1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. The Worlds 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: of veget podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. An exciting time 4 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: to be here at Jillette Stadium from four thirteen to 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: thirteen or four? Are we interrupting your screen time? 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Pall? 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: I was. 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: I was just looking to see if Stefan Diggs was 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: a screen or slant. I mean I didn't. 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 4: Okay, the difference and energy do. 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: They wouldn't have forty six touchdowns or whatever he threw? 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they would. 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 5: Be maybe fourteen and three for selfred. Okay, we had 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 5: the most twenty plus yard touchdown pass. They were tied 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 5: in Stafford twenty plus air yards air yards. 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: I know I have to nerd it up hair yards. 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: My little fun research took me yesterday. 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 6: I just started watching third and medium, like third and 19 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 6: three to six? 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: What did you do to him? Though? Okay, what do 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: we got many? Jerry? We have a show to do. 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: You're we need our guest at him? Which Stafford have 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: won as many games for the team as made it? 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: I think you would have, yes, because he's an mvpain. 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 6: This is Patriot's Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website for 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 6: deals by a Toyota dot Com. 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: All right, here we are Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium. It's Evan, Paul Duce, myself, Alex and 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: the booth getting ready for the La Chargers. Right off 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: the bat, I want to turn people to have you 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: posted your your game? 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: No, that would be tomorrow morning. 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: Oh tomorrow morning. Oh see yeah, when you post that, 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: I would recommend people reading that and figuring out how 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to beat the Chargers. So show's over. 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: We don't have nothing. I'm only kidding. 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: I spent this one was a it was a playoff game, 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 4: right like, so we went all out. We went all out. 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, how many? 40 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: There's like four thousand words, there's ten clips going in there. 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: This is come on, it was it was my first 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: time off writing it for the playoffs, so it had 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: to be big talk the playoffs. 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: All right, So we're gonna be talking about the Chargers 45 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: in this game coming up, uh, Sunday night, Sunday night game. 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: And Paul, I heard that your schooled the morning show 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: on your station. 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: I did not school anybody, just to let them know 49 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 3: that trying to give them a little of the insight 50 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: that we read about yesterday. We talked a little bit 51 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: about it on our show yesterday and they. 52 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Were saying that, you know, the Sunday night game is 53 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: the premier show game and the Patriots are in it, 54 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: and Paul had to tell them, no, it's not the. 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: Marquee matchup, you know. And this was kind of news 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: to me too. I always felt the same way that 57 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: they were talking about it in the morning show with 58 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: Fred and and Hardy on the Sports Hub. But I 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: guess there was a Chicago Sun Times column that sort 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: of detailed a lot of the league's thought process and 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: the number one matchup they deem is the four to 62 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: twenty five Sunday afternoon That is the most watched game 63 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: of the weekend in the NFL's eyes, and they wanted 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 3: their best matchup to be in that slot, which was 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: San fran And at Philly. They felt the Packers Bears 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: was their second best matchup. Normally they would put that 67 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: on the Sunday night. They decided to put it in 68 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: Saturday night because they're trying to boost the popularity of 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: the Amazon game, which is the streamed game Saturday night, 70 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: eight o'clock, looking maybe for a younger audience, you know, 71 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: get the streaming involved, get the streaming numbers that you gotta. 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: Plus it up. 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, plus it up. So that's what the reasoning was 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: for putting that game. They feel like if they had 75 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: put like say, Jaguars Bills in that slot, maybe some 76 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: people would have said I don't have to see that one. 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: But people feel like there's enough of a draw with 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: Green Bay Chicago that people will. So I'll be like 79 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: me and say it's streaming, that's not for me. I'll 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: do something else Saturday night. 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: Sorry, I mean to interrupt you. I had heard that 82 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: the networks were all fighting over Bear's Packers and the 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 4: fact that they gave it to Amazon. There was a 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: little bit of tension among the suits. 85 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 3: I got that impression from reading the story that I 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: read today. 87 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: That they gave Amazon a cookie and said here's Bear's 88 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: Packers instead of like, you know, Panthers Rams or like 89 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: some crappy game. Relatively speaking, of course. 90 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought the Patriots would be in that 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: four twenty five Sunday slot. Obviously they just flip flopped 92 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: it and you get a marquee spot. And Matt Smith 93 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 3: No Socks, the famous No Socks opined that because the 94 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: Super Bowl is on NBC this year, maybe this is 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: an effort to throw some crumbs to some of the 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: other networks, knowing that the you know, the NBC is 97 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: going to have, you know, the marquee of all matchups 98 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, regardless of who that is. So 99 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: maybe this is an effort to please all of the partners. 100 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: So there's that. The other thing I want to bring 101 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: up is, uh, you know this talk and it's more 102 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: than just a few people, how are you going to 103 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: feel if the Patriots lose? And you know, is it 104 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: a disappointment, is it a success? Is it a failure? 105 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. It's like, why what is this obsession 106 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: of preparing us and figuring out how we're going to 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: feel if they lose? Yeah, Like, I. 108 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 4: Don't's what you do? You set yourself up for failure? 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Right, It's like, let's worry about that. Then the other 110 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: thing I and we were just talking No Socks Paul 111 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: myself before the AFC is wide open. We all agree 112 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: that with that, except for maybe Pittsburgh. It's a pretty 113 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: evil and field. There's going to be a loser in 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: every one of these games, you know, and it's going 115 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: to come down to you know, bad call or turnover, jeez, 116 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: or whatever's going to come down. I you know, most 117 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: of these games are probably going to be not be closed. 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: I think I think they're all yeah, are pretty squad. 119 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: They all have their strengths, they all have their weaknesses. 120 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: One team is going to lose every one of these games. 121 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: So should that fan base all be you know, up 122 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: in arms like they think the Patriots fan base should 123 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: be because they missed this opportunity. It's an opportunity for 124 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: every one of these teams in the playoffs. I just 125 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: let's not folks, Let's not worry about that. Let's be 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: overjoyed with the fact that we're fourteen and three, We're 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. We're ahead of schedule. I don't care 128 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,559 Speaker 1: what anyone says. We're a head of schedule. And let's 129 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: let's take every game one game at a time and 130 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: not worry about Monday. Let's worry about Sunday night, and 131 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: if God forbid we lose, let's get ready for twenty 132 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: twenty six, you know, like, oh God, I am. 133 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: One hundred percent in the school of I hate losing 134 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: more than I like winning, everybody, and so I just 135 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 4: absolutely dread losing, like I dread everything about it. Like 136 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 4: I think that that is that just stinks all around. 137 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: It does so terrible. 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: So, like, I just think that for most of us, 139 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 4: you just live in a fear of what if they lose? Right, 140 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: And like you just you just prepare yourself for that outcome, 141 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 4: because that's the worst possible feeling. 142 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Follow If you were a service for a soldier and 143 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: you're going into battle, or if we are, you know, 144 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: the person leading those men and women into battle, would 145 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: you go in with the mentality what if we lose? 146 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: I mean no, no, you go in like we're gonna 147 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: take the. 148 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 6: I don't think Vrabel's doing that, you know. But what 149 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: does it look like though? 150 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 7: You know? 151 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 6: That's like you know, I mean, yeah, I think I 152 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 6: hammered and like fifty six to nothing, Yeah, that would 153 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 6: you know? 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: But what if they go back and forth. 155 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 6: With his team and it's a last possession and the 156 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 6: other team just makes an outstanding play, you know. So 157 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 6: I'm not going to get too worked up about the scenario. 158 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 6: The fact is they're here. This is a playoff week here. 159 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 6: The energy is awesome and it's just exciting to see 160 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 6: them take a next step and win or lose. You're 161 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: gonna stick with this team, and you want to see 162 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 6: Drake may get some playoff experience, so you know whether 163 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 6: or not he comes up a little short or not 164 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 6: this weekend, like there's going to be positives. 165 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 8: Now. 166 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm with Mike. 167 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: I think that that's a big part of it. I 168 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: can't really envision this scenario where I'm like not going 169 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 3: to be disappointed if they lose. But that doesn't mean that, 170 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: you know, just ignore the fact that they're way ahead 171 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: of schedule and the future is bright and all that stuff. 172 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: I mean that that's what I think this this comes 173 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: down to. Like for specifically, for like Evan and I, 174 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: there's such a gap in our ages and Fred. You 175 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: know that I spent a lot of my time not 176 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 3: only rooting for the Boston teams, but rooting for Northeastern, 177 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: which means I have a lot of losing and a 178 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: lot of callous you know, you know, day after games. 179 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: You know, mentality point, I don't necessarily dread losing more 180 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: than I enjoy winning. I think they're kind of the opposite. 181 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: This is all the results. 182 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: But I don't ever go into a game and say, 183 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: oh my god, what if they lose. I never do that. 184 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: But this is all the results of the dynasty. 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why, because you've done nothing but win. 186 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, Paul, tell me if I'm right or wrong. 187 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: Here one in ninety six, when the Patriots went on 188 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: their run and got to the Super Bowl, I don't 189 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: remember the same dread of losing because we had never 190 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: won before. We had never won it all. 191 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: That's my point. It's just the difference. Like I you know, 192 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: Evan just said, I do that all the time. I 193 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: go because you've done nothing but win, I think, And 194 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 3: it's not as situations younger and he's grown up with 195 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: six titles. 196 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: But would you agree with me? 197 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 3: Oh, I would agree with this. I would agree one 198 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: thousand percent with you. I was as distant titles, I 199 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: think in ninety six. I was as disappointed, of course, 200 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: coming home from that game and we got stuck having. 201 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: To shade you're winning at halftime. 202 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, well they weren't winning at half time. I was 203 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: fourteen ten after the first quarter. Oh, I went downhill 204 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: after that. 205 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: Okay, why did they kick the ball to Desmond Howard? 206 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 207 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: All right. 208 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: You know, I asked. 209 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: Belichick, ya, when when they do when I was driving 210 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: home ninety six. Yeah, they kicked it to Desmond Howard. 211 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 3: He's right, heavans right. 212 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: No, No, no, weren't they ahead at halftime in ninety six, No, 213 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: they weren't. 214 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: The first quarter was fourteen ten. They were down twenty 215 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: seven and fourteen at the end of the half. Then 216 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: it was twenty seven to twenty one with about a 217 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: minute left in the third quarter, and. 218 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: They kicked the Demond They kicked it. 219 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: Time keep going. I'm sorry. 220 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: Anything else you want to know. 221 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: About that game? Yeah, no, I lift it anyway. 222 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: I did so really, I was really disappointed coming home, 223 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 3: you know, just bummed out that they lost. 224 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: But I didn't. 225 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: It didn't like send me into like this deep dark depression. 226 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: I've never really been that kind of a sports fan, 227 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: Like I'm pretty imbalanced, you know, I have my arguments 228 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 3: and my quirks, but I don't think I'm that kind 229 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: of sports fan that it's like really like just ruins 230 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: my life that my team that I root for lost 231 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: and I'm going to sink into a deep depression for 232 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: a month. 233 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 6: I was going to say, oh seven, I had a 234 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 6: party and final whistle. I just took the balloon, I 235 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 6: popped it and I went to my room. 236 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: The party the time hung was like a death. It's 237 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: just a loss as you can ever have. 238 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: And again, I'm not going to tell you how I'm above. 239 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: Like in ninety six, go back to that season. 240 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: You know. 241 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 3: There was a game that they lost the Shannon Sharp 242 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: called the National Guard we kill in the Patriots game. 243 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I remember that. 244 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was supposed to go out that night, and 245 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: I was so bummed out that I was like an 246 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: hour late meeting everybody. Like I was just so like 247 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: just distraught with how badly they played. 248 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: But like I went out. 249 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: I did what I was you know, I just was 250 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: not really in a good mood when I went out. 251 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 3: But that was like the day of the game. Like 252 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: two days later. It's like, who even remembers You're onto 253 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: the next game. Yeah, these some people, it just it 254 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 3: ruins their whole life. 255 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: I just think this is a different situation, like the 256 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: context different than what I just I don't. I guess 257 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 4: it just is more like I think it needs like 258 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 4: added context, Like I think the reason why a lot 259 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: of people are dreading losing this game is because they've 260 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: heard all year long that this team is fraudulent because 261 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 4: of the schedule that they played. So what so so 262 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 4: if they lose this game, it proves the point that 263 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: they were fraudulent, Like. 264 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: But you know that they're not. It doesn't prove anything. 265 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: I agree. 266 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: I just got through. 267 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,359 Speaker 1: I just got through telling you all these teams are even. 268 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: Okay, you're making sense, Like if you if they lose 269 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: on Sunday to the Chargers, then everybody that has been 270 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: chirping the Patriots all year about their soft schedule is 271 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: going to be even louder. And I don't think that. 272 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: I think it's listen to it. 273 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 4: Okay, No, that's not the world. 274 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: Eventually, Patriots fans are saying that Denver is a fraud. 275 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: Right if we beat Denver, does that prove that they 276 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: were a fraud? Yes, no, it doesn't do Is it 277 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: not a fraud? 278 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 4: It doesn't prove that they're a fraud. But you best 279 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: believe we're going to be victory. 280 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: Of course we are. So you're a fan, you shouldn't 281 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: think that your team was a fraud. 282 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 4: But also, if we played Denver, it's gonna be in 283 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 4: the AFC Championship game. Like being one and done is different. 284 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: I blame this, Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. 285 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: Maybe it maybe. 286 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: To make it an age thing. It's a it's a 287 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: social media world things, and you know, I I That's 288 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 4: what I think it is, like in a vacuum about 289 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: this season, is that all year long, I know what 290 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 4: you saw, schedules have been thrown in our faces. That 291 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: this team has played the easiest schedule of all time 292 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 4: and the easiest schedule in the league. And you know, 293 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 4: if they go one and done and they lose to 294 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 4: a Chargers team, which on paper they should probably be, 295 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: then all those people are going to have credence that 296 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 4: they were right the whole time. 297 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Do you want me to tell you? 298 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: Do you want me to tell you what those haters 299 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 3: are going to do? 300 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: If the Patriots win the Super Bowl? 301 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: That's what happens. 302 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: Do you want me to tell you what I'm going 303 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 3: to I'll tell you right because I I this like 304 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: kind of like the antagonistic, the troll mentalities. If they 305 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl, you know what they're going to do. 306 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: They're going to say you wouldn't even have made the playoffs. 307 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: If you had a real schedule. Yeah, you took advantage 308 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: of a week schedule and all the big I'm just 309 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: telling you what they're going to Okay, but if you 310 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 3: want to argue this crap, that's what they're going to 311 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: do because they never relent and say they were wrong. 312 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: No one ever does that. 313 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: People do that, like to me all the time about 314 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 4: the twenty four Celtics, I do not care. Champions, and 315 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: you can tell me that they had an easy path 316 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 4: and I do not care. So if the Patriots win 317 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl and people say, well it's because you 318 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 4: had an easy path, it's not going to bother me 319 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: when iota. But it will bother me if people say 320 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: they lose to the Charters on Sunday and they say, see, 321 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: we're frauds. 322 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Would if the Celtics hadn't gone all the way that year, yes, 323 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: it would have bothered you. Yeah that was But would 324 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: you have thought that they're right? It doesn't matter, No, no, 325 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Would you would you would believe that 326 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: those Celtics detractors were right. 327 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: It's different because the Celtics were so much further along. 328 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: But like, but you you wouldn't knowing in your brain, 329 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: not your heart, your brain that they're wrong. 330 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: It was just chirping, okay, but this is the this 331 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: is the world we live in. I don't know what 332 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: to tell you, Like whether it's his shows or whether 333 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 4: it's social media, like, it doesn't matter. 334 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: I understand these are the people that. 335 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: Are going to be making I'm not taking it that personally. 