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Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 3: This is Sugar Steve from Questlove Supreme. This March, we're

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Speaker 3: celebrating women's history at QLs, something that we've done for years.

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Speaker 3: Back in March of twenty twenty one, we spoke to

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Speaker 3: Anika Noni Rose about her acting, singing and voice work.

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Speaker 3: She discussed growing up in Connecticut, working on Dream Girls,

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Speaker 3: and landing a life changing audition for Disney's The Princess

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Speaker 3: and the Frog. This is a powerful and sincere conversation

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Speaker 3: that is worthy of hearing, and I hope you enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know you say it was.

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Speaker 2: Hi Ceo in the corn?

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Speaker 4: What was it? That's funny. I thought I was visible

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Speaker 4: for about six minutes and I was like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 4: just a blank square.

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Speaker 5: So we're just talking about the salt and pepper Lifetime,

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Speaker 5: The salt Lifetime.

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Speaker 6: Deep Salt Pepper, Deep Salt Pepper.

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Speaker 2: Did you watch it yet?

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Speaker 1: Proc Come on, brother, I was on time for that thing.

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Speaker 1: Man's thirty seconds.

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Speaker 2: Thirty seconds?

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Speaker 7: Okay, the salt and pepper story, it was, I mean,

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Speaker 7: it was cool for Lifetime. I thought they cast salt,

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Speaker 7: real good pepper. I wasn't really too convinced on Pepper.

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Speaker 7: I really was not convinced with Tretch. I really liked

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Speaker 7: the way they cast Herbie love Bug and the twin

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Speaker 7: although it hasn't really been documented that Herbie love Bug

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Speaker 7: has a twin brother does have a he has a brother.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's his twin brother, but Herbie,

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Speaker 7: Herbie does have a brother. It looked like it was

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Speaker 7: the lookalike was in his uh it was in the

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Speaker 7: he was in the shoot video. I want to say

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Speaker 7: his brother is was in the shoot video. I can't

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Speaker 7: remember which scene, but anyway, Yeah, I mean it was

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Speaker 7: a little too long. I felt like it probably could

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Speaker 7: have been like two hours. I mean, you know, if

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Speaker 7: it was Jackson, it was hours long.

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Speaker 1: It was three hours.

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Speaker 7: And mind you, let's contrast that with the Jackson's story

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Speaker 7: being four hours.

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Speaker 8: So that was multiple movie nights.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, the jack Nat was five yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 6: So did you learn anything about salt and pepper at all?

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Speaker 6: Not that you didn't know, but just anything.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know that, uh, pepper was not pepper. Salt

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Speaker 7: had to eating disorder. They kind of they kind of

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Speaker 7: hinted it that, you know what I'm saying that was

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Speaker 7: the new information. But yeah, that was it, and you

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Speaker 7: know it was I watched that ship on a Sunday

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Speaker 7: afternoon of my couched Nigga.

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Speaker 8: Hey man, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, this is Quest Love Supreme and uh I'm

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Speaker 5: yours quest though. That was that was our cold open

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Speaker 5: take a little hot take on the Salt and Pepper

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Speaker 5: Lifetime movie.

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Speaker 8: Am as this episode airs in women's history mo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. Anyway, so we have a sugar Steve

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Speaker 1: with us.

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Speaker 5: I have, we have unpaid bill and we have Laya

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Speaker 5: with us as well. Our Esteem guest today. Great, thanks

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Speaker 5: for asking, but oh okay, how you doing Steve?

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 2: Okay, nice weather. I like I like this sweater.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a champion hoodie. It's not a sweater.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well they can't see you on the on on.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's a very expensive sweater, Steve. Can I

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Speaker 5: please introduce the guest anyway? Our steam guest today is

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Speaker 5: an amazing, versatile, award winning actress who stage credits range

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Speaker 5: from Carl Jones to Raising his Sun to Eli's Coming

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Speaker 5: Carolina Change, which she won a Tony Award, and her

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Speaker 5: TV credits, so many Ladies Number one Detective Agency. She

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Speaker 5: played Wendy Carr, one of my favorite TV shows. I

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Speaker 5: missed The Good Wife so much, Like that's one of

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Speaker 5: my favorite shows ever, and I wish we're still here,

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Speaker 5: even though you know, the the not the reboot, but

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Speaker 5: a good fight is sort of okay, you know, but anyway,

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Speaker 5: we also can't forget her role as a jukebox character

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Speaker 5: on everyone's favorite guilty Pleasure Power, not to mention Little

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Speaker 5: Fires Everywhere. She also did The Quad and had a

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Speaker 5: cool bucket list check as a voice on The Simpsons. Uh,

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Speaker 5: not to mention her movie credits are just his own point.

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Speaker 5: This past Christmas, she started in Netflix's amazing jingle Jangle

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Speaker 5: The Christmas Journey, which hopefully will last for years and

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Speaker 5: decades and decades and decades.

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Speaker 8: Christmas story.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, my all, my niece's nephews enjoyed it. Not

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Speaker 5: to mention, there's dream Girls for colored girls only, and

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Speaker 5: Black Princess and the historical Princess and the Frog for Disney. Incidentally,

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Speaker 5: she is the youngest inductee dever be honored as a

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Speaker 5: Disney legend. I want to know what a Disney legend

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Speaker 5: is and do I qualify for my four seconds? Now

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Speaker 5: I'm playing Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to our show.

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Speaker 5: Oh my fellow academy a member. It's it's like a

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Speaker 5: secret society that only people know. Anyway, Welcome to Coest

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Speaker 5: Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Anika Noni Rose, thank you, thank you for coming.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to ask, how how have you made out

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Speaker 5: in the past year. You know this, this this year

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Speaker 5: has been difficult on a lot of people, and it's

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Speaker 5: been an adjustment for artists in all mediums like and

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Speaker 5: anyone in the arts is it's been an adjustment. So

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Speaker 5: how have you been adjusting to the past year or so?

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Speaker 4: I the past year was rough. It was it was

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Speaker 4: a rough year, you know, and then you sort of

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Speaker 4: feel funny even saying that, because it's been rough for everybody,

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Speaker 4: like heavy for everybody in lieu of work. I've been

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Speaker 4: really lucky because I'm a voiceover artist. So even when

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Speaker 4: I can still do voiceover work. So that's a blessing,

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Speaker 4: you know, to be able to do that. And I've

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Speaker 4: I've been I've been pretty lucky in that respect, you know. Personally,

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Speaker 4: it's taken some adjusting too. It's been wild. It's been

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Speaker 4: a frightening year. It's been a year full of really

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Speaker 4: intense anger. If there is an emotion on the emotional scale,

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Speaker 4: I don't think that we've been saved from it this year.

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Speaker 4: I think we've done that whole circle. So, you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm grateful to be healthy, especially as an asthmatic. I'm

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Speaker 4: very grateful to be healthy. I'm grateful that my family

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Speaker 4: To be perfectly honest.

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Speaker 2: No, we welcome that honesty.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm grateful for the possibility of change and

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Speaker 4: we'll see, you know, how just how much people are

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Speaker 4: able to do but you know, January twentieth, when everybody

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Speaker 4: So I was really I felt like it felt like

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Speaker 7: That is a very great metaphor. We've all been wearing

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Speaker 8: West trainers.

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Speaker 1: Waist trains and on Bill and the face like, I

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Speaker 5: You know, I admire you for, you know, the transparency

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Speaker 5: and the honest honesty about it because you know this

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Speaker 1: Like three's going through divorces?

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Speaker 4: It's something that I've always been doing and that I

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Speaker 5: Can I has what experience does that intail? I took

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Speaker 4: what type of voiceover you're doing. Like if you're doing

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Speaker 4: because your voice is because you know you are questlove.

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Speaker 4: They just want to hear your voice. So there's some

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Speaker 5: though like a thing.

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Speaker 1: Think a lot of times.

442
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 5: Stage actors get not dismissed, but I mean there's really

443
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 5: no glamour or glory in it so much, you know,

444
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 5: like the baccolades that a movie actor or a television

445
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 5: actor would get this hardly, you know, extended to the

446
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 5: Broadway world, and at that there's so much pressure because

447
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 5: you kind of have to deliver out the park every night,

448
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 5: Like there's no such thing as a bad night or

449
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 5: one false newe you know, especially with musicals, Like how

450
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 5: hard is it to preserve your like and basically to

451
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 5: hit it out the park every night when you're on stage,

452
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 5: Like how much pressure is that?

453
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: Musicals are particularly exhausting, but it's also life giving, Like

454
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: you leave the stage, you finish your show. For me,

455
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: it takes hours for me to become tired. I am

456
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 4: so high when I leave the stage, you know, like

457
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 4: my energy is moving. And I get home, I make

458
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 4: something to eat, and I talk on the phone or

459
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 4: read something. I'm up for hours. It takes me hours

460
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 4: to fall asleep because of the energy coursing through my body.

461
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 4: But it's exhausting, and it takes an extraordinary amount of discipline,

462
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 4: which I don't I don't know that people who haven't

463
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: done it realize that, which is why it sometimes conquers

464
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: people who haven't done it and are like, yeah, let's

465
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: do that, and then they're like, oh my god, it's

466
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 4: show number four. I'm about to die because it's a

467
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 4: murderer like that if you don't know how to pace

468
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 4: yourself for it. So depending on what you're doing, Like

469
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: for me, if I'm doing a musical, I want nine

470
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 4: hours of sleep period. I don't want to talk to

471
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: people about it.

