Rivers sat

1210
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 6: for two years. Drew got hurt and then got you know,

1211
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 6: went to New Orleans after Sean Merriman was a beast. Uh,

1212
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 6: Damian Thomlinson was there was just you know coming coming around.

1213
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 6: I remember like on my interview, you know, when I

1214
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 6: was going through the process working out for Sandy, you know,

1215
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 6: They're like, hey, we got this guy. He actually played

1216
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 6: basketball in college, but he's gon be an unbelievable player.

1217
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 6: He's a tight end. Antonio Gates is his name, and

1218
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 6: might yeah, right, like a basketball player. Never really played

1219
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 6: college like one of the chances this guy's any good,

1220
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 6: Like no one ever heard of him, never seeing him.

1221
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 6: He was a practice squad guy. Like yeah, sure, like

1222
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 6: this is what we're dealing with. Sure enough, the guy

1223
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 6: you know comes with the all time great tight ends

1224
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 6: in the history. But uh, you know, they put it

1225
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 6: together and you know, ended up being you know, hey,

1226
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 6: playing the AOC change hip games and having a good,

1227
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 6: you know, good squad.

1228
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 4: But at the at the time, I didn't. I didn't know.

1229
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: It just didn't seem it wasn't didn't seem like the

1230
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: right vibe for me. I didn't realize.

1231
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 3: So you I guess your first year you backed up

1232
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 3: Kurt Warner and then you started your second year. What

1233
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: was what was that like, sort of backing him up,

1234
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 3: learning from him, shaping all the team.

1235
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 4: It was, it was great.

1236
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 6: It was super helpful for me, uh to sit I

1237
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 6: sat like the first first nine games of my rookie

1238
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 6: year and then became the starter, you know, week week

1239
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 6: ten of that year. So I think it was it

1240
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 6: was helpful sitting those nine games, watching you know, a

1241
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 6: veteran quarterback, how he prepared, how he got ready for

1242
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 6: each game, learning the different styles of defenses, going on

1243
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 6: what what plays worked well against different styles and just

1244
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 6: seeing how he played.

1245
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 4: The game and handle all the situations.

1246
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 6: And then I've got in. It wasn't pretty at first,

1247
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 6: had had some rough games, had a zero quarterback rating

1248
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 6: against the you know, against Baltimore. It felt like, Josh

1249
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 6: in this in this college football game. I guess it's

1250
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 6: doing lots of interceptions. Uh, getting frustrated, But yeah, I

1251
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 6: think the only way to learn is to go through

1252
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 6: those experiences and go, you know, get live action. And

1253
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 6: so it got a little bit better each week, you know,

1254
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 6: got comfortable, and then started the next year and we

1255
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 6: went eleven and five the next year, won the NFC

1256
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 6: East and you know, didn't play awesome, but played good

1257
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 6: enough to win games and getting the field forwarding and

1258
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 6: just making those improvements.

1259
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 4: So it was definitely helpful to sit behind Kurt.

1260
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: But I'm also happy I played some that first year

1261
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 6: to just understand what it takes, what the preparation takes

1262
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 6: to get ready for each week.

1263
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: Josh mm hmm. What was the what was the topic

1264
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: of conversation last year? It was like like basketball players

1265
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: versus like football players, Like could basketball players come play

1266
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: football or versus Yeah, what was the what was the topic?

1267
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: Basically, Yeah, how many basketball players to go play football?

1268
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: And then how many like football players can play basketball.

1269
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: Eli if you could five players that played basketball that

1270
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: you think could play football, and then five football players

1271
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: who you think could play basketball.

1272
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 6: I mean I saw, I saw Lebron played a little

1273
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 6: basket a little a little high school football. I mean

1274
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 6: think about hey, to have like, yeah, I have a

1275
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 6: you know, a six seven, two hundred and sixty pound guy,

1276
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 6: like you probably find a spot for him to play

1277
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 6: the receiver or put him at you know, free safety

1278
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 6: or something.

1279
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: Uh, he's got some range, you know. I mean it's

1280
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 4: just like such a.

1281
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 6: I mean just going old school, like an Alan Iverson

1282
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 6: or you know, I think he played some high I

1283
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 6: remember seeing Alan I play some high school football, run

1284
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 6: in the the you know, veer and running the option.

1285
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 4: He was pretty shifty, uh guy.

