1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off teared down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you get healthcare, 3 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: all of it, then you can keep your plan. If 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: you are satisfied with is not the President of the 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: United States, take it to a bank. Together, we will 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: make America great again. You'll never sharender. It's what you've 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: been waiting for all day. The buck Sexton Show. Join 8 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: the conversation called buck toll free at eight four four 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: nine hundred buck. That's eight four four, nine hundred to 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: eight to five. The future of talk radio buck Sexton. 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: So I've always seemed to get, for whatever reason, a 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: disproportionate amount of press or media and about my whole life. 13 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: Somebody will explain some day why. But I've always gotten 14 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: a lot. And as a businessman, I was always treated 15 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: really well by the press. You know, the numbers speak 16 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: and things happen, But I've always really had a very 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: good press. And it wasn't until I became a politician 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: that I realized how nasty, how mean, how vicious, and 19 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: how fake the press can be. As the camera start 20 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: going off in the back. But but overall, I mean 21 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: the bottom line, somebody said, well, they couldn't have been 22 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: that bed, because here we are. We are president, and 23 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 1: I think we're doing a really great job with my team. 24 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: I have a team of just tremendous people, and I 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: think we're doing a very special job. And I really 26 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: believe it was time and it was time to do 27 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: that job. Welcome to buck Section show, everybody there. You 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: had the President in Davos laying it down. I love 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: the press of booth background when he calls them out. 30 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, it's this is the most This is the 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: most entertaining presidency. Just put aside the politics and all 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: the winds. And I'm not you're tired of winning, but 33 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: this is the most entertaining presidency to be political analysts 34 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: for certainly in my lifetime. It's great stuff, it really is. 35 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: He's up there in the presses in the back boom, 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: and they just can't handle any of this. They hate 37 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: what's going on because here's the here's the overall storyline 38 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: that they've been running with for a long time. Here's 39 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: what you've been hearing about. Right. International community, like just 40 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: they hate Trump, I mean, like we're not gonna have 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: any allies left and like world leaders won't talk to him. 42 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: And like, oh my gosh, like, what's all that stuff? Right? 43 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: So much whining, so much snowflake is him out there 44 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: from people who think that Trump is is going to 45 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: destroy all of our relations with the rest of the world, 46 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: and oh it's just so just so terrible. Meanwhile, he 47 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: shows up at Davos, which is you know, fence. See 48 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: it's in Switzerland. It's very like you know, yodeling, skiing 49 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: and big bank accounts, and he's got this collectional world 50 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: leaders and these kind of events are really they are 51 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: just media and photo op stuff. It's it's not it's 52 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: not only useful policy, right, It's not all that much 53 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: to do there other than give some speeches and who 54 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: really cares, you know that the Davos Forum, all right, 55 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: but Trump takes that as an opportunity to get the 56 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: message out there. So they're not going to hash out 57 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: some amazing international agreement with world leaders necessarily. But Trump's 58 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: at least gonna say, hey, we're open for business. Things 59 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: are going well, and he's treated they're kind of like 60 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: a rock star. You know. People are like, oh, wow, Trump, 61 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: the the Trump presidency is not this blite, is not 62 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: this uh terrible creating us evil that people don't want 63 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: to be anywhere near right. That's just not the case, 64 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: and the press is freaked out about it. Jim mc 65 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: cost over at CNN is not a happy camper. He's 66 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: had a pretty good reception here in Davos for somebody 67 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: who railed against globalism as a candidate for president. Uh. 68 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: He has been mixing and mingling with these fat cats 69 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: and big wigs UH NonStop ever since he's been on 70 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: the ground here in Davos, and he's had a pretty 71 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: friendly reception. I will say, though, it was rather remarkable 72 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: to hear Uh, the founder of this World Economic Forum 73 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: also take jabs at the press and say that the 74 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: president is the victim of biased interpretations and misconceptions. All 75 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: in all, that that was a fairly a pitiful display. 76 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: I think could have so many business and global leaders 77 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: here have those kinds of statements made with the president 78 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: by his side, and then nobody really take exception to that. 79 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: But that that is sort of the what we're living, 80 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: and that's the environment we live in with President Trump, 81 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Paul and all. It was. It was fascinating to watch 82 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: the president get this reception here at Davos. Not what 83 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: I expected out all trum Acosta sad. So the head 84 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: of Davos is like, Yo, the media is all over Trump. 85 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, And there's just a Costa reporter to 86 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: let us know that it was a quote pitiful display 87 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: that the head of Davos is agreeing with Trump of 88 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: the media hates him. This is what I want to know. 89 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: I would like the opportunity at some point. I mean, 90 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: they'll never do this, right. I think I'm probably not 91 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: allowed to go in to see an anymore, but uh, 92 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: even if I'm invited. But the question I want to 93 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: ask is do any of you really think that the 94 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: press doesn't hate Trump? So why do you get annoyed 95 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: when he says that that you do? Does anyone really 96 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: think that there hasn't been a massive media effort to 97 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: undermine this presidency from the start. Well, if we can 98 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: all agree that that's the case, what's the problem. Why 99 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: do they get mad when he says it? It's not 100 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: just trolling them, which is also great, it's that he 101 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: confronts them with basic realities that they object to and 102 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: can't handle. And meanwhile, he's he did agree he was 103 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: representing America doing a great job at the Davos thing. 104 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: I mean, hey, here's Trump himself. The cutting of the 105 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: regulations was every bit as important as what we did 106 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: with the tax cuts. And but you put them both 107 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: together and we have a dynamic country again. I mean, 108 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: everybody's talking. I just came out and some really wonderful 109 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: people said, Davos has never been like this. This is 110 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: like walking into the Academy Awards, except we have more photography. Yeah, 111 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: that's right. Trump is an international celebrity even without being president. 112 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: And now yeah, yeah, the fact that he's the leader 113 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: of the free world. It's just good stuff. It's good. 114 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, the stock market setting all the 115 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: records that it is, I think it was up again 116 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: another record today. We've set eight four records since my 117 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: election record stock market prices, meaning we hit new highs 118 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: eighty four different times out of a one year period. 119 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: And that's a great things. And in all fairness, that 120 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: was done before we passed the tax cuts, and textually 121 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: for him, So what happened is really something special. Great companies, 122 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: they're all investing. Uh. When one of the gentlemen said 123 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: he's putting in two billion dollars because of the tax cuts, 124 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: I said to myself. Wow, he's actually the cheap one 125 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: in the group because they're putting in massive numbers of 126 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: billions of dollars. So you can imagine if you're if 127 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: you're part of the mainstream media and you're out there 128 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: at Davos right now, not only are you having to 129 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: deal with the the the crumbling facade that you've been 130 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: working feverishly now for over a year to put up 131 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: there of just oh Trump, it's going to be disaster, 132 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: it's to be so bad. Things are not disastrous. Things 133 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: are going well in the country. And you've got all 134 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: these international dignitaries and big wigs and you know, fancy 135 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: pants and all the rest of it, and they're like 136 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: shaking hands with Trump. Listen to Trump clapping for him. 137 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: The head of Davos is saying, yeah, the press can't 138 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: get an easy break when you're Trump with the press, 139 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Am I right? Am? I right? You know, that's that's 140 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: the last thing that the media wants to hear. And 141 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: they won't adjust, they won't do anything to to make 142 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: the necessary changes to be in line with reality that 143 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: rather run in this alternate reality of it's all it's 144 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: all terrible, it's all for them. It's a nightmare. The 145 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: success and prosperity of the United States and the the 146 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: victories of the President on the world stage are part 147 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: of their nightmare. They absolutely hate it. So today of 148 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 1: the show, I'm just gonna give you a sense of 149 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: where we're gonna go here. I'm gonna get into immigration 150 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: soon because is that's it's gotta be a focal point 151 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: of our discussion today. We've I mentioned yesterday what the 152 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: proposal is for a DOCCA deal. We'll be talking about that, 153 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: and I'm definitely want to hear from more of you 154 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: about this because I'm look, I can't get behind this. 155 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a bad deal. I don't understand why 156 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: Trump is well, maybe this isn't what the deal ends 157 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: up being. I keep saying that right but sounding right now. 158 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: When you get Steven Miller, the most hard line adviser 159 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: that the President has on immigration, saying this is the deal, 160 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: I tend to think that it probably is. So we've 161 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: got to dig down into that and we'll talk more 162 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: about it. We'll also get into the latest on the 163 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: FBI text messages and what's really going on here, what's 164 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: true and what's not about that. You will note that 165 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: your your humble radio servant over here told you a 166 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: few days ago that the whole Secret Society think they 167 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: were gonna say it's a joke. And now that's what 168 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: the story is, and it sounds like it was a joke, 169 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: at least that's what's accepted thus far. Uh So, I 170 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: want to look at what's real what's not on the 171 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: text messages, and we will get into that. Also, I'm 172 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: not sure you have time to talk more about the 173 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: flu season today. I'm just being a hypochondriact, but it's 174 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: really bad, and I'm thinking if everything i'm reading says 175 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna get a whole lot worse, we're gonna do that. 176 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: Trump wanted a fire. Muller and June people are talking 177 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: about obstruction. That's just nonsense. But we'll go there. We'll 178 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: smack that, we will buck slap that line of argument 179 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: down together. That'll be fun. And I've got a really 180 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: phenomenal guest coming up later in the show. We're gonna 181 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: spend some time with him here. He's calling in from 182 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Mexico City and he's going to talk to us about 183 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: what's really happening with the cartels. I think that a 184 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: discussion about immigration and the border and border security without 185 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: an understanding of just how bad it is right now 186 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: south of the border is, it's incomplete. I think we 187 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: have to know what's going on there, and keep in 188 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: mind that whenever we're talking about the power of the 189 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: cartels and the drug lords down there, we are inherently 190 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: discussing a U S security and social policy problem because 191 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: the drugs are primarily flooding into our country. So when 192 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: you have really powerful, very violent cartels that are involved 193 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: in political corruption and international trafficking, including primarily into the 194 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: U S and the U S cities, that's got to 195 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: be a part of the discussion too. Before we start saying, yeah, 196 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a border wall built in five years. Okay, 197 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: well what happens for the next five years, folks? Is 198 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: there some stuff going on south of the borders. I 199 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: was saying that you're gonna it'll blow your mind. I 200 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: think we're gonna talk to a journalist who's down there 201 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: and recovering it for a long time about what the 202 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: ground truth is. It'll be coming up later on in 203 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: the show. So we're gonna make good use of our 204 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: time together on this Friday. Also, because we always like 205 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: to it. We'll have some fun. It is action movie 206 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: quote Friday. If you want to bring it to the 207 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: action movie quote master up, we have action areas yourself. 208 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 1: Question to a lucky well, do you a movie spot 209 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: of quote to me Fridays Action movie quote Fridays eight 210 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: four for eight, four for nine to eight to five. 211 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Light up those lines. Team, let's have a chat. Let's 212 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: see what you think about all this stuff and more, 213 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: and I'll be right back. There's a tremendous spirit in 214 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: the United States. I would say it's a spirit like 215 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: I have never witnessed before I've been here for a while, 216 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: I have never witnessed the spirit that our country has 217 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: right now. So I just want to thank you all 218 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: and all of those that are pouring billions of dollars 219 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: into our country or ten dollars into our country. We 220 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Oh, there you have the President 221 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: speaking in front of all these fancy world leaders talking 222 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: about how America is kicking button taking names and isn't 223 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: it great? And thank you for investing money in us, 224 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna tread and do good things together and 225 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: it's all gonna be great. And the media just just 226 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: frothy mouth with rage. I just spittle coming out of 227 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: their mouths as they talk about this, because he's supposed 228 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: to be the buffoon, right the the you know, pajama clad, 229 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: cheeseburger eating couch potato super TV watcher, which, by the way, 230 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna be this weekend, I'm hoping. So 231 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: that's my plan for the weekend. Sounds great, but that's 232 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: what that's what the problem is here with the media. 233 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: They they've they've conjured up this one version of Trump 234 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: and what he's doing in the country, and it doesn't 235 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: square with the truth. And so they just have to 236 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: keep digging and digging and digging and hope that at 237 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: some point catastrophe will befall the country economically or otherwise, 238 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: and then they can say, see, we were right all along. 239 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: That's what they're dug in on. It's not gonna change. 240 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: But I think that's why maybe some people should actually 241 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: listen to, at least on this issue. That billionaire Tom 242 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Steyer who bought those really annoying ads, you know, about 243 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Trump and stuff, and I forget even what it was about. 244 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: I just remember seeing Tom Steyer. I'm like, dude, you're 245 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: a billionaire, you know, do you really have to annoy us? 246 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: You're very lucky man. But he was right about this. 247 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: At least Dems are overconfident about the mid terms, or 248 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: maybe they're actually losing that confidence pretty quickly these days. Listen, 249 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: I think anybody who's a Democrat is overconfident about November 250 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: is wrong. I agree with your point that this is 251 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: going to be a very tough election. I think the 252 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is this is gonna be a 253 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: hotly contested election. It's gonna be too dramatically different views 254 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: of the country and our values. You talk about the 255 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: stock war, the stock market is basically benefits rich people. 256 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: It is going to be highly contested. I completely agree 257 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: with you, and I think anybody who is, you know, 258 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: over confident taking anything for granted is wrong. Well, he's 259 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: right that it's gonna be a tough election for Democrats 260 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: because on the the current trajectory, they're going to have 261 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: nothing to offer other than this bogus Russia collusion nonsense. 