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Speaker 1: the down of the Cowboys. I was never cowboy minded.
Speaker 1: What do you mean cowboy mind? I never had boots.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I mean. I didn't have around stampede. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hang around the farm. My dad did. But I didn't
Speaker 1: hang about the farm. I didn't even hard to go
Speaker 1: to East Texas. I was just a brother from the city.
Speaker 1: I was the same way growing up in Irving. You know,
Speaker 1: I thought a cowboy hat was a cowboy helmet, right,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I thought I thought a cowboy had
Speaker 1: had a star on it. Actually, my relatives, based on
Speaker 1: my mom's side, they rolled horses and black cowboys. They
Speaker 1: got the hats and and I did not get into
Speaker 1: that at all. It just didn't interest me. Man, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: But you know what cowboys that I'm listening to, that
Speaker 1: stamping its sides. It took me right back to the
Speaker 1: Ice Bowl. I started feeling some frost spike there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a Cowboys and the Packers inside the SUBC podcast
Speaker 1: studio on a fabulous frigid football Friday, brainy Friday. It is,
Speaker 1: It's gonna get more frigid. Yes. By the way, we
Speaker 1: need to thank the veterans y Veteran's Day. Who has
Speaker 1: uh family in the service? Not currently? My father was
Speaker 1: in the service. Was two uncles lost his life in
Speaker 1: the service. Oh man, that's crazy. My dad, my nephew
Speaker 1: flew and he you know, how are they get out?
Speaker 1: And and he you know, just flies? Uh commercial commercial? Yeah,
Speaker 1: dad was actually a pow really yeah, how long from
Speaker 1: January through April? And you well how were you? No? No,
Speaker 1: I will before the World War two? Going back, this
Speaker 1: was this was the Big War. Yeah, yeah, came out
Speaker 1: ninety five pounds. Wow. Wow. Well, uh, it started off
Speaker 1: in France and I think it might have migrated to Germany.
Speaker 1: They moved him, yeah, like at night so they couldn't see.
Speaker 1: They put him in box cars and he was able
Speaker 1: to tell you these stories later. Finally he didn't like him.
Speaker 1: He didn't like talk. Yeah, and a lot of others,
Speaker 1: I mean I they did. With the little town in
Speaker 1: Florida where he was living. They had a like a
Speaker 1: World War Two veterans celebration every year and uh. And
Speaker 1: it was real small town and the newspaper would come
Speaker 1: and interview the different guys. So they interviewed my dad
Speaker 1: and I'm reading the story and I'm going, how come
Speaker 1: I never heard that? It's like one of them. They
Speaker 1: asked him what it was like. So he landed on
Speaker 1: Omaha Beach d Day two, so June eighth, not the sixth,
Speaker 1: and uh. They said something. They asked him a question,
Speaker 1: what's your first thing? You remember when you landed on
Speaker 1: Maha Beach? And he said, well, we got in the
Speaker 1: water and we had to try to take the beach
Speaker 1: and it was pretty secure, but not and he goes,
Speaker 1: the guy next to me got his head blown off,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, what about me? Yeah, in all these
Speaker 1: years and I got to read it in a paper, Dude.
Speaker 1: They have that kind of thing to where you can
Speaker 1: get something out of them that they just didn't ever
Speaker 1: tell their family. They didn't talk about it. You know,
Speaker 1: it was just an accepted thing that you know, we
Speaker 1: fought in the war, and you know that's the way
Speaker 1: it was. My dad never talked much about nothing of it,
Speaker 1: but just how they how that generation is. He never
Speaker 1: talked much about this football career at all. I just
Speaker 1: saw a picture there. Never really it was like, that's normal.
Speaker 1: Don't talk like I know, I know my dad's on
Speaker 1: the podcast. Oh my, my dad did have a gift
Speaker 1: to gather. I told you. You know he's from Louisiana Cajun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was a great mix an Italian Cajun. Oh
Speaker 1: well yeah, they they they a lot of them migrated there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: coming in. That's good work down there. Man on the pier.
Speaker 1: His parents were from um from Sicily, from Palermo. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But so thank the veterans, yeah, service and everything you've done.
Speaker 1: Family in France. Yep. All right. So we got Cowboys
Speaker 1: and the Packers pack five on Sunday afternoon and picked
Speaker 1: the click. I'm ready. Where were you watching the ice ball?
Speaker 1: Probably sitting up there watching a black and white TV.