1286
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 6: So I think I think I think a lot of

1287
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 6: basketball players could shift over to football because football, like

1288
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 6: you don't have to have a like a very specific skill.

1289
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 6: It's not like, hey, you have to have run a

1290
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 6: thousand routes. And if you can run and you can jump,

1291
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 6: or you have some some physicalness to you like we

1292
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 6: can find a spot for you on a football field somewhere. Like,

1293
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 6: you know, you gotta have a little toughness to you

1294
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 6: and and then you know, if you have the work mentality,

1295
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 6: we can work those things out. So I think I

1296
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 6: think there's definitely some guys that can that could transition

1297
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 6: to a tight end to a defensive.

1298
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Speaker 4: Guy, uh and make some plays.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think football guys going to play basketball,

1300
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 6: you have some guys who can run and jump and

1301
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 6: and do the dunks. But can they you know, you know,

1302
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 6: just you know, make all the shots and and do

1303
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 6: all that. That's that's the difference. Going to sit outside

1304
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 6: and make you know, make enough threes and and and.

1305
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 4: Do those things.

1306
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 6: I think a lot of them couldn't do it, and

1307
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 6: that's why they're playing football.

1308
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham played a lot of basketball, didn't he.

1309
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: Miami?

1310
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's probably up there.

1311
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly. I mean he's a guy who did hit play.

1312
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 6: But you know, but like you know, there's probably wasn't

1313
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 6: good enough. You know, he saw the future. Hey, not

1314
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 6: good enough. I'm six five, you know, he's not six

1315
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 6: y nine. Those six or five guys that can run

1316
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 6: and jump, Hey, let's you know, if he's physical, he

1317
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 6: can block a little bit.

1318
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 3: He was.

1319
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 6: He was an unbelievable tight end for a long time,

1320
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 6: just range, could you know, jump up, go over the

1321
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 6: fenders and and you know.

1322
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: He was a mismatch.

1323
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 6: You know, there was such an advantage him on linebackers

1324
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 6: because he was so much more athletic and bigger size.

1325
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 3: We had a Chadow Josinco on the pod and he's

1326
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 3: convinced that he can beat both of these guys one

1327
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 3: on one.

1328
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 6: Of course, of course one on one, there's like not

1329
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 6: necessarily Chad, but with some of these guys maybe one

1330
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 6: on one. There's a chance that some of these guys

1331
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 6: could beat some some some.

1332
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: Guys for sure.

1333
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 2: For sure, you can only be an e score one

1334
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: on one.

1335
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 4: That would it was exactly that would be a good there.

1336
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 6: That would be like a good show maybe like NFL

1337
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 6: Verse basketball one on one basketball and then you know, yeah,

1338
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 6: that could be good.

1339
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: Josh, remember it, there's a there's a video of me

1340
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: ethically kicking your ass that is not out there publicly yet.

1341
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 2: Oh and one on one, one on one, hoopes Eli,

1342
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: it was it was it was a friendly game. It

1343
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: was after practice.

1344
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: You know.

1345
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I'm just out there trying to

1346
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: have fun, get you know, getting getting clips for this,

1347
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: the video, the kid, the video we were doing, but

1348
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: there was no substance to it at all.

1349
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 4: I believe you. I believe you, Josh.

1350
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: One day, one day, the video will come out.

1351
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: One day, ELI do that before we go back to

1352
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: the NFL. I do have a question for you. If

1353
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 2: you played now and like college is right now, how

1354
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 2: much n I L money thing you can get.

1355
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 4: I don't know, we're all part of the n I L.

1356
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 6: It's that before you did y'all have any was all before,

1357
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 6: right ya? Partaking that?

1358
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: I wish, I wish.

1359
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1360
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 6: The whole NIL thing is is I have mixed mixed

1361
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 6: emotions about it. I'm fine with with college guys getting

1362
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 6: paid because I see it like the business side of

1363
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 6: this thing and schools are making a ton of money

1364
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 6: and there's TV rights and there's so much going on

1365
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 6: that they should be rewarded because I mean they're, hey,

1366
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 6: they're on TV, they're selling jerseys, they're selling tickets, and

1367
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 6: you know, it's a great product and they should be,

1368
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 6: you know, should be financially rewarded. I'm good with that

1369
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 6: the whole the whole transferring thing so easily kind of

1370
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 6: bothers me that like, hey, you play a year, you

1371
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 6: have success, and it's like, all right, you know, f

1372
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 6: you I'm going I'm going over here to play now

1373
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 6: because they're gonna pay me, you know, one hundred thousand

1374
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 6: dollars more or whatever the number is. It's just I

1375
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 6: feel like there's zero loyalty to your to your college now.

