1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Ron and Anien. You know yesterday gentlemen coming into the 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: shop and he wants to talk about his car that 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: in order to get at the start, and he has 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: to sometimes open and close the driver's door. We'll stand. 5 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I won't back damn the car Doctor. You can't be 6 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: emotional fixing the car. You just gotta look at it 7 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: and go, Okay, what can't it be? And then I'll 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: know what it can be. Welcome to the radio home 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in the 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: your call at eight five five five six and now 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: he running. Hey, it's time to start your engines. Hello 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: and welcome Ron and Ating the Car Doctor here at 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero, taking 18 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: your calls and answering your questions at A five five 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: zero nine zero the Car Doctors seven on all the 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: time phone number. We're looking forward to your calls each 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: and every week. We really are, so just give a 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: call if you're not able to call us, or if 23 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: you're in the market that maybe you're or maybe you're 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: taking a show by podcast and um, you know you're 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: taking it on the late broadcast and an outside market. Uh, 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: no problem. Just call eight five five five zero nine 27 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: zero zero, leave a message and Tom Ray will call 28 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: you back and get you in the line up for 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: the next live show. And yeah, we know some of 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: you hate to get up or you're nervous to get 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: up here on radio and talk about it. But you 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: know what, I'll be gentle. I can absolutely promise you 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: in twenty seven years doing radio, I haven't lost anybody yet. 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever fainted, nobody's ever jumped out the window. And 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to educate everybody with questions and answers. 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: So hope of your question will help educate someone else 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: as well. Mr Ray has a comment. I just wanted 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: to say if when anybody wants to get who was 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: nervous about getting on the phone and talking to you, Um, 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: forget about the radio aspect. You're talking to your best buddy. 41 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: You're talking about the guy who knows cars, and just 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: get on and have a car tat. That's that excellent analogy, Tom, 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: And that's that's all this is. This is just about 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, we're just a couple of guys or a 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: guy in a gal or whatever it is, and we're 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: just sitting around talking about cars and um, you know, 47 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: just just just solving the problem. That's that's all we're 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: here for. It's no egos here, just fact as uh 49 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: as I like to say, how long should a car 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: part last? Did you ever think about that? You know, 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 1: how long should it last? Or? More appropriately, how much 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: do you trust your mechanic? Do you really trust them? 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Have you ever been in that scenario where well, let 54 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: me ask you the question this way. You're listening to 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: this show. You maybe you're listening to the show a 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 1: good long time. If I was your mechanic and I 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: kind of think I am, I'm your I'm your weekend mechanic, right, 58 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: and um we sit here and we tell talk about 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: cars all the time. You and I. You trust me, right, 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: I mean you've got to you keep coming back for more. 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: Either that or you're just looking for entertainment value and 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: you're thinking what a dope this guy is. It's there's 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: there's gonna be one another spectrum of the other there's 64 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: no one between. So how much do you trust your 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: mechanic and do you take what they say as as gospel? 66 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Two thousand six Nissan Frontier came into the shop at 67 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: our Automotive this past week. I talked about this car 68 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: last weekend. I wonder how Walt from Maui made out 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: trying to do the timing chain on his daughter's quest. 70 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: I hopefully he turned it over to a pro. And 71 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: I had to do a timing chain on this Frontier. 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: How to do a timing chain? Tension ers reseal the 73 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: front cover and and you know, I had a lot 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: of engines apart in my life. But the problem becomes, 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: engines today have gotten very unforgiving. Alright, one wrong move, 76 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: one slip of the ranch, one one missed Q, one 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: misplaced bolt, and all of a sudden you've got this 78 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: big pile of scrap sitting in front of you. That is, 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, in comparison to a seventy to chevel, just 80 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: so much more difficult to get in and out of 81 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: that engine bay as the obviously has changed over the 82 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: past fifty years. And you just don't want to have 83 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: any mistakes, no, no, no, no screw ups allowed. So 84 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Nissan Frontier, how to do a timing chain. The timing 85 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: chains where howling, The guides had worn down to a nub, 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: and it sounded like a supercharger, which, by the way, 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: if you're driving a V six Nissan and it sounds 88 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: like a supercharger under the hood, best analogy I could 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: give you is if it sounds like you're driving behind 90 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: a a city bus which has a supercharger on it 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: and it's got that wine to it, you may need 92 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: timing chain, tensioners, I'm sorry, timing chain, guides, chains and tensioners, 93 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: the whole shebang. That's what it turns into. And that's 94 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: what I had to do to this Nissan. And it's 95 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: I always think of it as you know, it's as 96 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: delicate as trying to do open heart surgery, except now 97 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: the guy's the guy's not you know, under anesthetic, he's 98 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: awake and he's talking to you. So I did this 99 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: timing chain. It was I've done it before, you know, 100 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: disconnected mattery, bringing around the top, chains off, cover off, 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, cover off, chains off, tensioners off, change the guides, 102 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: chain back on, and so forth. I go through the drill, 103 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: just you know, go this way, go that way. Get 104 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: rid of your parts. Lining up the top, no bent valves, 105 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, no problems. Car goes back together, players right up, 106 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: no problem. And the charging light is on, you know, 107 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: like and I'm looking at him going but the charge 108 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: light is on. What um, let's see what did I do? 109 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: Did I disconnect something? No? I never have to. I 110 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: I take the fourteen and the twelve out of the alternator. 111 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: I slide it over to the side. It just sort 112 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: of lays there in the frame cradle and you you 113 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: pick it up when you're done, and you bolt it 114 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: back in place. You hook the battery up and you're done. 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: You're good to go. The charge light was on, and 116 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: the bulb's got to be defective. There's gotta be a 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: problem here, Like, huh, what's the number one rule? Gang 118 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: right picks the car that's in front of you. Quit 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: your complaining, got out the vault meter. It's showing battery 120 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: volta's twelve two and sinking. It's it's dropping fast. I 121 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: know the car is running off the battery. But wait 122 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: a minute. And you know, the little kid in me 123 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: is going but wait a minute, wait a minute, wait 124 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: a minute. All we did was disconnect the battery and 125 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: take apart the timing shame. But the adult in me 126 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: is going, well, you know, let's let's because parts only 127 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: last until they don't. And maybe that's what happened here, 128 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: And what about the customer? And the customer is gonna 129 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: be It doesn't matter what the customer is. You know, 130 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: we've got to deal with reality. And that's what I 131 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: mean when I say it can't be emotional all right now. Fortunately, 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: I'm in a position after doing this forty plus years 133 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: I can honestly say I don't think I don't work 134 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: for anybody that doesn't realize what we're about. I'm in 135 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: that spot and I'm very grateful and I thank God 136 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: every day that he kind of put me there, and 137 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's a good place to be. 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: So I have a very good relationship with the greater 139 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: majority of my customers, and the ones that I don't, 140 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: they tend to go way and that's okay because there 141 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: seems to be always another person willing to jump in 142 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: the seat. So I diagnosed it out, and you know, 143 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: I've got power on the pink red, I've got I've 144 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: got power on the light blue. I've got power on 145 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: the heavy battery feed coming down. I've got a bad alternator, 146 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: and you know, there's that little kid again going But why, 147 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: but why? How could that be? Because because it's a 148 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: great word in order to repair, all right, it really is. 149 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, why did the car do that? Because you 150 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: know it's just it just ends the conversation right there, 151 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: and then you can look for the details later on. 152 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: So I next day I came back in. It was 153 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: late in the day. I stayed late Monday night. It 154 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: was actually past midnight when I was done. I stayed 155 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: very late Monday night. I almost stayed un till Tuesday. 156 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: On Monday, so and um, you know, got to that 157 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: point where took it back apart, pulled the alternator out, 158 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: looked at the wiring again, nothing was unplugged. It's got 159 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: to be an alternator. Took the alternator out, put it 160 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: on the bench, flipped it over, and I'm not going 161 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: to name names, but yet it was a Reman alternator 162 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: that looked like it had been in there for quite 163 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: a while. And it was funny. There was a sticker 164 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: on the bottom of the alternator that said charging problems 165 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: called five. And I'm thinking maybe I should call these 166 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: guys and tell him what a piece of junk they made. 167 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: But you know, it was about three years old. And 168 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: that's what I see out of some of the poorer 169 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: quality electrical stuff out there, if you get that far. 170 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: And I put in a nice attache oe alternator and 171 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: started up, and the light went out. And the moral 172 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: to the story is, you know how long parts last 173 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: until they don't. And that's what I've been saying to 174 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: you for years. Right, it's you know, my dead dog 175 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: that wasn't dead yesterday died today. I was coming home 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: last night, I went to I stopped in downtown Ramsey. 177 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: If everyone Ramsey, New Jersey and you're looking for good barbecue, Um, 178 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: what was it? Bob Kat's Texas Barbecue on Main Street 179 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: and Ramsey. Oh my god. All right, you walk in 180 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: the door and smells so much like hickory. You want 181 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: to get your clothes dry clean there so you can 182 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: walk around smelling it all day long in your shirts. 183 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: All right, nicest bunch of guys had some great barbecue. 