262 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: And they're not gonna want to have that fight publicly 263 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: if they're gonna want to win, I mean, they're they're 264 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: not gonna want to turn this into a Russia collusion referendum. 265 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: I think, based on what we have seen thus far, 266 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: they can go with that all day. Oh but Mueller, 267 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: don't worry vote for me. Mueller is gonna get Trump. 268 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I do not think so. There's 269 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: some more information about the FBI text messages that wasn't 270 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: about the Russia collusion part of all of this. It's 271 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: about that the fix was in for Hillary. So we've 272 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: got some more text message just that I wanted to 273 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: bring to your attention here. This is between Peter Struck 274 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: and Lisa Page. Never thought that they'd be quite as 275 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: famous as they are. I can promise you that they are. 276 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: They are now household names for anybody that's reading newspapers 277 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: or watching the news across the country. They're reading newspapers, 278 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: reading websites. I feel like, I don't think I've read 279 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: a newspaper, an actual physical newspaper, and I don't even 280 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: know how long, you know. And there's a difference, there's 281 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: like a generational difference to when my dad reads a newspaper, 282 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: he can like fold it and flip it and do 283 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, because he's used to it. For me, a newspaper, 284 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: I look like I'm trying to use it as a 285 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: bedsheet or something like I'm trying to like keep the 286 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: rain off me with it. I always I can't. It 287 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: like falls on me, and I'm not. I don't have 288 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: the dexterity in the hands too to handle the newspaper properly. 289 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: So that's a whole different that's a whole generational thing. 290 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: You know, you knick get old school with that newspaper. 291 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: You get used to, you know what, you guys know 292 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Why now do you even realize 293 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: how fast? Think about this, everybody, how fast your thumbs 294 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: are when you're typing text mat sages. I remember being 295 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: in computer class in the fifth or sixth grade and 296 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: using like one finger on each hand and kind of 297 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: poking at the keyboard, and that was pretty normal. A 298 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: lot of people couldn't really type, And now I can. 299 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: I can basically write a book on my phone with 300 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: my left hand, you know, just just doing It's it's 301 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: crazy how much better we've all gotten at this stuff. 302 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: What the heck was I talking about? Oh yeah, that's right. 303 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: So the text messages. Sorry I got well diverted there. 304 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: The text message is struck in page here's here's what 305 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: we've got in the new one. The last thing you 306 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: need page wrote is going in there loaded for bear expression. 307 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're all familiar with you think she's going 308 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: to remember or care that it was more d o 309 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: J than FBI. So this is more proof of what 310 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: we already knew. This is just following through on many 311 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: of the stories that I've been telling you about, and 312 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: the and the the analysis that we've been uh hammering 313 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: out together here in the Freedom Hunt. And that's that 314 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: they didn't want to charge Hillery. We know this. Of 315 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: course they didn't want a charge Hillery. Of course they 316 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to charge Hillery. They thought you was gonna 317 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: be the president. What do you think your longevity as 318 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: a public servant would be, especially at the top level 319 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: of the d J in a Clinton administration, if they 320 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: had brought criminal charges about the emails that keep in mind, 321 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: maybe they could have brought charges and you made or 322 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: take some kind of a plea and just taking away 323 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: your security clearance probably. I mean, I know people say, oh, 324 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: she would have gone to prison for decades. Actually not true. 325 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: See I'm honest about this stuff. Some people lock her up, right, 326 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I get that, right. That's more of a 327 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: more of a slogan, I think than an actual policy director. 328 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Very unlikely based on other cases of uh, that would 329 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: be like this, that would be recklessness, not maliciousness, right, 330 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: reckless instead of I'm actually gonna sell secrets or something 331 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: like that. That those would be treated differently under law, 332 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: and they have been in the past. But for a 333 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: recklessness case, you know, I don't know, maybe she would 334 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: have gotten some jail time. I don't know. The point 335 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: is that you didn't want to be in the top 336 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: of the d O J if Hillary turned out to 337 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: be the president and you had allowed that thing to proceed, 338 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: or even just be too tough on her. All right, 339 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: So we knew this, But then there's another added level. 340 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: It's not just oh, I don't want to get in 341 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: trouble with somebody who's the future president. There's the I 342 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: want to put my hand on this scale to help 343 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: her and defeat her opponent. And that's now where we 344 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: get more into the insurance policy and some of those 345 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: other texts. Right, one thing to say, gosh, Hillary is 346 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: the machine, the Democrat machine, and I wonder what's gonna 347 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: happen here if we actually do our jobs. Still an 348 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: advocation of duty, destruction of the the rule law. We'll talk 349 00:19:48,200 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: more about it. M. He's holding the line for America, 350 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: buck Sex in his back to read all of the texts, Uh, 351 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: it's clear that they did not want her charged. They 352 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: wanted her to be the president of United States. Um, 353 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: they really really didn't. Well, Donald Trump the President United States. 354 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: And they concede throughout these texts that they did things 355 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: differently in this investigation from any other investigation that they 356 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: were part of. You may remember, as I do, Jim 357 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Comey telling us that the FBI doesn't give a wit 358 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: about politics. He he loved to tell us how a 359 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: political the bureau was. Uh. And here we have these texts. 360 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: Of course, our friends on the left say, well, these 361 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: are texts between two lovers. Yeah, that's right. You're much 362 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 1: more likely to tell the truth when you don't think 363 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: anybody else is watching. This. I think is the unvarnished 364 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: truth of how they viewed both her, him and the 365 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: investigation and how all they wanted it to turn out. 366 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, Tucker, all of this is done before 367 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: she was ever, so the fix was in. Unfortunately before 368 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: they even interviewed the target of the investigation. Trayd Right, everybody, 369 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: we know now that what we suspected all along, what 370 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: we thought all along, it's just irrefutably true. Hillary gotta 371 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: pass because of politics, and Trump is being ambushed and 372 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: stymied and harassed because of politics. And when the d 373 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: o J is doing the harassing, and when the d 374 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: o J is the one that's being used as a 375 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: weapon of policy or a weapon for policy reasons, for 376 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: political reasons, it's unacceptable. It's really a frightening place for 377 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: the country to be. And I think that of all 378 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: the of all the things that Trump has exposed by 379 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: just being who he is and being in office, obviously 380 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: the media is unhinged. Pro leftist, progressive sympathies at the 381 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: top of the list. But we expected that. I don't. 382 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: I don't think we could have known until Trump became 383 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: president and we've had to go through now this first year. 384 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: We could not have known that they would try and 385 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: end his presidency and that the d o J would 386 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: be a centerpiece in that. You'll notice they're not winning 387 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: the argument against Trump that they would expect at this 388 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: point after a year. Oh Trump's you know, his UH 389 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: approval rating would be you know, complete garbage, and he's 390 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: on the way out and they're all excited for the midterms. 391 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: Democrats are praying for catastrophe right now because absent that, 392 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: they're not going to have a chance at winning the 393 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: House or the Senate, and they're starting to figure that 394 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: out and they're not gonna be able to take Trump 395 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: down with this complete sham of an investigation. So this 396 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: is where we are. Eight four or four nine, d Buck, 397 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: if you want to call me, got a bunch of lines. 398 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: Let's let's get to it. Evelyn in Greensboro. What's up, Evelyn, 399 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: Hi there, Buck. I want to tell you about an 400 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: experience I had last night. I called the two oh 401 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: two White House number because I wanted to talk about 402 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: the you know that I think American citizens should have 403 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: a right to know it's in their face and memo, 404 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: and I encouraged Congress to release it. Well, I dialed 405 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: the number and for at least three minutes, there was 406 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: dead air, no recording coming up, nothing. You would think 407 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: that it's not in use. But I'm determined and I 408 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: stuck to that number and I waited. Finally, three minutes later, 409 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: you get someone to say, welcome to this number or whatever. 410 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: Another two minutes of silence. Then finally somebody comes in 411 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: and says, it's a recording that if you have a 412 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: comment to make as a constituent, press this number, and 413 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: so on press that number. Waited long again, and then 414 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: the message finally comes through. If you want to talk 415 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: to your senator, um, you know, and so on. So yes, 416 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to my senator. I'm the North 417 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: Carolina and I wanted to talk to Senator bark Well. 418 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: I finally got through where I could leave a message, 419 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: and this is going close to ten minutes and not 420 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: my message waiting, and I finally said what I wanted 421 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: to and what I said was I felt that as Americans, 422 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: we have a right to know what's in it and 423 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: it should be released in that I'm sick of the 424 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: corruption we've had over the past eight years or even before, 425 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 1: and it's trying to get this government on the right 426 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: pay it for the people. And I just thanked them. 427 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: I gave him my name and that was it. But 428 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: if anybody else called that number and got these blank spaces, 429 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: they would hang up. And I'm wondering if that is 430 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: really planned. I don't know. I think it just sounds 431 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: like government and competence. Although I do feel like we've 432 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: all just experienced this process with you now, so I 433 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: it sounds like it's it's no fun to sit and wait, 434 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry that that was the case. Hopefully your 435 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: comment gets heard by somebody who will be able to 436 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: pass it along to the conresson I have. I'll be 437 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: honest with I have no idea how that comment line 438 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: works or any of that stuff. But good on you 439 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: for actually taking the initiative and making a phone call 440 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: and having your voice heard, and then having your voice 441 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: heard here on the show, Evelyn, which is coast to coast, 442 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, go ahead, just don't give up. We 443 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: won't give up. We're fighting. We're keeping our shields high here. 444 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: Thank you as always for calling in. Have a great weekend, Evelyn. 445 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: T J in Madrid, Ohio. I did not know there 446 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: wasn't Madrid, Ohio. I have learned something new. What's up, 447 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: t J. It's Madrid, Iowa. It's Madrid, real Madrid. That's 448 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: that's how we say it in Iowa. Are you serious? 449 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming it's like Madrid, Spain, right, I 450 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: mean that's how you spell it the exact same. But 451 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: if you guys say Madrid. So I was picturing for 452 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: a second. I was like, is this an enclave in 453 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: Ohio with lots of fantastic top us bars. It's Iowa too, 454 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: by the way. All right, call screener, got the wrong state. 455 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Now you make me look like I really don't know anything. 456 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: It's in Iowa, not in Ohio. You put the wrong 457 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: initials up. I'm not even gonna say who it is 458 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: because I don't want embarrass anybody. But it wasn't me, 459 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: all right, t J and I in Madrid, Iowa? Thank you, sir? 460 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Oh? I got a action movie 461 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: quote for you? Alrighty, hopefully hopefully don't call foul on it. 462 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: I guess if you get it right, and if I 463 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: get it right, then it's always a good quote. Yeah, yeah, 464 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: all right, pizza dude got thirty seconds. I got a 465 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: little bit more wise. Men say forgiveness is divine, but 466 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: never pay full price for half for late pizza. Ninja turtles, 467 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: you got alright? Al right? Whoa whoa settled down on 468 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: the the buzz there, guys, Come on, you're gonna um Yeah, no, 469 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: I I love the Ninja Turtle movies growing up, man, 470 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: I saw all of them. I used to watch the cartoons. 471 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: I was all about it. I was a Rafael fan, 472 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: you know. I never really liked that Leonardo too much 473 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: but too much of a kiss up I was. I 474 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: was a Rofaiel guy. I did think about doing a 475 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: Raffael from that movie, but Michael Angelo's hard to pass. 476 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: I think that's for the first version. That movie is 477 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: pretty good. Actually, a lot of parents thought it was 478 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: too violent at the time, and they had these demonstrations 479 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: if you remember where they were actually destroying teenage mutant 480 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: Ninja Turtle merchandise because they thought the movie was too violent. 481 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: Movie was kind of violent, but I thought it was good. 482 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: It was Jimson was involved. I got it came out 483 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: in nineties, so I don't think my parents had much 484 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: to say, but fair enough my friend will Shield say 485 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: and thank you very much for the call to j 486 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I learned something new Madrid. Iowa. There 487 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: we go. Yeah, a little random fact that I know 488 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: that none of you will care about, but I just 489 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: want to share it. Anyway. I'm pretty sure that Chuck Lori, 490 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: who was the guy the creator of two and a 491 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: half Men is until two and a half Men. One 492 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: of his biggest media credits was that he wrote the 493 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: theme song for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles digit Teenage Mutant 494 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: Ninja two Turtles. Yeah, that that's that's right. See I did. 495 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Teenage Turtles growing up. It 496 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. It was also at a time when 497 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: we all thought that like, if you did enough ninjitsu 498 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: and and enough you know, meditation and stuff, you could 499 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: beat up ten guys at once. It actually turns out 500 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: that you actually you have to like be in really 501 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: good shape and and learn how to fight to do that. 502 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: You can't just learn some moves and then you know, 503 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't really work that way for what I'm told anyway, 504 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: all right, enough of the teenage Munta Turtal. Sorry he 505 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: he just tapped into a part of my childhood there though. 506 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: I watched that stuff all the time. I saw all 507 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: the movies. I even saw the teenage Muntan Naturtle movie 508 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 1: where they got sent back to feudal Japan. So random, right. 509 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: That was three two Secret of the Use, in which 510 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: Vanilla Ice makes an appearance. Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go 511 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: was the song. I could probably do all the words 512 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: right now. So it was very special. Apparently I am 513 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: very special to all right, let's get into the next. 514 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Call Greg, my brother Greg out in Oklahoma City. What's up? Greg? 515 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: Fuck Uh? I just want to say stiel tide to 516 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: the team and to you too. Can we do? Can 517 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: we call you door kicker? Greg? We gotta come up 518 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: with an official nick name. I was gonna say door 519 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: kicker or snake eater. I don't know if you saw 520 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: by the way they we're actually eating snakes. Did you 521 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: see that? It was the greatest thing I've ever seen 522 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: in my life. Tell them, tell the folks what this is, 523 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: because it was on the Twitter. So Sec de Mattis 524 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: went to Indonesia and there are special forces, did a 525 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: demonstration of courage and strength and all sorts of crazy stuff. 