WEBVTT - 2025-05-29- KSR PRE-SHOW 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:06.400 Welcome everybody. It is the KSR pre Show. It's Thursday, 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:07.680 May twenty ninth. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:08.720 That's right. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.520 The weekends almost so you gotta love these three day weekends. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:13.159 We could always go to a three day weekend and 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.080 do a lot today work week. That would be amazing. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:17.440 It is Shane Up, the Dude and Bill Rutletch. Give 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:19.200 us a call on the Clark's Puppet Shop phone line. 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:22.200 That's eight five nine two eight oh twenty two eighty seven, 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.160 your Whiskey Thief Call of the day. You can also 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.240 send us a text at five O two two six 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.240 five six six five six KSR pre Show being brought 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.440 to you by Italics Fine Italian Dining in Lexington. That 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:37.559 is where Billy is and that's where I will be 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.000 tomorrow for the KSR Golf Scramble. I hope the weather's 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.800 going to cooperate, Billy. I don't know if you've got 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:46.600 a weather update for us, but it looks like tomorrow 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:50.360 it's gonna be rainy, So bring your raincoat and a 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.839 good attitude because we're gonna try to have fun regardless that. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:54.760 The Lexington Golf Scramble tomorrow. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.720 Look, if you're a golfer you've played in the rain before. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.840 It's the lightning in the thunderstorms that you can't play in, 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.200 So bring a rain gear. Realize that there's gonna be 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.600 a little alcohol on maybe every single hole at the 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.199 KSR Golf Scrambler. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.600 So that's why most people signed up. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:12.400 You won't even notice the rain halfway through the rounds. 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.560 So I'm really looking forward to it. And maybe we'll 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:16.440 see Shannon the dude hit a golf shot tomorrow. Is 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:17.400 that any chance? 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.959 Probably not. You don't want me to hit a golf 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.399 shot for you? Like as bad as Ryan Ryan is 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.440 it putting. I'm just bad at golf. I was having 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:29.840 this conversation with Tom Leech just an hour ago talking 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.080 about the Golf Scramble, and I said, you know, I've 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:33.199 tried to play golf. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.520 It's just not my game. 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:35.319 You know. 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:39.040 I've spent a lot of weekends when I was younger 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.800 out on a golf course and I just get frustrated. 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.399 I end up throwing a club, I end up. 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.480 Cussing, and I'm like, why am I wasting my time 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.040 and money? You know, your your valuable time out on 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.440 a golf course doing something that just doesn't fun. So 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.400 I've still got some really out of date clubs in 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.000 the garage, Billy, which I'm to part with for a 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.520 very low price, just to get them out of my way. 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:05.400 I've sort of given up on the game of golf. 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.760 I don't think I was ever really much of a 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.760 golfer to begin with, and it's frustrating. You know, it's 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.840 like that balls right there. Why is that so hard 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.360 to hit straight? It always hooks. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.119 It's a lifetime pursuit. So do not feel bad if 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.399 you can't play the game very well if you've tried 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.359 to pick it up on a whim. You know, I've 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.920 been told Matt Jones is gonna face off with me 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.560 at some point this summer on camera playing a little golf. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.520 So Shannon, I'm taking it really seriously right now. So 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.200 my game has got to be in top shape if 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.680 we're gonna get Mario out there with the camera. So 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.359 maybe we'll talk about that a little bit more tomorrow, 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.480 but I'm excited for it, there's no doubt. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:46.600 Now. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.560 We got big news about Otega away. We'll get to 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.680 that in just a minute. But first before, right before 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.640 we went on the air, I told Billy, hey, I 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:59.840 have the opportunity to possibly interview Ace Freely, and you said, 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.040 who is that? Who's as free And I don't know 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.920 if I've ever been more disappointed in you ever in 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:06.080 this show's history. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:07.840 You don't know who Ace Freely is. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.920 More of a you know, a visual learner, Shannon. So 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.360 maybe if I see a face, I'll know who this 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:13.840 person is. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:15.400 But what if I just said, have you ever heard 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.480 of a little band called Kiss? 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:24.000 Yeah? Okay was one of the original members of Kiss. 