472
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't don't call me in no.

473
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,239
Speaker 4: Single digit am. No, I'm not trying to get up

474
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 4: to do nothing with you. No, we're not going one

475
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 4: out at night because I have to make sure that

476
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 4: somebody one hundred and fifty dollars or however much they

477
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 4: spent is worthwhile when they come to that stage. And

478
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 4: it's that's my job. And I take too much pride

479
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 4: in what I do to ruin it by being out

480
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 4: at a bar or out doing whatever. And look, some

481
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 4: people can do that. I can't. I'm speaking about it.

482
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: The show is done, and no, I may go.

483
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 4: Out to get something to eat, but what you will

484
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: not see me do is talk.

485
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: Done.

486
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: I'll be at a restaurant eating, But if I'm talking

487
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 4: to somebody, I'm talking in their ear, like I'm in

488
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: their ear right here, real quiet, because you're going to

489
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 4: I'm gonna lose my voice trying to speak over the

490
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: din of a restaurant. You stress your voice so badly

491
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 4: that the next day your voice is tired, not from

492
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: the show you did, from the talking you did after.

493
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: So I am really I go home most of the time,

494
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 4: and I drink an extraordinary amount of water. I probably

495
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: drink about two leaders of water a day, no less,

496
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: to make sure everything is moving. I eat it super

497
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 4: properly and well, because I can't afford to be sick

498
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 4: at all.

499
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 8: You're vegan, no dairy.

500
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: I am not vegan. I would like to be that person,

501
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 4: but that's where my discipline doesn't quite get that far.

502
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: I need a piece of meat, you know, and not

503
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: every day, but I need some meat or I'm cranky

504
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: and tired. But I do you know, I cut back

505
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: on I don't eat a whole lot of fried stuff.

506
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 4: I don't eat a whole lot of spicy stuff. I

507
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 4: don't eat a whole lot of heavy, heavy stuff. Why

508
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: because those are the things that get on your body

509
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: and say, ooh you've had fun, you ate really well,

510
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: how about some reflux for tomorrow. So those are all

511
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: things that I'm thinking about when I'm performing and somebody

512
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 4: is going to be like, Oh, you don't have to

513
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: do all that. I never had to do all it.

514
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 4: I do this, I do that. That's great for them,

515
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: and I wish I was that person. But for me,

516
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: it involves a whole lot of discipline, and I'm not

517
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 4: bitter about it because it's the thing that I love

518
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: to do, so it always feels worth it.

519
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 5: That's weird to hear because the time that I was

520
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 5: involved with the cast of Faila, they would go super hard,

521
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 5: like every.

522
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: Night, like that's like a thing and a star thing.

523
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 6: I think like you get to a certain age, you

524
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 6: can't party that hard when you're like, you know, a

525
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 6: lot of the ensemble kids don't feel like they need

526
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 6: to save the voice as much as the word stopped

527
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 6: you right there.

528
00:29:51,640 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: Bill Present said something that I'm a now I can

529
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: understand why you wouldn't have to you about to be muted.

530
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: Canceled.

531
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: I have never This has always been the way that

532
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: I approached my job. It's my job and I and

533
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: you know, FELA was an amazing show with amazing artists

534
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 4: in it. Also a dance heavy show. I don't think

535
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 4: it was as vocally heavy as it was dance heavy,

536
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 4: and it's a different type of singing because it's also

537
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 4: choral singing. So everybody singing except for uh, what was

538
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: his name, Sasha Sar who was Chef's Kiss magnificent. So

539
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 4: it's choral singing, so you have a whole lot of

540
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: voices that can fill that thing out. And if and

541
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: again let me make this clear, no shade whatsoever. But

542
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: if one choral person is singing at level six or

543
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: seven on a Tuesday night, the audience isn't going to

544
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: know that one choral person is singing at six or

545
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: seven unless that person has a solo. So when you're

546
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: in a show that you can do choral work, I

547
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: think you have a little more space you can lean

548
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: on that day and what you said the person that

549
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: is next to you in a different way. But if

550
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: Sar would go out drinking every single night, Sar, I'm

551
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: gonna have a different show the next day, you know

552
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: what I mean? And he was, oh god, they were

553
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: magnificent in that show.

554
00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: Wait, speaking of Bill good, well, now he's canceled build

555
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 5: instead of Yeah, wait a minute, because Ninka, I was

556
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 5: looking on your your credits and I saw Hamilton there,

557
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 5: explain this to me when when was your run with this?

558
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: Because I didn't do a run, I helped workshop Hamilton.

559
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 5: Ah, So I did the original table like the the.

560
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: Last not the last workshop, but the second to last

561
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: workshop to Hamilton. We did a workshop up at Vassar

562
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: at New York Station Film, which was amazing, and then

563
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 4: I did A Raisin in the Sun. And I couldn't

564
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: really do anything while I was doing A Raisin in

565
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: the Sun because it was a three hour tour and

566
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: I was it was just a really busy and heavy

567
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: show and dramatic, and I didn't have a lot of

568
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: space to do other things while that was happening. They

569
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: were still doing work another workshop for it after that,

570
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: and they got the lovely Renee Goldsbery and she ended

571
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: up being blessed with the role. But that's how those

572
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: things happened, you know what I mean. Like sometimes sometimes.

573
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: Bill, I was I was not at that.

574
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 6: I thought you were going to bring up being on

575
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 6: the Sesame Street float, which is what you and Anica

576
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 6: have in common other than many other things.

577
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 5: No, but I mean she when I read that she

578
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 5: was in the initial Hamilton thing, I was like, wait

579
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: a minute, Bill, that's that's your whole world I did.

580
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 6: I didn't know that I wasn't. I wasn't there during that,

581
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 6: but I know that Anica was the first Angelica many

582
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 6: many moons ago.

583
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, okay.

584
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: I was just confused because when I read that, I

585
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, I could have.

586
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 6: Sworn it was to make a record a mirror, and

587
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 6: she was not there when we made that record.

588
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I was like, wait, was I

589
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: in ruined?

590
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 4: It was so crazy? Is that Renee and I actually

591
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: did the good fun together? And she is so amazing

592
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 4: and beautiful and fantastic. And to watch her, you know,

593
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: step up there and get that Tony and give that

594
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 4: beautiful speech afterwards. I was so happy for her because

595
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: she is such a good person as well as being

596
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 4: you know, stupendously talented and not too painful on the eye.

597
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 4: She's she's a lovely human being. So, you know, sometimes

598
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: you lose out on a role as somebody, and with

599
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: no rationality at all, you're sitting at home mad at

600
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 4: the person. It has nothing to do with that person

601
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: and you, but you have a little mad you home,

602
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 4: sending them to no mad cussing under your breath. But

603
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: she is somebody for whom you really can't begrudge anything.

604
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 4: She's so good at what she does. She's such a

605
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: lo person. She is, She's really a blessing. So I

606
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: was really really happy for her. Does that mean I

607
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: was not sad that I didn't get to do it now,

608
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 4: But it does mean I had a great time when

609
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 4: I did do it, and I was happy that the

610
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: person who ended up getting to do it was somebody

611
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: really beautifully fitted to what it was.

612
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 5: Oh nice, I mean you wanted Tony previously for Carolina Cheams.

613
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 5: What was that like to I believe that that world

614
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 5: is very not unpenetrable, but just very hard to get

615
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 5: a seat at the table, just based on my limited

616
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 5: experience of being in that world, So I mean, what

617
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 5: did it feel like to get the acknowledgment?

618
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 4: At least it was one of the most amazing moments

619
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: of my career because it was the last thing that

620
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: I expected. I just had no idea that that was

621
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 4: what was going on to come from that role. And

622
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: even when at the time people were like, oh, we're

623
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: coming to see your show, I was like, well, it's

624
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 4: not really my show. I come in at this point

625
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: in time, but come to see the show, because the

626
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: show is amazing and everybody was phenomenal in it. I

627
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: was stunned when I got nominated and then when I won,

628
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: I I if you ever get to see that video,

629
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 4: Like my head dropped, Like they said my name, they

630
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: said my first name. I didn't even hear my middle name.

631
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: My head went down. And then I was just focused

632
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 4: on not tripping.

633
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: As I got to the stage, Everyone's like, don't fall,

634
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: don't fall.

635
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 6: There's a lot of wires.

636
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 1: Don't tell you that on the heel.

637
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: And you haven't eaten for six hours freezing because yeah,

638
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: and you're not trying to drink nothing because your dress

639
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: is fitted and you're not trying to have come up

640
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: put a pinch, so all those things. But I did

641
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 4: have a lunar bar in my purse. Oh I always

642
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: have a snack. I'm the one who a snack because

643
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 4: otherwise I'm cranky.

644
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: So you established that you're angry, like, but.

645
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 10: My friend my friends like, NA, we're just going to

646
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 10: carry some snacks for you because you don't really know

647
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 10: how to act after a certain impoortant time.

648
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, but I can't even deny that.