526 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: They walked through fire and then they bit the head 527 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: off live cobras that they had wrapped around their next 528 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: it was the coolest thing ever. And I want to 529 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: go to war with those guys. If you're buying that, 530 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: I'll put live cobras. I'm down. These guys were literally 531 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: biting the heads off of cobras in front of our 532 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense, everybody as they like, we are, we 533 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: are badass. Look at what we're doing. It was wow, 534 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: it was so amazing. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Anyway, I'm 535 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: glad you saw that too. I was like, my gosh, 536 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: this can't be real. Oh it is. I want to 537 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: talk about the little immigration plan or proposal or whatever 538 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: they're going to call it right now, and I'm kind 539 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: of like you. I'm half in half in this. Obviously, 540 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: as an evangelical Christian, I want to help as many 541 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: people as possible. Um. So I like the plan of 542 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: helping dreamers that have three no fold of their own 543 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: are here in America. But the other half of me 544 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: knows the Democrats too well. And while they're complaining that 545 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: this is a quote white supremacist deal, whatever that nonsense means, 546 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: we all know that this is just one step in 547 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: their real goal of giving amnesty to twenty or thirty 548 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: or however many millions of to the illegal aliens that 549 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: are in this country. Um and so, on that side, 550 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: I know that if they we agree to this deal, 551 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: the next damnasties two years, four years down the road, 552 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: whenever they get a president Democrat in and so I 553 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: want to say no to this deal. And I honestly 554 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: just want to say no to dreamers. Maybe they can 555 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: get some sort of status to be you know, legally here, 556 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: but not citizens, because as we know, they're changed. They 557 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: they want to change the demographics of this country. Um, 558 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: you know too million in time if they have to. 559 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: This is a long game for them. Oh yeah, no, 560 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: it absolutely is. Look I agree with you. I also 561 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: feel Look, I'm I'm a sympathetic guy, man, I try to. 562 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: I don't want anybody unnecessarily to, you know, have their 563 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: hopes and dreams crushed. But at the policy level, and 564 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: when you're talking about rule of law stuff, you know, 565 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: there's no way to do this without making some people unhappy. 566 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: And I gotta put the interests and the long term 567 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: security and prosperity of my fellow Americans ahead of those 568 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: who are not not actually Americans. That's just the bottom line. 569 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: So Greg, thank you very much for calling him Man 570 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: Shields Hotti. You was always always gonna talk to my friend, Greg. Uh, 571 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna roll into a quick break your team. 572 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back more on immigration, for sure. I 573 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: didn't want to spend too much time on the he 574 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: here's the whole thing about the whether Trump thought about 575 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: firing Mueller. First of all, i'd be I'd be fine 576 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: with it. So there's that like, I'm like, yeah, fire him, 577 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: this is a joke that investigation should stop. There always 578 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: He's not gonna do it because it would I don't know. 579 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the media freaks out so much. Is there 580 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: even a different level of freak out for them to 581 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: go to? You know what I mean? Is Jim Acosta 582 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: gonna like show up in the in the West Wing 583 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: dressed in I don't know, a clown suit or something. Well, 584 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: there you go. What are they gonna do to show 585 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: their additional displeasure if you had Trump actually fire Mueller. 586 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see it, So I'm okay with it. 587 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: That's why people are like, oh, he at least he 588 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: didn't do it. I'm like, yeah, and obstruction. I reject 589 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: that too. He's allowed to fire him, And they say, well, 590 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: it depends on the reason. When somebody can fire you 591 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: for any reason, unless you have proof that the reason 592 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: is what you think it is, you're never gonna be 593 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: able to say otherwise. So it's just kind of a 594 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: waste of everybody's time. Alright, alright, immigration, more of that 595 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: coming up, and also action movie quotes in effect. I 596 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: want to throw those my way. We gotta. I want 597 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: to do some new ones for the intro there. We've 598 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: got some better ones, um and whatever else is on 599 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: your mind, ate four or four buck, it's a Friday show. Well, 600 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: do have that, guess joining us in the third hour 601 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: on the cartels. I think it's gonna be a really 602 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: interesting interview and you've get a lot of background on 603 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: why is the violence in Mexico so bad right now? 604 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: What's happening there, and how is it affecting us here 605 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: in the States Because it is, I think you can 606 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: all guess the media is not exactly running around trying 607 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: to tell us how bad things are going south of 608 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: the border right now. With the Cartels for a whole 609 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: bunch of reasons, we'll be right back. But for a 610 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: permanent fix, I have to say, of our immigration laws 611 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: and dis respect, we're going to need Congress to act. 612 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: The American people have known for more than thirty years. 613 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: American people are right about this that our immigration system 614 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: is broken. It's intentionally designed to be blind to marriage. 615 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: It doesn't favor education or skill. It just favors anybody 616 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: who has a relative in America, and not necessarily a 617 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: close relative. That defies common sense. I've rejected usually the 618 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: formulation that immigration is broken in this country because it's 619 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: most of the problems I see it is an unwillingness 620 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: to enforce the laws that we already have. But I 621 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: would note that now the Trump administration and and Attorney 622 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: General Jeff Sessions has added into the mix not just 623 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: how do we deal with illegals, but how do we 624 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: deal with legal immigration as a part of the discussion, 625 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: which I think it's very important, And that's where you 626 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: can argue that it is it is broken. And you 627 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: see that that the formulation had been used by the 628 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: left to say it's broken, so we need to completely 629 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: reconstruct it more you know, more immigrants from more places 630 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: all over the world, you know more of what we're 631 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: already doing essentially, and now we can have a discussion 632 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: where we say, well, along a second, why would we 633 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: want chain migration over a merit based system? And the 634 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: good news is more people are finding out now I 635 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: think than ever before. Hey, Canada has a merit based system, 636 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: very multicultural place, very progressive, actually and many of its 637 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: political I know some of you, some of our Canadian 638 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: audience right now is like not here, but you know 639 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: what I mean some of the overall trends. I mean, 640 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: justin Trudeau, the guy's not exactly the second coming of Churchill. 641 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: But you've got immigration run by points systems in Australia, 642 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: in Canada, in a whole bunch of places, not not 643 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: racist countries, not racist policies. So why can't we adopt 644 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: some of what is done successfully by other First World, developed, 645 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: prosperous countries. Never mind the fact that you know, if 646 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: I showed up in the EU and said, hey, you know, 647 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: I want to be an EU citizen, doesn't work that way. 648 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: They wouldn't just be like, yeah, here's your passport. Right. 649 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: It's actually pretty hard from what I understand, And that's 650 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: if you're trying to do it the right way, and 651 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: you've got a degree and some skills, maybe you can 652 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: ring the bear. It's still hard. Anyway. Let's get into 653 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: some more of our calls. Here. Brian in Worcester, Massachusetts, 654 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: I know how to pronounce it. What's up, Brian? Hey Buck, 655 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: how are you doing tonight? I'm good? Thank you for 656 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: your call. Hey. You know this whole doctor deal that 657 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: Trump put out. I think it's actually politically a pretty good, uh, 658 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: pretty good idea that they put the Democrats in the 659 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: situation where they have to reject amnesty. And I think 660 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: the dreamers are going to start to see that and 661 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: start wondering, you know, what they're really up to. Well, okay, 662 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: so I was gonna go into this in just a moment. 663 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: But this is good because you're gonna help us transition. 664 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: What do you think they're gonna do? They're gonna the 665 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: Democrats will reject amnesty. I'm confused, absolutely, because it's Trump's deal. 666 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: They don't want a Republican deal to go. Okay, so yes, 667 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: I get it. Again, I don't mean enough. I'm sorry. 668 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: Just this is what I was talking to Mike and 669 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: the rest of the team here a second ago, And 670 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: this is what we were discussing, which is, could this 671 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: be Trump showing that they won't even just they won't 672 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: take it just because Trump is offering it. Do you 673 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen with Warren? Oh? Yeah, Elizabeth 674 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: Warren is already rejecting it, so was Mackie. You know, 675 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: so I'm they're they're definitely going against this whole deal 676 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: just because it's from Trump is seeing it's you know that, 677 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: basically because of the wall. But with the Dreamers, they don't. 678 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: They care less about the wall than they do about 679 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: their own amnesty. All right, excellent call, Brian, Thank you. 680 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into this more rap of the break. Everybody, 681 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: stare right there. He's back with you now, because when 682 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: it comes to the fight for truth, the fuck never stops. 683 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. Trump's immigration proposal 684 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: is out there and some of the base are upset. 685 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to count myself in that number. I 686 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: don't think this is a good deal if it goes 687 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: through as offered now. A negotiation is a series of 688 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: discussions that involved changes, compromises, concessions. I'm not sure what 689 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: the end result of this will be, and there could 690 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: be some gamesmanship, certainly on both sides. But Trump may 691 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: see this as an opportunity. There may be an opportunity 692 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: here for Trump, whether he intended it that way or not. 693 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: Let me explain. And I believe one of our previous 694 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: callers was was alluding to this, what if this is 695 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: unacceptable to Democrats out of hand right away. What if 696 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden and I think we're seeing this 697 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: happen right now. The Dreamer component of this is clearly 698 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: just the first step. This may be the negotiation over immigration, 699 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: over the deferred Action for childhood arrival population those covered 700 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: in that program. This may be the moment that what 701 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: I have been warning about all along, that this is 702 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 1: just the beginning of much more, that there will be 703 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: a mass amnesty and there will be more demands and 704 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: concessions on top of that that this will be This 705 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: will be exposed because of the offer that is too 706 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: generous for many on the Trump side of things in 707 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: terms of what it concedes to the other side. From 708 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: the outset, which is that there would be amnesty for 709 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: one point eight million or so illegal aliens who are 710 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: covered under the DOCCA program, I would note that that's 711 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: a there's a lot of people that would be allegedly 712 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: or apparently falling into the specific categorization of being brought 713 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: here before they were eighteen in a certain period of time. 714 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: That's a lot. When that happened, there's a lot of people, right. 715 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: I just would know how much checking was there of 716 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 1: who gets covered under the doctor program that applies for it. 717 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: I would evenly bet very little. But here's what we're 718 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: already seeing. The other side isn't saying, Wow, Trump might 719 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: be Trump might be breaking a campaign promise. Here, great, 720 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: let's go into this with good facion, faith negotiation. No. Now, 721 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: the extreme elements, the extremest elements of the Democrat progressive 722 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: left on immigration are being exposed right now. You're seeing 723 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: more and never missing an opportunity to pander to the 724 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: most progressive parts of the Democrat Party. You have Nancy 725 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: Pelosi making this just explicitly a racial issue. She says, 726 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: while I'm on the subject of Dreamer, since last night 727 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: the President put forth a plan. Let me just say 728 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: what I said last night. That plan is a campaign 729 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: to make America white again. It's a plan that says 730 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: over of the current legal immigration will be cut back, 731 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: that many people will be sent out of the country. 732 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: Very interesting. Nancy Pelosi, who is just an utter propagandist, 733 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: who has no moral or policy corps to speak of, right, 734 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: just with whatever will chase power for the Democrat left. 735 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: However she can, in every way that she can, does 736 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: not realize that it was and if an official written 737 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: promise of Teddy Kennedy, who was involved in the creation 738 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: of most of our current immigration policy back with the 739 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: Immigration Act of nine in sixty five. I think it 740 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 1: was so that this would not be used to alter 741 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: the ethnic composition of the country. That was that was 742 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: the lion of the Democrat Party, right, the lion of 743 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: chap Aquittic Teddy Kennedy. That was what he was pushing 744 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: for back then. But now it's very interesting, isn't it. 745 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: You'll have MSNBC and others that will they openly celebrate 746 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: the demographic change in the country. Is that that that 747 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: that's an inherently good thing? And if anybody says, well, 748 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: I kind of like the way America has been up 749 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: until this point. I don't think we should keep up 750 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: ending this and and changing it. They're considered that's racist. 751 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,720 Speaker 1: Now we're being told that's racist. Oh okay, So that's 752 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: where this is going to come down to you. I 753 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: would know. That's also why the media jumped on the 754 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: Trump blank whole comments so much, because they're trying to 755 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: make this a racial issue in the hopes that they 756 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: know they're not going to scare away Trump's based on this, 757 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: but they can pressure enough undecided or persuadable voters that 758 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: in the midterms this will pay off for them. They 759 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: prefer the moral blackmail of support our near open borders 760 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: policies and the lawlessness that comes with a legal immigration 761 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: or else you're a racist. That's that, that's the moral 762 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: blackmail that they are offering to people, or that they 763 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: are threatening people with. Right, you better support us or else. 764 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: And then I saw some of the recent responses from 765 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: dreamer advocacy groups, which it's just it's amazing that this 766 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: is where we are in this debate, in this discussion. 767 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: These are people who are in violation of US law. 768 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: That that is a fact. And somebody, whether it's them 769 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: or their parents, knowingly violated US law for the very 770 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 1: clear advantage of being in this country. This is being 771 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: in a whole lot of other countries, right being in 772 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: being in America, just being here is a special thing, 773 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: and no one will be held account to account for it. 774 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: That's what they're planning. That's what the only acceptable outcome 775 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: is from the dreamer perspective. They can't be held to account, 776 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: their parents can't be held to account, and all the 777 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: people that have been waiting for years, even for decades 778 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: to come into America. Legally, they're just chumps. According to 779 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: the Dreamers, they're just you know, sorry, you couldn't walk here, 780 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: so stinks to be you. That's what they're saying. It's 781 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: even worse than that. There's a group out out there 782 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: called United We Dream, which is the largest Dreamer advocacy group, 783 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: and they have called Trump's offer to legalize one point 784 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: eight million and even possibly give them citizenship. Everybody. They 785 00:45:55,320 --> 00:46:00,240 Speaker 1: have called Trump's offer a quote white supremacist ransom note 786 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: end quote white supremacist Ransomly, you'll notice Nancy Pelosi also 787 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: saying this is a campaign to make America white again. 