184 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm driving back and I'm watching my cell phone and 185 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: the cup holder of the truck. For some reason, it's 186 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: starting to reboot. You know, I'm thinking this is not 187 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: gonna end well, right, it just just just doesn't look 188 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: like it's going to be a good thing. And I'm 189 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: watching my cell phone boot over and over and over. 190 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: Finally comes up in safe mode. Do you wanted to 191 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: come up in safe mode? I can diagnose this. Let 192 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: me turn it off and see what it see what 193 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: it does again. I turn it off and it starts 194 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 1: going through the cycle again, and I finally got it 195 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: to come back up, long story short, by putting it 196 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: in the freezer. All right, I froze my cell phone 197 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: because that lowers the temperature of the electronics and it 198 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: changes things. And sure enough, after that, I got at 199 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: the boot up and I was able to do a backup, 200 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for the new phone. The point becomes, 201 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: all right, how long does things last? Until they don't? 202 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: And it just happens. And that's the way you ought 203 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: to repair is you know, you're doing this open heart 204 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: surgery at this end of the vehicle, and the only 205 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: coincidence is that it's attached to the rest of the 206 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: vehicle that you're working on. And another part fails. Did 207 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: it failed because the battery was disconnected? Because when I 208 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: unbolted it. I moved it a little to the left. 209 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think it was it's time, 210 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's It's like all of us when 211 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: God says it's over, it's over. Game out, game ends, right, 212 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: and told the customer, he said, what are you gonna do? 213 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: He got it and we move on. And it made 214 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: me stop to think how many of you would accept that, 215 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: and a lot of you would probably tell me, well, 216 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: the reason I don't accept it is because I don't 217 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: trust my mechanic, which brings me back to the first 218 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: part of this conversation where we started. If you don't 219 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: trust your mechanic, why are you there? And it's it's 220 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: got to be based on that. You know. Auto repairs 221 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: a relation ship. I've said this for so long I 222 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: could I say it in my sleep. Probably all right, 223 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Life is a relationship. Auto repairs a relationship. You're what 224 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: you have with your doctor is a relationship. You never 225 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: judge it by when things are going well. It's a 226 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: lot like marriage. You never judge it when things are 227 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: going well and you know everything is wonderful, and the 228 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: flower smell fresh, and you're on your honeymoon and life 229 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: is great. You judge it by when something bad happens. 230 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: When it's on the rocks. You judge it by what 231 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: happens and how well does that other person handle it, 232 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: and do they work to work with you and meet 233 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: it to your satisfaction and by za versa. That's a relationship, 234 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: told Gordon, Gordon the alternator died. I really don't know why. 235 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: Look it's it's it's about three and a half four 236 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: years old, maybe three, I'm not really sure, judging by 237 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: the date code here depends on what it was installed. 238 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: But it needs an alternator. What do you want to do? 239 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: He said, put in the best you got. Gordon gets it, 240 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if you get it, And that's where 241 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it. As we kick both this hour 242 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: of the card doctor, do you get it? Do you 243 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: trust your mechanic? And he understand it. Parts only last 244 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: until they don't last anymore. Eight five five five six 245 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero run a nating the car doctor 246 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: coming back right after this, welcome back? Why don't need 247 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: the car doctor? Rolling along? This hour? Day five five 248 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. By the way, this hour, Tom, 249 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: what are we doing? This hour we're giving away? Is 250 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: at this hour, next hour, we're giving me a twenty 251 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: five dollar rally Ooto Parts gift card. When are we 252 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: doing that? I don't know yet. It depends on the 253 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: decision of the judges. Is final, that's rights on the call, 254 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: depends on the topic, depends on Tony, you know. All right, 255 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: So it's but it's a twenty five dollar gift card 256 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: to Orillyoto Parts more information at oriley oto dot com. Okay, well, 257 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: let's say and unfortunately we're gonna have to do as 258 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: soon because Tony has already been looking at O'Riley site. 259 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: He needs something for his car. Yeah, you know, like 260 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: an engine. Um, let's go over and talk to Let's 261 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: go over and talk to Lance in Queens, New York, 262 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: oh five Hunda Santa Fe and some questions about headlights 263 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: and other stuff. Lance. Welcome to the car doctor, sir, 264 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: How can I help? Thank you for taking my call. 265 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Thanks for um um passenger side headlight it works, 266 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: but it's dim um. I'm thinking possible ground problem. Ground 267 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: I mean this is you know, this is basic electricity 268 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: or should be. So we're gonna use a vault meter. 