1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Cleverty, my peace, what did you think of that horrendous play? 2 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Oh, my dear lord, Earl of Sandwich. I must tell 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: you that Shakespeare he is long in the tooth occasionally, 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: But my goodness, for this one Romeo and Juliet dastardly, dastardly. 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if it wasn't for that fine Jane Bartholemew 6 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: who's playing Juliet, who has the finest buzzard the side 7 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: of London. 8 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 2: I do agree Jane is well carriaged, but the acting 9 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: it needs several more years. 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Oh lord, look at those semens starving. I would give 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: them fivepence, but I have to spend it on air, 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: and I gave my wife, the bitch, the rest of 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: my money. You know I need an ale. 14 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm quite thirsty. Misself piece looks, Oh there she is. 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Her bosom is even better off stage, so plumped, so rosy, 16 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: so milky darth. 17 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: How it remind me of a winter pheasant gussied up 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: and inflate it. 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: H miss, oh mock lady of the theater. Would you 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: care to join me and my dear dear fellow peeps 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: into our coach. We are going for an ale? Well, 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I suppose the girl just. 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: Get quite famished from being on stage all night. Dear, 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: good old of Sandwich. 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: So it's an evening, then come with us. 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 2: Oh, I suppose I'm to be sandwiched between the Earl 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: and his vassal. 28 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Ah, here's a coach when we are going to the 29 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: White Stylow Tavern down codswell Way. 30 00:01:51,800 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: Tell you, sir, everybody in close the door. Oh this 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: birth On that performance was quite wresting. 32 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. 33 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: I learned to read old Body a year ago, and 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: I've been studying the Royal Shakespeare Theater and father told 35 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: me I would be a street urch and no, I said, 36 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: I'm an actress. I'm a lady of the theater. 37 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh yes, well, very respectful. 38 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: There. 39 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: Would you like to see my new pocket watch, my 40 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: good lady. 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I've never seen a pocket watch before. 42 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: Now look at this and see the hands how they 43 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: move around? You know? 44 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: Actually, Lady birth On On, you I actually have an 45 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: even older pocket watch if you would like to see. Oh, 46 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: I can't reach into my leggings. Would you mind getting 47 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: it out for me? Yes? 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: Oh, dear, that's not. 49 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: A pocket watch you're feeling. Oh my goodness, the clock 50 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: is Striking twelve. 51 00:02:59,320 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: How it ticks? 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: How it ticks me? Lord? 53 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends. 54 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: You've filthy horse, your husband's gone, and you've got books 55 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 2: and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books, 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: it's gossip. I'm sure it's memoir. It's Martinis. 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: Celebrity Poop Club. Read it while it's hot. 58 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 2: Celebrity poop Club. Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. 59 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: No boys are a loud cleto say it loud and 60 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: cloud Celebrity book Club. Buzz me in, I brought the 61 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: queer voe Hellllo best friend, How darphin go merrily, merrily merrily? 62 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: It goes quite well for me. How does it go 63 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: for you? 64 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: Um? 65 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: Well, I've and better. I have seven boils on me face. 66 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: I can tell that doesn't look good. Have you tried beef? 67 00:03:58,960 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Come? 68 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: Hey? Really good to see you, really good to see you. 69 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Just sorry to all. It's about to get pretty like 70 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: ce List and like this episode, like. 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 2: Se is generous about to deal theater, girl up in here. 72 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Big sweatshirts. This is hades Town, like Laptop stan Ley's Yeah, 73 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: no before like getting into the book, let's just here 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: we are to I heard office. 75 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: I just walked by a guy's desk and he had 76 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: like a massive bottle of no sugar hazelnut syrup on 77 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: the desk. 78 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: Like coffee mate or syrup. 79 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: Like straight up syrup that like Starbucks would have like 80 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: in the back. Oh my, that I think he's just 81 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: like pouring into his coffee throughout the day. Well, like 82 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: to do constant even more. 83 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Because then you're watching yourself use it throughout. 84 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, this year's supply of hazelnut syrup looks like the 85 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:01,679 Speaker 2: bottle is about half spent. 86 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: Also speaking of indulgent man. 87 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: You guys, we took a journey this week, wild, an 88 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: absolutely wild journey. I am so glad we read this book. 89 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: As we said to each other, I actually do wish 90 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: like I had more time with it. 91 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: I mean I could keep reading this book for like 92 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: another month and like go back and like do it 93 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: over again and get even more because like. 94 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: And like a fine difference. There's so much. 95 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: Every age is so rich. 96 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: So full, so rich of history. It's been called one 97 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: of the best bedside books I think ever written. Oh 98 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: it's so bad side because you just pick it up 99 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: and you're like, here we go and you read an entry. 100 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, who can we. 101 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: Be talking about one of the most famous diary of 102 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: all time, right up there with. 103 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: And Frank Elizabeth Gilbert. 104 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: And honestly way more interesting than a Frank Frankly and 105 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: you know, much like our last book we read gd 106 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: it's famous for writing book, which is cool. Although you 107 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: are he may know him from his work as an 108 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: admitry in the Royal Navy in London throughout the sixteen 109 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: sixties and later a member of Parliament from Harwell, Yes. 110 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Queen, you may know him from basically being the voice 111 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: of the Stuart cabinet and the monarchy coming back into play. 112 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: That's right, we're talking now about none of the the 113 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: baddest of the Stuart Restoration. 114 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the horniest naval administer. 115 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: I know from seventeenth century England. None O. There, that's 116 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: Samuel Peeps and his book, The Diary of Samuel Peace. 117 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: Let's get right into it. So he's kind of like 118 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: the upper middle class guy who's like a bureaucrat who 119 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: like lives at the house of his lord and it 120 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: is still being kind of feudal seventeenth century England is 121 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: a time of great tumult. In sixteen forty eight, Charles 122 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 2: the First is deposed the Interperior call the Interregnum where 123 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: Oliver Cromwell Harram becomes the leader of England. They call 124 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: it the Protectorate, and they're like we're going to be 125 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: a republic, like we're done with the monarchy. But you know, 126 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: it's short lived, like many revolutions, it's sort of undone. 127 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: And in sixteen sixty, after Oliver Cromwell dies, things are 128 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: in kind of disarray and Charles the Second, who's Charles 129 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: the first son, who's been in exile in the Netherlands, 130 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: comes back, and basically that's right when Samuel Peep starts 131 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: this diary. He just happens started this darty in sixteen 132 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: sixty and so he keeps this diary for this decade 133 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: that is like insanely pivotal in British history, like start 134 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: of the Stuart Restoration, Great Fire of London, great Plague, 135 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: great Play, you know, the Dutch War. And then he's 136 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: also like this secretary who's high in the navy, and 137 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: so he's kind of like organizing the war. 138 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: He's doing so much like war admin and like sending 139 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: seamen their money and like also going on ships. 140 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: And what's cool is that he's like this middle class 141 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: kind of bureaucrack guy, but he is like, you know, 142 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: amongst the elite, and so he like knows the king 143 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: and he's like always that means the people, and like 144 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: he's seen all of this high society gossip. 145 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: Kind of like the Tina Brown. He's literally the Tina 146 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: but also literally is gossip girl. 147 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: But he's also like Forrest Gump, where it's just like 148 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: you're just at every like major event. 149 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: History, NASA man on the moon. 150 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: Right, and you're seeing it all happen, but then being like, 151 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: but I also wanted to fuck my wife's maid, like 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: while it's going down. 153 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk about we read the modern. 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: Edition, yeah, and I will say, are you aware that 155 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: this book is a little ubraged, Yeah, which is that 156 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: we were literally the sex scenes are like dot dot dotted. 157 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm so little like it's very unaware of 158 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: the sex scenes because I started watching this very like 159 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: on Roku TV BBC like movie about him, and it 160 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: starts off with him like fucking a woman while he's 161 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: in jail through the bars. 162 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: I don't remember. 163 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: That's exactly, That's what I'm saying. So I was already 164 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: like I've been in this book, and he is really 165 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: horny and we're obviously going to get into that, but 166 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: like he is never like saying like we. 167 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: Fucked, okay, talking about the sex thing for one second. 