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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. Oh my god, it's a

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Speaker 1: trade surnam from the Chris Whistling podcast studio. It's Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas, got heroes here, Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf sitting in the Mark Sessler chair. Martin's not

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Speaker 1: with us today back later in the week. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: is the trade deadline episode. The deadline hits in exactly

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Speaker 1: ten minutes as we're recording this episode, Greggy, and in retrospect,

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Speaker 1: it is not at all surprising. First of all, Trade

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Speaker 1: Tsunami copyright Rosie. I was a little early on it, unfortunately, though,

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Speaker 1: Like I didn't time it well. I'd stopped talking about

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Speaker 1: the trade tsunami. And then it truly you want them

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Speaker 1: to that's what they do, the warning out for it,

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Speaker 1: right that the siren went off, and you know, right

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Speaker 1: justin the siren went off for the tsunami. And and

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Speaker 1: what I realized now is that we should have seen

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Speaker 1: this coming, because there's so many teams that you could

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Speaker 1: make a case for making a January run. Because the

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Speaker 1: league's so wide open, and the fact that in recent

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Speaker 1: years everyone's gotten way more open to making deals, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of trades, and we certainly have,

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Speaker 1: and there's just more cap space, and there's more gms

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Speaker 1: that look at successful teams, excuse me, like the Eagles

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Speaker 1: and the Rams and the Patriots who are always at

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Speaker 1: the top of the list in terms of the amount

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Speaker 1: of trades, and they say, why can't we do that?

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Speaker 1: And more to the point, I think they got they

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Speaker 1: got a little, uh, a little word from Roger Goodell

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Speaker 1: in the league office. This is a totally speculative and

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Speaker 1: off base guest here, and he was like, MLB trade

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Speaker 1: deadlines great, NBA trade deadlines, great, let's start picking it

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Speaker 1: up people entertainment. So what there was, Let's blow that

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Speaker 1: World Series off the front page. So there was a meeting.

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Speaker 1: So there was a meeting where ROX said you must trade. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We're good with the sire. I mean, I don't believe

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Speaker 1: And I I've talked about that a lot, that we

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Speaker 1: that the NFL doesn't match up in terms of free

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Speaker 1: agency excitement or trade deadline excitement. And now they're getting there.

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Speaker 1: They're definitely getting there, and we're gonna get into all

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Speaker 1: talking about the Roquan Smith trade. Uh two the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: thank you from the Bears, And that was just an appetizer.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna dig into all of the trades and

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Speaker 1: even the ones that filter out. Hopefully, hopefully there's a

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Speaker 1: real hammer drop in the next fifteen minutes. It's been

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Speaker 1: a little stressful. I'm not gonna lie. This feels like

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Speaker 1: I've been the less kind of like a half hour.

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Speaker 1: I've just been on a treadmill, and you know I

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Speaker 1: don't work out. So this is uh, you're a preparer

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Speaker 1: and the rundown of what we're gonna talk about evolving,

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Speaker 1: and it's a lot because who's done more live TV

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Speaker 1: in this room than Colleen Wolf. This is no I listen.

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Speaker 1: I am totally fine with breaking news. I can go

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I believe you always just your presence.

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Speaker 1: I am having some issues with the headset today, so

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Speaker 1: bear with me and your nails. I nails are very long.

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Speaker 1: I do this to myself, all right, my headphones. This

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Speaker 1: will get us kind of into the conversation. Trade deadline remix.

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Speaker 1: I think you look great with these nails, Greg, Lease,

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Speaker 1: try them on, give us a little tap, and other

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Speaker 1: people like top top Peru. Let's get into it, starting

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Speaker 1: with a major trade for the Miami Dolphins. Example, perfect example,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins of a team that is in good standing

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Speaker 1: my fantasy team away from Jonathan Taylor on Sunday. He

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Speaker 1: deal and we don't know if there's more to this. Story.

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Speaker 1: Oh there could be more more. Maybe there's something going

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Speaker 1: are obviously in a bad spot. And then you hear

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Speaker 1: things greggy about maybe the Steelers didn't were kind of

428
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: in love with Chase Claypool, the dude in the locker room.

429
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Speaker 1: And you get why this ended. And by the way,

430
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: said against the back backdrop of this is what the

431
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: Steelers do. They draft wide receivers, find good value, and

432
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: then move on. It's a Churn. But anyway, they sent

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Speaker 1: him to the Bears second round pick, though greggy he

434
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: was the second round pick. In is that a lot

435
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: for the Bears to give up for Chase claypool Pool

436
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: given what we know and what we don't it was,

437
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: But receivers cost a lot these days. I think you

438
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: need to think of them as one of the premier positions. Now,

439
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: look at how the how much a J. Brown in

440
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 1: the top shelf receivers cost? Now, then you look at

441
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 1: free agency, how much they cost. If you look at

442
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: the three free agency class, and I did like a

443
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: really first draft view of it a few months ago,

444
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: there's no free agent receivers available. Like it's impossible to

445
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 1: get young receivers except for in the draft, which is

446
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 1: why it's such an expensive pick. Most second round receiver

447
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 1: picks these days are hitting. Like I keep saying, like,

448
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, GM should just take receivers if they want

449
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: job security, because almost no one is missing at receiver,

450
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: and so in that sense, it is an expensive pick.

