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Speaker 1: whole summer at your grandma house. I want the blue

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I'm talking about so black. When you

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Speaker 1: out right now that's based on his father's life, Judas

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the process. You know, I know people talk,

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Speaker 1: God created Africans in America, made niggas. We said this

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Speaker 1: the married machine manufacted sho iraq. So wherever that turning

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Speaker 1: to say, okay, d this is this is a phenomenal

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Speaker 1: praise the lower past deminition. Harry Telling put her into

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Speaker 1: the ground. Seeming they called Negro spirituals was a phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: She defined it, so okay, I'm gonna work this number

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Speaker 1: when the song would out and even better water use it.

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Speaker 1: In Chicago, Chairman Frier put his into the ground, he said,

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Speaker 1: he said, I'm gonna define this. Ain't nothing new but

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Speaker 1: us having the organizations. He defined it and said, let

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Speaker 1: me win with certain points of humanity. He put it

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Speaker 1: aside of the forming No Devil Disciples. When they got

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Speaker 1: they came up publishing. We now renown s if you

435
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Speaker 1: know the Black Disciples due to the political excasion, we

436
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Speaker 1: see them champan f Black the party. You've seen the

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Speaker 1: black Stone rangs ta come over Nazionists and standardau of

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Speaker 1: Black Peace donation. He was even able to flip the

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Speaker 1: script as the FBI this is document is a book

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Speaker 1: called up on Madison, Donald John Down Up on Madison,

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Speaker 1: Don't send the fifth Story by John there Rice, where

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Speaker 1: the FBI had told the Vice lords they give him

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Speaker 1: sixteen Street if they start the Black Party for the

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Speaker 1: Free Medical centers City Street. Now, like I said, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe that. Why would the government do this? If

446
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Speaker 1: you believe the government, the man of police wanna start

447
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Speaker 1: crying your community, you believe Don King won'ta stop boxing.

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Speaker 1: It's it's done by design. So he subsequently one of

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Speaker 1: the vice lords to work at the free Medical center

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Speaker 1: and even matter governor's own records. That was what they

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Speaker 1: called a regular They call black and black crime and

452
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Speaker 1: even comedy. Let's how about comedy? People have they think

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Speaker 1: politics just some separate detachment community. It was a It

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Speaker 1: was an atmosphere that up to end it was a

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Speaker 1: different type of athlete. They want to fight about the

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Speaker 1: fighting to get us another quarterback on the field. It

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Speaker 1: was the scriptles flip the scriptles slip. Well, athletes say,

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Speaker 1: I'm hotter. How could I support the movement? It wonder

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Speaker 1: if it won't fifth it won't You only want to

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Speaker 1: one vice versa when you fight to give me a

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Speaker 1: job mom, and I only take the stands with you.

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Speaker 1: Dont with the people. Know what I'm saying. It was

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Speaker 1: an atmosphere with any was up. But you know I'm

464
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Speaker 1: saying with James Brown, who had a totally different song

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Speaker 1: playing there first. Real talk, h Trapp Brown, it's a

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Speaker 1: crown anybody in Lanta potentially what that is? Who's kidding

467
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Speaker 1: from west the West End? Who's locked up right now?

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Speaker 1: No one as the meal Jimmil Lolla mean who just

469
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Speaker 1: they told me the doc going black right as we speak, Rapp,

470
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Speaker 1: But I literally drove down Jane bro Man, you better

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Speaker 1: go back to the studio with the gobbuge, you know

472
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He came back up to him black

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Speaker 1: and proud. He couldn't have pulled us to They pulled

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Speaker 1: in on the rocking with real wite, we draws and

475
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Speaker 1: living in America, you know, saying it was a climb

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Speaker 1: with Marvin Gate was against Barry Gordons. I'm gonna put

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Speaker 1: this song and what's going on whether you like it

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Speaker 1: or not. It was a clian you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: real Marmy Gate, real Tom and this will make these

480
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Speaker 1: can't stick out? Why do you think that even in

481
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Speaker 1: the hip hop industry? You know, say, what what makes

482
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Speaker 1: Nipsey Hustle in the park unique? You know I'm saying this,

483
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Speaker 1: this this ain't the one night standing politics. It transcends

484
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Speaker 1: in the racing. What I'm saying my first been us.

485
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Speaker 1: We're backstage around two thousand and two or twelve, Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little distance from him. I see that,

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Speaker 1: I see the chain, I said, I said down, I said,

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Speaker 1: here we go again. I'm thinking it's during the time

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Speaker 1: that the White Jesus was a big thing. I get

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Speaker 1: close to whoa WHOA hold on this saying this hold

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Speaker 1: on something different. It's Malcolm mix on this chain. I said, Man,

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Speaker 1: you for me with Chamman free Hampton. He said, Chairman

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Speaker 1: free Hampton Jr. What type of man would I be

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Speaker 1: if I know who Champman free Hapther was? This is politics?

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Speaker 1: Does this? Could this? This? This this code in the

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Speaker 1: Jenny Craig commercial. You know I'm saying that before and after.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Up and that's where they

498
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Speaker 1: had to assassinate twenty one year old chairman Fred. That's why,

499
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Speaker 1: that's why had to come at the black and the party.

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Speaker 1: Everything included the kitchen scene real tall because up to

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Speaker 1: any see them between the war and the revolution awards

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Speaker 1: two occupied armies, they suit up and they bowed up

503
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Speaker 1: and they get out to get out a revolution when

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Speaker 1: you gain the mass and participation in the masses of

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Speaker 1: the people. It was a difference of a prostitute on

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Speaker 1: the whole antenna, who chi me and Vietnam prostitutions. It

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Speaker 1: was a bumbo be the vietnamees. Just take the bumbo

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Speaker 1: bees and training to come out of bamboo sticks. It

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Speaker 1: with American soldiers, you know, if they were shooting that

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Speaker 1: bees or the Vietnamese, the prostitutes will saying, y'all taking

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Speaker 1: the American soldiers the bed, I guarantee youre gonna get

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Speaker 1: in the morning. It was a different dynamic, you know

513
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was a climber in the sixties

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Speaker 1: with it, and it was up when you've seen what

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Speaker 1: the Silos crew was due. She was underground. The road

516
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Speaker 1: people they called scorched earth, spray paint a solid come,

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Speaker 1: You're welcome to come out of here. It was a

518
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Speaker 1: climate with Williams the road sending civil diical beings. When

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Speaker 1: the people say in the unjust society on the place

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Speaker 1: for a just man, I'm a paraphrase, a just man

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Speaker 1: or just woman was prison. We were clear. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a climate where you didn't say terms like

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Speaker 1: I'm you want to say, man, you're the Joe got

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Speaker 1: locked up you you would have no reaction the response

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Speaker 1: like what do you do? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You was clear, You'll say the road with polies. The

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Speaker 1: words ain't no wall draws, ain't no wall draws in

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Speaker 1: the wall goes in the wall, gangs. It's wall on

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Speaker 1: us as man as you rep you said, we don't

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Speaker 1: fight back and be definding nothing. That's the reaction every suicide,

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Speaker 1: this climbing right now, this movie. You know I'm saying this,

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Speaker 1: this is, this is this is not a panacel. This

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Speaker 1: is not an end all. However, look at the type

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Speaker 1: of discussions is happening. Now, look at I'll show what

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Speaker 1: this kid other day of the studio. He do what

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Speaker 1: we call up a bunch intellectual masturbation. Well the movie

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Speaker 1: should have said this. We we just say it that.

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Speaker 1: They they said, man, it went no no cloak and

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Speaker 1: dag a figure. They're telling you point directly, Jack, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean the billy holiday movie

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Speaker 1: lands not you know what I'm saying. The different dynamics

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Speaker 1: is showing you has in pacts of everyday life. The captain.

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Speaker 1: That term of quarantine, a pro counter and taligence program.

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Speaker 1: Not the Organs say just pull yourself out the bootstraps.

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Speaker 1: Don't we do what we do. We ain't rib nobody else.

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Speaker 1: That's bad, that's nonsense. It's a warping ways on us.

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Speaker 1: See you impacted. You know what I'm saying. You can't

548
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Speaker 1: discussion a people other other black organizations. Other people can't

549
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Speaker 1: understand where we go through. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: See Billy Holiday in a different dynamic. The elefis er.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. She won't target because no dope.

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Speaker 1: See you put in context the dope that was common

553
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Speaker 1: back then. But she was targeted because of her position.

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Speaker 1: He stands. You know what I'm saying. The black people

555
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Speaker 1: said were the black the party just faded away because

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Speaker 1: they had issues with gender. You tube with an organization

557
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Speaker 1: then at a time where people didn't know if you

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Speaker 1: know Pat Nixon was that was Richard Millhouse Nicks's wife.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even know if she could even she was

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Speaker 1: even able to speak. I mean literally, the blacker the

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Speaker 1: party had women in leadership, breaking Rick Johnson that was

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Speaker 1: just chaman friends white. That was his comrade, she's ranking five.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Finance Committee on the Lieutenant Barbara Sank the

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Speaker 1: Finance Committee. Uh, nipcy Hustle, excuse me, Ncy Russell, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: Nipsey Russell, the community. Nsy Russell. I told him if

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Speaker 1: I told about this here. Mr Russell made a joke

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Speaker 1: about this. He said he first when he met my mother,

568
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Speaker 1: mother to be, he said, she's got seven months pregnant.