168 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: So this is when he's having an affair with Deb, 169 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: his wife's maid. 170 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: He's which all it was kind of customary. 171 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: Then yeah, and this is when he gets caught on 172 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: October twenty fifth, sixteen sixty eight. So home, into dinner, 173 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 2: and after dinner all the afternoon, got my wife and 174 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: boy to read to me. When he says boy, he 175 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: means his like male servant. And at night w Battilia 176 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 2: comes and SUPs with us, and after supper to have 177 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: my head combed by Deb. So Deb is the maid 178 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 2: and she's just like combing his hair after he takes 179 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 2: his wig off, which occasions the greatest sorrow to me 180 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: that I ever knew in this world for my wife 181 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 2: coming up suddenly did find me embrace seen the girl 182 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: dot dot dot. I was at a wonderful loss upon it, 183 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: and the girly also, so I looked it up. The 184 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: actual passage is and then like not like for like 185 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: ninth greater version, it was she did find me embracing 186 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: the girl with my main hand in her honey, stop, yeah, 187 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: see you? 188 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: And why honey? Yeah, I think it's fingers. I think 189 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: it's like four fingers. 190 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 2: I was gonna say three, but you might be right 191 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: on the four. Also, hands are smaller. 192 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: Get out of my history books. Can you also imagine 193 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: like how dirty his hands must have been. I mean, 194 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: I guess everything was better than everything was dirty, but 195 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: it was so like his hands were probably like steeped 196 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: in beef towel. 197 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and everything's covered in soot, and there's just like 198 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: fires everywhere and coal everywhere and like everything and just 199 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: like fish and you're just eating sardines with your hands. 200 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's been like, oh my poor deb did 201 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: come down with sickness. Okay, I am like now pissed 202 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: because almost every entry is like I laid in bed 203 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: with my wife, or he's like being horny for someone else. 204 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like it's a lot. But he then 205 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: he talks a lot about kissing girls, and you're like, 206 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: just to kiss just a kid, and half the time 207 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: kissing is like so then I kissed his wife and 208 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: you're like, hah, so you're just kiss her on the cheek, 209 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: but then till me He's like, and I did see 210 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: a woman in the stairwell next to the King's quarters, 211 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: and I did go ahead and kiss her, thinking that 212 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: she was a woman of pleasure, and she did kiss me, 213 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: but we did only but kissing, and for that I 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: did feel guilty. And he stole back. 215 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: Office and he'll be like, if another man is there, 216 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: and if like the Lord of Sandwich is then he's 217 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: like and we all kissed merrily, and they're being so 218 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: Cortison hands doing square dances or whatever and like being 219 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: so dances. But then he'll be like, I walk down 220 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: a path, I saw a very attractive woman and I 221 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: walked back and he's being so like kind of like 222 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: shy and being so like her bosom was fun. 223 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: It's crazy because it's like, so they're like doing straight cruising, 224 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: like straight cold heterosexual cruising culture is alive and well 225 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: in sixteen sixties London. 226 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's always like getting like dressed. 227 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: He's always getting dressed and like also like. 228 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: This this book is half of it is him just 229 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: being like, Okay, my wife says that lace collars drawn 230 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: to the back that are silk or in fashion. 231 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: So I need to go get her a lace collar 232 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 2: and I'm so pissed, and then drop fifty shillings at 233 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: the exchange. And he's always going to the exchange and 234 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: be like, ugh, drop more shillines and fucking gloves. But 235 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: then he's always been like, wait, I just got these 236 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: new pants and they're so fast. 237 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It's like as he's in town, he's like, wait, 238 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: I got these stunning gloves. 239 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: I also love. It's insane to think about. He's always 240 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: talking about going to the office. No, I know what 241 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: it's like going to the office. 242 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: He's like ex executive, but it is this like fab 243 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: girl boss kind of way. Yeah, he's like has all 244 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: of his maids like dresses with but then they're dressing camp. 245 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: But he usually has a drink before the office. 246 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 2: Oh well, he has his morning draft. 247 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 1: Jarnie draft, which I guess I learned is because like 248 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: they couldn't really drink the water so that they would 249 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: all have kind of like light ales. Yes in the morning, right, nobody. 250 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: It's so girl busy because then it's like after the office, 251 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: then you do a full pub crawl. It's like he's 252 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 2: not so besotted by the affairs of the state. He's 253 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: still just like I'm making time for just like conversation 254 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: and friends like this is literally like one day after 255 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: work at noon Harry Ethel came to me and went 256 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: along with mister myloord by coach as far as Hasbury Court, 257 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: and then we sat him down and went to the clerks, 258 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: where we came a little too late, but in a closet. 259 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: We had a very good dinner by mister Pinky's courtesy, 260 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: and after the night we had a pretty good singing 261 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: and one has it sung alone after the old fashion, 262 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: which was very much cried up, but I did not 263 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: like it. Thence we went to the Green Dragon on 264 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: Lambeth Hill, both the mister Pinky Smith Harrison Morris that 265 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: sang the bass, Shepley and I and now we're saying 266 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: all sorts of things, and I eventually with good success 267 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: upon things at first sight. And after that I played 268 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: on my flagiola and stayed there till nine o'clock. After that, 269 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: Shepley Harris said, and myself we went to Westminster on 270 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: foot and at the Golden Lion near charring Cross, we 271 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: went in and drank a pint of wine. It's like 272 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: you're going to one tavern, you're having dinner in a closet, 273 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: more ale, next tavern, next another wench more Ale, and. 274 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: It also shocks me more. I'm like, damn, like carriages 275 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: really are speeding up here because I'm like, you're actually 276 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: hitting up a lot of places. I feel like early 277 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: American history, they're always being like, oh, it took me 278 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: two days to get to the tavern home, and it's like, 279 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: I mean, London, it's a city, it's closer, but like 280 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: he's always like going by boat to like another bar 281 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: and then like hopping in a carriage to like another 282 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: lord's house. Then they're catching a play, then he's back home. 283 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's the difference between like 284 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: more like village frontier suburban life versus like the central 285 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: core of London. 286 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Like American suburbria started and like and he's being like 287 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: core city. 288 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: Like yeah no, it took like Paul Revere a long 289 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: time to ride to Lexington on a horse, but he's. 290 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: Like literally downtown. 291 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: He's like in downtown London and he's taking like a 292 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: boat like four blocks and. 293 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: Then it's like lock boat, which we need to bring back. 294 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: I know, and then he's walking three blocks around their 295 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: house and then like walking back across the bridge. It's 296 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: kind of like it's all pretty es central. 297 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: So let's get into his relationship with his wife. She's French, 298 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: and they have like kind of like the most just 299 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: like to this day, like modern but like accurate display 300 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: of a relationship, like. 301 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: It's the most normal relationship ever. It's actually kind of crazy. 302 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: Like here's this passage. This is by the way, right 303 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: before his brother dies. So to the change, and then's 304 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: home where my wife and I fell out about my 305 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: not being willing to have her gown laced, but we 306 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: lay out the same money and more in a plain 307 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: new one. At this she flounced away in a manner 308 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: I never saw her, noah, which I could ever endure. 309 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: So I away to the office, though she had dressed 310 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: herself to go see my lady sandwich. 311 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: She's so she buy. 312 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: And buy, Yeah, she buy and buying. A rage follows 313 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: me and coming to me tells me in a spiteful 314 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: manner that like a vixen, and with a look full 315 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: of rancor, that she would go and buy a new 316 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: one and lace it and make me pay for it 317 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: and then let me burn it if I would after 318 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: she had done it. So she went away in a fury, 319 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: and it's so classic fight where she's mad. But then 320 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm mad because you're actually so mad. The 321 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: way you're mad about this gown is toxic. Yeah, and 322 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: now I'm mad about that. 323 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: It's like the fact that you flounced like that is 324 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: actually so toxic. And she's like, it's actually insane that 325 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: you would rather buy your new dress then pay for 326 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: me to get this dress laced, and he's just being like, 327 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: lacing is like a waste of funny. 328 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: It's also crazy. She actually like, this whole needs so 329 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: much money because you need to pay every time to 330 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: get your gown lace, which makes sense. It takes hours. 