451
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: In Claypool, I think it's been up and down in

452
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: his career. He got replaced essentially by a similar but

453
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: better player in George Pickens. But I like that the

454
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: Bears are trying to do something, so I don't have

455
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: like a strong take that this is some bad move.

456
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: They get him for a year and a half. It's

457
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: kind of like that trade for Hockinson too. It's not

458
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: building for the future or exactly right now. It's a

459
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: little bit of ball. Can I just say before Connie

460
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: jump in here that it is a second round pick

461
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: and the Bears, unless they get hot here, that's probably

462
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: a top forty pick. Right. It makes a lot of

463
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: sense for this team. So the Steelers have to be

464
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: thrilled considering pick Kins is locked and loaded to be

465
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 1: that dude next to this second round pick is the

466
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: one that they got in the Roquwan to the Ravens deal, right,

467
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: so they still have their second round pick. I overlooked that,

468
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, this is for me. I thought something

469
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Speaker 1: else you're putting into context that this trade should not

470
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Speaker 1: be looked at in a vacuum. No. No, I thought

471
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Speaker 1: at first that it was going to be. It was

472
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: pretty rare. I'm pretty sure it's the pick that they

473
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: got in exchange, which makes much more just sent it away.

474
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: And to think that you were doubting yourself on any

475
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: level before the show still in doubting myself. I just

476
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to prepare your gang. Oh no,

477
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: she's a nineties flapper again. Um, yeah, So I don't know.

478
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: I think, like he first seeing, I was seeing a

479
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: lot of like Bears wouldn't trade a second round or

480
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: Bears would trade a second round pick for Claypool but

481
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 1: wouldn't use one on George Pickens, and the actual draft,

482
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of interesting. But the fact

483
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: that like the Bears get to keep their own pick,

484
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: and Claypool's younger and Roquan wasn't even going to resign

485
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: in Chicago anyway, so it's time. I'm glad. I'm really glad,

486
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because and then you have

487
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: to look at those two trades together, that they essentially

488
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: traded Roquan Smith for Chase Claim. It always annoys me

489
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: when people say the Eagles traded up for DeVonta Smith, Like,

490
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: why did they do that? No, they didn't. It was

491
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: part of a package of picks over two days that

492
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: together they actually ended up moving down and picking up

493
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: picks and getting You gotta look at it all together.

494
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Get me a life jacket. Developing news. Uh,

495
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: the draft pick being sent to Pittsburgh is Chicago's pick.

496
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the only way it would

497
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: make sense. Like, I still look at it. I'm so

498
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: glad you brought it up because I still think you

499
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: look at those trades in tandem. I think the point

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00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: stands for the most part that you look at these

501
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: two trades in tandem. They still have a second round

502
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: pick they down. I think it's true. I'll tell you what,

503
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't have time to triple source. Hey, that's what happened.

504
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: It's trade deadline day. That's what happens. All right. He fits,

505
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: he fits what Justin Fields does. Well. You can kind

506
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: of see it Justin Fields playing better. You're seeing a

507
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: vision of it. He throws the ball deep down the

508
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: field really well your Mooney and Claypool. Okay, Like you're

509
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: starting to have something. That was my kind of winning.

510
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: My point was what we saw with the trades by

511
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: Chicago of ro Quan and Quinn was they are totally

512
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: down to just blow up the defensive side of the

513
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: ball and start over um. But on offense, they have

514
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: a vision. It's justin Fields. Uh, they have some guy

515
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: pieces in the backfield and a wide receiver they like.

516
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: Now they add a guy that they can lock and load.

517
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: Is like a number two wide receiver. It's a different

518
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: it's a different thing for them between the offense and

519
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: the defense in terms of how they're for you, would

520
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: you say justin fields as a winner here, I would

521
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: say yeah, I would say the winning tiger blood. All right,

522
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: Moving on another wide receiver trade. Remember Calvin Ridley. Calvin

523
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: Ridley I forgot about. Not not the yeah, not the

524
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,719
Speaker 1: the pop hit maker, the dance pop guy, that's Calvin Harris.

525
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: But Calvin Ridley was a wide receiver and a good

526
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: one once upon the time, a first round pick, a

527
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: rising star in the league, who then made a stupid

528
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: decision to gamble, uh using an app on an NFL game.

529
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: It was a parlay. I believe it didn't involve the Falcons.

530
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't believe did involved Falcons beating the Jaguars. It's

531
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: so funny and so it was anyway, you can't do that.