649
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 4: So I had snacks. But you know what was amazing

650
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: to me was that it was a collection of my

651
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: peers who said, you, you did something that stands out

652
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: that is worthy of recognition. And I looked out into

653
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: Radio City Music Hall and the people in the balcony.

654
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: I could see them barely, but I could see them

655
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: like they stood, and I could hear. At some point

656
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 4: my hearing came back, like I got to the stage

657
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: and then I could hear this wave of applause and

658
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: I could see the Oh, the woman who wrote the music,

659
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 4: Jantia Sorri, was climbing over somebody else to grab them.

660
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 4: While it was happening, my brother was in the audience,

661
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 4: my grandmother was there, and both of my parents, and

662
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: I think I was so very moved and full, and

663
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: I think that you know those times when you just

664
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: have no idea, like I didn't even know when nominations

665
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: came out, and I try not to know because I

666
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: feel like it's stress. Live. I don't need that stress.

667
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 4: You know, it's so rare that we're in a position

668
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 4: where we were nominated for something and then go ahead

669
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 4: and get it. That's something else, So I don't need

670
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 4: to be thinking about oh, April second is blah blah.

671
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 4: That's stress you don't need, so I just go on

672
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: about my life. But I had zero idea that that

673
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 4: was going to happen. And it was phenomenal. It was phenomenal,

674
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 4: that feeling, and it led to me being in Dreamgirls

675
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: because Bill Condon saw Carolina change and then he came

676
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 4: back and saw me in Pearly and that's how I

677
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: got to audition for Dreamgirls.

678
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 8: Like it was an audition, the audition it was.

679
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 4: It was interesting because I was such a knucklehead and

680
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: I was so new. They had asked me to audition,

681
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: and I said, well, you know, I'm actually supposed to

682
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: perform at the Library of Congress and I told him

683
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 4: that I would and I can't pull out of that

684
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: because you know, it's a performance that I said I

685
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: would do, and so let me know when you have

686
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: a second round of auditions. That could have gone so wrong.

687
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: So they did. They did let me know, and they

688
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 4: were like, but now we're in Los Angeles, and I said, well,

689
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: I'm guess I'm gonna fly myself to Los Angeles. And

690
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: that's not something that I do regularly. I really generally

691
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: feel like if somebody really really wants you in something,

692
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: a company they'll send for you. Yeah, but if you

693
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: really really really want something and you have to decide

694
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: what that thing is, then then bring yourself and go

695
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 4: get it. And my point of view was I'm coming

696
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: to get this, So I flew myself out. I did

697
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: an audition. It was a great audition. It was months

698
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: before I heard from them, like it must have been

699
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: three months, I think it was. And then they wanted

700
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 4: me to come to a callback and they flew me

701
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 4: out for the callback and there was a limo that

702
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 4: met me at the airport.

703
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 8: And I was like, what, I didn't notice really happy

704
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 8: by this time? Where were they in the casting process?

705
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 8: Like had some people been casting and some hadn't, or

706
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 8: like where were they by the time you got I wish.

707
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: That I could tell you, But you know what I

708
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: was concerned about myself, Eddie Murphy, you know already in there.

709
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: I think they were already there from the beginning, but

710
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 4: we weren't auditioning with them, and they were still trying

711
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 4: to figure out who the girls were going to be together,

712
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: you know. And there are so many reasons why I

713
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 4: may not have gotten that job. I'm short, I am

714
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 4: five two and a half Beyonce, I think it's five six.

715
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 4: Jennifer is five and nine. You might not have seen

716
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 4: me on screen, so it was you know, it was

717
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: me and five and literally five and a half inch

718
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 4: heels through that entire movie, so that we could all

719
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 4: be on screen together. And those are some of the

720
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: things that people don't know happened. When you're casting something.

721
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 4: You got the Lollipop.

722
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: Guild me.

723
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 4: Say so. Anyway, so I went, they flew me out,

724
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: and I auditioned again, and I sang ain't no party

725
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: live and with no music, and and then it was

726
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 4: like another three months and and I was.

727
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 7: Like, well, you know, you start three months waiting, like

728
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 7: how are you supporting yoursel are you still working as

729
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 7: an actress like making money and stuff?

730
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: You know what, I've been very lucky that I've never

731
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: done anything else with this. I've never waited at a table.

732
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: I've only done this.

733
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 8: Straight from school.

734
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 4: And I'm grateful for that because I've seen people at restaurants,

735
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 4: you know, people come in getting real entitled about their medium,

736
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: well Hamburgers. So I'm grateful for that. And I have

737
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: a lot of respect for the people who can deal

738
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 4: with the public feeling special about their Hairburger. So I've

739
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,280
Speaker 4: never had to do anything else, but I have been broke,

740
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 4: and at that time, I really wasn't having much money

741
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 4: flow coming in because I didn't have a stage job

742
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: in that moment, and I remember, but I still had

743
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: to get my hair done because your hair is your face,

744
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: so you have an audition, your hair need to be right.

745
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 4: So I was getting my hair done. I was under

746
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: a hair dryer and my phone rang and my agent

747
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 4: was trying to talk to me, and I was like,

748
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: what I can't hear, I can't.

749
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 8: You gotta be calling you.

750
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: So I got out from under the dryer and called

751
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 4: this person back and they told me that I had

752
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: gotten the role. And I was sitting in the hair hairdresser,

753
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: tears running down my face because I wanted it so

754
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 4: badly and I felt like it was for me, like

755
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: I felt it in that moment. Sometimes you're wrong, though,

756
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: and I was so thrilled that this was the next

757
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: thing that I was going to do because I knew

758
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: that music and I knew that show really well. And

759
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: then Anthony Manguela, who did the Number one Ladies Detective Agency,

760
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: saw me and Dreamgirls called Bill Condon to ask what

761
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 4: kind of person I was, and that's how I got

762
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: the audition for Number one Ladies. So everything is sort

763
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 4: of connected.

764
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: I see, I want to know. I know that you

765
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 2: worked with the great Debbie Allen.

766
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 5: She's one of our bucket list hopefuls for this show.

767
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: What was it like working under her direction? For Kat

768
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: on a high ten roof? First it was this all

769
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: black version of it, which is unusual.

770
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: Like, what was it like? And also with James L.

771
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: Jones was in that book, right, Yes he was.

772
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: That was my big daddy, and Felicia.

773
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Was, Yeah it was.

774
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: It was great working with her because you're working with

775
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: somebody who knows the stage like the back of her hand.

776
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: You're working with someone who has no pretense. You're working

777
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 4: with someone who will occasionally pull your hair to make

778
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: a point. And I love her. I love her deeply.

779
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 4: And the fact that she came to me with that

780
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 4: role was I mean, it's something I never thought I

781
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: would do, not because I didn't think I was able

782
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 4: to do it. I just never thought that I would

783
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: be considered for that role. I mean, you're talking about

784
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: a sacred cow Tennessee Williams, who would have ever thought

785
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 4: a black Maggie would grace a stage?

786
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: And that's the role Elizabeth Taylor played.

787
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: Correct.

788
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: Yes, And I loved that play and I loved those words,

789
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 4: and I loved that woman, Maggie. She's an amazing and

790
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 4: tortured soul. And Debbie said, you know, would you like

791
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: to do this? And I said absolutely. And I will

792
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 4: really be grateful to her forever for giving me that

793
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: opportunity to stretch myself like that and to be an adult,

794
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 4: like a full blonde woman on stage, which until that

795
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: point I had not really done. I was playing kids

796
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 4: most of the time and really young people, and this

797
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: was somebody who all the youth had been sort of

798
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 4: sucked out of her. She was and she was a woman,

799
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 4: and she traveled the world in womanhood before she was

800
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: even a woman. So this was something that it was

801
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 4: perfect in my life space because I had known disappointment

802
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 4: at that point in time, and I had known pain, hurt,

803
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 4: and Debbie knew, she knew that peace, and she knew

804
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 4: that stage, and she just she just set me free

805
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 4: in that space. I and I'm really, really to this

806
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: day very grateful for her. And she's somebody you can

807
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: laugh with but also who has done her homework and

808
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 4: you know that you can have an in depth and

809
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 4: fruitful conversation about the art of it with her.

810
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 7: So okay, one question I had for you, Anita, I

811
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 7: was specifically concerning your time at FAM.

812
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: You it's not too many, we won't get.

813
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 7: Too many HBCU grads, you know, to show I'm as

814
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 7: I graduated North Calina Central, and yeah, FAM, he was

815
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 7: actually one of my schools. I was, you know, I

816
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 7: got like a seventy two, but I wasn't going all

817
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 7: the way to down Florida. But yeah, oh yeah, that's right. Yeah,

818
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 7: like you too, So yeah, just tell us about that time,

819
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 7: you know, going to FAM, and just what that experience

820
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 7: was like for you and how you think that influenced

821
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 7: your artistry.

822
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to go to an HBCU. I didn't

823
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 4: know which one I was going to, but I knew

824
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: I wanted to go, and I had already been accepted

825
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: at a couple of other schools that were, you know,

826
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: traditional schools. But I had family who went to Howard,

827
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: I had family who went to Hampton, I had family

828
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 4: who went to FAM, and so I was familiar with

829
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: these schools and I don't know. I wanted to go

830
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 4: someplace that was small enough to build a program and

831
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: have individualized attention if you needed it. That was important

832
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 4: to me because say, Howard Grade School, fantastic school, huge, so.