Speaker 1: That's right. We would went through that already this week.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy on his birthday last night, fifty ninth birthday,
Speaker 1: he celebrated it by taping his TV show and had
Speaker 1: a new and a new and a new episode. How
Speaker 1: he celebrated. Yeah, okay, hey, why he's right because he
Speaker 1: was home alone. That's right. He kept talking about home
Speaker 1: alone because his wife and I guess the kids to
Speaker 1: green Bay. I've already gone back. This is for the
Speaker 1: McCarthy family. This is the homecoming man. They probably have
Speaker 1: the homecoming moms and everything, right, forty or fifty's responsible
Speaker 1: for that's right, he said. Actually it was good. He
Speaker 1: goes like it was a peaceful, a peaceful evening, and
Speaker 1: I got a lot of good sleep because then I
Speaker 1: have to worry about anybody else. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that he told me that it would be great
Speaker 1: for the team is because with the temperatures falling here
Speaker 1: in the Metroplex, when they work out tomorrow before getting
Speaker 1: on that charter for Green Bay, they will be able
Speaker 1: to simulate the weather in Green Bay, which will be
Speaker 1: in the thirties come kickoff, and it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: in the thirties tomorrow here. See, I was wondering if
Speaker 1: if he was gonna, you know, baby him, you know,
Speaker 1: pamper them and just let them go. Well, I'll guarantee
Speaker 1: you the packers aren't practicing outdoors because they live there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they don't play you know, they only play half
Speaker 1: the season there. And he made it sound like they'll
Speaker 1: go ahead and do their workout tomorrow outdoors. So what
Speaker 1: what do you Packers? They I meant the Packers, right?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's necessary the Cowboys to get used
Speaker 1: to the weather. No, you don't. Never thought that. You
Speaker 1: don't get used to the cold. You don't like that practice,
Speaker 1: you don't believe in that practice? No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think practicing is more important than getting used to
Speaker 1: the weather. Right, So, how snow? If you were the coach,
Speaker 1: tomorrow is going to snow on the other team, and
Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you the Packers aren't practice. Okay, if you're
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, yes, and we're going to set up practice
Speaker 1: for tomorrow before they get on that plane. How would
Speaker 1: you do it? Would you do it inside Ford Center
Speaker 1: or would you do it outside? If it's just cold,
Speaker 1: I'm outside like today. If it's like today and it's raining, no,
Speaker 1: not rain no. And if it's windy, I'm indoors because
Speaker 1: the wind can screw up a practice faster than anything else. Right,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure everybody knows what they're doing.
Speaker 1: That's unusual. I thought you'd be on the other side
Speaker 1: of or about snows once again. So if it's snowing
Speaker 1: in Green Bay, we just happen to get the weather
Speaker 1: here and it starts snowing here, you're gonna practice out
Speaker 1: in the snow, right right? No, no guarantee that. I
Speaker 1: see the I feel the sarcasm dripping from your lips.
Speaker 1: The packers, the packers don't go outside. Did you when
Speaker 1: it snowed in in New York? Did you guys go in?
Speaker 1: Damn right, I'm not indoors. We were doing well. You
Speaker 1: probably didn't have We didn't have it. Yeah. We were
Speaker 1: always in the meadowlands. We would practice. We would practice
Speaker 1: uh uh on the on the field, on the game field,
Speaker 1: in the stadium when the weather got bad because the
Speaker 1: turf could was no good. Yeah. Yeah. But but now
Speaker 1: that they have an indoor facility, I guarantee you they
Speaker 1: go inside. That's just I thought you old school I am,
Speaker 1: but it's silly, right, It's like, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: but if it's one hundred degrees outside, if it's one
Speaker 1: hundred degrees outside, I'm not going to practice my team
Speaker 1: outside in one hundred degrees you know that's common practice, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it is common practice. Well they practice indoors when it's
Speaker 1: one hundred degrees. Well, let's let's think about this Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: Was it three years ago maybe four? He saw the
Speaker 1: guys walking to practice in the snow, right, because they
Speaker 1: had to play a game in the snow on set
Speaker 1: on Sunday. You remember that, right? And then what happens
Speaker 1: if a dozen snow and then you waste it's gonna snow.
Speaker 1: So I mean he made them Well, I remember seeing
Speaker 1: the video one of the guys upset. He had all
Speaker 1: this hoodie on and everything, and he's walking to practice
Speaker 1: in the snow and he was masked. That Bill is
Speaker 1: making his practice in the snow to be accustomed to
Speaker 1: the to the then the game should be called off.
Speaker 1: You don't play baseball in the snow. That's good analysy. Well,
Speaker 1: I just think you know, oh, it's football. You got
Speaker 1: to play in the elements. Why there's no other sports
Speaker 1: that plays I wish you were around when I played.
Speaker 1: I tell you who plays in the elements. That's why
Speaker 1: they when they have the Super Bowl, they don't. They
Speaker 1: normally don't play anywhere where the weather is going to
Speaker 1: be bad. Same thing with football. Well it's a silly thing, right.
Speaker 1: I don't water down the basketball court and you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like slipping slide. They do water down the field. Well,
Speaker 1: I've seen that happen. Yeah, I'm just happy that my
Speaker 1: girls played basketball and not sucker. You didn't have to
Speaker 1: so when we went to go watch them play their
Speaker 1: basketball and volleyball, they're indoors sports and so you don't
Speaker 1: have to sit out in thirty degrees weather. That is
Speaker 1: one reason I wanted to be a basketball player, want
Speaker 1: to be Yes, I didn't want all that. All right,
Speaker 1: tell us about this injury report? What are we concerned with? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, there's not much. I still think Anthony Barr
Speaker 1: is really the only guy at this point that's for
Speaker 1: sure probably not going to play. Now. They he hasn't
Speaker 1: practice every day, and as Mike McCarthy kind of said,
Speaker 1: or I did, I've listened to him as doubtful and
Speaker 1: they make the official injury reports doubtful. Well, Mike said,
Speaker 1: everybody looks like they have a chance except for Anthony Barr.