532
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: So we got suspended for the entire season, and the

533
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: Jaguars said, oh, this guy seems like a dude we want,

534
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: So they acquire Calvin Ridley from the Falcons for two

535
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: future conditional draft selections. Really also missed the end of

536
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: last year dealing with mental health issues. So there's a

537
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: lot going on with Ridley Connie. But he is a

538
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: very good receiver. And the Jaguars are a team uh,

539
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: still very much building for tomorrow. Uh. They they spent

540
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: a lot of money on Christian Kirk and different pieces

541
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: on that offense, but apparently they're still tinkering with the

542
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: model around Trevor Lawrence. Um. Yeah, so I think I'm

543
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: just looking at it from the Falcons end of things first,

544
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: because after they drafted Drake London, it just didn't seem

545
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: like they absolutely needed to bring him back. He was

546
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: kind of rumored to be moved before everything went down

547
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: before the suspensions were interested, yes, because Philadelphia was as well,

548
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: and then they brought in a j. Brown, So this

549
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: was something that was going on that was in the

550
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: works for I think quite some time, especially dealing with

551
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: the mental health issues at the beginning at the end

552
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: of last season. So it definitely makes sense from the

553
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: Falcon standpoint as they try to move forward. But he

554
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: is a talented, talented player, so that's only going to

555
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: help things with Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville.

556
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: Calvin really had hundred and seventy four yards and nine

557
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: touchdowns two years ago as a six year old. He

558
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: is lightning fast. He is exactly what you want out

559
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: of a number two type of receiver, or he could

560
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: be a number one. He can win on the outside,

561
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: which the Jaguars just don't have anyone that can do that.

562
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: Uh So it all makes sense to me that it's

563
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: worth the shot if he wants to continue playing football.

564
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: And the picks are incredibly complicated, and I wonder why

565
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: this doesn't happen more like we make our sandwich props

566
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: very complex. I feel like at times two complex. I agree,

567
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: But how come like the trade terms aren't complex like this?

568
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: And this one kind of is. It's it's a that

569
00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: can move to a fourth depending on whether and when

570
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: he's reinstated, So there's some protection if for some reason

571
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: he's not reinstated and hasn't done the terms. We don't

572
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: know exactly, you know, if he'll be back next year,

573
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: but you know, I think that the hope is he'll

574
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: be back. The other pick can be a second round pick,

575
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: and I believe it only occurs. It's either a second

576
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: round pick or nothing if the Jaguars give him a

577
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: long term deal, So the trade has to I mean,

578
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know if it's arbitrary, but

579
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: it's definitely creative. It's like saying, what constitutes a long

580
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: term deal? Another contract? I would I you know, so

581
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: any any type of additional contract does. It's a good question.

582
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: What if they just signed him to a one year

583
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: My guess is that would still qualify. But basically, if

584
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: he does well enough that he signs a second contract

585
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars, they get a second round pick, which

586
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: is it's like, okay, that's a fun this from Drew

587
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: behind the Glass. If Ridley makes the team in the

588
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: second pick will be worth worth at least a fourth rounder.

589
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: That's the yeah, the fifth to the fourth playing time

590
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: milestone converts the pick to a third rounder, and the

591
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: Jaguars will give up second round pick if the team

592
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: strikes a long term deal. So it's like like there's

593
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: condition on condition. It's a wild trade. It's kind that

594
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: it's like it's like there's something right, there's there's actually

595
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: like one more condition if he if he flips the

596
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: parlay around and this time he picks the Jaguars to

597
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: beat the Falcons and the Jaguars win, then it's a

598
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: first round pick. Now my head hurts. No, that was

599
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: that Justin was laughing at he was with me, and

600
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean clearly they wouldn't put the part because it

601
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: ties into you know that happening. I like that. I

602
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: like that the Jaguars are desperate. They need some out

603
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: and receiver said that was good. Uh winning developing news

604
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: deal with the Buzzer. A Chiefs have traded cornerback Rashad

605
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: Fenton to the Falcons. Per source, Venton was recently replaced

606
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup and uh, the Chiefs have gotten

607
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: good play out of their rookie cornerback, so he was

608
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: deemed expendable. So he heads to an Atlanta defense that

609
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: has needs right now in the secondary. See even that,

610
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: I know Atlanta is not in it to win it,

611
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: or I'm sure they are, but they're like, man, we

612
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: want to we want to get some. We want to

613
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: get some. We want to get some help in our

614
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: back end because we can make the playoffs if a

615
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: couple of things break our way. So two teams they

616
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: can move trying to get me, even if they just

617
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: continue sustaining what they're doing right now because the division

618
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: is so bad, Like I like it. Fenton's played a

619
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: lot and played pretty well, and they they're trying to

620
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: get a playoff spot. But it points to what you

621
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: were saying Dan at the start of the show. Look

