WEBVTT - Group Chat Gone Wild | Angela Rye SoloPod 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.720 Native lanmdpod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:05.080 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.200 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:13.840 Hey everyone, So it is another solo pod for a 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:17.720 Native lamppod. I am your host, Angela Raie, and today 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.920 we are talking about the real housewives of the Trump administration, 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.160 also known as some of your appointed officials, some of 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.160 them confirmed and overwhelming majorities by the United States Senate. 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:34.080 And some of those same people had to make appearances 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:40.080 on the latest Trump gate, which is what goes down 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.879 in your signal threat It should probably not be military strikes. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.919 Let's go ahead and roll, Senator Warner, today, this. 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.559 Was not only sloppy, not only violated all procedures, but 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:57.640 if this information had gotten out, American lives could have 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:05.120 been lost. This information could reposition their defensive systems. Did 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.640 you participate in the group chat with Secretary of Defense 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:11.000 and other Trump senior officials discussing the m and war. 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.080 Plans, Senator I don't want to get into this. 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:16.000 Man, ma'am. Did you were you on You're not going 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:19.160 to be willing to addressation, so you're not are you denying? Matt? 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.559 Were you answer my question, ma'am? You were not TG 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:23.839 on this group chat. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:26.840 I'm not going to get into this specific. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.520 So you refuse to acknowledge whether you were on this group. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.440 Chat, Senator, I'm not going to get into this. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.280 Why are why are you going to get into specific? 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.320 Is it because it's all classified? 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.880 Because this is currently under review by the National security. 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:43.039 Because it's all classified. If it's not classified, share the 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:46.399 text now, Rector Radcliffe, were you on the group chat? 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:53.160 Senator? I was on a signal messaging group, So you were. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.320 The John Radcliffe on that chat? I was thank you, 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:55.760 thank you. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:00.480 So my communications, to be clear, in a signal message 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:05.520 group were entirely permissible and lawful and did not include 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:06.720 classified information. 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.200 We will we will make that determination because if it's 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.960 not classified, share the text with the committee. 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:13.520 Did you. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:19.840 Contact the Defense Secretary or others after this specific military 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.560 planning was put out and say, hey, we should be 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:23.440 doing this on a skiff? 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.440 There was no classified material that was shared. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.800 In that so that if there was no classified material, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.920 share it with the committee. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.360 So what happened was if you all can't tell some 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.280 of you may not have been following this at all. 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.040 There's a little handy dandy thing we call our cell 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:45.400 phones and there's a little handy dandy app we call Signal. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.240 Many of us use signal. In fact, I know White 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.639 House staffers, as I talked about on my Instagram live 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.679 last night, who have used Signaled on their personal devices. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:03:00.400 They are not allowed to download Signal onto their federal devices, 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:04.680 and let me tell you why they're hackable. So what 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:09.200 these people decided to do was put signal on their 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:14.519 personal device and talk about a government led a US 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:19.680 government led strike on Yemen on signal. And the only 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.240 reason why the American people know that there was an 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:26.920 official government act conducted on behalf of the American people 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:29.760 is not because it was on signal app and they 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:35.320 got hacked. It was because the National Security Advisor added 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:39.280 Jeffrey Goldberg, who just so happens to be the Atlantic 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:43.520 editor in chief, into this thread. And so what is 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.400 now being discussed is whether or not the discussions about 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.360 an attack that would happen, not that it already happened, 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.600 that would happen on Yemen, was going to take place, 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.360 and there was fierce debate about it on this signal thread, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.800 which included your Vice President, your Secretary Area of Treasury, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:05.880 your Secretary of State. That would be Marco Rubio, Tulcy Gabbert, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:10.840 the d and I director, and the National Security Advisor, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.320 among others. Oh and let me not forget Pete Hegg said. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.920 And so normally these things happen, these types of strikes 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.920 are discussed in something called the situation room. Well, they 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.000 decided to have a liituation room led by Pete Haig. Saith, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.320 you're truly the most litty in the administration. So now 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.560 let's go to Senator John Assov to hear what he 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.960 had to say at today's committee hearing. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:41.320 Director Ratcliffe, this was a huge mistake. 