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.840 Now he hasn't been in the band Kiss in years, 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.600 all right, So you know, some people may think that 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.280 it's not that big of a deal, but I think 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.080 it is because he's the original guy with Kiss, with 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.680 Geene Simmons and Paul Stanley, and he's going to be 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.400 going out and doing a solo tour as he's been 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.480 doing for years now, and he's coming into Louisville And 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.120 they said, do you want to interview Ace Freely? 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:46.280 And I said, yeah. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:47.960 The only thing is though, when you interview some of 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.520 these guys and they, you know, don't want to talk. 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.600 About their old bands. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:52.400 Yeah. 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.160 Look, I don't really care about Ace Freely's solo band. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.640 I know he wants me to, so he has a 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.920 solo career, right, a solo career, sure, But I'm everybody 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.960 wants to hear about Kiss if you're doing an interview, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.800 and some of these, you know, guys that are members 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.680 of former bands will go, Okay, I'll do the interview, 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.800 but no questions about Kiss. And I've got it into 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:12.880 my mind that if he says no questions about Kiss, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:13.920 I'll just hang up on them. 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.760 So I'm trying to put myself in an Ace's shoes. 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.080 I thought of Ace Ventura when you said, that's how 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:23.719 far off Jim Carrey, But like he probably gets asked 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.239 that every single interview, right, every DJ across the country. 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.000 That's his legacy. Though. That's how people know, you know. 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.200 It's another thing, and bands will get really big off 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.520 of one song, but they won't play the song live. 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.480 Like nobody would know who you were if you wouldn't 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.800 if you didn't have the song, and now you hate it. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.640 You know, nobody would know who Ace Freely is if 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.400 you weren't in Kiss to begin with. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.240 So why would you not tell people tune in to 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.279 hear about stories about Kiss? 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:51.560 Right? 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:53.520 I Mean, it's it's kind of like the old adage 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.320 and radio you need to be talking about the big 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.760 story of the day, because when somebody tunes in and 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.919 you're not talking about that story, I mean they're just 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:01.560 gonna say, I mean, what are you doing? This is? 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.159 This is what I want to hear about. So, you know, 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.120 I I completely understand both sides. So what are you 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:07.880 gonna do? Shannon? 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:08.000 You? 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:10.320 I mean you got to ask questions about Kiss right, And. 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.039 Oh yeah, I got to pretend to be interested in 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.720 a solo career and promote his show Coming to a Louisill, 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:15.520 which is the whole. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.400 Point of the game. Yeah, you know how to play 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:17.640 the game. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.599 Then you pepper in the Kiss questions, Like Gene Simmons 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.160 really a big jerk, like he seems. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:23.359 That he is. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.920 I know, Gene, hed I've definitely know that name. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.520 There's there's one great interview you can find on YouTube, 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.159 and it's when Ace was still in the band, and 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.320 he is like the one guy that's you know, they're 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.560 in like full gear, wig makeup and everything, and the 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.640 band's always you know, trying to look tough and try 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.760 to be all serious. Meanwhile, Aace Freeley is just I 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.120 don't know if he was drunk or what, but he 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.000 was just like making a mockery of the entire interview 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.280 and laughing because you know, Gene Simmons like, yeah, man, 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.320 kids come out and they see us and they start crying, 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.600 and he says, like, yeah, crying because. 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.320 I spent all my money to see this band. They 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:01.200 lost all their money. 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.400 Well, he sounds funny though. It'd be a good interview 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.360 for sure. You know, early on in the pre show 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:11.360 history we talked about Kisses air guitar strings and how 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.360 they actually sold that to people. So maybe he was 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.480 the mastermind behind that. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.880 That screams Gene Simmons. You talk about a guy that 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:19.800 would sell anything. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:20.760 They Billy. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.560 They literally sell Kiss coffins, Like, if you want to 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.279 be buried six feet hundred and a Kiss coffin, you 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.400 can buy one with the band's logo on it. They 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.680 are the most like no band in the history of 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:34.760 rock and roll or music in general has been better 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:36.919 at marketing than the band Kiss. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.440 They'll put their logo on anything. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.120 Well, I love that to a degree. I got to 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.120 think there's also some people in Big Blue Nation that 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.240 probably have a Kentucky casket, don't you think. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:47.880 Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure they do. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.560 Yeah, and let's just talk about the big Kentucky topic 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:52.080 of the day. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:52.880 I didn't think. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.719 I wasn't expecting to lead off talking about Ace Freely 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.160 until you said who. Then I was like, I can't 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.560 let you go. I can't let you off the hook 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:02.800 not knowing who as Freely is. 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:03.679 Yeah, I understand. 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:08.320 So yeah, the big news otaga Oway back not a surprise, Billy. 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.960 I don't think anybody on KSR was too worried about it. Matt, 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.040 maybe a little bit yesterday if you listened to the show. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.280 But let's be real, let's talk about otakea away and 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.160 what it means for this Kentucky team. Now you have 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.840 a complete roster. He was their most consistent player last year. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.680 He scored at least ten points and what would you say, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.400 ninety eight percent of their games. He was the guy 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.080 who I think, Yeah, he was the guy that when 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.520 the team was dealing with injuries, he carried Kentucky throughout 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.880 the season. And he was just the most solid player 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.560 that they've had in quite some time. Now that they've 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.320 got the roster lockdown, I think this is a team, Billy, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.200 that has all the pieces to make a national championship run. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.360 I mean they have experience through the transfer portal editions. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.600 They have more athleticism than they did from last season's team. 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.000 They have depth, which hurt them last year a little bit. 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:03.000 But you know, you can go thirteen deep on a 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.440 roster and still find a guy that's a top thirty player. 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.480 That's a team that's I think shaped up for a 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.440 deep run in March next year. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.040 The final piece of the puzzle falling into play, Shannon, 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:16.640 I could not be happier to hear that otega Oway 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.560 is back, and look, it's hard not to have that 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:22.640 level of optimism thinking about a national championship or a 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.960 Final four. When you see the depth and the talent 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.960 on this year's roster and all the deficiencies that we 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.000 saw in Mark Pope's roster in year one, you know 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.280 he went out and filled those needs. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:33.480 Right. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.320 Maybe you have a little less shooting, you don't have 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:40.200 the Kobe Brea, but you got better athletes. You know, 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:43.920 you got better defensively, You've got even more experience. So 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.160 it's there's a lot to be happy about. But I 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:50.679 think overall, when I hear Mark Pope talk about how 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.160 important it is to be a second year player in 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.959 his system, right, the read based offense and being able 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:02.720 to not just to be able to react Shannon, you know, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.600 you know the offense by now already being in the 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.360 system for a year, so maybe that can lead to 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.080 a second year jump. I'm really excited for guys like 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.400 Colin Chandler and Brandon Garrison and now otuga Oway, who 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.720 was such a surprise last year, wasn't he. I mean, 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:18.840 who thought he was going to be leading the team 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.520 with sixteen points a game and two game winners and 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.959 being really the heart and soul. And now he can 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.040 be that leader once again and goes to show you 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:29.480 that Kentucky's in a good place when it comes to nil. 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:30.040 Right. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:33.199 I mean, you've got Aberdeen leaving Florida after winning a 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.920 national championship, after expecting to be a starter. Otega Oway 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.440 it was either the NBA or Kentucky didn't even think 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:43.800 about another school. So a lot of positive takeaways from this, 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.720 but I'm just excited to see otaga Away play another 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:49.480 year in Kentucky Blue. Right. I mean, that's just there 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.880 is I mean, I think he's connected to the fan 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.679 base in a lot of ways and is just a 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.920 veteran piece that makes this roster from a top ten, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:01.440 top fifteen preseason team to maybe even top five. 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.000 And I think he's going to be the best player 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.680 next year too. You know, last year, going into Mark 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.480 Pope's first year, we had no idea really what to expect. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.600 And I bring this up all the time because of 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.480 just it was. It was a big breakout year for Oway. 