833
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 8: That much smaller.

834
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 4: It's the department is much smaller.

835
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 8: Oh, the department.

836
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: The department is much And I was coming from Connecticut,

837
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: and that's another reason why I wanted to have a

838
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: an HBCU experience, because that wasn't my growing up experience.

839
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 4: Like in my particular neighborhood, I was one of two

840
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 4: black folks and I don't know if the other person

841
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 4: knew that they were wanting.

842
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 5: To two.

843
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: Connect Bloomfield.

844
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: Oh, beautiful town, gorgeous town and a great growing up

845
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: and I'm happy to have had it. But it was

846
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: important to me to have that experience. And I, you know,

847
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 4: and I grew up in a family who made it.

848
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 4: You know. I was very clear about who I was

849
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 4: and where I came from and what my history was.

850
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: I didn't know if I would ever I don't think

851
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 4: I would ever have the opportunity again after this time

852
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 4: to be surrounded by my own culture. So that was

853
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 4: important to me to have that experience, and it was.

854
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: I think it was a good experience. It was a

855
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: good place to be on stage. I studied theater, so

856
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: I didn't study acting necessarily specifically. I studied theater so

857
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 4: that meant I was acting. If I wasn't acting, I

858
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: was doing costuming or directing or fighting. Yeah, I was

859
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 4: doing everything. And I think that that was a gift

860
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: to me as an actor because it made it very

861
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: clear that there are a lot of other things happening

862
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 4: around you that make the thing work. It ain't you.

863
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 4: You know, you you are the reason the one thing

864
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: that you're doing is happening. But you can't just do that,

865
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so I think it

866
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: made me very appreciative of everything that happened all around me.

867
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 4: And and the band was exquisite U and I knew

868
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 4: the band before I had gotten to the school, and

869
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 4: I had seen them live before I got into the school,

870
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 4: and they were you know, it was just such an

871
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: amazing culture to be a part of and to be

872
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 4: proud to be a part of. And there are a

873
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 4: lot of HBCUs with some good bands, but then there's

874
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: fam you.

875
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: Did this? Did you did this? Prepare you for your

876
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: time on the quad?

877
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: On BT.

878
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 4: Because you know what was amazing about my time on

879
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 4: the Quad is that I was playing a woman who

880
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 4: was from Connecticut who was thrown into the HBCU experienced

881
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 4: And did they.

882
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 5: Know your did they know your history when writing this

883
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 5: character or it was just coincidence Rob Hardy did.

884
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 4: Rob Hardy did, but a little bit of coincidence. And

885
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 4: it was really interesting and great for me to be

886
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 4: able to bring that aspect of myself to what I

887
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 4: was doing. And I had spent a lot of time

888
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 4: in academia because because of family, and my grandmother was

889
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 4: a teacher, and so all of those things sort of

890
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 4: came to ahead. But the HBCU thing, most assuredly, I

891
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: think you have to live it to know it, and

892
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: you can read about it and you can watch some video,

893
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 4: but you sort of have to live it to know it.

894
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: And I was grateful to be able to bring that

895
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 4: part of myself to that space. And we had a

896
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: couple of writers on staff who were HBCU people, and

897
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 4: Rob Hardy, who also went to family, was one of

898
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 4: the creators. So it was luck that all of that

899
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 4: came together in one space. And she was a pretty

900
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 4: fun character to play.

901
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 8: Can I ask a random role question because it was

902
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 8: two roles I just wanted to ask you about, and

903
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 8: one of them is very random, but it's still one

904
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 8: of my favorite episodes of this brandis Law and Order. Yes,

905
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 8: Law and Order SVU. I wanted to ask you about that.

906
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 8: And I wanted to ask you about what that now

907
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 8: that I know, I mean, I knew you were from Connecticut,

908
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 8: but what that meant as an East Coast actor? What

909
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 8: that means to East Coast actors in a way? And

910
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 8: was that something that you felt like you had to do?

911
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 8: It was on a bucket list of sorts in a way,

912
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 8: because it's I feel like everybody has run through Lawn Order.

913
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 4: It was not, And it was a badge of honor

914
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 4: to be the only New York actor that I knew

915
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 4: who had never been on Lawn Order. I was like,

916
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 4: apparently they don't want me, and I'm the only New

917
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 4: York actor they don't want, So I'm going to turn

918
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 4: that into an honor.

919
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 9: Instead of being like, y'all do I can't even be

920
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 9: dead in the park like people die every week, right you?

921
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: Okay?

922
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: I didn't even get that.

923
00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 4: So it took years before that happened. And and it

924
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: was a great and interesting role. And the guy who

925
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: wrote it, Oh, it's Matthew's last name. I can't think

926
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 4: of his last name, but I'm gonna figure it out

927
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 4: right now because that's rude. He he was so good

928
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 4: and I'm looking him up right now. That's why I'm

929
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: trying to multitach my mind. He saw you on David Matthews.

930
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 4: David Matthews wrote that episode. Warren Light is a really

931
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 4: good dude, and they love theater people. But David wrote

932
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 4: something so interesting with this character, this woman, this Marriam Dang,

933
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 4: who was based on a real person who had had

934
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 4: that situation happened to her. And I cannot remember.

935
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 8: The real woman's in the beginning, Okay, I researched.

936
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: Her, I pulled her up. I listened to her accent

937
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 4: over and over again to find this woman and it

938
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: was an interesting accent. It was different for me to do,

939
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 4: but it was fun. It was fun to do, and

940
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 4: it was just it was something different for me to do.

941
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: And then I now, I can't say I'm the only

942
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: one who they didn't want.

943
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 8: My second world question was just about going to be

944
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 8: about jukebox and the way that character was brought to you,

945
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 8: and if it was brought to you, if you auditioned,

946
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 8: and why it took it.

947
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 2: Took me four episodes to realize it was her.

948
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 8: Oh my god, you were just That's when I was like, oh,

949
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 8: she's you.

950
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 6: Just all things are kind of flying by you mirror like, like, no.

951
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Things, No, you're still in the doghouse. Yo, I'm gonna

952
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: come back. I'm gonna come back. Wait till we get

953
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:38,959
Speaker 1: to the Princess of the Frog.

954
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 6: I got Betty questions, but literally literally and all kinds

955
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 6: of ship.

956
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 5: There's a point where you know where I guess you

957
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 5: were going to Kiltaric or whatever. And when I watched

958
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 5: the credits to the end, I was like, no, that's

959
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 5: not her, let's get out of it. And then I

960
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 5: realized that was you and I had to rewatch that

961
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 5: episode again. Yeah, I totally did not make that you

962
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 5: until you really lost there.

963
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: For me, that is See, that's my favorite compliment. I

964
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 4: love that. I loved jukebox. I loved jukebox.

965
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 5: Courtney put you to do it, or like how I

966
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 5: met her. She's one of the nicest people ever.

967
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: Also from Connecticut. Courtney and I have mutual friends and

968
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 4: we met at a game night and Courtney also wrote

969
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: on The Good Wife? What so she knew me from

970
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 4: The Good Wife? I didn't know her at that point.

971
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 4: And then we met at this game night and had

972
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 4: a great time. And when we met, we were like,

973
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 4: we like each other. We should go to lunch. And

974
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 4: so we went to lunch and she was like, you know, Anica,

975
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: if there was a is there a role that you'd

976
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 4: want to play that you feel like no one would

977
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 4: ever give you? And I was like, huh, well yeah.

978
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 4: She was like, well what is that? I was like,

979
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 4: I would like to be a complete badass, preferably on

980
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 4: a motorcycle, which I don't drive. I don't ride motorcycles.

981
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 4: But I'm thinking this is something new when I would

982
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: have given me and you know, just completely like wild

983
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 4: and the outside of anything somebody would think of me for.

984
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 4: And this was years before before power had even happened.

985
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, that would be really cool.

986
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: I'd love to see you this way. And I was

987
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 4: like yeah. And so cut to a couple of years later,

988
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 4: I'd get a call saying would you be interested in

989
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 4: She's a cop, She's a rogue cop, she's a lesbian

990
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 4: she's sort of murderous. I said, yes, yes, I would.

991
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 4: I would be absolutely. I mean, you ain't got to

992
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 4: tell me nothing else. Thank you. I loved her. I

993
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 4: loved her because she was ruthless and interesting and different,

994
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: and it's something I would never be in life, you

995
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I would never want to

996
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: do the things that she did in life. But that's

997
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 4: one of those times where you can do all the

998
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 4: horrible things on screen and have fun with it. And

999
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 4: I got to mush fifty cent in the head, like

1000
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 4: we guessed the mushif.

1001
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: More than mush fifty cent in the head yo.

1002
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 8: And the accent I heard a DZ accent. I appreciate it.

1003
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it was. It was really

1004
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 4: really fun for me. And it was so well written.