788 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: They are trying to morally blackmail and and to browbeat 789 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 1: the American people into thinking that any restrictions on immigration 790 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: from poorer parts of the world is based in racism, 791 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: not based in the economic realism of we can't support 792 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: a giant welfare ward in this country that is endless. 793 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 1: That is just the constant uh importation of the developing 794 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: world's problems. That's actually an issue for us. We do 795 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: have a debt bomb in this country. I don't talk 796 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: about it that much because it will become a boring 797 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: topic if I hit it all the time. But yes, 798 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: we will eventually run into problems if we lose our 799 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: status as the reserve currency, whether it comes through an 800 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: unsustainable debtload, or through cryptocurrency, or any number of other problems. 801 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what the economic future of this country 802 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: looks like. Nobody does if if any of those things happen, 803 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: there's some very unsettling scenarios that could play out. But 804 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: bringing in large larger numbers. Even then, we already have 805 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: of individuals from around the world who don't speak the language, 806 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: have no attachment to the culture, have no attachment to 807 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: the traditions and history of rule of law in this country, 808 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: and just view this as somehow they're right because Democrats 809 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 1: tell them. It is because it benefits benefits Democrats power 810 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: and their base. That is not a recipe for success. 811 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: But the tactics of the Democrat Party are being exposed now. 812 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: We are seeing it here. You have Dreamers that are 813 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: said this Dreamer organization that is calling it a white 814 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 1: supremacist ransom. Note, so what does that mean? Now? It 815 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,799 Speaker 1: has to be dreamers. The legal aliens is actually what 816 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: they are called illegal aliens covered under DOCCA I'll say 817 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: coverner DOCCA, because that is a program of the federal 818 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: government that is a real thing. Legal aliens covered under DOCTA, 819 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: their parents and family members of their parents, and family 820 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: members of their parents, family members and the family members 821 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 1: of the DACA recipients who are not currently in the country. 822 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: And how many million are we at right now? You think, folks, 823 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: at one point it's going to turn into about six 824 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: or seven real fast. Does anybody seriously think if we 825 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 1: legalize six or seven million people that are all tied 826 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: into this, that then you're not gonna have to You're 827 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 1: not gonna be forced politically to legalize the other three 828 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: or four that are already in the country. And and 829 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: by the way, and now they get to bring their 830 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,560 Speaker 1: family members to that aren't already here. I mean, this 831 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: is what we're facing now. You see this, They've are 832 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: They've tipped their hand. Trump has made an offer that 833 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: is too generous for much of his base that people 834 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: I know are screaming about is a terrible deal. Of 835 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 1: terrible deal. I've been a little more circumspect about. Okay, 836 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: I see problems, but I want to know how this 837 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: plays out. I I mean, there's there's no there's really 838 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: only two options. Trump either says, yeah, we'll do something 839 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: to legalize the doctor recipients, or Trump says, forget the 840 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: Democrats were going on our own here, We're gonna ramp 841 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: things through and go all the way. I know a 842 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: lot of you are like, yeah, Buck, that's the option 843 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 1: you should do. But those are the options. But we're 844 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 1: seeing that the first isn't even really an option because 845 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats because of the demands that are being made, 846 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: And what will that tell us? Where does the immigration 847 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: debate go when it's not even enough to give Democrats 848 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: one point eight million legalized illegals because they want they 849 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: want the whole thing that they're taking a maximum only position. 850 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: That's what I think we're heading for right now, because 851 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: you'll note that if we end change migration and change 852 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 1: the legal immigration system, that's that's getting the issue in 853 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: a way that not a lot of Republicans were even 854 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: talking about in the pre Trump era at all. That 855 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: is big Democrats know this. They've never intended The whole 856 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: DOCTA thing is a fraud. They have never intended to 857 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: just apply legal protection to people that were brought here 858 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: as children. DOCCA is the trojan horse for the rest 859 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: of the amnesty and pro illegal program. So how do 860 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: we deal with that, that's the truth of it. How 861 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: do we deal with it? Well, Trump is putting forward 862 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: this policy which will be negotiated and dealt with by 863 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: members of Congress, and it will be litigated out in 864 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: the media at some level, and is forcing the other 865 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 1: side to expose what their true agenda here really is. 866 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: But that's what I think is so interesting about this 867 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: current discussion that Trump has said, Okay, fine, I'll do 868 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: something that would even someone even say, I'll even sell 869 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 1: out my base to get a deal done if I 870 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: have to. Does he know or or whether he knows 871 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: or not, this seems to be what's happening that the 872 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: other side comes back and says, I don't care if 873 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: you'll do one point eight million, it's got to be 874 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: more than that. It's got to be one point eight 875 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: million as a down payment on a twelve million person amnesty, 876 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 1: and you have to keep chain migration, so that twelve 877 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 1: million person amnesties really more like twenty or thirty. Goodbye, 878 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: my fellow Americans. Too limited government, to rule of law, 879 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: to limitations on the welfare state too. I mean just 880 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be a free for all of leftist 881 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: politics for as long as as far as the I 882 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 1: can see, and as long as anybody can even imagine. 883 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: That's what's at stake here. This is this is very big. 884 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: This is not a minor policy issue at all, and 885 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: I want everyone to have clear eyes on it. All right, 886 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: we'll be back with your calls here in just a minute. 887 00:51:52,800 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: Stay with me. Our goal is not to see how 888 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: many people we can arrest. That's not what our purpose is, 889 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: but to in the illegality and to restore in this 890 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: country a legal system of immigration. And we want people 891 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: to apply and if and wait their turn, and if 892 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: they're not selected, they are not entitled to come into 893 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 1: the country illegally. It's just that simple. Once that's established, 894 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: people will start, I believe, in large numbers from making 895 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 1: this dangerous attempt. Perhaps more importantly, the wall will send 896 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: a message to the world that in the United States 897 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: of America, we enforced the laws of this country. Attorney 898 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: General Jeff Sessions is probably most valuable on this issue 899 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 1: of immigration. This is the one that he has the 900 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: most useful and deep knowledge on it, especially as compared 901 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: to other senior officials in any administration, and your this 902 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: is gonna get into be this is gonna be fight 903 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: a fight ahead. I would note that Time magazine, which 904 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 1: is still a thing, apparently I didn't know. I thought 905 00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 1: maybe it had folded, or I mean it should have, 906 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: but it hasn't yet. Apparently Time magazine has on its 907 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: cover we are Americans with the asterisk just not illegally, 908 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 1: and then there's a photo. I'm assuming that they're all 909 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: illegals in the cover, I mean, because they're saying we 910 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 1: are Americans, just not legally. And this is now part 911 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: of it. The controlling of the messaging. The don't use 912 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 1: the term illegal alien, say uh, say illegal immigrant, and 913 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 1: then say undocumented immigrant, and now say dreamer. It's all 914 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: this is all a form of perception management. This is 915 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 1: information operation. This is mind control, folks. That's what they're doing. 916 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: By controlling the language, they control the perception and this 917 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 1: notion that it doesn't matter anymore that you have people 918 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: who are in the country illegally. This has to be rejected. 919 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: If amnesty is okay, now, I need to know why 920 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: amnesty for another ten million in another ten years is 921 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: not a moral obligation of this country. Because it's we're 922 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: not deporting a whole lot of people that are in 923 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 1: the country right now, obviously, so why want more people? 924 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: Just come? All right, We've got a whole bunch of 925 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: calls coming in. Now, let's get let's go. Okay, Felix 926 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, you've been awhile, Felix. How you doing, hello, 927 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: Buck Shields High Fields side Felix. You know what, this 928 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: is a very frustrating issue, you know, And I think 929 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: I have the answer for it. There is a third option. 930 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,680 Speaker 1: One stock expires, they just start enforcing the law of 931 00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: the land. Yeah. That would also be an option, wouldn't it. Yeah, 932 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: And then you can blame the Democrats for everyone that 933 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 1: gets deported. And you know, the other thing that nobody 934 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: points out is that I have a number of friends 935 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 1: who legally emigrated became citizens of the United States from Nigeria, 936 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 1: from the Dominican rep public, you know. And the people 937 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: who are legal immigrants to naturalize US citizens, they have 938 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,760 Speaker 1: no love loss for legal aliens. Yeah, because they remember 939 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 1: what it was like to go through the process, which, look, 940 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: I admit is is a difficult than pretty owner's process 941 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 1: in a lot of cases to come into the country legally, 942 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: and you've got people that are look, it's it's line cutting. 943 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: You know, how many of us they Felix, thank you 944 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,080 Speaker 1: for calling him brother? How many of us have been 945 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: a situation where you know, you're waiting in line for 946 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, an airport security or a movie ticket line 947 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: or something, and people skip the line. It annoys you, 948 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: doesn't it It's not cool. It's wrong. Well, immigration, that's 949 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: what illegal aliens have, don't They have skipped, They have 950 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,359 Speaker 1: cut in front of the line. There's a big line 951 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: together to the country, and it's not it's not supposed 952 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 1: to be a big charitable enterprise. I mean, I know 953 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: that we've been we've been fed all this stuff and 954 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,359 Speaker 1: doing the jobs Americans won't do. The The storyline keeps 955 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: shifting too. You know. Now's if you don't if you 956 00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: don't approve of mass amnesty and more mass migraine and 957 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 1: legal and illegal in the country, you're racist. Okay. Already 958 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: we have a debt burden and that's probably unsustainable discussion 959 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: for another day. We have taxation that's still even with 960 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 1: the tax cuts from the Trump administration, still paying way 961 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: too much in taxes. So and I just would note 962 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,360 Speaker 1: that all this stuff that they're saying about illegals, you 963 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,240 Speaker 1: know how one illegal? Come on, don't break up families 964 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 1: and all this. You can say to people who don't 965 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: want to pay their taxes. What would happen if Republican 966 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: administration came in and said, we're just not going to 967 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: force the law against people who just really feel like 968 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,319 Speaker 1: they shouldn't pay federal income taxes. I know a lot 969 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: of people that would probably say, you know what, here, 970 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 1: I'll send you the percentage that goes towards the military 971 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 1: and and you know, my Social Security and Medicaid, Medicare 972 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: and the rest of it. You know that's on you. 973 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: I know a whole lot of people probably just say, 974 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,279 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not paying I pay taxes, my 975 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 1: buy stuff, I pay taxes all the time. I'm not 976 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 1: paying income tax If you're not gonna come after me 977 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: with the with the feds, what would happen then? Oh? No, 978 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,319 Speaker 1: trust me, they would love. They're still locking people up 979 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: for that. But you know, you better pay your taxes 980 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: or else you get to prison. You better obey federal law, 981 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: or else you go to prison. Unless you're illegal, then 982 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 1: then you get a pass and not just on being 983 00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: here illegally. I would note document fraud, not filing tax returns, 984 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. Different laws for them, folks, different laws. 985 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: It's just true. We have Oh no, actually I can't 986 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: because I've got about thirty seconds, So we'll take some 987 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: more of your calls after this. I've got coming up, 988 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: you own Grillo on the cartels. That will be the 989 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: next hour. It's gonna be a really interesting conversation. I've 990 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: been doing a lot of research on it, and there's 991 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: short version is that there's a blood bath going on 992 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: in Mexico with the cartels right now, and very few 993 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 1: people are talking about it. It's really the worst it's 994 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: ever been, the worst it's ever been. Everyone think about 995 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,959 Speaker 1: that and what that means for us and the drug 996 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 1: trade into this country. We had sixty thou people roughly 997 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: who died of opioid overdoses last year. Some percentage of 998 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: that tied to cartel activity. I mean, I can't tell 999 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: you what it is. I'm looking into it right now. 1000 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: We'll also be joined by Emily's a Noddy to talk 1001 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,919 Speaker 1: about some of the Me Too movement moments from this week, 1002 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: and we'll take some of your calls. Eight four, four, 1003 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: buck eight Fight to five. Can't put the show's half done. 1004 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:33,040 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Other shows just talk at you. 1005 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 1: In the Freedom Hunt, we have a mission. We fight 1006 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: for the truth in a team effort, and buck us 1007 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: back with our next play. I don't even know if 1008 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: it's worth me talking about, but I guess I've started, 1009 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: So I'll just have a couple of quick words to 1010 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: say on it. That you had this guy who wrote 1011 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 1: the Fire and Fury book Wolf already discrediting himself left 1012 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: and right, but then on top of it, now he's 1013 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 1: apparently part of this effort to spread a rumor out 1014 00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: there that there was a an alleged affair with Nicky Haley, 1015 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: U S Ambassador United Nations and with Nicky Haley and 1016 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: President Trump. Look, I mean, which is just completely preposterous, 1017 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: in a disgrace. And yeah, I I just here you 1018 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: have a woman who is doing such a good job 1019 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: for the administration and is a real threat to the 1020 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,480 Speaker 1: Democrats going forward, because she's going to be a force 1021 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: to be reckoned with should she choose to run for 1022 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: any number of offices, including I think the presidency. And 1023 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: that you just have these journalists who are to to 1024 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,600 Speaker 1: borrow in O'Reilly is um here? Smear merchants. You know, 1025 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: that's just what they do. This is just who they are, 1026 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 1: and that they would spread this garbage about Ambassador Haley 1027 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: just goes to show you that their whole Oh you know, 1028 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 1: the the me too, the me tooisms of many journalists 1029 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: are largely driven by politics. So there we have it. Uh, 1030 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: let's get into the calls here. You got a lot 1031 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: of calls. When I get into some of them. Kent 1032 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: in Greensboro, North Carolina. What's going on, Kent? Oh, not 1033 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: too much, Buck, I like the show. Thanks for taking 1034 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,000 Speaker 1: my call. Thank you you, uh, you know, being a 1035 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: X you know c I a X analysts, I believe, 1036 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: correct actually, and you'll talk about it from toime to 1037 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 1: tome I believe. One time. I remember I can't remember 1038 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 1: exactly what the quote was, but you said something to 1039 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: the effect of it, it's like a factory for mediocricy 1040 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: or something that I think I did say. It is 1041 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: a mediocrity factory. Mediocrity factory about the federal government in general. 