Speaker 1: He kind of put it that way. I don't think
Speaker 1: he said have a chance, but uh, you know, he
Speaker 1: looks like he's I think he said he's the one
Speaker 1: that has the least chance of playing. So they've listed
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and Ezekiel Elliott is limited. Okay, Donovan Wilson
Speaker 1: is limited, but it's a tooth, so they'll take care
Speaker 1: of that. And then and tooth. Maybe he had to
Speaker 1: have a tooth taken out. I don't know, but it
Speaker 1: says tooth, so I'm assuming no one hit him in
Speaker 1: the mouth or anything like that. Um So yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: else is being listed as full except for bar dnped
Speaker 1: and limited, Norah Brown and Ezekiel Elliott. And did you
Speaker 1: see ze yesterday practice? I'm told he took snaps, not
Speaker 1: all of them, and I don't remember if I said
Speaker 1: this yesterday when when the practice reports it says participation.
Speaker 1: So when they say limited, he's not physically limited. He
Speaker 1: limited in how many snaps he takes. So it's okay
Speaker 1: to talk about him practice. And I'm thinking trouble here
Speaker 1: if you look about if you think about it realistically, Um,
Speaker 1: if he wasn't gonna play, or if they thought he
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna play, they wouldn't have given him snaps in
Speaker 1: practice and wasted on him when somebody else that would
Speaker 1: have to play um. So it sounds like he had
Speaker 1: some snaps. So that kind of gives you hope. And
Speaker 1: I think they'll take it to Saturday to see exactly
Speaker 1: where he is. I and you didn't see him practice.
Speaker 1: I think Noah Brown, I did not see that part
Speaker 1: of the practice. Yeah, because we were doing our show,
Speaker 1: I did, you did, and he was hot stepping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm telling he was hot stepping. He was trying to
Speaker 1: show I believe that he's ready because he took one
Speaker 1: and I was just, you know, we have just finished
Speaker 1: the show, I just gotten my lunch, and I was
Speaker 1: walking back by and talking with the young security guys.
Speaker 1: We were looking and he broke through on the offensive
Speaker 1: right side off tackle, dipped in, dipped back outside, and
Speaker 1: he was looking, We're going to say, ready to go.
Speaker 1: He looking like a thorough bad He was definitely trying
Speaker 1: to prove a point by you know, yeah shows, and
Speaker 1: I think and I even and I think Jerry even
Speaker 1: said on today on his on his radio segment that
Speaker 1: he thought Zeke was good to go. So we'll see.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wanted to make sure I wasn't keep
Speaker 1: it close to the vest and whatever doctor Jerry says
Speaker 1: on his radio, right, doctor pretty named, we named him
Speaker 1: that long time commerce to fruition. Right, get the injury
Speaker 1: report from Jerry Um. You know the last time that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys went to lambeau Field twenty sixteen, we all
Speaker 1: remember Dak. We talked about it earlier in the week.
Speaker 1: Dak did in that game. He had three touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: had the one pick Joe Thomas. Cowboys won that game
Speaker 1: thirty to sixteen. You remember what Zeke did in that game,
Speaker 1: I asked, I asked, I asked McCarthy. No, that was
Speaker 1: the game we were talking about with Pittsburgh. Okay. I
Speaker 1: asked Mike McCarthy last night about his memory of Dak
Speaker 1: in that game, because that's basically when he arrived as
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. And of course McCarthy been on the
Speaker 1: other side. And what McCarthy said, what I remember more
Speaker 1: than anything from that game was Zeke running all over
Speaker 1: us and he for one hundred and fifty eight yards
Speaker 1: of that Yeah, and that was that That's the same
Speaker 1: year that they met in the playoffs, right, and yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was at that game. Yeah, I was at
Speaker 1: that game. To me, that was a nice Mike remembers
Speaker 1: that game better he does. Yeah, Cowboys won like thirty sixteen,
Speaker 1: thirty to sixteen and Jared Cook game in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and then yeah, so you know what the great game,
Speaker 1: bad game come back. I went back and look and
Speaker 1: oh gosh, I wrote it down. I don't have it. Um.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys only have six guys on the
Speaker 1: team now that played in that game. Wow. All right,
Speaker 1: that's a good trivia question right now, let's do it
Speaker 1: right now. Dak xactly tiring because well you can count him.
Speaker 1: He's okay, there's four, but is he one of Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence demrcus okay, started fourteen Anthony Brown. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: believe that's it. Wow, that would be six six years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a heck of a game. Shows you the
Speaker 1: turnover how quickly. And I was talking about the game
Speaker 1: up there, not the of course playoff game of somebody
Speaker 1: else might have snuck in there. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it I just looked at the roster for the regular seasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it probably was the same. Yeah, probably not changed much. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And um, did you go to the sixty six NFLA?