1005
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: The episodes were so well written. And that was that, honestly,

1006
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 4: was another moment where they were just like, so, how

1007
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 4: you want to do it? And I was like, oh, really,

1008
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 4: let's go. I just got to go. And I have

1009
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 4: been in New Yorker for so long, you know, I'd

1010
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: lived in New York for a really long time, and

1011
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 4: I've always been I grew up on the East Coast,

1012
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 4: so you know, Thank God. I haven't had to really

1013
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 4: spend time with those people, but I've definitely seen those people,

1014
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 4: and you recognize them when you see them, when you

1015
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 4: look into their eye and you see like they are

1016
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: not worried about doing away with you. It would not

1017
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 4: bother them. You've seen those people. So I loved her.

1018
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 4: I loved her, and thank you.

1019
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 5: Okay, So if you can, can you completely walk me now?

1020
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 5: I feel safe asking this question because people already know

1021
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 5: on the show that my animation watching activity is very

1022
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 5: very low, with the exception of occasional few, so I

1023
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 5: don't feel bad when people ridicule.

1024
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: Me for not you never saw the Lion King.

1025
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 5: Yes, I've been through all that, So can you walk

1026
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 5: me through the process now? And again, I know this

1027
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 5: is a very historical pivotal, not even for you, but

1028
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 5: just for history.

1029
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: Love it, keep going, keep.

1030
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 6: We didn't see Princess at the front.

1031
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 4: But.

1032
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 5: What I'm asking is to please walk me through the

1033
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 5: process of how that role came to you.

1034
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: And it's the best ship ever. I have daughters and

1035
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: it's just great.

1036
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 4: I was in l A doing Carolina Change after we

1037
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 4: closed the New York Rule, the New York Run. We

1038
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 4: did a soft tour, just La and San Francisco, and

1039
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: that was all I did, because by then I had

1040
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 4: done over three hundred shows. And while I was in La,

1041
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 4: the Disney people came to see it at the mark

1042
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 4: Taper and they were like, we'd love to have a

1043
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 4: meeting with you, and I was like yes, because I

1044
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 4: had always wanted to be a Disney voice, not necessarily

1045
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 4: a Princess. I really didn't care what I was going

1046
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 4: to be. I just wanted to be a voice. And

1047
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 4: so I had this meeting and I told them that

1048
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 4: I would love to be anything, and I could be

1049
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: a fleet even and I had a sound for the

1050
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: fleet or the ticket, and they probably thought I was insane,

1051
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 4: and from that meeting I was a couple of years later,

1052
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 4: three years later, two years later, they called me for

1053
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 4: to audition for The Princess and the Frog and I

1054
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 4: read that the piece that they gave you, because they

1055
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 4: don't give you the whole thing, and I was like, oh,

1056
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 4: I know this girl. I am this girl. I am

1057
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 4: from a small town where nobody did the thing that

1058
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 4: I wanted to do. I spent my growing up and

1059
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 4: trying to do what I do, being told you know

1060
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 4: that it wasn't perhaps possible. I knew who this girl

1061
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 4: was and I was a hard worker. So it took

1062
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 4: three auditions over I don't know, must have been a

1063
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 4: year that those auditions happened. One was the first one

1064
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 4: was the day after the Dream Girl's premiere in LA,

1065
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 4: So you will see no pictures of me at the

1066
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: Dreamgirls premiere party in La because I went back to

1067
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 4: my hotel room and I worked on that audition and

1068
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: I think I sang everything in my book when I

1069
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 4: went in there, because I was like, I'm going to

1070
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: get this wrong. And the second one was some time later,

1071
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 4: and I also crazy. I was working on a show

1072
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 4: in Australia and I got a call back for the

1073
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: Princess and the Frog, and I was in Oh God,

1074
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 4: I was in New York. I was flying out to Australia.

1075
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 4: I think the next two days I was flying out

1076
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 4: and my audition was going to be I had to

1077
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: go to Australia, unpack a bag, shoot for one day,

1078
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: get on another plane, go back to LA And the

1079
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 4: day after that was my second audition. That sounds crazy

1080
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 4: because it was. However, I didn't care because I wanted

1081
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 4: that role and I was like, if I have to

1082
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 4: turn around and get dressed on this plane and gargle

1083
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 4: my way to Bourbank, I'm coming to get this role.

1084
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: So we did that, and then time went past, and

1085
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 4: I think I will It was two thousand and six,

1086
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 4: so I was we were doing the Oscars telecast for

1087
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 4: dream Girls, and Randy Newman was there because he of

1088
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 4: course had something that was nominated. And I'm looking at

1089
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 4: him because he had been in the room audition.

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01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, hi, toy Story sixteen.

1091
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: And I'm just hoping he's gonna say something positive to me,

1092
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 4: and he was like hey. And some more months went

1093
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 4: by before I got the word, and that one I

1094
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 4: got the word walking down the street in New York,

1095
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 4: headed to the bank with a sad piece of check

1096
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: in my hand. I don't know what. I just know

1097
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 4: it wasn't it wasn't exciting, but I was happy to

1098
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 4: be putting it in the bank. And I got the

1099
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 4: call walking down Broadway that I had gotten that role,

1100
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 4: and they were like, you should where are you? I

1101
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 4: was like, oh, oh, broa, where and they were like,

1102
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 4: you should come to our offices so we can celebrate.

1103
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 4: And I bopped myself to the Disney offices and had

1104
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 4: an intense, tearful, fabulous celebration and you know, three years

1105
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 4: of making later it came out. Wow.

1106
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: So it took three years from that point, wow for

1107
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: it to come out.

1108
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 4: And was that really what you were asking me? And

1109
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 4: I gave you an hire?

1110
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 5: Okay, we lived for this is the rabbit Hole Central.

1111
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 5: We we lived for those things.

1112
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: Wait can you.

1113
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 6: Talk about can you talk about Princess and the Frog?

1114
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 6: Like the music so like straight out of New Orleans

1115
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 6: and like just the whole process of like getting into

1116
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 6: that vibe. Also Randy Newman known for like the medium

1117
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 6: shuffle sort of getting himself out of that and writing

1118
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 6: things that are very you know, New orleansy as it were,

1119
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 6: And like, how did what was it? What was your

1120
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 6: approach to that and how did you feel about like

1121
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 6: being that character?

1122
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: I loved being that character.

1123
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 6: Because the singing, like the acting and the voice stuff

1124
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 6: is great in that show, but the singing and like,

1125
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 6: you know, you're always trying and Disney stuff to be

1126
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 6: the next great Disney songs, because these songs are are

1127
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 6: so high. This is coming from a guy who works

1128
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 6: to saysme street Disney songs are so high on the

1129
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 6: you know, on the thing of great songs, Like, did

1130
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 6: you feel a sense of purpose?

1131
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: I feel a.

1132
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 6: Sense of that you had to to be up. I mean,

1133
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 6: you're always up to a certain level. I'm not going

1134
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 6: to say that, but like, did you feel a sense

1135
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 6: of having to push it over the top?

1136
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: Like what was what was that? I don't want to

1137
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: get canceled again.

1138
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: No, my finger is hovering, but I didn't. I have

1139
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 4: to tap the new button. I'm glad. No. I felt

1140
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 4: a sense of responsibility towards the character. I felt a

1141
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 4: strong sense of responsibility towards her because I wanted her

1142
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 4: to be as honest and as real as possible. And

1143
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 4: I felt like it was something that I was old

1144
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 4: as a little black girl in this country who grew

1145
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 4: up on Disney. I felt like it was something that

1146
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 4: my parents' generation were old, having never seen that. And

1147
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 4: I felt like it was something that was old to

1148
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 4: the generation coming up behind me, that this person be real,

1149
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 4: that she be relatable, that she be honest. And there

1150
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 4: were things that we talked about as we went through it.

1151
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 4: You know, musically, I wanted to hear the youth in

1152
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 4: her voice, particularly as we started the movie, and the

1153
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 4: wonder in her voice, and I wanted her to be

1154
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 4: true to the sound of that era. So the movie

1155
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: starts with a tiny song the evening star shine and right,

1156
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 4: so make a wish and hold on time. There's magic

1157
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 4: in the air to night and anything can that was

1158
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 4: flat thing can happen. So I wanted that beginning to

1159
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 4: definitely be as magical and whimsical as possible. And as

1160
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 4: we went through almost there, you got her spirit in there,

1161
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 4: and you got her soul in there. That last note

1162
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 4: that I was able to just I was given the

1163
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 4: space to just hold and go with it. And then

1164
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 4: at the end, when she sings down in New Orleans,

1165
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,959
Speaker 4: which Doctor John had sung towards the beginning of the movie,

1166
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 4: I felt like it was important to hear the maturity

1167
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 4: of who she had become and the journey that she

1168
01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 4: had gone through. So it's still her, but you know,

1169
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 4: we all sing differently for different occasions, different feelings, different moments.

1170
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 4: I really put some a little bit of her gut

1171
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 4: in that song because I felt like she was freed

1172
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 4: of some things. She was freed of the responsibility that

1173
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 4: she had put on herself. She was a she was

1174
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 4: more open to just having some fun she had found love,

1175
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 4: which she didn't expect, and she had achieved her dream.

1176
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 4: And I feel like that is an opening up that

1177
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 4: happens that takes you from being a girl to a

1178
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 4: young woman. And I wanted that to be heard in

1179
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 4: her voice. So when you get to that down in

1180
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 4: New Orleans, sorry, down in New Orleans, in the Southland,

1181
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 4: there's a city way down.