622
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: who's making these trades today. The Bears are acquiring players,

623
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: the Jaguars two and six is acquiring player, granted you

624
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: know he's not available this year. And now the Falcons

625
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: are acquiring players. It is a little confusing, like who's

626
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: the buyer and the seller here that the Chiefs are

627
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: the seller and the ultimated move. They got Zack Moss today, Yeah,

628
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: him sixth round picking. That deal too unbelievable. Conditional pick

629
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: two or is that the sixth round pick? Yeah, that

630
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: was the condition the conditional pick. Hey, the Steelers acquired

631
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: William Jackson and the conditional seventh round pick from the

632
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: Commanders for a conditional uh, sixth round pick. So that's

633
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: like the lowest it's a pick swap in three years

634
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: with conditions on the third day of the draft, which

635
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: is truly the lowest. It's essentially giving him away. Uh,

636
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: it's as low as you can get. Here's a little

637
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: bit of a flop by us in terms of the

638
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: run down, and I don't point any fingers we could

639
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: have done it if we work together on a Jeff

640
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: Wilson also um involved with a trade, So the Dolphins

641
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: got Chubb and also Jeff Wilson from the Niners for

642
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: round pick. Okay, why are you moving off Jackson so quick?

643
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: I thought that one was actually kind of interesting, just

644
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: because he was the top cornerback in free agency two

645
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: years ago. It's a very Steelers move. And I know

646
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: he didn't work in Washington. A lot of people don't

647
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: work in Washington. I know there's a lot of commanders

648
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: in Washington. Mark would tell you some people in the

649
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Pentagon aren't doing their work in Washington. Just he's a

650
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: he's a he's a quarterback with some high traits, high

651
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: level trades. They got Joe Hayden. I remember in a

652
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: spot like this when people thought Joe Hayden was kind

653
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: of done at and got like three great years out

654
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: of him, and they're getting him for you know, the

655
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: next year he's going to be paid twelve minute. I'm

656
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: just saying, that's that's a good deal of business, you Steeler.

657
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: Their defense has given up the second most passing yards

658
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: per game UM and their top corner with her spoon.

659
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: He's missed the last four, so they needed We wouldn't

660
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: have had that research used by Connie if you had

661
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: back into Jeff Wilson, Clay clay Bone, and Rank. I

662
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: was eating lunch with them today up at the old Huddle,

663
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: and they mentioned they got a hot new segment on

664
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: Fantasy which people are really enjoying called Dropped, and they

665
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: do it like chopped, and that in each of the

666
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: last two weeks, the player that was featured and dropped

667
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: was then immediately traded by their actual NFL team. This

668
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: time it was Jeff Wilson, so maybe they're watching. What

669
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: else came out of this lunch, Uh, Well, we talked

670
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: about the strategies of how we all eat multiple lunches

671
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: at the huddle, UM, because the portion size isn't like huge,

672
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: and we all like to eat. Some of us get

673
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: two at a time, some of us get the soup

674
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: with the meal. Some of us me and Rank Spreading

675
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: have like an early lunch and then a late lunch.

676
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: You know, that's I think nutritionally. That suggested as well

677
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: a series of smaller meals throughout the day. That's great.

678
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: And you, I know you and Claibon are known to

679
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: have lunch together. But adding Rank to the mix, that's

680
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: quite a trio. Developing news on Dan's right off. No,

681
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: this is developing news. I think I think Tuesday's our day.

682
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: I think it's only come together two or three times.

683
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: I gotta I acknowledge something. I was coming upstairs after

684
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: changing after doing my now hit. I saw them dining together,

685
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: and I had some work prep work to do, but

686
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: I was grabbing lunch too, and I said, you know what,

687
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: that table looks pretty set. That's the table is pretty

688
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: filled up with people. So I was gonna maybe come in,

689
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: but they seemed to really be enjoying chopping up their conversation,

690
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: so I said, I'm gonna let them do their things.

691
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: Did you go to the locker room? And I went

692
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: to the locker room. Wait, the two of them or

693
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: the three of us? It was the power trio with

694
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Rank and claib And I said, I don't want I

695
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: don't want to mess with that chemistry because it looks

696
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: like something is there. I mean, that's an interesting spin

697
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: on this situation. Another way to analyze it. Would be

698
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: like Dan didn't want to sit with us. This really

699
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: takes me back to the cafeteria in high school, which

700
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: gave me, as you guys could imagine, the worst anxiety.

701
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: And that's why he did it. All you kids out

702
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: there don't try to be on the A List. And

703
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: you know what winners and losers from this. I mean,

704
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: I think Rank and Claybonne and I we all won winning.

705
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: I think. So that's what I'm saying. It looks so

706
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: um like you guys are really hitting it off as

707
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: a new power trio that I didn't want to feel like.