Speaker 1: I did not, but I don't remember. And what what
Speaker 1: Mickey's referring to is not the ice ball, right, it's
Speaker 1: the game at the Cotton Bowl that it was played
Speaker 1: at home. It was the NFL championship game and at
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl, right at the Cotton Bowl. And where's
Speaker 1: the media guy? I gotta refresh my memory on it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: But what I remember on it was again, would it
Speaker 1: have been blacked out locally? Probably? I remember listening to
Speaker 1: it on the radio sky I mean I watched it.
Speaker 1: It was probably, so it may have been blacked out locally.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that a playoff game, a championship game?
Speaker 1: You said you had a place like now, we had
Speaker 1: a my dad had a cowboy's antenna and so which
Speaker 1: sometimes worked and sometimes didn't know it was cowboy. I mean,
Speaker 1: what a Cowboys antenna was. It was a humongous antenna
Speaker 1: that people had on top of their house. Uh, and
Speaker 1: that had guide wires going to the fence. We had
Speaker 1: a twister come through one time and took our fence, okay,
Speaker 1: blew it over the house. Whatever. The Cowboy antenna got
Speaker 1: sent all over the city of Irving. I mean days
Speaker 1: weeks later, we would have we would have people returning
Speaker 1: parts of the Cowboy antenna to our house. Is this y'alls,
Speaker 1: you're the one with the Cowboy didn't have an antenna. No,
Speaker 1: we didn't have any day. So sometimes, uh, depending on
Speaker 1: the weather, I guess sometimes the it was kind of
Speaker 1: snowy watching you. Okay, So that game was played at
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl, but in my memory of it, it
Speaker 1: was snowing because I was watching to go to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys hit. It was likely after a while he got
Speaker 1: pretty frustrated and just went outside and played football and
Speaker 1: my friends. That was it. So that game too, was
Speaker 1: close to It was New Year's It was New Year's Eve,
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve nineteen Actually, I'm sorry, I I was
Speaker 1: looking at the Ice Ice Bowl was New Year's Eve
Speaker 1: because they played him in the sixty six game. Was
Speaker 1: New Year's Day, New Year's Day, and it was a
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty seven loss to the Packers. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's how close Landry came to beating Lombardi in that game,
Speaker 1: and then the next year in the Ice Bowl. And
Speaker 1: by the way, it was pointed out on Twitter that
Speaker 1: Landry did beat Lombardi when Lombardi went to Washington. I
Speaker 1: said with the Packers, Okay, but I know he beat him.
Speaker 1: He beat him twice. Okay, I wasn't I wasn't correcting you.
Speaker 1: I was just make sure I was just clarified. He
Speaker 1: was clarifying to you, but to Twitter correct that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of clarifications needed. So yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: far the rivalry goes back. Who was so it was
Speaker 1: Brown was coaching the Browns, right, Brown was coaching the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cowl Brown. Yeah, yes, yeah, because they how they
Speaker 1: got their name. But all the time I hated seeing
Speaker 1: the Browns come to town, except in nineteen sixty seven
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Championship Game when the Cowboys won fifty
Speaker 1: two to fourteen, and that got him in the Ice
Speaker 1: Bowl in nineteen sixty seven. Finally, but to your point,
Speaker 1: and that's where the Cowboys became known as next Year's
Speaker 1: champions because of their games against Cleveland in nineteen sixty eight. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Eastern Championship game at Cleveland thirty one twenty Cowboys lost,
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys played in the Playoff Bowl game
Speaker 1: in Miami against Minnesota and one. Okay, this is just
Speaker 1: for this is this is just a history lesson. Okay. Yes,
Speaker 1: in the NFL, once a team got knocked out of
Speaker 1: the playoffs at the end of the season, they actually
Speaker 1: played a bowl game and NFL game. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: the only way to make money back then, that sports whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about how meaningless a game could
Speaker 1: possibly belt. They played it in sixty five. Cowboys seven.
Speaker 1: Cowboys did not make the playoffs in sixty five and
Speaker 1: played in the Playoff Bowl game, which was just an
Speaker 1: exhibition game, lost to Baltimore. The numbers don't count. Now
Speaker 1: numbers now what it would be like the college get paid.
Speaker 1: It's like they got paid, right, Oh, I'm sure that
Speaker 1: if it Yeah, yeah, so anyway, it was it was
Speaker 1: considered a quote unquote a postseason game. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: didn't go on regular season stats, but still doesn't go
Speaker 1: into post game stats no season stats. No, yes, it
Speaker 1: didn't count. This just didn't count. Why is it in
Speaker 1: the media game? Why did it even happen when so?
Speaker 1: So anyway, it was like a preseason this is right
Speaker 1: for the next year, remember, yeah, well, there was no
Speaker 1: reason to watch it, nobody to remember, that's right, all right.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys lost to the Browns in sixty eight
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Championship Game, and then again in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty nine, and they went to the Playoff Bowl game
Speaker 1: and lost to the Rams again. So anyway, and then
Speaker 1: finally there was the breakthrough in nineteen seventy where the
Speaker 1: Cowboys made it to the Super Bowl and in controversial fashion,
Speaker 1: lost to Baltimore thanks to a ridiculous yeah, ridiculous fumble
Speaker 1: officials to bumble down on the goal line that Dave
Speaker 1: Manders recovered. All right, And in nineteen seventy one, Cowboys
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. So when Mackie caught the testdown pass,
Speaker 1: that's what I would call. So they were screwing the
Speaker 1: Cowboys even then. All right, what concerns you about these
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers? Um? Well, number one, they're the Packers,
Speaker 1: which hasn't bode dwell for the Cowboys over the years.