1376
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 6: And I mean, I'm sure this probably came up with

1377
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 6: I don't know if it came up you guys. But

1378
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 6: when I was, you know, thinking about where I wanted

1379
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 6: to go to college, there was like some thought of, hey,

1380
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 6: if I go here and I you know, never become

1381
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 6: the starter, I don't play it down of football. Will

1382
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 6: I be happy at this school? Do I like my teammates?

1383
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 6: Do I like my coach? Do I like the atmosphere

1384
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 6: where I'm going to And I don't think anybody is

1385
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 6: making a decision based on that anymore. They're basically basically like,

1386
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 6: you know, how much money am I gonna make right now?

1387
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 6: It's all a financial decision. And and you know, if

1388
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 6: they go and get coached and the coach that yells

1389
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 6: at them, I feel like they're a little sensitive, like, well,

1390
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna leave this coach is me and I'm

1391
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 6: gonna go somewhere else.

1392
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 4: Like they have an easy escape to get out.

1393
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 6: Of that scenario instead of like grinding through the process

1394
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 6: having some you know, some tough times or being coached

1395
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 6: or or you know, having to you know, sit for

1396
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 6: a year and wait and and like earn your spot

1397
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 6: and and but you know, then I ll, hey, these

1398
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 6: guys want to get want to get rewarded and and

1399
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,439
Speaker 6: paid or do some endorsements.

1400
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 4: I'm all for it.

1401
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 6: I think it's a great opportunity for them. Hopefully they

1402
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 6: make good decisions. I think if I was eighteen years

1403
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 6: old and someone put a bunch of money in my pocket,

1404
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 6: would I make good decisions? Probably not, you know, but

1405
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 6: you know, so hopefully these guys can make better decisions

1406
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 6: than I were. I think I think players now have

1407
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 6: a lot, you know, more conscious of their decision making,

1408
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 6: Social media, everything going on, Like they know if they

1409
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 6: screw up, it's going to be out there, and it's

1410
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 6: it's out there forever. So they have that mentality where

1411
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 6: I think when I was going through there's no social media,

1412
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 6: there's no camera foam, you can kind of make a

1413
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 6: lot of bad decisions and make mistakes and no one

1414
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 6: would know about it.

1415
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: Do you think nil is the reason a lot of

1416
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: these like legendary coaches are just getting out of the game,

1417
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: like they're retiring and then just they're done with it.

1418
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, because I think one hundred percent, because they're

1419
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 6: just I mean, a lot of these guys were great recruiters.

1420
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 6: You know, they go in, they have a great program,

1421
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 6: they have a great culture there, and they recruit, you know,

1422
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 6: a style of player that they want that's you know,

1423
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 6: it matches the character and the talent fit is going

1424
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 6: to fit the mold of this and all right, boom,

1425
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 6: I put a lot of time into this kid. We

1426
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 6: got them he's coming to our school. We got him

1427
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 6: for the next four years, and we can groom him,

1428
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 6: we can work him. We can you know, uh, you know,

1429
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 6: turn him into the player you know that he wants

1430
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 6: to become. And then you know, now you've got to

1431
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 6: recruit him again. After their fresh freshman year, they Hey,

1432
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 6: I know I didn't play coach, but I had a

1433
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 6: great spring. You said, I've made a lot of improvements.

1434
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 6: I'd like to renegotiate my contract. They're they're not free

1435
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 6: agents every year. They're free agents twice a year in football,

1436
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 6: they are. They're free agents like after the season and

1437
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 6: then again after the spring. So if they don't, you know,

1438
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 6: if they don't get enough playing time in the spring,

1439
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 6: they're going to go into the portal. Even if they're

1440
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 6: doing well, they go to the portal just to you know,

1441
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 6: kind of get re recruited, hoping the at.

1442
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: Their own school someone what would do?

1443
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And so that's just not that's not the

1444
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 4: right the right way of doing this.