1182
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 8: On the river.

1183
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 4: I wanted to use some more of the bottom part

1184
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 4: of the voice and some more and to let some

1185
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 4: more dirt for lack of a better word, come into

1186
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 4: to her voice for that song. And that was important

1187
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 4: to me, And we had a conversation about it because

1188
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 4: I didn't want her to be to spend a whole

1189
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,520
Speaker 4: movie singing in this place.

1190
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 8: I didn't want not from.

1191
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 4: New Orleans, you know what I mean. And I felt

1192
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 4: like it was important to the truth of who this

1193
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 4: young woman is and would be to have that space today.

1194
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 5: Were you allowed to sort of drive what your character

1195
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,480
Speaker 5: was or did you have to have like a conversation

1196
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 5: with the Disney people, because I you know, I would

1197
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 5: think that at least when you're dealing with the Hollywood

1198
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 5: superpower like that, they're always thinking about Middle America. And

1199
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 5: we don't want to scare them off, and you know

1200
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 5: that sort of thing.

1201
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I wasn't worried about Middle America. You know,

1202
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 4: she's from New Orleans, so I was worried about New Orleans.

1203
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,520
Speaker 4: And she is me, so I was worried about representing

1204
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 4: you know, who we are. And they wanted it to

1205
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 4: be as true to form as possible. They really did,

1206
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 4: and so I was given the space to say, you know,

1207
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 4: I don't think this would be this doesn't really make

1208
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 4: sense to me for this reason or the other. And

1209
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 4: I was heard when I said those things. Now, mind you,

1210
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 4: I didn't write the story, so it's not like the

1211
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,600
Speaker 4: necessarily the story was going to change. But if I

1212
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 4: said that something culturally didn't sit well, or if I

1213
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 4: said that, I know, we had a big talk about

1214
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 4: the scene in the I think I'm free to say this,

1215
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 4: the scene in the swamp where when Princess Tianna was

1216
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 4: a frog still and Navin was a frog and they

1217
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 4: were being hunted, and there was when we first did

1218
01:11:55,560 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 4: that scene, my concern was, I said, what we don't

1219
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 4: want in this scene is for it to feel like

1220
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 4: a slave hunt, because you know, black folks are always

1221
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 4: going to think about and feel that feeling when you've

1222
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 4: got these real what's the good word, like hick white

1223
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 4: dudes with two teeth and a net and some dogs

1224
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 4: running after us. Very important to have the tone of

1225
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 4: that scene correct. And we talked about it, and I

1226
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 4: talked about it and they were like, oh, you're absolutely right.

1227
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 4: So it made a difference in how that scene moved

1228
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:51,959
Speaker 4: and the words that were used and how the chase happened.

1229
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 4: And I'm and I'm glad that I was working with

1230
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 4: a group of people who were open to hear that.

1231
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 4: And you would think, well, of course they would, because

1232
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 4: they want to make some money, but you'd be surprised

1233
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 4: the amount of times that people don't listen to you.

1234
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 8: As you were saying it to you, I was thinking

1235
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 8: to myself, they listening, and I was wondering if that

1236
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 8: anybody in that room that looked like you though that

1237
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 8: was helping to write that story. But I'm guessing that

1238
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 8: that's why you had to provide that expertise, because.

1239
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think we had one black writer,

1240
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 4: maybe two, but they weren't always there with us. And

1241
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 4: I think when you're dealing with large entities that you

1242
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 4: do the best you can to make sure that you're heard,

1243
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 4: but sometimes it's hard to be heard. And look, I

1244
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 4: don't know what conversations happened before I said that, so

1245
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 4: let me make that very clear. I don't know what

1246
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: conversations happened. But sometimes it's hard to be heard from

1247
01:13:54,640 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 4: the inside of the room. Sometimes something has to come

1248
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 4: through from the outside of the room for people to understand, Oh,

1249
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 4: this isn't just so and so who I work with

1250
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 4: every day. This really is something that you know will

1251
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 4: be a universal thought issue, you know, problem feeling. But

1252
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 4: I don't know what they talked about beforehand, but I

1253
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,160
Speaker 4: know that for me, that that was something that we

1254
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,800
Speaker 4: really needed to talk about. And I'm glad that they

1255
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 4: heard me. And they were really wonderful during the process,

1256
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 4: like really wonderful Peter del Vaco, Ron Clements and John Musker,

1257
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 4: who are amazing and they also did a little Mermaid,

1258
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 4: so it was an amazing production team. And I did

1259
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 4: feel listened to when I spoke I'm and I'm glad

1260
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 4: for that. And I think it's only smart of people

1261
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 4: who are creating something in a culture that isn't theirs

1262
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 4: to listen to the person who in the room for

1263
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 4: whom it is now, am I from New Orleans, No,

1264
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 4: but as a black woman who grew up in this

1265
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 4: country and knows her history and has family in the South.

1266
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 4: There are things that I'm going to bring to that

1267
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 4: that they never would have listened to there. First of all,

1268
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 4: not even women, so we can start there. You know,

1269
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 4: it was a group of men, but they were good dudes.

1270
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 4: And there were other things that we talked about, like

1271
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 4: I asked for Tiana to be left handed, and they

1272
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 4: were totally into that. Yeah. Right, And that's something that

1273
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 4: you just don't I am, and it's something you just

1274
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 4: don't see, you don't get to see. It was important

1275
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 4: to me that she not have a cookie cutter body.

1276
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, this is a black girl,

1277
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 4: so let's make sure that you know, we don't want

1278
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 4: it to look like porn, which sometimes cartoons can do

1279
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 4: to people. But she need to have a booty because

1280
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,759
Speaker 4: let's be true to form. Let's make a real person,

1281
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 4: not just paint something that's there. And to be clear,

1282
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 4: this wasn't a fight. They asked me the things that

1283
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 4: I that I thought of that I felt were important,

1284
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 4: and those were, you know, some of the things that

1285
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 4: I talked about, but not all of them. But those

1286
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 4: are the things that you will see immediately. And that

1287
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 4: our hair not be straight, those are things that you'll

1288
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 4: see immediately. And it was and I have now taken

1289
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 4: you all the way to Wonderland because I think I'd

1290
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 4: forgotten what the question was.

1291
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: That I got.

1292
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 6: A quest love supreme, where every tangent is a good tangent.

1293
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 8: Again.

1294
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: No, this this brings a whole new level of respect

1295
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: that you know was already there, but added more to it.

1296
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:45,880
Speaker 5: No, thank thank you for sharing that you're in Tyler

1297
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:51,440
Speaker 5: Perry's uh for Colored Girls with damn near half of Hollywood.

1298
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: What was that?

1299
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 5: What was that whole experience like in doing that that movie?

1300
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 4: You know, it was interesting because most of those people

1301
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 4: we I didn't see till the end, and I I

1302
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't see them. However, it was it was

1303
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 4: actually a really good experience. And I'll have to say

1304
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 4: that as far as how you're treated on a set,

1305
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 4: Tyler had there were flowers in my trailer every morning

1306
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 4: when I went into work, fresh fresh flowers that had

1307
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 4: never happened before.

1308
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: And so that makes a difference.

1309
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 4: You know. All it says is we care.

1310
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 8: Okay, and at the very least you're doing so much

1311
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 8: heavy work that it kind of doesn't end up lifting

1312
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 8: a ways. Okay, well, at least I'm starting my day

1313
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 8: off with these flowers, because yeah, start.

1314
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 4: Off with something nice because you're going into the ships

1315
01:17:54,320 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 4: that one. But that was a really lovely thing. And

1316
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,600
Speaker 4: we shot in New York and we shot in Atlanta

1317
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 4: and it was pretty fast. But yeah, so I didn't

1318
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 4: really get to Tandy and I became very close on

1319
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 4: that set. For some reason, we ended up being what

1320
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 4: year was that we ended up being connected that two

1321
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:21,600
Speaker 4: thousand and nine, and Carrie and I became friendly, but

1322
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 4: we didn't really get to find, you know, meld and

1323
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 4: work together because it really as much of an ensemble

1324
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 4: as it was. It was also, you know, if you

1325
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 4: know the original piece, which I'm sure you do, it

1326
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 4: was monologues, right, It was singular stories that cut together

1327
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 4: and touch each other in the corners. So but what

1328
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 4: I am grateful like that monologue is such an amazing

1329
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 4: and phenomenal monologue that I got to do in the hospital.

1330
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 4: And I remember Tyler was like, oh, so we're gonna

1331
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 4: do this shot and then that shot and the other shot,

1332
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 4: and I started to do it. We did a rehearsal,

1333
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 4: and then I went back to and we didn't want

1334
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 4: to use a lot of time because it was so

1335
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 4: emotional and I was coming off with something else and

1336
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 4: going straight into that, and I was supposed to go

1337
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 4: back to makeup, and I said, no, I don't want

1338
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 4: any makeup. I want you to leave my face as

1339
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 4: it is. I think it's important to see her face.

1340
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 4: I don't want her to look nice or better or

1341
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 4: falsely worse. I want you to see her face as

1342
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 4: it is. And he did not fight me on that.