331 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the amount of like up keep goes 332 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: into clothing. And it's interesting when you think about fast 333 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: fashion and the czars of today. 334 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: Instead of buying another shirt on sheen right, get a 335 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: gown laced, pay a local woman to lace your gown. 336 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 2: I do think that there's a happy medium, because it 337 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: does seem to me that the clothes need constant repairs 338 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: and it's just like the pants are being sewn by 339 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: one of the house wenches every single day. 340 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: But it's also the economy. Those wenches need jobs. 341 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: No, that's true. No, you're right, and from like a 342 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 2: Kinesian perspective, it makes sense, just like the wench has 343 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: got to be doing something, you know, if she's not 344 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 2: she's not sewing, then she's getting she's saying her deep Yeah. 345 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: So I learned a crazy thing about Charles and his 346 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: wife Catherine, Queen Catherine, who actually the public hated and 347 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: did little research myself because she was like Portuguese and 348 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: like was Catholic but converted. 349 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: He talks so much about the Portuguese the book. He 350 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: keeps being like they're so ugly and weird and their 351 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: town is gross, and like they don't make sense. 352 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: Because I was like, what's going on? Because he's being 353 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: so gossip even though he's always like fighting with his wife. 354 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, there's so many like 355 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: cute paragraphs where he's being like, my wife and I 356 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: laid in bed and had so much discourse about. 357 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: Not yeah, no, they're having discourse about like life, ARTI theater, 358 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: like it's really. 359 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: Beautiful, politics, finance, and then he'll be like the king 360 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: does not like his wife and for she can bear 361 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: no children as well. 362 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: People hate when a queen can't bear a child. It's 363 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: really But the thing is people love Charles. He was 364 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: called the Mary King, and I think there was a 365 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 2: huge amount of joy at like the monarchy being restored. 366 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: But people were so happy about that, and I think 367 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: people just didn't get that she literally was just I mean. 368 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: Well, but she was sick girl. Remember how she's sick 369 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: for like she's the queen was possed because she's sick today. 370 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: Kay, Yeah, and everyone hates Megan. 371 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: It's like her name is also Catherine. That's crazy, yeah, 372 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: because she is hard sick for like hard six months. 373 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: And he's carrying on with like two different messages and 374 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 2: everyone's talking about and he's being kind of like he's 375 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: the King's being like a little bit obvious boots about it. 376 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: He's no get this. So her best friend was like 377 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: her maiden, and then he fired her maiden so he 378 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: could have his mistresses become her maiden, which Samuel Peeps 379 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: also does. Yeah, they're all being like so sister wife 380 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: and being like, well, obviously I'm gonna be fucking my 381 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: wife's maid because it just makes sense, like keep her around. 382 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just about domestic convenience. And also like if 383 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: she's on the payroll, then it's I mean, and it 384 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: is a little bit more like abusive power in this way, 385 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: but it's also bit more like, you know, fam keep 386 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: in the family and also pay women what they are owed. 387 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: Just to continue with the wife for a second, he's 388 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: always so mad at her for being messy, which is 389 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: the most normal relationship thing ever. I just like, there's 390 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: so many instants in the book. After dinner, my wife 391 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: went and fetch the little to us, which were very 392 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 2: pretty ones. After they were gone, I went up to 393 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: put my papers in order, and finding my wife's clothes 394 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: lie carelessly laid up. I was angry with her, which 395 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: I was troubled for. It's like this is always getting 396 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: mad and then feeling guilty about getting mad. 397 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: And this, by the way, is right after he did 398 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: buy her a new petticoat. It's like the way I've 399 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: been in this like fight where I feel like I'll 400 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: see Maya like buy a new like vintage like Sonia 401 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: riquel piece, and then I'll see it crumpled into her 402 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: drawer and I'm like, do you want to respect the clothing? 403 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 2: Or not okay wait when so after like she finds him, 404 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: like we're saying three or four deep in in the Maid, 405 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: she makes him fire the maid, which she does with 406 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: tears in his eyes, and it's like, wow, this is 407 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: so dramatic and. 408 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: You're streaming down. 409 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: You can't be our wench anymore. 410 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 3: You can't. 411 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you must go. 412 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 2: But then like right after he fires her, he like 413 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: goes and like tries to find her, and then he goes, so, 414 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: I could not be commanded by my reason, but I 415 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: must go this very night. And so by coach at 416 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: being out dark eye to her close by my tailors, 417 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: he like finds out where she's staying, which is by 418 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 2: his taylor's house. 419 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: She's like perfect and you get new liggings. 420 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: And she comes into the coach to me, and then 421 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: he writes a mix of French and English as like 422 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: a weird way of like concealing. He goes, and JA 423 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: did beze her? I did, nevertheless give her the best 424 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: counsel I could and beze. 425 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what does bezi make cin. 426 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: Beze means to kiss, but it also means to fuck, 427 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: So they fucked. They fucked. He's definitely four deep in 428 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: the uber like he's down. 429 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: And the coaches a clop clop, and he's like, why 430 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: don't you actually step outside. I'll pay the fare whatever 431 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, and he's like damn, I'm like so 432 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: sorry I fired you, but like one last tussle in 433 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: the uber. 434 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: No, but you know that he's getting a really bad 435 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 2: rating from the driver and. 436 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: Then everyone's like, dude, do not drive pep. 437 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: He's always getting so much honey juice all over my 438 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: appols and it's. 439 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: Like so much like petticoats are flying and he's like 440 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: getting under so many layers. And then like there must 441 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: have been such a business in the lacing and dressing 442 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: because they're always like fucking and. 443 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: Having to be. 444 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: Someone's been like pay me five pence and I'll lace 445 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: up your breches a get. 446 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: Know, and you have to like pay all these just 447 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: like freaky little beggars. You're like throwing Chillians left and 448 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: right to get relaced after you fucked new job. 449 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, their Marge was so sexy because he 450 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: hires a man to teach her how to dance, and 451 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: he's always hiring people in a very noble way, like 452 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: to tea. 453 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 2: Because she needs the class, she needs something to do. 454 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: She's pattering around the fucking house. I can only re 455 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 2: upholster the fucking chambers, like so many times a year. 456 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: We need to teach her to sing. 457 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: Teach her to dance. And then he's always shopping, of course, 458 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: because it's like, I mean, I feel like he's so 459 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: us in that thing where it's like, Okay, you have 460 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: an appointment in Soho, you're doing one podcast in Chinatown, 461 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: and then you're like, well, I'm here, so why don't 462 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: I sure? 463 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, literally my change, and she. 464 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, so of course I'll like go into the glove store. 465 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: He buys her these globes and he's like, and I 466 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: assume that he meant like world globes, and he was like, 467 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: I think she had the mind to learn about them, 468 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: So I bought her globes and I can't wait to 469 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: teach her about them. But then with the dancing, he 470 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: hires a teacher and then it's literally so merry because 471 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: it's a hot guy. 472 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: No, and then he's like, wait, me thinks I should 473 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: not have hired this guy, and like they're being so 474 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: talking and one time he comes home and he's like 475 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: they weren't even dancing. They were just talking. Literally, they 476 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: were just scur scene. He's like, meddle me, but then 477 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: he admits it. He's like, but I he's turned on 478 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: by it. And he's also just like and I know 479 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: that I too am a bit naughty and perhaps have 480 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: elements of dishonesty that perhaps I have not shared, and 481 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: I shouldn't be so quick of judgment, which is so. 482 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: Modern of him, because I feel like, honestly, I feel 483 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: like it got more conservative in the eighteen hundreds to 484 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: be more like, well, I'm the man and I can 485 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: like go rustle about in petticoats. But he's like, no, 486 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: I get it, Like I'm so naughty with like every lady. 487 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, of the house. And I do think that this 488 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: time was also like about like pleasure and like and 489 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 2: enjoyment and like there has been so much like back 490 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: and forth. The Protestant Reformation was like hugely tumultuous throughout 491 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: Europe and like the Anglician Church of its hard one 492 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: hundred years before. So when I was kind of this 493 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: mix above, but like Catholics were being like, Okay, we're 494 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: getting with the classics. It's like, but people are still 495 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: doing it. And Charles the san was like more tall. 496 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: Boats the way it mirrors today because this is the 497 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: time of also the plague, and I feel like it 498 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: was just like they're having their like twenty twenty two 499 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: when everyone like now became obsessed with like vodka Rigatonian 500 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: like yes and Martini's and pleasure and just like yes, 501 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: because it was we all want booths and like excess. 