1445
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 6: And you know, you're getting agents involved, You're getting you know,

1446
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 6: I know there's always kind of you know, maybe been

1447
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 6: agents or people in these young young people's year tell

1448
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 6: them they should be doing this or that. But now

1449
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 6: they're listening more, I think, and so you could just

1450
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 6: be getting a lot of bad advice or or people

1451
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 6: in your year worrying about things that maybe aren't the

1452
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 6: most important thing instead of just hey, work on getting

1453
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 6: an education, becoming a better player or whatever. You know,

1454
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 6: you've you've got a scholarship to go play at this university,

1455
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 6: like go earn earn that scholarship instead of.

1456
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 4: You know, so concerned about, you know, how much how

1457
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 4: much money you're getting paid. So that's that's the only

1458
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 4: thing that that bothers me a little bit.

1459
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 1: Do you was there a school or a coach that

1460
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: came to you and pitched their school in the situations

1461
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: that you were like, damn, I really really really liked

1462
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: this place. But then obviously chose All miss and said,

1463
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 1: but was there a place that you were like, damn,

1464
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: I really see myself here, like I could I could

1465
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: really make this decision to go here?

1466
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I was. I was very close, actually

1467
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 6: very close to going to Texas. Mac Brown was the

1468
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 6: head coach uh there, he's at North Carolina now where

1469
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 6: he started, and so like Texas, like Austin, I mean,

1470
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 6: just the atmosphere of the facilities, everything they had going there.

1471
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 6: Ricky Williams was there at the time, they had a

1472
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 6: Heisman guy. They were good there were you know, and

1473
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 6: so just just like the whole thing, and was probably

1474
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 6: going there. And then you know, David Cutcliffe was the

1475
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 6: offensive coordinator at Tennessee. He was Peyton's offensive coordinator, had

1476
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 6: a great relationship with with him.

1477
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 4: He left Tennessee and became the head coach.

1478
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 6: At Old Miss and then kind of they did a

1479
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 6: full court press on me to to come to Old Miss.

1480
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 6: And you know, my dad Old Miss, so I grew

1481
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 6: up a fan there. But what was looking at a

1482
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 6: lot of schools and looking at different places for college

1483
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 6: and when you see, you know, make sure I was

1484
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 6: going to the right fit, right off fence, the right things,

1485
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 6: and I just I love coach coach cut Cliffs offence.

1486
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 6: I thought he could make me a better quarterback. He

1487
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 6: had trained a lot of great quarterbacks with Peyton uh

1488
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 6: Heath Shuler like put you know, putting guys in the NFL.

1489
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 4: And so I just felt that I was.

1490
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 6: Gonna be happy at this school and I was gonna

1491
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 6: get coached well and could become a better a better

1492
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 6: player there. And so that's what ultimately led me to

1493
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 6: go to Old Miss and not not Texas.

1494
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 3: Speaking of coaching, I think when you look at a

1495
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 3: lot of the great franchises that were great for a while,

1496
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 3: the common threat is that they usually have obviously a

1497
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 3: great quarterback and a great coach, and oftentimes they're very

1498
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 3: much in sync. So like, what was it about you

1499
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: and coach Kauflin that made those fifteen years kind of

1500
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 3: so great and allowed you guys to see so much success.

1501
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 4: I think you know, coach Coach Coughlin is very intense.

1502
01:10:59,479 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 2: Uh.

1503
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 6: He he has like his quirks and his rules. You

1504
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 6: have to be five minutes early to every meeting. So

1505
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 6: every meeting, you know, if it says we have a

1506
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 6: meeting at seven forty five, it really starts at seven

1507
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 6: forty And if you're not like in your chair and

1508
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 6: ready to go, you know he's gonna be there at

1509
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 6: like seven, you know, thirty five, Like send it at

1510
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 6: the front, just like waiting for everybody to get there.

1511
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 4: And if you're late, like you're get in trouble.

1512
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 6: If you don't practice hard and you don't study and

1513
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 6: know what's going on, he's not gonna like you. And

1514
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 6: and so if like if you if you show up

1515
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 6: on time, you like football and you work really hard,

1516
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 6: he didn't have a problem with you.

1517
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 4: And he and he appreciates you and loves you, and

1518
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 4: you have a great relationship.

1519
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 6: And like some people had a hard time with that,

1520
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 6: and I grew up with the you know that mentality

1521
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 6: that's like what you're.

1522
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: Supposed to do.

1523
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 6: Enjoy your work, work really hard, and be respectful and

1524
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 6: be on time to things or be early. And so

1525
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 6: I did those things and we had a great communication

1526
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 6: on on on the work part of it, on getting better.