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Speaker 1: He cannot added on to submit, you know, tied into

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Speaker 1: and s even comedy is political. Nip Mr Russell say

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Speaker 1: he comes to that she's seven half months pregnant. She

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Speaker 1: welcome to comes to meet him aft to the show.

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Speaker 1: She got these bullets banning leers across her chest. He said.

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Speaker 1: She told my donators this money to Black Panther place.

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Speaker 1: I ain't give no money. I ain't even run, no

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Speaker 1: money for no guns. He said, if I went the

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Speaker 1: next day to put an envelope on the door for

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Speaker 1: the Black Panther Party Free birthast program, tell me about

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Speaker 1: that free breakfast program, because that's one of the most

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Speaker 1: notable notable and you actually there as you know, the

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Speaker 1: Black the Free Breast program, and and it was it

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Speaker 1: was one of the it. It was one of the

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Speaker 1: genius um programs or the Black the Party politicis like

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Speaker 1: real estate time and like even to hit you in

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Speaker 1: the morning, to hit you like you have a different

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Speaker 1: story about our people like Malcolm mex would then packed

587
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Speaker 1: him in sixth grade to hit certainly like our community.

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00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Like you know, first of all, it was me purpose

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Speaker 1: with this. We damaged goods, all of us people. We

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Speaker 1: damaged goods. But a lot of people don't understand who

591
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Speaker 1: damaged them. You know what I'm saying. People think black

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Speaker 1: men done it, black women done it. I know who

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Speaker 1: damage is. I know who the wh coach pep played

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Speaker 1: all he come even blame the government black and says

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Speaker 1: and we do and we do this. Everything you telle

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Speaker 1: into got it got pig hoofprints on it somewhere. Believe me.

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Speaker 1: The purpose program, the time and the platform, the people

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Speaker 1: you're coming there. It was a program for the people,

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Speaker 1: the black and the Party. Seeing that our children in

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Speaker 1: particularly going to school and their graves were not up

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Speaker 1: to par, they had to call for no colonel commission,

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Speaker 1: no study, you know what I'm saying. And people say, say, man,

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Speaker 1: anybody that's going to school, it's hungry it's hard to do.

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Speaker 1: An addition problem hard to doing. Send about nowns and

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Speaker 1: you know I'm saying pronouns. They just didn't do what

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Speaker 1: Oh there's you know, man, it's wrong with the system doing.

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00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: They put programs, certainly put programs and it wasn't programs

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Speaker 1: like engaging they're gonna save you. They put the programs

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Speaker 1: out and the people themselves will come on and stop

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Speaker 1: supporting and engaging the program. Champion c Stephen Biko. Only

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Speaker 1: Stephen Biko was in the Black Conscious movement. In fact,

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Speaker 1: is the movie called craft Freedom they watch them portrays him.

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Speaker 1: Chairman Fred Steven Viko says Black people in particular must

614
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Speaker 1: distinguished intelligence from the ability to articulate big difference. Black

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Speaker 1: people in particular must grasp the ability to distinguish intelligence

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Speaker 1: from the ability to articulate. What that means is. They

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Speaker 1: give us a whole lot time. They give our commented

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of intellectual monkeys through a bunch of

619
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Speaker 1: fancy words and terms. But you know they ain't no

620
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Speaker 1: common sense to it. The people are very intelligent. Chairman

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Speaker 1: Freders say, the Black Other Party have a free brigst program.

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Speaker 1: The police pull up on them. They say hey, are

623
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Speaker 1: you for capitalism? So say whoa whoa No, No, Chairman Frisson,

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Speaker 1: that's not cool. Police said what about socialisms? And say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I really can't debate with those words

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Speaker 1: and terms. And then police said what about this free

627
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Speaker 1: birkst program, So they did this was feeding my babies.

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Speaker 1: If you're ten the mesical, we'll put your brains out.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The people are very intelligent,

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Speaker 1: but I thought we get intelligence messed up with the

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Speaker 1: ability to articulate. You can't black and play three breakfast program.

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Speaker 1: The only prerecords, the only criteria was that you hoary you.

633
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Everybody said why your last name different your dad last name?

634
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. None of that was necessary.

635
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: Atilid record talk about her book and solid to my

636
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: it was a young brother in the Birkast program and

637
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: stuff and some pancakes and Hall of New Hall of

638
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: Branch in his pocket, and she said, brother, you can

639
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: never steal from this this Joe program. You know what

640
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. See we up the air is then between

641
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: rioting and rebelling, still in operating. See turned is our point.

642
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: So it wasn't no charity and for you know what,

643
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: the black people start running these programs. You know what

644
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We are on a lot of organizations. I'd

645
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: individually tell you you didn't come back and check in

646
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: with them, even if you said that there's a difference

647
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: in of revolutionary and the hero. A hero does something

648
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: to say wow, that's that's that's crazy. I can't do

649
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: that because you know what I'm saying. But a revolution

650
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: didn't say mad I can relate to that. I can

651
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: pick it up and that that that that assists with

652
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: our security because they said we knocked him off. It's

653
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: it's going on and on, you know what I'm saying. Right, So,

654
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: let me ask you about the movie a little bit.

655
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: What are something before we even you know, get into it.

656
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: What are some of the things that you saw them

657
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: do right with this with the movie? Hmm? What some

658
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: of the parts that you were impressed back? You know,

659
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: we had a lot of struggles. Let me let me

660
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: let me say this that was something like even something

661
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: There were certain things that could not be said because

662
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: we had a time in space, because I could say,

663
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: couldn't this movie tell us all what the Black Panther

664
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: party was? I said, you can't put no shock and

665
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: no fish tank. You know, it's a movie. And also

666
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: in the movie industry they call a period peace period pieces.

667
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: You don't saying everything that beyond point from what coca

668
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: cola can you have around? You know what, I'm saying

669
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: that there be a period of time. Also, this is

670
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: what we call a relevant peace. In other words, were

671
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: still are dealing with these issues. We still have Jerry

672
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: old Dinger done again prison number see dash O one

673
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: eight five nine, still locked up, directly impacted by William O'Neil.

674
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: We still have brother Griggs, Griggs who was an electric

675
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: shock by William o neil the tour. It's still the

676
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: verdict is not out. And also William was not the

677
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: only focker tour. So you gotta be real careful and

678
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: how we bring out to a certain contradictions. You know what,

679
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: When I'm saying, so it was certain let's go to

680
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: the meeting, we had to put the certain things to say,

681
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: hold on that organisition, actual organisition could not be depicted

682
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: because the movie would be incapable of expressing the details

683
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: of that meeting. And I you know, and I recall saying,

684
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, like at the particular meeting that some you're

685
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna keep it mad that we impacted by this system

686
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: and with a sister going in at that meeting, you know,

687
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: with the party can be like the front to this

688
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: other organization. So you know, um nine just nine and

689
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: others Childs and others Ryan we we we sent out

690
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: chaka real Bursons will be back and forth and subsequently

691
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: that that that party played out and I'm glad about that.

692
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad that that that that that that stayed with

693
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: it because something I ain't told my mother one time.

694
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: So you know what, maybe we men, you're a kind

695
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: of subjective things that I take for granted. People know

696
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: or have examples of. They don't know a lot of

697
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: people never seen the gender contradiction. Me and women worked

698
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: together with I have in a relationship. It's mad blown

699
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: to me. You know what. You what I'm saying, seeing

700
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: revolution you they have to be in a foxhold with

701
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: the system. You know, you know what I'm saying. And

702
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: you can see it with the state. You see like

703
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: you watch movies called blue blood. The TV shows are

704
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: blue blood. You don't you see the police said, okay,

705
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: you're you're riding in the patrol car with that person nothing.

706
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: Your mind does an automatic go to, Oh, they're fooling

707
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: around when it comes to our people. You know what

708
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we can even fathom an organism obstructed organization

709
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: dealing with each other. You know, I'm saying instructured what

710
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying with a presciple. So that was a good

711
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: That was one of the good points. You know. I'm

712
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: saying also, um one of the shooting a window with

713
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: the police, that that seemed we actually get back and

714
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: forth about because in this thing you had to shoot

715
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: the first you know, I'm saying, we say hold on

716
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: came because man, the first name for the Black Panther

717
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: Party was the Black Panther Party for self defense. That's

718
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: important to put in context because see, when the police

719
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: beat you, they're trained to say stop resistance, even you

720
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: be confused and tell you, like Dawn, he beat me down.

721
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But with the politics of it,

722
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: they're saying stoppings, instant on the door says serving with tech.

723
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: You know, I know I've just seen it with their

724
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: knee on the necklace George Floyd, and I know I've

725
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: seen Derek Chauvin killing this man. But that that that

726
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: that the servant. But tech kind of kind of confuses me.

727
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, see everything political, you know

728
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, not just the schools. And you if

729
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: you google, if you google, say police killed somebody, you

730
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: can't find it. You would say you can find um

731
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: George Floyd passed away as a result or so, you know,

732
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's never saying straight up murder.

