WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Anika Noni Rose

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<v Speaker 1>Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Sugar Steve from Questlove Supreme. This March, we're

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<v Speaker 3>celebrating women's history at QLs, something that we've done for years.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in March of twenty twenty one, we spoke to

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<v Speaker 3>Anika Noni Rose about her acting, singing and voice work.

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<v Speaker 3>She discussed growing up in Connecticut, working on Dream Girls,

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<v Speaker 3>and landing a life changing audition for Disney's The Princess

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<v Speaker 3>and the Frog. This is a powerful and sincere conversation

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<v Speaker 3>that is worthy of hearing, and I hope you enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know you say it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Ceo in the corn?

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<v Speaker 4>What was it? That's funny. I thought I was visible

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<v Speaker 4>for about six minutes and I was like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just a blank square.

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<v Speaker 5>So we're just talking about the salt and pepper Lifetime,

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<v Speaker 5>The salt Lifetime.

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<v Speaker 6>Deep Salt Pepper, Deep Salt Pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you watch it yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Proc Come on, brother, I was on time for that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Man's thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty seconds?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, the salt and pepper story, it was, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it was cool for Lifetime. I thought they cast salt,

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<v Speaker 7>real good pepper. I wasn't really too convinced on Pepper.

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<v Speaker 7>I really was not convinced with Tretch. I really liked

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<v Speaker 7>the way they cast Herbie love Bug and the twin

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<v Speaker 7>although it hasn't really been documented that Herbie love Bug

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<v Speaker 7>has a twin brother does have a he has a brother.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know if it's his twin brother, but Herbie,

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<v Speaker 7>Herbie does have a brother. It looked like it was

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<v Speaker 7>the lookalike was in his uh it was in the

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<v Speaker 7>he was in the shoot video. I want to say

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<v Speaker 7>his brother is was in the shoot video. I can't

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<v Speaker 7>remember which scene, but anyway, Yeah, I mean it was

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<v Speaker 7>a little too long. I felt like it probably could

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<v Speaker 7>have been like two hours. I mean, you know, if

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<v Speaker 7>it was Jackson, it was hours long.

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<v Speaker 1>It was three hours.

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<v Speaker 7>And mind you, let's contrast that with the Jackson's story

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<v Speaker 7>being four hours.

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<v Speaker 8>So that was multiple movie nights.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, the jack Nat was five yes, yes, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So did you learn anything about salt and pepper at all?

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<v Speaker 6>Not that you didn't know, but just anything.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know that, uh, pepper was not pepper. Salt

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<v Speaker 7>had to eating disorder. They kind of they kind of

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<v Speaker 7>hinted it that, you know what I'm saying that was

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<v Speaker 7>the new information. But yeah, that was it, and you

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<v Speaker 7>know it was I watched that ship on a Sunday

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<v Speaker 7>afternoon of my couched Nigga.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey man, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, this is Quest Love Supreme and uh I'm

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<v Speaker 5>yours quest though. That was that was our cold open

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<v Speaker 5>take a little hot take on the Salt and Pepper

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<v Speaker 5>Lifetime movie.

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<v Speaker 8>Am as this episode airs in women's history mo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah. Anyway, so we have a sugar Steve

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<v Speaker 1>with us.

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<v Speaker 5>I have, we have unpaid bill and we have Laya

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<v Speaker 5>with us as well. Our Esteem guest today. Great, thanks

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<v Speaker 5>for asking, but oh okay, how you doing Steve?

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<v Speaker 1>Great?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, nice weather. I like I like this sweater.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a champion hoodie. It's not a sweater.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Well they can't see you on the on on.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's a very expensive sweater, Steve. Can I

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<v Speaker 5>please introduce the guest anyway? Our steam guest today is

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<v Speaker 5>an amazing, versatile, award winning actress who stage credits range

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<v Speaker 5>from Carl Jones to Raising his Sun to Eli's Coming

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<v Speaker 5>Carolina Change, which she won a Tony Award, and her

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<v Speaker 5>TV credits, so many Ladies Number one Detective Agency. She

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<v Speaker 5>played Wendy Carr, one of my favorite TV shows. I

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<v Speaker 5>missed The Good Wife so much, Like that's one of

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite shows ever, and I wish we're still here,

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<v Speaker 5>even though you know, the the not the reboot, but

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<v Speaker 5>a good fight is sort of okay, you know, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>we also can't forget her role as a jukebox character

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<v Speaker 5>on everyone's favorite guilty Pleasure Power, not to mention Little

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<v Speaker 5>Fires Everywhere. She also did The Quad and had a

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<v Speaker 5>cool bucket list check as a voice on The Simpsons. Uh,

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<v Speaker 5>not to mention her movie credits are just his own point.

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<v Speaker 5>This past Christmas, she started in Netflix's amazing jingle Jangle

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<v Speaker 5>The Christmas Journey, which hopefully will last for years and

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<v Speaker 5>decades and decades and decades.

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<v Speaker 8>Christmas story.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely, my all, my niece's nephews enjoyed it. Not

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<v Speaker 5>to mention, there's dream Girls for colored girls only, and

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<v Speaker 5>also yes, she starred as Princess Tiana as the first

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<v Speaker 5>Black Princess and the historical Princess and the Frog for Disney. Incidentally,

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<v Speaker 5>she is the youngest inductee dever be honored as a

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<v Speaker 5>Disney legend. I want to know what a Disney legend

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<v Speaker 5>is and do I qualify for my four seconds? Now

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<v Speaker 5>I'm playing Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to our show.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my fellow academy a member. It's it's like a

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<v Speaker 5>secret society that only people know. Anyway, Welcome to Coest

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<v Speaker 5>Love Supreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Anika Noni Rose, thank you, thank you for coming.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to ask, how how have you made out

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<v Speaker 5>in the past year. You know this, this this year

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<v Speaker 5>has been difficult on a lot of people, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>been an adjustment for artists in all mediums like and

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<v Speaker 5>for singers, for you know, actors, and for pretty much

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<v Speaker 5>anyone in the arts is it's been an adjustment. So

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<v Speaker 5>how have you been adjusting to the past year or so?

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<v Speaker 4>I the past year was rough. It was it was

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<v Speaker 4>a rough year, you know, and then you sort of

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<v Speaker 4>feel funny even saying that, because it's been rough for everybody,

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<v Speaker 4>like heavy for everybody in lieu of work. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>really lucky because I'm a voiceover artist. So even when

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<v Speaker 4>I can't do something where you see me on a set,

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<v Speaker 4>I can still do voiceover work. So that's a blessing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, to be able to do that. And I've

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<v Speaker 4>started doing some film work as well, which was weird

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<v Speaker 4>and still feels weird to be on a set because

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<v Speaker 4>I still sort of feel like, don't be that close

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<v Speaker 4>to me. So professionally, I would have to say that

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<v Speaker 4>I've been I've been pretty lucky in that respect, you know. Personally,

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<v Speaker 4>it's taken some adjusting too. It's been wild. It's been

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<v Speaker 4>a frightening year. It's been a year full of really

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<v Speaker 4>intense anger. If there is an emotion on the emotional scale,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that we've been saved from it this year.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we've done that whole circle. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm grateful to be healthy, especially as an asthmatic. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>very grateful to be healthy. I'm grateful that my family

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't touched as often as some people have been by

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<v Speaker 4>COVID and that type of loss. But I've lost friends

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<v Speaker 4>and I've lost family, and it's been a really shit year.

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<v Speaker 4>To be perfectly honest.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we welcome that honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm grateful for the possibility of change and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see, you know, how just how much people are

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<v Speaker 4>able to do but you know, January twentieth, when everybody

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<v Speaker 4>finally got inside and the doors were locked and the

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<v Speaker 4>cameras were gone, I felt like I could breathe a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit. I just wanted everybody to go inside. I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, this is great, can you now go inside? Everyone?

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I want Mama.

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<v Speaker 4>Inside, I want to step children inside. I want everybody inside.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was really I felt like it felt like

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the move of a movie, like

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<v Speaker 4>a movie shoot when I've been wearing a corset and

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<v Speaker 4>I have to take that course and get to take

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<v Speaker 4>that courset off for the last day. It felt like

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<v Speaker 4>I have been wearing a corset for four years and

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<v Speaker 4>I finally got to take that thing off and get

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<v Speaker 4>a deep breath in. I felt like I could just

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<v Speaker 4>breathe a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>That is a very great metaphor. We've all been wearing

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<v Speaker 7>spanks for the last four years.

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<v Speaker 8>West trainers.

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<v Speaker 1>Waist trains and on Bill and the face like, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, do we have to translate this for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Like no, no, no, I'm hyptop type clothing.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I admire you for, you know, the transparency

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<v Speaker 5>and the honest honesty about it because you know this

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<v Speaker 5>has been a hard adjustment this past year, and for

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of us, this forced us to deal with

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<v Speaker 5>ourselves and to deal with the people in our lives,

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<v Speaker 5>like to really get to know them. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 5>you're quarantining alone or with the partner, your children or

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<v Speaker 5>your family members and that sort of thing. So this

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<v Speaker 5>was an adjustment for you know, a lot of us,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, a lot of us didn't didn't make it,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, through the past year wiser or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I know a lot of people that are in this

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<v Speaker 5>field that have given into to panic and fear and

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<v Speaker 5>that sort of thing, and sort of what three divorces

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<v Speaker 5>going on right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Like three's going through divorces?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, wow, yeah, you know, I hope for you that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, it was at least a lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the voiceover work, was it more of a

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<v Speaker 2>pivot for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Or was it what you were always doing or was

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<v Speaker 5>it something new that you weren't exactly prepared to make,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, something as serious as far as your career

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<v Speaker 5>is concerned.

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<v Speaker 4>It's something that I've always been doing and that I

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<v Speaker 4>really enjoy doing, and then it became something that I

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<v Speaker 4>was also really really grateful to be able to do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, outside of just saying, oh yeah, I get

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<v Speaker 4>to do voiceover. I'm a voiceover artist. That's fun and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad to do that. It became something to be

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<v Speaker 4>really grateful for during this past year.

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<v Speaker 5>Can I has what experience does that intail? I took

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<v Speaker 5>one hand. I did one time of trying to do

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<v Speaker 5>voiceover work, and you know, I kind of I'll say

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<v Speaker 5>I was unprepared. It was like an American Express card

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<v Speaker 5>and I realized that like the inflections that you have

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<v Speaker 5>to have and you know, read things sustinctly, so I

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<v Speaker 5>well like what.

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<v Speaker 8>I do a little bit too. I would.

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<v Speaker 7>Not like what what does good voice over work entail?

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<v Speaker 1>As far as having to.

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<v Speaker 5>I assume that if you get called back, that means

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<v Speaker 5>you're good enough to to work again.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's different. It's different for depending on

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<v Speaker 4>what type of voiceover you're doing. Like if you're doing

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<v Speaker 4>a commercial and they call you to be your voice

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<v Speaker 4>because your voice is because you know you are questlove.

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<v Speaker 4>They just want to hear your voice. So there's some

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<v Speaker 4>things that you don't have to worry about. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to create a character, but you still have to

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<v Speaker 4>read whatever it is that they've given you in a

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<v Speaker 4>way that gets the whatever emotional tone that they want,

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<v Speaker 4>how does it push their product the best way. So

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<v Speaker 4>in that respect, you know you have to be ready

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<v Speaker 4>for that. If you're doing a character, they're looking for

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<v Speaker 4>actors most of the time, unless, of course, you're being

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<v Speaker 4>called in to be yourself. They're still looking for you

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<v Speaker 4>to be an actor, but you still get to be yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>which takes a little bit of that onus off of you.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would say if they're looking for a character,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're talking about a cartoon or an animated feature,

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<v Speaker 4>or even a voice over for a feature film, there's

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<v Speaker 4>acting involved because you need to know how to put

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<v Speaker 4>forth the emotion the information that they need to have.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that what trips people up is that

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<v Speaker 4>they think, oh, oh, well, let's just I'm just going

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<v Speaker 4>there and talk. It's gonna be fine. And it's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more than that. And it's also tiresome because if

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<v Speaker 4>you are doing a whole feature or something like that,

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<v Speaker 4>they may want you to lay that whole thing down

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<v Speaker 4>in one day and by the time you're done, you're like, thanks,

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<v Speaker 4>that was.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really nice.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's also very competitive too, because unlike in some ways,

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<v Speaker 7>even more so than acting, because we're acting.

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<v Speaker 1>You can kind of age out of a role, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak.

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<v Speaker 7>But in voice acting, I mean, hell, Nancy Cartwright been

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<v Speaker 7>playing Bart Simpson for thirty years, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So once you get in those roles, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stay there, and.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're there, you can stay there. But it is

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<v Speaker 4>extraordinarily competitive. It is becoming more different by the day

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<v Speaker 4>and more competitive by the day because it's becoming more

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<v Speaker 4>compartmentalized by the day as well. So it's very interesting

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<v Speaker 4>watching the shift. But to be able to be on

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<v Speaker 4>The Simpsons was so much fun and I got to

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<v Speaker 4>be so silly, and anytime I get to be silly,

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<v Speaker 4>I am very happy. And you know, Princess Gianna was

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<v Speaker 4>a huge, huge honor. But I love doing voiceover for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I love being able to create a character. I love

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<v Speaker 4>when somebody listens to something and they don't realize it's me,

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<v Speaker 4>or they figure it out real late that that gives

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<v Speaker 4>me a kick, Like I feel real honored when that happens,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's exciting to me.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's the difference. That's what Creed Summer taught us. Y'all.