1527
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 4: I was.

1528
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 6: I took to coaching. I didn't mind being yelled at.

1529
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 6: I actually loved being yelled at. But I like being coached.

1530
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 6: I always told my quarterback coach court like, coach me up,

1531
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 6: like every day I should learn something or I should

1532
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 6: you know, I should see something I made a mistake

1533
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 6: on that I need to fix.

1534
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 4: If like, if you're not.

1535
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 6: Telling me something every day, then I feel like we

1536
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 6: wasted a day and I'm not going to have something

1537
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 6: to work on the next day to get better. And

1538
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 6: so I appreciate being coached, and he liked coaching, and

1539
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 6: so we got along well that way. And so I think,

1540
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of guys that don't like

1541
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 6: being coached necessarily more they think they have it all

1542
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 6: figured out, and when you try to get on them,

1543
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 6: they get a little sensitive.

1544
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 4: And so I think that's a you know, a quality.

1545
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of good players, great players say

1546
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 6: they want to be coached up and they and that's

1547
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 6: kind of what drives them to get better every day.

1548
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 2: I got so you guys won in oh wait and

1549
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: twelve right, so obviously O wait was the helmet cap?

1550
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: But before that, like you always see clips of like

1551
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: super Bowl week, how hard is it at times to

1552
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 2: focus on the game when you have so many different

1553
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: media obligations and whatever you guys have to do that

1554
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: whole week.

1555
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not too bad.

1556
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 6: I mean you have two weeks before the Super Bowl,

1557
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 6: before like the NFC championship game in the Super Bowl,

1558
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 6: so which is long.

1559
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 4: Like normally you have one week before every game.

1560
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 6: So now you have like a few days to the

1561
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 6: plan and you're just your schedules a little bit off.

1562
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 6: Like we're so used, like our work week is the

1563
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 6: same every single week. I mean we're always at home.

1564
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 6: We're in our own facility, we practice at our own place,

1565
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 6: Like every Monday is the same, Every Friday is the same,

1566
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 6: And the only difference is on Saturday is are you

1567
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 6: traveling to a game or you stay at home at

1568
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,799
Speaker 6: the game? Like that's the only difference for twenty weeks

1569
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 6: in a row, and then all of a sudden, like

1570
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 6: this week, you know, you're the first week you're kind

1571
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 6: of at home, but you're getting you know, ay tickets

1572
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 6: and where are people staying and you have some practices,

1573
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 6: and then the next week you go on Monday, you

1574
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 6: have like the Hoopla media Day on Tuesday, and then

1575
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 6: you really kind of start your week over again. And

1576
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 6: Wednesday through Sunday are the same, but you're in a hotel,

1577
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 6: you don't have your own facility, you're taking buses to practice.

1578
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 6: Your family's kind of at a different hotel. So like

1579
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 6: everything is just at a whack a little bit, and

1580
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 6: so that's that's probably the hardest part, is trying to

1581
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 6: keep that same routine when you're in a different place.

1582
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 6: And like on you know, on Thursday, after practice, I

1583
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 6: would always kind of get you know, get a massage

1584
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 6: and get stretched and and do all these things like, hey,

1585
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 6: my guys in New Jersey, Like, how do I do

1586
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 6: that again? Am I flying them to Arizona? Am I

1587
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 6: getting a new person there? On Friday nights, I'd always

1588
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 6: you know, go to go to dinner with my wife,

1589
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 6: Like where am I going.

1590
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 4: To dinner at this place? You know what's going to

1591
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:01,799
Speaker 4: be a good spot.

1592
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 6: Like you're just out of your your comfort level a

1593
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 6: little bit, and so it's just trying to trying to

1594
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 6: keep it as as normal as possible, even though you're

1595
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 6: about to play the biggest game of your life and

1596
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 6: everything's out of whack and you know, you're watching you

1597
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 6: don't have your normal film and your and your practice facility.

1598
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 6: You're like in a hotel room and it's it's you know,

1599
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 6: it's not always open at times. It's just everything's a

1600
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 6: little difficult. So that was it wasn't so much the

1601
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 6: media and the things going around, and it was just

1602
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 6: being in a different place.

1603
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 4: And when you're in the most critical moments of your career, what.

1604
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: Was that two year stretch like where Peyton wins it

1605
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 3: in seven and then you win it the next year?