336 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: I'm just saying it's annoying, like and like that. That 337 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 4: that's it, like Monday. If they lose on Sunday, I 338 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 4: will not turn on his station for like a week. 339 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 3: Like this is where I agree with him. That's how 340 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: I would handle it. 341 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Oh, just don't listen. I just like I can. 342 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: Easily not read what's going on on Twitter, right, it 343 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: doesn't bother me. A lot of people Evan's age and 344 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: younger than Evan, they can't do that. They're just programs 345 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: that they have to figure out and they have to 346 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: fight with somebody and they have to defend the wall. 347 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: And I don't spend any of my time worrying. 348 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: About I'm going to be as disappointed as anyone, but 349 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: I will be too. But God forbid you lose. The 350 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: future is bright. I'm excited. We've got May. 351 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: We will get with that may just won't be Monday. So, Mike, 352 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 3: do you remember how I told you to the stages 353 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: of grief. Mike, you want to go over like what's 354 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: gonna happen? So let's say let's say like it just 355 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: it happens. No one wants to acknowledge it, but it happens. 356 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: They lose Sunday night on two on the postgame show, 357 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: there's going to be a lot of anger, right, We're 358 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: going to get anger by Tuesday. It's going to be 359 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: anger with with a sort of a sniff of. 360 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: Barkain. 361 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: Even know we're so far ahead of schedule by Thursday 362 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: because we won't do a Wednesday show if we lose, 363 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 3: it'll be Tuesday and Thursday. By Thursday, it'll be really 364 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: all about Man, look at this, We got this m 365 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 3: VP candidate. We're going to be here every year for 366 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: ten years, and maybe the second week it's going to be. 367 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: Mike, we got a great year behind us, and we're. 368 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how it will be hundred percent agree to 369 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: shut this crap off, and you can sort of a 370 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: hundred percent agree the bills are. 371 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: One and done. The Fred Kurshers of the world will 372 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: be calling up Buffalo over at see I told you 373 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: the windows closed, And if you do, you think you 374 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: think Buffalo fans should feel that way. 375 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: There's going to be one team that Josh Allen maid 376 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: be very worried if they lose on Sunday. 377 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: But if you're the mafia, well, if I were a 378 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: member of Bill's mafia, I would just always be very 379 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 3: worried because of the sure that. 380 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 4: The Bill's like not the cross sports again, but like 381 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 4: the Bills are in the position that twenty four Celtics 382 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: were in. They had their guy in the prime of 383 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: his career with an easy path. Like if they lose 384 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: on Sunday, and. 385 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: The difference is they they're not hosting everybody without all 386 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: the best players, Okay, but if there's a big difference there, 387 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: they're on the road. 388 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: And but if they're one and done, not an easy path, 389 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: this is their time to help Paul, Like this is I. 390 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: Understand, I understand what you're saying, Like Mahomes isn't there's 391 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 3: not there and Jackson's not there. 392 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: But they're not that good. They're lucky to be. 393 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 4: If they lose on Sunday to Jacksonville, then they're gonna 394 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: the coach is gonna get fired like the there's. 395 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: So the only way that coach gets fired is if 396 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 3: they hire John Hobball, which is in play. We haven't 397 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: talked about that yet either. 398 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: But he's not. 399 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: He's not the Bills mafia. 400 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want any part of listening to these national 401 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 3: shows say exactly what Evan just said, because Evan's right. 402 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott's job is going to be on the line 403 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: if they lose to Jacksonville. He's I think he's a 404 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: thousand percent right. That's all the national talk. The biggest 405 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 3: story coming out of this wildcard weekend in my view, 406 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: looking change, no, but looking ahead and coming out of 407 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: wild right now, it's it's the coaching change is absolutely 408 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: right coming out of the weekend. I like to predict 409 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: what the storylines will be if the Bills lose. That's 410 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: the biggest storyline that's going to come out of this weekend. 411 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: Evan's got it nailed. And it's because of They've been 412 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: knocking on the door, knocking on the door, knocking on 413 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 3: the door, and the only thing that's preventing them from 414 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: getting there generally has been Mahomes into a lesser extent 415 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: Burrow and neither of those two guys are around. 416 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: And Harbor was available and they still. 417 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: Can't get out of it. 418 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: And now Harbaugh is available. 419 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 3: That's going to be the big storyline. And by the way, 420 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: did you guys see Schefter's report today, So this is 421 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: currently seven job openings now with Baltimore making that announcement yesterday, 422 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 3: Schefter said that according to Harrorball's agent, which you know 423 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: it's coming from the agent. Take it for what you will, 424 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 3: he has already had it at least seven teams contact him. 425 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard, I did hear so, and some of 426 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: them are teams. 427 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: That's at least one who already has a coach, right, 428 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: it sounds like it's my It's probably more than one. Yeah, 429 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 3: I think Miami is a possibility, could be Buffalo. 430 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 4: I don't think it's Buffalo yet, but it sounds like 431 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: the Dolphins and their ownership has had an infatuation with 432 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: John Harbaugh. 433 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: So to your point, though, and if you were the pagulist, 434 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 3: would you call contact John Harbaugh and say, hey, listen, 435 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 3: just don't make a rash decision. You know, right, you're 436 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: gonna have You're gonna have the pick of the litter. 437 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: Obviously you're going to be in high demand. But wait, wait, 438 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: wait at least till Sunday. Yeah, you know, and you know, 439 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: and then you know, if the Bills win, you know, 440 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: maybe they call back and say, you know what, we're 441 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna stay the course. But I think Evan's right. 442 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: I think there's a chance that make Durmy gets fired. 443 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: I don't know how he doesn't like how many more 444 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: times are we going to do this? But you have 445 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: the best player in the league, and you can't win 446 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: playoff games like I. 447 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 3: Just seven and six. 448 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 6: I understand why harvaugh is out, but it's still just 449 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 6: it's the same thing as Rable to me of you 450 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 6: have a good coach that you know, maybe wins Coach 451 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 6: of the Year, and you get to a certain point 452 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 6: where you feel like you just can't move forward. 453 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: It's just run its course. But oh Al Davis used 454 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: to have the role ten years Yeah, after ten years long, 455 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: they lose their ability to get the message out they started. 456 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: There's also and I read some stuff from Jeff Zerbiek, 457 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: who is a longtime Ravens writer. I didn't read, you know, 458 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: just reading clips online that I saw. I didn't read 459 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: thoroughly the stories, but indicating that the real problem is 460 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: Lamar with Todd munkin the offensive coordinator in Harbaugh wasn't 461 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 3: going to get rid of them, so Baltimore decided, you know, 462 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: we're going to go in another direction. Now we've also 463 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: heard we heard, like what five or six weeks ago, 464 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: there was what Fred talking about the Al Davis thing 465 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 3: where they've really kind of tuned him out. 466 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: In the locker room was eighteen years. 467 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: It had run its course. I think John Harbaugh is 468 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 3: a really good coach. I don't think he's done a 469 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 3: really good job with some really good teams recently the 470 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: last couple of years. I think that they have underachieved. 471 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: This year they badly underachieved. Well, it might be time. 472 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: But Lamar got hurt, and I think that's it, and 473 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: it's totally for situation, but I kind of look at it, but. 474 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: I think there were one in four before he got hurt. Yeah, 475 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 3: something like that. 476 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 4: But you look at the situation too, like what happened 477 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: in Washington, Like they bought both their coordinators because Jen 478 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 4: Daniels got hurt. Like is Cliff Kingsbury out of a job? 479 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 3: If I wonder if Kingsbury is in play for Baltimore, I. 480 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 4: Would think that that's probably what's happening is Kingsbury probably 481 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: has another job that he thinks he's going to get. 482 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was thinking. 483 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: But like I think with the with the Ravens situation, 484 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 4: it just kind of seems to me like la Mar 485 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: might be the problem. 486 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: Right well, and that's that's my question. 487 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: Yes, say a lot of. 488 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, like like Greg Roman is not good enough 489 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 4: and then they and then they fired Greg Roman and 490 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: now Todd Monkin's not good enough, and so that he 491 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: wants Todd Monkin fired, and like it just seems to 492 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: me like it's been difficult to work with. 493 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a wild I don't remember so 494 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: many high profile coaches being available, you know, ex coaches 495 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: being available in any one cycle. Yeah. 496 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, if you're Baltimore, do you hit your 497 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 6: wagon to Lamar and you bring in a coach that's 498 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 6: gonna serve Lamar. I mean that's probably what Kingsbury would 499 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: be to some element. 500 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: Or a high profile coaches besides Harbor. 501 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy, Bill Belichick's not available, has been available for 502 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 4: three years, but he's available. 503 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: This is the third years ago, but he's available. 504 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: You just said, I can't remember these kinds of guys 505 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: being available. 506 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: I can't. 507 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: We was available last year, in the year before. 508 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: No, but you add in Harbaugh, you add in I 509 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: think it's really just Harbor and Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy. 510 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if listen, if it's really disrespectful, know what 511 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: I mean. 512 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: I think Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl and has 513 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 4: about the same win percentages. 514 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: I mean, you know that table. I don't know if dable, 515 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: but I don't think of him any We'll probably get 516 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: another opportunity some day. 517 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: I think he'll be a coordinator first. 518 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: But maybe. But but you know, he's out there, like 519 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. As Pete Carroll said, he's 520 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: actually retiring. 521 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: He should, he should, but again, he was available last 522 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 3: year and he got a job. 523 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 524 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I don't think this is a great 525 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: year for coaching availability. I don't think there's a lot 526 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: of Like I don't think there's a Ben Johnson available. 527 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 4: It was available, Yeah, yeah, I mean Stefanski he's another one. 528 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: Harbaugh another what he's like thirty games below five hundred. 529 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 4: Like I think that Tomlin is not tom right now, I'm. 530 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 3: With if Tomlin is available, then that I would change 531 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 3: my mind. 532 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: That's a high profile. 533 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 4: I'm with, coach is kind of low key staking. 534 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: There are a lot of mid coaches that are that 535 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: are out of a job. 536 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 6: And that's what's so funny to me, though, is we 537 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 6: spent the first five minutes talking about it might be 538 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 6: just at the Patriots was and now we're talking about 539 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 6: two other teams that if they lose, their coaches might 540 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 6: get fired. 541 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: Right, That's how stream it is. 542 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 3: Disappointed, But I think it's I think this is back 543 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 3: to Evans's point about like the twenty four Celtics, like 544 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: you're in a different spot, and so you know, when 545 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 3: you're there for nineteen years, in eighteen years in the 546 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 3: case of Tom Win in Harbar, respectively, you're not judged 547 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: in the same lens, and you shouldn't be. 548 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: It's also just different, Like I think that for especially 549 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: the current fan base. You know, obviously Drake may is 550 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: a much better player than Matt Jones. But we just 551 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: did this in twenty twenty one where they had a 552 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: good regular season. Now they had a better regular season 553 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: this year and the quarterback is better. But if they 554 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: go out on Sunday and they lay an egg against 555 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 4: the Chargers, like what, we're right back there, right or we're. 556 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: Not ready, So my not ready, my feeling will be different, 557 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: you know, vastly different. I was very consistent just because 558 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: I didn't think that they will go into the playoffs 559 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: in twenty two. I thought twenty one was a fluke. 560 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 3: I don't think this is a fluke. Now that's just 561 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 3: me mentally, doesn't mean I'm right. It might end up 562 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: being a fluke. 563 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: Who knows. 564 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: I don't think it's a fluke, but I think I 565 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 4: think that there's there's all those elements right of like 566 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 4: the proof of concept of winning a playoff game, of like, 567 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 4: you know, really accomplishing something this year of you know, 568 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 4: not just winning the division but also winning a playoff 569 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: game really puts your stamp on it. Like this is 570 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: it's not a no fluke. 571 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: It's not a fluke for Denver, it's not a fluke 572 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: for Jackson with the first year coach. 573 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: It's not fourteen wins might be none of these still 574 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 3: in a playoff team last year. 575 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: None of these teams are that in it with the 576 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: exception of Pittsburgh. Perhaps are here because of a fluke Carolina, 577 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: but no, I get your point. 578 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah literally had a field goal mess yeah FLI key, Yeah. 579 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 3: But I agree with Fred. I think the six teams 580 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: are pretty even, and I can make an argument it's 581 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see how it goes, you know, 582 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: when it goes forward, because I do think strongly that Baltimore, 583 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: Kansas City, maybe if they can figure out how to 584 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: handle one off season for a change, Cincinnati, these teams 585 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: are going to be heard from, and you know, I 586 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: think there are good teams that have I might even 587 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 3: slide Indianapolis into this. 588 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: Conversation absolutely if they get a quarterback. 589 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: There are some good teams that are in the playoffs 590 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 3: right now that. 591 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Might not be back. I mean Jason Ohio historically that's 592 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: the next year Jason for OHIOSA is Fred, why are 593 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: you trying to rationalize fandom, which is inherently irrational. Fans 594 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: think and do wild stuff for their teams. I agree, 595 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: but I would hope our fandom appreciates what we've got 596 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: and what the future could be. With what we've got. 597 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 4: We will get there, Yes, won't be Monday. 598 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: That's what I said, this isn't the end of the road. 599 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: It's like, if we don't win now, we never will, 600 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, Like. 601 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: No, I'm saying that, you know. 602 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's going to take a while. 603 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: But it's gonna take him in. 604 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 4: Like then we'll get to NFL Honors and hopefully Drake 605 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: may is the m v P. And then that make 606 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 4: you feel a little bit better, And. 607 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: That makes Mike upset, and I kind of agree with him. 608 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 3: Mike is dreading if the worst case scenario happens and 609 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: they lose this game. 610 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 6: Three weeks of MVY three weeks, so if Stafford lost 611 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 6: this weekend in the division round. 612 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: So you know, obviously I probably put straight back in 613 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: front of. 614 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 4: You like they started. They voted for MVP on Monday. 615 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: But we're gonna keep talking. 616 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: It's going to keep. 617 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: Getting calls by we made our beach. 618 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 4: It's over. Yeah, good job campaigning, everybody. It's done. I 619 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 4: know they can't vote anymore. 620 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 6: I know we've talked about this stuff in the past, 621 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 6: and I remember you talking about no one was throwing 622 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 6: in ninety six, the fact that Denver lost in the 623 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 6: face of people and even watching doing my eighty five 624 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 6: stuff of like the excitement of like they thought they 625 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 6: were going to beat the Bears, and. 626 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: You know, I just think it's it's two things. 627 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: To me. 628 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 6: It's the rise of social media now where you have 629 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 6: direct contact with another team's fans. 630 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: You didn't used to have that, Like, how would you 631 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: get into it? You didn't care. 632 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 6: The only thing that mattered was, you know, when the 633 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 6: Boston Globe, the Boston Harrold wrote a story and then 634 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 6: you know that might ruffle some feathers, right, but it's 635 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 6: that and then it's part of the interruption. 636 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: This is how sports are covered now. 637 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 6: Every angle, you know, win, lose, what's the good, what's 638 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 6: the bad? 639 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: Like that's really I'm not that as. 640 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: Positive like the ninety six one, and I might be 641 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: getting my years off by a year, I want to say. 642 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: You know, so you're right. I knew that Denver was 643 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 3: better than the Patriots in ninety six, but I was 644 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: just excited that they lost. And I was really I 645 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: remember strongly rooting for Jacksonville watching that game. It's like, 646 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: oh my god, they have a chance that one win 647 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: and they were really you know, so you got a 648 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: chance to play Jacksonville for the AFC Championship. Game ninety seven. 649 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: I think that they lost to Denver in Denver ninety 650 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: seven and ninety eight, and they were reasonably competitive games, 651 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: so you could kind of see they're not that far away. 652 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: But you looked at it and you're like, that really 653 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: was a great opportunity that they had in ninety six 654 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 3: to go to the Super Bowl, and fortunately for them, 655 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 3: they did. Now, I think green Bay was a little 656 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: better and they beat them, you know, but I that 657 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: was unlike the Chicago game. The green Bay game was winnable. 658 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: The Chicago game was not winnable. 659 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 6: One other funny thing that stood out to me is 660 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 6: I found some footage of Eddie Anelman down at the 661 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 6: at the Super Bowl JO and he was like doing 662 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 6: a little show and he was telling Patriot fans to 663 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 6: call in and give these Miami people crap, you know. 664 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 6: So he's like and I feel like now the dichotomy 665 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 6: has kind of changed because I feel like the biggest 666 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 6: rival of Paul shows are the Patriots super fans who 667 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 6: don't care, you know, they just were the best. 668 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: We're back. 669 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 6: Everyone hates us defend the way, you know, that's their nemesis. 