733
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It packed you differently. You

734
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Now you can find uh leg

735
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: killed such and such. You know you find that, you

736
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it packed you how you

737
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: even view the police, you know what I'm saying. So

738
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: even the imagery I was showing that the police were

739
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: attacking a party. You had three major, three major shooting

740
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: attacks from a black panther part of the headquarters, and

741
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: I just see you die. That scene was depicting the

742
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: last thirty first ninety Champi Frey was locked up at

743
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: that time and Chicogo police is attacking the black pants

744
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: by the headquarters. They would come in, they would burn

745
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: the breakfast program supplies, you name it. But that that

746
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: attack they were it's important to put out that they

747
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: were attacked. And if you said it doesn't make a

748
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: differentig difference, it doesn't. There gonna be difference. You know

749
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They were defending themselves, Spurge and Jake Winners,

750
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: that's who chimp Fair wanted to be named. That the

751
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: defending themselves. So we think we just reaction there, you

752
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And if you want, you want

753
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: to be corrected by this whole discussion anything that we do,

754
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: even if we think it's reaction there, we not. People say, man,

755
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: I know you're tripping man police kids, your daddy. No

756
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: this synthe made you first blood it but got my mother,

757
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: my mother's stomach. That's the predator, cay I got When

758
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: no Dr stephars Co placed on the predator, can I

759
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: get with Chicago poeties? The proper revolved with place on

760
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 1: hr stomach. This said, first of all, all black people

761
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: should get a uh no no no no um no

762
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: uh they no, um they called it a ward. Um

763
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: they said, um uh no real peace prize, oh flat

764
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: get no peace in the fact that we snapped out,

765
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: you know, just the same babies like real talk. He's

766
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: come to the Monster May Peace Prize. You know what

767
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying to put in the historical context, but also

768
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: this is an organization today. Get up in the morning,

769
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: I figure, how we're gonna shoot out the police day

770
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: in the morning. How we're gonna feed you study fact

771
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: on the childe in the week in Chicago? How minister

772
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: doc the amalants working in a free medical center, how're

773
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: you going to do the second seal memia testing. That

774
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: was the motivation for the program. You know, I'm saying

775
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: they were attacked and they defending themselves and it definitely

776
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: missed if help Ronald Doc Sachel said, yeah, we are.

777
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: We are propaganda unit. And see a lot of boats.

778
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: Counter fit individuals. They jumped up. They just they wro

779
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: MANI sage revolution. She left the Jackson raised whatever you

780
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: don't say see minutes Europe Knew said that we must

781
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: even politicize the gun. One makes our gun different the

782
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: police gun. We had a situation in Flint, Michigan, so

783
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: weak on the people with the water, the Chevil biological

784
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: war fin the water we designated. I choose to go

785
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: down to the Black count Party Club caravan, That's what

786
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: it was called. Before they went down there. We had

787
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: a political education. In fact, I definitely Fieldballs, That's who

788
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: led the delegation down there. We got down there were

789
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: at the water. Now the National Guard they have more

790
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: water than us. We made out water different the National Guard.

791
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: I said, we don't make it differ. Don't we get water,

792
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: not the politics. So National Guard, let's get your name,

793
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: let's get this here, and they don't. You've seen the

794
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: warrants coming down for people tomorrow with your immigration status.

795
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: If you're a warman, you don't say, see everything is political.

796
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: We get the water. Then those strings attached. It's political

797
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: the Burgers program see the seas doctor say, I don't

798
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: hear the political stove uniculy. See others in the IA

799
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: saying in the sixties Niggers needed nixing, nixing their force

800
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: caster come of grips with the politics. See other the

801
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: climative Richard uh John F. Kennedy Samet John F. Kennedy,

802
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: the same President John OF Kennedy that was at the

803
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: end of that movie, that Billy Holiday movie giving an

804
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: award actually cause the FBI agent they the attacked Billy Holliday,

805
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 1: the same John F. Kennedy that had it was possible

806
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: Army takes going through South suthe of Chicago, Detroit, Michigan.

807
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: Same johnal Kenny on this tenure there was assassinsittim at

808
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: the assassin densitive on coming that the Fidel Castro. Same

809
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: John Kennedy was the respond for the Peace Corps. But

810
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: it was a class piece. The same Jiller Kenny that

811
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: told his brother Robert F. Kennedy, Robert Kin you authoriped

812
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: the wiretap on Dr King Nick supporter covers. I was saying, man,

813
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: did you said man? Campaign for long on? It's going down?

814
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's not that we're

815
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: a clown. We call a reactionary climbing now at least

816
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: acknowledge it like you on the trumpand mininistration. Ain't know.

817
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: I ain't pushing for no Trump thing, but it was

818
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: acknowledgement pot for you. You know what I think you

819
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: because I have a degree, I'm a virgo. No Trumps

820
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: is all black? You black? When in Puerto Rico we

821
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: through the tortis all the same. To so these contradictions

822
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: at times, people can come to him under reaction every turn.

823
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. In the vanguard party gotta

824
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: be consisting we had a chapter down here that about

825
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Cubs for different reasons had to be

826
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: he had to be pulled back timing. You know what

827
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like this is like a relationships like man

828
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: that was a good sister. I wish I could have

829
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: opened the mature. You could have worked it out so

830
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: the claim see our own body cubs, we were like

831
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: the lands Cough alcohol people there hears they don't when

832
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: it's they're they're go drinks chopped in champagne. But it's

833
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: at the end with the footing they back to points said, man,

834
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: who is that hustm cant been serving y'all all the time.

835
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: It's not popular, is not fashionable? Telling about the Hampton

836
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: House they hap to downs that's a childhood On was

837
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: chairman well before he was chairman. The house he grew

838
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: up in. That's the house and you know saying which

839
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: we didn't found this code there. That's the house in

840
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: which um across the street is the elementary school and

841
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: elementary who he went to. We know, saying we had

842
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: to go do damage control before we fought to take

843
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: the Hampton House. On I was in West Oakland. Ironical

844
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: Brothers just walked in. He said Oakland and he said Oakland.

845
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: He said, he say said he said West Oakland and

846
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: that that was significantly. He said that that was that

847
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: was the area Whennis if you do the hard with

848
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: the first left by the headques that that's where the

849
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: government salted the earth that they pushed the drugs at.

850
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. The west side of Chicago

851
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: they put they flushed it there. You know what I'm saying.

852
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: In the Hampton House, they tried to with them. I

853
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: try to put certain kists in the hustle. We had

854
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: to go clean house. You said, man, Now on my watch,

855
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: the children that went to the school at Irvin, a

856
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: lot of the children even know who champ of Fred was.

857
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: And one time the principal was related to me was

858
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: black by the party in okids because like how they

859
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: don't know. We heightened the consciousness of the cats. It

860
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: was jokes made about the childes. They said they gotta

861
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: get different schurch sizes. They chested off being they said, man,

862
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: we go if they were debating with each other. Is

863
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: that the desk that he set in It changed the atmosphere.

864
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: We had partner in the Champman fred Hampton Park down

865
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: the street. Our programs, the Triple CS children Community because

866
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: you come to free the food right there, you know,

867
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: to the recordator, to the Black Party free program, the

868
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: Freedom All Radio. We have every winsday. This holds about

869
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: me Champman fram Junior in the Lady of Rage. Somebody'll

870
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: probably knows, uh, Baby D and Friday Everywhein's tune in

871
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: everywhere in frem Al Radio, freem Al Radio because back

872
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: Chairman Free Hampton Junior, Lady Raged, Baby D Robin Allen.

873
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: This every win six d pm. You can Google, pull

874
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: it up, ask Serrie about it. You know what I'm saying.

875
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: So this is every wednsday like clockwork. These are programs

876
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: come right about the Hampton House. And this is a significant.

877
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: This is the see locations are significant. It was strategic

878
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: when Napoleon came through Egypt. You see twenty one goes

879
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: not that knows of their sphinx. You know what I'm saying.

880
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: The house that was just the house to which he

881
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: grew up in. So it's it's it's it's it's it's

882
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: an around build. You don't see me there. I said that.

883
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: To this day sometime we brainstorm you know I'm saying,

884
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: and we didn't get all. We did that because t

885
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: WL the World's finance. They was intol with each other

886
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: out there. They want to do a video shoot. That's all.

887
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: Come on to talk. You could be the studio out

888
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: there right now. Let's come on to the happy House.

889
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: They can't. They called it the vortex, one the coldest

890
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: days in Chicago history. I said, now we're going to

891
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: the Cook County jail and gonna we're gonna meet these

892
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: cats up, you know, saying they met the cats come

893
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: out of jail. That's their video. The worlds fans called

894
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: free them all. You know what I'm saying. And I

895
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: want to make bring I acknowledge I get some forces

896
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: to see with me to day too, because we did

897
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: for some all walks of life. You know what I'm saying,

898
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: even get uh the videos, free them all too. But nephew,

899
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: don pete. You know, so we had a video with

900
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: the video shoot right there, the happon the house. You

901
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: Know'm saying, get the brother Robert money, chill and love

902
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: movement because see that cats be like man the revolution.

903
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: Everybody get the suite that they suited them, booty and

904
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: just everybody what they called the quote unquote conscious community.