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<v Speaker 8>Remember like that is why Anika is in the cree

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<v Speaker 8>tribe of things where you can't tell them where you

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<v Speaker 8>can do all kinds of different characters and whatnot. But

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<v Speaker 8>then there's just the voice over a voice over artists,

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<v Speaker 8>which is sometimes, like you said, just direct what you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking about a commercial where they're like, hey, we want

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<v Speaker 4>to know who this person is because they want to

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<v Speaker 4>sell their project product on that person's voice. And look,

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<v Speaker 4>trust if Nike or Apple or any of those people

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<v Speaker 4>want to be like Ana, it would be great to

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be there before they finish the sentence. I'll be

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<v Speaker 4>right there, right there, direct deposit form in hand.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I wish I knew that ahead of time, because

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<v Speaker 5>I think I came there prepared to do like my

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<v Speaker 5>dom Pardo uh impression. Then when I when I asked

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<v Speaker 5>my manager, like, so what they think, They're like.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to roll with da da da da, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, where I mess up?

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<v Speaker 5>And they were like they just wanted you to sound

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<v Speaker 5>like you were mere. And I was like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 5>know I was talking like this the whole time and no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 5>So now now now I know that, Okay, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 5>there would.

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<v Speaker 4>Be another chance for you because your quest love and

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<v Speaker 4>they see you on TV all the time and you

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<v Speaker 4>are distinctive and now.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, well common can sell a I I think

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<v Speaker 7>you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Say okay, okay, okay, all.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, because because you have uh kind of both feet

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<v Speaker 5>in all of these uh areas of acting?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it one? Is it?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it highly unusual to not just concentrate on one

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<v Speaker 5>particular medium like strictly television or the Broadway stage or

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<v Speaker 5>movies like are you just one of those supernatural people

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<v Speaker 5>that will just take whatever comes your way?

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<v Speaker 2>Or you know?

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<v Speaker 5>Or is it highly unusual for a person in the

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<v Speaker 5>acting feeld to sort of stretch out to all three

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<v Speaker 5>different arenas. I'm sure there's more than three, but I

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<v Speaker 5>know TV, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that when you can do that, you're

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<v Speaker 4>lucky to be able to do that. So I think that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and let me not say that it's just luck,

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<v Speaker 4>because somebody is going to be like, oh, excuse me, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a lot of training involved, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of work involved to be the actor or performer

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<v Speaker 4>that I am, And I've been lucky for the time

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<v Speaker 4>that I've been here that I was here at the

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<v Speaker 4>perfect time to be able to be in the running

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<v Speaker 4>to be Princess Tiana, because five years beforehand or two

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<v Speaker 4>years beforehand, two years afterwards, could it wouldn't have been me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. But also there is an adjustment of your

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<v Speaker 4>craft depending on what you're doing. You're not doing the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing on stage necessarily that you're going to be

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<v Speaker 4>doing on film that you're going to be doing on television.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's not something that I can be clear about,

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<v Speaker 4>but there are tiny adjustments. And there are some people

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<v Speaker 4>for whom they're amazing on film and they get on

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<v Speaker 4>stage and you're like what. And there are some people

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<v Speaker 4>who are on stage and you're like, I've never seen

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<v Speaker 4>anything like it, and they get on film you're like oh,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, so there are there's a translation that happens.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you are somebody who is able to translate

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<v Speaker 4>to different mediums, well, it is again a blessing. It's

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<v Speaker 4>the work that you've done, but it's also you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're lucky to be able to do that, because there

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<v Speaker 4>are people for whom they are magnificent actors in either realm,

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<v Speaker 4>but they get on screen and your face looks funny

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<v Speaker 4>and you don't know why your face looks funny because

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<v Speaker 4>your face looks great in person, but the screen will

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<v Speaker 4>change your face, Like you get up there and you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>wait a minute, why does my eye look so high

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<v Speaker 4>on that side? Those things happen on screen, So the

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<v Speaker 4>reasons that people don't make it on screen aren't always

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<v Speaker 4>about their talent per se. There's always something that can

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<v Speaker 4>make it not work for you. So I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to do all three things. And it was

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<v Speaker 4>a plan for me to be able to do all

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<v Speaker 4>three things because I like to do all three things,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm somebody who I get tired of doing the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing over and over, Like it's important to me

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to stretch out and try something different

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<v Speaker 4>and be in a different space because I get ant

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<v Speaker 4>see and I want to be able to challenge myself.

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<v Speaker 4>And basically, anytime you see me doing something different, it's

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<v Speaker 4>because I was like, yeah, I want to try that.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me see if I can do that well, and

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<v Speaker 4>I jump in.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one edges out more like what do you prefer?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you prefer the stage? TV?

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<v Speaker 2>Or movies?

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<v Speaker 4>I what was the last.

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<v Speaker 8>Or or movie or movie?

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<v Speaker 1>But then again there's also voiceover, so I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, for I love stage, and you know why,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that feeling being on stage, live in front

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<v Speaker 4>of people, and the challenge that it is to yourself

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<v Speaker 4>every time you're on a stage, how much better it

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<v Speaker 4>makes you having to do that, wanting to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love stage and I love film, and that's a

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<v Speaker 4>different type of challenge, and it's also finite, which is

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<v Speaker 4>sort of level. But on stage you have more control

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<v Speaker 4>over what you're doing, over the performance that you're giving.

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<v Speaker 4>And I really feel like stage is the place where

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<v Speaker 4>I sharpen my pencil, where I hone my skill, so

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<v Speaker 4>that when I step out to do something else, I

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<v Speaker 4>know that I have grown a new limb from the

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<v Speaker 4>time that I spent live on stage.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, I was gonna ask, have you ever given any

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<v Speaker 7>consideration that thought about like singing, like making the Niko

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<v Speaker 7>Noni Rolls album?

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<v Speaker 1>Like is that a is that a dream of fashion

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<v Speaker 1>of yours?

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<v Speaker 4>I love to sing.

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<v Speaker 9>I have.

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<v Speaker 4>An album that I've been wanting to do for several

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<v Speaker 4>years and I just don't quite know how to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I have a different musical project that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>actually in the works of planning now. So yes, I

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<v Speaker 4>love singing. And I don't know. And I think probably

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<v Speaker 4>even when I started, when I started as a performer,

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to be I wanted to be like a

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<v Speaker 4>Grammy winner. I said, by the time I was twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to grabby That's what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I didn't know that I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 4>an actor, and that feeling came later. And then I've

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<v Speaker 4>just been really really focused on this part of my

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<v Speaker 4>career and I think that it is it is a

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<v Speaker 4>loss to me inside of me to not sing as

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<v Speaker 4>much as I used to, even and definitely that is

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<v Speaker 4>in my plans. I just have to some things I

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<v Speaker 4>need to figure out. That's a help I need.

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<v Speaker 8>I need some help which a genre of passion.

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I just love to say.

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<v Speaker 4>So I need to focus, you know. And I have

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<v Speaker 4>a focus on something I did. I did a concert

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<v Speaker 4>series a few, oh god, several years ago now very

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<v Speaker 4>bad at time, and it was a tribute to my grandmother.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would like to turn that into an album.

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<v Speaker 4>And I always wanted to do some sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>poppy thing, some sort of pop R and B. I

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<v Speaker 4>love rock. I would love to put out a rock song,

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<v Speaker 4>so like I'm not, I don't feel like, oh well,

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<v Speaker 4>I would only do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 8>Because you have a song out now right that's really

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<v Speaker 8>popular from the Jingle Jangle down here, Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>And John Legend wrote this song. It's called Make It Work,

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<v Speaker 4>and it is such a brilliant piece of writing. And

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<v Speaker 4>he is so interesting because his soul, I think, is

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and two years old and right he puts

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<v Speaker 4>all of that into his music. So what Make It

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<v Speaker 4>Work gave me was R and B and got bull

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<v Speaker 4>and a henta pop and a tap of rock all

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<v Speaker 4>up in one thing. And it gave me intense musical

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<v Speaker 4>joy to be able to sing it. I love it

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<v Speaker 4>so deeply. And it was so smart with regard to

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<v Speaker 4>the movie because it was talking about many different things.

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<v Speaker 4>It was talking about making the relationship work between me

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<v Speaker 4>and my dad, but it was also talking about him

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<v Speaker 4>making his creation work and making his life work again.

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<v Speaker 4>And what John managed to do in the music is

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<v Speaker 4>he has a work song in there, like an actual

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:46.520
<v Speaker 4>work song from Time in the Fields. You can feel

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<v Speaker 4>it in the bass and the movement of that song,

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<v Speaker 4>and it talks to you in a way that I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, if people realize they're being spoken to, it

0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:01.120
<v Speaker 4>comes from the inside. And you know, music moves you

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<v Speaker 4>in wavelengths because your body moves on wavelengths. So when

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 4>people are like, oh, I hate a musical, but then

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<v Speaker 4>they go to a musical and they're like, god, I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of even amazing. They've got caught because of what

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<v Speaker 4>the music has done to your body and the wavelengths

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<v Speaker 4>that your body moves on. And when music is really good,

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 4>it seeps into your body that way. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>that that's part of what he created with that song

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<v Speaker 4>having written it, and it was my great joy to

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 4>be able to come in and partner with him and

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<v Speaker 4>take it to the next place of that vocally. It

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<v Speaker 4>was an amazing experience for me and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to know what before you said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the stage is what caused you more of all the

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<v Speaker 5>avenues that you can do your craft. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>know that, even it's weird that that's your choice, even

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<v Speaker 5>though like a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Think a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 5>Stage actors get not dismissed, but I mean there's really

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<v Speaker 5>no glamour or glory in it so much, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like the baccolades that a movie actor or a television

0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 5>actor would get this hardly, you know, extended to the

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 5>Broadway world, and at that there's so much pressure because

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<v Speaker 5>you kind of have to deliver out the park every night,

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<v Speaker 5>Like there's no such thing as a bad night or

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<v Speaker 5>one false newe you know, especially with musicals, Like how

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<v Speaker 5>hard is it to preserve your like and basically to

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<v Speaker 5>hit it out the park every night when you're on stage,

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<v Speaker 5>Like how much pressure is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Musicals are particularly exhausting, but it's also life giving, Like

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 4>you leave the stage, you finish your show. For me,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 4>it takes hours for me to become tired. I am

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<v Speaker 4>so high when I leave the stage, you know, like

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 4>my energy is moving. And I get home, I make

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 4>something to eat, and I talk on the phone or

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 4>read something. I'm up for hours. It takes me hours

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<v Speaker 4>to fall asleep because of the energy coursing through my body.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's exhausting, and it takes an extraordinary amount of discipline,

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<v Speaker 4>which I don't I don't know that people who haven't

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<v Speaker 4>done it realize that, which is why it sometimes conquers

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 4>people who haven't done it and are like, yeah, let's

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 4>do that, and then they're like, oh my god, it's

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 4>show number four. I'm about to die because it's a

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 4>murderer like that if you don't know how to pace

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.199
<v Speaker 4>yourself for it. So depending on what you're doing, Like

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 4>for me, if I'm doing a musical, I want nine

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 4>hours of sleep period. I don't want to talk to

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 4>people about it.

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't don't call me in no.

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<v Speaker 4>Single digit am. No, I'm not trying to get up

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 4>to do nothing with you. No, we're not going one

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 4>out at night because I have to make sure that

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 4>somebody one hundred and fifty dollars or however much they

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 4>spent is worthwhile when they come to that stage. And

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 4>it's that's my job. And I take too much pride

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.639
<v Speaker 4>in what I do to ruin it by being out

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.239
<v Speaker 4>at a bar or out doing whatever. And look, some

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 4>people can do that. I can't. I'm speaking about it.

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>The show is done, and no, I may go.

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Out to get something to eat, but what you will

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 4>not see me do is talk.

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Done.

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 4>I'll be at a restaurant eating, But if I'm talking

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 4>to somebody, I'm talking in their ear, like I'm in

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:46.280
<v Speaker 4>their ear right here, real quiet, because you're going to

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna lose my voice trying to speak over the

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 4>din of a restaurant. You stress your voice so badly

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 4>that the next day your voice is tired, not from

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 4>the show you did, from the talking you did after.

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 4>So I am really I go home most of the time,

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 4>and I drink an extraordinary amount of water. I probably

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 4>drink about two leaders of water a day, no less,

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 4>to make sure everything is moving. I eat it super

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 4>properly and well, because I can't afford to be sick

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 4>at all.

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 8>You're vegan, no dairy.