670 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 6: But back then it was almost like we're trying to 671 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 6: harness that strength because we're gonna win. 672 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: The Super Bowl and everybody's on board, and so super 673 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: fans you're talking about if we lose, we're still bad, 674 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: We're still back. This wasn't a fluke. 675 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 6: It's just different and I and I honestly think that 676 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 6: it's better now. It's better because it's better because Evan. 677 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Can go back and forth with Bronco fans. It's you're 678 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: not in your own little bubble. You know me, but 679 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, oh, but would you rather have you work 680 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: for a team? And you can't get into it, but 681 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: you know if you didn't work for us, if you 682 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: were still with Clinics or whatever, you'd be right back 683 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: at put off the old thumbs last. 684 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: Weekend the media, I don't go out with the fans. 685 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 4: Me deciding that I am now going to tweet and 686 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: then push away from the phone is one of the 687 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: better decisions I've ever made for my health and well 688 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 4: being playing. 689 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't tweet a lot for that reason. 690 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 4: But like I do tweet a lot, but I don't 691 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: reply anymore. 692 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: My feeling is if you're not if you don't want 693 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: people to interact with you, don't tweet that like you're 694 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: just making proclamations, then you're not using it's not social media, 695 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: it is because so like, if you're not and listen, 696 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't blame you. If you don't want to get 697 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: into it, then stay off of it. Stay off of it. 698 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: I just it just doesn't mean no good to reply. 699 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: So I for multiple reasons, but I mean you should 700 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 4: read some of the replies to my tweets. Like during games, Oh, 701 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 4: I can only. 702 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Imagine I get criticized the game so lit things are bad. 703 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: You know, they're on me for being a homer. 704 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: Well, it's not even criticism towards me, it's it's more 705 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 4: criticism towards what's happening in the game. And it will 706 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 4: be like the first quarter and the defense gives up 707 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 4: a scoring drive and it's fraud. It's like, I can't 708 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: stop anybody. It just you can't reply. You can't. Once 709 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: you start replying, you're poking the hornet's nest, and it just. 710 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: All right off for this game, Yeah, let's get this game. 711 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 3: What are you most confident in? From the Patriots side, 712 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: I was sort of thinking about confidence and concerns. What 713 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: are you most confident in? I should have probably maybe 714 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 3: brought this up pre show maybe a little show. 715 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's a tough question, Paul. 716 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 6: That's why I'm taking a second to think about it, 717 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 6: because i'd love to say that I am one hundred 718 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 6: percent sure that the Patriots are going to move the ball, 719 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 6: but I think the Chargers be really challenging. 720 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be it's going to be 721 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: most confident if it's to remove the ball, I think. 722 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 6: I mean, but how and and does the run game 723 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 6: continue to carry over and produce? 724 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: Like they have the four guys that I'm most confident in, 725 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: it's Drake May, I agree with the two running backs, 726 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: and it's Digs. Those four guys, I'm pretty sure we're 727 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: going to produce. I'm pretty I'm pretty sure those four 728 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: people will produce. 729 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about the two running backs, but I 730 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: have a lot of faith in May in the passing game, 731 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 3: regardless of who he's throwing it too. He's done it 732 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 3: all year with different guys, so I don't know who 733 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: the guy is going to be. You know, maybe it's 734 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: Digs that's probably the most likely. But yeah, I have 735 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: I have faith in in May. 736 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: But if you have faith in May, he has to 737 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: throw it to somebody. So who do you have faith 738 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: in that's gonna be on the and the guy who 739 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: can go. 740 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: Like this Hunter Hunter Henry and Stefan Diggs. I have 741 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: a lot of faith in. 742 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 4: I think they're going to try to take those two 743 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: guys away. So so I think that that's going to 744 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 4: be the game within the game is going to be 745 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 4: just you know, Kai Shaan Boodie, Kyle Williams, you know, 746 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 4: the running backs in the passing game against some of 747 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: these secondary players for getting someone No, I'm not some 748 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 4: of the some of these Tomorrow Douglas, some of these 749 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 4: secondary players, uh for the Chargers, you know, Cam Hart, 750 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 4: Benjamin Saint ju just their safeties like are you know 751 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: those are It's not I don't know if if Jesse 752 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 4: Minter is gonna let Stefan Diggs beat him, so like 753 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 4: it's probably gonna have to be. They're gonna clamp down 754 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 4: on the middle of the field with Diggs and Henry 755 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: and the matchups that are going to decide the game 756 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: might be on the outside. 757 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 3: Now, forgive me, I didn't read the four thousand word 758 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 3: opus yet you can't. 759 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: Can't. 760 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 4: It'll be available to everybody. 761 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 3: Tomorrow what specifically with jesse Minter, he's good, good co 762 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 3: Do you think they're gonna be things that maybe catch 763 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels and Drake May off guard or do they 764 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: just do they do extremely well? 765 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 4: I think it's the second one. So they play a 766 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 4: lot of zone. They played like eighty one percent of 767 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 4: their snaps in zone. They play a lot of quarters specifically, 768 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 4: which we can get into. But I think the biggest 769 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 4: thing that I see with them this happened against Houston. 770 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 4: You know, first half against Houston, Stroud completes those two 771 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 4: bombs for touchdowns to the two Iowa State kids, and 772 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 4: then Mint just started blitzing the crap out of them 773 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 4: in the second half. And it seems like the curveball 774 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 4: or like the change up for jesse Minner is pressure. 775 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 4: Like if he starts to see that the quarterback is 776 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 4: just sitting back there and the you know, zones are 777 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 4: not holding up, then he's going to start bringing pressure. 778 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 4: So if I was the Patriots, that would be what 779 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 4: I would be working all week on. Like, I have 780 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 4: a lot of confidence in Drake May finding open receivers 781 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 4: against zone coverage. He's been doing it all year. As 782 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: Paul said, what happens when they start getting a little 783 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 4: bit crazy and they start dialing pressure up and they 784 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: have to figure out answers to zone pressures or cover 785 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 4: zero or whatever the case may be. You have those 786 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 4: types of things. So if I was Josh McDaniels, like 787 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 4: that would be what's keeping me up at night. Is 788 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 4: like what happens when the game sort of pivots right, 789 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 4: Like he's not gonna sit in quarters the entire game 790 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 4: because it's going to be too easy for McDaniels in may. 791 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 4: So at some point he's going to flip a switch 792 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 4: and say, we're going to start bringing the heat. And 793 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 4: at that point, do you have the answers to the 794 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 4: pressure that they bring? 795 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 3: Do you agree to That's like from when you when 796 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 3: you watch the third I. 797 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 6: Only watch the third mediums pot. I think, no, it 798 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 6: sounds I mean yeah, no, I mean obviously I trust 799 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 6: Evan's coverage, and yeah, I mean that. 800 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: The zone stuff. 801 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 6: I mean I just went through, you know, stacking up 802 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 6: all the different how they rank up, and I mean 803 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 6: everything he's saying stacks up with with what the next 804 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 6: gen stats, and yeah, I just it, Like I like 805 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 6: what Gary Blount said, Yes, Blunt what he said yesterday, 806 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 6: just whatever you're expecting it to be, it's going to 807 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 6: be something totally different. And I think that that could 808 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 6: be a case. And you know, to Evan's point, we've 809 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 6: seen times this year where Patriots offense looks one way 810 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, it looks another way 811 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 6: for a while. No, that happens a lot in the playoffs, 812 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 6: and it's does it stagnate it first and they figure 813 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 6: it out or do they come out guns blazing and 814 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 6: then the adjustment kind of gets them. Hopefully they can 815 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 6: stay ahead of that. And I just think the run game, 816 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 6: you know, like that's to me that if if they 817 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 6: can lean on that and they can be successful with that, 818 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 6: I think that'll. 819 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 1: Worry about that then too. Hither run game. 820 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 4: Worries me against this team, particularly because they got big 821 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 4: dudes up front, and Derwin James is a really good 822 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 4: run player as well, and he's been playing a lot 823 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 4: in the slot and in the box for them, kind 824 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 4: of like basically like a linebacker. So like, I don't 825 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,479 Speaker 4: know if you can run the ball against this front, Well, 826 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 4: it's a. 827 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: Bunch of big nights. I lean on the performance of 828 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 1: the last and in the last quarter of our run 829 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: game in giving that you know your your guy mintor 830 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: something to think about there, and okay, you know stack 831 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: the box all right. I think Josh McDaniel and May 832 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: will recognize that, and I think we have an answer 833 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 1: for that. We're balance enough to be able to answer 834 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: to that. And so that's why I have faith in 835 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: May and confidence in May in the offense in general 836 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: to be able to produce this game. I agree. 837 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 3: I think that's what yeah, most confident. 838 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: To me, that's the way you win this game, Like, 839 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 4: you got to get ahead, score score because they can't score. 840 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 4: So I would put points on the board as quickly 841 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 4: as you possibly can and make them play from behind 842 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 4: and make that offensive line pass protect forty forty five 843 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 4: times in Sunday's game, and I think you're going to 844 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 4: be in good shape. But you know, they they stop 845 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 4: to run really well. They've been a little bit leaky 846 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 4: on the big plays lately, but they're pretty good at 847 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: stopping big plays through the air. So it's just that's 848 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 4: the way that they kind of play. 849 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: What's the thing that wearries you the most, Herbert. 850 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say what worries me the most is 851 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 4: that the Patriots won't have enough pass rush to really 852 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: exploit their offense. 853 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 3: They don't get the lead, and the Chargers can throw 854 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 3: as they want to, and they have a diverse passing 855 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 3: game that I think will give the Patriots secondary and 856 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 3: then I can handle. 857 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: And then I worry that they'll get too aggressive on 858 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: defense and they'll get burned. 859 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 6: They'll have to start blitzing and trying to figure out 860 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 6: a way to produce some pressure. 861 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: You know, that would be my biggest concern is that 862 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,800 Speaker 3: Herbert gets hot. And they have we talked about yesterday, 863 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 3: three or four guys. They're more than comfortable. You know, 864 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: that guy can be the volume guy today. That guy 865 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 3: can be the big play guy today. 866 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: They have to. It's hard to stop those Christian Barmore 867 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 4: have to dominate. They have to wreck the game. 868 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: So is the thing that's held the Charges from being 869 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: an explosive offense. Back to the offensive line. 870 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 6: It's horrid, yeah, and I saw something today. It's like 871 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 6: historically horrid. 872 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 873 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 3: And it's it's not just like they have some of 874 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:46,760 Speaker 3: the guys. 875 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: Their lines worse than our schedule their line last year here. 876 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, my rankings, okay, so fifty to nothing and Herbert 877 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 3: was sacked fifty four times. You know, everybody is focused 878 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 3: on Alton Slater and those guys. I mean, first of all, 879 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 3: they are two really good tackles that they lost, which 880 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 3: obviously chips away at your depth. But they were missing 881 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 3: guards all year too, Like Mikai Beckton missed the chunk 882 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 3: of the season in the middle, hasn't been as good 883 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 3: when he was out there. The BC kid Zion Johnson 884 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 3: sort of been a little inconsistent. He They've been without 885 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 3: a lot of their personnel on the line for large 886 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 3: chunks of the year. I think that they've kind of 887 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 3: settled it a little bit, like the backups that are 888 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 3: settled into the tackle spots. I wish I had their 889 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 3: game the game, No, but I wish I had their 890 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: game to game. I feel like those guys is at 891 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: Sailure and Pimpkins. They've been in there, I think the 892 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 3: last few weeks, and it's kind of stabilized a little bit. 893 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 3: You know, it's not going to be guys, but it's 894 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 3: not going to be ideal for them no matter what. 895 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 3: But I think Herbert is sort of after being under 896 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 3: siege for you know, the middle of the season, I 897 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 3: think he sort of understands a little bit. Okay, this 898 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 3: is what it's going to be. I'm working around it. Yeah, 899 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 3: and maybe it'll be too much for him and he 900 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: won't be able to do it in the playoffs, and 901 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: then the Herbert haters will tell you he's not going 902 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: to win in the playoffs. 903 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 904 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 4: He hasn't been particularly good against pressure this year. 905 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just and the Patriots haven't been good at 906 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: getting pressure. 907 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 6: So that's the that's the labor of average I would say, 908 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 6: I mean, I would say their pass us is average pressure. Yeah, 909 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 6: pressure eight, but uh, you know backup having I mean 910 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 6: sixty seven point one QB rating under pressure one O 911 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 6: nine point eight with no pressure for yeah. 912 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they think they had leads a lot, 913 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: so that helped. 914 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 3: And I think that's when the Patriots get pressure, like 915 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter Sunday when they were killing Zach Wilson, right. 916 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 4: Like they play they need to like you know, the 917 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 4: Chargers want want to shrink the game, they want to 918 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 4: choke you out. They have a good defense. Number one 919 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 4: drive time, They're not going to give up a lot 920 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 4: of points. That's how they feel. At least they are 921 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 4: second in the league in time of possession. Like, so 922 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 4: they want to choke out the game. And if I'm 923 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 4: the Patriots, you want to do the opposite. You want 924 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 4: to turn this thing and to attract me, Like you 925 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 4: want to put points on the board, and you want 926 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 4: to make Herbert drop back as many times as you 927 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 4: possibly can. If he turns into the grinded out rock 928 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 4: fight type of game, then that gives a Chargers punters chance. 929 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 3: Short possession game where you know, you get in the 930 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 3: ball six or seven times instead of eight or nine. Right, Yeah, 931 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 3: it's advantage they want to do. They want to play 932 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 3: they do all year. 933 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're very good on third down offensively, Uh, 934 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 4: they're very good at moving chains and staying on the 935 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 4: field and all that kind of stuff. So you just 936 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 4: that's the type of game that they want to play. 937 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 4: And I think the Patriots have the ability because of 938 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 4: how explosive their offense is, they have the ability to 939 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 4: play the other way. And I think you need to 940 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 4: kind of come in and try to boat raise them. 941 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 6: That's just who's going to make the place on defense. 942 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,439 Speaker 6: And that's you know, also four and fourth in place 943 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 6: per drive. I mean, so they're just and we've seen 944 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 6: the Patriots defense when they're at their worst over the 945 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 6: last few weeks of just nobody can make a play, 946 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 6: you know. I mean teams are just six yards four yards, 947 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 6: eight yards four yards, you know, right down the field. 948 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 6: That's what scares me is allowing them to just put 949 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 6: those drives and it's going to have can't get it. 950 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: They'll probably be there should be a couple of drive. 951 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 6: That are seven plays and and you got to make 952 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 6: a red zone stop. And you know, there's just there's 953 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 6: these little flaws that you can point out on this 954 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 6: Patriots team that you just you wonder when you get 955 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 6: in to these playoff games, what's gonna matter and what's 956 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 6: not going to matter. Does the red zone defense matter? 957 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 6: Do they get some red zone stops? Because now you 958 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 6: do it in the playoffs. You can say they were 959 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 6: thirty second all year long, but you get two stops 960 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 6: and that's the difference in the game. 961 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: Then this isn't the old days where you get to 962 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: buy your first game. 963 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 3: Well, and Mike's point is really valid to you know, 964 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 3: like all of these kinds of things playoff games, you're 965 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 3: expecting to have a tight game and those are the 966 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: little things that decide the games. Can you make the 967 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 3: four point play. Can you get a stop in the 968 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 3: red zone and the other team doesn't you you are 969 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 3: able to convert in the redstone. That's that's how the 970 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 3: separation happens. You know, you went forward on fourth down 971 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 3: twice and you got one. They went forward and fourth 972 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: down twice and you stopped them both times. You know 973 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 3: those that's the different in the game. Steal a possession here, yep. 974 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 3: You know it doesn't have to be like, well, you 975 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 3: gotta win the turnover battle, no poop. Yeah, you know, 976 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 3: like obviously you want to win the turnover battle. But 977 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 3: those key plays in every game has I don't know, 978 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 3: eight or ten of them? Do you win more than 979 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 3: you lose? You get the third and one? Do you 980 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 3: stop their third and one's? And that's why I brought 981 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 3: that up. 982 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 4: Now I want to play that kind of team. 983 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 3: I don't want to play that kind of game either, 984 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: But that's what these games generally come down to. 985 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: And that's and that's why I want you for third 986 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: mediums because I feel. 987 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 6: Like the third and mediums are where a lot of games, 988 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 6: those are the. 989 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 3: Margins seven and I had no interest in watching the 990 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 3: third medium, So you picked us up in that regard. 