Speaker 1: And number two, where's my packard guide? Here? I had it.
Speaker 1: They do have Aaron Rodgers on their team, you know. Will.
Speaker 1: Will McClay showed something on our telestrators segment on the
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy show Rogers Play. He showed three different plays
Speaker 1: from Rodgers and how he still is doing all the
Speaker 1: same stuff he's done throughout his career and still has
Speaker 1: the athleticism and so forth. There was one pass he
Speaker 1: through though he stepped up in the pocket, avoided the
Speaker 1: rush and throw downfield and it looked like it should
Speaker 1: have gone to Alan Lazard and it went to Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb behind him, and there were defend There were four
Speaker 1: defenders that he threatened the needle through his own player Lazard,
Speaker 1: two other defenders too, Randall Cobb. I mean, the guy
Speaker 1: still has it, don't You don't have to worry about
Speaker 1: that because Cobs on ir. Yeah, but but no, you're right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's here's what I'm worried about. Check out these numbers
Speaker 1: one eleven, two oh three, one nine nine ninety four,
Speaker 1: two o eight and one oh six. That is six
Speaker 1: of nine games that they have rushed for at least
Speaker 1: ninety four years and three at least one ninety nine
Speaker 1: they have run the football well, they've got numbers that
Speaker 1: kind of belie their record. Um, you know, they lost
Speaker 1: the game to Detroit, right, they had three hundred and
Speaker 1: what was a three hundred eighty four yards the offense
Speaker 1: in that game, Um, three eighty nine. Then the week
Speaker 1: before against Buffalo they had three ninety eight. So they
Speaker 1: just haven't made plays and it kind of And the
Speaker 1: other thing that bothers me is the percentages. They've lost
Speaker 1: five straight. At some point they're gonna win with right, Right,
Speaker 1: you just hope it's not against you exactly right. The
Speaker 1: percentages are with them, Yeah, But what concerns me is
Speaker 1: not just the yards, but how they're getting them. And
Speaker 1: you talked about it in regards to the running game,
Speaker 1: and if there's a way to beat the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: is to run against them, to keep that defense on
Speaker 1: the field and keep our offense off the field. And
Speaker 1: if our offense plays along with that and comes out
Speaker 1: and goes three and out too many different times, then
Speaker 1: we're looking at the same old formula that's been failing
Speaker 1: us for the last three years, right, And that's us
Speaker 1: underachieving because we can't stop them from doing what they
Speaker 1: want to do. Yeah, and if you perform offensively, then
Speaker 1: that could take the ability to run the ball away
Speaker 1: from right and they got to play catch up. And
Speaker 1: that's what you want with this defense because of your
Speaker 1: ability to rush the quarterback. And you said earlier this week,
Speaker 1: I agree, you need to come out strong. Yeah, we offensively.
Speaker 1: We just can't. Let's you know, try to crank that
Speaker 1: call up. We can't. We can't go through that. You know,
Speaker 1: we can't have a cold engine. We got to come
Speaker 1: out there hot and ready to go. And I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the things that McCarthy got asked this question,
Speaker 1: But I don't think he understood where Brad Sham was going.
Speaker 1: He asked them about looking at statistics and how he
Speaker 1: looks at the statics the first part of the season
Speaker 1: too now, and I think where Brad was going was,
Speaker 1: you know, they had trouble on third down and there
Speaker 1: were various other things. But do you look at statistics
Speaker 1: as with Dak Prescott and without Dad Prescott, right, because
Speaker 1: a lot of those third down problems were the five
Speaker 1: games that he missed. So I don't know that you
Speaker 1: lump all these things and say, okay, this is a
Speaker 1: problem like scoring, right, And I understand he played in
Speaker 1: the first game and they only kicked a field goal
Speaker 1: against Tampa. But you know, these last six quarters that
Speaker 1: he's played, he's been pretty darn good, and we want
Speaker 1: I want to see if he can continue that, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's what we got to find. That's what
Speaker 1: we got to find. Cons But it's that wounded tiger. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that. I mean, you look at from this
Speaker 1: game from the Packers' perspective and where they are in
Speaker 1: their season at three and six right now, and where
Speaker 1: the Vikings are in their season. What are they six
Speaker 1: and one? Ye? See, all right, and they're okay, they
Speaker 1: go to Buffalo if they lose that game, and then
Speaker 1: they got Dallas. Minnesota's got Dallas, okay in Minnesota. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but let's say that Minnesota loss those two games.