905
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: We did the people you know, saying like whack came

906
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: in Chicago one time. So I walk up to him,

907
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: he said, he said, whoa, whoa, So I heard you

908
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: be here. He said, are you coming? He said one second.

909
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: So the brother behind and say, man, this is just

910
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: one years back. He says, your brother right, here's your

911
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: brother came some big deep man. You know what you said.

912
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: They told me you will be approaching because this thing

913
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: we got called the code of culture blacking, the party,

914
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: cult of cob We we all cats accountable. You said

915
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: to men of us, the same thing for Kenny blame blame,

916
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: you know. So we you on Dave Speil Block Park.

917
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: That's that's on the stage. I ain't saiding my homie.

918
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm to our political prisoners. You go check it out.

919
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We know every every know

920
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: nothing move. We get the education ethic, making a school,

921
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: making a class project to talk about moving up with

922
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: Jamal said, the uh toxic waste. Uh San Francisco. You

923
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We said, Harry, tellmy cole what

924
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: that means. You get out the jail reached back to others.

925
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: We are capital. So then big the we're talking. He said, Man,

926
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: it's a joint called Adriana's Chicago. So we joined that night,

927
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: he said. Man said, cham how you be uh going backstage?

928
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: And then we just different artists, you know, I said,

929
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: I just can't drink no our caa fina water. Man.

930
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: I gotta do the good, the bad and ugly. You

931
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying a lot of people did with

932
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: this was set conditions they did with Robert Rouge or orders.

933
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: That's how you have a meeting. A lot of you,

934
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, they came and stay chairman because they have

935
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: been state trained and state made, you know, saying I'm

936
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: locked up in joy this oldys asked me, is your

937
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: organistan sactions? No, I'm proud about it. You know what

938
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Stop. Dr said, because I want to run

939
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: for officers in Chicago. I said, they can't make me,

940
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: they can't break me. You know what I'm saying, I'm chairman,

941
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: freed Hempton. See, that's it's empowering. Bernie burned that definitely

942
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: Irish Republic Army. She said, I remember this is Iroland.

943
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: She bared for the United States. She's the all right,

944
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: She said, I he used a baby. I remember he

945
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: was a baby, had a necklace on your neck was

946
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: a bullet around it. She's I remember the midst of Health,

947
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: Doc sache. She was the Minister of Health. Not because

948
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: the c d C said it black, the party said.

949
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was a chairman of

950
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: black in the party because Mary Danny said, because the

951
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: people said Debrad Johnson was his whitest comrade. See a

952
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: lot of people came in on to Oliver Stone said, man, uh,

953
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: you think the government killed Kennedy. I think so. Malcolm

954
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: told you when it first went down who did it?

955
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: But we can't believe it. You know, before this movie

956
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: came out, my plan was give me a white puppet

957
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: and going to it and just start saying, listen, man, man,

958
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: you heard what that puppet said. We can't believe nothing.

959
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This movie has helped the conversation. Man. Yeah,

960
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: So I was telling the guy, Okay, let's make sure

961
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to cut you off. What I was saying.

962
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to get something, don't curfew. I just wanted

963
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: to get some more your reactions to actual film before

964
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: we bring something. I know you brought the family. Ain't movie.

965
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: I ain't seen the movie yet. Okay, well, goddamn it

966
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: I got. Don't check it out before they bad, before

967
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: they're bad. Listen about it. Don't sit and listen, man, listen, listen.

968
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: What we did is we put some path of cub

969
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: political pills in the alpha sauce. It's certain things that

970
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: we put in that. You know what I'm saying. Wherever

971
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: that tunnel was going on the tour, the lady on

972
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: the plantation, her brother said, man, hold on, man, dude stop.

973
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: What did you let dude go speak around for? She said,

974
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: he just repreached a good word. He said, No, it's

975
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: a different dynamics going on here. You know what I'm

976
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: saying this. So you look at the outter effect. You

977
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this, This this is that's a guy.

978
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: It's a guy named Marston to my mother house, were

979
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: staying and joining my life. He stayed there. This got

980
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: new me since about three years old. He would it

981
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: would be issues with him and his lady at the house.

982
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: State next though, they're getting into it. Police come over there.

983
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: But all you hit the police and they walking talkis

984
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: you better Hampton House even before it happen yet, And

985
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: I will tell you. I said, man, listen, man, it's

986
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: not about you. Why do you think fifteen police cars

987
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: public for domestic cames with you? Oh? Man? You know

988
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't play. You don't see flatting itself. It really

989
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: the targets this here. It took this movie film finally

990
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: said I see why you would band me from the block.

991
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: You don't say I say, man, you're a security rich jack.

992
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Dr You don't even this

993
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: class lot people even know the danger that they do.

994
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, See, it's an arrogance. I

995
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: am a problem with ignorance. Will issue with arrogance and ignorance.

996
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, a lot of people do

997
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: with subjectivity. The world revolves around them. We did with

998
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: dialectical materialism and your accent impact other people's actions on

999
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: this movie is a man man catches. There's certain things

1000
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: that's in there, this couch, the well. I didn't like

1001
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: this and that one brother called called me, say why

1002
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: I wish the movie to talk about Chairman Freds international impact.

1003
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: I see massive let's be let's let's type of honest discussion. Bro,

1004
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: You're the same one. You do independent movies in Chicago

1005
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: on your own volition. You did a whole movie about

1006
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: President Obama. When I ask you to do a snippet

1007
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: about Chamon Frazer, Man, I ain't touching that. Let's to

1008
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: be your front about this is what I'm saying. This

1009
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: ain't no safe subject. Man. There's a reason we know

1010
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: what we don't we talk. We know what to talk

1011
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: about in school. We all supposed to be a further

1012
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 1: We don't have to say it. I'll wrap songs, you

1013
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's certain things we have

1014
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: put in there. You know I'm saying. I can't even

1015
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: see it coming. You know what I'm saying, And I

1016
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: gotta deal with all the lasting was up here a

1017
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: few months back. It's cut up you black youngster. He

1018
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: comes to that. You go downstairs. So like I'm in

1019
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: some of the gay studio. He is the champing fraid

1020
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: you you're going down there. They no doubt about it

1021
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: because the smoking Air Thact. You know what I'm saying,

1022
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: I'm studying the people. I'm gonna serve to the people.

1023
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: It ain't about me, you know what I'm saying that

1024
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: you have the woman. What you do when you do

1025
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: for a child, you should get a different asset what

1026
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: I would do, what I do for the people. You

1027
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: don't say that different dynamics. So we get out now

1028
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: and said that that's all one. Put that political peeling now,

1029
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: like cat Man, you talk, you're dealing with this. Get

1030
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: this is here, man before I get back to Chicago

1031
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: that night, then said man called man Chairman. We heard

1032
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 1: that because many, as you repin, our people do not

1033
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: read as much as we like for them to read.

1034
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: So we gotta be innovative without tactics. You know what

1035
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Sets, get stuff laid out there, Tom here

1036
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: you go, bam. This is your organization, that's your funding,

1037
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: that's this, that's you nine the five getting you cluck out,

1038
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: not us, not us. Do whatever surprised you when like

1039
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: the newer rappers of the younger generation of rappers reached

1040
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: out to you to get some game on an album

1041
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: or get your slat on the tape or whatever like that.

1042
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: I'm encouraged back because the deal is, it's a climate.

1043
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: Because the deal is, their fear has been passed down.

1044
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: It's a climate where even let's go with that things.

1045
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: Let's go to the scenaria just laid out to you.

1046
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: The movement has been giving a white eye. It's been given,

1047
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: it's been it's been told like an elitism, like you came.

1048
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: If you do this, you can't involved in the store

1049
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: kept back ups to the situation. I just sitting down

1050
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: on even a family said you know what, man, I

1051
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: don't even wanna smoke around you at first, he said, man,

1052
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: but you you you you you want usk you with

1053
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: the people. Man, just what he said. And so we

1054
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: had pulled a piece off I did with face, pulling

1055
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: those coffees, getto boys, pulled it up, pleas go never remix,

1056
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: he said, Man, you seen you see the remixing? You

1057
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: say off the the last car paxed me? M did?

1058
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,720
Speaker 1: I ain't seen that remixed to me? M did shore

1059
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: fun with it? So black? You say? He said, Oh,

1060
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: what you're doing? You're speaking on that said? I said,

1061
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: no spending this year. He said, do with me. Then

1062
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: you said the word depend It tied in, you know,

1063
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: saying season of time. Because there is there's documents for

1064
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: Gift Route Revolution. Perfect allies. You know what I'm saying.

1065
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: But we we see like a gardener. We studied the ground,

1066
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, saying the term see the time. But okay,

1067
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: locking load go, it's moves that we had plans do

1068
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: that here in this ly I went through the process

1069
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: like CAST. They thought they the black panther party. Well

1070
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't tell the smart cat nothing because

1071
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: all I know, I know on a week out before

1072
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: we put the town. Oh man, they they counsel this defense,

1073
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: so I know, I know that I'm used to it.

1074
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't take it personal. So on a pivot stick

1075
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: and moved. That's how we moved. CAST used to be

1076
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: in the season's palace referees, rules and regulations. This is

1077
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: they didn't know rules regulation to us. They're coming in

1078
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: four third in the morning, blasting. They put sick and

1079
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: on knockout droves to the cool aid. That's what I'm saying.