1606
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: I mean, how is that?

1607
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 3: It's like inexplainable for your for for a family.

1608
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think I I I think seeing

1609
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 6: Peyton win it definitely gave a little extra motivation for me.

1610
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 6: I saw, you know, just the permanent smile on that

1611
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 6: big face of his, you know, for like a whole year,

1612
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 6: and it's like everybody congratulating him, and I'm around and

1613
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 6: I got to hear all this and I got to

1614
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 6: see him just you know, just just being very proud

1615
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 6: and happy as he should be, as everybody is, and

1616
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 6: I'm like, I want that, like I want that feeling

1617
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 6: of just being, you know, the world champions and to

1618
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 6: being the best in that year you're the best team

1619
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 6: and just the permanent smile on your face for that

1620
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 6: for that.

1621
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 4: Six months until the season starts again.

1622
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 6: And it was definitely a little motivation of that off

1623
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 6: season of the work and dedication and coming together and

1624
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 6: trying to do it now I didn't know you can

1625
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 6: actually be done, but just trying to you know, get

1626
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 6: better from the year before and make those strides to improvement,

1627
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 6: to get that same feeling.

1628
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,680
Speaker 3: And to do it against the sixteen and oh Patriots

1629
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 3: who are on the brink of like a record record

1630
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 3: set season.

1631
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think, you know, I think Tom went

1632
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 6: too happy about that one. I don't like, I never

1633
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 6: bring it up anything up to Brady. He's got seven

1634
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 6: super balls and everything, but he brings up that that year,

1635
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 6: that game. He's still I think a little bitter about

1636
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 6: that one because they would go down as the greatest

1637
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 6: team of all time and even though they might have been,

1638
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 6: they can't say that, and they can't, you know, because

1639
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 6: they didn't they.

1640
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 4: Didn't win the championship, and they lost They lost that game.

1641
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 2: So, so what was going what was going through your

1642
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 2: mind during that play that helped it catch play? What

1643
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: and the end of the game, fourth quarter? Need to

1644
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 2: need a drive to win it? What's going through your mind?

1645
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, just you know kind of like, hey, this this

1646
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 6: is not good, Like this is not a good situation.

1647
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 6: We're in here right right here, which fourth it's third down,

1648
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 6: it's like third and five. I'm about to get sacked

1649
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 6: if I get sacked as fourth and ten, and it's

1650
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 6: not we don't just need ten yards. We still got

1651
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 6: to score touchdown. Like time is running out and you know,

1652
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 6: scramble out. See you know Tyree in the middle. I

1653
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 6: mean it's not the perfect scenario to throw a ball

1654
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 6: in the middle of the field. You know, you have

1655
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 6: one receiver, they have four defenders kind of around. The

1656
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 6: ball gets bounced if it gets tipped at all, as intercepted,

1657
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 6: game over. And so but it was, hey, we had

1658
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 6: we just we were run out of time. You had

1659
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 6: to try to make him play. So gave my guy

1660
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 6: a chance. And I didn't know if he really caught it.

1661
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 6: I didn't know if it hit the ground. It was

1662
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 6: a lot a lot going on, But you know, he

1663
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 6: had unbelievable effort by by David pulling it off the helmet,

1664
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 6: holding on to it, Rodney Harrison hanging all over him.

1665
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 6: We had to call it time out. It's either replay

1666
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 6: and sure enough, ball never hit the ground. And uh,

1667
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 6: you know a lot of people say I knew you were

1668
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 6: gonna win it after that, I'm like, I didn't. We

1669
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,679
Speaker 6: still had to score tych Now we know we said

1670
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 6: like twenty five more yards.

1671
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 4: We did.

1672
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 6: We couldn't settle for the field goal. We were down four.

1673
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 6: It was touchdown or bust.

1674
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 2: We only do a segment of just some fan questions. Eli,

1675
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 2: So what do we have.

1676
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 6: First a favorite receiver and favorite receiver to throw to

1677
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 6: the one that's open.

1678
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 4: I really don't care. I don't care, I don't have favorites.

1679
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 4: Get open, I'll throw it to you. It's that simple.

1680
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: They're gonna miss a mess, that's the answer. Her question. Oh,

1681
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: we cand of talk about this one, but with himmy Hyatt,

1682
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 2: what was what was the nerve leading up to the

1683
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 2: Super Bowl forty two against the undefeated Patriots.