991 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 4: I just watch all the third down. I don't stereotype 992 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 4: against the specific kind of third down. I just I 993 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 4: think with this Chargers team, they're really well coached, They're 994 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 4: really good situationally, like third down, third and shorts, things 995 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 4: like that. I would not want to play that kind 996 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 4: of game with them. I would want to play a 997 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 4: game where our offense is healthier and is better than yours, 998 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 4: and we're just gonna hang points on the board that 999 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 4: you can't keep up with. Yeah, because if you start 1000 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 4: to get into like oh it's you know, we got 1001 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 4: to convert this fourth down or we got to get 1002 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 4: this red zone stop or whatever, like that's their game, 1003 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 4: Like that is how they beat teams. So I just 1004 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 4: think that this is one of those games where I 1005 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 4: think the Patriots are the better team. 1006 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: So, like I always, how big a margin. 1007 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 4: I think they're I don't know if it's a huge margin, 1008 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 4: but I think they're a better team. 1009 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: I don't mean points. I mean just like, you know, 1010 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: our team is better than you buy a lot or 1011 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: a little or. 1012 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 4: You know enough that I think that if the Patriots 1013 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,399 Speaker 4: don't shoot themselves in the foot, they could win this game. 1014 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: Came Okay, so if you play clean football, you win. 1015 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 4: I think that if they play clean football and play 1016 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 4: to the level that we've seen them play all year, 1017 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 4: that this could be kind of an easy win. 1018 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: But you know, easy is the wrong word, Like that 1019 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: games that they've won, they've had lapses, you know, second 1020 00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,280 Speaker 1: quarter or whatever. Can you afford to have a as 1021 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: in this game? Or do you have to play full 1022 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 1: sixty minutes? 1023 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 4: I think you can afford it. 1024 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 6: It's the playoff team. I think they're just guaranteed to justin. 1025 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 6: Herbert's going to put a couple drives together and you 1026 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 6: just have to be ready to accept that. I mean, 1027 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 6: this is a good team. This is the playoffs. 1028 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: This is I mean. And the thing that we almost 1029 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: have to do and we forget to do is look 1030 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: at it from the Chargers side, like what are they 1031 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: worried about? Like like can they afford to have a lapse? 1032 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 4: I think what I would worry about if I was 1033 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 4: the Chargers, and what I'd be also feeling good about. 1034 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 4: If I start with the feeling good, I'd feel good 1035 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,479 Speaker 4: about the fact that you're not facing a dominant pass rush, 1036 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 4: so like you can. 1037 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: It was Houston or you know what I mean, and 1038 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: that's the time. 1039 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 4: So you could realistically say, yeah, like Milton Williams and 1040 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 4: Barmore are nice on the inside, but we we don't 1041 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 4: feel like we're going to be overwhelmed on the line 1042 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 4: of scrimmage offensively. I think the concern that I would 1043 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 4: have if I was a Charger fan is that May 1044 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 4: and McDaniels have just continuedly shredded zone. And if you're 1045 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 4: gonna sit in zone against the Patriots, I think you're 1046 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 4: gonna have trouble stopping them. So if you're the Chargers, 1047 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 4: like can you pivot to more man to man? Can 1048 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 4: you pivot to something else? They're not really built to 1049 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,839 Speaker 4: do that, so like where where does that rubber meet 1050 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 4: the road? Like are they able to come up with 1051 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 4: something else that's a change up? But maybe the Patriots 1052 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 4: aren't as expecting as much to pivot to if Drake 1053 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 4: May goes touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, because you're sitting in quarters 1054 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 4: and he's just okay coming in. 1055 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: Do we have Rabel today? 1056 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1057 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,439 Speaker 1: Ye? Okay, right real quick? 1058 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, reminder Stevenson AFC Offensive Player of. 1059 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: The Week, Oh we go. So I think that's like 1060 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: multiple times we've got that award right's six times this 1061 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: season of seventeen or eighteen weeks. Yeah, and six different 1062 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: players too. 1063 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 3: The reasons why I have a lot of confidence that 1064 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 3: Patriots moved the ball on Sunday night. 1065 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, we went back before catch twenty two. 1066 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: Barth was hanging out. 1067 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 6: We were trying to figure out how many times they 1068 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 6: they've had multiple guys win this award. And I think 1069 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 6: this is at least as far as we could see 1070 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 6: a team record. That's six different thirty. 1071 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,280 Speaker 1: Cent of the season the Patriots have had that award. 1072 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's three times on Session's amazing, Chase on 1073 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 6: on defense and May yeah, so yeah, and then and 1074 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 6: now steven since the sixth yeah, O three, they had 1075 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 6: a bunch a bunch of special teamers like Bethel Johnson 1076 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 6: and uh I think the other one was oh seven, 1077 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,919 Speaker 6: but it was like Brady had like four of them. 1078 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 6: So you know, that's all right. Let's get some phone 1079 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 6: calls in here. 1080 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 9: Uh. 1081 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: I know people are waiting to get involved, So let's 1082 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: start with Danny and Daytona. What's up, Danny? 1083 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 9: Hey, can you guys? 1084 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we can all right? 1085 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: Uh calling back. 1086 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 9: I tried to call it, so I just wanted to 1087 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 9: time in the first thing I wanted to say was 1088 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 9: it was a good game. You know, Miami just moved 1089 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 9: past that. Uh. I am tired of the whole Drake 1090 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 9: Drake made nickname. So let's move past that. 1091 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: Okay, it's your show, Danny, you tell us what to do. 1092 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 4: I agree, Danny here spot on. 1093 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 9: Uh So let's move past that. Like said, uh to 1094 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 9: Evansborn I called, you know, spoken early or twenty two. 1095 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:02,879 Speaker 10: I do. 1096 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 9: There's well two things. Actually. The first thing is I 1097 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 9: think the Pop Douglas should be a big factor in 1098 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 9: this game. I was watching this kind on CBS. He's 1099 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 9: talked about with Matt Ryan that they should have used 1100 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 9: Pop Douglas and and I guess step On too to 1101 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 9: kind of like stretch the field horizontally, just because the 1102 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 9: Chargers have a really good safety and corner group. So 1103 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 9: if we're able to stress the field, which Josh likes 1104 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 9: to do, those those bubble screens and those crops, you know, 1105 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 9: those slants and outs and whatnot, and ends, if we 1106 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 9: can use pop Douglas and maybe a couple other good 1107 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 9: receivers a little smaller shifty, maybe y'all Paull favorite e 1108 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 9: f and Chism throw them in there, Uh, kind of 1109 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 9: having some confusion maybe blocking or whatever. Then some designs 1110 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,399 Speaker 9: off of that. I think that'll kind of kind of 1111 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 9: throw off the Chargers because they're you know, if we 1112 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 9: showed some looks like we're trying to target downfield, but 1113 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 9: we're really just throwing in the middle, you know, it 1114 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 9: might get set him up. So I think that's one thing. 1115 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 9: The other day, when the time in is on the 1116 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 9: the coaching carousals, are you guys surprised to see that 1117 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 9: Detroit blew out their staff, Washington blew out their staff, Dallas, 1118 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 9: I'm not surprised. Ebra Flus. I don't see how he 1119 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,720 Speaker 9: could find himself another job. He should have been fired 1120 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,919 Speaker 9: a long time ago. And then the other thing, uh. 1121 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: Show. 1122 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, Arizona was talking about or somebody mentioned on the 1123 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 9: broadcast about bringing Josh McDaniels there, but I don't see 1124 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,320 Speaker 9: that happening. I did talk about Devin earlier, about Thomas Brown, 1125 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 9: Thomas Brown saying that they were gonna interview him there 1126 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 9: with Arizona, and then uh, and then Brady. The last 1127 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 9: thing with the with the Raiders. Didn't know the Raiders 1128 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 9: are paying fire coaches fifty five millions that's even including 1129 00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 9: Josh McDaniels. 1130 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: And that's a lot of Pizza Hut commercials. 1131 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like the owners have a lot of money. 1132 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 3: Thanks Danny, appreciate the call. 1133 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,280 Speaker 6: I don't think this will be a big pop. Douglas 1134 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 6: well every thinking of his own thing. I mean, this 1135 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 6: have his own team, is this you know idea? 1136 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't like this is not like I 1137 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 4: didn't like. You can take all the bubble screens and 1138 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 4: send them someplace else this week, like this is you 1139 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 4: want to get down the field. 1140 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 3: I'd like to see Booty, you know, get back to 1141 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 3: the way it was earlier in the season and catch 1142 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 3: a couple of bombs. 1143 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, how often in the playoffs do guys emerge 1144 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: and do things that they didn't do in the regular season. 1145 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: That's good question. 1146 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 6: My mind goes right to, like Malcolm Mitchell is a 1147 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 6: guy that maybe stuffed up and maybe exceeded in production. 1148 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 4: Guy on the Seahawks and Super Bowl forty nine that 1149 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 4: was freaking yeah, yeah, yeah, it was god that. 1150 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1151 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 3: I don't think that happens all that often. But I 1152 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 3: could see Douglas. I mean, Douglas has been a part 1153 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 3: of the offense periodically. 1154 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 6: Throughout the Yeah, yeah, he pops up Douglas. 1155 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 3: But I don'tdn't think like to Fred's point, I don't 1156 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 3: think it's going to be an eight for one hundred 1157 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 3: and twenty for Douglas. It might be three, right, you know, 1158 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 3: and you say, wow, Pop Dogg has had a really 1159 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 3: good game today, Like I could see that, But he's 1160 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 3: done that periodically throughout the scene. 1161 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 4: If they play like Houston or Denver, then Pop Douglas 1162 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 4: will have have a have his day. I think when 1163 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,239 Speaker 4: teams that play more man to man, uh this this 1164 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 4: team plays a lot of that, like Exotic Zone, so 1165 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 4: like it's going to be reading it out, it's going 1166 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,359 Speaker 4: to be knowing where the soft spots are. 1167 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 3: You know, he wouldn't, I agree with you, And he's 1168 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 3: like he wouldn't see Lass or Stingley, right, And then 1169 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 3: if they're playing man, yeah, he's going to get like 1170 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 3: the third corner. 1171 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 4: They usually play, the fourth, they usually play the safety. 1172 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,439 Speaker 1: Petra right, the always optimistic Christian from LA what's up? 1173 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 11: Hey you guys, Hey, you guys, Hey, you guys. You 1174 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 11: know what I gotta say. I want to ask if 1175 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 11: anybody out there feels the way I feel and and 1176 00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 11: that's like Peter fran that was there, well, the Patriots 1177 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 11: that was there, like as the dynasty came together right 1178 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 11: in the heyday of the dynasty, that took it personally, 1179 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,759 Speaker 11: that made it part of my personality. I was a 1180 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 11: winner because the Pats were winners, right, and then to 1181 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 11: see it all collapse. But now to see a spark, right, 1182 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 11: like a real spark. And it's not like we have 1183 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 11: the second year quarterback that's kind of coming along and 1184 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 11: the team's colassic, but this kid is like amazing, right, 1185 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 11: like like really amazing, and it makes it, it makes 1186 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,760 Speaker 11: them different because it makes it feel like we actually 1187 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 11: have a kind of chance to be that good at 1188 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,279 Speaker 11: some point again. And so with that like waving but 1189 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 11: falling up to my check, I'm feeling like a thirty 1190 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 11: eight ten victory. And then onto this colossal matchup gets 1191 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 11: Buffalo in the AFC Championship game. 1192 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 4: But if. 1193 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 11: If the team's like journey ends of this week, we 1194 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 11: still win. We won the season, We won the proverbial 1195 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 11: war of tandis organization can rebuild and then we win 1196 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,400 Speaker 11: the future. And so that makes me feel like like 1197 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,479 Speaker 11: we are witnessed again, like the heyday, I'm doing thirty eight. 1198 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: Pens because one visit to the picklebar and he's ready 1199 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 1: to go. 1200 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 4: I would just you know, the caller before, all right, Christian, 1201 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 4: but the caller before I mentioned some of the coaching changes, 1202 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 4: coordinator levels and stuff like that, Like Washington was just 1203 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 4: in the NFC Championship game. 1204 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: Last year and now they and what good did it? 1205 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: Tom fired both. 1206 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,760 Speaker 4: Their coordinators or cod Dude, if Detroit was the same spot, 1207 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 4: shame their offensive. 1208 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: But if we do, if we if we make a 1209 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: run next year, get during the year. Yeah, yeah, I 1210 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: don't know. 1211 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 3: I'm I'm just saying Matt was like one year in Dallas, 1212 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 3: Like it's like he should have been gone a long 1213 00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 3: time ago. Like he's just like it was his show. 1214 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,160 Speaker 3: You know, we're just like living it. But I know 1215 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 3: he was talking. 1216 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,800 Speaker 4: About the NFL is a year to year thing happens 1217 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 4: all the time. Twenty twenty six could be a very 1218 00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 4: different thing. 1219 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: Could be and it probably will be better or worse. 1220 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:07,399 Speaker 1: Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad? How you gots doing doing? 1221 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 1: All right? Brad? 1222 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: All right? 1223 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 9: I agree with a whole few about jesse Mentor. 1224 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 11: I did watch him in Michigan when he's the defensive 1225 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 11: have dried. Yeah, there's there's gonna be. 1226 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 3: Time pressure and there's times you. 1227 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: Gotta talking to the phone. I think he has a back. 1228 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 11: They're going to. 1229 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 1: Okay, we're losing your Sorry about that. 1230 00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 3: But I do think I understand and and Evan was 1231 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 3: nodding to you know, Minter is a guy who has 1232 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 3: a clue. You know, he did some NFL type stuff 1233 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 3: at Michigan with Harbaugh. Those guys have been together. There's 1234 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,760 Speaker 3: the reason why Jesse Mintter is one of the guys 1235 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 3: that's being talked about to fill one of these seven openings. 1236 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 3: He's had a really, really good couple of years with 1237 00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 3: the Chardgers. 1238 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1239 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't be surprised that Baltimore gives him a real 1240 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 3: good looks. 1241 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 1: He was there. He was there, Brad. 1242 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 4: I knew Brad's a Michigan guy, so I should haven't 1243 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 4: seen that one. He must have gone to the machine. 1244 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: We have some feedback on the fan mentality. A bunch 1245 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,040 Speaker 1: of emails Spencer Wrights and Patrios fans are preparing to 1246 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: lose because we went four and thirteen back to back seasons. 1247 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: These same fans, of course want us to win the 1248 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Well, I mean, maybe they're preparing to lose. 1249 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 1: But I'm what I'm saying is, because you went four 1250 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: and thirteen last year. See, you should be appreciative of 1251 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: what's going on here and if they don't go all 1252 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: the way, Okay. 1253 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 3: You always should look at a game and just say 1254 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 3: you should never look at it and say there's no 1255 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 3: way we can win this game or there's no way 1256 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 3: we can lose this game. I mean, you're in the playoff. 1257 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 3: R I mean, this is not like Tom Brady's heyday 1258 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 3: when you're having double buys against Tim Tebow. No, Like, 1259 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 3: you know, like Christian made the comment thirty eight to ten, 1260 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 3: and like, I'm not ruling that out. I think the 1261 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 3: Patriots could get on a roll and continue. I think 1262 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 3: they're playing really well. But he said, tell me why not? Well, 1263 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 3: why not? You've played one team this year that's as 1264 00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 3: good as the Chargers. You beat them twenty three to twenty, 1265 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 3: and you lost to them thirty five to thirty one. 1266 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,520 Speaker 3: You haven't played any other team that's anywhere near as 1267 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 3: good as this one. 1268 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,919 Speaker 1: And I don't think that at the time. 1269 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 4: No, but Baltimore is closed. 1270 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 3: No now, Yeah, you could say that, but they're not 1271 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 3: even here, Like they didn't even win more games than 1272 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 3: they lost. Now, you could make an argument because of 1273 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 3: personnel and the injury, not right. 1274 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 4: Here because of a forty two yard field goal. 1275 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 3: No, okay, but they would be here and they would 1276 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 3: be out in a game like because they would be 1277 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 3: nine and eight instead of eight and nine. I don't 1278 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 3: think they're as good as the Chargers now heading into 1279 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 3: the season. Would I say that Ravens roster was better 1280 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 3: than the Chargers by a lot? Yes, answer would have 1281 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,919 Speaker 3: been yes. But they didn't have that team all year. 1282 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 4: But the Ravens are healthier now than the Charger. 1283 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,640 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, not not Sunday night, they weren't. The 1284 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 3: whole secondary was out and that's when Aaron Rodgers turned 1285 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:04,479 Speaker 3: into Aaron Rudge. 1286 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 4: Kyle Hamilton got hurt during that. 1287 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 3: So did Nate Wiggins, and so did the Woozy, a 1288 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 3: guy who ended up falling down. He came back in 1289 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 3: the game and fell down on the game winning touchdown. 1290 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: Woozy, it was a little loozy. Oh go ahead. 1291 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, Fred, should we should we 1292 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 6: talk about Friday Night? 1293 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 4: Should we? 1294 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 6: Uh? 1295 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: Sure? 1296 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 2: Up? 1297 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: Hype that job. 1298 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 6: Du All Access Live Patriots Playoff Kickoff Kickoff Party. 1299 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: Sorry they get that right. 1300 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 6: All Access Live Patriots Playoff Kickoff Party here uh ptury 1301 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 6: Atcheleette Stadium, ending with a live taping of All Access. 1302 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: I won't be on it this week. Uh wow, you 1303 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: got you got big time. 1304 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 4: They SPT you. 1305 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 1: Out, but we'n start will be on it now. Come 1306 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: on down six pm Friday. 1307 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 6: Uh starts here down right outside the right outside the stadium. 1308 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 1: They'll be in the plaza. 1309 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 6: They'll have photo ops, a DJ, a drum line, giveaways, 1310 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 6: including to tickets to Sunday's game. So I hope everybody 1311 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 6: come down. Vince Wilfork and other Patriots alumni will be appearing. 