Speaker 1: Now they're seven and three. Well, the Packers can get
Speaker 1: back in this thing if they can beat Dallas, if
Speaker 1: they can beat Tennessee, if they can be Philadelphia. Those
Speaker 1: are three tough opponents that got coming up. And so
Speaker 1: the way they're looking at it is this is the
Speaker 1: point of their season. Where they got to start doing something.
Speaker 1: And one thing I like about Rogers, if I'm a
Speaker 1: Packers fan, is the fact that he not just always
Speaker 1: seems to have it on the control, but he's the
Speaker 1: person that you want to put the ball in his
Speaker 1: hands if you're going to remedy the situation that you
Speaker 1: have right now. Yes, he's been the one that's been
Speaker 1: making the bad decisions, been through on some of the interceptions,
Speaker 1: but he's not a two time Player of the Year
Speaker 1: just by giving up or just consistently doing things in
Speaker 1: a bad way. Don't you know he's grinding Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he is watching film and trying to remember who said
Speaker 1: it was one of the defensive guy. It might have
Speaker 1: been DeMarcus Lawrence, saying that the scary thing about him
Speaker 1: is he wants he knows what he's doing, and he's
Speaker 1: trying to dictate everything. And if you remember one of
Speaker 1: the things when the Cowboys lost to them those couple
Speaker 1: of times, he caught him trying to change personnel on
Speaker 1: the fiah. You know, it's like you see somebody running
Speaker 1: off and he's going up there and they're hiking it. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a free five yards, and he's pretty darn good.
Speaker 1: And if if, if he keep the lineback his end,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be throwing the ball. Yeah, that reminds
Speaker 1: me earlier this remember earlier this season where I don't
Speaker 1: remember who they were playing, but Robo was doing the
Speaker 1: game and Rogers the other team was trying to get
Speaker 1: guys off the field whatever, and and you the crowd,
Speaker 1: Mike picked up the field. Mike picked up Rogers with
Speaker 1: a profanity, he said, telling the center to snap the ball.
Speaker 1: And so a Romo says to Dances, Jim, did you
Speaker 1: hear that? Aaron said, come on, guys, let's snap the ball.
Speaker 1: Come on, hurry up, let's go. And he's awfully good
Speaker 1: at it. So yeah, those guys know that they've got
Speaker 1: their hands full. You know, they're not they're not sitting
Speaker 1: here like everybody else. And you know they don't give
Speaker 1: you the four and a half points that Vegas does.
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, I'm with you, guys. This is this
Speaker 1: is a pretty darn good test. I don't care that
Speaker 1: they lost five straight, is your Yeah? Maybe it is, yeah,
Speaker 1: because three and six doesn't mean anything. You let him,
Speaker 1: let him, let's go, you know, And it's it's almost
Speaker 1: like you you don't want it to be bad weather
Speaker 1: because if it's bad weather, they might run the ball
Speaker 1: more than they would if it was a good weather.
Speaker 1: So it won't be precipitation, right, I saw there was
Speaker 1: a percentage it wasn't. No, it's just going to be
Speaker 1: maybe windy at the moment. Yeah yeah. Otherwise, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a pretty fair and cold and as Zach
Speaker 1: Martin said, thirty, that's not cold. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not real placed with mix mix shot there, let's
Speaker 1: try it, Mickey, you know, Mickey, Mickey. Landry did beat
Speaker 1: Lombardi a couple of times, but he was with Washington,
Speaker 1: that's right, only twice both times. Yeah, so let me
Speaker 1: telling me there you go, that's what we're looking out
Speaker 1: of whack. I say, hey, here's another one. When McCarthy
Speaker 1: talks about, you know, the girls and the family. It
Speaker 1: dawned on me yesterday that since Tom Landry, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have had only one other coach besides McCarthy that had
Speaker 1: children as when he was the head coach, it would
Speaker 1: have been Dave Campbell. I mean young children. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: had children, children that were like school age yeah, school
Speaker 1: age okay, school aged child. Yeah, because Jimmy's sons were
Speaker 1: in college. I believe Switzer. Switzer Switzer's son had a
Speaker 1: son in college, his daughter had just finished college. I
Speaker 1: do remember him going to a high school football game.
Speaker 1: I thought when he was coach here and he got
Speaker 1: criticized for it. I was I thought it was I
Speaker 1: thought it was college. Was he was a college college
Speaker 1: so that he played. I don't remember. Okay, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't living with him, I don't think at that time. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: and then Gaily Campo had a child later Parcels. They
Speaker 1: were grown by that and they were telling Parcels what
Speaker 1: to do. Um. Wade Wade grown daughter was grown. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Jason Jason have kids and so yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go. Kind of dawned on me because I was thinking,
Speaker 1: this is weird. We're talking about family, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, okay, other than your wife, you know,
Speaker 1: so Tom would have been. What you've got is a
Speaker 1: trend here of hiring coaches that are younger. No, I'm
Speaker 1: saying that Jerry has hired coaches that are older. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, though, Jason wasn't that more established. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we got our picks to click. Can you
Speaker 1: gonna win? It sounds to me like Mickey might have
Speaker 1: a surprise for us on who's gonna win this game
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Speaker 1: much for those lessons? She's doing great? Oh yeah, totally.