1042 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: But yes, that is true. Well, yeah, bureaucracy is what 1043 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: you were talking about. You know, CEA is such a 1044 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 1: common topic you talk about anything on the Internet and 1045 01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: you research anything, the CIA clumps up and then you 1046 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,880 Speaker 1: you try to understand the CIA and how it functions 1047 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: and all this sort of stuff, and you know, you 1048 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: have these people over here saying that you know it's 1049 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: run by Satan himself, and then you have this group 1050 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 1: over here saying that you know they don't do any wrong. 1051 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: And can I just interject one thing here real quick? 1052 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Ken isn't an interesting how? How? It's it's kind of 1053 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: it's a commonplace to think the c I a for 1054 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of particularly leftists in this country. 1055 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: But do you think the CIA is capable of any evil? Right? 1056 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean conspiracy theories, But the CIA gets so much traction. 1057 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 1: But that a few FBI and do O J folks 1058 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: may have been trying to help Hillar win the election. 1059 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 1: That's just crazy, right it is? Think about this, right? 1060 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Why is the FBI beyond reproach but the CIA get 1061 01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: trashed with nonsense all the time? Right? Right? I don't 1062 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: know not. My question is, though, what would be well 1063 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: from your experience one of some good public information on 1064 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: the CIA that you would you believe is it is 1065 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: somewhat realistic as far as how it functions, and it's 1066 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: it's pros and cons and all that sort of stuff. 1067 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: That's that's a very good I'm sorry, Ken, it's a 1068 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: very good question. I'll give you a few a few 1069 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: quick answers for an overview. There's a book that I 1070 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: actually read before I started the agency on a friends 1071 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 1: recommendation called Inside the CIA by Ronald Kessler, and it's 1072 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,200 Speaker 1: very it's a very good, thorough overview. Maybe has had 1073 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: to be updated. I think it was published like twenty 1074 01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 1: years ago. There's probably an updated version, but it's it's 1075 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: a good book. Um So, Inside the CI by Ronald 1076 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Kessler is a nice overview of the agency. And then 1077 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,439 Speaker 1: I would just say pick some of the memoirs. There's 1078 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of them of senior folks in the 1079 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: agency in recent years. I mean, I any of the 1080 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 1: any of the big memoirs will give you a pretty 1081 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 1: good sense of what's going on there. So you know, 1082 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,439 Speaker 1: I wouldn't get the controversial memoirs are the ones where 1083 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 1: like they didn't if somebody didn't get properly cleared or something. 1084 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: I'd stay away from that just because there's a lot 1085 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: of there's gonna be a lot of sensationalist chest stumping 1086 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: in those ones. But there's there's so many I can't 1087 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: even think of any up top of I have it 1088 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 1: basically all the top. All the directors in recent years 1089 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 1: write books, So if you want to know what's going on, 1090 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: I would write I would read one of the director's books. 1091 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: But Kessler is a journalist, so you could read his 1092 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: overview and that would be Those would all be good 1093 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: places to go. Um, there's the book Left of Boom. 1094 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 1: That's a good one. I really enjoyed that one. That's 1095 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: a memoir. You can read that book. Uh, Jawbreaker, excellent book. Um, 1096 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: So I would read that one, Jawbreaker Left of Boom, 1097 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: or two of the memoirs I like more so I 1098 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 1: would check those out, and then Kessler's inside the CIA 1099 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: for an overview, and then eventually buck Sexton's version of 1100 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: the Intelligence community. But that's gonna take me some time 1101 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: to write. Shields. HI can't thank you for calling in. 1102 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: I hope that answered the question. Um, folks, I know 1103 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:53,720 Speaker 1: I said I'd take more calls, but actually I just 1104 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 1: realized we've got to get in just a few minutes here. 1105 01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 1: We've gotta get to Uh, Emily's a naughty so if 1106 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: you don't mind being paid it, we can hopefully get 1107 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 1: in some calls coming up after that interview. But then 1108 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: we've also got you on Grillo joining us from from 1109 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 1: Mexico on the cartels, So I just want to let 1110 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be a bit of a of 1111 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: a hold there. We've got Emily coming up to talk 1112 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: about some me too stuff. Emily is always a fun chat, 1113 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: so we're looking forward to that. And then, like I said, 1114 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: next hour, we're spending at least at least a segment, 1115 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: probably a couple of segments with your own Grillo from 1116 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Mexico to talk about the cartels and the blood bath 1117 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 1: right now between the cartels and that's killed about thirty 1118 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: thousand people last year. Stay with me, we'll get into that. 1119 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 1: More cryptocurrency, my friends, it is in the news once again, 1120 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: and this time for reasons that are concerning to those 1121 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: of us who dabble in a little crypto investing. I 1122 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: will just say this, I've been speaking to as many 1123 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 1: of folks out there as I can who understand finance 1124 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: and have some sense also of the techn oology involved here. 1125 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 1: For those of you who are like, how does this 1126 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 1: affect me or why do I care if you're not 1127 01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: investing in crypto personally, And I'm not even sure investing 1128 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: is really the right term for this Bitcoin and ethereum 1129 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and these other cryptocurrencies that are out there, all of 1130 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: them together. Based just on the volatility, the up and 1131 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,280 Speaker 1: down moves of the market day to day, it feels 1132 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: a lot more like gambling. You can see this happen, uh, 1133 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,800 Speaker 1: any day of the week, You'll look at a cryptocurrency 1134 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 1: and it might be up, down, up thirty. This is 1135 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: not like the stock market. This is not long term 1136 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: uh stuff I'm talking about in terms of the up 1137 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: and down movement and the the long term implications of this, 1138 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 1: as I've discussed briefly on the show, are a complete revamp, 1139 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: a kind of redo of the global financial market. Because 1140 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,439 Speaker 1: if this works, as some conceptually believe that it will, 1141 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: now there are others who say this is just a 1142 01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: giant bubble and its world's greatest Ponzi scheme, And there's 1143 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,720 Speaker 1: a lot of doubters out there. And any time I 1144 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: will note, any time you see a big drop, particularly 1145 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 1: in bitcoin, social media is just full of people saying, 1146 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: see you told you guys. Meanwhile, there are other people 1147 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: that are driving around in videos with their Lamborghini saying, yeah, 1148 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 1: I just invested in bitcoin years ago, right, So who's right? 1149 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't know yet. All I know is that Japanese 1150 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: a Japanese cryptocurrency exchange lost more than five hundred million 1151 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: dollars two hackers um that just hitting today. This courtesy 1152 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,360 Speaker 1: of CNBC. The exchange is called coin check, and it's 1153 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: said earlier today that it had lost that five three 1154 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,440 Speaker 1: million of its n e M coins were sent to 1155 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: another account around three am local time. The stolen coins 1156 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: worth about fifty eight billion yen, and coin check management 1157 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: says that it held the n e M coins and 1158 01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 1: a hot wallet, referring to a method of storage that 1159 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,040 Speaker 1: is linked to the internet. So this is You're gonna 1160 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: see a lot more of this because as these different 1161 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: crypto coins pop up, this is relying on technology that 1162 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,040 Speaker 1: so few people understand. I actually can tell you I 1163 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,440 Speaker 1: heard from a friend of mine. We have a mutual 1164 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 1: acquaintance who is literally a PhD in astrophysics from I 1165 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 1: can't remember if it's Harvard Yale, I think from Harvard's. 1166 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: He's a PhD in astrophysics from Harvard and he was 1167 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,800 Speaker 1: talking about crypto and he says that even he's like, 1168 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't know somebody who has a particularly robust understanding 1169 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: of highly complicated mathematics and computer science. And he was 1170 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 1: just like, I maybe it's maybe it's the future, or 1171 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's all a big joke. He can't really tell, 1172 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 1: but I would just say that this does feel a 1173 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: lot more like gambling. For those of you who don't 1174 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 1: know the way it works. Now, you can download on 1175 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: your smartphone and app and you transfer money from your 1176 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: bank out into that app. And by the way, I'm 1177 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 1: not encouraging anybody to do this because it is highly, 1178 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: highly risky, volatile stuff. That's a this is a totally 1179 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 1: you and you alone decision. But I'm just saying it's 1180 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 1: so easy to do it. You can download this app 1181 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you can start investing in 1182 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:20,639 Speaker 1: all these different cryptocurrencies. And you know, the old school 1183 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: investor mentality is you know, you buy some if you 1184 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: bought ge and last decade or so, it's been a really, 1185 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: really bad investment. But you know, you buy a big company, 1186 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 1: you get dividends and it grows over time and smart 1187 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: long term investing pays off crypto coins. You know people 1188 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 1: I have friends who have made three, four, seven times 1189 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: on their money over the course of less than a year. 1190 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 1: And I mean if they've shown me their accounts, so 1191 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I've seen it and I'm just amazed at what's going 1192 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: on here. But you can't can't continue like this forever. 1193 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,400 Speaker 1: Something's gonna change. I don't know what it is. Uh. 1194 01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 1: And like I said, it is like gambling. And as 1195 01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,120 Speaker 1: long as somebody thinks about it in that way, I 1196 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: think they're on pretty safe ground. It's like you're going 1197 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: to a poker table and you could lose everything. It's 1198 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 1: not It's not safe long term investing. Some people would 1199 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:09,800 Speaker 1: come on and say, oh, well, I'm in it for 1200 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,680 Speaker 1: the long haul and great. You know, God bless them. 1201 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: If they're real believers in this, they know stuff that 1202 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have no idea how to gauge 1203 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 1: is really one way or the other. I do know 1204 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:25,759 Speaker 1: that the theoretical application for this that it would create 1205 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: an unfalsifiable, completely traceable and trustable that's really a word 1206 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 1: record of financial transactions that all you need access to 1207 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 1: is the Internet. That would change so much. Just think 1208 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 1: of right now, I don't know how many of you 1209 01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,400 Speaker 1: had this situation recently, but if you take your four 1210 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 1: oh one K from one company and you gotta move 1211 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: it to another one, I've had to deal with this. 1212 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,960 Speaker 1: They like want to send you a check, and I 1213 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: get it's all this a lot of middlemen and policies 1214 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,479 Speaker 1: and regulations and restrictions. If you had a perfect ledger 1215 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 1: that could not be hacked or falsified because the ledger 1216 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,680 Speaker 1: exists so to speak, on all the different computers that 1217 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 1: have it, so it would not be possible to just 1218 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: or I should say theoretically it's not possible to change 1219 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: it without each person along the chain knowing. Ah, then 1220 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,320 Speaker 1: you'd be able to transfer money and not have to 1221 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,880 Speaker 1: worry about all these middlemen, and it'll wildly changed the 1222 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 1: or dramatically better word than wildly dramatically changed the business 1223 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,439 Speaker 1: of brokerages and investment banks and all these kinds of places. 1224 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: So I think it's a really important technology. It's a 1225 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 1: fascinating just financial situation right now. But when I see 1226 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,160 Speaker 1: that five million dollars got hacked on that that's a 1227 01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: lot of money, folks. Somebody was able to steal five 1228 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars basically by sitting at their computer and 1229 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:49,560 Speaker 1: hacking something. That's you know, and when you when you 1230 01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 1: think about this versus you know, the old school way 1231 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,000 Speaker 1: to steal money was you gotta roll up in a 1232 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: car and you know, you got like a you got 1233 01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 1: a pistol and you say, you know, fill this bag 1234 01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,360 Speaker 1: with money and you could get shot at it all. 1235 01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 1: And that's for like, you know, maybe a hundred grand 1236 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 1: in cash and the register at the bank or wherever. Right, 1237 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 1: that's now the bad guys can just steal five. I 1238 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,360 Speaker 1: mean Hans Gruber had to take over the whole Nakatomi 1239 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,080 Speaker 1: tower in die Hard trying to get a few hundred 1240 01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,760 Speaker 1: million dollars in German bearer bonds. Yeah, that's right. I 1241 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 1: remember he wants to be on a beach, and now, 1242 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 1: Hans Booby, he could just be sitting on a beach 1243 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: somewhere with his laptop. The fictional character of Hans Gruber 1244 01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 1: hacking into one of these coin based exchange or cryptocurrency 1245 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: exchanges coin bas is one of them. And I guess 1246 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:40,960 Speaker 1: they think they'll catch him at some point. What if 1247 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 1: he's in a non extradition treaty country, Well, what are 1248 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 1: we really gonna do if there's a hacker and say 1249 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 1: North Korea that steals a few billion dollars of crypto, 1250 01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,240 Speaker 1: guess what, not a lot from what I can tell. 1251 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,400 Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm watching this one and I think 1252 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 1: this is I'd like to get another crypto expert on 1253 01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: here soon to talk about where all this is going, 1254 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 1: because we're talking now about gosh, I don't even know 1255 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: what the full scale of the value is, but I'm 1256 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the cryptos when you put it together, 1257 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars that sounded about. 1258 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,320 Speaker 1: That's what I think it is. And how many by 1259 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:14,840 Speaker 1: the way, you got any or any of you in 1260 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:20,639 Speaker 1: dabbling in the crypto? No smart, don't you know? Be careful. 1261 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 1: It's like it's like playing with fire. Friend of mine 1262 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: and I were talking about it earlier this week. We 1263 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,839 Speaker 1: both pulled our our exchange, you know o our crypto 1264 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: apps out and just like man, this is wild and 1265 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 1: no one even really understands the underhall. I say, nobody 1266 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 1: very if you believe I understand the underlying mathematics and 1267 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,720 Speaker 1: computer science behind it. But anyway, it is what it is. 1268 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into a discussion here in a few minutes. 1269 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,599 Speaker 1: We've got a guest coming up. We're gonna talk about 1270 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 1: the cartels. I have read this book Narcos or sorry, 1271 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 1: El Narco. Narcos is the TV show on Netflix El Narco, 1272 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: written by Jone Grilloh. It's a really good book, and 1273 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 1: I have been researching on my own, including looking up 1274 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,800 Speaker 1: different open source government documents and looking at what's going 1275 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 1: on with the cartels in Mexico. Because it's very bad 1276 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,240 Speaker 1: right now and you're not getting that sense from the 1277 01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 1: day to day news cycle. I'll give you some of 1278 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,479 Speaker 1: the statistics on the side of the break here, but 1279 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: it's as violent as it's ever been. It is violence 1280 01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 1: on a scale that is also uh affecting governance and 1281 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 1: the future governing institutions of Mexico. The cartels have spread 1282 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 1: their tentacles well beyond just the US. Mexico and the 1283 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,799 Speaker 1: America's cartels are actually making a lot of money sending drugs, 1284 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 1: and I'm talking Mexican based cartels, sending drugs to Europe, 1285 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 1: to Australia. Um. They have expanded. It's not just any 1286 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:53,759 Speaker 1: any one drug or few drugs. Pretty much every substance 1287 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,680 Speaker 1: that they can every illegal substance they can get a 1288 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 1: lot of money for on the black market. Meth Amphetamine 1289 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: has come huge. One of the big changes is actually 1290 01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 1: that meth amphetamine because it's not it doesn't require cultivation 1291 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: of land, and all you need are some chemists, and 1292 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 1: there are some young chemists who don't have a good 1293 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 1: way of making money in some of these cities like 1294 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,679 Speaker 1: Guadalajara in Mexico, and it's very easy for the cartels 1295 01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 1: to come along and hire them those you have seen 1296 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,439 Speaker 1: breaking bad. That's much more like the real, real life 1297 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,960 Speaker 1: situations than a lot of people know. And they are 1298 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: able to flood the market with meth amphetamine tremendous amount 1299 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,360 Speaker 1: of money in that and it's a lot harder to 1300 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:37,560 Speaker 1: track and find um because there's no no spray operations. 