1312 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 6: So that's uh yeah, six to eight here at Gillette Stadium, 1313 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 6: and they're gonna cap it off with the All Access. 1314 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 3: Part of our own promotions. It's amazing. So it's amazing. 1315 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 1: Come down. It starts at six, So this party starts 1316 00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: at six out outside and then the All Access show 1317 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: starts at seven. You can either be in the plaza 1318 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: where the main stage is, or up at the Harp, 1319 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: the bar here at Patriot Place that overlooks the plaza. 1320 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: They'll be showing everything in there on the monitors as well. 1321 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 1: Uh so either one and then you know, stay at 1322 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: the harp and watch college football that night. So yes, 1323 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 1: so it's a big night. Come on down six o'clock. 1324 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 1: It's all free. 1325 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 6: I told Paul, I'm gonna calm. I think we're gonna 1326 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 6: bring my family. We're gonna have dinner here at Patriot Place, 1327 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 6: and then we're gonna walk buy and then we're gonna. 1328 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 4: Heckle do so thing we usually. 1329 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,320 Speaker 1: Got to dinner Friday night. 1330 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 4: And why we come out of the sushi place? 1331 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe maybe that was on the list. Actually we 1332 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 6: were discussing it last night. Nothing against we love you know, 1333 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 6: we love some saga hibachi up here, but that barbecue 1334 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 6: has been a. 1335 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Minute we went there. So yeah, bbn NH writes in first, 1336 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Fred's all right to start. Every show makes my day. 1337 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: It never changes, and it's always great. Speaking of never changing. 1338 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Regarding the debate amongst Fred, Paul, and Evan about how 1339 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: it will feel, why isn't deuced part of it. It's 1340 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: about how it will feel if the Patriots lose. Paul 1341 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: and Fred simply speak with the rationality of older folks 1342 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 1: who don't care what anyone thinks or says about them. 1343 01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: They know what passes their eye tests, and that's that. 1344 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Evan is entangled in the web of the populace and 1345 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: doesn't want to see the opinions of silly people who 1346 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 1: negate his ball knowing anyway, Go Patriots, Let's see DMX 1347 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 1: have another three hundred yard game and get another touchdown 1348 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,560 Speaker 1: the Chisholm. I guess it's Drake may Drake may X. 1349 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 4: I agree with with him, though it's a it's my 1350 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 4: LEAs favorite part of sports fandom at the moment is 1351 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 4: the Twitter machine. It is the noise that comes from it. 1352 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 4: For some people, it's easier to not than others. Like 1353 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 4: I've I've started to get there at my old age 1354 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 4: of thirty three. I'm starting to get to the point 1355 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 4: where I don't give a crap of what's going on 1356 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 4: in my phone. But that's not the norm. I would 1357 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 4: say the norm sports fan right now is you know, 1358 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,360 Speaker 4: chirping other fan bases and whatever. Like it's just the 1359 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 4: NonStop cesspool. 1360 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: I like that email Yeah yeah, Tony and potton Uk 1361 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 1: on the seat, we told you you're a fraud. And 1362 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 1: those saying they don't want an easier schedule of that 1363 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: was given to that. I don't know what that means, 1364 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: but as you've all said, we've had this schedule because 1365 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: we have been more than useless the previous two seasons. 1366 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 1: The NFL's creates the schedules in this way to create 1367 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 1: interest in even the playing field. In that way, it's 1368 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: been a success, and the Patriots were able to recruit 1369 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: well and take advantage of that schedule. However, without the 1370 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: great work from the recruitment and coaching staff, we would 1371 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 1: never have been in a position to take advantage of 1372 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: the schedule. I'm with Fred and Paul, but I'm also 1373 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 1: a similar age. Just turn that social crap off if 1374 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 1: we lose and forget about it. 1375 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 3: Well, and I would say, if it really bothers you, yeah, 1376 01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 3: Like I know, I'm saying. 1377 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 4: You're trying to explain the mentality of the people. That 1378 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 4: Fred brought up is that this is the way that 1379 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 4: this is the climate now, is that we have to 1380 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 4: listen to Cam Newton on TV and then you have 1381 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 4: to listen to the people on your phone and all 1382 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 4: these people are just yelling at you telling you how 1383 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 4: easy the schedule is. 1384 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 3: I guess I picked in that, but I would never 1385 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 3: look at Cam Newton and take that seriously for a second. 1386 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 4: No one's taking it seriously. 1387 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 3: But you know, I mean I would look at, you know, 1388 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 3: the the haters that are going to throw the schedule, 1389 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 3: and I'd be like, yeah, yeah, well, you know, I 1390 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,200 Speaker 3: don't think that they played a very good schedule either, 1391 01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 3: so I can sort of agree with that. Now, again, 1392 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 3: those guys are going to just claim you wouldn't have 1393 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,520 Speaker 3: been in the playoffs in the first place even if 1394 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 3: they win. So you can't beat those guys. I don't know, 1395 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 3: because those are just loud mouths. It's just because a 1396 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 3: lot of teams that have really really bad schedules have won. 1397 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it won't be it won't be nearly as 1398 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 4: loud in those. 1399 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:16,439 Speaker 7: Oh it won't. 1400 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,640 Speaker 3: No, it won't be as loud. 1401 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 6: I've seen a couple of historical things of like a 1402 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,080 Speaker 6: lot of Super Bowl champions, Like I mean, I think the. 1403 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,840 Speaker 3: Rams they benefit from very bad like the benefit from 1404 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 3: very bad kind part of the formula, And I mean 1405 01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 3: a light's getting shown on it this week. 1406 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 6: But I think it's a bigger question of do you 1407 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 6: think it serves the team better to yeah, maybe they 1408 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 6: don't play the iron during the regular season, and they 1409 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 6: feast and they get confident, and they beat up on 1410 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 6: some teams. But you know, a team that maybe has 1411 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 6: had ups and downs and battles and had to fight 1412 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 6: through some injuries and they sneak into the playoffs, but 1413 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 6: they've been tested a little bit. 1414 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: Maybe. 1415 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying, you know, this will be another 1416 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 6: example of how true or not that is. 1417 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,439 Speaker 3: I think there's two sides of that, And I would 1418 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 3: say it's inarguable that the first part worked for the Patriots, 1419 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 3: right they got they had a little soft spot, you know, 1420 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 3: and they had some they got some confidence underneath him, 1421 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 3: and then they went to Buffalo and won. Yeah, and 1422 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 3: it was like they took off there. 1423 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 1: There goes the greatest there was. 1424 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 3: You need to brush up on your third and medium. 1425 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 3: So Evan stays for the whole show. 1426 01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 1: That's too bad, because Pauli in La says Evan FM all, 1427 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,200 Speaker 1: no one can take away the fun of the season. 1428 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 1: Losing is as important as winning and how you handle it. 1429 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Focus on the positive and shut out the noise. 1430 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 3: That's kind of how I am, Like, I don't it 1431 01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 3: doesn't really it bothers me that my team lost it 1432 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 3: doesn't bother me because what other people say about it. 1433 01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it doesn't. 1434 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Know, I really affect. I understand what Evan is. 1435 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,520 Speaker 6: But I'm with you guys in that I've kind of 1436 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,880 Speaker 6: slowly extracted myself from needing to you know, you want 1437 01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 6: to hear what I think about the Patriots. I talk 1438 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,920 Speaker 6: about six hours a week here, and I talk about 1439 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 6: it whatever four hours on the weekend. 1440 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Like you know this is in some weeks. 1441 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 3: You have more TV shows to talk about to disappointed 1442 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 3: this week, so you have a little less Yeah, well, 1443 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 3: can't give your meeting with Wherry. 1444 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: I know why the Jason clarifies that DMX means Drake 1445 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,680 Speaker 1: may ten. Oh okay, we got a new one DMX, 1446 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 1: so like TV twelve, I think y'all going to make 1447 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 1: me lose my mind one. 1448 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 3: Speaking of DMX, I saw something that made me chuckle 1449 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 3: a little bit today. Jamie Erdall, who hosts the NFL 1450 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 3: what was it called, Get. 1451 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,920 Speaker 1: Up, Wake Up, Good morning, Hell Up, Good. 1452 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 3: Morning football, Good morning football, Get the hell up. She 1453 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 3: they were all asked to list their teams, the most 1454 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 3: consistent team and she picked the page of poss right 1455 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 3: but the and they write them out on the white 1456 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 3: board and they show them. She wrote the new New England. 1457 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Patriots Patriots, you know, like Drake Drake, Yeah, yeah, good, 1458 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 1: I love it. 1459 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 3: Kevin, Yeah, I think it was New New England Patriots Patriots. 1460 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 1: I've heard this one too, and I don't understand, uh 1461 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 1: scared the charges may have the Patriots number based on 1462 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: how bad they beat the Patriots last time they played. Yeah, 1463 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 1: that's I've heard your shows. I've heard this on your 1464 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: show that I. 1465 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,600 Speaker 3: Have not heard that on show. You know, I don't 1466 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 3: think it has any relevance because this does. These are 1467 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 3: not the same player if they were the same team, 1468 01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 3: like I would say, okay. 1469 01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, I generally agree. I will just say though, 1470 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,640 Speaker 6: I don't dismiss the fact of Justin Herbert came into 1471 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 6: the stadium and played well and should have familiarity with 1472 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 6: how it is and confidence, and I agree it definitely 1473 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 6: doesn't matter. 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In the first 1517 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 14: shout of the playoffs, Yeah it was big. We talked 1518 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:56,799 Speaker 14: all week. I mean we still had you know, business. 1519 01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,160 Speaker 8: It is a division opponent, so you know, come in 1520 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 8: here getting fourteen wins on the season. That was you know, 1521 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 8: our big thing was just finishing what we started. So 1522 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,040 Speaker 8: he was able to do that. You know we're going 1523 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,320 Speaker 8: now it's a new season, so we're aside. 1524 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,920 Speaker 15: For Christian, you've been here back to back four win seasons. 1525 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 15: Now you know game wraps up fourteen wins. You're on 1526 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 15: the precipice of playing in your first playoff game. I 1527 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,560 Speaker 15: know this one just standard. You've got a week to go, 1528 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 15: But what's the mindset heading into your first shot at 1529 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 15: the postseason. 1530 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 8: I'm excited, very excited to be able to play in January. 1531 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's a it's a as a kid, 1532 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 8: it's a dream come true. Really, I mean just being 1533 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 8: able to play in the playoffs. And we came in 1534 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,320 Speaker 8: and Brays came in and said, you know, win the 1535 01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,920 Speaker 8: division and host home playoff games, so we are able 1536 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 8: to do that. 1537 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 16: So, like I said, my understanding is the Cardinals ask 1538 01:09:56,080 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 16: permission to talk to Thomas Brown. I was wondering what 1539 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 16: he's provided, what he's done for you. 1540 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll focus you know, I mean I want the 1541 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,760 Speaker 2: best for every single coach that's here. I do, and 1542 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 2: we'll focus on that. Whenever they can talk to our coaches, 1543 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,680 Speaker 2: we'll approach that. I'm excited for every one of them 1544 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,519 Speaker 2: that could get an opportunity. I'll help them however I can. 1545 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,040 Speaker 2: But our focus is obviously on the on the Chargers 1546 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 2: this week and a and a huge task against a 1547 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 2: a really good football team. 1548 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 17: Other than the obvious physical tools, what does drum and 1549 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 17: James bring to the table. 1550 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 2: The beats so good? Uh, you know, I think he's 1551 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 2: got really good instincts. You know, when he blitzes whether 1552 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 2: to go inside or go outside, I think he uh, 1553 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,120 Speaker 2: you know, there's a passion, there's a there's a love 1554 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 2: for football. There there's a play demeanor. He's a very 1555 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 2: good tackler. You know, he can cover, he matches up, 1556 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 2: he has versatility to play down or you know, close 1557 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage. He can play you know, 1558 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,960 Speaker 2: in the deeper part of the field. And again I 1559 01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 2: just having the luxury, uh to coach a Pro Bowl. 1560 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 2: He was on that team and just an unbelievable person. 1561 01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,280 Speaker 2: I remember his mom was getting married and he's like coaching. 1562 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 2: He like he like communicated, like reached out like hey, 1563 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss it down. I was like, buddy, this 1564 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,559 Speaker 2: is I don't think there's any rules to the Pro Bowl. 1565 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 2: And so just remembering that about him, I always have 1566 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 2: a lot of respect for him. Obviously the player is, 1567 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 2: but the person. 1568 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 18: I said, Drake has a lot of answers to defensive 1569 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,679 Speaker 18: tests this year. What is it about you and Josh 1570 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 18: the whole staff being sort of proactive about making sure 1571 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 18: he's ready when he sees something. 1572 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 2: Maybe that there's a lot of growth there. And I 1573 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 2: think a lot of growth as we've worked from the 1574 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 2: off season through training camp and joint practices versus the 1575 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 2: Commanders and the Vikings and against our defense, and then 1576 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 2: working through the regular season, you know, just trying to 1577 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 2: give him the best chance and to put us in 1578 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,920 Speaker 2: the right situation. And I think he's learned from some 1579 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,640 Speaker 2: of those instances where maybe he could have gone to 1580 01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 2: something else, and I think he's learned from that. So 1581 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 2: that's been really good to see. And that's you know, 1582 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 2: credit to Josh obviously. 1583 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 1: In Ashton Chargers playing style, you talked a. 1584 01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 4: Lot about your own with you kind of learned. 1585 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 2: About, you know, what they do with big, physical football team. 1586 01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 2: They don't really beat themselves. They statistically excellent in every 1587 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 2: category across the front. Defensively, they don't just stop the 1588 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 2: run well or they don't give up, you know, but 1589 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,520 Speaker 2: they're good on third down, or good on the short yardage, 1590 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:42,600 Speaker 2: excellent in the red zone, and I think it's uh, 1591 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 2: you look at a play that broke against the Texans 1592 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 2: of was the screen to the left, and you know, 1593 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 2: every single guy on defense is chasing the ball and 1594 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,479 Speaker 2: Khalil Mack wins the race and hammers the football out 1595 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 2: and causes the fumble. So those those are the things 1596 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 2: that I can appreciate, you know, with with a defense 1597 01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 2: or for a team. And you know, this is certainly 1598 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 2: a team that's gonna you know, play that way Moses 1599 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,960 Speaker 2: meant to your team. And in the slaughter host great 1600 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 2: veteran presence, I think that he's played well. It hasn't 1601 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 2: just been a presence. I mean he's protected the quarterback 1602 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 2: and uh it's been out there and you know, we 1603 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 2: got some guys sick today Morgan will be in one 1604 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 2: of the that group of guys that are that are sick, 1605 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 2: so he won't be getting the physical reps. But just 1606 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 2: I think, uh, everything that we've we've wanted him to 1607 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,040 Speaker 2: be and needed him to be as far as changing 1608 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 2: over some personnel and and adding him. So that's been 1609 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 2: it's been fun to watch that group. Joel like who 1610 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:54,759 Speaker 2: else is sick? Brad Berry, Anthony Jennings, Verderian Lowe. 1611 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,800 Speaker 17: Does you rely on team identity as you get into 1612 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 17: what you've been able to build since really day one year? 1613 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 2: Well, we've said this numerous times. You can't just play 1614 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,760 Speaker 2: hard and hope to win, you know, run like this 1615 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,560 Speaker 2: with the football and hope that you're going to be 1616 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 2: able to break tackles or gain a bunch of yards. 1617 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,320 Speaker 2: So you need production, you need execution. So I think 1618 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 2: that it helps you. I mean, it's it's critical and 1619 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 2: being able to keep our composure with whatever happens in 1620 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 2: the football game, making sure that we execute in critical situations, 1621 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 2: you know. So again I think that the identity is important, 1622 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,760 Speaker 2: but execution and guys making plays and us you know, 1623 01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 2: all sticking together, you know, is going to mean the most. 1624 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 2: Chargers are second in the league in time of possession. 1625 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 1: What do they do well that allows them to put 1626 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 1: onto the ball and in a. 1627 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,160 Speaker 2: Playoff situation, how dangerous is a team that holds onto 1628 01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 2: the ball for. 1629 01:14:58,760 --> 01:14:59,320 Speaker 9: A long time? 1630 01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,599 Speaker 2: Well, they certainly you know, either a one or two 1631 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 2: based on whatever you look at. They they do a 1632 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,080 Speaker 2: nice shot. They don't mind it being in third and three, 1633 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,320 Speaker 2: and you know, run it to stay on track. And 1634 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 2: because they're really good on third down quarterback that can 1635 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 2: that can scramble for a first down, they can run it, 1636 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,639 Speaker 2: and they can multiple different route concepts and those down 1637 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 2: in distances, and so just probably the more that they 1638 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,600 Speaker 2: possess it, obviously the less that we get it. But 1639 01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,760 Speaker 2: I also think it's a mentality where they're trying to 1640 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,080 Speaker 2: wear you down and and win the game in the 1641 01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 2: fourth quarter and put the five minute tea you know, 1642 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 2: I mean, put their five minute offense out there and 1643 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 2: and and run it, run it to win it. Like 1644 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 2: last time when we had a playoff game here, you 1645 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,599 Speaker 2: were the visiting teams, Hyph coach, you describe this place 1646 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,120 Speaker 2: I have as a fifer stead. I know it's been 1647 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 2: a couple of years, but what did that turn meeting 1648 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 2: to you back then and what does it take to 1649 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,760 Speaker 2: leave you with that kind of reputation and your currency? Well, 1650 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 2: I mean it just got to be a tough place 1651 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,280 Speaker 2: to play in January. If we're able to get there 1652 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,200 Speaker 2: in January like we are, we have to create an 1653 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 2: environment that that makes it difficult to play. Whatever the 1654 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 2: record was back you know, when I was looking at 1655 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 2: the stats in twenty nineteen, twenty one and three or 1656 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,639 Speaker 2: whatever it was in January. I'm going to be off 1657 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 2: by a couple of games because it's a few years ago, 1658 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:31,559 Speaker 2: but that you know, we were talking about, you know 1659 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 2: what we would have to do to come in and win, 1660 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,000 Speaker 2: and we need to create a hard environment. We need 1661 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,439 Speaker 2: to play well and let our crowd feed off of 1662 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,160 Speaker 2: us and let us feed off of them. 1663 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 9: Personally in peril. 