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 4>I am not vegan. I would like to be that person,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 4>but that's where my discipline doesn't quite get that far.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 4>I need a piece of meat, you know, and not

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 4>every day, but I need some meat or I'm cranky

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 4>and tired. But I do you know, I cut back

0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 4>on I don't eat a whole lot of fried stuff.

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't eat a whole lot of spicy stuff. I

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 4>don't eat a whole lot of heavy, heavy stuff. Why

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 4>because those are the things that get on your body

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.240
<v Speaker 4>and say, ooh you've had fun, you ate really well,

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 4>how about some reflux for tomorrow. So those are all

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 4>things that I'm thinking about when I'm performing and somebody

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 4>is going to be like, Oh, you don't have to

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 4>do all that. I never had to do all it.

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 4>I do this, I do that. That's great for them,

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 4>and I wish I was that person. But for me,

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 4>it involves a whole lot of discipline, and I'm not

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 4>bitter about it because it's the thing that I love

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 4>to do, so it always feels worth it.

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 5>That's weird to hear because the time that I was

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 5>involved with the cast of Faila, they would go super hard,

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 5>like every.

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Night, like that's like a thing and a star thing.

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 6>I think like you get to a certain age, you

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 6>can't party that hard when you're like, you know, a

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 6>lot of the ensemble kids don't feel like they need

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 6>to save the voice as much as the word stopped

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 6>you right there.

0:29:51.640 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 4>Bill Present said something that I'm a now I can

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 4>understand why you wouldn't have to you about to be muted.

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Canceled.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 4>I have never This has always been the way that

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 4>I approached my job. It's my job and I and

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, FELA was an amazing show with amazing artists

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 4>in it. Also a dance heavy show. I don't think

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 4>it was as vocally heavy as it was dance heavy,

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 4>and it's a different type of singing because it's also

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 4>choral singing. So everybody singing except for uh, what was

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 4>his name, Sasha Sar who was Chef's Kiss magnificent. So

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 4>it's choral singing, so you have a whole lot of

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 4>voices that can fill that thing out. And if and

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 4>again let me make this clear, no shade whatsoever. But

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 4>if one choral person is singing at level six or

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 4>seven on a Tuesday night, the audience isn't going to

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 4>know that one choral person is singing at six or

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 4>seven unless that person has a solo. So when you're

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 4>in a show that you can do choral work, I

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 4>think you have a little more space you can lean

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 4>on that day and what you said the person that

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 4>is next to you in a different way. But if

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 4>Sar would go out drinking every single night, Sar, I'm

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 4>gonna have a different show the next day, you know

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 4>what I mean? And he was, oh god, they were

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 4>magnificent in that show.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 5>Wait, speaking of Bill good, well, now he's canceled build

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 5>instead of Yeah, wait a minute, because Ninka, I was

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 5>looking on your your credits and I saw Hamilton there,

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 5>explain this to me when when was your run with this?

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 4>Because I didn't do a run, I helped workshop Hamilton.

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 5>Ah, So I did the original table like the the.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Last not the last workshop, but the second to last

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 4>workshop to Hamilton. We did a workshop up at Vassar

0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 4>at New York Station Film, which was amazing, and then

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 4>I did A Raisin in the Sun. And I couldn't

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 4>really do anything while I was doing A Raisin in

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 4>the Sun because it was a three hour tour and

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 4>I was it was just a really busy and heavy

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 4>show and dramatic, and I didn't have a lot of

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.120
<v Speaker 4>space to do other things while that was happening. They

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 4>were still doing work another workshop for it after that,

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 4>and they got the lovely Renee Goldsbery and she ended

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 4>up being blessed with the role. But that's how those

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 4>things happened, you know what I mean. Like sometimes sometimes.

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Bill, I was I was not at that.

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 6>I thought you were going to bring up being on

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 6>the Sesame Street float, which is what you and Anica

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 6>have in common other than many other things.

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 5>No, but I mean she when I read that she

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 5>was in the initial Hamilton thing, I was like, wait

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 5>a minute, Bill, that's that's your whole world I did.

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 6>I didn't know that I wasn't. I wasn't there during that,

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 6>but I know that Anica was the first Angelica many

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 6>many moons ago.

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, okay.

0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 1>I was just confused because when I read that, I

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was like, wait a minute, I could have.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 6>Sworn it was to make a record a mirror, and

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 6>she was not there when we made that record.

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. I was like, wait, was I

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>in ruined?

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 4>It was so crazy? Is that Renee and I actually

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 4>did the good fun together? And she is so amazing

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 4>and beautiful and fantastic. And to watch her, you know,

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 4>step up there and get that Tony and give that

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 4>beautiful speech afterwards. I was so happy for her because

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 4>she is such a good person as well as being

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, stupendously talented and not too painful on the eye.

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:34.439
<v Speaker 4>She's she's a lovely human being. So, you know, sometimes

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 4>you lose out on a role as somebody, and with

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 4>no rationality at all, you're sitting at home mad at

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 4>the person. It has nothing to do with that person

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 4>and you, but you have a little mad you home,

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 4>sending them to no mad cussing under your breath. But

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 4>she is somebody for whom you really can't begrudge anything.

0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 4>She's so good at what she does. She's such a

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 4>lo person. She is, She's really a blessing. So I

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 4>was really really happy for her. Does that mean I

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 4>was not sad that I didn't get to do it now,

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 4>But it does mean I had a great time when

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 4>I did do it, and I was happy that the

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 4>person who ended up getting to do it was somebody

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 4>really beautifully fitted to what it was.

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 5>Oh nice, I mean you wanted Tony previously for Carolina Cheams.

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 5>What was that like to I believe that that world

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 5>is very not unpenetrable, but just very hard to get

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.280
<v Speaker 5>a seat at the table, just based on my limited

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 5>experience of being in that world, So I mean, what

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 5>did it feel like to get the acknowledgment?

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 4>At least it was one of the most amazing moments

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 4>of my career because it was the last thing that

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 4>I expected. I just had no idea that that was

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 4>what was going on to come from that role. And

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 4>even when at the time people were like, oh, we're

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 4>coming to see your show, I was like, well, it's

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.439
<v Speaker 4>not really my show. I come in at this point

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 4>in time, but come to see the show, because the

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 4>show is amazing and everybody was phenomenal in it. I

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 4>was stunned when I got nominated and then when I won,

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 4>I I if you ever get to see that video,

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Like my head dropped, Like they said my name, they

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 4>said my first name. I didn't even hear my middle name.

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 4>My head went down. And then I was just focused

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 4>on not tripping.

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 1>As I got to the stage, Everyone's like, don't fall,

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 1>don't fall.

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of wires.

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Don't tell you that on the heel.

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 4>And you haven't eaten for six hours freezing because yeah,

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 4>and you're not trying to drink nothing because your dress

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:01.040
<v Speaker 4>is fitted and you're not trying to have come up

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 4>put a pinch, so all those things. But I did

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 4>have a lunar bar in my purse. Oh I always

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 4>have a snack. I'm the one who a snack because

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 4>otherwise I'm cranky.

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 1>So you established that you're angry, like, but.

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 10>My friend my friends like, NA, we're just going to

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 10>carry some snacks for you because you don't really know

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 10>how to act after a certain impoortant time.

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, no, but I can't even deny that.

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.840
<v Speaker 4>So I had snacks. But you know what was amazing

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 4>to me was that it was a collection of my

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 4>peers who said, you, you did something that stands out

0:37:56.440 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 4>that is worthy of recognition. And I looked out into

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 4>Radio City Music Hall and the people in the balcony.

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 4>I could see them barely, but I could see them

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 4>like they stood, and I could hear. At some point

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.760
<v Speaker 4>my hearing came back, like I got to the stage

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 4>and then I could hear this wave of applause and

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 4>I could see the Oh, the woman who wrote the music,

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 4>Jantia Sorri, was climbing over somebody else to grab them.

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 4>While it was happening, my brother was in the audience,

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 4>my grandmother was there, and both of my parents, and

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 4>I think I was so very moved and full, and

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 4>I think that you know those times when you just

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 4>have no idea, like I didn't even know when nominations

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 4>came out, and I try not to know because I

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 4>feel like it's stress. Live. I don't need that stress.

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's so rare that we're in a position

0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.879
<v Speaker 4>where we were nominated for something and then go ahead

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 4>and get it. That's something else, So I don't need

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 4>to be thinking about oh, April second is blah blah.

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 4>That's stress you don't need, so I just go on

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 4>about my life. But I had zero idea that that

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:10.919
<v Speaker 4>was going to happen. And it was phenomenal. It was phenomenal,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 4>that feeling, and it led to me being in Dreamgirls

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 4>because Bill Condon saw Carolina change and then he came

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 4>back and saw me in Pearly and that's how I

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 4>got to audition for Dreamgirls.

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:30.879
<v Speaker 8>Like it was an audition, the audition it was.

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 4>It was interesting because I was such a knucklehead and

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 4>I was so new. They had asked me to audition,

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 4>and I said, well, you know, I'm actually supposed to

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 4>perform at the Library of Congress and I told him

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 4>that I would and I can't pull out of that

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 4>because you know, it's a performance that I said I

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 4>would do, and so let me know when you have

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 4>a second round of auditions. That could have gone so wrong.

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 4>So they did. They did let me know, and they

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 4>were like, but now we're in Los Angeles, and I said, well,

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm guess I'm gonna fly myself to Los Angeles. And

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 4>that's not something that I do regularly. I really generally

0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 4>feel like if somebody really really wants you in something,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 4>a company they'll send for you. Yeah, but if you

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 4>really really really want something and you have to decide

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 4>what that thing is, then then bring yourself and go

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 4>get it. And my point of view was I'm coming

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 4>to get this, So I flew myself out. I did

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 4>an audition. It was a great audition. It was months

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 4>before I heard from them, like it must have been

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 4>three months, I think it was. And then they wanted

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:49.719
<v Speaker 4>me to come to a callback and they flew me

0:40:49.840 --> 0:40:52.319
<v Speaker 4>out for the callback and there was a limo that

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:53.800
<v Speaker 4>met me at the airport.

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:57.240
<v Speaker 8>And I was like, what, I didn't notice really happy

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 8>by this time? Where were they in the casting process?

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 8>Like had some people been casting and some hadn't, or

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 8>like where were they by the time you got I wish.

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 4>That I could tell you, But you know what I

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 4>was concerned about myself, Eddie Murphy, you know already in there.

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.120
<v Speaker 4>I think they were already there from the beginning, but

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 4>we weren't auditioning with them, and they were still trying

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.360
<v Speaker 4>to figure out who the girls were going to be together,

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 4>you know. And there are so many reasons why I

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 4>may not have gotten that job. I'm short, I am

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:35.280
<v Speaker 4>five two and a half Beyonce, I think it's five six.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 4>Jennifer is five and nine. You might not have seen

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:44.840
<v Speaker 4>me on screen, so it was you know, it was

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 4>me and five and literally five and a half inch

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 4>heels through that entire movie, so that we could all

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 4>be on screen together. And those are some of the

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.960
<v Speaker 4>things that people don't know happened. When you're casting something.

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 4>You got the Lollipop.

0:41:58.239 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Guild me.

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.439
<v Speaker 4>Say so. Anyway, so I went, they flew me out,

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 4>and I auditioned again, and I sang ain't no party

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 4>live and with no music, and and then it was

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:17.479
<v Speaker 4>like another three months and and I was.

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 7>Like, well, you know, you start three months waiting, like

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:22.920
<v Speaker 7>how are you supporting yoursel are you still working as

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 7>an actress like making money and stuff?

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 4>You know what, I've been very lucky that I've never

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 4>done anything else with this. I've never waited at a table.

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 4>I've only done this.

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 8>Straight from school.

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 4>And I'm grateful for that because I've seen people at restaurants,

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, people come in getting real entitled about their medium,

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 4>well Hamburgers. So I'm grateful for that. And I have

0:42:57.800 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 4>a lot of respect for the people who can deal

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 4>with the public feeling special about their Hairburger. So I've

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 4>never had to do anything else, but I have been broke,

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 4>and at that time, I really wasn't having much money

0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 4>flow coming in because I didn't have a stage job

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 4>in that moment, and I remember, but I still had

0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 4>to get my hair done because your hair is your face,

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 4>so you have an audition, your hair need to be right.

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 4>So I was getting my hair done. I was under

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 4>a hair dryer and my phone rang and my agent

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 4>was trying to talk to me, and I was like,

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 4>what I can't hear, I can't.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:40.239
<v Speaker 8>You gotta be calling you.

0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 4>So I got out from under the dryer and called

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 4>this person back and they told me that I had

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 4>gotten the role. And I was sitting in the hair hairdresser,

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 4>tears running down my face because I wanted it so

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 4>badly and I felt like it was for me, like

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 4>I felt it in that moment. Sometimes you're wrong, though,

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 4>and I was so thrilled that this was the next

0:44:10.200 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 4>thing that I was going to do because I knew

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 4>that music and I knew that show really well. And

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 4>then Anthony Manguela, who did the Number one Ladies Detective Agency,

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 4>saw me and Dreamgirls called Bill Condon to ask what

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:27.719
<v Speaker 4>kind of person I was, and that's how I got

0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 4>the audition for Number one Ladies. So everything is sort

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 4>of connected.