1301 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 1: It's not like you have to grow it. It's made 1302 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,639 Speaker 1: in a lab. But also the people that are involved 1303 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,920 Speaker 1: in the meth trade in Mexico, the cartels that have 1304 01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: been involved in that were more fringe players before who 1305 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,000 Speaker 1: didn't have some of the established ties of say they 1306 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: seen the Lower Cartel, which was and is still one 1307 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 1: of the biggest, but has been the the biggest and 1308 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 1: most enduring of the cartels in Mexico, and there's been 1309 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 1: this shift in power. Anyway, there's a lot going on 1310 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 1: with the cartel wars, and part of this that I 1311 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,880 Speaker 1: want to understand what's going on in Mexico because I 1312 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: also then want to look at how is this affecting us. 1313 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 1: You know, we see these stories about MS thirteen, which 1314 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 1: I know is based out of Al Salvador and Honduras, 1315 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 1: but it's also all over the United States. Started really 1316 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 1: in Al Salvador and Honduras, but it's been around for 1317 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 1: quite a while. But there's this huge surge of opioid 1318 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 1: deaths in this country. How much of that is tied 1319 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:36,760 Speaker 1: to uh el narco, meaning the cartel activity. I'm willing 1320 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,599 Speaker 1: to bet that there's much more of this happening than 1321 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 1: we're hearing about, and that much of the drug violence 1322 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 1: that's occurring in cities across the United States has some 1323 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 1: tie into the Mexican based cartels, and just for political reasons, 1324 01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,759 Speaker 1: for reasons of political correctness, I think, and even bigger 1325 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,479 Speaker 1: than all that the immigration debate right now and securing 1326 01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,680 Speaker 1: the border, you're not being told what is really happening 1327 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 1: in Mexico with the cartels there's some reporting on it 1328 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,759 Speaker 1: here and there, but there's nothing like the comprehensive narrative 1329 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,400 Speaker 1: creation that would affect how we vote in this country. 1330 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,519 Speaker 1: So I want to get into and what we think 1331 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 1: should be sound policy. So I wanted to get into 1332 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 1: all of that with you. We'll have Yon calling in 1333 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: from Mexico. He's gonna be calling us from Mexico. This 1334 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 1: guy is, I mean, he's out there, he's on the streets, folks, 1335 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,680 Speaker 1: he's covering it. He's been on the cartels for a 1336 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,479 Speaker 1: long time, many many years. So we will have him 1337 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 1: joining us in just a few minutes. I think you're 1338 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 1: definitely gonna want to stick around for that, and then 1339 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,920 Speaker 1: we'll get back into the Friday swing of things. So 1340 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 1: stay right there. Last year, according to reports cited by 1341 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,599 Speaker 1: the Associated Press, Newsweek and others, was in fact the 1342 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:52,360 Speaker 1: worst year on record for murders in Mexico. It exceeded 1343 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: the previous record of twenty seven thousand inn Last year, 1344 01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 1: you had just shy of thirty thousand people twenty nine thousand, 1345 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,640 Speaker 1: one sixty eight murdered in Mexico. A vast majority of 1346 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: this violence directly from the drug war. But you're not 1347 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,920 Speaker 1: hearing a lot about the cartels these days, my friends, 1348 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering why that is. So I invited somebody 1349 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 1: who has deep expertise on the subject to join us 1350 01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: here on our Friday show, We have Yon Grillo with us. 1351 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Yone has reported on Latin America since two thousand and 1352 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,639 Speaker 1: one for international media outlets including The New York Times, 1353 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,320 Speaker 1: Time Magazine, Reuters, CNN, and others. His most recent book 1354 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 1: is Gangster war Lords, Drugs, Drug Dollars, Killing Fields, and 1355 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,920 Speaker 1: the New Politics of Latin America. He also has a 1356 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,760 Speaker 1: book El Narco, Inside Mexico's Criminal Insurgency, which I am 1357 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: almost finished with as of this week. You and great 1358 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,640 Speaker 1: to have you. Great to be here. So could you 1359 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:52,160 Speaker 1: just give me a an overview here because there's very 1360 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,879 Speaker 1: little coverage. I mean, there are some news outlets, obviously, 1361 01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,640 Speaker 1: you and other journalists in Mexico are putting out information, 1362 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: but I think the storyline that Mexico and had its 1363 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:08,439 Speaker 1: deadliest year on record for murders has been completely overlooked somehow. 1364 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,680 Speaker 1: What is going on right now with El Narco as 1365 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,760 Speaker 1: as you call it in Mexico, What's going on with 1366 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,599 Speaker 1: the cartel wars? Well, yeah, there's still very much alive 1367 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,000 Speaker 1: and the violence is going on. I think perhaps one 1368 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,240 Speaker 1: of the reasons it's not getting the attention um it 1369 01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 1: deserves is that to an extent, people have got rather 1370 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,679 Speaker 1: used to this violin, to numb to it. And that's 1371 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 1: very sad to say. Um it rose up first around 1372 01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,280 Speaker 1: two dozen and eight, and that's when you used to 1373 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 1: be started seeing kind of crazy decapitations and I've covered 1374 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, many of these, you know began It used 1375 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 1: to be that five heads being cut off was a 1376 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,160 Speaker 1: big story. And then I got to a place where 1377 01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,840 Speaker 1: forty nine people have been decapitated, you know, I went 1378 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: to a morgue where there was forty nine bodies there 1379 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,400 Speaker 1: or with their heads cut off, in fact their hands 1380 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 1: and their feed as well. So there's certain oversaturation now 1381 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:08,599 Speaker 1: when you hear tragically, if you hear a story, um like, 1382 01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 1: just over the last couple of days, um, there's a 1383 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,599 Speaker 1: dozen people killed in this border city of Renossa. There's 1384 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:21,519 Speaker 1: gangs blockading roads, setting cars on fire. It doesn't really 1385 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,759 Speaker 1: make a splash. People just think, oh, well, that's Mexico. 1386 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 1: We're used to that. So that's one reasonably other thing 1387 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:32,559 Speaker 1: I think is there's a very crazy international world scene 1388 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,320 Speaker 1: right now. There's big stories going off all over the planets, 1389 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: and that kind of draws attention away. But here in 1390 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,559 Speaker 1: Mexican on the ground, this violence is very much carries on. 1391 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:48,600 Speaker 1: The gangs are they're continuing to fight security forces with 1392 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 1: heavy weapons sometimes RPG seven's automatic rifles, grenades, and continuing 1393 01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:00,719 Speaker 1: to commit atrocities and and leave, you know, tragedies on civilians. 1394 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 1: I went to a mass grave this year with more 1395 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,360 Speaker 1: than two hundred and fifty bodies buried in a mass 1396 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,479 Speaker 1: graveyard which backed onto a residential area, So really tragic 1397 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 1: stuff carrying on. You know, you've been there covering this 1398 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:20,640 Speaker 1: in Mexico for going on two decades. Now. Is this 1399 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,920 Speaker 1: the worst that it's been or is this just in 1400 01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,240 Speaker 1: a different phase. I mean, clearly the murders are, they're 1401 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 1: counting it as an all time high, But it doesn't 1402 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,719 Speaker 1: seem like we're getting the sense that it's as bad 1403 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 1: as it once was. Is that just because the violence 1404 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 1: is more located in certain parts of Mexico. Is it 1405 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,479 Speaker 1: because there's less cross border violence into the States from Mexico. 1406 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,400 Speaker 1: How is what's going on right now different with these 1407 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:49,880 Speaker 1: cartel wars from what we would have seen, say seven 1408 01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,040 Speaker 1: or eight years ago, when things were getting where, when 1409 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,640 Speaker 1: you were seeing a lot of headlines about the cartels 1410 01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 1: and the spillover into America and all the security challenges 1411 01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,320 Speaker 1: that Mexico is facing because of them. So one difference 1412 01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 1: is that if you go back in time seven years 1413 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: and you had this class between these really big drug cartels, 1414 01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,280 Speaker 1: you had the major war lords, as I called him, 1415 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 1: the gangster war lords. I'm out and about the fighting. 1416 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 1: Chapter was Man Carrier, Fuendes, Tony Tormenter, a guy called 1417 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:31,519 Speaker 1: Barabas Beltran Lava. They were out fighting with these paramilitary forces, 1418 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,719 Speaker 1: leaving creating crazy fight outs in city centers and so forth. 1419 01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: Now those guys are all dead or in jail now. 1420 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,479 Speaker 1: Chapter was Man's in jail in the United States and 1421 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,680 Speaker 1: New York over there. Beltran Level was killed, Tony Tormentor 1422 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 1: was killed. Many of the other guys are you know dead. 1423 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,719 Speaker 1: So what's happened is but a lot of those big 1424 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: cartels have been hit, a lot of them are broken 1425 01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,439 Speaker 1: into smaller fragments. So now you have an of these 1426 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 1: gangs that people have never heard of. Um, you know 1427 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,920 Speaker 1: that I was just written in Guerrero State, and there 1428 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,520 Speaker 1: was a road there where you had a gang controlling 1429 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,759 Speaker 1: one part of the road called Los Guerreros or Nidos. 1430 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 1: Then you went a few kilometers down the road into 1431 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 1: the territory of a group called Los Teculeros. You went 1432 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,720 Speaker 1: around a corner and the group called La Familiar mit 1433 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,639 Speaker 1: Organo was there. And then you went over the hill 1434 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 1: and it was Cali Templarios. So now you've got all 1435 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:32,639 Speaker 1: of these kind of splinter fragmented groups run by guys 1436 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:36,160 Speaker 1: who are often former killers, former hit men who are 1437 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 1: now running these groups. No extremely violent and extremely predatory, 1438 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 1: but it's often more local, and that's one of the 1439 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,639 Speaker 1: reasons why it's not making the same splashes before. Now 1440 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 1: how much of that is a threat to the Mexican 1441 01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,920 Speaker 1: state or how that has changed, It's difficult to know. 1442 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, one guy talked to made a comparison, Guy 1443 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,920 Speaker 1: Robert Bunco's an analyst of this, an academic researcher. He 1444 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,680 Speaker 1: made a comparison, you prefer facing really big, powerful cartels 1445 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,720 Speaker 1: or fragmented a very violent cartels. And it's like, you know, 1446 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 1: do you want a choice between cancer and malaria? I mean, 1447 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,679 Speaker 1: it's like it's a hard choices to make of which 1448 01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: one is better. We're speaking to you and Grillo, author 1449 01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 1: of Gangster Warlords, Drug Dollars, Killing Fields, and the New 1450 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 1: Politics of Latin America. He's on a lignement this right 1451 01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 1: now from Mexico, where he's been reporting since all the 1452 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 1: way back in two thousand and one. Tell me a 1453 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:32,439 Speaker 1: bit young about Element show and the cartel Jalisco Nueva 1454 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:37,280 Speaker 1: Generation C j n G. Well, that's a cartel which 1455 01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 1: is one of the most important cartels to look at 1456 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 1: right now. So you've got your your eyes in the 1457 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: right place with that question. That's bucking this trend a 1458 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,600 Speaker 1: bit of what I was talking about cartels fragmenting and 1459 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,680 Speaker 1: being smaller. That's a cartel on the rise. That's a 1460 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 1: huge cartel. They control territory from the Pacific Ocean to 1461 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 1: the to the Caribbean Sea. They control vast swathes of Mexico. 1462 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 1: They're fighting all over the place. They're involved in international 1463 01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,200 Speaker 1: drug trafficking and there d a report sent in the 1464 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:13,280 Speaker 1: biggest cartel in California in the US. But also they're 1465 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,240 Speaker 1: involved in many local rackets, including stealing petroleum and so forth. 1466 01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:23,120 Speaker 1: And they are very paramilitary cartel. There was an incident 1467 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:28,440 Speaker 1: back in TWI where there was a bunch of blockades 1468 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 1: done on roads and some of their guys shot down 1469 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 1: a military helicopter with an RPG. This is when they 1470 01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,680 Speaker 1: took down the Black Cark, right, yeah, exactly. It was 1471 01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,080 Speaker 1: eight soldiers and a federal police officer died in that. 1472 01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:50,760 Speaker 1: Another incident, they were discovered a couple of small factories 1473 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 1: or you know, you know, in in houses basically where 1474 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:59,000 Speaker 1: they were manufacturing their own a R fifteen rifles. Um. 1475 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,599 Speaker 1: They were you know, make them, buying the component parts 1476 01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 1: and making there without serial numbers. And more recently there 1477 01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:11,040 Speaker 1: was a weaponized groan believe to belong to the cartel, 1478 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,960 Speaker 1: discovered in a car with some guys crossing the state border. 1479 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 1: You and can we keep you through a break here? 1480 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,680 Speaker 1: We'd love to continue this conversation. We're just gonna run 1481 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,160 Speaker 1: to a commercial break. We'll come right back with you. 1482 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 1: Is that all right? Absolutely? Speaking of you and Grillo, 1483 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,120 Speaker 1: you guys should check out his book El Narco. I'm 1484 01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:28,960 Speaker 1: in the last chapters of it myself this week. He's 1485 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 1: also got his latest book, Gangster war Lords, available on Amazon. 1486 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more with Jon from Mexico. Stay 1487 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 1: right there, team, All right, welcome back, everybody. We're talking 1488 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,000 Speaker 1: to you on Grillo. He is the author of El 1489 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 1: Narco and Gangster war Lords. He is a journalist, he's 1490 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:49,280 Speaker 1: down in Mexico, has been covering the cartels for decades. 1491 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 1: You on a question. I have to ask you, how 1492 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 1: you know I've been in a rock and Afghanistan, not 1493 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,960 Speaker 1: as a journalist, but I've never been down in the 1494 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 1: parts of Mexico. Or you just haven't been spending time 1495 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 1: even lining down there. How is that? I know you're 1496 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,760 Speaker 1: You're not just somebody who's going about their day to day. 1497 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,840 Speaker 1: You're actually trying to track down what's going on with 1498 01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 1: these cartels. There must be some pretty serious security concerns. Yes, sure, 1499 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean in terms of my general life, I live 1500 01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,040 Speaker 1: in Mexico City, which is actually has about the same 1501 01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 1: murder at as Boston. So there are some nuances in this. 1502 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,160 Speaker 1: Not all of Mexico is is this kind of crazy 1503 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 1: war zone in certain parts of the country. Um So, 1504 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 1: Mexico City has these challenges, but it's okay. The real 1505 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 1: challenge for me is when I go into the field 1506 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 1: to the very difficult places and approached cartel members or 1507 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,400 Speaker 1: just drive through them. And they're they're always very very 1508 01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:46,439 Speaker 1: stimulating situations. In a one time, I was interviewing or 1509 01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 1: talking to a bunch of guys with quite heavy weapons. 1510 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,080 Speaker 1: They called themselves vigilances, where they appeared to be just 1511 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,720 Speaker 1: very straightforward cartel members. They had rocket there, whether they 1512 01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 1: had grenade launchers on assault rifles, brunades and bullets take 1513 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,000 Speaker 1: their bodies. And I was kind of chatting to them 1514 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 1: and and take some photographs and then one of them 1515 01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 1: accused me of being a d A agent um. And 1516 01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,559 Speaker 1: you know, I showed them my website and convinced them 1517 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm not American, I'm British. And eventually the guy said, well, 1518 01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, if I see you again, I'm going to 1519 01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,360 Speaker 1: put a bullet in your head. Um. So so I 1520 01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,360 Speaker 1: left that situation. And there's been various things like that 1521 01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 1: have happened over the years now. But you also, and 1522 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 1: I'm just glad to know you're safe, and I'm glad 1523 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 1: to know that you are a veteran of dealing with 1524 01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:35,160 Speaker 1: all these issues, so stay safe down their own. But 1525 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned something else that I wanted to touch on them. 1526 01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,320 Speaker 1: That is, you said Mexico City not nearly not a 1527 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,000 Speaker 1: not a rough place to live necessarily compared to a 1528 01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,599 Speaker 1: lot of major US cities. What are the worst parts 1529 01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 1: of Mexico right now? I think there was a State 1530 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 1: Department warning recently. They did get a little bit of 1531 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,599 Speaker 1: press coverage just in the last few weeks. I think 1532 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 1: there are four or five states that were mentioned in 1533 01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 1: Mexico as being essentially no go zones for US travel. 