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Speaker 1: Over to do. We point out what producer Supreme just
Speaker 1: told us. Amazing stuff man, and we were talking earlier
Speaker 1: in the show about how many Cowboys players are still
Speaker 1: on the team who were on the team in twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen when the Cowboys last went to lambeau Field, And
Speaker 1: we were just doing a little glance at the Packers
Speaker 1: roster and Aaron Rodgers, Randall Cobb who is injured, David
Speaker 1: Backdiari the tackle, and Kenny Clark defensive tackle are four
Speaker 1: that are on their roster who are on the roster
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. And there's one ella other person who
Speaker 1: is field you gonna be on the field, who was
Speaker 1: on the field for the twenty sixteen Cowboys win over
Speaker 1: the Packers. You didn't have to bring me up the
Speaker 1: field before the game. That doesn't count. Okay. Referee Alan
Speaker 1: brad Allen. Okay, same referee as for the twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: So that is a great open for the Cowboys, right.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, as a player, you guys really overanalyze things. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well but it's cool. It's cool. Jim Mauer and Brown
Speaker 1: were on the field. More importantly Cowboys trainers. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: more importantly Wideli, who won't be on the field is
Speaker 1: the referee from the twenty fourteen playoff. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: was Gene Sterator. He's in the booths. Catch no catch man,
Speaker 1: get out of here. Answer, answer him anywhere around? Answer,
Speaker 1: we don't want him anywhere around. And Tony Currnty was
Speaker 1: the referee for the playoff game that same year in
Speaker 1: twenty six sixteen, Yes, six played Green Bay at at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium. That's those aren't fine memories there? Oh,
Speaker 1: there's another guy, Mason Crosby. That's a Mason Crosby, and
Speaker 1: he's the kicker for Green Bay who made the field
Speaker 1: goal in that game. And he has been uh going back,
Speaker 1: I have to look up when Crosby you know, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: I mean he was twenty two thousand and seven. Um,
Speaker 1: I have it written down here. Yeah, he was a
Speaker 1: sixth round pick in oh seven. How some McCarthy's second
Speaker 1: years good enough that he's still in the league and
Speaker 1: he's still ticking. In fact, McCarthy said, I was talking
Speaker 1: about it about the wind conditions and what's he hearing
Speaker 1: about what the wind will be like? And it sounds
Speaker 1: like it won't be that windy. Uh. And talking to
Speaker 1: McCarthy about how did he feel like he had a
Speaker 1: home field advantage at Lambeau. Uh, and he he was
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, they've added on to the stadium
Speaker 1: so much here in recent years that the wind has changed. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And in fact, he said he's here's that it may
Speaker 1: be the largest crowd ever for a game at Lambo
Speaker 1: Field and seas around eighty thousand now and uh. But
Speaker 1: he said that he may go up to Crosby before
Speaker 1: the game and you know, say hi, I was a
Speaker 1: family stuff and and and then also ask him how's
Speaker 1: the wind doing right? Handle that? Yeah, that's right. He's
Speaker 1: made nine of eleven this year. Yeah. So that that year,
Speaker 1: that game was at fifty eight or like fifty three.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the it was beyond fifty I
Speaker 1: know that. But it was like as soon as they
Speaker 1: completed the pass to Jered Cook and he just had
Speaker 1: a feeling he's going to make it because that's just
Speaker 1: how it was going on that job. That's right. And
Speaker 1: the ball started out the side, right right back. I
Speaker 1: was a beautiful kick. It just it told me. I
Speaker 1: thought it was an ugly kick. Yeah, but you know
Speaker 1: it was just being a ball getting kicked. That was
Speaker 1: so dramatic, you know, I was fifty one yards and
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey Okay, Dan Bay, no, I'm sorry, Okay, I
Speaker 1: take it back. We might get at here. It was
Speaker 1: about okay the regulation, No, I'm sorry. With one thirty
Speaker 1: three left in the game, Crosby made the fifty six
Speaker 1: yarder to put the Packers up thirty one twenty eight Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but came back down With thirty five seconds left, Dan
Speaker 1: Bailey made a fifty two yarder to tie the game
Speaker 1: at thirty one, and then that's when Roder we thought
Speaker 1: we were going to overtime here and Rogers made the completion,
Speaker 1: got out of the pocket down the sideline right from
Speaker 1: Cowboys games and then as the h on the final
Speaker 1: play of the game, crossby from fifty one. And see,
Speaker 1: that's what made me so mad about that game. It's
Speaker 1: not in the surprise that Rodgers did what he did.
Speaker 1: I mean, the exact same move they to get against
Speaker 1: Detroit if I'm not mistaken, and I think it was
Speaker 1: the Cardinals that same spin around. The spin around, so
Speaker 1: you know, okay, here it is, guys, all right, uh coach, hey, players,
Speaker 1: let's get around here. Don't let Rogers get out of
Speaker 1: the pocket. He's had two hell marries this year already,
Speaker 1: he was and sure enough, that's what we did. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't have got out of the pocket if they didn't
Speaker 1: hold That's what you I remember you talking about who
Speaker 1: they hold from behind? Was it was it Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: It was it they grabbed him from behind. It had
Speaker 1: bear hugged him, otherwise he wouldn't have got there. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize when I saw the play again this week
Speaker 1: that not only did he get out to the to
Speaker 1: the his left to the sideline, he actually ran up.