708
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of like relying jealousy here. You

709
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: can look at that way. I know that I don't

710
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: believe they saw me. Maybe I would have been invited,

711
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: but I can't be I didn't see. My back was

712
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: to write, but that's not what it's about. Is good

713
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: to hurt your friend? I have Honestly, I thought what

714
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: they had going there was good. Guys. I was going

715
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: to say that Mike McDaniel really loves bringing forty niners

716
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: running backs. What about I had about lunch tables in school?

717
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: I think that that was good forget about the A List.

718
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: It's too. That's too much. There's so much heat. There's

719
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, back, backstabbing, and it's sometimes

720
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: bad vibes on the A list. Go for the B list.

721
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Oh you mean in high school? If you're on the

722
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: B list and I was a B List All star

723
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: in high school. You can navigate with the A list

724
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: on occasion, whether it's through sports teams or the occasional party.

725
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: You could dip down to the sea or even the

726
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: dealist if you just like people that aren't socially gifted, um,

727
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: and then you hang out with all the bees, which

728
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: are some of the more interesting, unique kind of layered

729
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: people in the world. Are from the Bat's saying that

730
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: the rapid not always but sometimes yes, But I'm saying

731
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: people aspire. I need to be on the A list.

732
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: In life, I think the best thing to do is variety.

733
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: Like you want to diversify your portfolio. I think you

734
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: you want to try and be on all of the

735
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: lists don't fit into Maybe don't view life as like

736
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: a tiered system values stop. Life is about rankings in

737
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: so many ways. Anyway. Dolphins acquired Jeff Wilson from the

738
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: Niners for round pick. Jeff Wilson, and you know, of

739
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: course as someone who was starting for the forty niners

740
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: earlier the season when Elijah Mitchell was injured in Week one.

741
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: Then Chris McCaffrey hits the scene and makes Wilson expendable.

742
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: So the Dolphins add another piece, yep. And with Chase

743
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: Edmonds going to Denver as part of the Chub deal,

744
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: then this just makes sense for Jeff Wilson to be

745
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: brought in to take his place. That's right, Chase Edmonds could. Uh,

746
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: by the way, I'd be a little frisky fantasy wise. Yeah,

747
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of helping manage my kids teams after the

748
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: star Edmunds in Denver. Yeah, oh and six. And I'm

749
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: thinking about that Denver backfield and not a lot of

750
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: juice there. And I would say Chase Edmonds has a

751
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: little more juice, whereas Jef Jeff Wilson will be a

752
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: nice backup for moments like you're trying to coach up

753
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: your kids fantasy teams now after you the GM, you

754
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: were so hands off that they just drafted horrific teams.

755
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: Gotta be more hands on before the draft, and I

756
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: wanted them to have fun and do their own thing.

757
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: And then yeah Walker duh wow winning. Uh yeah, he

758
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: should not have named his team after many after Tom

759
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Brady in the year two, then drafted him first and

760
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: then Mac Jones second. Poor fantasy strategy. In other news,

761
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: the Broncos acquired Jake Martin from the Jets along with

762
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: a two thousand round pick um in exchange for a

763
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: two thousand fourth round pick. The Jets signed Martin to

764
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: a three year deal earlier this season, but he has

765
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: been buried on a very deep depth chart for the Jets.

766
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: So kind of a minor trade, but it is a trade,

767
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: and that's what this episode is about. And speaking of

768
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: trades that unless you have something to add about Jake

769
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: Martin something one trade that didn't happen other than Brandon

770
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Cooks and the archer is not happy about it. Um,

771
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: the Rams offered this is a report out there? Where

772
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: was this from? This chefty? What the Rams offered two

773
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: first round picks for Panthers? Uh pass rusher Brian Burns.

774
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: It was it was Albert Brier, but it was like

775
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: Albert Brier in a radio interview that someone else heard

776
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: and then transcribe. I'm always a little wary of like

777
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: how come Brier. He did say I confirmed that I

778
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: did the double sourcing. He did say it, But like,

779
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: how come he didn't come out with this report. It's

780
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: like maybe he didn't, you know, that's moved fast in

781
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. Maybe he had a column that ordinarily you

782
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: know if he if he learned it on Wednesday, that's

783
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: the game works. Either you're trying to what are you saying,

784
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: like what is your point? Then then he maybe doesn't.

785
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: He didn't. It wasn't like he wasn't saying it with

786
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: his chest. If he wasn't going to report it fully,

787
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: then you know it's it's not right, or maybe yeah,

788
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: there's there's different takeaway here. Don't trust anything you hear

789
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,479
Speaker 1: in a radio in view it's not written in print

790
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: first or a text. Trusted trust a little fair enough. Anyway,

791
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm mad about this because I had a sandwich prop

792
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: that the Rams at the trade deadline would add a

793
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: pass rusher, essentially to replace von Miller, and they tried,

794
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: like hell apparently to do it. I'm a little surprised

795
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: they were willing to offer so much less need the man,

796
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to do all on this

797
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: because it didn't happen, but at this point he's just

798
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: leaning all in into his identity. If I hate first

799
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: round picks to the point where it's like he's gonna

800
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: give up two first round picks, or Brian Burns like Greg.