1534 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,799 Speaker 1: Now that's not a no go zone obviously for everybody, 1535 01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:06,840 Speaker 1: but they're saying US tourists should should think twice before going, Uh, 1536 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 1: you're down there on the ground. What are the worst 1537 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:11,200 Speaker 1: two or three places in Mexico right now at a 1538 01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,840 Speaker 1: state or city level? Sure? So, I think the state 1539 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:19,080 Speaker 1: of Guerrero with the city of Acapulco has been for 1540 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,360 Speaker 1: some years one of the most violent places in Mexico 1541 01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 1: and one that that for most people is quite good 1542 01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:31,920 Speaker 1: to avoid. The state of Pamo Lipas is tough, just 1543 01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 1: crossing over from the Texas border over the you know, 1544 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,160 Speaker 1: the real Grande Valley into Tampas. That's a rough area. 1545 01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 1: The state of Sinaloa, home or of Chapel Gusman in 1546 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,240 Speaker 1: the place where he grew up is a is a 1547 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 1: tough place. Chihuahua homes also seen a certain resurgence in 1548 01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 1: violence recently, and and it's a tough area. Um and 1549 01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 1: Tijuan has had a very violent year until one is 1550 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,639 Speaker 1: pretty rough. But you know, overall, I kind of put 1551 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,640 Speaker 1: Mexico into three in a way. It's about about a 1552 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,160 Speaker 1: third of the states in Mexico are quite rough. Mexico 1553 01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,519 Speaker 1: has thirty two states altogether through the Mexico City. About 1554 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: third of them are quite rough. About a third of 1555 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,120 Speaker 1: them have a mid level of violence, so some violence 1556 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,600 Speaker 1: but not totally critical. And then some of them are 1557 01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,320 Speaker 1: actually fairly peaceful. If you go to Yokotan Peninsula home 1558 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,799 Speaker 1: to Merida, it has a similar murder rate to Belgium. 1559 01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:31,000 Speaker 1: So actually, um, it's quite peaceful there. And it's interesting 1560 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:35,200 Speaker 1: why that is why those communities have been more resistant 1561 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,240 Speaker 1: to organize crime and violence and wine them there's not 1562 01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,679 Speaker 1: as much drugs going through those places. But also they're 1563 01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 1: more traditional indigenous communities, they're more community spirits in those places. 1564 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,599 Speaker 1: I think that helps resist the violence and crime. Well, 1565 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,400 Speaker 1: can you tell me what's the latest on this? I 1566 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:54,559 Speaker 1: would assume ties into your your book Gangster warlords, drug dollars, 1567 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 1: killing fields, and the new politics of Latin America. On 1568 01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 1: the political side, the pre Right p r I is 1569 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,800 Speaker 1: the political party that is once again after a long 1570 01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,759 Speaker 1: period of seventy some iRED years of dominance, it stopped, 1571 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,200 Speaker 1: then the drug wars got really hot, and then now 1572 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,360 Speaker 1: the party is back in charge. How are they handling 1573 01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,600 Speaker 1: this because there's a there's a long history of corruption there, right, 1574 01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that it depends on what period 1575 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,320 Speaker 1: we're looking at, But how is the Mexican government handling 1576 01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:25,080 Speaker 1: the current surge and violence and are they better or 1577 01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 1: worse than they were dealing with this from a decade ago. 1578 01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:36,080 Speaker 1: So the government of Calderon, Philippe Calderon was the was 1579 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,240 Speaker 1: for the pan and he had the big campaign against 1580 01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,800 Speaker 1: drug guard tells, and that was seen by many people 1581 01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,960 Speaker 1: who's not working because the violence increased so much and 1582 01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 1: there was so much bloodshed, even though he succeeded in 1583 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:52,759 Speaker 1: taking down or arresting many drug traffickers. Now, I believe 1584 01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,960 Speaker 1: one of the main reasons the p r I came 1585 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,080 Speaker 1: back to power is they said, well, remember it was 1586 01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:00,560 Speaker 1: better back in the old days. You know, back in 1587 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,200 Speaker 1: the old days, it might not have been democratic, you 1588 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,720 Speaker 1: had one party rule. It might have been corrupt, but 1589 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:10,000 Speaker 1: things were safer and many people felt that. But there's 1590 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,840 Speaker 1: six years in power have been very disappointing by President Benyon. 1591 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,040 Speaker 1: Yet those own targets has failed. I mean, he said 1592 01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 1: he would reduce the murder rate by half, and here 1593 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,920 Speaker 1: we are talking about a record year of murders. So 1594 01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 1: now people are very fed up with the free as well. 1595 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 1: They don't seem to see them having any real solution 1596 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:36,559 Speaker 1: to this problem. And I compare this conflict in Mexico 1597 01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,760 Speaker 1: to the conflict in Afghanistan in that it's a it's 1598 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,200 Speaker 1: a bit like a conflict you can't win and can't 1599 01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,679 Speaker 1: pull out of, so it's kind of carriers on without 1600 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:51,439 Speaker 1: a real end inside. And now we're looking at the 1601 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:57,120 Speaker 1: very real prospect of a left wing populist politician, Andrew's 1602 01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:02,320 Speaker 1: Manuel Obdor taking power in the elections this year in July. 1603 01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,160 Speaker 1: I believe he will is likely to win the election. 1604 01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,639 Speaker 1: So that's going to be an interesting change for Mexico 1605 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,600 Speaker 1: for relations with the United States. Yeah, you know, and 1606 01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:12,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask on the U. S side, you're 1607 01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,360 Speaker 1: speaking to a coast to coast US audience. Now people 1608 01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:19,719 Speaker 1: listening in in all fifty states literally, So the border 1609 01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,479 Speaker 1: right now in terms of the cartels moving drugs across 1610 01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:27,040 Speaker 1: the border and violence that if not cross border, is 1611 01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,439 Speaker 1: right up against it. Where would you gauge that now 1612 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:32,800 Speaker 1: versus where it was a few years ago? Is it 1613 01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,560 Speaker 1: is it worse? Is it just different? How you know 1614 01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:38,840 Speaker 1: how porous and unsafe is the border as an area 1615 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:42,799 Speaker 1: for drug trafficking and violence? I would say it's pretty similar. 1616 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,719 Speaker 1: I think if if you compare it to two thousand eleven, 1617 01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's worse than than it's pretty year hasn't 1618 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:53,679 Speaker 1: got really any better. You can't really see proper improvements there, 1619 01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,519 Speaker 1: and the amount of drugs has still going over now 1620 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,599 Speaker 1: there if you look at drugs seizures, and it's always 1621 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,519 Speaker 1: hard to know the amount of drugs going over the 1622 01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,519 Speaker 1: border of the United States because it's a clandestine thing, 1623 01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:09,759 Speaker 1: but the number of sieges, the type of drugs changed, 1624 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,240 Speaker 1: Like a few years ago, there was more cocaine being sees. 1625 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:18,479 Speaker 1: Now there's more heroin, a bit less marijuana, you know, 1626 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,799 Speaker 1: likely because of the legalization of marijuana in some states 1627 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:25,280 Speaker 1: in the United States, but more crystal meth. So you 1628 01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,759 Speaker 1: kind of see trends, but people are still smuggling drugs. 1629 01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,559 Speaker 1: And earlier this year, I was in Norgalis, a big 1630 01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:35,000 Speaker 1: area for smuggling, and I interviewed one smuggler there um 1631 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,280 Speaker 1: and he was, you know, saying that drugs are gonna 1632 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:40,760 Speaker 1: keep going across and they have many tunnels there. They 1633 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:44,439 Speaker 1: catapult them over the wall. They can take them over 1634 01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:47,519 Speaker 1: the wall in backpacks, across them through the desert, or 1635 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,360 Speaker 1: take them over the border and trapped cars. There's still 1636 01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:52,479 Speaker 1: plenty of ways to get drugs into the United States. 1637 01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Jone Grillo is a journalist reporting from down in Mexico. 1638 01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,400 Speaker 1: Check out his books, guys. He has written El Narco, 1639 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,640 Speaker 1: Inside Mexico's Criminal Insurgency and Gangster Warlords. You can get 1640 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,280 Speaker 1: them on Amazon or in find bookstores near you. You 1641 01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,880 Speaker 1: own great work. Thank you so much for joiningus on 1642 01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,479 Speaker 1: the show. We'd love to have you back. And also 1643 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,240 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed your book, and so I'm all the 1644 01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,439 Speaker 1: best there, all right, you take care well, I always please, 1645 01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:20,720 Speaker 1: We'll seem I hope you really enjoyed that discussion with Jon. 1646 01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,880 Speaker 1: Uh very much enjoyed reading his book. It gives you 1647 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:29,320 Speaker 1: a really good backstory about the the drug wars in 1648 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,559 Speaker 1: Mexico leading up to the present day. So it takes 1649 01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:37,040 Speaker 1: you through that period where Vicente Fox and Calderone, those 1650 01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,200 Speaker 1: governments with a lot of US support went after the 1651 01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,360 Speaker 1: cartels and what that meant. And for those of you 1652 01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,240 Speaker 1: who are fans of the Netflix show Narcos, just so 1653 01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, the next season will be about Mexico and 1654 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 1: from it all. I've been doing a lot of research 1655 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,560 Speaker 1: on this recently. I just find that this is a 1656 01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:57,680 Speaker 1: subject matter that doesn't get nearly enough journalist attention for 1657 01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,840 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of reasons. Despite the fact that this 1658 01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:03,120 Speaker 1: affects us. Let me think about this, everybody, how much 1659 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 1: more do you hear about you know, what's going on 1660 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,320 Speaker 1: against isis not that that's not important, but then these 1661 01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:14,920 Speaker 1: cartels which are engaged in paramilitary actions in Mexico and 1662 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 1: they're flooding our streets with drugs and killing people here, 1663 01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:22,200 Speaker 1: killing people in Mexico. It's a much bigger issue than 1664 01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,400 Speaker 1: you'd get a sense of from day to day news cycle. 1665 01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 1: So anyway, team, we'll have more on this. I'm gonna 1666 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 1: keep covering it, but we're back in just a few 1667 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 1: all right, everybody, It's Friday and it is the Nati time. 1668 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,880 Speaker 1: She is a blogger and columnist writer for The Daily Wire. 1669 01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:40,360 Speaker 1: You can check out our latest at Daily wire dot com. 1670 01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,880 Speaker 1: Great to have you, Emily. All Right, So I know 1671 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,559 Speaker 1: that there was on the me too movement. I've been 1672 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 1: saying for a while, I think we've even talked about 1673 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 1: it here on the show, that there would come a 1674 01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:56,400 Speaker 1: point at which we would see some strange uh moves 1675 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,240 Speaker 1: by the meat to crowd in terms of who is 1676 01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,080 Speaker 1: going to get in trouble one for what he had 1677 01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:04,040 Speaker 1: the big as he's on, sorry thing that's gotten a lot, 1678 01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:07,080 Speaker 1: and I think he did he get booed in absentio 1679 01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:11,000 Speaker 1: somewhere I saw that that happened. Yeah, he's actually been 1680 01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:14,680 Speaker 1: fairly ill treated about this whole thing. I mean, as you, 1681 01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. A story came out about him a couple 1682 01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 1: of months, a couple of weeks ago, and essentially this 1683 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 1: story was a retelling of a really bad date. It 1684 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,680 Speaker 1: wasn't really like a sexual assault or a sexual harassment. 1685 01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,920 Speaker 1: It was just they were awkward and it never quite 1686 01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:34,160 Speaker 1: worked out and she didn't leave, and it was a 1687 01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:38,840 Speaker 1: very strange story. But he's being continually blamed for a 1688 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:42,840 Speaker 1: sexual assault in the sex harassment case, but he may 1689 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,000 Speaker 1: not have done, and now he's getting booed and he 1690 01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,200 Speaker 1: may actually end up losing some of his, uh his 1691 01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:53,120 Speaker 1: gigs for this. There's gonna be some maybe not getting fired, 1692 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,639 Speaker 1: but certainly some loss of professional opportunity for the guy. 1693 01:36:57,160 --> 01:37:00,800 Speaker 1: And well, well, I can't condone what was written in 1694 01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,120 Speaker 1: in that article. I also feel like there's a difference 1695 01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:07,479 Speaker 1: between somebody being gross and somebody who is breaking the 1696 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,960 Speaker 1: law and should suffer professional consequences. As far as I 1697 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,920 Speaker 1: could say, he did nothing even nothing illegal and nothing 1698 01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,600 Speaker 1: that would even be sanctionable conduct, because it's not like 1699 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,240 Speaker 1: this woman worked for him, So it's not sexual harassment. 1700 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,559 Speaker 1: It's a bad date, and it's super creepy. I mean, 1701 01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,640 Speaker 1: just what happened was creepy, and it was gross, but 1702 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,679 Speaker 1: creepy and growth isn't necessarily criminal. And just because somebody 1703 01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,400 Speaker 1: isn't really a gentleman on a date doesn't mean that 1704 01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:34,880 Speaker 1: they're actually a sexual predator. So we're kind of seeing 1705 01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:38,840 Speaker 1: this movement go a little bit off the rail. Yeah, 1706 01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know the stuff I read about, for example, 1707 01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:43,000 Speaker 1: with Charlie Rose that he got away with for years 1708 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,519 Speaker 1: and years with the Krusty Paul. That struck me as 1709 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,200 Speaker 1: a way worse and those were employees of his. But anyway, 1710 01:37:48,760 --> 01:37:54,760 Speaker 1: James Franco, we've seen Kevin Spacey recently was taken out 1711 01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,040 Speaker 1: digitally altered from a movie he was in. But he 1712 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 1: had made a pass at an underage and an underage boy, 1713 01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,240 Speaker 1: so they literally scrubbed him though from a movie. It 1714 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,240 Speaker 1: costs millions of dollars to do it, and they did it. 1715 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:07,960 Speaker 1: Was it all the money in the world, I think 1716 01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:12,799 Speaker 1: was the movie? I think Franco is also now getting scrubbed. 1717 01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:14,479 Speaker 1: He got scrubbed out of a photo, right, was it 1718 01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 1: for the Grammys or the Oscars or something. He's also 1719 01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:21,000 Speaker 1: been digitally removed. He is supposed he was given an 1720 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,320 Speaker 1: Oscar nomination for his movie, which tells the story of 1721 01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:28,040 Speaker 1: an even worse movie hilariously. But he was supposed to 1722 01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,360 Speaker 1: be in this Vanity Fair spread that had Oprah and 1723 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,160 Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon and all of these Hollywood big wigs who 1724 01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:38,120 Speaker 1: have all been nominated for Oscars. After what we found 1725 01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:42,639 Speaker 1: out this week, he was actually just digitally scrubbed from 1726 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:46,000 Speaker 1: this Vanity Fair article, so it's basically he was there. 1727 01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,599 Speaker 1: He took the photo, he hung out with the Vanity 1728 01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:54,120 Speaker 1: Fair journalists. He was in this group of Hollywood hot shots, 1729 01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,960 Speaker 1: and then when the magazine came out, James Franco was 1730 01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:00,720 Speaker 1: nowhere to be found, largely because of the me too 1731 01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 1: allegations that have come out against him in the last 1732 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:07,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And it's his behavior is at least 1733 01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:11,800 Speaker 1: allegedly worse than as he's a sorry. Supposedly he invited 1734 01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:16,479 Speaker 1: women over to be his proteges. He tried to teach 1735 01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,280 Speaker 1: them acting and then ended up kind of trying to 1736 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,439 Speaker 1: teach them nude scenes. Of course, because he's super weird. 1737 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,880 Speaker 1: And this is all now coming out. So even though 1738 01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,640 Speaker 1: he's nominated for an Oscar, he will probably have to 1739 01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 1: go in like through the back way and just accept 1740 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 1: the Oscar if he's given it. But yes, he's pretty 1741 01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,519 Speaker 1: much being digitally scrubbed from all of this nomination news. 1742 01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:44,880 Speaker 1: And tell me about we're speaking to Emily is not 1743 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,120 Speaker 1: everybody Daily wire dot com for her latest what's going 1744 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:50,320 Speaker 1: on with the Grammys? Also a lot of political stuff, 1745 01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:54,360 Speaker 1: no surprise, I suppose, right, Yeah, so the Grammys, of course, 1746 01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:55,960 Speaker 1: now we're going to follow on the footsteps of the 1747 01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:58,960 Speaker 1: Golden Globes and the oscars, and they're also going to 1748 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:03,800 Speaker 1: have their own set of me Too. I guess kind 1749 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:07,080 Speaker 1: of a protest a little bit. So the artists and 1750 01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,640 Speaker 1: producers are all going to be wearing white roses so 1751 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,080 Speaker 1: that when they walk the red carpet, they'll all have 1752 01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,320 Speaker 1: their crazy outfits on, but they will have a little 1753 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:19,400 Speaker 1: white rose that signals their support for me Too and 1754 01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 1: the Time's Up campaign, which is the official Hollywood campaign. 1755 01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,040 Speaker 1: Is there an album or song that you are rooting 1756 01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,720 Speaker 1: for in this I can't even think of what's come 1757 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:29,920 Speaker 1: out this year. I don't really I really like that 1758 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:32,320 Speaker 1: new Bruno Mars song. I have no idea if it's 1759 01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,280 Speaker 1: nominated for anything. I can't pay attention to this. I 1760 01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 1: listened to like yacht rock radio. I'm gonna ask Molly 1761 01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,240 Speaker 1: what's cool so i can come back on radio and 1762 01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,519 Speaker 1: impress everybody because I'll know what's cool. So that's that's 1763 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,439 Speaker 1: what I like to do. By the way, have you 1764 01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: seen have you seen? Have you seen this? This article? 