1080
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: They put Asian bocca tools, A lot of cats are

1081
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: and the other arenas. It's okay, do how we go

1082
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: just legal, We're gonna do this. You're gonna b lock

1083
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: you up. You know you have a bail. But then

1084
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: they didn't dealingm like that with us. Man. That's that's

1085
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: that's the reality. So I pivot. I still moved. I hate.

1086
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: I hate my office was my office the streets. I

1087
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: touched down. My brother da't escape gold. You want playing

1088
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: for me him to meet chaut out to escape. I

1089
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: touched down with it. I'll tell you down these duss

1090
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: at Morris Brown College is don't do anything there, cats

1091
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: like man hold on when you at this damn dayn

1092
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: we get down. I want to fight for the luxury

1093
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: to have that space in the arena. We can move

1094
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: on on terms, but I mean not that people ask

1095
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: me how many members do you have your organization, not

1096
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: on how many people. Policies that murdered people get involved

1097
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: in struggle one. Three ways inspiration, aspirational, desperation. See you're

1098
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: in the Fieldmaster George Jackson. Field Master George Jackson born

1099
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: in West As, Chicago, organ for novel It was mandatory

1100
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: you get locked up. You you gotta know who this

1101
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: was Field Marster for the Black Panther Party, San Quentinny

1102
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Field Marster George's book called Son of Dad Brother. I

1103
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: recommend your checkout and also blurred in my eye check

1104
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: it out. He organized had the joint minister you he

1105
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: didn't heard about him when he's locked up. They know

1106
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: he's sanction to be Field Marster for the Black Panther Party.

1107
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: He politicized his younger brother, Jonathan Jackson through the letters.

1108
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jackson came up in the courtroom, Mary County courtroom.

1109
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: That's where the dogs, song ushould want them in the courtroom.

1110
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: Get down. That's what we're referencing. I'm sure you heard

1111
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: as the Davis Jonathan Jackson, this is the case, the

1112
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: cases she has, they said, the weapons that he had

1113
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: was in her name. Johnathan Jackson w was the Mary

1114
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: County courtroom, Rochells and get up in the court Marrion County.

1115
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: They he judge. He duct take the shotgun to his

1116
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: neck and say, man, gentlemen, I'll be taking over from here.

1117
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: So we're going to the radio station. Sixteen seventeen years old,

1118
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen years old, say Jim, I'll be taking over here.

1119
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: We're going to the radio the broadcast of the world.

1120
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,760
Speaker 1: What's happened up inside these concentration camps? I said again,

1121
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: sixteen seventy years old. Came out the court room. They

1122
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna down man with chefs and q McGee and still

1123
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: locked up right now as we speak. One of the

1124
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: longest the political prisoners. William Crystal, John McClain held captain.

1125
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: They gonna, they're gonna Jonathan Jackson down. They referred him

1126
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: as a young man child because you don't say it

1127
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: was a different definition. It's August seven, nineteen seventy August

1128
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: twenty one, nineteen seventy one, Field Marster, George Jackson and

1129
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: Saint Quentney was assassinating set Quentin prison yard to go

1130
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: for the funeral service and for films. George jack minutes you.

1131
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: He came up in there. He said, man, him and

1132
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: the chiming Bobby Cell. There's a people say, man, female,

1133
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: George Jackson, don brno flowers bringing shotguns to my funeral.

1134
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: This man, they still took women to prison. The prison

1135
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: records right now, this this was how you refer to

1136
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: the stumping ground san quity. This should be mandatory. See

1137
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: I told the Johnson one time. I see y'all got

1138
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: all these Luciano alcopol I could go for if you

1139
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: had nothing else. I'm doing real models on the road, models,

1140
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: real people that come from my community. Man, you know

1141
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: they can relate to us. Man. He was giving a

1142
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: sentence for one to life up a person that they

1143
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: said us up. Man. This cat was doing ten pushop

1144
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: to him. The solid thing this cat here. Man, Man,

1145
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: they target this cat. Check him out, man, sell this

1146
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: to the sell stum sales itself. Man, you know saying

1147
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: real talking man, you get talking. I I can't cut

1148
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: him out. Welcome back today to South Show. Man. I

1149
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: ain't learning god, man, say I look checking this out. Man.

1150
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna leave that as part one and we're gonna

1151
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: bring fort do when they bring some of the some

1152
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: of the conversations. So of course, so I know you're

1153
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: saying you cook, you cook, So like, how is it

1154
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: broken down? I know you about the third part of

1155
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: generation of the whole situation because I know me lately,

1156
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: I've been getting into my spiritual journey and uh, I've

1157
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: been getting into my books and I've been being directed

1158
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: to some of you guys. Is you know what I'm

1159
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: saying stances, I'm kind of more so for the people

1160
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: as well. So when I'm here you speak, I'm more

1161
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: so like fucking right him. Yeah, you think what I'm saying.

1162
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: So it's like, when was that moment when you realize

1163
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: this is what I gotta do throughout my life. I

1164
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: felt this right, you know. And I was talking to

1165
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: earlier even hunt I speak, I alreadycalled when I speak,

1166
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: like hold my hands down. Who's like in second nature?

1167
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: Move my hands? And I've seen footage of him chairman

1168
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: Fred speaking moving his as Oh man, it's the business.

1169
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: And you know and um, but I was deprived. It

1170
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: was a just been suspendingful school was just talking about

1171
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And um, I had a

1172
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: I was a proud of the political assessment analysis. What

1173
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: happened to the Black Power movement? People say, well, the

1174
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: movie just died away. No, No, it was military defeated.

1175
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: Iologically it won. That means that to this day people

1176
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: have a little emercial part and we have to fight,

1177
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: were still to fight with their legacy. You know, you

1178
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: have a real care for with this legacy. Man, it's

1179
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: a man A lot of attempts to co opt it,

1180
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: water down, you know, saying the black the Cubs don't

1181
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: mean it were some young cats. Man, We're the ideological

1182
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: offspring in the Black Panther Party. You know what I'm saying,

1183
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: This is this, This is it. Man. You're saying, I

1184
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: don't know how long we're gonna be around, but we

1185
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: we attempted to walk in there, not their footsteps, but

1186
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: their panther pole steps. Our progress and be correlated to that,

1187
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And all you don't say,

1188
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: I'll be doing interviews with people right and see that

1189
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: times you don't be questions to be commentaries. But that's

1190
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: really nice. You know this is no slight nobody black lives.

1191
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Now I said, what part did I say that? I said,

1192
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: Black Panther Party comes. See narrative seen narratives like um

1193
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: uh you know the words giving you It was just

1194
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,479
Speaker 1: you know, slight you not. That's your cup of teams,

1195
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: so be it. But then Park needed this hip man,

1196
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: this this this, this, this cloth the Black Panther Party.

1197
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: Could you know what I'm saying that that's our logo

1198
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: right there, man, that's it. That's it. That's our logo. Man.

1199
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We have ideology. It's where

1200
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: we walk, it's where we talk. You don't say it's

1201
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: our dialogues a term they say in church what show

1202
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: called it's our coloning. You know what I'm saying. And

1203
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: see it's a structure, checks and balances. You know what

1204
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying that see contradictions. N U U people say

1205
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: contradictions are the ruling principle of the universe. They get

1206
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: us scared. They knowledge contracdutions. Oh man, were not all

1207
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: the same? We were scooting, were all the same? This man, No,

1208
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: no communities like that. With the American Revolution, they tell

1209
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: you everybody's going. Patrick Henry said give me never to

1210
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: give me death. That's no. Thomas Jesson told you what

1211
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: was going on with the American Revolution. One third was

1212
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: four one third was against it, and one third whichever

1213
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: the wind blew. You know what I'm saying, We are realist.

1214
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There's some forces and support

1215
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: forces I'm gonna bring online with you know what I'm

1216
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: saying that we every nook and cranitic community. If you said,

1217
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: why I can't be roost some sort of support you

1218
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, can't be like man, how you

1219
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: deal with this cat? You know I'm saying this cat

1220
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: man then, and this and is that we did with

1221
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: the people? We are We are trying to draw the

1222
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: line of demarcation. Who are you with the state of

1223
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: the people. Now you're Virgo or Scorpio. Now you're Christian

1224
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: of Muslim and cripple blood disciple Stone, who are you

1225
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: with the people of the States. What I'm saying, so

1226
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 1: the cub again, it's a I'm gonna black panther party

1227
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: cup about birth and bad battle again by birth and

1228
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: back battle. Man, I'm come from the structure of contested

1229
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: They just said, old man, that's just something. Man, Okay,

1230
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: if let's go you the chat, No go with us,

1231
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: contested conditions. Let's see what the let's who need doing

1232
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: in the sewer, Max TAM's let's he do they try

1233
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: to buy them off, the assassination, the tips on his life.

1234
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: Now we're talking, you know, saying this ain't this ain't

1235
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: no know Gypsian dynasty like you just passed down to you,

1236
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, saying it's called contested conditions. I'm the chair.

1237
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: We're have an a basstore of international fast. We have

1238
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: a minister you know, saying we have a minister education.