1684
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I think you're more nervous just about playing

1685
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 6: in a Super Bowl, like this is the biggest game

1686
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 6: I think they should have been more nervous, like we

1687
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 6: were the underdogs. No one gave us a chance. We're

1688
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 6: twelve point underdogs. We had played them the last game

1689
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 6: of the regular season and played them pretty close. We

1690
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 6: had a lead going into the fourth quarter, so I

1691
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 6: really we felt we could beat them.

1692
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 4: Like you go into every game, you always feel like

1693
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 4: you can win.

1694
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 6: And we truly felt like we were play away from

1695
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 6: beating them the last the last game of the regular season,

1696
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 6: and hey, we make one play, we can win this day.

1697
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: At Clutch I was at Clutch Master eighty eight. Most

1698
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 1: challenging defensive player you faced.

1699
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 4: I didn't face something that often, thank goodness. But Ed Reid.

1700
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 4: Ed Reid in free safety was.

1701
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 6: Just a ball hawk, like he was all over the

1702
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 6: place like he he just like you're just scared to

1703
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 6: throw the ball anywhere near him, like you didn't want

1704
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 6: to throw, like he was just like roaming, like he

1705
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 6: just throw the other side. If he was like one

1706
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 6: on one, maybe you could go to him. But he

1707
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 6: just got the tip balls and if you got anywhere

1708
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 6: near him, he was gonna intercept it.

1709
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 3: So Ed Reid for sure, ELI, So you and the

1710
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 3: NFC is you got like what a couple of years

1711
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 3: against Sean Taylor.

1712
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sean Taylor. Sean Taylor was the beast. Just he

1713
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 4: was just he would just take your head off.

1714
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 6: He was just you know, he was gonna hit you

1715
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 6: same thing ball hawk like anywhere near the ball and

1716
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 6: if he got it, he was gonna take.

1717
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 4: It to the house. And so he was, you know,

1718
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 4: just a guy you.

1719
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 6: Always had to be aware of if he was blitzing

1720
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 6: wherever he was in the field, like, hey, where's Taylor?

1721
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 4: Whe's twenty one?

1722
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: I have a fan question from me right at Jalen

1723
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 1: Brentson one the most memorable game for you for the

1724
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: wrong reasons. Uh.

1725
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Speaker 6: Two thousand and seven, So the Super Bowl year were

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Speaker 6: about to you know, we we we got off to

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01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 6: a great start. We were six and two, rolling also

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01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 6: in three game losing streak, and then we we played

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Speaker 6: the we play the Vikings. You know, hey, we was

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01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 6: gonna get back on role here home game, throw four

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01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 6: receptions to return back for touchdowns, like things are going

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Speaker 6: very bad. And it was just you know like oh

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Speaker 6: my god, like this is this is this can be bad.

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Speaker 6: Like it's my fourth year, Colfin's year. If we don't

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Speaker 6: turn around and win. The next week in Chicago, win,

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Speaker 6: the next couple make the playoffs, make a run like

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Speaker 6: I probably out of New York. Like those next few

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01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 6: games dictate my career from being a four year career

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01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 6: to a sixteen year career winning championships, and you just

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01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 6: you know, you know how how fragile this this game

1741
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,719
Speaker 6: can be or a sports career, just like on a

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01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 6: you know, sometimes a few games can make the difference.

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Speaker 1: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: We we all do a pixe me scroll and Eli

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Speaker 2: to end upside. I know you're in a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a time crunch. So this is a quote audio

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Speaker 2: listeners about Eli talking about the Philadelphia fans because how

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Speaker 2: ruthless they are. You go there a nine year old

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Speaker 2: kids giving you the double finger, not a thumbs up,

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01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: not a we'red number one, And he said something about

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01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 2: my mom. I had to google what it was. It's

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01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 2: a different culture. So that, yeah, Jalen was that nine

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01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: year old kid the double fingers. But Eli, we appreciate

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01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: you coming on the Roommate's podcast. Man, it was it

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01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:37,440
Speaker 2: was a blessing to have such an extravagant, an exceptional

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01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: guest is a good one, right, It was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: So we appreciate you, and for everyone else listening, make

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Speaker 2: sure you guys tune in for episode every Thursday.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate Eli, thank you, thank you fellows, appreciate it. Thanks

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Speaker 4: so much. That was fun.