Speaker 1: I mean he was almost to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: when he threw the ball. He had to be, because
Speaker 1: that was that was a past that needed to be
Speaker 1: drilled and then cook with his his feet were like inches,
Speaker 1: so cool from being he's one of them. He's one
Speaker 1: of the better tight ends you ever want to see
Speaker 1: around from being out of bound? Where is he now?
Speaker 1: Is he still? I think he is somewhere because I
Speaker 1: mean he's always landing. He was with the He's with
Speaker 1: the Raiders at one point. I know that's not a
Speaker 1: good thing. He came back to play boys. Where was
Speaker 1: he last year? He was with the Chargers last year,
Speaker 1: I thought, because they they had problems with him in
Speaker 1: that game, right las injuries. He's having injury problems too.
Speaker 1: And two years prior of that with the Saints, and
Speaker 1: then he was with the Raiders in seventeen and eighteen.
Speaker 1: He was just with the Packers for that one season
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. All it had to be was the
Speaker 1: one game. Well he got paid after that. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: he got Hey, everybody knew who he was, right, that's right.
Speaker 1: And one other player, Dean Lowry, was on the current
Speaker 1: roster for the Packers. He was on the roster in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. All right, extra click, I am looking at
Speaker 1: one of our first of all parsons is back on. Okay,
Speaker 1: we can pick parts. I'm going first, fresh start here,
Speaker 1: all right. Even with that, Parsons will be double teams
Speaker 1: a lot, and you know who always feasts when Parsons
Speaker 1: gets double team. I'm looking at Doris Armstrong will have
Speaker 1: at least two sacks this game. Packers gonna lose. Thirty
Speaker 1: one thirteen. Cowboys are gonna come out of the bag,
Speaker 1: I think, and I'm hoping that they come out of
Speaker 1: the bag and score at will while at least holding
Speaker 1: off the Packers and thirty one thirteen Armstrong with two
Speaker 1: sacks plus. I ain't playing Michael Parsons Parsons because I
Speaker 1: think he will end up at some point if they're
Speaker 1: running the ball, he's gonna be a linebacker, maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit more on first and second down, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna stop that running game. And I've got the Cowboys
Speaker 1: twenty seven seven seven seventeen. I've got to guarantee for
Speaker 1: you I'm winning this week. Okay, Okay, which one I'm
Speaker 1: I'm winning both. You're gonna guarantee both. You can put
Speaker 1: it in three This is after talking to Jimmy. This
Speaker 1: way you can put it in three inch head lives.
Speaker 1: We will win the game, and it will be Trayvon
Speaker 1: dig Digs, who is the star of this game. And
Speaker 1: you know one of the reasons why is because he's
Speaker 1: coached by a guy who's in the Packers Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: Al Harris. How you go, Al Harris, who is a
Speaker 1: two time pro bowler with the Green Bay Packers, is
Speaker 1: going back to lambeau Field. Yeah, he's gonna coach up
Speaker 1: his guys. He along with ten other guys on but
Speaker 1: not ten other guys aren't in the Packers Hall of Fame. Mickey,
Speaker 1: can we go? Can I do a mix shot myself? Yes, Mickey,
Speaker 1: there's a one in the Packers Hall of Fame. It's
Speaker 1: Al Harris. So how will you looking for a certain
Speaker 1: amount of picks? So you just look at him just
Speaker 1: bawling out. He's gonna have a pick. Okay, he will
Speaker 1: have a pick of aaron Ers. Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 1: Let's make it a pick six. Oh, we make it
Speaker 1: a pick six. And here's your final score. As we
Speaker 1: harken back fifty five years ago to the Ice Bowl
Speaker 1: twenty one seventeen with revenge on the Packers. That was
Speaker 1: the score of the Ice Bowl twenty one seventeen. This time,
Speaker 1: the tables are turned thanks to Tree and Packers Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer Al Harris Packers. He is a pack of Famer, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: is the pressure on him to win this game too? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't even think about him. We always
Speaker 1: talking about McCarthy, but going back home as well. Well.
Speaker 1: Joe Philbin Offensive, Jeff Blastco, Rob Davis, Oh yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: but none of them are in the Packers Joe with no,
Speaker 1: Joe with Jun and one has a street and you
Speaker 1: got the Hall of Famer habits that try yep, so
Speaker 1: that I think, you know, I didn't realize they have
Speaker 1: all of these ex Packers on the on the staff.
Speaker 1: That ball is very well for us. I really think it.
Speaker 1: It's home coming, Mike said. Mike said, there was ten
Speaker 1: others that's right, I'm talking about and there's probably a
Speaker 1: couple of we're going back in like yeah, we bat anyway,
Speaker 1: So there you go. We've got our picks, all right,
Speaker 1: three twenty five Sunday afternoon. We're back here at noon
Speaker 1: on Monday to discuss it all on a victory Monday,
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