502 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: Yes, post pandemic people wanted excess because the plague happens 503 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: in sixteen sixty five or something like copper through this. 504 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: But then also you know, after the tumult of the 505 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: interregnum and then endless wars and. 506 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: There, I feel like they wanted the monarchy. 507 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: They're like, oh they did. Although there's an interesting passage. 508 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: So one of the things that's so crazy is he's 509 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: literally on the boat with the king coming back from 510 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: the Netherlands. He just happens to be on it. 511 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: It's like he's so casual guy about how he's hanging 512 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: with the king. 513 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like very chill, deeply chill. So like when 514 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: the king comes back, there is a lot of excitement 515 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: and everyone's having all of these like bonfires in the 516 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 2: city Great Joy all yesterday at London a night, more 517 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: bonfires than ever and ringing of bells and drinking of 518 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 2: the King's health upon their knees in the streets, which 519 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 2: methinks is a little too much. But everybody seems to 520 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: be very joyful in this business. He's like, everyone's been 521 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 2: a little bit too King Pilled, like, yes, the King 522 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: is back, but let's all just like calm down. 523 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: He's like, we don't need to have bonfires about the king, 524 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: like I've hung out with him. 525 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: And he also says, so they then dig up Oliver 526 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 2: Cromwell and put his literal rotting head on a spike 527 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: in front of Wismondster Abbey and it stays there for 528 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: twenty years. 529 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: No, and he's being like, and I got a message. 530 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: The limbs are beginning to smell. 531 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: It's like so gross and barbarican insane. And he also 532 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: he's like, I think this is too far, Like we don't, 533 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: and he says, he's like, you know, I think Oliver 534 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 2: Cromwell was a brave guy to like try to lead 535 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 2: England into a republic. I got it didn't work out, 536 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: but do we need to be so oh, King Pill 537 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: that we're like pulling him out of the ground, Like 538 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: that's crazy. 539 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Because I feel like the way he sees the king, 540 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: like he's kind of talking about him like he is 541 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: like a dope friend, but he's kind of like, yeah, 542 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: he's also my friend. Like I don't know, he's not 543 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: doing anything like so amazing, No. 544 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: I mean he you know, he cares about order, he 545 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 2: cares about civility. He cares about like thinking the lords 546 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: of running well and like and like when. 547 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: He sees, you know, all these seamen begging and he 548 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: is being like, well, the government actually does oh each 549 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: of them twenty pounds. Yeah, and he's insulting the government 550 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: from not paying them. But he's also a little bit 551 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: like grossed out about like how begging they are. 552 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 2: Well, he's also kind of from a pr perspective, he 553 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: looks bad, yes, and he realized that he was like, 554 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: let's not be too like indulgent and excessive because it's 555 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: gonna give revolution vibes when everyone has like so many 556 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: debts and they're seeing the king in his court like 557 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: carry on like so em merrily, right. 558 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: And he's like, then they're gonna be so mad at us. 559 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 2: But also when he's on that boat, the part where 560 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: they're gazing upon other women out the window, very calm 561 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: again and I pretty well, but my head ached all day. 562 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: The lieutenant and I lay out of his window with 563 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: his glass looking at the women that were on board 564 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 2: the vessels nearby, being pretty handsome. The level of horniness 565 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: it requires to be on a ship looking through a 566 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 2: spyglass out of window at women on other ships, like 567 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: they're in full petticoats on the deck of another ship. 568 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: It's like, what are. 569 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: You you know, the sea is so rocket right, and 570 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: they're all like covered in so much like turkey blood. 571 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: Right, that's like turkey blood coated woman in petticoats so 572 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: far away on the deck of another shipping flock. How 573 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: well carriage? 574 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: She is like, there, aren't like you get so horny 575 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: in the army because you're just like all in your 576 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: little bunk. 577 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: And being at sea makes anyone horny. 578 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: Probably on the boat she was a little more like, 579 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: heave ho, don't you. 580 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: More? 581 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, okay, now it makes more sense, Yeah, okay, 582 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: all right, carry on. 583 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: And he's okay, wait. He also he goes onto the ship. 584 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: It is also very like navel admin guy that like 585 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: finally gets to do something and he's being so like, ooh, 586 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: I get to go on the trip. Yeah, he like 587 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: writes his a state and writes his will and tells 588 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: his wife. 589 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: Right, your will every time you go on a boat, 590 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: because you never know. 591 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing that. And he tells his wife 592 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: and he's been like and I was besotted and saddened 593 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: and she may never see me again. And then he 594 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: goes on the boat and he's like, I'm so happy 595 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: to like not be with this hoe and he basically 596 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: is like, I'm glad I don't have to think about 597 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: all of her bullshit like on the day today of 598 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: like if she wants her gowns laced or not. 599 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so I want to mention that the patches. 600 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: Let's get into patches. 601 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: So apparently women of the day were wearing patches of 602 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: fabric on their face. Like little I was. 603 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: Shook by that because I was like, I've never seen 604 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: this in like a you know many of the point. 605 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: He was like he was like saying that it was hot, 606 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: and he was like and like the King's mistress did 607 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: look very well carriaged and becoming with her three patches, and. 608 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: It's like a sign of being like I'm ready to 609 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: be horny, right, it's flagging again. They're straight cruising doing. 610 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: Modern like bandana culture. Yeah, and like one on the 611 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: middle of the nose meant that you were like in 612 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 2: heat like and like it's a little bit like acne 613 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 2: patches today that gen Z is just. 614 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: Imagining it very be your a but also much more 615 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: like made of horse hair and like velvet because. 616 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: It's basically just like one little piece of velvet that 617 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: you're licking. It's probably silk, like definitely silk that you 618 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: put on because it's adhesive just with saliva. 619 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: We should go to get some silk patches. He's always 620 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: like learning about fashions from his wife and like some 621 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: he's into and some he's not. Yeah, like his wife 622 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: tell him that like this certain type of like neck 623 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: covering is really sexy, and he's being like, I hate it, 624 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: but like my wife likes it, so sure, I feel 625 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: like it's very how like big pants are in fashion 626 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 1: and it's so just like a horny guy being like 627 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't want you to wear huge pants, but like 628 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: if it's in. 629 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: Fashion, sure, But then like six months later he's like, Okay, 630 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 2: actually he's. 631 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: Looking Yeah, he is just just has to get accustomed sometimes, 632 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: like to the styles of the day, and she's being like, no, 633 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: look like seriously, patches are in, scarfs are in like 634 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: perry golds are in. 635 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: And I need you to relace my gloves and give 636 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: me the seven shillings for it. And he's like, you 637 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: dastardly wretch, I'm going to the Dolphin tavern. Okay. This 638 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: is him just walking on the way to work one 639 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: day to my lord in the morning where I met 640 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: with Captain Cuttings, but my lord not being up and 641 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: went out to Charing Cross to see Major General Harrison 642 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: hanged drawn and courted, which was done there, he looking 643 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: as choful ast any man could do in that condition. 644 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: He was presently cut down and his head and heart 645 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: shone to the people, at which there was great shouts 646 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: of joy. It's just like the casualness of the public executioning. 647 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: And then like later when he's just like I paid 648 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: seven shillings so I get a good spot standing up 649 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: on like a cart to view this other hanging. And 650 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: it took like three hours to see the hanging. 651 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: No, and he's being so public concert about it, being 652 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: like no, and like I did go to like the 653 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: cup opening and then heard like someone was performing and 654 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: like the Killers performed. 