1343
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 4: And then one thing that he did, which I really

1344
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 4: appreciate it was he was like, you know what, we

1345
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 4: were going to do different angles, but you just do

1346
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 4: your monologue. And so instead of doing different angles and

1347
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 4: cutting and doing this and that and the other, I

1348
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 4: did a take and he got closer and closer and

1349
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 4: closer and closer with the camera so that it didn't

1350
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 4: have to be cut up and I didn't have to

1351
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 4: find create that same emotional space because I've waited now

1352
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 4: for fifteen minutes for a camera angle to change or

1353
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 4: for a lens to change, which God bless them, those

1354
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 4: people are doing their jobs, and they're trying to make

1355
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 4: you look as good as possible when the edit is done.

1356
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 4: But sometimes there is something to be said for allowing

1357
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 4: the emotional space to live and just showing it in

1358
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 4: its naked space. And I think that that's something that's

1359
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 4: something that happened in that moment that I think Tyler

1360
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 4: totally made. Well. Look, that sounds crazy, but it felt

1361
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 4: like the right choice to me at the time, and

1362
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 4: as an artist, it definitely was the right choice for

1363
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 4: me to be able to do the best that I could.

1364
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: Do in that space, you know what.

1365
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 5: You mentioned that, And then it also hit me that

1366
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,920
Speaker 5: well because I worked on it as well. You were

1367
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 5: No No, No, No, not colored girls. I've worked on Roots,

1368
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 5: you were on Kiss, and I totally forgot I was.

1369
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 4: Episode four. I think I was, you know, which was

1370
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 4: quite an honor to bring that, to bring that story

1371
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 4: to the young people, people who haven't seen the original,

1372
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 4: who didn't know about the original, And at first I

1373
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 4: was like, why are y'all doing this again?

1374
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: What already?

1375
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 4: And not because it was about slavery, because listen, I

1376
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 4: think it's important that people know about slavery. Here's one thing,

1377
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 4: there's a reason that the Jewish population teaches the Holocaust

1378
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 4: all of the time, and they teach it all of

1379
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 4: the time because it is important for young people to

1380
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 4: know what happened so that it does not happen again.

1381
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 4: We must move through the pain of the thing so

1382
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 4: that we know how to keep it from coming back,

1383
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 4: so that we are clear on our history, and so

1384
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 4: for people who did not live the history know what

1385
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 4: their lineage did and can teach themselves and their children

1386
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 4: to do different things and make different choices. We must

1387
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 4: tell the story of slavery. We must, and maybe we

1388
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 4: want to tell it from a different angle. Okay, I

1389
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 4: think that it's important to talk about It's important to

1390
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 4: talk about the revolutions that happened on plantations. It's important

1391
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 4: to tell this, to not just tell the story of bondage,

1392
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 4: but to tell the story of the breaking freeze, to

1393
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 4: tell the story of the moors, to tell the story

1394
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 4: of the Sorry the oh. I can't remember.

1395
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 8: Shaking my head so hard because me and Fonte had

1396
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 8: this debate all the time. I'm like, it's important.

1397
01:22:57,720 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 4: The more is not the word that I wanted to say,

1398
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 4: but the ah what do they call the people in

1399
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 4: Jamaica and then Haiti who went off into the hills.

1400
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 4: And I can't think of the name of the word.

1401
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 4: It starts with the M. I can't think of it

1402
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 4: right now. But see, that's why you have to keep tellings.

1403
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,520
Speaker 4: But there are other angles to enslavement and to slavery.

1404
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 4: But also what we need to do, like with Jingle Jangle,

1405
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 4: is have stories in that time period where you see

1406
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 4: people who are not dealing with bondage, because bondage was

1407
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,679
Speaker 4: not what we sprang from. Bondage is not the only

1408
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 4: thing that happened to us. So I am somebody who yeah,

1409
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 4: sometimes I'm like, oh God, I don't know the slave story,

1410
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 4: but only because it's coming from the same angle. We

1411
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 4: have to look at other angles. But we cannot afford

1412
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 4: to not tell this story. And if we thought we

1413
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 4: could afford to not tell this story, January sixth should

1414
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 4: have taught us.

1415
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: Exactly.

1416
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 4: That's where I am making a gun.

1417
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 8: Because I make this point constantly and people always argue

1418
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 8: with me about it, and I'm like, I don't understand

1419
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 8: twelve years a slave with not the same slave movie

1420
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 8: as Roots twelve You of the slave was really cause

1421
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 8: I'm kind of different, like I've never seen the Story

1422
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 8: of a Free Man that guy kidnapp Like, stop acting

1423
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 8: like that's the same. It just was.

1424
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 4: So I'm just runs maroons want to give me.

1425
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 8: Sorry?

1426
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: Are you do you feel that you're now at the

1427
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 1: place where you can.

1428
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 5: Well that you can create productions and and and things

1429
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 5: that you want to do without having without not having

1430
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 5: to go through the Hollywood shuffle. It's like, are you

1431
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 5: past the place where it's like, no, this particular company

1432
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 5: calls and we want you to fly in to read

1433
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 5: for this role in that I'm learning now through this

1434
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 5: show that there's two different types of processes, Like you

1435
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 5: get called.

1436
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: In and you have to read and read and read

1437
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 1: and wait for a call back.

1438
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 5: And then there's people that are like, I won't do that.

1439
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 4: There are times when I won't do that. There are

1440
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 4: times when I won't do that because sometimes people want

1441
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 4: to put you through hoops just to put you through hoops,

1442
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 4: and there's too much tape for people to watch to

1443
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 4: be putting folks through hoops for no reason of very

1444
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 4: different roles, you know what I mean. It's not like

1445
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 4: I've been doing the same role for twenty years and

1446
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 4: you're like, but today we'd like you to be a magician,

1447
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 4: and we've never seen you pull a rabbit out of

1448
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 4: the hat. You know, there's a lot of tape for

1449
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 4: people to look at. So there are some things where

1450
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 4: I'm just like, no, no, I'm not going to do that.

1451
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 4: There are other things that I would be willing to

1452
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 4: and I do go in for. I mean, i'd like

1453
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 4: to say that's over, but I don't know that it's

1454
01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 4: ever over, to be perfectly honest. There are things that

1455
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 4: I get on offers for, and then there are things

1456
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 4: that are like, we'd love for you to We love you,

1457
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 4: You're amazing. We think, oh my god, you are our

1458
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 4: favorite in this and we've got this amazing role. We'd

1459
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 4: love for you to read what happened of Love? What

1460
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 4: happened to that?

1461
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 5: So we love for you to read. It's sort of

1462
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 5: the deal breaker that, like man, it depends on.

1463
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 4: The on the role, on the project, on how I

1464
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 4: feel about it. It depends. There are a whole lot

1465
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 4: of variables that that go into that.

1466
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: So is there a genre that you haven't stepped into yet,

1467
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: like the horror genre or I don't. I don't know

1468
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: if they call the Marvel world like science fiction or not.

1469
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like I don't know what the I'm

1470
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 5: supposed to do a horror movie.

1471
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 4: I was scheduled to get on a plane two weeks

1472
01:26:53,120 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 4: after Quarantine it and I'm supposed to be in Romania,

1473
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 4: but no, it was a really it was interesting and

1474
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 4: different and potentially a lot of fun. And now I

1475
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 4: think it's dead. I would love to I miss comedy.

1476
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 4: I miss comedy, and I think maybe people have forgotten

1477
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:19,720
Speaker 4: that I can do that, so I sort of miss

1478
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 4: that now. Sort of I really do miss do income

1479
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 4: comedic things. I would love to do a cute, little

1480
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 4: romantic comedy or just a regular comedy. I love sci

1481
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 4: fi and I'm glad you mentioned that. And I've got

1482
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 4: the rights to a couple of book series that I

1483
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 4: am trying to make happen, And then I don't have

1484
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 4: the right to a couple of series that I'm friends

1485
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 4: with the authors, and I'm like, I'm we are talking

1486
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 4: about moving forward with me as part of their package

1487
01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 4: without moving the rights, but to have me as a

1488
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 4: producer and an actor on it, because I sort of

1489
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,880
Speaker 4: I love sci fi. I love us in the world

1490
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 4: of sci fi. I love anything that goes beyond the

1491
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 4: boundary that people have tried to give us, And so

1492
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 4: I'm into those things because I'm not into being told

1493
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 4: who I am allowed to be. So that is always

1494
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 4: exciting to me when I can find something that is

1495
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 4: outside of the space that we have sort of been

1496
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 4: relegated to, because I always say, and people are like,

1497
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 4: when I see a sci fi movie and people are,

1498
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 4: you know, seventy five, one hundred years into the future

1499
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 4: and you've got one black person.

1500
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 8: You a lie, you a lie.

1501
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 4: There is no way that black people and I mean

1502
01:28:52,360 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 4: throughout the diaspora have been through the things that they

1503
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 4: have been through and are here in twenty twenty one,

1504
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 4: and you think we're not about to be here in

1505
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 4: thirty twenty one.

1506
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 8: If you here, we here, we started this time, we're here.