801
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: I know Burns is like one of those guys that's

802
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: better than most people realize. Uh, but I feel like

803
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: both sides got this one wrong. If it actually was

804
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: something that happened, I tend to agree that's too much,

805
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: even for a premier pass rusher, because you would have

806
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: to pay him immediately. So you're also making him one

807
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: of your other RAMS stars and you're giving Dan sandwiches

808
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: from my pocket and that's a that's a loss. I

809
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: would be a loser, but now I'm a winner. Wow winning? Um?

810
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: All right, they're also super in the future. Well, he's

811
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: spoken a few times and we haven't really got My

812
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: favorite moment not to cut you off Justin, which last

813
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: night I want to do is Justin tried to talk

814
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: on our Monday night recap people should check out with

815
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and Nick cut him off and said, did

816
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: I hear something to me? It's like Nick Westling, what

817
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: a great job? Nick? Did it? Oh? I don't know

818
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: if I can stand for that. But the point is

819
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: these are very far in the future picks five, like

820
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: will even be alive by then? Come on, what are

821
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: what are you Kyle Sayingahan, I hope so these future

822
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: picks three years? Well, these future picks are funny because

823
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: people always say, well, pick that's like second, like that's

824
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: the math, it's somehow worth it. And I said, no,

825
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: that's not true. Only if you think you're gonna get fired,

826
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: like if you're Howie Roseman and Bill Belichick. I feel

827
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: like those picks are still first round picks as long

828
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: as you think you're gonna be there. Those deep into

829
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 1: the future picks are are great. And Jeremy Fowler said

830
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: that the Rams included cam Akers in that two first

831
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: round pick packets. Did you say it on a radio

832
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: interview or tweeted? Um, I think it might have been

833
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: in print. Wait, I think cam Akers. Maybe I shouldn't

834
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: have sidetracked the show for for that point. I think

835
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: that's a fair I got a meeting coming up saying,

836
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: I know you gotta go. Cam Akers would would be

837
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: a loser in this situation, he set out practice. He

838
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: tweeted out that he misses football reportedly, they've got to

839
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: just bring him back. Now, yeah, that doesn't work typically.

840
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: And then yeah, the Rams, I think are our losers

841
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: here because look at what they tried to do. They

842
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: tried to get Burns, they tried to get McCaffrey. They

843
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: didn't get either. And meanwhile the Forts have stole their identity.

844
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: The forty niners are now the win. Now we're cool.

845
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: We have the top tier talent. We got McCaffrey when

846
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: we got all sorts of stuff. I like it, and

847
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: you tweeted at So you can't trust your point even more.

848
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: Never trust anybody in a radio in it. But if

849
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: they say it on a podcast, you might as well

850
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: just erase it from your mind entirely. Podcasts are a joke.

851
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and we'll hit Thursday Night Football Preview.

852
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. We have survived the trade tsunami.

853
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: If anything trickles out at this point, we'll let you know.

854
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: But now let's turn our attention two Week nine and

855
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: a reminder, this TNF preview is presented by Prime Video,

856
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: the new exclusive home for Thursday Night Football. Week nine.

857
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: How about it? The Philadelphia Eagles undefeated seven and oh,

858
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: and now they go to Houston to get the Texans.

859
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: To me, the worst team in football. Uh, Brandon Cooks

860
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: probably would agree at this point. Um, so here is

861
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: another great set up for the Eagles. Connie, you are

862
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: a Philadelphia sports fan through and through. We talked about

863
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: it on the Power Rings podcast today a little bit.

864
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: Are you annoyed with me that I don't have them

865
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: at number one in the Powerings? It's two? And I

866
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: think you are, but you're being classy about it. But

867
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: at the same time, I gotta say, it's like, if

868
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: there are three truly awesome teams in the league and

869
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: we're getting sidetrack from the game a little bit, but

870
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: real quick, and two are the Bills and the Chiefs,

871
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: and they're not on your schedule, and you're the third team, Like,

872
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: the schedule is going to be incredibly nice for you,

873
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: and it's amazing. They could be seven and oh and

874
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: then look at their next three, four, eight games or

875
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: whatever and still see smooth sailing. They're never gonna be

876
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: an underdog in the regular season. This has been the

877
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: story the entire season though, that their schedule is soft

878
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: but they still are good. Two things can be true

879
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: at once I agree with that. I believe that I

880
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: think the Bills are the best team in the NFL.

881
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: And that's coming from me as a Philadelphian through and through.

882
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: It would worry me having these two teams played each

883
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: other because they are both so talented. But what the

884
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: Eagles are doing on both sides of the ball right

885
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: now is something that I haven't seen in so so long.