655 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: It's absolutely barbaric, And it's like on the one hand 656 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: he is being like, no, we shouldn't have these heads 657 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: on a spike for like a year in this nasty 658 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: and like it's unnecessary. But then he's also just like 659 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: he's a man of the day. Yeah, girl, I'm going 660 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: in the execution. 661 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like are you It's like, are you going to 662 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: be execution later? 663 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 2: My girl? 664 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: Execution tonight, Queen. 665 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: Hung John in quarter tonight, queen. 666 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: Okay, here's the only time I found. I don't know 667 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: if you found, because this book is heavy. That his 668 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: wife finally accuses him of like cheating too much, like 669 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: obviously it's a very donats, don't tell, and she knows 670 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: what's up, but it's with her chambermaid. And this is 671 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: on Sunday, Lord's Day, up into my chambers to settle 672 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: some accounts there and by down comes my wife to 673 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: me and her nightgown, and we begun calmly that upon 674 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: having money to lace her gown for second morning, she 675 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: would promise to wear white locks no more in my sight, 676 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: which I like a severe fool thinking not enough begun 677 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: to accept against and made her fly out to very 678 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: high terms and cry, and in her heat told me 679 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: of keeping company with missus Nip, saying that if I 680 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: would promise never to see her more of whom she 681 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: had more reason to suspect that I had hat four 682 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: of Pembleton, she would never wear white locks more. So 683 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: It's basically like he hates when she wears a wig 684 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: of white attached locks, and she's like, if you don't 685 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: fuck missus palmer Bolton anymore, I won't wear white locks. 686 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean kind of a good deal. 687 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: No, I mean this is the politics of marriage in 688 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: the day. 689 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: And he's like it vexed me, but I knew to 690 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: shut my fat mouth. 691 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: Basically, he's just like, I'm getting a free pass here 692 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: and this is as good as gold. 693 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: So like she's just saying no more wigs. 694 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 2: And also the realities he knows he is going to 695 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: go see this nib again. 696 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely gonna see her. He's just like, I'll 697 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: just hide it a little bit more and just say yes, 698 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: I won't. 699 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: I love how this book is a diary that goes 700 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: here by year and day by day, day by day, 701 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: and you do and like he's constantly just being like, okay, 702 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 2: so now I have seven hundred and fifty pounds, but 703 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 2: I hope to one day have two thousand pounds, like 704 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: he is being this girl boss. 705 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: Because I think the book starts he has very much 706 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: more like two hundred pounds. 707 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 2: And then he has fifty seven hundred pounds by the end, 708 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 2: which I looked it up. That's one point four million 709 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: in today's term. 710 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: Okay, damn. 711 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: So he is like this middle class bier carap but 712 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: he he's basically rich by the end. 713 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: And I guess he takes a lot of bribes, which 714 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: I was kind of like getting catch during the book 715 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: because it's like so pounds this, and he's always meeting 716 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: up at a tavern and somebody giving him stuff. 717 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: Because people are always like getting hanged for robberies and 718 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: like random stuff and like deserting the army. But I 719 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 2: guess bribes was like more chill. 720 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: I think he's just like probably like at a tavern 721 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: and like another earl is like you take one hundred pounds, okay, 722 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: and then you let me go on this boat, and 723 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: he's probably like taking out his quill and doing something 724 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: quill life. 725 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: I just let when he starts sixteen sixty one. He 726 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: goes at the end of last in the beginning of 727 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: this year. I do live in one of the houses 728 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: belonging to the Navy Office as one of the principal officers. 729 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: And I've done it for a year and a half 730 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 2: after much of with work. Now I'm almost settled, my 731 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 2: family being myself, my wife, Jane, will Hugh or Wayneman 732 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: mccurley's brother also I left. 733 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: Who was he says, gurlyes like Gurly is. 734 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 2: Myself in constant good health and in my most handsome 735 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: and thriving condition. Blessed be Almighty God for it. He's 736 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: been so like this is my year. 737 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, my house. 738 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 3: No. 739 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: Whenever he ends a year, like after Christmas, like he'll 740 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: be getting in a fight, and then like he swears 741 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: off drinking, like which is so dry January. 742 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: Every year he's always. 743 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: Being like, I woke up sick and the maid who 744 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm fucking, I had to bring like a bathtub, and 745 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: so I was vomiting so much, and he's like it 746 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: was probably from the drink I had tonight. And he's like, 747 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: I made myself a vow and I need to keep 748 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: to my vows. But then he'll be like, well, but 749 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: then I did meet like Earl of like Quaddle two, 750 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: like at the Lord's Tallow tavern, and like we did 751 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: have beers. But sometimes he's been like they were actually 752 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: wasted and like I only had a drink. 753 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: No, and he's like being so judgmenttal and then be like, 754 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: oh but then my head ached the next day. There 755 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: at that one time he goes to dinner, he's like 756 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: and I could not believe that I had but not 757 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: one sip of wine the entire dinner. 758 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: No, he's like proud of himself. 759 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 2: But it's like that happens once. 760 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: No, it's very I was like, damn relate when you're 761 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: just being so like, oh yeah, I'm actually good Seltzer. 762 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 2: Thanks at night home and found my wife come home 763 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 2: and among other things, she hath got her teeth new 764 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: done by Laroche and R and D. No'm pretty handsome 765 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 2: and I was much pleased with it, so to bed 766 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: just like. 767 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: He's like, damn, your teeth aren't so fucked up anymore. 768 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: She got bed. She got these new teeth from roams amazing. 769 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 2: She was looking hot. Honestly, she was handsome as fuck. 770 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: Okay, so when he like witnesses the great fire, and 771 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: he is like really sad about it, and he's being like, oh, 772 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: and like everyone was dying, and he goes. So we 773 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,959 Speaker 1: were forced to begin to pack up our own goods 774 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: and prepare for the removal. And did by moonshine carry 775 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: much of my goods into the garden. And I looked 776 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: this up and it was just like he was being 777 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: so fab and like burying all of his fine cheeses 778 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: during the fire. And he was like, by daylight three 779 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: hundred houses in London had fallen. 780 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: This part's insane, so they'll be at not knowing how 781 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 2: to remove his wine, did dig a pit in the 782 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: garden and laid it in there, And I took the 783 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: opportunity of laying all the papers of my office that 784 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: I could not otherwise dispose of. And in the evening 785 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 2: so w penn and I did dig another and pour 786 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,359 Speaker 2: our wine in it, and I my parmesan cheese as 787 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 2: well as my wine and some other things. Burying cheese during. 788 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: A fire me just like burying your like parmesan and wine. 789 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: You know, the fire is absolutely devastating. 790 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: He has empathy and he is like, oh, I did 791 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: go to bed sad yeah, but I'm also bearing it. 792 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 2: Brought him to tears to see all of London a flame. 793 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: What I thought was also really interesting is he literally 794 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: tells the King like he's like running to the palace 795 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 2: and he's like at Whitehall and he's like, girl, we 796 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 2: need to actually take down all these houses because for 797 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 2: those of you who don't know, most of the houses 798 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: were thatched roofs okay that goes out like okay, yat 799 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 2: and a fire okay, it's insanely combustible match lit. And 800 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 2: so he goes to the King and he's like, girl, 801 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: we need to pull these down. And then the King 802 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 2: commanded me to go to my Lord Mayor for him 803 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 2: and command him to spare no houses, but to pull 804 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: down before the fire every way tell him. So he 805 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 2: was like, you're right, girl, Like he was actually like 806 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 2: helping stop the fire and like pad the King's ear. 807 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: No, he wasn't being so like I'm just drinking and 808 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: like writing random papers and letters like he was running 809 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: about town. He was. 810 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: And I have to say, like, one thing I live 811 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 2: with this diary is it's so like he has such 812 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 2: a curiosity about the world and an interest in people, 813 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 2: and it's like there's so much is his. 814 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: Interest in people. 815 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 2: There's so much plot. He's always like talking about everyone 816 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 2: in the town. Like when I have kept the diary. 