0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 2>I see, I want to know. I know that you

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:40.240
<v Speaker 2>worked with the great Debbie Allen.

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:47.280
<v Speaker 5>She's one of our bucket list hopefuls for this show.

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 5>What was it like working under her direction? For Kat

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 5>on a high ten roof? First it was this all

0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 5>black version of it, which is unusual.

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Like, what was it like? And also with James L.

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Jones was in that book, right, Yes he was.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 4>That was my big daddy, and Felicia.

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Was, Yeah it was.

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:16.440
<v Speaker 4>It was great working with her because you're working with

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 4>somebody who knows the stage like the back of her hand.

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 4>You're working with someone who has no pretense. You're working

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 4>with someone who will occasionally pull your hair to make

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 4>a point. And I love her. I love her deeply.

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 4>And the fact that she came to me with that

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 4>role was I mean, it's something I never thought I

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 4>would do, not because I didn't think I was able

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.399
<v Speaker 4>to do it. I just never thought that I would

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:53.000
<v Speaker 4>be considered for that role. I mean, you're talking about

0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 4>a sacred cow Tennessee Williams, who would have ever thought

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 4>a black Maggie would grace a stage?

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's the role Elizabeth Taylor played.

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And I loved that play and I loved those words,

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:11.359
<v Speaker 4>and I loved that woman, Maggie. She's an amazing and

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 4>tortured soul. And Debbie said, you know, would you like

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.160
<v Speaker 4>to do this? And I said absolutely. And I will

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 4>really be grateful to her forever for giving me that

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 4>opportunity to stretch myself like that and to be an adult,

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 4>like a full blonde woman on stage, which until that

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 4>point I had not really done. I was playing kids

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 4>most of the time and really young people, and this

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 4>was somebody who all the youth had been sort of

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:46.320
<v Speaker 4>sucked out of her. She was and she was a woman,

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:50.360
<v Speaker 4>and she traveled the world in womanhood before she was

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 4>even a woman. So this was something that it was

0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 4>perfect in my life space because I had known disappointment

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 4>at that point in time, and I had known pain, hurt,

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:04.760
<v Speaker 4>and Debbie knew, she knew that peace, and she knew

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 4>that stage, and she just she just set me free

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 4>in that space. I and I'm really, really to this

0:47:11.000 --> 0:47:13.880
<v Speaker 4>day very grateful for her. And she's somebody you can

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 4>laugh with but also who has done her homework and

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 4>you know that you can have an in depth and

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 4>fruitful conversation about the art of it with her.

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 7>So okay, one question I had for you, Anita, I

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 7>was specifically concerning your time at FAM.

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>You it's not too many, we won't get.

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 7>Too many HBCU grads, you know, to show I'm as

0:47:39.280 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 7>I graduated North Calina Central, and yeah, FAM, he was

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 7>actually one of my schools. I was, you know, I

0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:47.839
<v Speaker 7>got like a seventy two, but I wasn't going all

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 7>the way to down Florida. But yeah, oh yeah, that's right. Yeah,

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.439
<v Speaker 7>like you too, So yeah, just tell us about that time,

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 7>you know, going to FAM, and just what that experience

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 7>was like for you and how you think that influenced

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 7>your artistry.

0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, I wanted to go to an HBCU. I didn't

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 4>know which one I was going to, but I knew

0:48:10.520 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to go, and I had already been accepted

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 4>at a couple of other schools that were, you know,

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 4>traditional schools. But I had family who went to Howard,

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:24.480
<v Speaker 4>I had family who went to Hampton, I had family

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 4>who went to FAM, and so I was familiar with

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 4>these schools and I don't know. I wanted to go

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:38.440
<v Speaker 4>someplace that was small enough to build a program and

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 4>have individualized attention if you needed it. That was important

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:51.399
<v Speaker 4>to me because say, Howard Grade School, fantastic school, huge, so.

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 8>That much smaller.

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 4>It's the department is much smaller.

0:48:57.920 --> 0:48:58.880
<v Speaker 8>Oh, the department.

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 4>The department is much And I was coming from Connecticut,

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 4>and that's another reason why I wanted to have a

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 4>an HBCU experience, because that wasn't my growing up experience.

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.359
<v Speaker 4>Like in my particular neighborhood, I was one of two

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:22.280
<v Speaker 4>black folks and I don't know if the other person

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.320
<v Speaker 4>knew that they were wanting.

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 5>To two.

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Connect Bloomfield.

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh, beautiful town, gorgeous town and a great growing up

0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 4>and I'm happy to have had it. But it was

0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 4>important to me to have that experience. And I, you know,

0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:42.120
<v Speaker 4>and I grew up in a family who made it.

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 4>You know. I was very clear about who I was

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.000
<v Speaker 4>and where I came from and what my history was.

0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know if I would ever I don't think

0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:52.759
<v Speaker 4>I would ever have the opportunity again after this time

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 4>to be surrounded by my own culture. So that was

0:49:56.440 --> 0:50:00.960
<v Speaker 4>important to me to have that experience, and it was.

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 4>I think it was a good experience. It was a

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 4>good place to be on stage. I studied theater, so

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 4>I didn't study acting necessarily specifically. I studied theater so

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 4>that meant I was acting. If I wasn't acting, I

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 4>was doing costuming or directing or fighting. Yeah, I was

0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:21.400
<v Speaker 4>doing everything. And I think that that was a gift

0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:24.160
<v Speaker 4>to me as an actor because it made it very

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 4>clear that there are a lot of other things happening

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 4>around you that make the thing work. It ain't you.

0:50:33.120 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 4>You know, you you are the reason the one thing

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 4>that you're doing is happening. But you can't just do that,

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. And so I think it

0:50:44.880 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 4>made me very appreciative of everything that happened all around me.

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 4>And and the band was exquisite U and I knew

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 4>the band before I had gotten to the school, and

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.880
<v Speaker 4>I had seen them live before I got into the school,

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 4>and they were you know, it was just such an

0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 4>amazing culture to be a part of and to be

0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 4>proud to be a part of. And there are a

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 4>lot of HBCUs with some good bands, but then there's

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 4>fam you.

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Did this? Did you did this? Prepare you for your

0:51:23.600 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 1>time on the quad?

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 2>On BT.

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 4>Because you know what was amazing about my time on

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 4>the Quad is that I was playing a woman who

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 4>was from Connecticut who was thrown into the HBCU experienced

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:38.640
<v Speaker 4>And did they.

0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 5>Know your did they know your history when writing this

0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:45.000
<v Speaker 5>character or it was just coincidence Rob Hardy did.

0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Rob Hardy did, but a little bit of coincidence. And

0:51:50.760 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 4>it was really interesting and great for me to be

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 4>able to bring that aspect of myself to what I

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 4>was doing. And I had spent a lot of time

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 4>in academia because because of family, and my grandmother was

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 4>a teacher, and so all of those things sort of

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:14.719
<v Speaker 4>came to ahead. But the HBCU thing, most assuredly, I

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:16.960
<v Speaker 4>think you have to live it to know it, and

0:52:17.920 --> 0:52:20.960
<v Speaker 4>you can read about it and you can watch some video,

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 4>but you sort of have to live it to know it.

0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 4>And I was grateful to be able to bring that

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 4>part of myself to that space. And we had a

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 4>couple of writers on staff who were HBCU people, and

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.719
<v Speaker 4>Rob Hardy, who also went to family, was one of

0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:39.879
<v Speaker 4>the creators. So it was luck that all of that

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:45.640
<v Speaker 4>came together in one space. And she was a pretty

0:52:45.680 --> 0:52:51.360
<v Speaker 4>fun character to play.

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:53.759
<v Speaker 8>Can I ask a random role question because it was

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 8>two roles I just wanted to ask you about, and

0:52:55.960 --> 0:52:57.880
<v Speaker 8>one of them is very random, but it's still one

0:52:57.920 --> 0:53:04.279
<v Speaker 8>of my favorite episodes of this brandis Law and Order. Yes,

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:06.840
<v Speaker 8>Law and Order SVU. I wanted to ask you about that.

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:09.160
<v Speaker 8>And I wanted to ask you about what that now

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 8>that I know, I mean, I knew you were from Connecticut,

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:13.879
<v Speaker 8>but what that meant as an East Coast actor? What

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 8>that means to East Coast actors in a way? And

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 8>was that something that you felt like you had to do?

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.040
<v Speaker 8>It was on a bucket list of sorts in a way,

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:24.200
<v Speaker 8>because it's I feel like everybody has run through Lawn Order.

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 4>It was not, And it was a badge of honor

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:29.919
<v Speaker 4>to be the only New York actor that I knew

0:53:29.960 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 4>who had never been on Lawn Order. I was like,

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.879
<v Speaker 4>apparently they don't want me, and I'm the only New

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 4>York actor they don't want, So I'm going to turn

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 4>that into an honor.

0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.719
<v Speaker 9>Instead of being like, y'all do I can't even be

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 9>dead in the park like people die every week, right you?

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:53.799
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even get that.

0:53:54.360 --> 0:54:00.360
<v Speaker 4>So it took years before that happened. And and it

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 4>was a great and interesting role. And the guy who

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 4>wrote it, Oh, it's Matthew's last name. I can't think

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 4>of his last name, but I'm gonna figure it out

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:15.280
<v Speaker 4>right now because that's rude. He he was so good

0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 4>and I'm looking him up right now. That's why I'm

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 4>trying to multitach my mind. He saw you on David Matthews.

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:26.399
<v Speaker 4>David Matthews wrote that episode. Warren Light is a really

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:29.440
<v Speaker 4>good dude, and they love theater people. But David wrote

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 4>something so interesting with this character, this woman, this Marriam Dang,

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:37.359
<v Speaker 4>who was based on a real person who had had

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 4>that situation happened to her. And I cannot remember.

0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:45.200
<v Speaker 8>The real woman's in the beginning, Okay, I researched.

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 4>Her, I pulled her up. I listened to her accent

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 4>over and over again to find this woman and it

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 4>was an interesting accent. It was different for me to do,

0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 4>but it was fun. It was fun to do, and

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:01.799
<v Speaker 4>it was just it was something different for me to do.

0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.480
<v Speaker 4>And then I now, I can't say I'm the only

0:55:04.520 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 4>one who they didn't want.

0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 8>My second world question was just about going to be

0:55:13.960 --> 0:55:16.440
<v Speaker 8>about jukebox and the way that character was brought to you,

0:55:16.560 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 8>and if it was brought to you, if you auditioned,

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<v Speaker 8>and why it took it.

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Took me four episodes to realize it was her.

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.440
<v Speaker 8>Oh my god, you were just That's when I was like, oh,

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 8>she's you.

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 6>Just all things are kind of flying by you mirror like, like, no.

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Things, No, you're still in the doghouse. Yo, I'm gonna

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 1>come back. I'm gonna come back. Wait till we get

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:38.959
<v Speaker 1>to the Princess of the Frog.

0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.759
<v Speaker 6>I got Betty questions, but literally literally and all kinds

0:55:41.800 --> 0:55:42.080
<v Speaker 6>of ship.

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:46.279
<v Speaker 5>There's a point where you know where I guess you

0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:50.480
<v Speaker 5>were going to Kiltaric or whatever. And when I watched

0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:52.879
<v Speaker 5>the credits to the end, I was like, no, that's

0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 5>not her, let's get out of it. And then I

0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 5>realized that was you and I had to rewatch that

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 5>episode again. Yeah, I totally did not make that you

0:56:03.480 --> 0:56:06.239
<v Speaker 5>until you really lost there.

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:10.440
<v Speaker 4>For me, that is See, that's my favorite compliment. I

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:16.440
<v Speaker 4>love that. I loved jukebox. I loved jukebox.

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.960
<v Speaker 5>Courtney put you to do it, or like how I

0:56:20.000 --> 0:56:21.799
<v Speaker 5>met her. She's one of the nicest people ever.

0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:29.000
<v Speaker 4>Also from Connecticut. Courtney and I have mutual friends and

0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:33.840
<v Speaker 4>we met at a game night and Courtney also wrote

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 4>on The Good Wife? What so she knew me from

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 4>The Good Wife? I didn't know her at that point.

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:43.680
<v Speaker 4>And then we met at this game night and had

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 4>a great time. And when we met, we were like,

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:51.359
<v Speaker 4>we like each other. We should go to lunch. And

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:56.400
<v Speaker 4>so we went to lunch and she was like, you know, Anica,

0:56:57.360 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 4>if there was a is there a role that you'd

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 4>want to play that you feel like no one would

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:08.160
<v Speaker 4>ever give you? And I was like, huh, well yeah.

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 4>She was like, well what is that? I was like,

0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:16.400
<v Speaker 4>I would like to be a complete badass, preferably on

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 4>a motorcycle, which I don't drive. I don't ride motorcycles.

0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 4>But I'm thinking this is something new when I would

0:57:21.480 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 4>have given me and you know, just completely like wild

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 4>and the outside of anything somebody would think of me for.