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:52.840 Correct, No, a national political no no, no, no, Director 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.039 I said, We asked him, no question, and now you'll 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:59.800 hold on a national political reporter you can you want? 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.160 Was made privy the way sensitive information about it, the 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:08.839 military operations, a foreign terrorist adding a reporter, and that 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.360 wasn't a huge mistake. That wasn't a huge missa. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.000 I think the characterized the embarrassment. 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.359 This is utterly unprofessional. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.800 There's been no apology, there has been no recognition of 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.880 the gravity of this error. And by the way, we 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.560 will get the full transcript of this chain and your 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:31.960 testimony will be measured carefully against its content, Thank you, 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:32.599 mister chairman. 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:38.279 So you all know when there's like a badass child 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.840 and they have done something that they shouldn't do, and 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.160 then you trying to get them to apologize and they're like, no, 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.400 you know, or maybe it's not even a bad child. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.920 Maybe it's you know, some years ago. I can't even 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.560 remember what president it was. But in trying to confess 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:02.680 that something was done wrong, the president says mistakes were made. Bruh, 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.440 who made these mistakes? Right? So I just named a 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.880 laundry list of people who were on this signal thread 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:16.200 talking about a national secure military strike essentially on international 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:21.960 soil in Yemen with the editor in chief from The Atlantic, 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.560 and all John oss I was asking is if this 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.000 were a mistake, if it was a mistake, and John 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:34.840 Ratcliffe full chest out, this is your CIA director, who 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:37.440 was also on the thread. This has all been by 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:41.080 the way, we're not even debating whether or not this 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.159 was the thing. Donald Trump went on air and said 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.440 he don't know nothing about it. Well, all of your 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:49.320 cabinet did, all of your national security advisors did. And 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:52.279 John Radcliffe, who is the CIA director, is on the 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.920 thread and he's not even willing to acknowledge the fact 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.560 that mistakes were made, which is the lowest bar mistakes 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.279 were made. Couldn't even say that. Let's go to Senator 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:01.839 Mark Kelly. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.240 So I understand that DoD policy prohibits discussion of even 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:14.160 what is called controlled unclassified information or CUI on unsecured devices. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.200 Are both of you aware of that DoD policy. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.840 I haven't read that policy. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.400 Not familiar with the DoD policy, but I would say 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:28.200 that the Secretary of Defense is the original classification authority 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:32.320 for DoD and deciding what would be classified information. 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:37.680 So now we're not just saying we're not even saying 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.920 mistakes were made. Now they're trying to argue about what 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:44.040 is classified and what is not. My virtue of the 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.840 fact that it was shared on a signal thread completely 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.640 compromises that. So I had the lowest level clearance on 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.720 the hill. I had a TS which is a top 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:59.080 secret clearance. They're dealing with SCI clearance level information here, 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.920 But they're trying to say that it's not classified. And 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.960 I would argue they may be right because Jeffrey Goldberg 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:07.640 was in the chat, So if it was classified, it 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.040 ain't classifying the morc job now shared it with the 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.920 public visa vie Jeffrey Goldberg. So they're not willing to 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.840 say that they know what level of classification this would 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.960 have been. They're not willing to say that it's classified. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.680 But here's the gag for me. In the real Housewives 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:26.800 of the Trump administration, they're saying that they're not willing 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:31.080 to turn over the text because right now it's under 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.840 some type of investigation. What's the investigation? 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:34.360 Friends? 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.760 If it's not classified and no mistake was made, what 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.880 are y'all exactly looking into? That is the question that 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.760 I have, and I want to know, given everything that's 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:51.440 going on, how exactly might y'all spend this? Let's look 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:52.560 to Jesse Waters for that. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.720 Do you ever try to start a group text you're 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.320 adding people and you accidentally add the wrong person all 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.720 of a sudden you're Mary knows all your raunchy plans 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.440 for the bachelor party. Well that kind of happened today 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.439 with the Trump administration. Mike Wallaz was putting together a 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.840 group chat on Signal, an encrypted app, with the Secretary 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.080 of Defense, the VP, and a bunch of other national 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:16.840 security officials to collaborate on whether to strike Iranian proxies 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.680 in Yemen who keep firing missiles and shutting down shipping. Well, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.440 National security Advisor Mike Waltz accidentally added a reporter to 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:28.640 the group text, and not a good reporter, Jeffrey Goldberg 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.280 from the Atlantic, one of the biggest hoax artists around. Well, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.120 he heard some things he probably shouldn't have, but could 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.280 have been a wee bit of a security breach. But 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.559 it's not like they homebrewed a server and then bleached 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.080 it or kept classified documents in their garages next to 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.240 their corvette. I'm sure it won't happen again. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:04.240 So Jesse Water uses this opportunity to talk about y'all's 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:09.079 I'm Mary. This ain't I'm Mary, bitch. This is the 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:14.640 editor in chief of the Atlantic, who now has sci level, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:21.400 classified level information about bombing Yemen, which it hasn't happened yet, 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:25.080 is going to happen with all of the top national 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:31.520 security advisors, directors, cabinet secretaries, and the vice president of 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.880 these United States on a signal thread, not in the 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:40.319 situation room, talking about how America is going to deal 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:45.960 with violently another country. That's not I'm Mary, and I 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:47.679 just want to I just want to tell you all 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.720 because you know, I might know a thing about gas lighting. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.240 We have all had those toxic relationships or people who 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.760 have tried to deal with us, maybe even toxic friends 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:04.280 who are masterful at gaslighting. And what about ism? So 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:08.240 you say, man, you really hurt my hand? Why did 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.720 you close the door so hard? That did hurt my hand? 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.320 And they say, well, my pinky toe is sore too. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.720 Classic what about ism? Not dealing with the thing the 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:19.800 issue at play that you're trying to lay in front 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:24.120 of them to resolve for the purposes of accountability. No accountability, 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.200 no acknowledgment of your pain. Just let me pivot to 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.120 how you hurt my toenail back in the day. Okay, 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.600 that's what about ism? Gaslighting is well, I know this 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.840 thing happened, and maybe it's a we did he say 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.240 a wee bit of a security breach? No bit, It 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.280 is a huge security breach. But he said, this thing 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.600 is over here. But let me refocus you to this 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.880 thing that happened with this person who ran for president, 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.720 who was Secretary of State that I feel was way worse. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:56.080 Y'all tell me one time Hillary Clinton had y'all's information 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.280 about some type of military strike about some type of 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:04.800 US interview on a signal thread. He can't do it. 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.520 He can't do it to the point where Hillary Clinton 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.959 is tweeted about this yesterday like You've got to be 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.240 kidding me. And we're gonna talk about why. She probably 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.520 said you got to be kidding me in just the moment. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.439 But first I want to go to the person on 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:23.360 this podcast who regularly tells media about itself and tells 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.240 us the expectations that we should have for media, and 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:30.600 will give this situation or should we say lituation, more 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:34.280 of the context it deserves to tell you why Pete 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.640 heg Saith, who is y'all secretary of Defense, Why he 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.960 shouldn't be drinking on the job, the kinds of things 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.360 that happen if you do drink on the job. I'm 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:44.480 not saying he was drunk, buddy, it ain't joe us 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.440 acting like it. And let's go to d Tiffany Cross 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.920 to break down why all of this is such a 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:50.400 big deal. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:55.040 Tiffany, this is so utterly ridiculous. It's not only a 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.360 national embarrassment, this is a national emergency. John, and I 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.679 just feel like anybody who has the to to come 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.200 on air and try to defend this. Scott, you just 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.880 said that they're apologetic or that they've admitted some sort 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.560 of wrongdoing. We've just heard the Defense Secretary deny this 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.880 whole thing and instead choose to attack Jeffrey Goldberg, who 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.360 did the responsible thing by not reporting out everything that 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.040 he heard on this or read on this signal chat. 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.240 When this happened. I actually talked to some friends who 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:23.400 worked in Intel during the Obama administration and the Biden administration, 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.480 and I asked, how do you normally communicate about something 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:28.680 like this? And there's a skiff that you have to 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.200 have the highest security level to participate in these conversations. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.480 You go in the room where there's no electronic devices allowed, 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.640 there are no windows. It's taken very seriously. And this 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.640 is what happens when you have a man whose first 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.480 job in government was as President of the United States, 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.000 who's politically in e FT, who employs people who are 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.160 politically in f There's nothing funny about this. We're putting 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.400 our people who serve this country at danger, and we're 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.880 asking people to believe nonsense. And this is a travesty. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:00.160 Do we think President She of China is tweeting or 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.760 texting about his national security plans. Do we think vladimir's 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.560 Zelenski is texting about his plans? Do we think President 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.840 Vladimir Putin is spoon feeding Russian talking points to American 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.360 diplomats even on signal? This is a thing that people 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.120 use to talk to their side pieces, something Hexcess would 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.040 certainly know about. This is something that people need to 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.800 talk about March madness. It is a crisis that we 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.320 need to take very seriously, and we can't present this 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.720 as journalists. We cannot present this as though these are 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.160 two opposing political points of view. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:31.000 This is a. 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.960 Serious issue that we need to take certain patriots Scott 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:37.000 I find it really troubling because they ran on this 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.480 whole idea of this pseudo patriotism, this regressive masculine patriotism. 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.760 Yet everything they're doing runs against making America great. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.160 So Tiff goes on to let dress him down on 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.560 a number of other issues, But the main focus that 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.160 I wanted to have there was what she said about 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.640 how big of a deal it is that they were 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:04.160 exposing critical well defense information to a reporter. Again, the 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.080 editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic now Before 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.160 I get into everything that tiff said, what I do 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.560 think is important to acknowledge as well is that they 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.720 are now trying to make a boogeyman out of Jeffrey Goldberg. 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:21.400 In communication strategy, what you will see, particularly in politics 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:26.400 and political media is when something happens, there is normally 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.720 someone who escapegoated. Sometimes that happens within the realm of 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.000 like you're on the same side, but somebody has to go, 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.360 so you will say, this person over here is the 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.120 responsible one. So this person is the one who has 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:43.800 to be punished. Jeffrey Goldberg could actually experience punishment for that, 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.240 because you know, we are living in fascists like times, 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.760 so they could actually try to prosecute him or what 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.960 have you. To again distract from the ineptitude of this administration. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.920 The real didn't earn it HighRes right, so they could 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.280 end up scapegoating him. They certainly have begun doing that 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:01.960 in the media. You saw it if you all watched 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.120 Pete hegg say being asked about this by a reporter yesterday. 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.320 You saw it in what Jesse Water said, and you 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:11.400 see Tiffany coming to the defense of Jeffrey Goldberg in 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.400 terms of the standards that he used in his journalistic practices. Now, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.360 the other thing that I think is important that Tiff 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.400 said is there's nothing funny about this. Some of us 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.800 have been laughing, not because it's funny, but because it 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:29.160 is incredulous to believe that folks would make this type 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:32.840 of a mistake. Again, I worked on the Homeland Security Committee. 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:38.920 If any of us inadvertently exposed classified information, even sbused 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.440 sensitive but unclassified information, or if we would have been 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.520 tweeting about, or texting about, or signaling about, we have 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.720 signal back dag y'allam. Oh, but if we would have 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.600 been talking about it on signal, we would have experienced consequences, 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.160 some of them criminal, could could be fine, could do 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.120 jail time for these things. So that's why this is 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.480 so important to understand what is at stake and why 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:06.800 what they did was so wrong. Now, there's one last 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.400 piece that I want to share with y'all, and this 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:14.960 was from a presidential debate in twenty sixteen Donald Trump 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.040 versus Hillary Clinton. And I'm bringing it up because one 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.600 of the things that you know, we talked about the 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:23.560 scapegoat strategy, that boogeyman, the boogeyman for the Republicans right 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:28.320 now for Trump supporters is Jeffrey Goldberg. But there's another 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.600 boogeyman or should I say boogie woman, and it's the 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.360 what about ASM tactic on those emails. Let's play it. 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.720 I didn't think i'd say this, but I'm going to 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.840 say it, and I hate to say it, but if 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.720 I win, I am going to instruct my Attorney General 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:51.000 to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:55.280 because there has never been so many lies, so much deception, 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.159 There has never been anything like it, and we're going 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.439 to have a special prosecutor. When I speak, I go 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:05.080 out and speak. The people of this country are furious. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.320 In my opinion, the people that have been long term 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.760 workers at the FBI are furious. There has never been 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:14.560 anything like this where emails and you get a subpoena, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.040 you get a subpoena, and after getting the subpoena, you 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:21.840 delete thirty three thousand emails and then you ask it 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.000 washam or bleach them, as you would say. A very 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.840 expensive process. So we're going to get a special prosecutor 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.560 and we're going to look into it, because you know 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:33.679 what people have been, their lives have been destroyed for 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.480 doing one fifth of what you've done, and it's a 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.240 disgrace and honestly, you ought to be ashamed of you, sir. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:41.200 I want to follow up on that. I'm going to 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:42.560 let you talk about it now. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:45.600 Because everything he just said is absolutely false. 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.040 We understand that he was wanting to set up a 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:54.159 special prosecutor to go after her, trying to appease the 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.919 people who were just mad that a woman was running 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.119 for president. But I do think that there are some 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.520 things that we should know here to be fair and 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:06.119 to be honest. Right, there were two secretaries of State 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:13.040 in the past who used personal emails to conduct government business, 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.920 Hillary Clinton and Colin Powell. Some of what they learn 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.359 about in classified briefings is the many ways in which 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:27.960 government systems, government devices, and whatnot could be hacked. What 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:32.480 you can guarantee is that there were no situation room 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:40.160 convenings about strikes, military strikes, state department led interventions. None 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.639 of that was happening on emails. None of that was 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.919 happening on emails. There is absolutely a conversation to be 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:53.040 had about why they would what intel they were relying 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:57.359 upon to use their personal emails to use their own servers. 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.439 Why did they think that was more secure than the 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.360 government than a lot of reasons why. I didn't know that, 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.760 But I think that we have to understand the distinction 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:08.080 here is major. We're talking about an operation, a strike 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.160 that costs people's lives, that was violent, and that took 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.840 place on March fifteenth under this administration. And we also 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.560 have to understand that signal is not allowed to be 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:23.080 downloaded on government devices because they are hackable, So there 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.320 is a big difference here. I think the other thing 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:29.760 for us to keep in mind is that the FBI 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.600 Director James Coleman, who so I'm still off you, but 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.399 he said that there was no criminal activity in what 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:39.200 Hillary Clinton did, which clearly indicates that there was nothing 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:43.080 that was shared from a share from or to her 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.920 email that was overtly classified and that compromised the government. 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.600 This is different. That is all that they did with 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:56.560 multiple officials on multiple levels fist bumping each other in 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.479 this chat, once the strike happens with American flags waving, 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:05.240 there's a difference. Not only did they use this signal 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:09.200 thread to talk about an approach, jd Vance says point 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:12.640 blank he does not think the president understands the ramification 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.920 of his actions, not in those exact words, but essentially 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.200 that's what he says, and then they go on to 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:21.920 celebrate this act as if it is all a good 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.720 thing to cost people their lives. So I think these 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:26.960 are the kinds of things that we have to understand 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.880 in making the distinction. Some people still might say, well, 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:31.600 I still want to know what about our emails. Well, 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:33.320 I'm telling you about her emails. She did end up 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.600 winning an election. Y'all got this dude for a president instead, 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:40.640 who got a Fox News host as his secretary of Defense, 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.040 and they got to go along to get along gang 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:47.600 cheering on the ineptitude that is costing people their lives. 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:52.359 There is a big difference. So now America, we're paying 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.040 a cost. So, as far as I'm concerned today, that's 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:56.840 all I got. I'm a pose here just in case 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:01.800 there are any questions about what happened. Jeffrey Goldberg was 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:07.440 affirmatively added to this thread by the National Security Advisor 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:10.359 Michael Waltz, who works in the White House. That is 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.639 how he got on the thread. They have affirmed that 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.440 this thread was in fact the thing. He was not spooked. 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.280 He was not Ashton, your Punk. Some of you young 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.639 people don't know nothing about that show Punk, but this 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.520 was all the real thing. I wish I could tell 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.240 you this is another episode of Real Housewives. But this 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.840 is not just reality TV. This is the reality that 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.040 we're living in, y'all, so it is a different day. 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.440 Let me check for any questions that if we don't 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.800 have any I'm a log off because I gave y'all 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.159 a bunch of information. Lolo, I don't see any, So 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:42.640 we're gonna rap. All right, God bless y'all. 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