817 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: It's so funny because I was going to ask you, 818 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: I wonder not to read anything, but what have your 819 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: diaries been? 820 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: Like I actually kept the diary recently when I was 821 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: traveling in Europe and and I was being like so 822 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: girl and like bottomless at the airport obviously like stop 823 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: doing the trip, but I was being like pretty like 824 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm a writer and like, you know, doing kind of like. 825 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: Be more diddian about it. 826 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 2: I was being more diddian and like as I sit 827 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 2: on the train as we cross the border into Hungry 828 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 2: and I'm like writing like floor descriptions of like the vegetation, 829 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 2: and then like and you can see the crumbling tower 830 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 2: blocks of the Soviet regime, and then. 831 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: Like, oh, how I sip my espresso Soviet. 832 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 2: And I'm talking about, you know, my own insecurities and 833 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: my relationship. It's pretty introspective. It's very like giving main 834 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: character energy. Yeah, and like I'm not being like so 835 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: talking about every person I meet and like the more 836 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 2: plot stuff that happens, unless it's like sexploits, which I 837 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: do write down. 838 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: You're like, well, if other people are having sex with me, 839 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,959 Speaker 1: I'll write it down, Yes, right. What I loved about 840 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: this is like, no, I'm sure that diary is amazing public. 841 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,919 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying like I'm being like a more 842 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 2: like narcissistic, introspective quirdo. 843 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: He really is like a diarist of like his time, of. 844 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: His times and like all the stuff that's going on. 845 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 2: He just has this realless curiosity. 846 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: But it is kind of this more sexy British way 847 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 1: where it's a mix where he is being introspective still 848 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: and be like, m my wife is vexed, but it 849 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: will be mixed with like wrote the paper, put out 850 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: the roof fire. 851 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's one sentence of being like I felt 852 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: bad about yelling at him. I'm like, I would be 853 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: writing three paragraphs just like. And I do wonder if 854 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: this dynamic that I find again and again and my 855 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 2: relationships comes back to my childhood and you know. 856 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: Like and maybe the gloves actually symbolize my father. But 857 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: at the same time, I will say I feel like 858 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: his style of diary when they uncovered that in the 859 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds was so new. So I feel like the 860 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: way you're writing in many most write a diary happens 861 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: because he did this, Like you see, it's possible not 862 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 1: to just be like we cross the Allegheny River. 863 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: Yes, because I'm also writing as someone like who has 864 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: like read one book by Don't and is like writing 865 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 2: kind of for an audience in a way, whereas he's 866 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: not really writing for an audience, like he one day 867 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 2: thinks that someone's gonna read his diary, but he doesn't 868 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen in his lifetime. 869 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: No, And I feel like I've written diaries, yeah, like 870 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: in the past of either just like so much like 871 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: scribble and emotion and it's much more teen diary and 872 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: angst and. 873 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 2: Lyrics. 874 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're way more like lyrics mixed in with 875 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: just like I don't know why she thinks that, and 876 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: like will I ever be this cool? Like and it's 877 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: not being like today was September eleventh, yeah, or it's 878 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: being like Trump hassassinated golf course I bought a coat, yeah, 879 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: like we should be. I mean I feel like my 880 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: Twitter is being more that and like Twitter stuff and 881 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: they will publish that, and they published little observations. No, 882 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 1: I am inspired, and I do want to be more 883 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: like giving one thing that happened to me, one emotional thing. 884 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 2: And then one like topic event of national importance, and 885 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 2: then one of local importance. 886 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: Exactly local politics, national politics, shopping culture. I guess that's 887 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: what the vip unch is. 888 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: One thing that struck me is how we've mentioned about 889 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: how similar his daily life is to our daily lives. Now. 890 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 2: He's like going to the office and getting into fights 891 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: with his wife, goes to a play, goes to a bar, 892 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 2: goes home and like has so many is hung over 893 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 2: the next day, like anxiety about money, counting this money 894 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 2: like and gets up, goes to work, do it all 895 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 2: over again. But one thing that struck me is that 896 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 2: I feel like we are actually much more isolated in 897 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 2: our lives now. 898 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he is like doing this thing where he's 899 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: much more going to the town and like you're just 900 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: going into the tavern where it's like, yeah, we may 901 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: like go to you know, jeans and you're seeing people 902 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: you run into, but just kind of more of a daily. 903 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 2: And every element of your life than had more people. 904 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 2: It's like they have seven winches at home, their middle 905 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 2: class family but they have all these servants. People used 906 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 2: to have servants styling. Like he's getting his haircut and 907 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 2: like shaved, like every week at the barber's, but like 908 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: he also at one point goes to the barber to 909 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 2: get a tie put on, to get a cravat because 910 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: he's like. 911 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: Well again, they need everything tied in the count's lace. 912 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 2: Right. 913 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: It's like, what if our lives were so much more 914 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: social where I was, you know, hiring someone to come 915 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: over to dress me, yes, which is kind of our 916 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: modern days being should I wear this? 917 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 2: We have the group chat, thank god. But I do 918 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 2: just think we are so even in a city like 919 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 2: New York and millions of people, it is so easy 920 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 2: to go an entire day without ever having a meaningful 921 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: interaction with anyone. We go to the gym, we scan 922 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 2: our little barcode headphones on. You know, it's like we're 923 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 2: not knowing the butcher. Okay, we're throwing it in our car. 924 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 2: It's like we use the electric razor at home. We're 925 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: not going to the barber I have. I'm not having 926 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 2: a mourning draft with my locals and discussing the matters 927 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 2: of stage. 928 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I feel like coffee mob is 929 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: so morning draft and I am like running into a 930 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: guy I see there every day and he's being so like, yeah, 931 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 1: I actually like, maybe do want to move back to Cambridge? 932 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 2: But you're not talking about affairs of state with him, 933 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: and that's the problem. 934 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: But I think that's enough to talk about the affairs 935 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: of state of the culture of Cambridge sometimes, yeah. 936 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: A little bit. Okay, you have your college I am. 937 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 2: I guess it's like I go to a coffee shop 938 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 2: and it's like I say hi to the breest or whatever, 939 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 2: and like, I'm not woon girl, give you. It gives 940 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 2: me the gen Z heart with the hands thing and. 941 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: I anyway, you should hire a houseboy that you beaten 942 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: like to dress That's what I'm saying. I think you 943 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: want a dresser. 944 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: Six home wenches. 945 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: You're like, here's the thing with so much more social 946 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: with the wenches. Okay, what happened to that? 947 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 2: I just miss all the life or could we have 948 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 2: like neighborhood wenches, Like I don't need six bunches in 949 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 2: my apartment because it's a railroad. Ultimately, you want. 950 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: Them like classic upstairs downstairs. You want them all to 951 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: be like in like bunk beds in a shared railroad. 952 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: One house on the block should be the Wench house. 953 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 2: And then like we are. 954 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 1: Six gay guys and it's like a hype house. 955 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: It's like a hype house of gay wenches. They each 956 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 2: have their own apartment that's like as big as my apartment, 957 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 2: but like they're just coming to the other like they're cleaning, 958 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 2: and but like I'm seeing them and like I'm fucking 959 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: one of the wenches. You know what I. 960 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 1: Also love about, Yes, I'm gonna get you a wench 961 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 1: for Christmas is the amount of like theater he does see. 962 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: And I think we've like made theater thing only like 963 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: women and like gay guys like and it's like, yeah, 964 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: it's become this like more faggot coded girl thing to do. 965 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess like comedy is so like straight guy. 966 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: But my wife and I to the puppet play in 967 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: Covenant Garden, which I saw the other day, and indeed 968 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: it is very pleasant here among the fiddlers. I first 969 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: saw Dyl Simer played it on sticks, knocking up the 970 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: strings and is very pretty. And he's seeing a puppet 971 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: show for the second time and giving it a review. 972 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now we would not be like uh, I 973 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 2: just saw this puppet show last. 974 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like, but I will to my wife again. 975 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 2: And I like that. He has like, you know, a 976 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 2: critique of everything he sees, and he's always like, well, 977 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 2: the acting was bad, the writing was okay, Falstaff was good, 978 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 2: but everyone else sucked. 