1239
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: We have structure, checks and balances. Structure. Say just even

1240
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: with the movie structs we got earlier and I said,

1241
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: whoa whoa hold on, hold on, say no, ragtag group

1242
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: of casting is my homie. It's structure, checks and balances.

1243
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: Let's bring similar Let's bring some structure round here. What

1244
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: we got with us today, you got a few, get

1245
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: a few forces of magund initiative. You know I'm saying,

1246
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: we get my nephew is about that dome p it's

1247
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: a PC just releases when we call the cold and

1248
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: culture piece of free them all right, just you know,

1249
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: saying we've been Man, this video, y'all check it. It

1250
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: was shot not only in the Hapton House, but also Oakland, California,

1251
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: Oakland's college sister cities also also on deck. You know

1252
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, is brother hit Man. They they his

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Speaker 1: upcoming even again April. You have every annually. Man. You

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Rob's money. He had these Champan

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01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 1: of Love movie. You know what I'm saying. And I

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01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: can say, can't ye like you can bring in the

1257
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: minute talk? Okay, say y'all? So yeah he comes here.

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Speaker 1: So these are different forces in the community that we

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Speaker 1: work with, you know what I'm saying. So we have

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Speaker 1: some four or different four year sitting this old line.

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01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: So you can't limit us up and say, man, just

1262
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: them knock them up. You'll be doing it. It's a

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01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: climbing you don't say it's an atmosphere. Then wherever you

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: go like damn cup man cup and supporters and community

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01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: to community and see we say the people, that's our

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Speaker 1: better security, you know what I'm saying. And people coming

1267
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: all walks of life. Man, you know what I'm saying.

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01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: And you know we don't comeing over like the Bible,

1269
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: say something like you know, bringing your we're you're weary

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Speaker 1: your time, We've been there, bring us all see loads

1271
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: you either the state. We can deal with whatever contradictions

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01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: and we come to them. We got contradictions at some point.

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Speaker 1: You can do the struggle. Man. That's what we deal with. Man.

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01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: We have to code the culture. You will saying, hear

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Speaker 1: every looking credit some cats to see me that I'm gone.

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01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: I got got a technic form, all right. I hear

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01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: from from the rank from left neph you gotta do

1278
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: this song, Oh man Gold all right? Uh rob money

1279
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: you're saying, Man, with even that, you know I'm saying,

1280
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: donna stay. You won't hear the turn free them all

1281
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: your bother shock your pool hall, at your clubs. You

1282
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: say they last night and the joy the joint last night.

1283
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, man, king Dad. They talk

1284
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: eight what I'm saying, but I guess some slab another

1285
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: cash wherever you go. You can't duck and down. You won't.

1286
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: Finally said, listen, man, I ain't with it with You're

1287
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna see you with the state, you say the people.

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01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: That's it right. I would love the pink chill you

1289
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: right for you, So you're right everybody in talking. Man

1290
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: was he love brother love? Indeed you could give me.

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01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: You know, I get to get it back safely. You know,

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01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm gon at Chicago and I got a big event

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Speaker 1: four day, my birthday party and the award for the

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Speaker 1: chairman that day in Chicago. Yeah, so I got to

1295
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: stay safe and get back so no districting people go

1296
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Speaker 1: back to Cancil's super cute. We love you two guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's funny it till I love you. Broparents,

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01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: hey man going to break y'all keep up to doing work.

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01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate bro. I knew even for the people through

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: the first time I met Heaving. I'll go off in.

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01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: I could tap in the individuals for the people. The

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01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: first time I pump here broke for my first week fed.

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: I need yeah, people over there with mode over the

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01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: more being there. You see the thing with the song,

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01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean a chairman didn't see I know in this

1306
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: in this day of times, it ain't what you say.

1307
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: Is how you're saying something to you are you're trying

1308
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,919
Speaker 1: to be conscious or get them a history or something.

1309
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,959
Speaker 1: You gotta say it a certain way or they're gonna

1310
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: shun it. So I try to put it in the

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Speaker 1: way where I can explain the history. I can explain

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened with the chair on the Simber fourth

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Speaker 1: nine and explain George Jackson, the Field Marster, George Jackson

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01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Jackson, Um the minister who we people knew,

1315
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: mentioning all these names, markets guard all these names that

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01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: I mentioned in his soome. But put it in the

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Speaker 1: way where they can understand it. That's what I said. Um,

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01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: like I said the chair and said, we need to

1319
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: steal to little now the vision. When you see what

1320
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying and it's fasten on the screen, you can

1321
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: see the people I'm talking about it, it is seeking

1322
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: a little different. You canna understand a little bok. But

1323
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: like he said that nobody mean no bluesn So I

1324
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: know that I gotta use my voice to reach the

1325
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Speaker 1: youth and reaching shorge, because everybody ain't talking about that.

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes it ain't cool. What's right ain't cool. So I

1327
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: forgot about being cool at this age of the time,

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01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: and what's going on right now this is that. That's

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01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: why I went on. When I was behind the wall

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01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: in the chairman told me that the movie, I already

1331
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: know where he's been through and what he goes through,

1332
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: how many hours of sleepy lose, and what type of

1333
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: fight he doing every day. So I ain't got no

1334
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: choice about to get it in the ring with the

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Speaker 1: worst thing to do was go to war with some soldiers.

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01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're fighting for. So I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to give him the knowledge and let him know what

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Speaker 1: the fight is, what we're fighting for. How you're gonna

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01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: go to the war, what's individually? Don't even know what

1340
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: we're fighting for. You just get on the front line

1341
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: with me and just going I don't even know what

1342
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: the aim is, what they're talking it. You ain't got

1343
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: no knowledge. So I'll try to give them the knowledge.

1344
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: Implemented that in my song because they're like, man, I

1345
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: said that wan't care. Now I get it because a

1346
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: lot of the short's been walking upon her like man bro.

1347
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know who I looked up. I didn't know

1348
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: he did this. I didn't know he did that. But

1349
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: you can't get mad at me if you never brought

1350
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: it to him or taught him that how they're supposed

1351
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 1: to know it. So I made sure when I was

1352
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 1: behind the wall, I took enough time as I can

1353
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: to get the knowledge to myself so I can give

1354
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: it to you, for give it to somebody to prevent

1355
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: rom run the same brick walls. I did, you know right?

1356
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: He did right, Like you found a way to to

1357
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: to to to relate the message in a way that

1358
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: they get it exactly said the wrong way. They don't

1359
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: get it. There want to hear it's concert rap. So

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: I gave it to him where it's concerts, but it's

1361
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: still gangst. It's like gangster. But whoa all he's saying this.

1362
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 1: But I'm sliding in so I don't lose. I gotta

1363
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: keep laying right, because you know people donna different. Look up.

1364
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: He just put that panther cub political pill and the

1365
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: applesode like someone's even putting that in me. Some of

1366
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: the story may encouraged me out what nobody nobody, and

1367
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 1: I think that that's the way. Everybody's just constructor. We

1368
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: need We had to compare liberalism and she structure that

1369
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: he hate structure. You don't say it's ideal. I'll tune

1370
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: on this commercial that saying commercial right, they told they

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: say she told her childres need to broccoli and old

1372
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: the children. You'll gotta stay in under y'all need the brocoli,

1373
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: and then then you know she put some cheese on it.

1374
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: I said, all this curbins that come from you know

1375
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Man, did we come from the clothing man?

1376
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: Checks and balances? You know what I'm saying. I can

1377
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: just say I'm the champ of all this son no

1378
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: hold accountable. You know what I'm saying. We need structure.

1379
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: You don't say checking balance our community because it is

1380
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: this system and the ain't cut no corns with us. Man.

1381
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And you got to see,

1382
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: like a criminal psychologist said, behavior is affected back consequences.

1383
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: Behaviors affected back consequences is not what you It's certain

1384
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: cats that believes that I ain't gonna I'm gonna do

1385
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: this because I mean will make its repercustoms. The comforty.

1386
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: Our community is so disrespected because people feel like the

1387
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: slum lawders are told when they come four merchants come

1388
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: in the country, do what you want to to them.

1389
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: Sell them what you want to sell them. Talk to them.

1390
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: You wanna talk to him? Granted your sisters and put

1391
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: them in behind the glass and fifteen years old, run

1392
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: the muck. You know what I'm saying, Uh, selling coverage

1393
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: to him the music industry, go turn one, go turn

1394
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: on the white radio stations and try to singing that

1395
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: gobage to him. And it's up you say, old old man,

1396
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: So we old caster, listen man, we don't care. Whould

1397
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: man listen? Man? They had this thing called voe the

1398
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: do's gives back. Ask them casts. When did he come

1399
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: across the lower state lines? We've been We didn't play that.

1400
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: She didn't say, Man, No other community saynything like vote

1401
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: for lesson to weaving. You know what I'm saying, you're

1402
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: a voter die. You have to if you talk with

1403
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: some sisters like so to say, I'm gonna go out

1404
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: with somebody I don't know who. You say, I'm just

1405
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: getting guarantee catching like man, we ain't gonna take no

1406
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: show wing you know flowers, you're see she going out.