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 4>And this was years before before power had even happened.

0:57:33.680 --> 0:57:36.040
<v Speaker 4>And she was like, oh, that would be really cool.

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:38.520
<v Speaker 4>I'd love to see you this way. And I was

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 4>like yeah. And so cut to a couple of years later,

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 4>I'd get a call saying would you be interested in

0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 4>She's a cop, She's a rogue cop, she's a lesbian

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:57.439
<v Speaker 4>she's sort of murderous. I said, yes, yes, I would.

0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:01.960
<v Speaker 4>I would be absolutely. I mean, you ain't got to

0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:07.440
<v Speaker 4>tell me nothing else. Thank you. I loved her. I

0:58:07.480 --> 0:58:11.200
<v Speaker 4>loved her because she was ruthless and interesting and different,

0:58:11.440 --> 0:58:13.600
<v Speaker 4>and it's something I would never be in life, you

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, Like I would never want to

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 4>do the things that she did in life. But that's

0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:19.680
<v Speaker 4>one of those times where you can do all the

0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:23.080
<v Speaker 4>horrible things on screen and have fun with it. And

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 4>I got to mush fifty cent in the head, like

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 4>we guessed the mushif.

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>More than mush fifty cent in the head yo.

0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 8>And the accent I heard a DZ accent. I appreciate it.

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.440
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it was. It was really

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:39.800
<v Speaker 4>really fun for me. And it was so well written.

0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 4>The episodes were so well written. And that was that, honestly,

0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:48.440
<v Speaker 4>was another moment where they were just like, so, how

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:51.440
<v Speaker 4>you want to do it? And I was like, oh, really,

0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:56.880
<v Speaker 4>let's go. I just got to go. And I have

0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:58.960
<v Speaker 4>been in New Yorker for so long, you know, I'd

0:58:59.000 --> 0:59:01.680
<v Speaker 4>lived in New York for a really long time, and

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:03.960
<v Speaker 4>I've always been I grew up on the East Coast,

0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:08.160
<v Speaker 4>so you know, Thank God. I haven't had to really

0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:11.200
<v Speaker 4>spend time with those people, but I've definitely seen those people,

0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:13.840
<v Speaker 4>and you recognize them when you see them, when you

0:59:13.880 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 4>look into their eye and you see like they are

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:23.800
<v Speaker 4>not worried about doing away with you. It would not

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:28.560
<v Speaker 4>bother them. You've seen those people. So I loved her.

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:30.720
<v Speaker 4>I loved her, and thank you.

0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:39.040
<v Speaker 5>Okay, So if you can, can you completely walk me now?

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 5>I feel safe asking this question because people already know

0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:51.320
<v Speaker 5>on the show that my animation watching activity is very

0:59:51.440 --> 0:59:56.320
<v Speaker 5>very low, with the exception of occasional few, so I

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 5>don't feel bad when people ridicule.

0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Me for not you never saw the Lion King.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I've been through all that, So can you walk

1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:11.360
<v Speaker 5>me through the process now? And again, I know this

1:00:11.440 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 5>is a very historical pivotal, not even for you, but

1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:17.320
<v Speaker 5>just for history.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it, keep going, keep.

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<v Speaker 6>We didn't see Princess at the front.

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<v Speaker 4>But.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'm asking is to please walk me through the

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<v Speaker 5>process of how that role came to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the best ship ever. I have daughters and

1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:44.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just great.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in l A doing Carolina Change after we

1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:55.439
<v Speaker 4>closed the New York Rule, the New York Run. We

1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:58.840
<v Speaker 4>did a soft tour, just La and San Francisco, and

1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:00.840
<v Speaker 4>that was all I did, because by then I had

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<v Speaker 4>done over three hundred shows. And while I was in La,

1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:08.080
<v Speaker 4>the Disney people came to see it at the mark

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<v Speaker 4>Taper and they were like, we'd love to have a

1:01:10.440 --> 1:01:15.160
<v Speaker 4>meeting with you, and I was like yes, because I

1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:18.800
<v Speaker 4>had always wanted to be a Disney voice, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>a Princess. I really didn't care what I was going

1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:24.680
<v Speaker 4>to be. I just wanted to be a voice. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I had this meeting and I told them that

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to be anything, and I could be

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<v Speaker 4>a fleet even and I had a sound for the

1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:39.760
<v Speaker 4>fleet or the ticket, and they probably thought I was insane,

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<v Speaker 4>and from that meeting I was a couple of years later,

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<v Speaker 4>three years later, two years later, they called me for

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<v Speaker 4>to audition for The Princess and the Frog and I

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<v Speaker 4>read that the piece that they gave you, because they

1:01:58.200 --> 1:02:00.440
<v Speaker 4>don't give you the whole thing, and I was like, oh,

1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:03.920
<v Speaker 4>I know this girl. I am this girl. I am

1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:07.920
<v Speaker 4>from a small town where nobody did the thing that

1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:14.280
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to do. I spent my growing up and

1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:17.920
<v Speaker 4>trying to do what I do, being told you know

1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:21.720
<v Speaker 4>that it wasn't perhaps possible. I knew who this girl

1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:26.200
<v Speaker 4>was and I was a hard worker. So it took

1:02:26.240 --> 1:02:30.840
<v Speaker 4>three auditions over I don't know, must have been a

1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:37.800
<v Speaker 4>year that those auditions happened. One was the first one

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<v Speaker 4>was the day after the Dream Girl's premiere in LA,

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<v Speaker 4>So you will see no pictures of me at the

1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:49.280
<v Speaker 4>Dreamgirls premiere party in La because I went back to

1:02:49.360 --> 1:02:52.240
<v Speaker 4>my hotel room and I worked on that audition and

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<v Speaker 4>I think I sang everything in my book when I

1:02:55.320 --> 1:02:57.000
<v Speaker 4>went in there, because I was like, I'm going to

1:02:57.040 --> 1:03:01.760
<v Speaker 4>get this wrong. And the second one was some time later,

1:03:02.520 --> 1:03:06.080
<v Speaker 4>and I also crazy. I was working on a show

1:03:06.200 --> 1:03:09.360
<v Speaker 4>in Australia and I got a call back for the

1:03:09.360 --> 1:03:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Princess and the Frog, and I was in Oh God,

1:03:13.760 --> 1:03:18.120
<v Speaker 4>I was in New York. I was flying out to Australia.

1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:20.560
<v Speaker 4>I think the next two days I was flying out

1:03:21.200 --> 1:03:26.240
<v Speaker 4>and my audition was going to be I had to

1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:30.600
<v Speaker 4>go to Australia, unpack a bag, shoot for one day,

1:03:31.000 --> 1:03:34.960
<v Speaker 4>get on another plane, go back to LA And the

1:03:35.080 --> 1:03:39.600
<v Speaker 4>day after that was my second audition. That sounds crazy

1:03:39.640 --> 1:03:45.440
<v Speaker 4>because it was. However, I didn't care because I wanted

1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:48.400
<v Speaker 4>that role and I was like, if I have to

1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:51.720
<v Speaker 4>turn around and get dressed on this plane and gargle

1:03:51.800 --> 1:03:55.080
<v Speaker 4>my way to Bourbank, I'm coming to get this role.

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<v Speaker 4>So we did that, and then time went past, and

1:03:59.360 --> 1:04:02.040
<v Speaker 4>I think I will It was two thousand and six,

1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:05.240
<v Speaker 4>so I was we were doing the Oscars telecast for

1:04:05.360 --> 1:04:08.520
<v Speaker 4>dream Girls, and Randy Newman was there because he of

1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:12.120
<v Speaker 4>course had something that was nominated. And I'm looking at

1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:13.880
<v Speaker 4>him because he had been in the room audition.

1:04:14.000 --> 1:04:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hi, toy Story sixteen.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm just hoping he's gonna say something positive to me,

1:04:21.320 --> 1:04:28.960
<v Speaker 4>and he was like hey. And some more months went

1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:32.200
<v Speaker 4>by before I got the word, and that one I

1:04:32.280 --> 1:04:34.280
<v Speaker 4>got the word walking down the street in New York,

1:04:35.560 --> 1:04:38.280
<v Speaker 4>headed to the bank with a sad piece of check

1:04:38.320 --> 1:04:40.280
<v Speaker 4>in my hand. I don't know what. I just know

1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:43.280
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't it wasn't exciting, but I was happy to

1:04:43.280 --> 1:04:45.200
<v Speaker 4>be putting it in the bank. And I got the

1:04:45.240 --> 1:04:47.840
<v Speaker 4>call walking down Broadway that I had gotten that role,

1:04:47.920 --> 1:04:49.920
<v Speaker 4>and they were like, you should where are you? I

1:04:50.000 --> 1:04:52.800
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, oh, broa, where and they were like,

1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:55.520
<v Speaker 4>you should come to our offices so we can celebrate.

1:04:55.560 --> 1:04:59.000
<v Speaker 4>And I bopped myself to the Disney offices and had

1:04:59.080 --> 1:05:04.680
<v Speaker 4>an intense, tearful, fabulous celebration and you know, three years

1:05:04.680 --> 1:05:08.080
<v Speaker 4>of making later it came out. Wow.

1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:11.000
<v Speaker 1>So it took three years from that point, wow for

1:05:11.120 --> 1:05:11.800
<v Speaker 1>it to come out.

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<v Speaker 4>And was that really what you were asking me? And

1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:15.960
<v Speaker 4>I gave you an hire?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, we lived for this is the rabbit Hole Central.

1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:23.760
<v Speaker 5>We we lived for those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait can you.

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<v Speaker 6>Talk about can you talk about Princess and the Frog?

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<v Speaker 6>Like the music so like straight out of New Orleans

1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:32.840
<v Speaker 6>and like just the whole process of like getting into

1:05:32.840 --> 1:05:36.560
<v Speaker 6>that vibe. Also Randy Newman known for like the medium

1:05:36.600 --> 1:05:39.720
<v Speaker 6>shuffle sort of getting himself out of that and writing

1:05:39.760 --> 1:05:43.360
<v Speaker 6>things that are very you know, New orleansy as it were,

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<v Speaker 6>And like, how did what was it? What was your

1:05:45.640 --> 1:05:47.280
<v Speaker 6>approach to that and how did you feel about like

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<v Speaker 6>being that character?

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<v Speaker 4>I loved being that character.

1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:53.600
<v Speaker 6>Because the singing, like the acting and the voice stuff

1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:55.200
<v Speaker 6>is great in that show, but the singing and like,

1:05:55.520 --> 1:05:57.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, you're always trying and Disney stuff to be

1:05:57.640 --> 1:06:00.920
<v Speaker 6>the next great Disney songs, because these songs are are

1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:03.520
<v Speaker 6>so high. This is coming from a guy who works

1:06:03.560 --> 1:06:05.800
<v Speaker 6>to saysme street Disney songs are so high on the

1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:08.480
<v Speaker 6>you know, on the thing of great songs, Like, did

1:06:08.480 --> 1:06:09.640
<v Speaker 6>you feel a sense of purpose?

1:06:09.680 --> 1:06:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel a.

1:06:10.080 --> 1:06:13.760
<v Speaker 6>Sense of that you had to to be up. I mean,

1:06:13.960 --> 1:06:15.560
<v Speaker 6>you're always up to a certain level. I'm not going

1:06:15.600 --> 1:06:17.160
<v Speaker 6>to say that, but like, did you feel a sense

1:06:17.200 --> 1:06:18.520
<v Speaker 6>of having to push it over the top?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what was what was that? I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get canceled again.

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<v Speaker 4>No, my finger is hovering, but I didn't. I have

1:06:27.920 --> 1:06:33.000
<v Speaker 4>to tap the new button. I'm glad. No. I felt

1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:39.600
<v Speaker 4>a sense of responsibility towards the character. I felt a

1:06:39.720 --> 1:06:42.520
<v Speaker 4>strong sense of responsibility towards her because I wanted her

1:06:42.600 --> 1:06:47.160
<v Speaker 4>to be as honest and as real as possible. And

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like it was something that I was old

1:06:51.880 --> 1:06:54.640
<v Speaker 4>as a little black girl in this country who grew

1:06:54.720 --> 1:06:57.280
<v Speaker 4>up on Disney. I felt like it was something that

1:06:59.000 --> 1:07:03.480
<v Speaker 4>my parents' generation were old, having never seen that. And

1:07:03.520 --> 1:07:06.280
<v Speaker 4>I felt like it was something that was old to

1:07:07.000 --> 1:07:12.760
<v Speaker 4>the generation coming up behind me, that this person be real,

1:07:13.680 --> 1:07:20.960
<v Speaker 4>that she be relatable, that she be honest. And there

1:07:21.000 --> 1:07:24.000
<v Speaker 4>were things that we talked about as we went through it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, musically, I wanted to hear the youth in

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<v Speaker 4>her voice, particularly as we started the movie, and the

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<v Speaker 4>wonder in her voice, and I wanted her to be

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<v Speaker 4>true to the sound of that era. So the movie

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<v Speaker 4>starts with a tiny song the evening star shine and right,

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<v Speaker 4>so make a wish and hold on time. There's magic

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<v Speaker 4>in the air to night and anything can that was

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<v Speaker 4>flat thing can happen. So I wanted that beginning to

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<v Speaker 4>definitely be as magical and whimsical as possible. And as

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<v Speaker 4>we went through almost there, you got her spirit in there,

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<v Speaker 4>and you got her soul in there. That last note

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<v Speaker 4>that I was able to just I was given the

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<v Speaker 4>space to just hold and go with it. And then

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<v Speaker 4>at the end, when she sings down in New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 4>which Doctor John had sung towards the beginning of the movie,

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like it was important to hear the maturity

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<v Speaker 4>of who she had become and the journey that she

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<v Speaker 4>had gone through. So it's still her, but you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we all sing differently for different occasions, different feelings, different moments.