979 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: Which we have to get to one of the best 980 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 1: lines of all time in the book. And he goes, well, 981 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: I just saw Midsummer's Night Dream. It was dreadful. It's 982 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: like you never hear someone in the past actually being 983 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: like that Shakespeare play sucked. Like all we hear is 984 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: respect for Shakespeare, I know. And I was like, we 985 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: actually just talked about like maybe seeing a random production 986 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: that you're. 987 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 2: Like, it's actually like, like Shakespeare died not that long before, 988 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 2: so it's still just being like, yeah, we can talk 989 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 2: shit about it. We don't have to have the person 990 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,439 Speaker 2: who ever lived like some are good. 991 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I saw The New Joker. I actually 992 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: wasn't that into it. 993 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 2: Wait, you remember the part where also woman spits on 994 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 2: him by accident. But then he was like, but she 995 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 2: was hot, right, but she. 996 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: Was attractive and I did enjoy a spit. 997 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 2: Here we go. I went to mister Cruz, and then 998 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 2: to the theater where I saw again the lost Lady, 999 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: which do now Okay, he's ex seen things multiple times 1000 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 2: which do now please me better than before. And here 1001 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 2: I sitting behind in a dark place a lady spit 1002 00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 2: backward upon me by mistake not seeing me, but after 1003 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 2: seeing her to be very pretty lady. I was not 1004 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: troubled at it at all. It's like, you are kinky 1005 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 2: boot E is kinky boot I guess we should maybe 1006 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 2: get to the plague quickly. Yeah, it is so Covid. 1007 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: And all the rich people are going to the country 1008 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:30,600 Speaker 1: and he talks about all. 1009 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,280 Speaker 2: These people and fleeing in their coaches, in their coach 1010 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 2: in the country, and like when it starts, he's like, 1011 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 2: so the plague is kind of in Amsterdam, and we're 1012 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: a little worried, and we're like, are we quarantining the 1013 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,439 Speaker 2: depth chips? And it's like it's literally verbating the same 1014 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 2: thing that happened, or we're being like boo, here's a 1015 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: case and there's something going down in Wuhan. Where is that? 1016 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 2: And then like you're reading these stories or being like 1017 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 2: it's crazy and everyone's like. 1018 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: You shows and then you're like Huh, there's one case 1019 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: in Philly, and then yeah, everyone Insley is getting in 1020 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: their coaches and like buying new coaches in out of 1021 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:01,720 Speaker 1: their country. 1022 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 2: Everyone fleet Manhattan, although it's insane, is at some point 1023 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 2: he says there was seven thousand people a week dying 1024 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,279 Speaker 2: in London, which is more than was ever dying a 1025 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 2: week in New York City during the height of COVID. 1026 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: Imagine how crazy that was in London in sixteen sixteen crazy. 1027 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 2: And he's talking about just like. 1028 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: You're walking by and its people with toils. 1029 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 2: Like a dye where the smell must have been horrendous, 1030 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 2: but like, were you so tolerant? You know, yeah, everything 1031 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 2: smelled bad. 1032 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: Because it's like everything smelled so bad, but like truly 1033 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: like seven thousand bodies probably like rotting, and then they 1034 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 1: were burning them and that's more people burning them, and 1035 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,919 Speaker 1: then then they're coming up to you being that give 1036 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: me bread, give me and you'll like stay away. 1037 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,279 Speaker 2: And then it's like they were like not even having 1038 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 2: enough room in the cemeteries to bury the bodies, which 1039 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 2: you could like pay more to be buried in one 1040 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 2: of the cemeteries. 1041 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: That's probably what he was taking bribes. 1042 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 2: For be like, fine, I'll bury your wife in the cemetery. 1043 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 2: But he was also being like it is shady that 1044 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 2: they're saying that they're not going to bury everyone. 1045 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: Because he does have respect for the dead. 1046 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,359 Speaker 2: But I do think it's actually quite well of him 1047 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 2: that he doesn't flee. 1048 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say he doesn't. He's like, well, and 1049 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: another cabbage went and lady of this goes, and he 1050 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: stays with his wife and they just kind of like 1051 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: hunker down, and he doesn't flee to their He doesn't 1052 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: actually have country house. He's like always like visiting. 1053 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,959 Speaker 2: Because he is ultimately like so the lord, and he's 1054 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 2: always like obsessed with his lord, and it's just like, 1055 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 2: can you like stop sucking your bosses like slash landlord's 1056 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 2: dick like so much. 1057 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: Your sub lord. Yeah, it's like he's more obsessed with 1058 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: his lord than he is the king. 1059 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. He thinks his lord is like so smart, so noble, 1060 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 2: like so respectub me. 1061 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: Maybe because the king is like further away, so he's 1062 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 1: like can be more critical. But the Lord, he like 1063 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: really does have to like suck his dick and like 1064 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: go dancing with and like eat musty. 1065 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder how much of that is. So 1066 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 2: it's like if anyone ever did find the diary, it 1067 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 2: would actually be worse to be talking shit of imagine 1068 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: the Lord than about the King. 1069 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,800 Speaker 1: Like the Lord would be like you're fired. 1070 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's like he would literally have nowhere 1071 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: to live. 1072 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: But he has shit on the Lord here. 1073 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 2: So right, because the Lord's having an affair, but also 1074 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: the Lord's like wife is having an affair. 1075 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's always been like, well, then I also 1076 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: kissed the Lady of Sandwich. Yeah, and then he's been 1077 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: like she was my lady of Sandwich. You're my lady 1078 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: of Sandwich. I don't know. They're all like Polly at 1079 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: the end of the day. Wait. 1080 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:39,479 Speaker 2: I love this scene where he describes a butterface dined 1081 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: at home and busy again after dinner, and then abroad 1082 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 2: by water to Westminster Hall, where I walked till the 1083 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 2: evening and then out. The first time I effa was 1084 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 2: abroad with Doll Lane to the dog tavern and there 1085 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,240 Speaker 2: drank with her A bad face but good bodied girly. 1086 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: No, he's a horrible face, good body. 1087 00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 2: Wait when he says well carriaged, he means like that's 1088 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 2: what I was thinking. 1089 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 1: He means like garage donk. Well it also because the 1090 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: Betty coats are making the be donk even bigger. 1091 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 2: There's so much like so how can you tell z it? 1092 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: Because the way the bustle moves rocking, it's like making 1093 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: everyone looks a lot right, like those are as like 1094 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: being pushed. 1095 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 2: Ok, we didn't talk about the thing where. 1096 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: He kisses the mummy again knk. 1097 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 2: He's okay. Ecromeniac all right, he is an ecromaniac. Basically, 1098 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 2: he's just like in a crypt at Westminster Abbey and 1099 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 2: there's just like the Queen Catherine of Valois who has 1100 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,240 Speaker 2: been entombed for like two hundred years, and he goes, 1101 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 2: I had the upper part of her body in my hands, 1102 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 2: but I did kiss her mouth, reflecting upon it that 1103 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 2: I did kiss a queen, and that this was my birthday, 1104 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 2: thirty six years old, that I did first kiss a queen. 1105 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: Wait, and by the way, he is thirty six and 1106 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: just being like, you know what I've done a lot. Yeah, 1107 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: I've kissed a queen. I have twenty seven hundred pounds 1108 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,240 Speaker 1: saw Shakespeare this year, hated it into boet on seat. 1109 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: I gotta feel like we're at the same place he is, 1110 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: I know, I think. 1111 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: Because it's like we're not known, but he's not like 1112 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 2: super famous beyond like just his job, like within his 1113 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 2: like professional circles, but like. 1114 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: He's running into people at plays and people are like, 1115 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, I just saw your things. 1116 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and people like, oh my god, you just testified 1117 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 2: like a parliament or whatever, like that was good. 1118 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 1: That was cool, And like you know, they're like inviting 1119 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: him to dinner and we're. 1120 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 2: Doing like kookie stuff like you know that we can 1121 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 2: write home about like. 1122 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: Literally yeah, and it's like that's the thing. He was 1123 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 1: writing this, not because he was getting a published. Like 1124 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 1: right again, our diary may be found in two hundred. 1125 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 2: Years, right, So that's why we need to be more. 1126 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,760 Speaker 2: Trump's assassinated today. 1127 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: Yes, got a sandwich. It was good. Mutton was bad, 1128 00:53:47,239 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: wife was mad. The segments segment what does she eat? 1129 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: What does she how does she live? 1130 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 2: I mean we've discussed a lot about what does she eat? 1131 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: I think it's it's ale in the morning. 1132 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the water of the day and you're 1133 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 2: moving to win so much a lot of fun. He 1134 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 2: is definitely having like three squares a day because I 1135 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 2: feel like sometimes he even goes home for lunch from 1136 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 2: the office, but then it's like also hitting up a 1137 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 2: tabin for some goose. And then it's like always doing supper. 