1407
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: It was guaranteed. You know, I'm saying, our people deserve

1408
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: better up to any when it comes to dealing with us.

1409
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's a certain thing you

1410
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: gotta say. In the sixty was a climbing, you know, saying,

1411
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: hold on, man, we know we get knocked up out

1412
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 1: of here. Polish kind of what you're saying about that

1413
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: hold on the draft? They had a draft. You know

1414
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: what I'm saying with mamma, mamma, even like what you're saying,

1415
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: I want to want your position on this, not vice diversity.

1416
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying the party and want women were

1417
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: in position not for the affirmativeat so you can say

1418
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: we get some We're no that, but didn't work. You

1419
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You had to guess the NY

1420
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 1: was up even your relationships. Chap firstaid the best dress

1421
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: Brother want leather Jack in the forty five. You know

1422
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying you when you talk to use someone you

1423
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: were doing with the movie, I ain't up with that

1424
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: was what out of hand? Man were don the protest

1425
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: one time I west Man Chicago, avenue. Man pologes this guy.

1426
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: One of those dutiful scenes I've seen. She said, Man,

1427
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: she said, you ain't over here with us protesting. He

1428
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: didn't get my ear. Ain here gonna be up man.

1429
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: Your music it creates a different type of dynamic, different

1430
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: type an athlete, different type of the church. The saying.

1431
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: No one could say I'm neutral in that different But

1432
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: Richard Pryor Comedity jeans. Richard Pard was impacted with the

1433
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: Black Panther Party. He talks about with pride. New Year's Eve,

1434
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: he made chamman Fred. He talks about chamman Fred talked

1435
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 1: to him about the party. Program, talks about pride. He

1436
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: gave with thousand lines to the breakfast program. Took me on,

1437
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: said to him, out he rusting something with pride. You

1438
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: gotta catch bragging bubbles on their ears. But ain't no

1439
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: contributor to struggle, you know, hope of these old GMOs

1440
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 1: the government made organizations. I supported. Hold on, man, you

1441
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 1: mean you should the mind citty, You claim it and

1442
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: you ain't connecting bullish. Just get fifteen us we do

1443
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: and shout right and left it right and you hear

1444
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: somebody these conditions now, no watch go damny man, other

1445
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: communities you con man and listen man, other whole people accountable. Man,

1446
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: you give me some connection. You just can't come through.

1447
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 1: Some people are black woods. Beneficial play path when it's

1448
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 1: profitable and connect with clubs and it's comfortable. See he

1449
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: turns more than me black. He turns more than me black.

1450
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: What that means is Michael Jackson said, you ain't I

1451
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: ain't know. I'm not up with all that there black

1452
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: stuff and that case come down as tool change. They

1453
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: don't care about us. So what I'm saying, see the

1454
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: heat and the dealers, the steak out of breeding, the stake,

1455
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna bringa or we're gonna bring the heat. You know

1456
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You said they feel you just can

1457
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: grab you don't want to. Oh yeah we all Oh

1458
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: now we're together. Huh, you don't do that in your household.

1459
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: So it comes to we're family unit, said man, are

1460
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,839
Speaker 1: you with us? No? Man? You know then probably attacks

1461
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,799
Speaker 1: to hay family. Hold on, man, I thought we went together.

1462
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 1: So I peep we all of you and any wants

1463
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 1: thank you? Who is she? Honestly I'm getting them a

1464
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: taxi and a good man. You didn't see it. The

1465
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: black leather party could see we with this man when

1466
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: it's not fashionable. Right, all right, we're catching case for

1467
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: this here. You know what I'm saying. When they got

1468
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: pictures and they got me and Chamming for your pitch

1469
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: and they'd be gun towering, man, I pen attent you

1470
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: right now to this date, I'm fifteen, sixteen years old.

1471
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: See the first race scene seven of police station. They

1472
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: put out pictures, fresh pictures of Chaman. Fred puts him up.

1473
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: This This is song right here, this that he did see.

1474
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm just kid about fourteen years old. Come, it's a dude.

1475
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 1: Say uh, he's champing fred Son. Say what Kenny Scott,

1476
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: he probably probably gonna see this too, I'm saying, shut him,

1477
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: shot him out. I'll track them down. I said, man,

1478
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: you tell the cash you chairman Son? He said, Brother,

1479
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on Ablija Mohammed Son, and I'm chief, my

1480
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 1: lead son. I'm chamman At who was said no, no, no,

1481
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: no no no no, I mean like who your mother

1482
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: of relationship with? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said. I said, listen, man,

1483
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: I was hoping. I was hoping I had a sibling,

1484
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: so you can catch hand for this. Heat did come

1485
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 1: with this here? Cio romanticize. This is heat to come

1486
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 1: with this here, man, you know what I'm saying. And

1487
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: that's the deal to say, we get up to any

1488
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: you took. When cats can come with the artists with

1489
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: be different arenas and oh man, oh yeah, I'm with

1490
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: this here. Cats pop up like even the black Hat

1491
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: the party. It was so reality with the movie. The

1492
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,040
Speaker 1: name it catch Coote cutter, hold on, who is this? Oh?

1493
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 1: They was done on. They might be at the tailgate

1494
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: party outside. I'm telling to these cats here got dirt,

1495
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: they clicked, they got scars. Somebody in the football in

1496
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: the huddle. I ain't what I'm saying. They were out

1497
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: there and anyone I at the tailgate party catching he said, yeah,

1498
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: put some working with this here. Man, my family, nephew, mats.

1499
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to the whole two three times. Last

1500
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: time I'm in the whole at the timebody would love

1501
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: at the time. You know, I had to send a

1502
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: little because I couldn't even steps on the streets across

1503
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: the hall to give if my man and said a

1504
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 1: lot of my people they get in the set about

1505
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: the pholi, they come grab me. They give me six

1506
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: more months of the whole. They said, I'm inciting the

1507
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: ride because I'm turning right in tim hand. The only

1508
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: way I get out of the war again, tune with me.

1509
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 1: I saw my mother, is I saw my whole? Contact less? Okay, Ken,

1510
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: we have for shure here like this is my family.

1511
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: So y'all tell me I can't interact from my family.

1512
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: I'm inciting the ride for interacting with my family and

1513
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: the letter. But they didn't took your phone called. They're

1514
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: gonna snap and take me the whole again. So I

1515
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: know what's there, gonna come with it. I know it's

1516
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 1: a fight. Even when I ain't fighting, I'm fighting the

1517
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: people watching everything that's going on. You mean tell me

1518
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm in here and I'm writing a letter my uncle

1519
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: about a situation, and y'all come take me to the

1520
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,679
Speaker 1: hole and say I'm inciting a ride and I'm starting

1521
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: to talk a political prister. I'm trying to start a

1522
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 1: political right in the jail. So I did six months

1523
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: writing a letter to the chair. You know what games

1524
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,919
Speaker 1: they played this reality, that's what it's important and parental

1525
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 1: that we had your sales up. Clint shout out to y'all.

1526
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're real talk man, because had you said

1527
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 1: the avenues venues kick it out, y'all saying the big

1528
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: coming else our brother's birthday, man, you know saying party

1529
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,879
Speaker 1: have a good time. At the same time, the politics,

1530
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: We've got a bad conception of a struggle. You know

1531
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like only this stuff, man, we hast

1532
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: slat Stone say we every day people party to kick

1533
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: you choppling up everything your music. It's the people man,

1534
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: you're talk in. Champ f said, you're afraid of social

1535
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: afraid of yourself. It's the people's thing. Man, you're talking sired.

1536
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 1: You break it down when you were like you got

1537
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: the Black Panther Party, you got the Black Panther Party.

1538
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: So what is the difference between the first one? You

1539
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: know if you knew and then now to this generation

1540
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: there was the groundbreakers. Man, that's that's a visionary. That's

1541
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: a visionary. You know what I'm saying. You know, so

1542
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: we humble ourselves of their legacy. Man, you know what

1543
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying as support the ground the ten point platform,

1544
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we nothing stays exactly

1545
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: the same two minutes ago. Was history respected for that

1546
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: was ever developing? You know? What I'm saying, Like even

1547
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: with the United States, they studied West Point, the different

1548
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: they study general pattern maybe those before them, but they

1549
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: put it in contexts things that with me have been

1550
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: I'm the system. Uh it's but a slab his son

1551
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: to day he tweaking updated terms. Things are constantly developed.

1552
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm having a flashback and I told this some years back,

1553
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: and I was talking my masspace and you'll start laughing

1554
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: at me. You know what I'm saying. You gotta so

1555
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: things are ever developing. So we got so we gotta

1556
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: be constantly moving. But keep the core of it, you

1557
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So black out the party cubs,

1558
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: that's the organ there's this's the organization. That's they're saying.

1559
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 1: That's cans about at the party. We want to set

1560
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: the ground, they'll say, to cultivate the soil, you know

1561
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: for those retire after week at wee gone bad man,

1562
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: j W Man, play me something man the chairman. Man.

1563
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: Don't let this be the last time you hey man this.

1564
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm humbled to be here before we look for to

1565
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: coming back coming black with y'all. Man that I want

1566
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: to t teach the move man, I see what I

1567
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: want to do what I can do with it. It's

1568
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 1: like it's like I'm fighting, said, That's what I'm saying.