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<v Speaker 4>I really put some a little bit of her gut

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<v Speaker 4>in that song because I felt like she was freed

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<v Speaker 4>of some things. She was freed of the responsibility that

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<v Speaker 4>she had put on herself. She was a she was

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<v Speaker 4>more open to just having some fun she had found love,

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<v Speaker 4>which she didn't expect, and she had achieved her dream.

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<v Speaker 4>And I feel like that is an opening up that

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<v Speaker 4>happens that takes you from being a girl to a

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<v Speaker 4>young woman. And I wanted that to be heard in

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<v Speaker 4>her voice. So when you get to that down in

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<v Speaker 4>New Orleans, sorry, down in New Orleans, in the Southland,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a city way down.

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<v Speaker 8>On the river.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to use some more of the bottom part

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<v Speaker 4>of the voice and some more and to let some

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<v Speaker 4>more dirt for lack of a better word, come into

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<v Speaker 4>to her voice for that song. And that was important

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<v Speaker 4>to me, And we had a conversation about it because

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't want her to be to spend a whole

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<v Speaker 4>movie singing in this place.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't want not from.

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<v Speaker 4>New Orleans, you know what I mean. And I felt

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<v Speaker 4>like it was important to the truth of who this

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<v Speaker 4>young woman is and would be to have that space today.

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<v Speaker 5>Were you allowed to sort of drive what your character

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<v Speaker 5>was or did you have to have like a conversation

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<v Speaker 5>with the Disney people, because I you know, I would

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<v Speaker 5>think that at least when you're dealing with the Hollywood

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<v Speaker 5>superpower like that, they're always thinking about Middle America. And

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<v Speaker 5>we don't want to scare them off, and you know

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<v Speaker 5>that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, no, I wasn't worried about Middle America. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>she's from New Orleans, so I was worried about New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 4>And she is me, so I was worried about representing

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<v Speaker 4>you know, who we are. And they wanted it to

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<v Speaker 4>be as true to form as possible. They really did,

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<v Speaker 4>and so I was given the space to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think this would be this doesn't really make

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<v Speaker 4>sense to me for this reason or the other. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was heard when I said those things. Now, mind you,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't write the story, so it's not like the

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily the story was going to change. But if I

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<v Speaker 4>said that something culturally didn't sit well, or if I

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<v Speaker 4>said that, I know, we had a big talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the scene in the I think I'm free to say this,

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<v Speaker 4>the scene in the swamp where when Princess Tianna was

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<v Speaker 4>a frog still and Navin was a frog and they

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<v Speaker 4>were being hunted, and there was when we first did

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<v Speaker 4>that scene, my concern was, I said, what we don't

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<v Speaker 4>want in this scene is for it to feel like

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<v Speaker 4>a slave hunt, because you know, black folks are always

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<v Speaker 4>going to think about and feel that feeling when you've

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<v Speaker 4>got these real what's the good word, like hick white

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<v Speaker 4>dudes with two teeth and a net and some dogs

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<v Speaker 4>running after us. Very important to have the tone of

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<v Speaker 4>that scene correct. And we talked about it, and I

1:12:39.520 --> 1:12:42.400
<v Speaker 4>talked about it and they were like, oh, you're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 4>So it made a difference in how that scene moved

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<v Speaker 4>and the words that were used and how the chase happened.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm and I'm glad that I was working with

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<v Speaker 4>a group of people who were open to hear that.

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<v Speaker 4>And you would think, well, of course they would, because

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<v Speaker 4>they want to make some money, but you'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of times that people don't listen to you.

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<v Speaker 8>As you were saying it to you, I was thinking

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<v Speaker 8>to myself, they listening, and I was wondering if that

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<v Speaker 8>anybody in that room that looked like you though that

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<v Speaker 8>was helping to write that story. But I'm guessing that

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<v Speaker 8>that's why you had to provide that expertise, because.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, I think we had one black writer,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe two, but they weren't always there with us. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think when you're dealing with large entities that you

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<v Speaker 4>do the best you can to make sure that you're heard,

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<v Speaker 4>but sometimes it's hard to be heard. And look, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what conversations happened before I said that, so

1:13:48.200 --> 1:13:49.960
<v Speaker 4>let me make that very clear. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>conversations happened. But sometimes it's hard to be heard from

1:13:54.640 --> 1:14:00.400
<v Speaker 4>the inside of the room. Sometimes something has to come

1:14:00.439 --> 1:14:06.760
<v Speaker 4>through from the outside of the room for people to understand, Oh,

1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:10.280
<v Speaker 4>this isn't just so and so who I work with

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<v Speaker 4>every day. This really is something that you know will

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<v Speaker 4>be a universal thought issue, you know, problem feeling. But

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what they talked about beforehand, but I

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<v Speaker 4>know that for me, that that was something that we

1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:30.800
<v Speaker 4>really needed to talk about. And I'm glad that they

1:14:30.840 --> 1:14:33.200
<v Speaker 4>heard me. And they were really wonderful during the process,

1:14:33.240 --> 1:14:38.320
<v Speaker 4>like really wonderful Peter del Vaco, Ron Clements and John Musker,

1:14:38.400 --> 1:14:42.080
<v Speaker 4>who are amazing and they also did a little Mermaid,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was an amazing production team. And I did

1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:53.000
<v Speaker 4>feel listened to when I spoke I'm and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 4>for that. And I think it's only smart of people

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<v Speaker 4>who are creating something in a culture that isn't theirs

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<v Speaker 4>to listen to the person who in the room for

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<v Speaker 4>whom it is now, am I from New Orleans, No,

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<v Speaker 4>but as a black woman who grew up in this

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<v Speaker 4>country and knows her history and has family in the South.

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<v Speaker 4>There are things that I'm going to bring to that

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<v Speaker 4>that they never would have listened to there. First of all,

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<v Speaker 4>not even women, so we can start there. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was a group of men, but they were good dudes.

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<v Speaker 4>And there were other things that we talked about, like

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<v Speaker 4>I asked for Tiana to be left handed, and they

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<v Speaker 4>were totally into that. Yeah. Right, And that's something that

1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:33.519
<v Speaker 4>you just don't I am, and it's something you just

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<v Speaker 4>don't see, you don't get to see. It was important

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<v Speaker 4>to me that she not have a cookie cutter body.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, you know, this is a black girl,

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<v Speaker 4>so let's make sure that you know, we don't want

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<v Speaker 4>it to look like porn, which sometimes cartoons can do

1:15:46.160 --> 1:15:48.559
<v Speaker 4>to people. But she need to have a booty because

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<v Speaker 4>let's be true to form. Let's make a real person,

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<v Speaker 4>not just paint something that's there. And to be clear,

1:15:59.080 --> 1:16:02.320
<v Speaker 4>this wasn't a fight. They asked me the things that

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<v Speaker 4>I that I thought of that I felt were important,

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<v Speaker 4>and those were, you know, some of the things that

1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:09.559
<v Speaker 4>I talked about, but not all of them. But those

1:16:09.560 --> 1:16:12.479
<v Speaker 4>are the things that you will see immediately. And that

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<v Speaker 4>our hair not be straight, those are things that you'll

1:16:15.320 --> 1:16:19.040
<v Speaker 4>see immediately. And it was and I have now taken

1:16:19.080 --> 1:16:21.400
<v Speaker 4>you all the way to Wonderland because I think I'd

1:16:21.439 --> 1:16:22.800
<v Speaker 4>forgotten what the question was.

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<v Speaker 1>That I got.

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<v Speaker 6>A quest love supreme, where every tangent is a good tangent.

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<v Speaker 8>Again.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this this brings a whole new level of respect

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<v Speaker 1>that you know was already there, but added more to it.

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<v Speaker 5>No, thank thank you for sharing that you're in Tyler

1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:51.440
<v Speaker 5>Perry's uh for Colored Girls with damn near half of Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>What was that?

1:16:53.360 --> 1:16:58.400
<v Speaker 5>What was that whole experience like in doing that that movie?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was interesting because most of those people

1:17:02.360 --> 1:17:08.080
<v Speaker 4>we I didn't see till the end, and I I

1:17:08.080 --> 1:17:16.240
<v Speaker 4>didn't I didn't see them. However, it was it was

1:17:16.280 --> 1:17:20.160
<v Speaker 4>actually a really good experience. And I'll have to say

1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:24.360
<v Speaker 4>that as far as how you're treated on a set,

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<v Speaker 4>Tyler had there were flowers in my trailer every morning

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<v Speaker 4>when I went into work, fresh fresh flowers that had

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<v Speaker 4>never happened before.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that makes a difference.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. All it says is we care.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, and at the very least you're doing so much

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<v Speaker 8>heavy work that it kind of doesn't end up lifting

1:17:45.120 --> 1:17:46.800
<v Speaker 8>a ways. Okay, well, at least I'm starting my day

1:17:46.840 --> 1:17:48.759
<v Speaker 8>off with these flowers, because yeah, start.

1:17:48.600 --> 1:17:52.519
<v Speaker 4>Off with something nice because you're going into the ships

1:17:54.320 --> 1:18:00.160
<v Speaker 4>that one. But that was a really lovely thing. And

1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:02.600
<v Speaker 4>we shot in New York and we shot in Atlanta

1:18:02.720 --> 1:18:06.280
<v Speaker 4>and it was pretty fast. But yeah, so I didn't

1:18:06.320 --> 1:18:08.840
<v Speaker 4>really get to Tandy and I became very close on

1:18:08.880 --> 1:18:13.400
<v Speaker 4>that set. For some reason, we ended up being what

1:18:13.600 --> 1:18:16.400
<v Speaker 4>year was that we ended up being connected that two

1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:21.600
<v Speaker 4>thousand and nine, and Carrie and I became friendly, but

1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:26.559
<v Speaker 4>we didn't really get to find, you know, meld and

1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:30.479
<v Speaker 4>work together because it really as much of an ensemble

1:18:30.479 --> 1:18:34.320
<v Speaker 4>as it was. It was also, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 4>know the original piece, which I'm sure you do, it

1:18:36.280 --> 1:18:41.120
<v Speaker 4>was monologues, right, It was singular stories that cut together

1:18:41.160 --> 1:18:44.840
<v Speaker 4>and touch each other in the corners. So but what

1:18:44.920 --> 1:18:50.600
<v Speaker 4>I am grateful like that monologue is such an amazing

1:18:51.360 --> 1:18:54.800
<v Speaker 4>and phenomenal monologue that I got to do in the hospital.

1:18:55.400 --> 1:18:59.040
<v Speaker 4>And I remember Tyler was like, oh, so we're gonna

1:18:59.080 --> 1:19:02.519
<v Speaker 4>do this shot and then that shot and the other shot,

1:19:03.840 --> 1:19:08.280
<v Speaker 4>and I started to do it. We did a rehearsal,

1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:10.360
<v Speaker 4>and then I went back to and we didn't want

1:19:10.400 --> 1:19:11.880
<v Speaker 4>to use a lot of time because it was so

1:19:11.960 --> 1:19:13.720
<v Speaker 4>emotional and I was coming off with something else and

1:19:13.760 --> 1:19:17.160
<v Speaker 4>going straight into that, and I was supposed to go

1:19:17.200 --> 1:19:20.840
<v Speaker 4>back to makeup, and I said, no, I don't want

1:19:20.840 --> 1:19:23.599
<v Speaker 4>any makeup. I want you to leave my face as

1:19:23.600 --> 1:19:26.880
<v Speaker 4>it is. I think it's important to see her face.

1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:31.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't want her to look nice or better or

1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:36.080
<v Speaker 4>falsely worse. I want you to see her face as

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<v Speaker 4>it is. And he did not fight me on that.

1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:41.679
<v Speaker 4>And then one thing that he did, which I really

1:19:41.720 --> 1:19:43.920
<v Speaker 4>appreciate it was he was like, you know what, we

1:19:43.920 --> 1:19:47.080
<v Speaker 4>were going to do different angles, but you just do

1:19:47.200 --> 1:19:51.320
<v Speaker 4>your monologue. And so instead of doing different angles and

1:19:51.320 --> 1:19:53.880
<v Speaker 4>cutting and doing this and that and the other, I

1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:57.479
<v Speaker 4>did a take and he got closer and closer and

1:19:57.520 --> 1:20:01.400
<v Speaker 4>closer and closer with the camera so that it didn't

1:20:01.439 --> 1:20:03.320
<v Speaker 4>have to be cut up and I didn't have to

1:20:04.560 --> 1:20:10.080
<v Speaker 4>find create that same emotional space because I've waited now

1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:12.840
<v Speaker 4>for fifteen minutes for a camera angle to change or

1:20:12.840 --> 1:20:16.240
<v Speaker 4>for a lens to change, which God bless them, those

1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:18.360
<v Speaker 4>people are doing their jobs, and they're trying to make

1:20:18.400 --> 1:20:20.920
<v Speaker 4>you look as good as possible when the edit is done.