1765 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,360 Speaker 1: Now it is from RT, so take that for what 1766 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,280 Speaker 1: it's worth. But I've seen I believe I've seen it 1767 01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:57,559 Speaker 1: elsewhere to where men in France now face a fine 1768 01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,160 Speaker 1: of up to four U s dollars if they follow 1769 01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:05,400 Speaker 1: women in the street, whistle at them, make loud comments 1770 01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,680 Speaker 1: about their appearance, or ask for their phone numbers. And 1771 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,200 Speaker 1: I just feel like this is no longer France, Like 1772 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,160 Speaker 1: what he's happening? Like they are so aggressive on the 1773 01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,880 Speaker 1: street and a cigarette and now it's like you're gonna 1774 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,400 Speaker 1: get fine for this. Come on, what happened to Peppi 1775 01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:24,120 Speaker 1: Lap He's going to be jailed? Basically? Um, yeah, So 1776 01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 1: France has been um basically trying to clamp down on 1777 01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:32,240 Speaker 1: bad language. They've said just across the board. So in 1778 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:36,320 Speaker 1: addition to what we already knew was going to be 1779 01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:40,080 Speaker 1: clamped down on, which is politically incorrect talk, miss gendering, 1780 01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,639 Speaker 1: things like that that are more sort of left leaning, 1781 01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,640 Speaker 1: this is now kind of a response to this worldwide 1782 01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,400 Speaker 1: Me too movement that they've said they're not going to 1783 01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:53,479 Speaker 1: let french Men be frenchmen. No more wolf whistles at 1784 01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:57,120 Speaker 1: women in the streets, no more lewd comments. You can't 1785 01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,040 Speaker 1: pick up a woman in a bar if she doesn't 1786 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:00,880 Speaker 1: want to talk to you can be fined up to 1787 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,679 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty euros. So I kind of feel 1788 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,800 Speaker 1: bad for guys in France. I mean, this is just 1789 01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,800 Speaker 1: basically cut off everybody's game at the kneeds and this 1790 01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: is just gonna make all these guys get even creepier 1791 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,839 Speaker 1: on all the dating apps, which by the way, everyone 1792 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:16,960 Speaker 1: is on now all the time. That's what's going on 1793 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,640 Speaker 1: in the world. And man, some of the stories I 1794 01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:23,280 Speaker 1: hear from ladies about you know, sometimes sometimes the first 1795 01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,960 Speaker 1: line is in the line it's a photo. It's always 1796 01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,559 Speaker 1: a photo. It's always a photo. I've had friends who 1797 01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,680 Speaker 1: come and visit me and they get on Tinder to 1798 01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,200 Speaker 1: try and find guys in this area, and it's it's 1799 01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,479 Speaker 1: never like what'd you like to have a drink, It's 1800 01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:42,439 Speaker 1: it's way racier than that. It was amazed too, because 1801 01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, my my my brother actually was involved with 1802 01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,880 Speaker 1: a startup app that was that was like a dating app. 1803 01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,080 Speaker 1: Remember told me that he was amazed that the biggest 1804 01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,880 Speaker 1: complaint they had was women who were saying that, you know, 1805 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,080 Speaker 1: this guy was being creepier weird on the on the app, 1806 01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:57,880 Speaker 1: on the dating app, but that sometimes it would go 1807 01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:00,439 Speaker 1: from hey, you know, I like your hair to bam, 1808 01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,719 Speaker 1: inappropriate photos the next thing. They switch really fast anyway, 1809 01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:07,160 Speaker 1: and looks a naughty everybody. Check out our latest on 1810 01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,760 Speaker 1: Daily wire dot com and on the Twitter at e 1811 01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:14,559 Speaker 1: m Z Nati Emily. Have a fantastic weekend up in Chicago. 1812 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:18,720 Speaker 1: Stay warm, alright, team, We're gonna come back with some 1813 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:22,639 Speaker 1: roll call in just a few minutes. Very much looking 1814 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:24,439 Speaker 1: forward to hearing from all of you. See what you've 1815 01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 1: got for me in the inbox. Stay right there, well, team, 1816 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:32,880 Speaker 1: Our freestyle Friday comes to a close in this segment 1817 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,559 Speaker 1: makes me sad. I'm just gonna spend the weekend getting 1818 01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,840 Speaker 1: ready for Fall of Constants and Opal Part two, the 1819 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:43,880 Speaker 1: Shields High podcast that will be out on Monday. And 1820 01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:48,599 Speaker 1: also I will probably if I venture from my apartment, 1821 01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,519 Speaker 1: it will only be to meet with some of my 1822 01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:56,280 Speaker 1: friends who like to brunch. I've got like a brunch squad. 1823 01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:02,040 Speaker 1: It includes Navy seals, entrepreneurs, finance bros. It's a very 1824 01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:05,280 Speaker 1: diverse group, the brunch squad, and we own it, you know, 1825 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:09,080 Speaker 1: because what is lunch on a Saturday afternoon? We call 1826 01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,639 Speaker 1: it brunch. And speaking of food, last night, I also 1827 01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:16,560 Speaker 1: went out with an old buddy of mine who is 1828 01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:18,439 Speaker 1: just one of you know when you have that friend 1829 01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:23,559 Speaker 1: who just always tells really funny stories or makes stories 1830 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,639 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be funny if anyone else told them somehow 1831 01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:29,519 Speaker 1: really amusing. I mean this guy we worked together at 1832 01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,599 Speaker 1: an internship a long time ago, and I met him 1833 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:36,280 Speaker 1: because while all the rest of us interns were crammed 1834 01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:40,320 Speaker 1: into I was literally in a converted electrical closet with 1835 01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:45,360 Speaker 1: another intern with no door, and he somehow was assigned 1836 01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:48,160 Speaker 1: in office because they had nowhere to put him. So 1837 01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:50,799 Speaker 1: he was in like a big office as an intern 1838 01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,640 Speaker 1: that I came in and said, who's this guy? And 1839 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,000 Speaker 1: he turned out to be a friend of mine now 1840 01:44:56,200 --> 01:45:00,120 Speaker 1: for oh gosh, it'll be coming up on almost ay 1841 01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:04,439 Speaker 1: years soon's he's hilarious. But but we made it. We 1842 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,400 Speaker 1: may both made the decision to go with the Porterhouse. 1843 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:12,160 Speaker 1: And I you know the Porterhouse, it kind of it 1844 01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,720 Speaker 1: kind of entices you in with its hole. Oh look 1845 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,360 Speaker 1: at the big t bone they bring it out. You 1846 01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:21,120 Speaker 1: see somebody else, and I know that it's really like 1847 01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:24,639 Speaker 1: ordering two steaks. But there was a Ribbi on that menu. 1848 01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,240 Speaker 1: And the answer, as I like to say, the answer 1849 01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:32,080 Speaker 1: is always the ribbi. You I've gotten your Porterhouse objections, 1850 01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:34,640 Speaker 1: and you know what to each his own. But for 1851 01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:37,760 Speaker 1: those of you who take my advice to heart, get 1852 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 1: the ribbi and if you're going to order it more 1853 01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,679 Speaker 1: than medium, I don't know. There's no there's no red 1854 01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:49,880 Speaker 1: meat salvation for you. I can't offer any fix to that. Medium, rare, rare. 1855 01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:52,840 Speaker 1: Those are the ways you get a decent steak. Otherwise, 1856 01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:57,080 Speaker 1: go to in and out Burger and just let them 1857 01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:58,840 Speaker 1: cook the burger. You know what I mean. Don't waste 1858 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,240 Speaker 1: all the money on a steak. It's my opinion and 1859 01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,680 Speaker 1: I'm right. Okay, So that's where we're gonna go. Now 1860 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:10,760 Speaker 1: into well you know where it is, Team Buck. It's 1861 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:18,640 Speaker 1: time for roll call. Alright. First up this week we 1862 01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:22,719 Speaker 1: are today not this week. Sorry, this is from Jeff Buck. First, 1863 01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:26,600 Speaker 1: the history podcasts are awesome. Still hoping the Battle of 1864 01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,320 Speaker 1: Hastings makes the cut. I just wanted to pass on 1865 01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,000 Speaker 1: another way. I just discovered to listen to the Buck 1866 01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:35,400 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. A family member gave us a Google Home 1867 01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,640 Speaker 1: Mini for Christmas. I was getting ready for work the 1868 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,439 Speaker 1: other morning and asked how to play the Buck Sexton Show. 1869 01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,320 Speaker 1: Lo and behold, it responded, Okay, here is the latest 1870 01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:48,280 Speaker 1: podcast from the buck Sexton Show. Then it began playing 1871 01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:51,000 Speaker 1: the podcast from the show the previous night. Feel free 1872 01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,280 Speaker 1: to pass us on to everyone else in the Freedom Hut, 1873 01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:58,160 Speaker 1: Shields High Jeff o s s Original Saturday Squad. Well, Jeff, 1874 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,599 Speaker 1: thank you for I didn't even know about that cool 1875 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,760 Speaker 1: way to listen to the show. And I always like 1876 01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:05,400 Speaker 1: letting people know new ways to listen, So thank you 1877 01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:12,160 Speaker 1: very much and Oss so appreciated. Here we go with Ronald. Wow, 1878 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,720 Speaker 1: this is Ronald. You seem like a great dude. But 1879 01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,360 Speaker 1: this is uh a little on the long side, so 1880 01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to read it and come back to 1881 01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:23,479 Speaker 1: it on my own time. So next we have Andrew 1882 01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 1: who writes and Hey Buck. These social justice warrior leftist groups, 1883 01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 1: new wave feminism, me too movement, and media bias remind 1884 01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,920 Speaker 1: me of the dark and bloody French Revolution. The amount 1885 01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,920 Speaker 1: of extremism occurring now worries me for the future of 1886 01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:41,840 Speaker 1: this country. It seems like the next three years will 1887 01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,840 Speaker 1: either decide the beginning of the end or the revival 1888 01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:48,760 Speaker 1: of America. As for a lighter aside, I have an 1889 01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:52,839 Speaker 1: action movie quote for you, You're too ugly to live forever. 1890 01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,920 Speaker 1: As I always keep up the good work and I 1891 01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,519 Speaker 1: look forward to the Fall of Constantinople. Well, that quote 1892 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,800 Speaker 1: is from Heartbreak Ridge here, so ding ding ding for me, 1893 01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,040 Speaker 1: and thank you for the action movie quote. And I 1894 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,640 Speaker 1: hope you do enjoy the Fall of Constantinople. Coming up 1895 01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:11,040 Speaker 1: on well, it's part two when the fall actually happens 1896 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:15,559 Speaker 1: on Monday, al right. Next up in the hut here 1897 01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:20,120 Speaker 1: we have Karen. She writes, I think dreamers should be 1898 01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,800 Speaker 1: required to pass an English exam. Karen, I'm fine with 1899 01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:27,120 Speaker 1: that too, And this has often talked about in the 1900 01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:31,360 Speaker 1: context of the immigration debate. The problem is it's never 1901 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 1: enforced and what level of English proficiency. Keep in mind 1902 01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:38,760 Speaker 1: that when you look at what's going on in a 1903 01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:42,040 Speaker 1: lot of public schools across the country right now, e 1904 01:48:42,400 --> 01:48:45,560 Speaker 1: s l English as a second language, and all the 1905 01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:49,800 Speaker 1: different resources and efforts put towards teaching people in the 1906 01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,920 Speaker 1: country right now. Who are I'm talking about legally here, 1907 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:57,000 Speaker 1: never mind illegally is extensive. And we don't even have 1908 01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:01,160 Speaker 1: an official language in America, which I think is kind 1909 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,280 Speaker 1: of crazy. You know, people say, well, that doesn't matter, 1910 01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:05,840 Speaker 1: we don't need it. Well, then why not have it. 1911 01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,200 Speaker 1: The language of the United States is English. Our language 1912 01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,400 Speaker 1: is English. That is that is a fact that is 1913 01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:16,080 Speaker 1: true and that should not change. So I know people say, well, 1914 01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:20,679 Speaker 1: our official languages are our English, say American. My official 1915 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:24,519 Speaker 1: language is American, no English, and maybe maybe we should 1916 01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,320 Speaker 1: you know that that changes to just as an aside. 1917 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, for a while people were calling it Gaelic, 1918 01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,360 Speaker 1: and then they started to call it Irish, and I 1919 01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,000 Speaker 1: don't know what the indigenous tongue of the Irish is 1920 01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,320 Speaker 1: currently referred to as, but it's gone back and forth 1921 01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:44,599 Speaker 1: over time. So sometimes the the designation of a language 1922 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:50,320 Speaker 1: itself will evolve along with political and cultural needs of 1923 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:54,439 Speaker 1: a given community. So with that we can go to 1924 01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:58,800 Speaker 1: and thank you caring for your note, Uh Dave who 1925 01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,360 Speaker 1: right shields high back the truth is spoken at Davos 1926 01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:05,839 Speaker 1: of quote. Of course, I'm aware that your strong leadership 1927 01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:09,800 Speaker 1: is open to misconceptions and biased interpretations. Therefore, it is 1928 01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,880 Speaker 1: so essential for those of us in the room to 1929 01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:16,000 Speaker 1: listen directly to you. We should all heed those words. 1930 01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,240 Speaker 1: Find Trump speech and full don't listen to the media highlights. 1931 01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:22,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for a great show, well, Dave, thank you very much. 1932 01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:25,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and I will look over that transcript 1933 01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:31,679 Speaker 1: again for some uh wisdom of Mr President Trump. Rick, 1934 01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:35,880 Speaker 1: next up here, Buck, You're doing a great real show. 1935 01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm getting so much done around my house at nights 1936 01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:40,599 Speaker 1: because instead of watching TV, I listened to your show 1937 01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,920 Speaker 1: and work. I read, did two closets, and tonight i'm 1938 01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:47,320 Speaker 1: painting one. I totally reconfigured. Anyway, keep up the great 1939 01:50:47,360 --> 01:50:50,200 Speaker 1: work question. I'm listening to the Fall of Consents and 1940 01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:52,760 Speaker 1: Opal while I work, but just on iTunes? Does that 1941 01:50:52,960 --> 01:50:56,320 Speaker 1: count as a download for you Shields High State Truthful, Rick, 1942 01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,599 Speaker 1: Rick the answers. Yes, indeed, Fall Consents and Nople on iTunes. 1943 01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,519 Speaker 1: Any of the Shields High History podcast that you listen 1944 01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:08,400 Speaker 1: to on iTunes count as a download. And thank you 1945 01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,720 Speaker 1: very much for listening to it. I'm so glad that 1946 01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,280 Speaker 1: many of you, many of you folks on the team 1947 01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:17,320 Speaker 1: are enjoying it. And yeah, so I'm very appreciative I 1948 01:51:17,360 --> 01:51:18,960 Speaker 1: get to keep you company while you get stuff done 1949 01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,639 Speaker 1: around the house. I listened to so here's the little secret. 1950 01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:26,960 Speaker 1: I listened to some very information in Come On Buck, 1951 01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:36,440 Speaker 1: English Information Dance but slightly lacking in production and storytelling 1952 01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:39,720 Speaker 1: value history podcast just as a means of cramming the 1953 01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,559 Speaker 1: information into my brain while I can't read there are 1954 01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,640 Speaker 1: some great ones out there, and I don't want to 1955 01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:47,519 Speaker 1: I don't want to mention any right now because I'm 1956 01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:50,240 Speaker 1: not trying to disparage anybody's podcast. But if you just 1957 01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:52,519 Speaker 1: do a search for topic, you know, you tend to 1958 01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,439 Speaker 1: be able to find some some interesting history podcasts, but 1959 01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,920 Speaker 1: they're not They kind of go through the history of 1960 01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:03,320 Speaker 1: the subject matter like this and then this happened, and 1961 01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:07,639 Speaker 1: then in even thirty this man decided to overthrow the king. 1962 01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:12,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot of that, So you just, I'm gonna 1963 01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:14,280 Speaker 1: say it, you're a little spoiled from a shield high podcast. 1964 01:52:14,360 --> 01:52:16,360 Speaker 1: In the world of history podcast the only exception of 1965 01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:20,000 Speaker 1: that is Dan Carlin Hardcore History. Who's Who is currently 1966 01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:23,639 Speaker 1: the the Lebron James of history podcasts, if you will. 1967 01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:27,320 Speaker 1: So let's get onto the next one. Here in Roll Call, 1968 01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:31,320 Speaker 1: we have Leah Oss here. Would love to have Miss 1969 01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:35,080 Speaker 1: Molly stopped by the Hut and say hi to the team. Leah. 1970 01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,840 Speaker 1: That's a very interesting suggestion. I must say, I had 1971 01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:41,920 Speaker 1: never really thought of it. Miss Molly is a little shy, 1972 01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:45,479 Speaker 1: especially about public speaking, but I mean many of you, 1973 01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,680 Speaker 1: if you don't know I there are some photos of 1974 01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:52,280 Speaker 1: us on on Instagram. So Miss Molly is real, she exists. 1975 01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,559 Speaker 1: It's not my imaginary girlfriend. I'll ask her if at 1976 01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:57,759 Speaker 1: some point maybe she'll tape a message to the team, 1977 01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:00,240 Speaker 1: and she'd only do it if she can make fun 1978 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,800 Speaker 1: of me a little bit, so I will definitely give 1979 01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,040 Speaker 1: it some some thought. I'll ask us Milly she comes 1980 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,600 Speaker 1: back from a work trip in a few days, and 1981 01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,559 Speaker 1: I'll run a buyer anyway. Everybody, thank you so much 1982 01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 1: for hanging out with me. I'm excited to get back 1983 01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:17,280 Speaker 1: in action with you all on Monday. Shields High podcast 1984 01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:21,439 Speaker 1: will be out Monday, episode two of or Sorry, Part 1985 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,720 Speaker 1: two of The Fall of Constantinople. Please do check it 1986 01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,719 Speaker 1: out and also download this podcast, share it with friends. 1987 01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,600 Speaker 1: Have a fantastic weekend, Everybody, rest up. We're gonna have 1988 01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:31,680 Speaker 1: a lot to do together next week, including the State 1989 01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:34,760 Speaker 1: of the Union address. So until then, Shields Hi.