1569
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: It's like like visionary man, I'm fighting to get things

1570
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: in place. Man. You know it's like time and owners.

1571
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, so we got some guys other forces

1572
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 1: on deck, you know what I'm saying. So I'm working

1573
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: on the man. You know what I'm saying. It's like

1574
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: Malcolm X said the collective conscience that people tick slowly,

1575
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: but it ropes the volcano forced to make mouth say

1576
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: him like nothing. You know what I'm saying. So I'm

1577
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: the guys playing basketball. But who's out there on a

1578
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: Rutgers court watching all Matt Dude beyond the draft notices. Man,

1579
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: he becomes he ain't just watching the basketball, and he looking,

1580
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, saying it's natural to me when I come through,

1581
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: I see colors, but I say, okay, like blue and black.

1582
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 1: I see that's on one. It's form. I'm hooked on this.

1583
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm on this struggle man. So for you were own

1584
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: in poppit. Man, we're talking. Hey, we said the Cubs

1585
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: and coming the Cubs come to Black proby clubs, and

1586
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm look, look this is exactly why we built this platform,

1587
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,759
Speaker 1: is to have black people, black voices come and speak

1588
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: on everything from entertainment to social economic status is and

1589
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: revolutions and everything involved in black people. So don't never

1590
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 1: hesitate to use our platform. You want to get the information,

1591
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: and they can't cancel this. I'm man, we get the

1592
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: real wrong, uncut true right, and here there's so much

1593
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: more ship. We can sit here and chop it up

1594
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: and talk about. Bro. I'm just telling you like it's

1595
01:17:51,880 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna look up. I don't know a lot of people

1596
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: look at me, right, I'm a street person. And why

1597
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: he messes with smoke stuff and you got your stuff,

1598
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: you know? And I said to myself, I said, yeah,

1599
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: I'm financially cool. I do what I do. But it's

1600
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: one thing I learned about him by watching him all

1601
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: the years. I've known this man. A lot of times,

1602
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: you didn't have a dollar in his pocket. Man, people

1603
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: don't even know that, and people aren't even help him.

1604
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: He'll call me, I'll step up. If you people knew

1605
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,719
Speaker 1: what that man went through, man, and so serious about

1606
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: this legacy, they would understand his struggle. I believe right

1607
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: now he would eat out of drabage Can before he

1608
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 1: damaged his fall a legacy. I believe eat out of

1609
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: gubage Can. Seriously, I have seen it struggled hard time.

1610
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: Like he said, lights gas off. The only people that

1611
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: had a lot of money won't even help me. This

1612
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: is God, man, this happiness. Man, right now, this is

1613
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: time and it's gonna shine. He like being around me

1614
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 1: because I'm the love moment. I never faked you. If

1615
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: I told you something, that's what it was. You ask

1616
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 1: anybody in the country if I said we're going to

1617
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 1: the moon, I'm getting a space. Shut Keep you worried.

1618
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: Keep your promise, man, do that, no matter what you do,

1619
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: keep your word and your promise. That's why I hang

1620
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: with him. Man a job always from Chicago to begin

1621
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 1: thousand thous on the doments. But the money part is

1622
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: not important because I know his legacy. It's gonna be something.

1623
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 1: He probably get a lot of heat from being there. Man,

1624
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: you pat the party while you got players all in

1625
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: your party. He probably get heat bone in the heat.

1626
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: But that he didn't get. Keep saying that right there,

1627
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 1: you'll feel Marshall. Keep every and even the time this

1628
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: man kicked does in man. He and then he gets

1629
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: ready to tick your dough. And he told me, said,

1630
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 1: you know what I do money, I've seen your face

1631
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: and I said, lovele movement, movement, stay with him. But

1632
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad that what I got can roll on them

1633
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: and help him. Man, because he's my brothers for real, Man,

1634
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: keep my brother whatever you got shut out as lad

1635
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: we when we've been making some major moves. Man, grandmass

1636
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: was but uh, it's our brother name last night Virgin

1637
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: shout him out, but slab it's it's it's you know

1638
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's just um these enforces like you

1639
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: can't came playing all these moves man. And I love

1640
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: the people man, straight up. Man, I I was locked

1641
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: up one times. Can't say how you be seeing what

1642
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: you're seeing? People say, Man, listen man, the politics. Man,

1643
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 1: I made a potential about people. Man. Real talk. Contridens

1644
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: is all to we all get flows, we all damage you.

1645
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: I'll do any of you want that. So say, well,

1646
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: I'm not damn it. That's a ship when you come

1647
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 1: from us. So you can't this government can't transfer a

1648
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: TV without damage it. I'll say, you know translate, you

1649
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: ain't damn it? What are you on? You know what

1650
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, But dearly is man, we all get scars

1651
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: and bars. Man, But this I know, I don't see

1652
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: what we can do. Man, you know saying like that

1653
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: our brothers said, like eventually we're doing so we come

1654
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: in if they're trying to keep us subjected like these

1655
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: different clicks and you know what I'm saying, I've searched

1656
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: out for points of unity. You know what I'm saying, saying, Okay,

1657
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: we can we agree on You know what I'm saying, Man,

1658
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: you go to the events, man, the wards and all

1659
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: the type of study, saying, my nephew, different cults, thences

1660
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: with the music is now the cast. They have blockers

1661
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: up and vice versa. You don't sending different arenas. Man,

1662
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: the people, it's the sat sat the nieces and they fight.

1663
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: In Latin America, he had a saying that the will

1664
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 1: of the people is greater than the man's technology. You

1665
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We can't afford the luxury, man,

1666
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, be tripping about. You know what I said,

1667
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: why my own all fool the virgo with us to

1668
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: the capricorns and the castle. One of the players. I

1669
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 1: don't feel they don't say the cast, the rap industry.

1670
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, or even gender or generational contradicts. You

1671
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, old cast, young cats man. It

1672
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: was a climate that you're saying. Like and at the

1673
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: happening house, it's cat. He paints. He do paintings, So

1674
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: that field Marshal got to come through. He he need

1675
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: to paint the house. You know, that's his that's his job.

1676
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: He didn't charge his mother seen him on live doing

1677
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: the painting. That happen that you with our cousins, the

1678
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: life blowing black, she said, you know who you was at.

1679
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: They never had the conversation before. And then that's the

1680
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: open the door for the conversation. You know what I'm saying,

1681
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: it'd be cats. This party made party impacts us in

1682
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 1: so many ways. Is that we scared to talk about it.

1683
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: Once it's a floodgate, once it open? Man, listen, Lenden,

1684
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: can they living with restan revolution? Said? It takes me

1685
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: with twenty years and an ordinary time. They're two years

1686
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: revolution They times man, real talk. You're to call within

1687
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: our slogan free them all you had through all the joints,

1688
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: all the captain, the music, the studios, the player of

1689
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: the barber shop. It's a it's a you know what

1690
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and you can still be like, that's the

1691
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 1: chair over the disciples, that the blackness, the three breakfets

1692
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: pro we're their disciples. There's a little black disciple stalls

1693
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: the black peast donation, the bibs or the free medical center.

1694
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: So it's a different athletes, it's a different dynamic. Look

1695
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 1: at the look at the cast on the movie. Man

1696
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: Dominique Fishback just talking about she said, man, the impact

1697
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: of playing you know, Devid Johnson, Daniel a little young talk.

1698
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean the conversation we had the key staff hered

1699
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean he was going, he asked, he was you know,

1700
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 1: he just call doing Birch a little Charlotte mane. And

1701
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: then it was crazy. I think we had at the

1702
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: table to Chart said, man, what's changing these dudes. You're saying, Man,

1703
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: this politics. Man, he says, then between twenty two things

1704
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: on with his politics. Man, you're talking and man, thank

1705
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: you for coming here here and blessing us and putting

1706
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: us up on some games. I'm honored, We're honest, he said,

1707
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: walk out my fault, keep my man. He still he

1708
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: still my little your nephew, I say here, you don't keep.

1709
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: Don't keep with your count pe killing all previous golfing life.

1710
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: That's where the capital faible. I just can't want to

1711
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: get capital peak. You know, you know you old enough

1712
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: like man, Okay, what's up with Burns? Man? Listen much

1713
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: little to hold on, hold on, hold of man, hold on,

1714
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: hold on many smooth, smooth, Well listen, listen, Mo'm gonna

1715
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: joint right. I come up one day man and man,

1716
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: I really got choked out of it. They want to

1717
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: move the guys wait, hold on with Soubers. It's a man.

1718
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 1: It's a man. Listen, chairman, fredow S. It's a politician,

1719
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: this hit man. And on the movie set, the brother

1720
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: playing the Charry you come out, I said, old on

1721
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 1: man for Cyber and things on it. Man, listen, man,

1722
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: the whole aura to a man at the point, maybe

1723
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: my chilling Preston is a child. I grew up looking

1724
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: forward to not be here to Cyber, and they were

1725
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 1: seeing the hedlin. I can't do that. But the cybers man,

1726
01:25:48,120 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: that's now, that's no malitory nothing. Now, that's hard. That's hard.

1727
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: See you ain't even speak on to it, even even

1728
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: knowing what the dude keeping it out