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:17.400 Nobody was talking about him this time last year when 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.480 we were talking about the roster. Who's going to be 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:20.800 the guy that you know is going to be the 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.040 best player. No, I don't think anybody really mentioned Oway, 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.920 and turns out he was the guy that had his 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.920 surprise breakout season. I think that this year there's not 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:30.760 going to be no surprise. I think that Oway is 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.880 going to be the best player again. And you know, 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.520 you look at what they've put together, what Mark Pope 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.280 has been able to assemble with this roster. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:45.520 It's it's it's great. ESPN gave Pope. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.080 In his first year, his first off season or his 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.040 first regular season. I should say, and A let me 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.960 ask you, how would you grade Pope for this offseason recruiting? 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.240 Would you give it the off season? 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:55.560 Yeah? 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:58.880 For recruiting? Can you give him an A? I mean, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.319 I don't think there's are much argument. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:01.520 For a bee. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.160 Well, look like you can. It's funny because this has 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.920 been such an up and down process. You remember the 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:10.760 first couple of weeks, the Mark Pope whiffs, the Yaxle 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.960 guy that ended up going to Michigan. I think it 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.440 was from UAB. There was a few that it was 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:17.520 like you were beating your head up against the wall, right, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.680 Why is Mark Pope not going out there and getting 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.160 some of these guys? But I think you can only 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.720 give the grade by looking at the final roster. And 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:30.080 I look at this fourteen deep team and can't help 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.880 but be super optimistic. Like we've said about a top 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.280 five roster and yeah, I mean, how do I give 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:37.720 it an A minor shein? And I think I give 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:40.880 it an A Yeah, I mean to retain otega Oway, 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.040 to even bring back a guy like Brandon Garrison. You 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.800 know you're not seeing guys enter the portal. I mean 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.280 you see them possibly go to the NBA or graduate, 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.480 but they don't look at the situation besides Travis Perry 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.800 and say I can't make this work here. So I look, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.600 we sound like a broken record and we're not Sunshine pumpers, 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.760 But I'm going a Shannon and for Otega. Man, this 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.520 is great because if you're a late second round projected 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.960 pick and you're getting a lot of positive feedback, then 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.120 then you're on the fast track of being a first 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.600 round pick, right. I mean, there is every opportunity for 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.200 you to come back, have a great year and get 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.240 that life changing contract in money. But is it really 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.240 that life changing when you can make millions of dollars 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:21.080 at the college level? 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.720 And that's the thing, man, You know, you hear people 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.320 complain all the time about NIL. Nil is bad for 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.880 the game. In this situation, I think it's good for 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.920 the game. This is probably a player that if NIL 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.640 didn't exist, I think there's a good chance that he 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.640 just goes off and becomes a second round pick, goes 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.439 to the G League and tries to work his way 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.680 up into the NBA. Right now, the NIL is in place, 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.760 and as you just said, you can make more money 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.240 at Kentucky than you could probably in a G league 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:51.560 traveling or traveling around in a bus to random Midwestern towns. 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:53.960 Why would you not come back? So you know, play 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.320 for fans that were tired of the one and done system. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.240 If tired of these guys coming in one year going 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.640 to the NBA. Wearely even get to know him. Nil 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.959 is kind of bringing back college basketball to the way 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:06.559 it was when you had guys that would come back 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:11.200 for a second, third, fourth, some guys in the football 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.199 side of things the seventh year. If you're Zach Calzada, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.800 so you know in that regard, I think NIL is 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.080 good for the sport because it's bringing back guys that 0:13:20.160 --> 0:13:22.400 otherwise I think would probably go pro. And I will 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.280 say this, we talk about players that get bad advice, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.920 I think O take it away, got some really good advice. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.720 Go ahead, work out for every team that will have you, 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.520 because you never know next year when you are ready 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.640 for the NBA, that team that you worked out for 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.400 yesterday being the Brooklyn Nets, could be the team that 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:40.360 ends up drafting you. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.880 No, that's that's correct. You'd be foolish not to do it. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.720 But while we're talking about NIL and evaluating Mark Pope's offseason, 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.960 I can't help but think about the time where he said, 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.640 you know, this is Kentucky. We want to be the 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.199 best at everything, whether it be NIL or the transfer portal, 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.160 everything that we do, we want to be the best 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.440 at and that's the that's the mindset that you want 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.840 the coach to have. And certainly when there were so 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.240 much I guess caution when the nil era started here 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.640 at Kentucky, right Mitch Barnhardt hesitant to embrace it, Stoops 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.320 and Colu. Now I feel like we've really turned the 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.880 full leaf into Hey, we've got the money and we're 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.720 going to keep the guys that we want. I also 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.440 want to wish the best of luck to Addo Theorro, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.040 who also decided to remain in the NBA draft not 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.120 taken a third year with John Caliperry so always loved 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.480 that guy and excited to see him excel at the 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:32.000 next level. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.640 That always back, We want to hear from you. How 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.040 are excited are you? That always back in? How are excited? 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.760 How excited are you for this upcoming basketball season? Eight five, nine, two, 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.640 eight oh twenty two eighty seven. We're going to take 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.280 a break, come right back and take your phone calls. 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.720 It is the ksrpre Show. Welcome back, It is the 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.000 KSR Pre Show. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.080 You know this song, Billy, of course, there you go. 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:55.520 I saw a kiss a couple of years ago, but 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.680 you know again, it's not the original members. I guess 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:00.440 they think you can just throw some face, painting a 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.680 wig on a guy and nobody will. You don't care. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.200 But if you, if you're a hardcore fan, though, you 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.200 care that it's not the original members. But was it 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.040 always make up like or did that like? Well, there 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.040 was a there was a period where they didn't do makeup. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.800 I think they did an album where they didn't, Like, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.560 they played shows without any makeup on it. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:19.560 People are like, who are these guys? 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:20.440 They sucked? 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:20.680 Yeah? 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.200 Yeah, I mean you know, Kiss is a gimmick band 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.680 to begin with. You got to have the makeup, you 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.480 got to have the big hair, you gotta have the pyro. 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.960 You take all that away, it's just some guys up 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.240 there playing songs that nobody really cares about. It's it's 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.720 more about the spectacle of going to a Kiss concert, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.760 I think than it is a lot of times about 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:39.560 the music itself. 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.520 You know, we're talking about Ace Freely, and one person 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.240 on the text line, which is five O two two 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.760 six five six six five six, says Billy, does STD 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.200 know that Ace Freely is a genius with a very 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.320 high IQ. I bet he doesn't go one. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.040 Up m Well, I mean if I just hang up 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.520 on him, I feel like he's not there's no coming 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:56.080 back from that. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:58.880 You are in control of the interview. Yeah, I mean, 0:15:59.240 --> 0:15:59.840 I mean I'm. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.080 Doing I'm doing him a favor. I'm promoting his show. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:03.960 What does that mean? He as a high IQ? Is 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.560 he a super genius? Has he taking a test ineligence? 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.000 How does this guy know that that he's a genius? 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:11.160 Did he say he just. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.440 Listens to his interviews and name he's a well spoken guy. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.080 Maybe so south Side Chuck says, you said it. I've 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.840 seen Counting Crows numerous times live and they refuse to 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.120 play mister Jones live, the song that made them. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:25.920 Yeah, come on, man, like with that? 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.840 Is it? Is it Weezer who refuses to play one 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:30.360 of the songs? 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.280 No, it's you're talking about Radiohead that won't play Creep. 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.880 That's what it is. Yeah, So I'm with you. You 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.640 go there to see them play their hits and you 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:41.160 can't get tired of your own song. 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.720 Wow, Whether you get tired of it or not, it's 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.160 not for you. It's for the fans, right. 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.640 I mean, if Alice Blue Gown stops playing wagon Wheel 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:50.000 like I am gonna love it, like. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:52.840 Well, we only play that for Ryan to be honest. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.840 Speaking of Alice Blue Gown. Tomorrow, our second single will 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:00.600 be released. Yeah, the song that you actually like. I 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:02.440 remember when we opened up for third op Line, you 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.320 said that one song Bent, I really like that song, 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:09.080 and we were going to release a second another song, 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:10.280 and I was like, you know what, We played that 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.680 third Oplde song Like. One of the biggest reactions we 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.120 got was for this song called Bent, So we recorded 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.879 it when we recorded Helios. We've been sitting on this 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.240