269 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Do we have do we have twelve vaults on the 270 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: feet and do we have a good ground. And one 271 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: of the ways I would clearly want to check the 272 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: ground is if you have if you have good twelve vaults, Um, 273 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: why can't I just plug in? I have a test 274 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: head lamp on the shop. I also have a I 275 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: also have a load simulator. But the cheapest thing for 276 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: the do it yourself or is just go out and 277 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: buy an old square around headlamp, remember the old school 278 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: square around headlamps, and just just use that. It's a 279 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: great load device that puts anywhere from six to eight 280 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: amps load on the circuit. If that's a bad ground, 281 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: that'll still be dim and then at least you know 282 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: it's not the light itself, all right. But I also 283 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: september early just to see if it is a ground, 284 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: run a wire from the ground side of the bulb 285 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: to the chassis and the lights up. Fully, I know it, 286 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: that's it, yes, But before I did that, I'd want 287 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: to see a wiring diagram lens just to make sure 288 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: there's no computer involvement. There probably isn't, but I've seen 289 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: so many different things over the years that I I 290 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: want to see just what the manufacturers doing on any 291 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: vehicle before I start to arbitrarily rewire it, so to speak. 292 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: So get your hands on a wiring diagram. And yeah, 293 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: if they're just showing straight run the ground, ground is ground. 294 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, all right, question a little more, a 295 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: little more challenging. Um, the last four times when we 296 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: filled up the car, didn't matter if the car was 297 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: totally empty or three quarters in a way or whatever. 298 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: If it doesn't matter if we filled it up all 299 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: the way or filled it up halfway. Go to start 300 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the car. The car is hard to start. I have 301 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: to hold my foot down on the gas pedal. I'll 302 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: get it to get it to catch. I'll rev it 303 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: a few times. Um, it'll only store out one or 304 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: two times. Then I'm catching and will go on. Once 305 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: that happens, the entire tank of gas. It will run perfectly, 306 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: first starts, first time, every time until I refill it. 307 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: All right, Any dashboard warning lights on, any check engine 308 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: light or anything like that. No, I borrowed a scanning 309 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: a scan tool from a buddy of mine. Uh no codes, 310 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: no pending codes. Okay, go over the lift the hood, 311 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: go over the passenger side of the engine. There's gonna 312 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a purge valve. The evaporative canister Perche 313 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: solenoid they have. They have a nasty habit of sticking. 314 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a there's gonna be a two wire 315 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: connector and a two line vacuum harness going into this. 316 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: It's just behind the valve cover on the passengers side, 317 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: just behind the oil fill cap. You'll see this. You'll 318 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: see the strut tower of the oil fill cap and 319 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: then the purge valves. It's just behind that against the 320 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: back of the cylinder head, disconnected on the vacuum side. 321 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: One of those is going to be a direct vacuum 322 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: fee to the intake manifold, figure out, figure out which 323 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: one it is and plug it. All right, drive the car. 324 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: See if the problem goes away. If it is the 325 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: canister perge valve is sticking, very common, very very common. 326 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: All right, you can you can't go through and you 327 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: know you can. You can do some powers and grounds 328 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: and see if see if the you know, if the 329 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: if the solenoid sticks, so on and so forth. But 330 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, the number one hard start on a Hyundai 331 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: that generation was a Perche solenoid that's stuck open and um, 332 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: you know with with the engine at idle, you'll you'll 333 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: see that all the fuel and vapor is being drawn 334 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: in that way instead of you know, by normal means 335 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: through the engine itself. You may even find that you 336 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: may find residue of gasoline in the purch hose because 337 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: it's actually drawing fuel up out of the tank. Yeah, 338 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: like I said, it only happens when you fill it. 339 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: Once you fill it started and get it running, that's it. 340 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: It's fine, right, Well, it has to do with um 341 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Hyundai's programming for how it will run the purge valve 342 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: and you know, shutting it off can trigger it. So 343 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: on startup it's gonna draw and fumes up to a 344 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: certain point. The problem is the valive. The valve sticks 345 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: open once it gets past a certain level of vacuum 346 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: and it just continues to draw on it. Just it's 347 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: just like a big siphon and a gas can. It's 348 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: just wanting an extra fuel. That's why stepping on the pedal, 349 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: you have to put the pedal all the way to 350 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: the floor, as if it was an older car with 351 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: a carburetor and the choke was stuck and it's flooded, 352 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: right Yeah, and that's you're just drawing extra fuel and 353 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: that perch solenoid is the issue. Very common, just very common. 