886
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: A J. Brown, Howry Roseman has done such a good

887
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: job just bringing in A J. Brown And now that's right,

888
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Howie mother, He's great, and so A J. Brown has

889
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: just been He's just been such a dream to watch.

890
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, Grave Digger, I know that this one

891
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: hurts a little bit, but my goodness, he had three

892
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: first half touchdowns, I mean a hundred and fifty six yards,

893
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: like he was so good in this game, and Jalen

894
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: hurts like everything is just working. And I've said it before,

895
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: but I can't remember the last time that the Eagles

896
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: had a dominant number one wide receiver like a J.

897
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: Brown at the same time that they had good players

898
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: in the secondary and on defense. And then they bring

899
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: in Robert Quinn as well, just because it's like, hey,

900
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: why not, let's just like bringing a pass rusher to

901
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: really drive home this defense. And it's it's just it's

902
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of crazy when there does the desert say about

903
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: this one. By the way, Gregor, it's thirteen points, which

904
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: is surprisingly low to me. I figured we're getting seven,

905
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: We're getting up to seventeen maybe plus for the first

906
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: time this year. Didn't happen, Graver. You pointed out the

907
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: Texans going into last week had outscored their opponents in

908
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: the first three quarters of games by like twenty points.

909
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: And so I think that's part of it that on paper,

910
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: the Texans haven't looked as bad, you know, for most

911
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: of the game as their record said. But they also

912
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: just had about seven yards going into their final drive

913
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: against the Titans. And they've won one game this year

914
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: and the archer is shooting arrows from inside the building.

915
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: Things are gonna be on fire. Yeah, And I you know,

916
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: the A. J. Brown thing, not only after watching the

917
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: game yesterday, not only did he have three touchdowns they

918
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: basically shut it down on the second half the Eagles,

919
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: but he still almost had a fourth that was waved

920
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: off by a penal t and then he almost had

921
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: a fifth where he got caught from behind, like this

922
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: guy could not be covered by Pittsburgh. And now we've

923
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 1: kind of lost a little bit in the DeVante Smith

924
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: has been a little bit more quiet now after we

925
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: were having that conversation about who's the number one receiver.

926
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: But these are the these are the rich people problems

927
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: of the Eagles. They have so many talented players, and

928
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: I can't say enough about Jalen Hurts. Like Greg, you

929
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: one of the reasons you were so high on them

930
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: in the off season was this idea that what if

931
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: Herbs does make the leap and he's just so comfortable

932
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: in the pocket, he's accurate, he's just it's it's incredible

933
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: to watch his maturation and see what it really looks

934
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: like when a guy makes the leap in earnest and

935
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: I think Brown's skill set matches up so well with him,

936
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: Like he's willing to throw those go balls. That's the

937
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: best ball he throws, and Brown just goes and gets it,

938
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: so you have confidence doing it. I mean the celebration

939
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: that he got penalized for a j Brown for pointing

940
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: the two bestions one of them is in All Pro

941
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: and Minka Fitzpatrick point away. I mean they they're so

942
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: good right now. They got their starters out of the

943
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: game before anyone played forty five snaps. When with Thursday

944
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: night football going up, you never know which defender is

945
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: gonna have a great game. It's like they have eight

946
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: or ten different guys that could One week it's it's Reddick,

947
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: and then it's Josh Sweat and they're like, oh yeah,

948
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: Josh Sweats on a multi year like long term deal.

949
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: Then one week it's hard Grave. They lose Jordan Davis

950
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: for four to six weeks. We should have mentioned that

951
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: on Sunday. That is a big loss for them, But

952
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: they're just so deep that it feels like it doesn't matter.

953
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: You're not gonna find any open receivers. If you're Davis Mills,

954
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: they'll probably play better this week just because they can't

955
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: play any worse. But man, the thirteen does does not

956
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: seem like enough because the Texans defense has quietly taken

957
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: a step back. Last year they were this year, they

958
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: were a little frisky. Last year, they're not really frisky,

959
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: and they're going up against one of the best rushing

960
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: teams UH in terms of success rate of the last

961
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: ten years. They're amazingly the Eagles are worse than they

962
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: are at rushing than a year ago when they had

963
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: the highest success rate. Nate Tye pointed this out in

964
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: the last ten years, and now they're like the sixth

965
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: best team of the last ten years in terms of

966
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: success Right, They're just like a great, great running team,

967
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: which sets up the past. Yeah, and just seeing Jalen

968
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: Hurts in the same type of offense two years in

969
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: a row like that is one of the things that

970
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: he lacked throughout his career. And adding all of the

971
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: pieces that they did around him, like you absolutely can

972
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: see him grow and develop. And that has been the

973
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: number one question about this team moving forward. That's why

974
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: how he made all of those deals so he would

975
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: have that draft capital to use in case they needed

976
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: to go get a quarterback next season. But now they don't.