1507
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 4: So that is always a story that I'm interested in

1508
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 4: telling and putting us in a space where we have

1509
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 4: been told that we do not belong or will not exist.

1510
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm always interested in that awesome, awesome, real quick.

1511
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 5: My last question is about Jingle Jingle, Like, what was

1512
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 5: the experience for you and doing that film? And well,

1513
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:34,799
Speaker 5: I know it's important for at least my nieces and nephews,

1514
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 5: like they you know, they lost their minds over it

1515
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 5: and seeing it.

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01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how did that project come to you?

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01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 4: David Talbert offered me that role, and it was so

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01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 4: funny because I think he was trying to get in

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01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 4: touch with me for like the better part of a year.

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01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 4: We just kept missing each other and I would have

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01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 4: missed out on something so great.

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01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 8: No happy, But it success for him too, by the way, Yes.

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01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:08,439
Speaker 4: It's really great for him. And so we had a

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01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 4: Zoom meeting because I don't know where I was. I

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01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 4: think I was. I was in New Orleans shooting some

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01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 4: and so we met on Zoom and we talked and

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01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 4: then it was had to go up the flagpole and

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01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 4: then oh and while we were talking about it, I

1529
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 4: had read a version of the script, which was an

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01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 4: fairly early version of the script at that point, and

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01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 4: I was like, this is cute and this is cool

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01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 4: and yeah, this is interesting. And then he was like,

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01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 4: and you know it's a musical and I was like, oh, yeah,

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01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 4: I had heard it was a musical. That's cool. Well

1535
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 4: who's doing the music and he said Philip Lawrence, phil

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01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 4: and John Legend And I was like and sold. Because

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01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 4: everything came together in that package. You've got this Chris

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01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 4: story with us centralized and normal but also magical, and

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01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 4: now you've got these amazing musicians connected to it. I

1540
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 4: love Phil Lawrence. I think he is magnificent. And I

1541
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,559
Speaker 4: also love Bruno Mars, whom you know that he writes

1542
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 4: for a lot, but he as a singer musician is

1543
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 4: also beyond Phil himself. And I've already told you how

1544
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 4: much I love John Legend and his work and how

1545
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 4: he is able to translate story to song and a

1546
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 4: song for a story. So all of those things sort

1547
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 4: of just worked together, and it was a really wonderful

1548
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 4: thing to be a part of another project that centralizes

1549
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 4: Black children and our wonder, our ability to feel wonder

1550
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 4: the joy of Christmas in a way that wasn't showing lack.

1551
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 4: You know, there was family dysfunction, but that's important to

1552
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,599
Speaker 4: show too because we all have it. But the story

1553
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 4: wasn't about what these people couldn't have, couldn't get, couldn't whatever,

1554
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 4: aside from love. And they rectified that. The story took

1555
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 4: place in the Victorian Age with these amazing costumes by

1556
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 4: Michael Wilkinson, who's Australia, randomly and phenomenal, and he mixed

1557
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 4: all these African fabrics in with these Victorian costumes and

1558
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 4: these amazing colors, and then the hair with Sharon Martin,

1559
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 4: who I'd worked with on Half of The Yellow Sun,

1560
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 4: and all the hair was natural and it wasn't like

1561
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 4: there wasn't a commentary on it, because this is what

1562
01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 4: people's hair was supposed to look like, does look like,

1563
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 4: looks like. So the amount of positive reinforcement within this

1564
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 4: film without beating people over the head with it is

1565
01:32:55,560 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 4: just fantastic. And then you know, again, to be able

1566
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 4: to sing the songs that I was able to sing

1567
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 4: was delicious. And I'll say this because we were talking

1568
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 4: about make it work and it's not a way that

1569
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 4: people have heard me sing before, and that for me

1570
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 4: was quite the gift because I love to access that

1571
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 4: part of my voice. And I think usually when people

1572
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 4: are thinking of me, they're thinking of me as a soprano,

1573
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 4: because that's you know, I am a soprano. However, I'm

1574
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 4: also that you know, I'm also that gritty. I don't know,

1575
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not Fantasia, so I'm not I haven't

1576
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 4: gone there yet. I think when I do that, that's

1577
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 4: the farewell concert. That'll be the last note, but I

1578
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 4: also live in the deeper register of my voice and

1579
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 4: I and I really enjoy being there. So there was

1580
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 4: an aspect of my voice that I don't think I

1581
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 4: had gotten to express before, and that to me was

1582
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 4: really joyous to be able to do so the whole thing.

1583
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 4: And I got to work with my Felicia Machad, who

1584
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 4: I just love, love love. I got to see Madeline

1585
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 4: come into being, which is always something that's amazing when

1586
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 4: you see a little kid come into to being. Kieran Dyer,

1587
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 4: who played Edison, who was a scream, was also magnificent

1588
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:28,719
Speaker 4: and the lovely and very gentle Forrest Whitaker, so there's

1589
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 4: there was nothing to not lack about it.

1590
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 1: Really wow. Thank you. You know.

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01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 5: Our episodes can go on forever, but you know we

1592
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 5: gottap up.

1593
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: We have to wrap up. We really thank you.

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01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 4: I thank you because I have embarrassed myself in front

1595
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 4: of you at least twice. I have shamed myself at

1596
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 4: least the first time you were DJing at Hammi party.

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01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,799
Speaker 2: I do this, yeah.

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01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, in l a Okay, I.

1599
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 4: Can't remember what hotel it was, but anyway, and.

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01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: You were going off the year's eve.

1601
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 4: No, no, the Emmys. The Emmys was a couple of

1602
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 4: years ago, and Kirk was playing the hell out of

1603
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 4: this guitar. I mean when I say he was playing

1604
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 4: the hell out of this guitar. So he was playing it,

1605
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 4: and he lifted it over this girl's head, and I

1606
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 4: think she was talking, and I don't think he appreciated

1607
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 4: that at the time. So he lifted it over her

1608
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:36,559
Speaker 4: head and she was talking to her friend, and and

1609
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 4: the and the guitar came over her head. And he's

1610
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,240
Speaker 4: playing the guitar in front of this girl as if

1611
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 4: she was playing it and got all of her attention

1612
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,800
Speaker 4: and all of our attention. And my mouth is open

1613
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 4: and my eyes are wide, and I'm like, I can

1614
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 4: what's happening right here, right now? This is amazing. And

1615
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,879
Speaker 4: so I started you all were going on a break.

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01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 2: I think it was her Amazon. I remember this.

1617
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 4: It was like you root for the hotel being crazy.

1618
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1619
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,759
Speaker 4: I was a little fanned out right. I was amped

1620
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 4: by the music, and I was feeling very fanny. And

1621
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,880
Speaker 4: I was walking and talking and not paying attention, but

1622
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 4: like running my mouth about how fantastic everything was. And

1623
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 4: I don't remember who stopped me, but I was I

1624
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 4: was being talked to. I wasn't talking at somebody's back

1625
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,640
Speaker 4: or anything. I wasn't being a crazy person. But I

1626
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 4: was talking and running my mouth and I had to

1627
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 4: be stopped, and I was like, what, what's happening? And

1628
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 4: it didn't occur to me that you all were going

1629
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 4: into your dressing Oh really?

1630
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 9: And I was just walking and talking and like heading

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01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 9: into this dressing room with y'all, and I.

1632
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 4: Was moretrified, and I was like, these people are going

1633
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 4: to think I'm insane and they are never going to

1634
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:50,120
Speaker 4: speak to me again. And it has lived with me

1635
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 4: for years. So thank you for erasing that, Like you know,

1636
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 4: men are blacking it from your memory of.

1637
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: All the roots. We definitely welcome you into our dressing room.

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01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 8: I'm just.

1639
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you so much for doing this for us,

1640
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 5: and thank you for you know, we appreciate your your

1641
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 5: talent and and sharing your story with us, and you

1642
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,960
Speaker 5: know we're proud of you. Thank you for coming on

1643
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 5: the show.

1644
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 4: Thank you so very much. It was really lovely speaking

1645
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 4: with all of you and getting to know you, and

1646
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,599
Speaker 4: you know, outside of what you see of the person,

1647
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 4: but really getting to see you the person has been

1648
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:58,440
Speaker 4: a gift all of you and and Bill, I forgive you.

1649
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 5: All right, I'm still canceled, but thank you or viaf

1650
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 5: like you and Sugar Stephen, and we have.

1651
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 1: The same birthday. Nice job.

1652
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 7: Wow that's my wife's birthday. You got you and my

1653
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 7: wife same birthday. And she's left handed as well.

1654
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah wow.

1655
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Nice wow.

1656
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 5: Anyway, anything else, Steve, Nope, just the birthday thing. Thanks, okay, okay,

1657
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 5: anyway where we have a birthday burger group down there,

1658
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:27,959
Speaker 5: and and fontigolo and uncanceled uh Bill.

1659
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: Uh this quest left signing off for QLs.

1660
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 2: We'll see you on the next go round.

1661
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: Thank you, yo, what's up?

1662
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:36,959
Speaker 2: This is Fante.

1663
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 7: Make sure you keep up with us on Instagram at

1664
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,680
Speaker 7: QLs and let us know what you think you who

1665
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 7: should be next to sit down with him?

1666
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast, all right? Peace

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01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:58,520
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