1664 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 17: Latery he comes back this week dealing with injury. Do 1665 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,479 Speaker 17: you have a sense of where you might be from 1666 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 17: a pass rur standpoint midweek or do you have to 1667 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,680 Speaker 17: find out the first quarter kind of when the giguet. 1668 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 2: Is going on a past rush? 1669 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, how much rush you might have with just your typical. 1670 01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 2: Cour No, man, I don't think that's a something that 1671 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 2: you could tell in practice. I mean, you got to 1672 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,680 Speaker 2: go out there and win and live action, and not 1673 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 2: only win, you have to be able to you know, 1674 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 2: get the guy on the ground. You know, Justin's just 1675 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 2: great play strength, toughness. You know, can avoid and scramble 1676 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 2: for a lot of yards and can stiff arm you 1677 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,880 Speaker 2: and you know, so again, I think that'll have to 1678 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:27,160 Speaker 2: be determined Sunday night from Walder Stevens, and he. 1679 01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,600 Speaker 16: Was named AFC Offensive Player in the League, which was 1680 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 16: actually the first time he's gotten his award his career. 1681 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,120 Speaker 4: What was it like to see him get that recognition 1682 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:35,720 Speaker 4: for his performance? 1683 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,600 Speaker 2: Always excited for our players, and you know, sounded like 1684 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 2: a broken record, but I think he continued to do 1685 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,720 Speaker 2: the things that we needed him to do to help 1686 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 2: us win, and in turn was rewarded for it with touchdowns, 1687 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 2: with rushing yards, with you know, big catch there, but 1688 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,799 Speaker 2: also he protected a quarterback. So I'm excited and happy 1689 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 2: for him, recognized him, and then we moved on. 1690 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 4: Like it's the first game this season where it's wait 1691 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 4: or go home. 1692 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 3: He said, it's a heightened sense of urgency around here. 1693 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,360 Speaker 2: You know. I mean, we need to embrace the preparation 1694 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,840 Speaker 2: and I want them to continue to enjoy, you know, 1695 01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 2: the execution and everything that goes on with us. I'm excited. 1696 01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 2: I'm excited for these guys to prepare them, excited to 1697 01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 2: coach them. So I mean, I hope they'll we're locked 1698 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 2: in every week and imagine we'll we'll get everything we 1699 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 2: can out of them. 1700 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 1: Like he's just kind of alluded to it to just 1701 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,280 Speaker 1: to be in this position. 1702 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 3: Bringing playoff football back to Ploxborough. 1703 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 2: Here, I don't want. Yeah, I mean I'm I'm happy, 1704 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm excited, but also we're not here just to you know, 1705 01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,640 Speaker 2: get here. You know, we we have to you know, 1706 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,720 Speaker 2: be able to host games and compete for championships. So 1707 01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,599 Speaker 2: there's not going to be any consolation prize for anybody. 1708 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,800 Speaker 2: You know, we understand what we have to do. 1709 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,719 Speaker 1: Previous matchups with Great Roman, what have you noticed about 1710 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,360 Speaker 1: how he operates? 1711 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 2: Does he kind of have a style that he appears 1712 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,639 Speaker 2: to or receive Well, I mean, you know, Greg's gonna 1713 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna be physical, and then they're gonna marry the 1714 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 2: play action pass and they off the run actions. They're 1715 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,840 Speaker 2: gonna look at things that they have given you trouble 1716 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,680 Speaker 2: in the past. They've got their core concepts, mixed personnel, 1717 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:26,080 Speaker 2: use big people, Lamar Jackson, So it's probably a little 1718 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,679 Speaker 2: different with with as much quarterback run. You know, they 1719 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 2: have it. You know, we'll have to be ready for it. 1720 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,320 Speaker 2: I just don't know if it'll be as much as 1721 01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,519 Speaker 2: what he did with Lamar Jackson, but you know, there's 1722 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,639 Speaker 2: a lot of carryover. There's also a lot of growth 1723 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:46,800 Speaker 2: and what he's done with mixing personnel, you know, keeping 1724 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,559 Speaker 2: your guessing, keeping you you know, moving guys around, motioning 1725 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 2: to get guys at the point of attack. 1726 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 19: This year about Drake as a leader, how have you 1727 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,800 Speaker 19: seen him demand more from his teammates and would this 1728 01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 19: be the kind of week where you'd expect him to 1729 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:05,120 Speaker 19: lead in that fashion. 1730 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,960 Speaker 2: I would hope that he would lead as our quarterback 1731 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,960 Speaker 2: every single week. This is a next week, It's an 1732 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 2: important week. I think just the command that he has 1733 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 2: in the huddle. You know, at practice, you see you know, 1734 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 2: communication with guys off on the side when you know 1735 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,320 Speaker 2: maybe the defense is working. You know, I see something. 1736 01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,040 Speaker 2: I see things during the game where you know he's 1737 01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 2: trying to get guys on the same page and you know, 1738 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 2: communicate to him and and that relationship there. So I 1739 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,759 Speaker 2: think he's continuing to work at it. And again it's, uh, 1740 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,719 Speaker 2: everybody's trying to become a little better leader. 1741 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 12: Obviously, you've got got a lot of successes here with 1742 01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:48,680 Speaker 12: a lot of head coaching. 1743 01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 1: Movement around the league. 1744 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 3: If you look back and think of through year off 1745 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 3: from being a head coach as being beneficial. 1746 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 2: That was probably it was the only option I had, 1747 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,559 Speaker 2: so I guess I didn't have a choice. 1748 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,719 Speaker 17: Mike, you talk offensively about X plays coming from seventy 1749 01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:08,600 Speaker 17: percent of guys may go to play thirty percent scheme defensively. 1750 01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 17: Does that whole true? Because I know obviously LA has 1751 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 17: been really really good at denying those X plays, and 1752 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,280 Speaker 17: it seems a lot of it is structural. But where's 1753 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:15,839 Speaker 17: that balance? 1754 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,960 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I imagine that for this was league 1755 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 2: wide when I just did like a quick you know, 1756 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,160 Speaker 2: when you look through each week, you know, I mean, 1757 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 2: some of those numbers may be off where but you know, 1758 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:36,160 Speaker 2: I think sometimes schematically, I think way you tackle goes 1759 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,800 Speaker 2: into that a lot, you know, I mean, the way 1760 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:42,360 Speaker 2: you play the football down the field, you know, split 1761 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,400 Speaker 2: safety versus post safety. I think there's some things going through. 1762 01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,759 Speaker 2: I just was saying that there. It's not always gonna 1763 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,479 Speaker 2: just be, you know, the best player making a play. 1764 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's gonna get schemed open. Sometimes we're gonna have 1765 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 2: to go make a play and it's a one on 1766 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 2: one matchup, and and that's kind of how those things 1767 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,160 Speaker 2: are created. Running backs, you know, be like, that's a 1768 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:05,680 Speaker 2: really cool run was untouched and everybody was blocked. Sometimes 1769 01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 2: you got to make a guy miss and break a tackle. 1770 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:09,639 Speaker 1: You mentioned Herbert. 1771 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,120 Speaker 2: Don't take me too literal here, I apologize. I just 1772 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,639 Speaker 2: try to say that it's a it's a combination. 1773 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned justin Herbert a couple of times. Just with 1774 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,680 Speaker 1: his physical skills. How how much of the challenges. 1775 01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 2: He break control A lot? A lot. He's got toughness, uh, 1776 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 2: great arm, talent, great athletic ability. You know he's under duress, 1777 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 2: I mean, and it doesn't really affect him. You don't 1778 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 2: see him get frustrated. A lot of respect for him 1779 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,280 Speaker 2: as a as a as a person man obviously as 1780 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,519 Speaker 2: a player, and you know, he's lived up to everything 1781 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:45,600 Speaker 2: that they thought he'd be as a franchise quarterback. And 1782 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 2: he's it's really just one of the best quarterbacks in 1783 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:49,840 Speaker 2: the league. 1784 01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,559 Speaker 20: Seems like the packages where you have seem the six 1785 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,760 Speaker 20: offensive line packages has been a very big reason for 1786 01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 20: the wrong game success recently led to the decision to 1787 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 20: maybe lean on those looks more and also why hasn't 1788 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,439 Speaker 20: been so successful for you guys. 1789 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 2: I don't think any time that we blocked the you 1790 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 2: know guys at the line of scrimmage and we blocked 1791 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,280 Speaker 2: the support player that we're able to run the football. 1792 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 2: So that's six linemen. If we need seven, I'll probably 1793 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,080 Speaker 2: draw the line there. But you know, however, many guys 1794 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,280 Speaker 2: we need to put out there that can that can 1795 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 2: move somebody off the line of scrimmage and block support. 1796 01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:24,080 Speaker 2: That's what I'm in favor of. 1797 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:36,880 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks, and now great moments in history. 1798 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,639 Speaker 21: Andrew used to go to the same gym as Andy 1799 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,639 Speaker 21: Hart right on run over here, so we'd see him 1800 01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,400 Speaker 21: every morning before work. So he said, one day at 1801 01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:47,799 Speaker 21: the gym, there's this guy and there was a boxing 1802 01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 21: one of those big boxing bags and the guy was 1803 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,679 Speaker 21: like hitting it really hard and grutting and whatever and 1804 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 21: like making a big scene. And here was like six 1805 01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 21: point thirty in the morning, Like what is this guy doing? 1806 01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 1: So he was about to go to Andy. 1807 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,680 Speaker 21: He'd be like, check out this guy. And all of 1808 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 21: a sudden and as soon as the guy was done, 1809 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,840 Speaker 21: Andy went over and he started doing the same thing 1810 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:13,200 Speaker 21: to the bag and Andrew. Andrew was like, he was like, 1811 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 21: I was literally like seconds away from being a hate 1812 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:16,280 Speaker 21: check out this guy. 1813 01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,679 Speaker 1: So that's part of Andy's routine that he never really 1814 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,800 Speaker 1: told us about. The heavy bag. We didn't know that 1815 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,120 Speaker 1: that was something he uses the heavy. 1816 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,799 Speaker 21: Bag, and Andrew was about to make fun of the other. 1817 01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 1: Guys, So they must have to stand really close with 1818 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 1: those short arms. Yeah, that's another great moment from all 1819 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,760 Speaker 1: right back here and Patriots Sunfiltered eight five five past 1820 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,639 Speaker 1: five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com. 1821 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 1: Is the email addresses Paul and I Evan left for Vrabel. 1822 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:47,680 Speaker 1: And then Duce got a text that there's a lot 1823 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 1: of people in the locker room. So he had a 1824 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 1: run to be part of that, right like he took off. 1825 01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go here. It's crazy in the locker room 1826 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,599 Speaker 1: on Ion Evan, and you know, Duce has to be, 1827 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,720 Speaker 1: you know, in the mix. This is like get a 1828 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 1: vibe chance. This is like, you know, for him, it's 1829 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,800 Speaker 1: like the pre party at the Academy Awards. He's got 1830 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:10,040 Speaker 1: to be in there, you know, hobnobbing with everybody. 1831 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 3: A little you were a little dismissive friend, a little 1832 01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,160 Speaker 3: bit anything from Rabel stick out to you. He has 1833 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,200 Speaker 3: a lot of respect for the Chargers and in the 1834 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 3: way they play. I felt like that when I listened 1835 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:22,280 Speaker 3: to him on Monday. 1836 01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean other than like you said while we 1837 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 1: were watching, maybe he's a little upset that no one 1838 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 1: offered him a job. 1839 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:30,519 Speaker 3: Last Yeah, yeah, he asked me. Was asked a question 1840 01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,000 Speaker 3: sort of later in the press conference, did he feel 1841 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:34,880 Speaker 3: like the year away was beneficial at all? 1842 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,080 Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you know, it wasn't really my choice. 1843 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,720 Speaker 1: I didn't have much of a choice or something. 1844 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,640 Speaker 3: I was always said. So I kind of got the 1845 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 3: impression he's still a little angry that he didn't get 1846 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 3: an offer last year. 1847 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:45,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1848 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think it was uh, you know. 1849 01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,479 Speaker 3: No, I thought he was pretty complimentary of the Chargers. 1850 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,040 Speaker 3: I thought I think he I didn't get the impression 1851 01:25:55,080 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 3: that he was necessarily saying things that you were like 1852 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 3: when Belichick would talk about the Cleveland Browns and say that, 1853 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 3: you know, this is an explosive team that can score 1854 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 3: any from anywhere on the field, and you look and 1855 01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 3: they're like thirty second in scoring. You know, I didn't 1856 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,040 Speaker 3: get any of those. Yeah, the things that he talked about, I. 1857 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,560 Speaker 1: Really think, and he talks about the punter. 1858 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,680 Speaker 3: Looked, Yeah, I've looked up some of these stats that 1859 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,320 Speaker 3: Mike has talked about on Monday and today, and I 1860 01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 3: already was aware of what the Chargers have done well 1861 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,040 Speaker 3: this year, and those are the things that stick out, 1862 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 3: I mean, top five and a lot of different things. 1863 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,000 Speaker 1: The other thing that you know, again, the differences between 1864 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Rabel and Bill Belichick. Of course there are many. But 1865 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,000 Speaker 1: the first question was about Thomas Brown getting an interview 1866 01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:40,800 Speaker 1: with Arizona and if that was posed to Bill, Bill 1867 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,439 Speaker 1: would be like, we're focused on this game, and Rabel says, no, 1868 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,599 Speaker 1: We're always cooperate what we want our people to get 1869 01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,400 Speaker 1: these opportunities, and we're always helpful, you know, so. 1870 01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 3: Like it'll be interesting to see not just head coaches, 1871 01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:59,400 Speaker 3: but if people are looking at some members of the 1872 01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,559 Speaker 3: Patriots staff in general because they've had such a great year. 1873 01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:04,080 Speaker 2: Yep. 1874 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,479 Speaker 3: They obviously have an interesting situation on defense with Terrell 1875 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 3: Williams dealing with you know, his health problems, a guy 1876 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 3: like Zach Krer, it would be you know, maybe on 1877 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,160 Speaker 3: someone's radar for a defensive coordinator. You know, I don't 1878 01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,720 Speaker 3: know necessarily if that would be you know, something that 1879 01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,240 Speaker 3: he'd be you know, Core would be interested, they would 1880 01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 3: get permission, all that kind of stuff. But these are 1881 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 3: the kind of things that happen to teams when when 1882 01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,000 Speaker 3: they're good playoff teams and the kind of listen. 1883 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, you'd be like, why would they want to leave? 1884 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,679 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, especially if the pages make a deep run. 1885 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,719 Speaker 1: You got to if you're a person in the NFL, 1886 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,720 Speaker 1: you got a family, whatever, you got to strike while 1887 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 1: the iron's hot. 1888 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 3: So you know, in that particular case that that I 1889 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,880 Speaker 3: just brought up, And if that's a complete hypothetical, I 1890 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,200 Speaker 3: have not heard any noise about that at all. But 1891 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:56,600 Speaker 3: if Terrell Williams comes back, you know, and let's face it, 1892 01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,439 Speaker 3: we all hope he does, he's you know, stronger and 1893 01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,479 Speaker 3: healthier than ever. That's what everybody's hoping for. If he 1894 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 3: comes back and is the defensive coordinator next year. If 1895 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 3: you're Zach Khorr and you go back, well, now I'm 1896 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,680 Speaker 3: not the coordinator anymore, and someone wants me to be 1897 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,680 Speaker 3: their coordinator, right right, Why wouldn't. 1898 01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,679 Speaker 1: You conside I may not get that opportunity next year. 1899 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,160 Speaker 1: So I don't blame any of these guys, just as 1900 01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't blame free agents for changing teams or coaches 1901 01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: for that matter. 1902 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,799 Speaker 3: And we've talked a lot about they have a handful 1903 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 3: of former head coaches on staff. You know, Thomas Brown 1904 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:28,800 Speaker 3: is one of them. He was an interim coach for 1905 01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:32,280 Speaker 3: the Bears. You know, Doug Moron. Todd Downing has been 1906 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 3: an offensive coordinator elsewhere, Josh McDaniel's former head coach elsewhere. 1907 01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:38,800 Speaker 3: I think there's going to be interest in some of 1908 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 3: these guys. Yeah, these are again, these are the problems 1909 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 3: that good teams face. 1910 01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, eight five to five past five hundred. 1911 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,679 Speaker 1: Let's get back to the phones. Todd's and Gardner. What's up, Todd? 1912 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,400 Speaker 7: I just want to thank you guys for the journey. 1913 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:54,160 Speaker 7: You know, when to start in the preseason and. 1914 01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Don't stop believing. 1915 01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, we have we have some concerns with Hollins or 1916 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,720 Speaker 7: Williams Daber. We weren't sure what we're going to get 1917 01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,880 Speaker 7: and I just want at that time was looking to say, hey, 1918 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,639 Speaker 7: I don't want to be in the basement in the AFC. 1919 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:11,000 Speaker 7: That was my goal for the year, and with everything 1920 01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 7: that's happened, I think I actually will be disappointed if 1921 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:16,040 Speaker 7: we don't win this game. So that's how far we progressed. 1922 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,920 Speaker 7: And you guys got us there like you guys took 1923 01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 7: us through this whole journey, and we went there together 1924 01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 7: with the ups and downs, and I really appreciate it, 1925 01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 7: But I wonder how far have you felt that you 1926 01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,600 Speaker 7: progressed from where you started, say, preseason treating camp, and 1927 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,200 Speaker 7: where you got to now? 1928 01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,000 Speaker 1: All right, guys, okay, thanks. I mean for me, it's 1929 01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:38,639 Speaker 1: you know, it's come. I've you know, I didn't think 1930 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,040 Speaker 1: they would do this in the beginning of the season. 1931 01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,840 Speaker 1: So how far have I come? I've come to now 1932 01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 1: thinking we're going to beat the San Diego Charges in 1933 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,719 Speaker 1: the wildcard round of the playoffs. Yeah, I mean that's 1934 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 1: I would agree. Who'd have thunk? 1935 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,600 Speaker 3: And you know, I think Todd said you would have 1936 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,720 Speaker 3: been happy just not to finish last, and that's what 1937 01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 3: I was thinking. I figured they'd finish third. I thought 1938 01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:02,040 Speaker 3: they would be of the jets behind my second in 1939 01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,760 Speaker 3: the I'm on record saying you did. You did, and 1940 01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,160 Speaker 3: you were a little bit more optimistic than I was. 1941 01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,120 Speaker 3: But I mean, I felt, you know, somewhere, you know, 1942 01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:15,920 Speaker 3: six seven, eight wins was was definitely reasonable, and I 1943 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 3: felt like there were and there were a lot. It 1944 01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:19,840 Speaker 3: wasn't just one or two people. There were there were 1945 01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:23,000 Speaker 3: a handful of people in the local media here that 1946 01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:28,400 Speaker 3: were predicting ten eleven, twelve, one had thirteen, and I 1947 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,840 Speaker 3: will be the first one to admit I laughed at 1948 01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:33,920 Speaker 3: at something. You know, you know, ten. Okay, if everything 1949 01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,320 Speaker 3: goes perfectly and Drake May is really good, yeah ten, 1950 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,160 Speaker 3: I thought ten was the ceiling. But yeah, thirteen I 1951 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 3: thought was outrageous and they ended up winning fourteen. So 1952 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:44,560 Speaker 3: that's how far my mind, right. 