1138 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 2: He's never missing supper. Sometimes after he gets home from 1139 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: another supper. 1140 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah two, because like maybe he'll do like go to 1141 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 1: a tavern. It's kind of like apps and he's being 1142 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 1: a little more like sliders about it. 1143 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,240 Speaker 2: I do want to I feel like he was classic 1144 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 2: like thin until he was forty two and then like 1145 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 2: got a little bit jubby. 1146 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: To me, this face though, is also so like skinny 1147 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: fat guy. Oh yeah, you know what I mean. Like 1148 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: I feel like he's not eating anything in the morning ale, 1149 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: it's just kind of like puffy. 1150 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 2: You don't think he's having some just like the hardest 1151 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 2: bread you've ever had. 1152 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: It may be like the hardest bread in the entire world. 1153 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: But sometimes he's running off and he's like, I didn't 1154 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: have time, and then he's like starving. 1155 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 2: The bread has been adulterated with chalk. 1156 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 1: Chalk bread. He's doing chalk bread. And then like lunch 1157 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: is like marrow goose Mutton, and the night is a 1158 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: little more lobster. Mutton was much lobster, which was interesting 1159 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: because then lobster fell out of fashion. 1160 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,600 Speaker 2: Because lobster used to be a poor man's food, and 1161 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 2: then they rebranded it as luxury, which is crazy. 1162 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're like rats of the Sea. 1163 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 2: Can't wait till they rebrand Tilapia's luxury in ten years. 1164 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,280 Speaker 2: No more lobster crab. 1165 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: We're having like talapia mac and cheese. 1166 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 2: Right, and it's like road and you see it on 1167 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 2: the menu and it's like market price. 1168 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 1: MP Talaia. 1169 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 2: I do you feel like there's that one point where 1170 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 2: he says he went to someone's estate and like he's 1171 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 2: on orange for the first time, and I'm like, okay, 1172 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 2: I feel like they're wanting for citrus over there. 1173 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah there was no acid up in there. 1174 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 2: Yeah they need it for I'm sure they had like plenty. 1175 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: Of salt potatoes. 1176 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,439 Speaker 2: Also britches, gloves, silks, velvet. 1177 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: Silks, amazing pocket watches. He's a watch guy like Rolex, 1178 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 1: let's go vintage. And then he does get wigs. 1179 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that point where he's like I had to 1180 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 2: go to my barbers to pick out all the gnats 1181 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 2: from my wig and there's all this like I mean, 1182 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 2: everything's nasty. There's like larvae in your. 1183 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: Hair when someone's like pulling your wig and it's like disgusting. 1184 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, he loves clothes and he loves silks and like. 1185 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:43,439 Speaker 2: And so how do they live? I actually think they 1186 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 2: are very like silk brocades on the wall and like 1187 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 2: they are little silk couches. And they're doing the house 1188 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 2: every year because you got to give the wife something 1189 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 2: to do. 1190 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: So it's like and I think she's choosing like new 1191 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: gorgeous curtains. 1192 00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're doing hugest bed. 1193 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 1: And I also think like by the bed, like a 1194 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: few nights a week is like a huge basin full 1195 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 1: of vomit. 1196 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 2: For sure, at least once a week he's vomiting in 1197 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 2: the basement. 1198 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: And then there are so many like mirrors because like 1199 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: in dressing. 1200 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:13,920 Speaker 2: Rooms they're small mirrors. 1201 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,839 Speaker 1: And she's like turning side beside being like how does 1202 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: my bustle look? 1203 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 2: At one point he does go get his portrait done 1204 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,880 Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, I feel like it's not gonna 1205 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 2: look like me. 1206 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: He's being actually so you with like a painting. 1207 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 2: With a pain of himself and. 1208 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: Just back to like drinking. Is it like a copper 1209 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: goblet copper for wine and maybe ten for ale. 1210 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 2: I feel like he's way too much of a drunk 1211 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 2: to like be getting a different glass. 1212 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: Okay, it's just one coup. 1213 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 2: It's kind of grabb and go. Yeah, like or he's 1214 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 2: so Stanley cup about it, where he's walking around with 1215 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 2: his big mug all day, like going from tavern to tavern, 1216 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 2: just like filler. 1217 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: Up, putting so many like nastiest charms on it. 1218 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 2: And like having the little like black patches the coach. 1219 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: Everyone's putting their big steins in there. 1220 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: It's jingle jangle, jingle jangle while you're like four fingers 1221 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 2: deep in a wench. I mean, okay, wait, who. 1222 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 1: Are you in the book? I kind of feel like 1223 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: we're both kind of peeps in this way because. 1224 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 2: We are both getting into fights with our wives about 1225 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 2: like them leaving clothes places. 1226 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then like I'm being like Maya, like you 1227 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: bought too much stuff in the real real and then 1228 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to talent and getting so many new shoes 1229 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 1: and so many shirts. Yeah, I'm like projecting my shoppaholicism. 1230 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like my my wife has always been like 1231 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 2: what about this, like house in the Catskills and being 1232 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 2: like with what Monday buys Diesels shirt. So yeah, we're 1233 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 2: both peeps in this way for sure, but then also 1234 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 2: we're just like gossip being at court too. 1235 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: Definitely like Cortissans in the court and like also like 1236 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: maybe like I'm in like a play that he's being 1237 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 1: like that was bad and I'm being so and I'm 1238 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: just like a beggar. 1239 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,959 Speaker 2: I honestly give this book five Yeah, literally like five 1240 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 2: boils out of five coach. 1241 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: Ubers with Stanley's out of five, Like this is unreal. 1242 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: It's the switch literally like this walk so every diary 1243 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: published diary could rock. 1244 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 2: It is one of them, densest every like it takes Bridge, yeah, 1245 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 2: because every single page has so much in. 1246 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 1: It, so much history, but it's so many jokes. 1247 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just funny. It's hilarious and it's so 1248 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 2: deep and you get to see history happening. But he 1249 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 2: like is like we said, it's like he's not this 1250 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,720 Speaker 2: self indulgent bitch with his writing. It's like he's just 1251 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 2: giving you plot plot plot plot plot. 1252 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 1: Here it go bang him out anyway, everyone, Bedside Book. Okay, 1253 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: that's what's perfect is you can just open to an 1254 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 1: entry and be like, oh, he took the coach to 1255 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: Saint James Theater, like you don't have to like start 1256 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: from beginning to end. Okay, guys, well, tally ho. 1257 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Tally, My carriage is here best best. It was dark 1258 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 2: before I could get home, and I land at churchyard stairs, where, 1259 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 2: to my great trouble, I met a dead corpse of 1260 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 2: the plague. The corpse sadly was our producer Darby Masters. 1261 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 2: May she rest in peace. But I thank god I 1262 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 2: was not too much disturbed by it. 1263 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Well, when I woke up this morning, I actually had 1264 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: a pot of chocolate ready made for my morning draft 1265 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: and I shared it with our supervising producer Abu Zafar. 1266 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: He actually got quite sick from the chocolate, and he 1267 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: didn't die, but he was down with a high high 1268 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 1: fever for a couple of days and came right back 1269 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 1: at it. A good glass of ale cured him. Never 1270 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: chocolate again. 1271 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 2: I do hope that he can continue on in his 1272 01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 2: marriage with Lord Chancellor's daughter Henrietta. A fine carriage, young 1273 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 2: girlly she is. 1274 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: This brigade of celebrity book Club was executive produced by 1275 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 1: none other then Queen Christina. 1276 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Everytt our music was composed by the right Honorable Stephen 1277 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 2: Phillips Host who for many many years lived in a 1278 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,920 Speaker 2: very very very small cabin, not very well appointed, but 1279 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 2: was a tremendous talent. Sadly he died of gout and 1280 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 2: no amount of pigeon could save it. 1281 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 1: Actually shocking because he died was only one pence, so 1282 01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: how did he get out? He spent all of his 1283 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 1: money a liver, nail and cheese where which brings me. 1284 01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 1: I had my portrait done the other day by one 1285 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Sir Teddy Blaz. I actually had to pay him twenty 1286 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 1: pence and then my wife said, well, what on I 1287 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: have a portrait? And I said, oh, you old wench okay, 1288 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I'll get you a portrait anyway. He is very fine. 1289 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 1: Find him in town on corner to Studio five on 1290 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 1: Cromwell Street. 1291 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:53,959 Speaker 2: Our previous arrangement at the Royal Navy was endeavored with 1292 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 2: one prologue project, so of course we had quite a 1293 01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 2: row of a shillians and we decided to part ways 1294 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 2: on amicable terms, for which I wish him all the 1295 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 2: best in his travels to the embassy in Tangier. 1296 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Now, if you ought to give us a shilling or 1297 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: two We wouldn't mind because the kingdom is falling. I'll 1298 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: be honest. 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