354 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: Would not would not be surprised. I would be surprised 355 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: if it's not that. I mean, it's always possible. Um, 356 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: but like I said, you can check there for powers 357 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: and grounds too. But if I'm not mistaken, it's a 358 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: fairly cheap part. And if it's twelve years old, like 359 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: whether they have oh five, ye, it's twelve years old 360 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: at this point. Change if if disconnecting it solves it, 361 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: then you're in the right area. You're just gonna make 362 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: sure you've got power and ground and if you do, 363 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,479 Speaker 1: it's a bad perch solnoid. Alright, thank you so much. 364 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: You're very welcome Lands. Um. Yeah, I mean just just 365 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: quick and basic, down and dirty diagnostics. Sometimes that's um. 366 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes that's all it is. Just went through this quick piec. 367 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: I've been trying to do this email for two months 368 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: now from rich and Lansing, Michigan. He wants to know 369 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: what percentage of regular oils is synthetic, constitutes a synthetic blend. 370 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: He also says he's using multile religiously, but he also 371 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: wants to know about Penn's oil. Can I elaborate on 372 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: that a little bit? And um, you know, so, yeah 373 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: I can't. As a matter of fact, I will as 374 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: soon as the Car Doctor returns right after this zero 375 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: zero run any of the Car Doctor. Don't go away 376 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: fulcome back? Want any of the car Doctor here? By 377 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: the way, get out to the Car Doctor Facebook page. 378 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: Run on any in the Car Doctor. We're answering some 379 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: questions as well as watching that every day. But I 380 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 1: gotta tell you Facebook has changed a little bit. It's 381 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: a little bit confusing where the messages and the photos 382 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: and the videos appear. And um, so be patient you're 383 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: dealing with um you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm just 384 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: not able to keep up with how fast Facebook changes 385 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: their technology around. So but yeah, we are on Facebook 386 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: out on Rondanini and the Car Doctor. So we're taking 387 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 1: questions there as well. We're gonna answer some of those 388 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: right here on the show today. Yes, problem is your ancient? 389 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I'm I'm old. Um, but you know what, 390 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm a good mechanic. I can usually figure it out. 391 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. After you take the computer apart, 392 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: I'll come back in and put it back together, right 393 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: and then I'll make sure I know how to turn 394 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: it on so they can actually use it. So let's 395 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: go back to the question. Richard from Lansing, Michigan wrote, 396 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: he had some questions about percentage of regular synthetic, what 397 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: constitutes a synthetic blend, And he's also talking about how 398 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: he uses mobile but he also hears me talking about 399 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: Penn's oil and he wants to know my thoughts on that, Richard, 400 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: and for everybody else out there, I'm not sure what 401 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: the percentages I've heard. I've heard upwards of and some 402 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: blends or types of oil I've also heard. The issue 403 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: comes back to, you know, why would you use a 404 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: synthetic blend? And this is just my way of thinking, 405 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: all right. I think synthetic blend was created as a 406 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: marketing device to draw people towards a better grade of 407 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: oil that couldn't necessarily afford synthetic, but wanted to be 408 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: a step above conventional. I get that, and maybe it's 409 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: got it's place in the marketplace, but I'd be curious 410 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: to see how and what if any of the numbers 411 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: have grown in the last ten years, because personally, I 412 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: think it's either conventional or synthetic. I don't stock synthetic blend. 413 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't use synthetic blend. Uh, you know what again, 414 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: depending upon what part of the country you're in, and 415 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: and and you know what's your budget. But I look 416 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: at it this way. If if a quart of synthetic 417 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: is gonna cost you a dollar and a half more 418 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: per quart, and it's four quarts, it's an extra six bucks. 419 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: That extra six bucks, go to Starbucks one last time, 420 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: all right, go to and and you'll get that much 421 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: better protection for the car. It's just that important difference 422 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: between mobile and Pen's oil from this mechanic size. Um, 423 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: I pour them both, all right. We pour pens oil 424 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: on a higher volume basis because more people seem to 425 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: want it. But I can tell you that one of 426 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: the concerns I have with Mobile one is of late, 427 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, I've noticed the Mobile 428 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: one coming out of the engines darker. I don't know 429 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: if that means it's scrubbing a and doing a better 430 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: job of cleaning, or I don't know if that means 431 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: that it's not doing as good a job of taking 432 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: care of what it's supposed to do when it's breaking down. 433 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: I I can't tell you which way that goes. Why 434 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: Pens Oil because I still look at the way oil 435 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: is made and Pen's Oil their base stock is a 436 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: natural gas derivative. They start from a cleaner based stock 437 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: of oil. It's it's sort of like mom made chicken soup. 438 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: If she started with a with from a fresh chicken 439 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: carcass and she started with a pureer based stock, she 440 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: made better soup. Pen's oil starts with a better based stock. 441 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: They make better soup, they make better oil as a 442 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: result of that. The oil is cleaner to begin with. 443 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: Less impurities means better oil as time goes on. I 444 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: also look at the engineering, and I'm sure there's a 445 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: lot of oil companies out there that have great engineers. 