1953 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah? How about uh, George and Kansas? What's up? George, George, George, George, 1954 01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,519 Speaker 1: George of the Jungle. Remember that cartoon George Georgie? Are 1955 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:04,640 Speaker 1: you there, George George? All right, George is gone? Kansas. 1956 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:11,919 Speaker 1: Oh there's another person from Kansas, Daniels in Kansas. What's up, Daniel, Hey, guys, 1957 01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,320 Speaker 1: what's up on? What's happening? 1958 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,720 Speaker 7: Shut you guys out, Thank you very much. Just that 1959 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,840 Speaker 7: work here only Patriots fan in a like one hundred 1960 01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,479 Speaker 7: mile radius here in the middle of nowhere, Kansas. Just 1961 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,519 Speaker 7: a quick one for you, guys. Do you think Hunter 1962 01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,680 Speaker 7: Henry is excited for this weekend? And do you think 1963 01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,080 Speaker 7: he'll have a big game considering the Charger struggled against 1964 01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,160 Speaker 7: some sight ends this season? 1965 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 1: All right, thanks, Daniel. 1966 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,960 Speaker 3: I do think Henry's been a pretty important guy for 1967 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:44,599 Speaker 3: Drake May all season long. He's been pretty consistent and 1968 01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:48,200 Speaker 3: I expect that to continue. You know, Evan sort of 1969 01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,639 Speaker 3: felt like Diggs and Henry would be the focal point 1970 01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,599 Speaker 3: for Jesse Minter and the Chargers defense. But I think 1971 01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,200 Speaker 3: that's what's one thing to say, we got to take 1972 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:57,840 Speaker 3: these guys out. I'm not sure they're going to be 1973 01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,160 Speaker 3: able to do that. I would expect Henry to have of, 1974 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:01,920 Speaker 3: you know, an impact on the game. 1975 01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:08,240 Speaker 1: But as Evan said, he's he thinks that the Charges 1976 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,680 Speaker 1: will have a plan for dayson Henry, right, And why 1977 01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:11,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't they? 1978 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:11,639 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1979 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,240 Speaker 3: No, I mean, those are the two guys that you 1980 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:14,920 Speaker 3: would worry about at the top of the list. I 1981 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,160 Speaker 3: just feel like they're also at the top of that 1982 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:18,000 Speaker 3: list for a reason. 1983 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Ted says, and he's in Vegas. The Patriots 1984 01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,400 Speaker 1: have the worst strength of schedule three ninety one, and 1985 01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,400 Speaker 1: Denver has the second worst strength of schedule for twenty two. 1986 01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,360 Speaker 1: But I never hear people complain about Denver's easy schedule. 1987 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:35,760 Speaker 3: And you don't listen high. 1988 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,800 Speaker 1: I only hear people complain about the Patriots schedule. Why 1989 01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:39,920 Speaker 1: does Denver get a pass? 1990 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 3: You're not listening hard enough. There's a lot of people 1991 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 3: that are questioned both of those teams there being paper 1992 01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,400 Speaker 3: Tigers are fourteen wins. 1993 01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:47,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, a matter of. 1994 01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,880 Speaker 3: Fact, around here, if you listen around here, it's a 1995 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,799 Speaker 3: complete dismissal of Denver because they played so many close games. 1996 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:55,680 Speaker 3: I think they have eleven to one score wins or 1997 01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:56,160 Speaker 3: something like that. 1998 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,400 Speaker 1: The dismissal I hear of Denver around here is because 1999 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,920 Speaker 1: of bo Nicks. But I think he's pretty good. 2000 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,400 Speaker 3: I just don't think he plays anywhere near the caliber 2001 01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:05,040 Speaker 3: that makes no. 2002 01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,960 Speaker 1: But like I think in crunch time, he's got some sand. 2003 01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,000 Speaker 3: He's been good when he's had to be, but he's 2004 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,919 Speaker 3: not very consistent, and I think in a playoff scenario 2005 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:16,600 Speaker 3: you end up not being good for the balance of 2006 01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:17,799 Speaker 3: the game and there's no game. 2007 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,840 Speaker 1: To come back for, right, But he's got some sand 2008 01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:20,000 Speaker 1: in it. 2009 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of criticism for the for the 2010 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,759 Speaker 3: other teams. The Patriots have not just the worst schedule 2011 01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,000 Speaker 3: this year, it's historically the weakest schedule since they really 2012 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:29,960 Speaker 3: been tracking this stuff. 2013 01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,719 Speaker 1: Chris in New Hampshire has a question how many wins 2014 01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,960 Speaker 1: constitutes a playoff run and does the number depend on 2015 01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:39,920 Speaker 1: whether or not the team hosts the game. Can a 2016 01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 1: wildcard team win less games but still be on a run? Also, 2017 01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:48,920 Speaker 1: to get more into the Semantico minute, what constitutes a 2018 01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,759 Speaker 1: team having a little bit of a playoff run? Hopefully 2019 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 1: the spark's an argument. I think one game would be 2020 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,599 Speaker 1: a playoff run. Right, you win a game and then 2021 01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:58,360 Speaker 1: you're on a run. 2022 01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:00,960 Speaker 3: So is he yeah, you can't make a play you 2023 01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:02,440 Speaker 3: made a run to the playoffs? 2024 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh right, that's right. 2025 01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,439 Speaker 3: And if you lose the first game, you didn't make 2026 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:07,120 Speaker 3: a playoff run. 2027 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah right. I think he's talking about once you. 2028 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:10,519 Speaker 3: Get in there, Once you get in I think you 2029 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:11,160 Speaker 3: have to win a game. 2030 01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah? Is that yeah? 2031 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:14,719 Speaker 3: Okay, So he's no argument. 2032 01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:17,479 Speaker 1: He's wondering, That's what I'm saying. But he's wondering if 2033 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,120 Speaker 1: so for some people that doesn't constitute a run. You 2034 01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,479 Speaker 1: have to win two or more? 2035 01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:24,960 Speaker 3: No, I think you you win a game, you made 2036 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 3: a run. 2037 01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. There's only four games total to get to the 2038 01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:28,599 Speaker 1: you know three. 2039 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,000 Speaker 3: And I think his point is is by winning a 2040 01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 3: wild card. In other words, if the Patriots losing the 2041 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:39,040 Speaker 3: division round and the Broncos losing the division round, did 2042 01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,800 Speaker 3: either one of them make a playoff run, or did 2043 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:43,479 Speaker 3: only one of them make a playoff run because the 2044 01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,600 Speaker 3: Patriots won a game and then got knocked out and 2045 01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:47,880 Speaker 3: the Broncos had the buy and got knocked out. Yeah, 2046 01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,480 Speaker 3: I mean semantics. 2047 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:55,280 Speaker 1: Eric from Amherstburg, Evan being so worried about losing sounds 2048 01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,360 Speaker 1: like you might want a writer on call if we lose. 2049 01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 1: To cover Evan, I'm thirty two, and if he's being 2050 01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:03,400 Speaker 1: worried about going one and done, it's weak mentality. 2051 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 3: Wow, well, so I'm not sure I'd like to follow 2052 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:12,840 Speaker 3: up on that email. Is it weak because you're worried 2053 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 3: about losing or week because you can't handle losing? 2054 01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:17,120 Speaker 1: I think can't handle it? 2055 01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I mean I would largely can't 2056 01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:20,400 Speaker 3: handle it. 2057 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:25,000 Speaker 1: I would largely say yeah. Jay in Minnesota says Evan 2058 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 1: can't keep doing this. I think on Wednesday and Thursdays, 2059 01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:29,800 Speaker 1: we need to move up the show an hour early. 2060 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,439 Speaker 1: Too many times we have let Evan sneak out early 2061 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 1: because he's in a great argument with Paula Fred. We 2062 01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:38,639 Speaker 1: can't keep letting Evan think he's won the argument because 2063 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:42,200 Speaker 1: he walked out. Also deuce what vibes are we looking for? 2064 01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,679 Speaker 1: In the locker room. I vote for an hour earlier 2065 01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:45,840 Speaker 1: for the show. 2066 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:50,080 Speaker 3: Well, there's another show on before us on Wednesdays from 2067 01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,360 Speaker 3: ten to twelve, right, it's called Catch twenty two. 2068 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Evan, you know. 2069 01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,120 Speaker 3: And really originally that was kind of the plan, was 2070 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,360 Speaker 3: Evan was going to do Catch twenty two and then 2071 01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,240 Speaker 3: Mike Bred and I would handle Patriots on Filter. But 2072 01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:06,960 Speaker 3: Evan can't get enough Fred, and he stays here for 2073 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:11,040 Speaker 3: another hour, yeah, and joins us for our show. Yep, 2074 01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,680 Speaker 3: there's a lot of other things going on here, Like 2075 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:16,080 Speaker 3: just that's the bottom line. 2076 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,519 Speaker 1: This isn't our main job. This is my main job. 2077 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,920 Speaker 3: This is what I love to do because Fred and 2078 01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:25,280 Speaker 3: I like we majored in arguing, in bickering. Like Jerry Madelon, 2079 01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,559 Speaker 3: our famous host loves to call us the odd couple. 2080 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,720 Speaker 3: I think it's very appropriate. But everybody, we all have 2081 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:31,839 Speaker 3: a lot of other things. 2082 01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,880 Speaker 1: To do too, Anthony writes in just a Story about 2083 01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,040 Speaker 1: being bummed out. I live in New York, as you 2084 01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,880 Speaker 1: may know. Well I didn't really, but so when the 2085 01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,479 Speaker 1: Patriots lose I hear about it. Not only does it 2086 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,080 Speaker 1: kill my mood and depress me. Every single person knows 2087 01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,599 Speaker 1: how much I love the Patriots. Afterward, they'll either give 2088 01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,679 Speaker 1: me that haha, sucks for you look, or the ah, 2089 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,640 Speaker 1: sorry about your team, kind of condescending. Look. The twenty 2090 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,400 Speaker 1: eleven Super Bowl was the worst. Some of my closest 2091 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,280 Speaker 1: friends are obviously Giants and Jets fans. I watched in 2092 01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,160 Speaker 1: a room full of Giants fans, about twenty people. I 2093 01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,360 Speaker 1: walked out immediately after the final play. That lost did 2094 01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,920 Speaker 1: something to me, and now whenever they lose, I just 2095 01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:12,759 Speaker 1: feel terrible. 2096 01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:17,240 Speaker 3: That's a little different, Like you watch the two thousand 2097 01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,799 Speaker 3: and seven Super Bowl with a room full of Giants fans. 2098 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:20,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, like that. 2099 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,680 Speaker 3: Don't you think that's a little different than just like 2100 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 3: my tea, my team lost, sure, and now I'm going 2101 01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:27,280 Speaker 3: to get you know, I mean. 2102 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like PTSD shit man. Yeah, I mean that's crazy. 2103 01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:33,160 Speaker 3: You're with the Giants fans. They they like, that's not 2104 01:37:33,240 --> 01:37:35,559 Speaker 3: like they're making fun of you. Like their team just 2105 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,280 Speaker 3: won a colossal upset in the super Bowl. Like, don't 2106 01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:40,360 Speaker 3: you think they should be happy? 2107 01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Christen Virginia. Amongst the MVP debate, here's a 2108 01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:49,280 Speaker 1: short quiz relating to MVPs in the postseason for Paul 2109 01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:53,400 Speaker 1: since two thousand, the Patriots have faced the MVP in 2110 01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:58,840 Speaker 1: the postseason eight times. The record against the MVP in 2111 01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,599 Speaker 1: postseason is seven one. Can you name the MVP who 2112 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,280 Speaker 1: was defeated by the Patriots in the following seasons? 2113 01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 2: Oh? 2114 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:09,040 Speaker 1: One, right, Three. 2115 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:14,759 Speaker 3: McNair and Manning. That's right, mvph four. I'm gonna guess 2116 01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:15,519 Speaker 3: Manning again. 2117 01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:20,200 Speaker 1: Six lt that's right. 2118 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:31,679 Speaker 3: Sixteen Matt Ryan, that's correct. Eighteen Mahomes, that's right. 2119 01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,680 Speaker 1: You got it. Finally, for a bonus point, who is 2120 01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,640 Speaker 1: the only MVP that the Patriots have lost to in 2121 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:39,400 Speaker 1: the postseason since two thousand? 2122 01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:46,439 Speaker 3: You're not gonna give me the year for that? 2123 01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:46,599 Speaker 2: One? 2124 01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:52,519 Speaker 1: Huh thirteen Manning? That's right. There you go. You can't 2125 01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,200 Speaker 1: stump the grump. 2126 01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:56,680 Speaker 3: I would I needed the years, though, I don't think 2127 01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,360 Speaker 3: I would have gotten all those like that. I needed 2128 01:38:59,400 --> 01:38:59,800 Speaker 3: the years. 2129 01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:00,679 Speaker 2: I think. 2130 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:07,040 Speaker 3: I think Mahomes he won the he won the MVP 2131 01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl in like twenty one. Maybe I 2132 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 3: don't know one of those years that the Chiefs won 2133 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:15,880 Speaker 3: and that was kind of broke a streak. 2134 01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,599 Speaker 1: I think it was the net was it nineteen? 2135 01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,880 Speaker 3: The next year, maybe it was nineteen, I don't know. 2136 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:25,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see Nick and Connecticut. After listening to calls 2137 01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:29,000 Speaker 1: and emails for the past week suggesting nicknames for Drake, 2138 01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,880 Speaker 1: I thank god the Patriots unfiltered listeners are not responsible 2139 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:34,040 Speaker 1: for creating nicknames. 2140 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,559 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a listener and listening to crime. 2141 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,360 Speaker 1: I like it. The whole thing about Nick Day. You 2142 01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,120 Speaker 1: can't create it. It just has to be organic, like 2143 01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,000 Speaker 1: it just happened, you know. 2144 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 3: It's funny. I was listening. I was watching the John 2145 01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,560 Speaker 3: Elway documentary on Netflix. Have you seen any of this? 2146 01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:51,320 Speaker 1: Fred? I know you like that way too. 2147 01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,439 Speaker 3: I watched probably like the first forty five minutes or so, 2148 01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,200 Speaker 3: and then I got sidetracked. I had to shut it off. 2149 01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,840 Speaker 3: But just like they called him the Duke, you know, 2150 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:03,559 Speaker 3: because they kind of thought he walked a little bit 2151 01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,400 Speaker 3: like John Wayne. They called him the Duke of Denver, yep, 2152 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:07,720 Speaker 3: the riflemen. 2153 01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:08,519 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2154 01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:11,800 Speaker 3: So it's like maybe there's more nicknames out there than yeah, 2155 01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:17,800 Speaker 3: And we kind of thought. 2156 01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:17,839 Speaker 1: This one came in yesterday. But I saved it because 2157 01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:19,360 Speaker 1: I do want to answer it. I don't want to 2158 01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:23,320 Speaker 1: duck it. Robert in Portland, Maine says early in the season, 2159 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,080 Speaker 1: when Andre Stevenson had fumbles in two different games. At 2160 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,479 Speaker 1: the time, the PU Crew said that the Patriots didn't 2161 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,960 Speaker 1: have a deep enough bench to take Romandre out of 2162 01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:34,479 Speaker 1: the rotation and that even if Ramandre never fumbles again 2163 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:37,200 Speaker 1: this season, the Patriots should move on from him in 2164 01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,920 Speaker 1: the offseason. Romandre only had one more fumble this season 2165 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,000 Speaker 1: and has had multiple clutch plays. As we enter the playoffs, 2166 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,960 Speaker 1: where does the PU crew now stand on Remandre. 2167 01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,160 Speaker 3: I think I might have said that they will move 2168 01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:54,120 Speaker 3: on from him, not that they should. I would not, 2169 01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,600 Speaker 3: but I am higher on ramondre Stevenson than most. I 2170 01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,040 Speaker 3: think he does a lot of different things that helped 2171 01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:05,280 Speaker 3: the team win. And I think I probably changed my 2172 01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,840 Speaker 3: viewpoint from what I had earlier in the season based 2173 01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:10,519 Speaker 3: on the way Mike Rabel has talked about him throughout 2174 01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:14,600 Speaker 3: the year. I think he's a Rabel kind of guy. Yeah, 2175 01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:16,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised. And the reason why I thought 2176 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,639 Speaker 3: they would move on from him was had almost almost 2177 01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:23,000 Speaker 3: nothing to do with the fumbles. It was about I 2178 01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:27,559 Speaker 3: feel like Mike Rabel did all he could to sort 2179 01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:31,400 Speaker 3: of move past what was already here and the ones 2180 01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,720 Speaker 3: that he didn't with the guys that had contracts that 2181 01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:38,040 Speaker 3: kind of prohibited it. It wasn't cost effective. And I'm 2182 01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:44,400 Speaker 3: thinking of guys like Mike oh Winu, Christian Barmore, Ramandre Stevenson. 2183 01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:47,000 Speaker 3: There were a handful of guys that just got extensions 2184 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:51,080 Speaker 3: from the previous regime that it wouldn't have necessarily been 2185 01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:55,519 Speaker 3: cost effective to do so, and Stevenson was one of them. 2186 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,040 Speaker 3: But I think he could be. I think he could 2187 01:41:58,040 --> 01:41:58,799 Speaker 3: be part of the future. 2188 01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,920 Speaker 1: I have to walk it back. I mean, if I 2189 01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,479 Speaker 1: remember the feeling. I don't know if I was the 2190 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,519 Speaker 1: one who said those words, but I remember the feeling 2191 01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,680 Speaker 1: like you just can't tolerate that. You just can't have 2192 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:16,439 Speaker 1: a guy out there dropping the ball. So I remember 2193 01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:19,559 Speaker 1: thinking that. But listen, that's why Mike Vrabel's a head 2194 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,040 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL and I'm not. He dealt with 2195 01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:26,880 Speaker 1: the situation perfectly, and he did, and so thank god 2196 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm not the head coach and he is. But I 2197 01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:30,400 Speaker 1: think people do forget. 2198 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:32,679 Speaker 3: And I agree with you that I thought Vrabel handled 2199 01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:38,080 Speaker 3: it really, really well. His workload was drastically reduced. 2200 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh it was, and had to be. 2201 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,280 Speaker 3: He didn't get to he didn't get benched. 2202 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:43,280 Speaker 1: That's negligence. If you can't get out. 2203 01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:47,840 Speaker 3: But I think people, I think people with you know, 2204 01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:53,320 Speaker 3: the results of the last month have rewritten history a 2205 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,519 Speaker 3: little bit like, no, nothing changed, Oh no, no, something changed. Yes, 2206 01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:01,120 Speaker 3: his workload was diminished in the immediate aftermath of those 2207 01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:06,200 Speaker 3: those tumbles, and he gradually earned the trust. I remember 2208 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,360 Speaker 3: you had Gibson back there, yes, right, Yes, that's part 2209 01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,040 Speaker 3: of where he lost some carries to and then Henderson 2210 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:15,160 Speaker 3: eventually emerged because Henderson got off to a slow start, 2211 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,080 Speaker 3: and then you know, about halfway through it was probably 2212 01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,360 Speaker 3: that Tampa game that Henderson hit a couple of big 2213 01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,120 Speaker 3: plays and was like, whoa, you know, now we got 2214 01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:27,680 Speaker 3: this explosive guy. And eventually I think Stevenson, you know, 2215 01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,000 Speaker 3: earned his way back in a circle of trust. 2216 01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,120 Speaker 1: Let's just say that Gibson got hurt in training camp 2217 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:33,639 Speaker 1: or never made it the season, or he got hurt 2218 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,880 Speaker 1: in the first game or whatever, and you only had 2219 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:39,760 Speaker 1: Henderson and Stevenson. I don't know if then in the 2220 01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,640 Speaker 1: trade deadline, if Rabel would have gone and gotten a 2221 01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 1: running back. 2222 01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:46,040 Speaker 3: So at the trade deadline Gibson had been hurt, they 2223 01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:46,840 Speaker 3: could have made a move. 2224 01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,680 Speaker 1: Then that's true, that's true. 2225 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,040 Speaker 3: But I'm just saying I want to say the last 2226 01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:55,000 Speaker 3: fumble that that Rimandre had was the Buffalo, the first 2227 01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,600 Speaker 3: Buffalo game, which is like week five, Week five, So 2228 01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:00,760 Speaker 3: there were a couple of weeks there that that he 2229 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,479 Speaker 3: didn't get as many carries as he had. 2230 01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:03,439 Speaker 1: That's true, he didn't. 2231 01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:05,840 Speaker 3: He is and then eventually, you know, like he was 2232 01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,880 Speaker 3: out there like late game pass protection situations. You know 2233 01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:12,320 Speaker 3: that that's when he got his snaps. He didn't get 2234 01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:13,960 Speaker 3: as many touches there for a couple of weeks. 