1:20:21.000 --> 1:20:26.160
<v Speaker 4>But sometimes there is something to be said for allowing

1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:32.360
<v Speaker 4>the emotional space to live and just showing it in

1:20:32.439 --> 1:20:35.160
<v Speaker 4>its naked space. And I think that that's something that's

1:20:35.200 --> 1:20:40.360
<v Speaker 4>something that happened in that moment that I think Tyler

1:20:40.479 --> 1:20:43.800
<v Speaker 4>totally made. Well. Look, that sounds crazy, but it felt

1:20:43.800 --> 1:20:45.880
<v Speaker 4>like the right choice to me at the time, and

1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:49.160
<v Speaker 4>as an artist, it definitely was the right choice for

1:20:49.240 --> 1:20:52.759
<v Speaker 4>me to be able to do the best that I could.

1:20:52.600 --> 1:20:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Do in that space, you know what.

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<v Speaker 5>You mentioned that, And then it also hit me that

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<v Speaker 5>well because I worked on it as well. You were

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<v Speaker 5>No No, No, No, not colored girls. I've worked on Roots,

1:21:05.040 --> 1:21:10.400
<v Speaker 5>you were on Kiss, and I totally forgot I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Episode four. I think I was, you know, which was

1:21:17.560 --> 1:21:20.280
<v Speaker 4>quite an honor to bring that, to bring that story

1:21:20.320 --> 1:21:24.360
<v Speaker 4>to the young people, people who haven't seen the original,

1:21:24.439 --> 1:21:27.479
<v Speaker 4>who didn't know about the original, And at first I

1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:29.439
<v Speaker 4>was like, why are y'all doing this again?

1:21:29.640 --> 1:21:34.280
<v Speaker 2>What already?

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<v Speaker 4>And not because it was about slavery, because listen, I

1:21:37.479 --> 1:21:41.160
<v Speaker 4>think it's important that people know about slavery. Here's one thing,

1:21:42.680 --> 1:21:46.600
<v Speaker 4>there's a reason that the Jewish population teaches the Holocaust

1:21:47.120 --> 1:21:50.400
<v Speaker 4>all of the time, and they teach it all of

1:21:50.479 --> 1:21:53.640
<v Speaker 4>the time because it is important for young people to

1:21:53.880 --> 1:21:57.519
<v Speaker 4>know what happened so that it does not happen again.

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<v Speaker 4>We must move through the pain of the thing so

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<v Speaker 4>that we know how to keep it from coming back,

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<v Speaker 4>so that we are clear on our history, and so

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<v Speaker 4>for people who did not live the history know what

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<v Speaker 4>their lineage did and can teach themselves and their children

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<v Speaker 4>to do different things and make different choices. We must

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<v Speaker 4>tell the story of slavery. We must, and maybe we

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<v Speaker 4>want to tell it from a different angle. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that it's important to talk about It's important to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about the revolutions that happened on plantations. It's important

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<v Speaker 4>to tell this, to not just tell the story of bondage,

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<v Speaker 4>but to tell the story of the breaking freeze, to

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<v Speaker 4>tell the story of the moors, to tell the story

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<v Speaker 4>of the Sorry the oh. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 8>Shaking my head so hard because me and Fonte had

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<v Speaker 8>this debate all the time. I'm like, it's important.

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<v Speaker 4>The more is not the word that I wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 4>but the ah what do they call the people in

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<v Speaker 4>Jamaica and then Haiti who went off into the hills.

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<v Speaker 4>And I can't think of the name of the word.

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<v Speaker 4>It starts with the M. I can't think of it

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<v Speaker 4>right now. But see, that's why you have to keep tellings.

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<v Speaker 4>But there are other angles to enslavement and to slavery.

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<v Speaker 4>But also what we need to do, like with Jingle Jangle,

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<v Speaker 4>is have stories in that time period where you see

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<v Speaker 4>people who are not dealing with bondage, because bondage was

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<v Speaker 4>not what we sprang from. Bondage is not the only

1:23:34.760 --> 1:23:38.479
<v Speaker 4>thing that happened to us. So I am somebody who yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes I'm like, oh God, I don't know the slave story,

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<v Speaker 4>but only because it's coming from the same angle. We

1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:48.320
<v Speaker 4>have to look at other angles. But we cannot afford

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<v Speaker 4>to not tell this story. And if we thought we

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<v Speaker 4>could afford to not tell this story, January sixth should

1:23:54.760 --> 1:23:55.479
<v Speaker 4>have taught us.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>That's where I am making a gun.

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<v Speaker 8>Because I make this point constantly and people always argue

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<v Speaker 8>with me about it, and I'm like, I don't understand

1:24:16.680 --> 1:24:18.760
<v Speaker 8>twelve years a slave with not the same slave movie

1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:20.400
<v Speaker 8>as Roots twelve You of the slave was really cause

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<v Speaker 8>I'm kind of different, like I've never seen the Story

1:24:22.600 --> 1:24:24.559
<v Speaker 8>of a Free Man that guy kidnapp Like, stop acting

1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:26.160
<v Speaker 8>like that's the same. It just was.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm just runs maroons want to give me.

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you do you feel that you're now at the

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<v Speaker 1>place where you can.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that you can create productions and and and things

1:24:47.280 --> 1:24:51.080
<v Speaker 5>that you want to do without having without not having

1:24:51.120 --> 1:24:54.559
<v Speaker 5>to go through the Hollywood shuffle. It's like, are you

1:24:54.560 --> 1:24:58.120
<v Speaker 5>past the place where it's like, no, this particular company

1:24:58.120 --> 1:24:59.840
<v Speaker 5>calls and we want you to fly in to read

1:24:59.840 --> 1:25:02.200
<v Speaker 5>for this role in that I'm learning now through this

1:25:02.320 --> 1:25:06.880
<v Speaker 5>show that there's two different types of processes, Like you

1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:07.680
<v Speaker 5>get called.

1:25:07.439 --> 1:25:08.920
<v Speaker 1>In and you have to read and read and read

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<v Speaker 1>and wait for a call back.

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<v Speaker 5>And then there's people that are like, I won't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>There are times when I won't do that. There are

1:25:16.600 --> 1:25:19.479
<v Speaker 4>times when I won't do that because sometimes people want

1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:21.880
<v Speaker 4>to put you through hoops just to put you through hoops,

1:25:22.160 --> 1:25:25.240
<v Speaker 4>and there's too much tape for people to watch to

1:25:25.280 --> 1:25:29.599
<v Speaker 4>be putting folks through hoops for no reason of very

1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:31.960
<v Speaker 4>different roles, you know what I mean. It's not like

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<v Speaker 4>I've been doing the same role for twenty years and

1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:37.160
<v Speaker 4>you're like, but today we'd like you to be a magician,

1:25:37.200 --> 1:25:39.080
<v Speaker 4>and we've never seen you pull a rabbit out of

1:25:39.120 --> 1:25:42.400
<v Speaker 4>the hat. You know, there's a lot of tape for

1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:44.439
<v Speaker 4>people to look at. So there are some things where

1:25:44.479 --> 1:25:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm just like, no, no, I'm not going to do that.

1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:51.240
<v Speaker 4>There are other things that I would be willing to

1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:54.680
<v Speaker 4>and I do go in for. I mean, i'd like

1:25:54.760 --> 1:25:56.920
<v Speaker 4>to say that's over, but I don't know that it's

1:25:56.920 --> 1:25:59.600
<v Speaker 4>ever over, to be perfectly honest. There are things that

1:25:59.640 --> 1:26:02.320
<v Speaker 4>I get on offers for, and then there are things

1:26:02.320 --> 1:26:04.920
<v Speaker 4>that are like, we'd love for you to We love you,

1:26:04.920 --> 1:26:07.439
<v Speaker 4>You're amazing. We think, oh my god, you are our

1:26:07.479 --> 1:26:11.800
<v Speaker 4>favorite in this and we've got this amazing role. We'd

1:26:11.800 --> 1:26:17.880
<v Speaker 4>love for you to read what happened of Love? What

1:26:18.000 --> 1:26:18.599
<v Speaker 4>happened to that?

1:26:19.120 --> 1:26:20.720
<v Speaker 5>So we love for you to read. It's sort of

1:26:20.760 --> 1:26:24.679
<v Speaker 5>the deal breaker that, like man, it depends on.

1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:28.200
<v Speaker 4>The on the role, on the project, on how I

1:26:28.240 --> 1:26:30.720
<v Speaker 4>feel about it. It depends. There are a whole lot

1:26:30.800 --> 1:26:33.800
<v Speaker 4>of variables that that go into that.

1:26:35.280 --> 1:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>So is there a genre that you haven't stepped into yet,

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<v Speaker 1>like the horror genre or I don't. I don't know

1:26:42.200 --> 1:26:44.559
<v Speaker 1>if they call the Marvel world like science fiction or not.

1:26:44.640 --> 1:26:47.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, Like I don't know what the I'm

1:26:47.280 --> 1:26:48.599
<v Speaker 5>supposed to do a horror movie.

1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:53.120
<v Speaker 4>I was scheduled to get on a plane two weeks

1:26:53.120 --> 1:27:01.599
<v Speaker 4>after Quarantine it and I'm supposed to be in Romania,

1:27:02.040 --> 1:27:04.479
<v Speaker 4>but no, it was a really it was interesting and

1:27:04.560 --> 1:27:06.760
<v Speaker 4>different and potentially a lot of fun. And now I

1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:11.200
<v Speaker 4>think it's dead. I would love to I miss comedy.

1:27:12.280 --> 1:27:15.840
<v Speaker 4>I miss comedy, and I think maybe people have forgotten

1:27:15.960 --> 1:27:19.720
<v Speaker 4>that I can do that, so I sort of miss

1:27:19.800 --> 1:27:22.280
<v Speaker 4>that now. Sort of I really do miss do income

1:27:22.360 --> 1:27:28.280
<v Speaker 4>comedic things. I would love to do a cute, little

1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:33.120
<v Speaker 4>romantic comedy or just a regular comedy. I love sci

1:27:33.160 --> 1:27:35.800
<v Speaker 4>fi and I'm glad you mentioned that. And I've got

1:27:35.800 --> 1:27:39.160
<v Speaker 4>the rights to a couple of book series that I

1:27:39.160 --> 1:27:42.960
<v Speaker 4>am trying to make happen, And then I don't have

1:27:43.040 --> 1:27:45.960
<v Speaker 4>the right to a couple of series that I'm friends

1:27:46.000 --> 1:27:50.160
<v Speaker 4>with the authors, and I'm like, I'm we are talking

1:27:50.200 --> 1:27:53.679
<v Speaker 4>about moving forward with me as part of their package

1:27:55.080 --> 1:27:59.320
<v Speaker 4>without moving the rights, but to have me as a

1:27:59.320 --> 1:28:02.240
<v Speaker 4>producer and an actor on it, because I sort of

1:28:02.240 --> 1:28:04.880
<v Speaker 4>I love sci fi. I love us in the world

1:28:04.880 --> 1:28:09.599
<v Speaker 4>of sci fi. I love anything that goes beyond the

1:28:09.600 --> 1:28:15.240
<v Speaker 4>boundary that people have tried to give us, And so

1:28:15.320 --> 1:28:19.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm into those things because I'm not into being told

1:28:20.439 --> 1:28:24.759
<v Speaker 4>who I am allowed to be. So that is always

1:28:24.800 --> 1:28:27.479
<v Speaker 4>exciting to me when I can find something that is

1:28:27.560 --> 1:28:29.880
<v Speaker 4>outside of the space that we have sort of been

1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:33.360
<v Speaker 4>relegated to, because I always say, and people are like,

1:28:33.760 --> 1:28:36.479
<v Speaker 4>when I see a sci fi movie and people are,

1:28:36.680 --> 1:28:41.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, seventy five, one hundred years into the future

1:28:41.960 --> 1:28:44.160
<v Speaker 4>and you've got one black person.

1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:47.840
<v Speaker 8>You a lie, you a lie.

1:28:47.960 --> 1:28:52.280
<v Speaker 4>There is no way that black people and I mean

1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:56.240
<v Speaker 4>throughout the diaspora have been through the things that they

1:28:56.280 --> 1:28:59.200
<v Speaker 4>have been through and are here in twenty twenty one,

1:28:59.680 --> 1:29:02.640
<v Speaker 4>and you think we're not about to be here in

1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:03.720
<v Speaker 4>thirty twenty one.

1:29:04.200 --> 1:29:07.840
<v Speaker 8>If you here, we here, we started this time, we're here.