977
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: Now he just has the Saints pick. And I want

978
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: to push back slightly, Dan on the schedule thing. I mean,

979
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: right now, the numbers say the NFC East through eight

980
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: weeks is the best division in football history in terms

981
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: of record. It's not. But but that's crazy. So you

982
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: still got you guys have been trying to talk up

983
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: New York to me. I don't think they're great, but

984
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: you got them twice. You get you got to Dallas, Yeah,

985
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,479
Speaker 1: you got. You got the Titans in there. That's gonna

986
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: be tough. You got the Packers. I know it's at

987
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: home on Sunday Night football. Maybe by week twelve the

988
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: Packers are fighting, so there there are some games coming up. Yeah,

989
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: that's the first. I'm not going to actually conclude the

990
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: Packers because they've been legitimately bad this year their first

991
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 1: eleven opponents Detroit, Minnesota, Washington, Jacksonville, Arizona, Dallas without dak Pittsburgh, Houston, Washington, Indie,

992
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I'm not taking I'm not taking away nesson

993
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: because not only have they won the games, they've stomped

994
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: their opponents, and I got respect for that, and I

995
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: wish it was my team. So it's not that. It's

996
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: just something that I keep my eye on and why

997
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: I don't have them at number one in the power

998
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: ranks despite being the only undefeated team now for weeks

999
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm looking forward to the Eagles because

1000
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,800
Speaker 1: there's such a fun, exciting team getting punched in the

1001
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: mouth and what happens next well, see, I look at

1002
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: the schedule two different ways, and I can't decide which one.

1003
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: I kind of want of follow which way because I

1004
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: think about the fact that, yeah, it's a soft schedule,

1005
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: and when they finally do play a quality opponent, a

1006
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: really tough opponent, are they going to get smacked in

1007
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: the face. But also, this game is so mental, and

1008
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: that's what we always hear from the players that played it,

1009
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: in the coaches and everybody else. And if they are

1010
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: playing like this throughout the entire season by the end

1011
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: of the season, if they still are like this at

1012
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: that point, aren't they just like a well oiled machine

1013
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: and mentally they are just winning these games before they

1014
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: even play them. Yeah, going to the Giants and going

1015
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: to Dallas, you still have this thing. Are going to

1016
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: be hard. It's not a brutal schedule, but it's hard enough.

1017
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: And the key is they're the favorites for the one

1018
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: seed by a decent amount, I would say, and the

1019
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: one seed is a free playoff win. And maybe there's

1020
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: something about like the rest where you're sitting out, I don't.

1021
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a thing just happened to

1022
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: Andy Reid a few times. Going to lose at some point,

1023
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: I know, but they're probably I would. I really think

1024
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: they're heavy favorites for the one seed and that's a

1025
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: playoff win right there. You skip the first round and

1026
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: only two teams get to do that. It's has got

1027
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and Dan Marino on Monday Night. It would

1028
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: have been great to have like a week thirteen Sunday

1029
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: night game against the Bills, but maybe we have to

1030
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: wait until February for that. How about Chris Christmas Eve,

1031
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, Kevin Burkhart at Dallas. Okay, I'll take it,

1032
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: all right, I'll be a Pittsburgh that day. It is tough.

1033
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: It all sounds like a massive jinks all the way. Also,

1034
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: by the way, we're not assuming they're going to stay undefeated.

1035
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: But it sets up well for somebody this week. And

1036
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: that's why I'm lucking can't do it? Somebody, wake up,

1037
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: Mercury Morris. All right, that was the t NAF preview

1038
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: presented by Prime Video. The new era of Thursday Night

1039
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: Football is officially here and it's only on Prime Video.

1040
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: Good stuff? Good up? Did we get But it's okay?

1041
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: I told them, yeah good. We had some odds and

1042
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: ends news. I m that we didn't get to a

1043
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: couple of coaches got fired. But yeah, we're gonna get

1044
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: to all that on on Thursday show All the news. Wait,

1045
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: we do have some developing news, Stou and this is

1046
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: going to change everything. Let's hear it. The Bills have

1047
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: acquired safety Dean Marlowe from the Atlanta Falcons exchange in

1048
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: exchange for a seventh round pick. That is not a

1049
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: name that Mark Sessler made up. Let's let's read, let's

1050
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: redo the show and lead with this. But if you

1051
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: are just joining us, name Hys headed to the Bills,

1052
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: Zach Moss headed the other way, and it is a

1053
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: draft pick, a conditional one six. That's right, Where's Mark?

1054
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: Hopefully Mark will be with us on Thursday. Connie, as always,

1055
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: thank you for everything you do. You do, you've simply

1056
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: put You've said it on that's exactly, won't I don't know?

1057
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: All right, goodbye until yeah, there's the Thursday. Thank you

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Speaker 1: everybody for listening. Sincerely until then, he the call