446 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: I think Pens Oils are right there with them. All Right, 447 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: you're buying the engineering that makes the oil, not just 448 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: the oil, and you've got to realize that too. So yeah, 449 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: Pen's Oil, natural gas oil, Pens Oil Synthetic. Find out 450 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: more pennz Oil Synthetics dot com. But definitely worth taking 451 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: a look at. And I hope that answers your question 452 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: for you. Richard. Thanks, I very much appreciate it. Let's 453 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: go over to Roguan Banger Main Chevy Aveo and burning 454 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: oil issue. Rogan, Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How 455 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: can I help? Hi? Uh? I was calling in a 456 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: friend who her name is Bill Vertolo, had gotten some 457 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: help from you in years past and recommended you. Okay, great, 458 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: let's see what I can do for you. Well, okay, 459 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: so the issue has been just bought this in a 460 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: personal sale, um a couple of months ago so, and 461 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: it had presented with the problem maybe a month and 462 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: a half ago. And over the last three weeks it's 463 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: burned about a quart of oil off, but it's not 464 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: puddling when it's sitting overnight in any meaningful way. So 465 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: to me, to my mind, that means that as an 466 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: internal burn somewhere. But I'm just not really that familiar 467 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: with the actual inner workings of the engine. So I 468 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: was just and the thing that I'm trying to understand 469 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: is it will burn really badly after it's been sitting 470 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: for a long time, like three or more hours. But 471 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: if I'm doing short trips, like if I go to 472 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: Walmart and then I go over to another store, it 473 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: will stop burning in between those times. Okay, when you 474 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: say burning, you're you're gauging that based on you're you're 475 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: seeing smoke out the tailpipe broken, Actually not at the tailpipe. 476 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: I thought, first off it was something with the cataletic converter, 477 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: because this car has a front end catallytic converter and 478 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: a rear and catalt converter, and right where that converter 479 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: and it's a converter manifold piece where where that meets 480 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: with the flex pipe, it was it was smoking out 481 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: of that joint, and so I thought, well, maybe the 482 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: converter shot, and so I checked that and that seemed fine. Well, 483 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: so it's but wait a minute, So so it's got 484 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: an exhaust leak at that flange. Yeah, okay, so it's 485 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: got an exhaust leak at that flange and you're seeing 486 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: its smoke there all right, or you're seeing something there, 487 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: but you're never seeing anything out the tailpipe, not anything 488 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: other than just clear exhaust. And it has a decent 489 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: pressure coming out of that tailpipe. How much all are 490 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: you going through a court? And what? Uh, probably a 491 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: little bit close to the six but yeah, something like that. Okay, 492 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: so we're burning a court in five miles and it 493 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: seems to be predicated on how long the car sits. Uh, 494 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm questioning, are you seeing blue smoke, 495 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: white smoke, black smoke, gray smoke, or color smokey getting 496 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: out of that flange? When it starts the leak, it's grey, 497 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: it's gray, So you know, is it is it? Is 498 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: it oil? Probably? Does it matter? Not really? You know, 499 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: why is it there versus coming out the tailpipe? I 500 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: don't have that answer, UM, and I don't care. UM. 501 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: I would be more concerned why there's an exhaust leak 502 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: there and look more towards fixing that if I was 503 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: interested in anything, because my concern becomes that an exhaust 504 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: leak forward. It sounds like it's closer to the cabin, 505 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: and you know, we can talk about exhaust affixiation because 506 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: of an exhaust leak so close to the cabin. There's 507 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: cases where it's drawn in either through the heater and 508 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: winter's coming um or driving with a window down. And 509 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,719 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's reported cases of people getting drowsy 510 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: and dope and passing out behind the wheel because they 511 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: sort of gas themselves. Um. You know, it kind of 512 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: depends on how bad the leak is, but just just 513 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: be aware of it. Uh, you know, it's it's it's 514 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: not something to just say as it's just smoke and 515 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it, but you know you have 516 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: to and only you can tell that because you know 517 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: how bad the leak is, where's the oil going, how 518 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: many miles are on this Uh, it just hit. So 519 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: one of the key requisites that I would be curious 520 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: about is do you have any serve records on this car? 521 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: Unfortunately I don't. I know it's been in one accident 522 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: minor superficial damage on the front end, but that's all 523 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: I know as far as like regular maintenance and now that. 524 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: OK so, what's possible. We gotta talk in terms of 525 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: possible and probabilities here, Rogan, because there's no real way 526 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: to know more more than likely this has an oil 527 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: ring or or a piston ring problem. Okay from what 528 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: you're describing. You know, if this was a valve guide 529 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: issue or a wear issue up in the cylinder head, 530 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: it would be more likely that the leak would occur 531 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: all the time. But the fact that it's there, sometimes 532 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: based on temperature, sometimes based on how you drive it. 533 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Um is generally showing relationship to pressure on the crank case. 534 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: How much loads on the engine. Where's your foot? Is 535 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: your foot through the headlighters your foot, you know, halfway 536 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: or you just cruising along under you know, normal power. 