1:29:08.960 --> 1:29:13.720
<v Speaker 4>So that is always a story that I'm interested in

1:29:13.760 --> 1:29:15.720
<v Speaker 4>telling and putting us in a space where we have

1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:18.120
<v Speaker 4>been told that we do not belong or will not exist.

1:29:18.200 --> 1:29:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm always interested in that awesome, awesome, real quick.

1:29:22.680 --> 1:29:25.840
<v Speaker 5>My last question is about Jingle Jingle, Like, what was

1:29:25.880 --> 1:29:30.599
<v Speaker 5>the experience for you and doing that film? And well,

1:29:30.720 --> 1:29:34.799
<v Speaker 5>I know it's important for at least my nieces and nephews,

1:29:34.840 --> 1:29:36.760
<v Speaker 5>like they you know, they lost their minds over it

1:29:37.280 --> 1:29:37.880
<v Speaker 5>and seeing it.

1:29:39.320 --> 1:29:41.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but how did that project come to you?

1:29:42.360 --> 1:29:46.559
<v Speaker 4>David Talbert offered me that role, and it was so

1:29:46.640 --> 1:29:48.280
<v Speaker 4>funny because I think he was trying to get in

1:29:48.360 --> 1:29:50.960
<v Speaker 4>touch with me for like the better part of a year.

1:29:51.120 --> 1:29:55.960
<v Speaker 4>We just kept missing each other and I would have

1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:57.519
<v Speaker 4>missed out on something so great.

1:29:58.840 --> 1:30:01.479
<v Speaker 8>No happy, But it success for him too, by the way, Yes.

1:30:02.960 --> 1:30:08.439
<v Speaker 4>It's really great for him. And so we had a

1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Zoom meeting because I don't know where I was. I

1:30:11.200 --> 1:30:13.920
<v Speaker 4>think I was. I was in New Orleans shooting some

1:30:15.120 --> 1:30:19.040
<v Speaker 4>and so we met on Zoom and we talked and

1:30:19.040 --> 1:30:21.360
<v Speaker 4>then it was had to go up the flagpole and

1:30:21.400 --> 1:30:24.760
<v Speaker 4>then oh and while we were talking about it, I

1:30:24.800 --> 1:30:26.880
<v Speaker 4>had read a version of the script, which was an

1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:29.360
<v Speaker 4>fairly early version of the script at that point, and

1:30:29.400 --> 1:30:31.240
<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is cute and this is cool

1:30:31.280 --> 1:30:35.120
<v Speaker 4>and yeah, this is interesting. And then he was like,

1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:40.439
<v Speaker 4>and you know it's a musical and I was like, oh, yeah,

1:30:40.479 --> 1:30:43.559
<v Speaker 4>I had heard it was a musical. That's cool. Well

1:30:43.560 --> 1:30:48.679
<v Speaker 4>who's doing the music and he said Philip Lawrence, phil

1:30:49.320 --> 1:30:56.160
<v Speaker 4>and John Legend And I was like and sold. Because

1:30:56.520 --> 1:31:00.320
<v Speaker 4>everything came together in that package. You've got this Chris

1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:06.120
<v Speaker 4>story with us centralized and normal but also magical, and

1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:12.120
<v Speaker 4>now you've got these amazing musicians connected to it. I

1:31:12.400 --> 1:31:16.280
<v Speaker 4>love Phil Lawrence. I think he is magnificent. And I

1:31:16.320 --> 1:31:18.559
<v Speaker 4>also love Bruno Mars, whom you know that he writes

1:31:18.600 --> 1:31:22.519
<v Speaker 4>for a lot, but he as a singer musician is

1:31:22.640 --> 1:31:27.360
<v Speaker 4>also beyond Phil himself. And I've already told you how

1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:30.280
<v Speaker 4>much I love John Legend and his work and how

1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:35.160
<v Speaker 4>he is able to translate story to song and a

1:31:35.280 --> 1:31:38.240
<v Speaker 4>song for a story. So all of those things sort

1:31:38.280 --> 1:31:45.200
<v Speaker 4>of just worked together, and it was a really wonderful

1:31:45.280 --> 1:31:50.640
<v Speaker 4>thing to be a part of another project that centralizes

1:31:52.120 --> 1:31:58.639
<v Speaker 4>Black children and our wonder, our ability to feel wonder

1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:03.040
<v Speaker 4>the joy of Christmas in a way that wasn't showing lack.

1:32:04.439 --> 1:32:06.760
<v Speaker 4>You know, there was family dysfunction, but that's important to

1:32:06.800 --> 1:32:09.599
<v Speaker 4>show too because we all have it. But the story

1:32:09.720 --> 1:32:14.160
<v Speaker 4>wasn't about what these people couldn't have, couldn't get, couldn't whatever,

1:32:15.360 --> 1:32:20.559
<v Speaker 4>aside from love. And they rectified that. The story took

1:32:20.600 --> 1:32:24.519
<v Speaker 4>place in the Victorian Age with these amazing costumes by

1:32:24.560 --> 1:32:31.120
<v Speaker 4>Michael Wilkinson, who's Australia, randomly and phenomenal, and he mixed

1:32:31.160 --> 1:32:34.240
<v Speaker 4>all these African fabrics in with these Victorian costumes and

1:32:34.280 --> 1:32:37.240
<v Speaker 4>these amazing colors, and then the hair with Sharon Martin,

1:32:37.280 --> 1:32:39.479
<v Speaker 4>who I'd worked with on Half of The Yellow Sun,

1:32:40.200 --> 1:32:42.840
<v Speaker 4>and all the hair was natural and it wasn't like

1:32:43.280 --> 1:32:45.640
<v Speaker 4>there wasn't a commentary on it, because this is what

1:32:45.640 --> 1:32:47.880
<v Speaker 4>people's hair was supposed to look like, does look like,

1:32:48.120 --> 1:32:52.880
<v Speaker 4>looks like. So the amount of positive reinforcement within this

1:32:52.920 --> 1:32:55.360
<v Speaker 4>film without beating people over the head with it is

1:32:55.560 --> 1:33:00.599
<v Speaker 4>just fantastic. And then you know, again, to be able

1:33:00.640 --> 1:33:02.599
<v Speaker 4>to sing the songs that I was able to sing

1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:06.880
<v Speaker 4>was delicious. And I'll say this because we were talking

1:33:06.880 --> 1:33:09.800
<v Speaker 4>about make it work and it's not a way that

1:33:09.840 --> 1:33:12.960
<v Speaker 4>people have heard me sing before, and that for me

1:33:13.280 --> 1:33:16.360
<v Speaker 4>was quite the gift because I love to access that

1:33:16.520 --> 1:33:19.519
<v Speaker 4>part of my voice. And I think usually when people

1:33:19.560 --> 1:33:22.080
<v Speaker 4>are thinking of me, they're thinking of me as a soprano,

1:33:22.520 --> 1:33:26.599
<v Speaker 4>because that's you know, I am a soprano. However, I'm

1:33:26.640 --> 1:33:33.120
<v Speaker 4>also that you know, I'm also that gritty. I don't know,

1:33:34.400 --> 1:33:37.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not Fantasia, so I'm not I haven't

1:33:37.280 --> 1:33:39.280
<v Speaker 4>gone there yet. I think when I do that, that's

1:33:39.320 --> 1:33:44.559
<v Speaker 4>the farewell concert. That'll be the last note, but I

1:33:44.600 --> 1:33:47.240
<v Speaker 4>also live in the deeper register of my voice and

1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:52.040
<v Speaker 4>I and I really enjoy being there. So there was

1:33:52.080 --> 1:33:54.920
<v Speaker 4>an aspect of my voice that I don't think I

1:33:54.960 --> 1:33:58.000
<v Speaker 4>had gotten to express before, and that to me was

1:33:58.400 --> 1:34:02.719
<v Speaker 4>really joyous to be able to do so the whole thing.

1:34:03.360 --> 1:34:05.439
<v Speaker 4>And I got to work with my Felicia Machad, who

1:34:05.520 --> 1:34:09.519
<v Speaker 4>I just love, love love. I got to see Madeline

1:34:09.640 --> 1:34:13.360
<v Speaker 4>come into being, which is always something that's amazing when

1:34:13.400 --> 1:34:18.439
<v Speaker 4>you see a little kid come into to being. Kieran Dyer,

1:34:18.560 --> 1:34:23.240
<v Speaker 4>who played Edison, who was a scream, was also magnificent

1:34:23.840 --> 1:34:28.719
<v Speaker 4>and the lovely and very gentle Forrest Whitaker, so there's

1:34:29.000 --> 1:34:31.320
<v Speaker 4>there was nothing to not lack about it.

1:34:31.360 --> 1:34:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Really wow. Thank you. You know.

1:34:36.280 --> 1:34:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Our episodes can go on forever, but you know we

1:34:40.000 --> 1:34:40.800
<v Speaker 5>gottap up.

1:34:41.600 --> 1:34:43.439
<v Speaker 1>We have to wrap up. We really thank you.

1:34:44.160 --> 1:34:47.080
<v Speaker 4>I thank you because I have embarrassed myself in front

1:34:47.080 --> 1:34:53.880
<v Speaker 4>of you at least twice. I have shamed myself at

1:34:53.920 --> 1:34:59.479
<v Speaker 4>least the first time you were DJing at Hammi party.

1:35:00.120 --> 1:35:01.799
<v Speaker 2>I do this, yeah.

1:35:03.200 --> 1:35:06.720
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, in l a Okay, I.

1:35:06.680 --> 1:35:09.599
<v Speaker 4>Can't remember what hotel it was, but anyway, and.

1:35:09.479 --> 1:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>You were going off the year's eve.

1:35:11.760 --> 1:35:13.800
<v Speaker 4>No, no, the Emmys. The Emmys was a couple of

1:35:13.840 --> 1:35:18.760
<v Speaker 4>years ago, and Kirk was playing the hell out of

1:35:18.800 --> 1:35:21.000
<v Speaker 4>this guitar. I mean when I say he was playing

1:35:21.040 --> 1:35:23.920
<v Speaker 4>the hell out of this guitar. So he was playing it,

1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:26.000
<v Speaker 4>and he lifted it over this girl's head, and I

1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:28.960
<v Speaker 4>think she was talking, and I don't think he appreciated

1:35:29.000 --> 1:35:31.840
<v Speaker 4>that at the time. So he lifted it over her

1:35:31.960 --> 1:35:36.559
<v Speaker 4>head and she was talking to her friend, and and

1:35:36.600 --> 1:35:38.760
<v Speaker 4>the and the guitar came over her head. And he's

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<v Speaker 4>playing the guitar in front of this girl as if

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<v Speaker 4>she was playing it and got all of her attention

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<v Speaker 4>and all of our attention. And my mouth is open

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<v Speaker 4>and my eyes are wide, and I'm like, I can

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<v Speaker 4>what's happening right here, right now? This is amazing. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I started you all were going on a break.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was her Amazon. I remember this.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like you root for the hotel being crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was a little fanned out right. I was amped

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<v Speaker 4>by the music, and I was feeling very fanny. And

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<v Speaker 4>I was walking and talking and not paying attention, but

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<v Speaker 4>like running my mouth about how fantastic everything was. And

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember who stopped me, but I was I

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<v Speaker 4>was being talked to. I wasn't talking at somebody's back

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<v Speaker 4>or anything. I wasn't being a crazy person. But I

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<v Speaker 4>was talking and running my mouth and I had to

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<v Speaker 4>be stopped, and I was like, what, what's happening? And

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't occur to me that you all were going

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<v Speaker 4>into your dressing Oh really?

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<v Speaker 9>And I was just walking and talking and like heading

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<v Speaker 9>into this dressing room with y'all, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was moretrified, and I was like, these people are going

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<v Speaker 4>to think I'm insane and they are never going to

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<v Speaker 4>speak to me again. And it has lived with me

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<v Speaker 4>for years. So thank you for erasing that, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>men are blacking it from your memory of.

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<v Speaker 1>All the roots. We definitely welcome you into our dressing room.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm just.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, thank you so much for doing this for us,

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<v Speaker 5>and thank you for you know, we appreciate your your

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<v Speaker 5>talent and and sharing your story with us, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know we're proud of you. Thank you for coming on

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<v Speaker 5>the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so very much. It was really lovely speaking

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<v Speaker 4>with all of you and getting to know you, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, outside of what you see of the person,

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<v Speaker 4>but really getting to see you the person has been

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<v Speaker 4>a gift all of you and and Bill, I forgive you.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, I'm still canceled, but thank you or viaf

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<v Speaker 5>like you and Sugar Stephen, and we have.

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<v Speaker 1>The same birthday. Nice job.

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<v Speaker 7>Wow that's my wife's birthday. You got you and my

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<v Speaker 7>wife same birthday. And she's left handed as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice wow.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway, anything else, Steve, Nope, just the birthday thing. Thanks, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>anyway where we have a birthday burger group down there,

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<v Speaker 5>and and fontigolo and uncanceled uh Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh this quest left signing off for QLs.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you on the next go round.

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