2235 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:18,920 Speaker 1: It's true, Rick in Riverside, Rhode Island, it's a lot 2236 01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:23,160 Speaker 1: of ours. Like most Patriots fans, I believe we are 2237 01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,400 Speaker 1: currently playing with house money. But I think the Patriots 2238 01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,720 Speaker 1: can win it all this year. One, the run game 2239 01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,599 Speaker 1: has found its groove hitting the playoffs. Two overall team 2240 01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,799 Speaker 1: health is improving. Three the players seem bought into Rabel's 2241 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:38,200 Speaker 1: message four Drake Drake may may win loser draw. This 2242 01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:41,080 Speaker 1: has been successful. Let's hope for four more wins. 2243 01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:45,880 Speaker 3: Okay, I would largely agree with everything about that email. Yeah, 2244 01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:47,120 Speaker 3: it's a rarity for. 2245 01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:52,080 Speaker 1: Me, Joe. If the haters are right and you weren't 2246 01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,839 Speaker 1: really that good, then be happy you got a fun season, 2247 01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:57,920 Speaker 1: and you probably shouldn't have full's gold is the only 2248 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,040 Speaker 1: is only a bad thing if you don't believe that 2249 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,680 Speaker 1: you have gold. I largely agree with that too. That's 2250 01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,640 Speaker 1: a good way of looking at it too. If you 2251 01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 1: really don't think you're that good, then it's all gravy. 2252 01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,559 Speaker 3: But you also, I would look at it as, you know, 2253 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:15,760 Speaker 3: again from completely from the team perspective, maybe I'm not 2254 01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,639 Speaker 3: that good this year, but I'm only going to get better. 2255 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:20,280 Speaker 3: That's the way you look at it as a fan. 2256 01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,400 Speaker 3: Imagine what we're going to do next year. Now, I 2257 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,080 Speaker 3: would be disappointed because I think this is an opportunity 2258 01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:27,240 Speaker 3: because I don't look at the teams in the AFC 2259 01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:30,799 Speaker 3: as being better than the Patriots next year. The Patriots 2260 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:33,320 Speaker 3: could very well be better than they are now, but 2261 01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,800 Speaker 3: they might be two teams that are have reloaded and 2262 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,479 Speaker 3: better than you. Yeah, and it'll be that much harder 2263 01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:41,240 Speaker 3: to make a run, you know what I mean. But 2264 01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,160 Speaker 3: I would look at it as, yeah, maybe maybe we're 2265 01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:47,600 Speaker 3: not quite as good as our record this year, but 2266 01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:50,040 Speaker 3: Drake may is going to be better. You might get 2267 01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,960 Speaker 3: another weapon to work with on the outside. Maybe Kyle 2268 01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,680 Speaker 3: Williams becomes a really dangerous guy next year for him 2269 01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,200 Speaker 3: after you know, a slow rookie year, I think you 2270 01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:02,120 Speaker 3: only caught ten pass all season. Maybe next year he's 2271 01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,080 Speaker 3: a guy who catches seventy passes for you when you 2272 01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:08,000 Speaker 3: have become a dangerous offense all over again. So this 2273 01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:10,800 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot to be excited about in 2274 01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:12,240 Speaker 3: the future, not just now. 2275 01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:19,040 Speaker 1: Max in Atlanta. My post vote MVP take Drake May 2276 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,799 Speaker 1: is the MVP, and unless voters accidentally watch the games, 2277 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,439 Speaker 1: he probably won't win it. At this point, MVP voting 2278 01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:30,639 Speaker 1: feels like sort by touchdowns than closed spreadsheet. For example, 2279 01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,760 Speaker 1: the other two most efficient seasons in my opinion are 2280 01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,719 Speaker 1: Breeze in eighteen and Golf in twenty four and eighteen. 2281 01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,800 Speaker 1: Breeze at seventy four percent, four thousand yards thirty six 2282 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,160 Speaker 1: touchdowns lost to Mahomes who had five thousand yards and 2283 01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,200 Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns twenty four. 2284 01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, which one of those two you think is better? 2285 01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:52,639 Speaker 1: I think Mahomes probably a loss. 2286 01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:53,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, go ahead. 2287 01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:58,360 Speaker 1: Twenty four Goff at seventy two percent, forty seven hundred 2288 01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,400 Speaker 1: yards about and thirty seven tds lost to Josh Allen, 2289 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 1: who had four point two thousand yards in forty seven tds. Again, 2290 01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know last year. 2291 01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:14,600 Speaker 3: Last year, well, Josh Jared Goff wasn't really even in consideration. 2292 01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,479 Speaker 3: It was Lamar Jackson last year who had vastly better numbers. 2293 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,760 Speaker 3: So if they were just painting by touchdown numbers, Lamar 2294 01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:20,519 Speaker 3: Jackson would have won. 2295 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:23,280 Speaker 1: On last year. May has been more efficient, more consistent 2296 01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:27,799 Speaker 1: ADS rushing, which should matter, but history says it probably didn't. 2297 01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:33,320 Speaker 1: Feels like another year where voters rewarded stat Padford and 2298 01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:34,040 Speaker 1: called it a day. 2299 01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:36,719 Speaker 3: See that's oh, that's got good. 2300 01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:37,400 Speaker 4: I like that. 2301 01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:39,559 Speaker 3: Evan just said that stat Padford. 2302 01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:41,040 Speaker 1: Yes, oh I didn't. I didn't hear him. 2303 01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:43,479 Speaker 3: Oh that was in the whole one yard touchdown past 2304 01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:45,960 Speaker 3: ran So like those don't count, you know, like the 2305 01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,759 Speaker 3: touchdown on fourth and goal in Tampa Bay, the digs, 2306 01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 3: that doesn't count. It was a one yard touchdown. See 2307 01:47:51,240 --> 01:47:53,439 Speaker 3: here's the thing, though, you don't count. Isn't this You 2308 01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:54,160 Speaker 3: can't say that. 2309 01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:56,639 Speaker 1: The one yard touchdowns don't count and then say, oh, 2310 01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots have trouble in the red zone. Well that's 2311 01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,519 Speaker 1: where you have one touchdown passes in the red zone. 2312 01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:05,680 Speaker 3: That's a great point. That's a great point, you. 2313 01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:12,040 Speaker 1: Know, like, yeah, so listen, I think Drake May should 2314 01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:12,760 Speaker 1: be MVP. Two. 2315 01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,360 Speaker 3: I think you should be MVP. He would get my vote. 2316 01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:19,920 Speaker 3: I don't have one. Unfortunately, I just don't look at 2317 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:25,400 Speaker 3: this as not being close the way so many Patriots 2318 01:48:25,439 --> 01:48:26,280 Speaker 3: fans have tried to. 2319 01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,519 Speaker 1: Ben in Manhattan, says Paul. Dismissed the notion that the 2320 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,559 Speaker 1: difference in quarterbacking between May and Stafford is significant enough 2321 01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:36,920 Speaker 1: to impact the team's record this year. I would argue 2322 01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:40,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots have won against the Raiders Week one or 2323 01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:43,519 Speaker 1: the Steels Week three with Stafford, but I can't imagine 2324 01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,960 Speaker 1: Stafford would have been able to pull off the game 2325 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:49,160 Speaker 1: against the Bills in Week five. May didn't account for 2326 01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:52,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown in the stat sheet, but this was undoubtedly 2327 01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,240 Speaker 1: a game that was razor thin and required pure athleticism 2328 01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:59,439 Speaker 1: to evade constant pressure for both underneath completions and deep balls. Great, 2329 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,000 Speaker 1: this game wasn't won by McDaniels, but by the freakish 2330 01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,800 Speaker 1: athleticism and aggressiveness of May in the second half. So 2331 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:09,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you this is so funny. 2332 01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:13,479 Speaker 3: It's almost like this that email was listening to Mike 2333 01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:17,040 Speaker 3: Dusseau and I, oh, yeah, you know, about nine o'clock 2334 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,760 Speaker 3: this morning, I was talking about the different thing. I 2335 01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,160 Speaker 3: was like, you know how like these random things pop 2336 01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:23,599 Speaker 3: back in the minad. I go, you know, like that 2337 01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:25,640 Speaker 3: guy yesterday that was claiming that I was saying that 2338 01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,439 Speaker 3: Drake May didn't win any games, couldn't have been further 2339 01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:31,320 Speaker 3: from the truth. Oh it was the way he said 2340 01:49:31,320 --> 01:49:33,240 Speaker 3: that was what kind of rankled me. Not that he 2341 01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,439 Speaker 3: disagreed that they would have had the same record or not, 2342 01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,519 Speaker 3: but I think you could make a strong argument that 2343 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,679 Speaker 3: if they had Stafford they might have gone sixteen and one. 2344 01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:44,360 Speaker 3: Because I don't I agree with the email, and I 2345 01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,200 Speaker 3: don't see them losing to the Raiders or the Steelers. Now, 2346 01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:50,280 Speaker 3: I just say fourteen and three because Stafford lost to 2347 01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:54,000 Speaker 3: some bad teams. Stafford lost to Carolina, Stafford lost to Atlanta. 2348 01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,280 Speaker 3: Like they lost to some bad teams. It happens like 2349 01:49:56,320 --> 01:50:00,160 Speaker 3: you can have a you know, a subpar game that 2350 01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:05,040 Speaker 3: was actually I said, this is all sort of flawed 2351 01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,920 Speaker 3: because you don't the game isn't the same. But the 2352 01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,320 Speaker 3: Buffalo game, which is exactly the game I brought up 2353 01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:14,720 Speaker 3: to Douce I said, Stafford doesn't win doing that right, 2354 01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,960 Speaker 3: doing what Drake May had to do in the second 2355 01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:20,559 Speaker 3: half in Buffalo with some of those plays. Stafford's not 2356 01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,559 Speaker 3: capable of making those plays anymore. Now, maybe he wouldn't 2357 01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:28,680 Speaker 3: have had to. Who knows, But I would say, just 2358 01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:33,600 Speaker 3: on the surface, if you had a really good quarterback, 2359 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,519 Speaker 3: you were going to win fourteen games with that schedule. 2360 01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:39,839 Speaker 3: I think Mahomes would have won fourteen games with that schedule. 2361 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:43,400 Speaker 3: I think Josh Allen would have won fourteen games, you know, 2362 01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:47,720 Speaker 3: if he was playing for the Patriots this year. I 2363 01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:50,559 Speaker 3: don't think that's disrespectful. But if you want to tell 2364 01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:54,080 Speaker 3: me Jacoby Brissett would have won fourteen games, no chance 2365 01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:56,960 Speaker 3: they would not have been over five hundred with Zakoby 2366 01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,360 Speaker 3: Brissett playing quarterback. Again, I think you don't just like 2367 01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,920 Speaker 3: plug in any stiff. I'm asking the guy who's going 2368 01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,280 Speaker 3: to finish second in the MVP voting to Drake May, 2369 01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:07,759 Speaker 3: what would he have done with the Patriots? 2370 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:12,920 Speaker 1: The only the only thing I would say is with 2371 01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:18,680 Speaker 1: the talent around him, would a quarterback who doesn't have 2372 01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:22,040 Speaker 1: the mobility of May been able to do what to 2373 01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:24,240 Speaker 1: win those games? I think he would have because so 2374 01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:28,040 Speaker 1: often even in games that against these lesser teams. May 2375 01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,519 Speaker 1: had to run around No, I know, but did he 2376 01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,080 Speaker 1: have to or did he I think he had to? 2377 01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:35,840 Speaker 3: I don't, Okay, I think that that's the way he 2378 01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,719 Speaker 3: likes to play. I think that some of the sacks 2379 01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:41,679 Speaker 3: that he took, I don't think. I don't think Stafford 2380 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,439 Speaker 3: would have been sacked nearly as many times as May, 2381 01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:46,360 Speaker 3: all right, because he wouldn't have He wouldn't be holding 2382 01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,800 Speaker 3: the ball looking to extend plays like that. Now, he 2383 01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:52,719 Speaker 3: probably would have sacrificed some big plays that May made, 2384 01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:54,440 Speaker 3: but he may have gotten. 2385 01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:56,880 Speaker 4: From the locker room. 2386 01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:59,560 Speaker 20: What was the mood where the player's friendly to that 2387 01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:00,679 Speaker 20: none will look. 2388 01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,880 Speaker 1: Like Devin Henry And like, what was it like in 2389 01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,320 Speaker 1: the lock. 2390 01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:09,679 Speaker 2: Well? 2391 01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,960 Speaker 1: It was busy to live up to your expectations. No, 2392 01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:14,559 Speaker 1: it was, it was it was tough. 2393 01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:17,960 Speaker 6: We went right into Stefan Diggs biggest scrumb I scene, 2394 01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:19,280 Speaker 6: and then it was literally like we got out of 2395 01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:22,880 Speaker 6: digs and then Campbell was already like completely insulated by 2396 01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:25,320 Speaker 6: like five layers of cameras, so I couldn't even get 2397 01:52:25,320 --> 01:52:25,920 Speaker 6: in on him. 2398 01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:26,679 Speaker 11: Uh. 2399 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,080 Speaker 6: You know, we also heard from Robert Splaine talk to him, 2400 01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:32,400 Speaker 6: and we talked to Christian Zalez so start with Spulaine 2401 01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:36,840 Speaker 6: targeting this week to come back and feels good and uh, 2402 01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,320 Speaker 6: you know, seemed really excited, ready to lead this. 2403 01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:40,679 Speaker 1: He's ready to look he's back. 2404 01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,280 Speaker 6: And ready to lead them because I forgot he said 2405 01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,120 Speaker 6: he had two playoff games before. I'm guessing one was 2406 01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:48,840 Speaker 6: with Pittsburgh. But he just said a lot of talking 2407 01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:50,800 Speaker 6: lock room two just about the young guys and there's 2408 01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:53,160 Speaker 6: a lot of guys this would be their first chance 2409 01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,280 Speaker 6: to play, and you know, he just said, let's go 2410 01:52:55,280 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 6: out there and let it rip. So they all seem excited. Diggs, 2411 01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:02,200 Speaker 6: you know, continues to just calm, cool presence and saying 2412 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:03,800 Speaker 6: little talking a little about we all we got, we 2413 01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:05,519 Speaker 6: all we need, and that's kind of become the mantra 2414 01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,760 Speaker 6: now for the playoffs. So it's it was a lot 2415 01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,320 Speaker 6: of energy in the locker room and just from the players, 2416 01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:13,400 Speaker 6: it seems like they're, uh, they're just really excited to 2417 01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:15,760 Speaker 6: host a game at home and to get the crowd going. 2418 01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:17,960 Speaker 6: They were all talking about how excited they were to 2419 01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:20,960 Speaker 6: have the fans, a lot of national people, a lot 2420 01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,960 Speaker 6: of really I didn't recognize it. Nobody, nobody, I noted, nobody, 2421 01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,360 Speaker 6: like a little soupal or anything like that. Nobody that 2422 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:28,960 Speaker 6: I recognized, but the NBC people yet, No, not that 2423 01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:30,400 Speaker 6: I've seen. But there were just you know a lot 2424 01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:33,160 Speaker 6: of new faces. Uh, and the other Terrell Williams, the 2425 01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:37,360 Speaker 6: defensive coordinator, walked through as well through and he's. 2426 01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:37,120 Speaker 2: Look at it. 2427 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:38,160 Speaker 1: Look fine. 2428 01:53:38,240 --> 01:53:40,160 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, he wasn't moving too fast, like 2429 01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:43,280 Speaker 6: he doesn't really. He kind of kind of ambles, but 2430 01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,320 Speaker 6: good to see him there. He kind of took note 2431 01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,439 Speaker 6: of Will Campbell being surrounded by all the cameras. 2432 01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:50,280 Speaker 1: I remember there was a day when your rookie lineman 2433 01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:53,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to the media. All the talking was done 2434 01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:54,800 Speaker 1: by you know. 2435 01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:58,160 Speaker 3: Rookies in general. Yeah, no, check didn't a lot of 2436 01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:59,120 Speaker 3: a lot of rookies know. 2437 01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,920 Speaker 6: And then we'll he's been pretty much every week. 2438 01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,439 Speaker 1: He's a spokesman. Yeah. He does really good good at 2439 01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:04,680 Speaker 1: it too. 2440 01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,240 Speaker 6: I mean he's just he's got a short can be 2441 01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 6: my favorite player. 2442 01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2443 01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,920 Speaker 6: He doesn't get himself in trouble trying to overtalk or 2444 01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:13,040 Speaker 6: over explain things. He just you know a little smile, 2445 01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,320 Speaker 6: a little southern drawl and says what he says. 2446 01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,800 Speaker 1: But but now I want a shopping spree. With him 2447 01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:21,720 Speaker 1: at basketball, you'd be excited, a good way to go 2448 01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:22,439 Speaker 1: about business. 2449 01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,800 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, so so good vibes and uh yeah, just 2450 01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:27,080 Speaker 6: a little bit of it. You can just feel the 2451 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:31,200 Speaker 6: energy kind of up, a little bit of uptick in 2452 01:54:31,240 --> 01:54:32,000 Speaker 6: terms of the vibes. 2453 01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,080 Speaker 1: And now would you say the energy is that the 2454 01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 1: energy from the media or the players. Well, that's a 2455 01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:37,320 Speaker 1: good question. 2456 01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,760 Speaker 6: Fred I would say probably generated more from the media 2457 01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:41,760 Speaker 6: right now, where it feels like the players are kind 2458 01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:42,560 Speaker 6: of like. 2459 01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:47,120 Speaker 22: Yeah, well, Dig's well Dig specifically, you know, Dick specifically said, 2460 01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:48,920 Speaker 22: you know, he's when you guys talk to me on Wednesday, 2461 01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,040 Speaker 22: this is I kind of try to keep it calm 2462 01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,120 Speaker 22: during these days and you know then game day I 2463 01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:55,680 Speaker 22: let it rip and let it all out, so, you know, 2464 01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:59,000 Speaker 22: a little reserve, but you could just tell they're holding 2465 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:00,920 Speaker 22: it back a little bit and there's just you know, 2466 01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,520 Speaker 22: there's there's an urgency now that I would say kind 2467 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:07,760 Speaker 22: of hovers over everything, Okay, Evan Evan, I mean in 2468 01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:09,600 Speaker 22: the scrums, I mean I I it was hard to 2469 01:55:09,680 --> 01:55:13,280 Speaker 22: because there's so much Trald No. 2470 01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:14,320 Speaker 1: I think he held his own. 2471 01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:16,200 Speaker 6: Bart was there to protect him as well, So the 2472 01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:17,440 Speaker 6: two of them banded together. 2473 01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:23,800 Speaker 1: But anybody, did you have to fight anybody? 2474 01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:29,280 Speaker 6: No, no, Lazar fights, but everybody. Everybody's there, all hands 2475 01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:29,880 Speaker 6: on deck today. 2476 01:55:29,920 --> 01:55:32,920 Speaker 1: So I wonder how many of the people that are 2477 01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:38,000 Speaker 1: bothering Evan on the various social platforms are actually people 2478 01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:40,320 Speaker 1: in the media going under home, And I hope that 2479 01:55:40,320 --> 01:55:40,960 Speaker 1: would be great. 2480 01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:43,080 Speaker 6: Like Barth has a burner that he just trolls Evan 2481 01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,160 Speaker 6: constantly with, right, that would make sense to me. 2482 01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh so, so good stuff, Yeah, good stuff for sure. 2483 01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:51,360 Speaker 6: You know, I cut out just ten minutes early so 2484 01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:52,880 Speaker 6: I could come back in and share. So I'm sure 2485 01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,440 Speaker 6: there'll probably be another scrum or two in there. 2486 01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:58,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, ready to go. Robert splane Landry around you 2487 01:55:58,480 --> 01:55:58,880 Speaker 1: see him? 2488 01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:04,200 Speaker 6: Not see Landry Tonga, did not see Tonga? Okay, But like, 2489 01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:05,920 Speaker 6: like I know, Mike, name some of the guys that 2490 01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:08,000 Speaker 6: sorry brabes that are sick. 2491 01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:11,240 Speaker 1: Uh so, maybe they were with them a lot of 2492 01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:13,440 Speaker 1: part of the media. You have to call them rabes. Okay, 2493 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,000 Speaker 1: thank you. But again, I'm kind of buried in the scrum. 2494 01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,000 Speaker 6: So guys are walking through all the time, so it's 2495 01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,120 Speaker 6: very possible they walked through and I didn't see them. 2496 01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,160 Speaker 6: But I did not see them. 2497 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,280 Speaker 1: Okay, a lot of cameras, a lot of cameras. I mean, 2498 01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:26,800 Speaker 1: it's a fight, playoff time, Freddy. 2499 01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:28,760 Speaker 6: I thought that because like my arm got kind of 2500 01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,520 Speaker 6: like sandwich between a girl and a camera, and I 2501 01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:33,960 Speaker 6: was like, I'm gonna precarious get hot here right now. 2502 01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,400 Speaker 6: I was very worried about where my hr I was. 2503 01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:39,680 Speaker 6: I was very concerned about that, and then I saw 2504 01:56:39,720 --> 01:56:41,960 Speaker 6: my opportunity. I had to remove my arm from that 2505 01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,440 Speaker 6: position because it was I think it's funny if like 2506 01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:48,440 Speaker 6: a media person went down and like you know, Vrabel 2507 01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:49,760 Speaker 6: came out and put hands on them. 2508 01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,920 Speaker 1: Rise my son, go forth. By the way, I meant 2509 01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:57,360 Speaker 1: to tell you, I was on one O nine and 2510 01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,880 Speaker 1: at your memorial somebody put a wreath made up toilet. 2511 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:02,080 Speaker 1: I thought that was. 2512 01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:05,120 Speaker 3: Really for the holidays when you're doing this just driving 2513 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:08,320 Speaker 3: by there it is. It was off of that. 2514 01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:12,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, that's gonna be it for this 2515 01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:16,640 Speaker 1: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back tomorrow, Big Day 2516 01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:22,240 Speaker 1: with Picks with Picks playoffs. Won the regular season and 2517 01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:25,840 Speaker 1: we'll move into the playoffs, so we'll just let it go. 2518 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:27,440 Speaker 1: We don't need to announce it. 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