537 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: It's based on load on the engine too. So it 538 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: would be impractical at this point, eight years old, hundred 539 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: thousand miles to say I just take the engine apart 540 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: and just check pistons and rings, rewring the motor. You're 541 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: ready to put three grand in the car? Probably not right, Yeah, 542 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, that's sort of the catch. So we've 543 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: got to try and create a miracle. And one of 544 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: the ways we're gonna try and do that is we're 545 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: gonna try and unstick uh sticky rings by using a 546 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: better grade of oil, not knowing what they used, and 547 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: just driving the car and just going under the assumption that, 548 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's cheaper to throw a quart of oil 549 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: in it every five miles sometimes than fixing the car 550 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: quart of oil five bucks. You know, um, take the 551 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: engine out grands. You know, you start to weigh that 552 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: in your head and you go, okay, maybe this is 553 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: maybe this is what I've got to do for the 554 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: next couple of years in order to get by. So 555 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: I would get very picky about oil. This is a 556 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: conversation about general motors has gotten very very picky about oil. 557 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: Like a lot of the car companies. I want to 558 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: make sure it's something dex sos rated. Um. Obviously, I'm 559 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna tell you go take a look at Penn's Oil, 560 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: Pens Oil Synthetics dot com and see what they've got. 561 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: And um, one of the things, here's a case of 562 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: Penn's oil. Pen's oil. Motor oil has some very unique 563 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: properties in that it will help scrub away, contaminate, and 564 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: varnish better than most out there. And I have seen 565 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: cases where continued use of Penn's oil can promote You know, 566 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: it's it's got a great scrubbing action to it as 567 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: one of its as one of its characteristics, and it 568 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: will help scrub away, varnish and contaminate and make a 569 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: cleaner engine over time. All right, Is it gonna happen overnight? No, sir? Um. 570 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: Can I guarantee you absolutely that it's definitely gonna happen, No, sir, 571 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: But as long as you've got to put oil in 572 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: this car, you might as well go with the best. 573 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: And you know what, if it works out, it works out, 574 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: And if it doesn't. At least you were trying and 575 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: we all feel good about that, right, Um, you know 576 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: where you know where I'm coming from. Oh yeah, definitely. 577 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: I just one follow up into that. I mean, that's 578 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: pretty much what I had been going along with, and 579 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: that was what I was gonna do, just kind of, 580 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully that that would do. What is your 581 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: take on additives to oil, so something that claims to 582 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: be able to help seal up leaks in the engine internally? 583 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: What do you What are your stands on that? If 584 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: I was General Motors, if I was standing here as GM, 585 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: my official position is I approved no editors for the 586 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: crank case and GM. GM has more than a few 587 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: bulletins out there that referenced just that. All right. If 588 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: I was the guy trying to get by on the 589 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: three thousand dollar car and make it last as long 590 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: as I possibly could, I'd probably give it a shot. 591 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean, honest answer, I'd probably do my best to 592 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: just just to see what will it do? All right? Um, 593 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: you know knowing that I'm I'm taking some risk and 594 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: there's some potential for problems. So but um, anyway, that's 595 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: where it is. Hey, you know what Rogan Tom just 596 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: gave me the high sign. We're gonna send you out 597 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: that O'Reilly ot to Parts twenty five dollar gift card 598 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: good at any O'Reilly Auto Parts at oriley oto dot com. 599 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: It'll help you buy some of that Penn's oil oil 600 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: that we're talking about, and maybe some of those editors 601 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: that you want, and maybe that helps put your car 602 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: on the on the path towards a better future. And 603 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: we hope everything works out for you. Stay on the 604 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: line while Tom gets your information and you can look 605 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: forward to that gift card from the folks on O'Riley 606 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: Oto Parts. I'm on any in the car Doctor. We're 607 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: back right after this, Back the car Doctor. I'll be 608 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: good to you too if you just give us a 609 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Qualita five five five zero nine zero zero. Let's talk 610 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: about your car problem, hey, Ron. Once a tire has 611 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: a plug in it, can that plug be removed in 612 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: a more permanent patch be installed? Thanks Joe faulis Um. 613 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, Joe, that's a great question. I gotta tell you, 614 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: forty three years of fixing cars, twenty seven of them 615 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: on radio, nobody's ever asked me that question. And I 616 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: thought about this for a while before I answered it, 617 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: and the answer has to come back to it depends 618 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: on how that plug was installed. Now, I'm going on 619 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: the assumption that the reason you put that temporary retire 620 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: plug in was because maybe you were on the road 621 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: and you picked up a nail and you just you know, 622 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: you have to put something in there temporarily to get 623 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: to where you gotta be and then get it permanently fixed. 624 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: But if the tire plug, if the tent plug was 625 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: put in because it's in a bad spot, it's on 626 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: the outer edges of the tire, Putting a permanent patch 627 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: in there doesn't matter. It doesn't help you at that 628 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: point in the game. So the answer is, yes, it 629 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: can be removed, provided that the exterior surfaces of the 630 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: whole don't have debris and material stuck to them. Because now, 631 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: for example, the temporary plugs that we use self vulcanized, 632 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: they melt into the rubber, and removal can really be 633 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: per snickety, which is the high tech college word for 634 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: what a pain in the butt? All right, So if 635 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: the plug can be removed and the material of the 636 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: plug also removed from the hole, and then it can 637 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: be reamed, yes, then I've seen no reason why that 638 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: tire can't be patched again. Again, it depends on whose plug, 639 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: whose glue, how well did it vulcanize, and what plug 640 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: patch are you putting in it? Because there's only there's 641 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: only a few, in my opinion legit good ones on 642 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: the marketplace today. So but that's the way it works 643 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: for me. And do I still believe in tem plugs, Joe, 644 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, between you and me, Yeah, I do. I 645 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: still use them from time to time. I'm not happy 646 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: because of it, um, But if it's the you know, 647 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: a case where I'm stuck on the side of the 648 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: road or I'm gonna have to throw away a perfectly 649 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: good tire, I will cheat and use a temp plug 650 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: on a short term basis just to get it to 651 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: the point where I can replace it. So you know, 652 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: it does happen. That's real world Zo n zero the 653 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: car Doctors coming back right after this welcome back, we're 654 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: on anting of the car Doctor. Let's finish up the 655 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: email pile. Um. And in reference to some of the 656 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: emails we've had this uh this hour and some of 657 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: the conversations we've had, you know, when we talk about 658 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: pen's oil, you want to take a get and consider 659 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: pens Oil Ultra Platinum their best all right, depens Oil 660 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Ultra Platinum is their best oil. More information at penns 661 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Oil Synthetics dot com. So here's a Here's an email 662 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,239 Speaker 1: from a caller. Caller took uh, I took his car 663 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: to a dealer. I took my car to a dealer 664 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: for an oil change. He's heard bad things about bulk 665 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: oil as the dealership with random oil they used, and 666 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: was told very curtly that it was approved by the manufacturer. 667 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: That the conversation is ended. My thoughts, um, yeah, my 668 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: thoughts are what are they hiding? All right? You know what? Um, 669 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: You've got a judge of repair shop by their intention 670 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: and I say it all day long, all right, it's 671 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: it's it's not when things are going good. Let's say 672 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: you judge the judge by things are going bad, and 673 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: right off the bat they can't even handle an oil change. 674 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: And a couple of questions about what they're doing. There's 675 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: no law written. There's no law written to my knowledge 676 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: that requires a repair shop to use correct oil. The 677 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: proof would be in the pudding. It would be common sense. Uh, 678 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: you know what. In thousand miles later, whatever it is 679 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: when the engine fails, proved that it was the wrong oil. 680 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: Proved that oil was the cause of the engine failure. 681 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: So a lot of word to repair. You know what 682 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: it's like being a good boy scout? All right, it's 683 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: you gotta be a good scout. You gotta do the 684 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: right thing. And you know best example I can give 685 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: you of a dealership using the wrong oil years ago, 686 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: probably ten twelve years ago, Volkswagen. Volkswagen writes a very 687 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: specific spec v W five O two for the Royals 688 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: and either get five oh two or five oh four, 689 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: depending upon what it is. You have to use very 690 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: specific oils, and it's very expensive. And one day a 691 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: customer asked me. They said, how come your oil changes 692 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty dollars at the time ten twelve 693 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: years ago for this particular Volkswagen and the dealership is 694 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: doing it. And I said, gee, I don't know. I said, 695 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: let's take a look at that. When I called up 696 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: the parts department where I purchased parts from to work 697 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,240 Speaker 1: on volkswagens, the parts guy said, I'll tell you the secret. 698 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: I said, what's that? He goes, We're using the wrong oil, 699 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: and I said how can that be. You're the v 700 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: W dealer, And he said, because nobody ever checks, And 701 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: he goes, do you all we're using works? He gets 702 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: the car fruntil it's out of warranty and then we 703 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. It's somebody else's problem, 704 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: but we're keeping the customer and making the money. You 705 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: know what a repair shop, I don't care who they are, 706 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: as only as good as their intention, and it's only 707 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: as good as the people inside. So if you've got 708 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: your mechanic answering questions about oil and you don't like 709 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: the answer, find another mechanic. And it's as simple as that. 710 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: Until the next time I'm on a needing of the 711 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.